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>> i'm chris wallace. the president on his firstborn trip, while at home and investigation ramps up and the possible links between the drum campaign in russia. >> president trump: the entire thing has been a witch hunt and there is no collusion between certainly myself in my campaign. >> i think the people and the rest of the world do not have the time to pay attention to what's happening domestically here. >> we will break down the president's trip and what it means for u.s. foreign policy with the secretary of state rex tillerson. it's a "fox news sunday" exclusive. then former fbi director robert muller is tapped to lead the investigation into russian interference in the 2016 election. >> special counsel was much called for in this situation and
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former director muller is the right kind of individual for the job. >> we will discuss the controversy and what it means for the trip agenda with arizona senator john mccain, only on "fox news sunday." we will ask our sunday panel if mr. trump can use the appointment of the special counsel to turn attention to repeal and replace and tax reform. and our "power player of the week" ," iconic singer judy collins on the inspiration for the songs that defined a generation. >> it was music, it was exciting. >> all right now on on "fox news sunday" ." >> chris: hello again from fox news in washington. donald trump is on day two of his firstborn trip as president meeting with more than 50 muslim leaders and trying to build a coalition to defeat isis to isolate iran, all this while the
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controversy escalates over possible links to russia, threatening the president's foreign and domestic agenda. we will drill down on both stories this hour, speaking in a few minutes with secretary of state rex tillerson and later with senator john mccain. let's bring in the anchor of special report, bret baier, who is in saudi arabia with the latest on the president's trip. >> reporter: in the second day, the home of islam's holiest sites, president trump is calling terrorist barbaric criminals who must be stopped by a new u.s.-muslim coalition, which he says starts here on ancient soil. saying he's not here to lecture, president trump address of the leaders of more than 50 muslim majority countries, casting the fight against terrorism is a battle between good and evil. mrk speech on islam in a much
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softer tone that his company he has yet to use the phrase "radical islamic terrorism." >> let me say that you have a unique personality that is capable of doing the impossible. >> i agree. >> talk of new relationships. >> and new arms deals. >> nobody makes it like the united states. >> they pledged to buy $350 billion of u.s. military equipment and weapons over ten years and more than $160 billion of saudi investment in u.s. companies this year. if president trump's first foreign stop has been filled with foreign pageantry. he in stark contrast to the trips by obama, who was never greeted at the airport for taking. this trip, the saudis are already dancing in step.
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>> later president trump, known for his use of twitter, will speak here at a conference designed to stamp out extremism used social media. this trip was planned long ago but senior aides said they could not have asked for more in the first top with the warm embrace, which is something else to talk about back home. >> chris: bret baier reporting from saudi arabia, thanks for that. and joining us now from saudi arabia is the secretary of state rex tillerson. mr. secretary, resident trump is urging muslim leaders to join the "battle of good and evil," he's opening a center against extremism today, muslim leaders are pledging to cut off funding to radicals, but the big question i have is, is this just talk or other realty fare, concrete measures that will help us to stir isis and al qaeda and
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to stop the flow of new recruit recruits? >> secretary tillerson: i think it is historic what's happening here in riyadh under the king's leadership. his convening of the gcc counsel this morning, we had a very productive discussion on the subject of how to counterterrorism, how to defeat them and how it brings greater stability to the region and of course this afternoon he will deliver this important message to the convening of the arab summit. arab nations, muslim nations from around the world. i think the output of this, some framework agreements that are going to guide the actions going forward, concrete commitments being made as to how we will work together to defeat them, to defeat terrorism here in the region and as well as elsewhere. i think the other thing that's important is there's also an agreement to continue the dialogue, it doesn't end here. if there's a commitment to have another gcc settlement with the
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u.s. one year from now and one of the expectations is we will be measuring our project -- our progress towards the initiatives and agreements that were signed here and we will be looking for concrete results by which to measure each country's commitments. >> chris: gcc is the gulf council of nations. during the campaign canada trump had some tough things to say, here he is on the muslim religion. >> i think islam hates us. there's something there that is a tremendous hatred. we have to get to the bottom of it. >> chris: and here he is talking about saudi arabia. >> you talk about women and women's rights, so these are people that push gays off buildings. these are people that kill women and treat women horribly. >> chris: given that past rhetoric why should muslim
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leaders trust mr. trump now and on the other hand, if the president is so concerned about human rights, why isn't he talking about it publicly this weekend? >> secretary tillerson: chris, i think this is one of the great attributes of this president, he's willing to call issues out, confront them, speak very plainly and bluntly about them and in many ways that motivates these countries to want to understand why the feelings in the u.s. are the way they are but also to engage, to address those. i think that's what we are seeing in this visit to riyadh, this visit to the country that is the custodian of the two holy mosque and the president himself is that he's learned a lot on this trip that he's learned a lot about the people and their culture. i think this is a really important process in terms of how we move forward with this relationship between the muslim world and the non-muslim world.
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i think there's great recognition among all leaders of the muslim world but they have to take responsibility for what has happened in many respects, and they are taking responsibility and they are ready to join with us and other nations are confronting this terrible face of terrorism. >> chris: i've seen a draft of the president's speech, the big speech this afternoon. not a mention of human rights, not a mention of women's rights. you say he wants to speak concretely and frankly about this things, he's not doing that today. >> secretary tillerson: i think the weight to address those human rights issues and women's rights issues is to improve the conditions in the region. today conditions in the region are under a lot of stress because of the threat of terrorism and the threat that iran poses to instability in the region. these subjects are being discussed as well. there are efforts underway to i think improve the rights of women, the participation of women in society throughout the region but the primary reason we are here today is to confront
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this threat of terrorism. if we do not defeat dash, if we do not defeat these forces of evil, there will be no conditions under which we can even hope to improve the human rights for all the people in the region. >> chris: mr. secretary, you were in the oval office when the president met with the russian foreign minister and according to the official summary the president told him i just fired the head of the fbi, he was crazy, a real nut job, i face great pressure because of russia, that's taken off. my question to you, as someone who was in that meeting, was he telling the russians the firing comey was taking off legal and political pressure? >> secretary tillerson: that's not my interpretation of the conversation. i think with the president was trying to convey to the russians is i'm not going to be distracted by all these issues that are here at home, that
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affect us domestically, i'm not going to let that distract from our efforts to see if we can engage with you, engage with russia and identify areas where we might be able to work together. the president i think we emphasize the message to the russians that the relationship was at a low point and we need to change that. i think the point he was making is i'm not going to be distracted by those things that are happening here at home, or let them get in the way of the important work of engaging russia to see what can be done to improve this relationship. >> chris: he seemed to be saying that firing comey would help her move one the distractions. >> secretary tillerson: my take away from that conversation was not that at all, i think again he was simply saying to the russians, these issues at home are not going to get in the way of my effort in the effort of my government to see if we can find a way to move this relationship forward. >> chris: you said this week in washington you don't think
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that foreign leaders around the world care about what's going on in washington with regard to the president. here you are. >> secretary tillerson: i think the people and the rest of the world do not have the time to pay attention to what's happening domestically here. still i have to ask you, do you really believe that, because i got to tell you that ambassadors that i talked to here in washington are deeply concerned with the investigation into the president in question and wonder whether it's going to somehow prevent the u.s. from meeting its challenges around the world. >> secretary tillerson: i think all you have to do is watch the footage of your own coverage on the president on this historic visit to the king of saudi arabia, convening nations from throughout the regions, including africa. there's an enormous amount of enthusiasm being taken by the president on this issue. the tel aviv and then to rome,
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to the vatican, the audience with the pope. at my encounter with my counterparts, foreign ministers, i would also say heads of state, these are not the issues that are on their mind. the issues that are on their minds are security issues, economic issues, issues of common interest to both of our countries, that's what they want to talk about when i'm with the them. these domestic issues just simply never come up in our discussions. >> chris: in the time we have left, this is her first time on "fox news sunday," i will introduce you to something, which is something i hope you will do with us again, a lightning round, quick questions, quick answers on various hot spots around the world. an ugly incident in washington this week while turkish president looked on while his security beat and kicked protesters outside of his residence. are you going to do anything about that night >> we did call the ambassador of turkey into
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the state department to discuss what occurred within to say this is simply unacceptable, and we t and see what the outcome of that investigation is, but we have expressed our dismay at what occurred. >> chris: beyond expressing dismay at senator mccain says you should expel the turkish ambassador. >> secretary tillerson: i think we need to let the investigation concluded before we come to any decisions as that. >> chris: as i'm sure you know, north korea tested yet another ballistic missile today. isn't that one more indication that the new get tough policy of this administration, the end of strategic patients, is working? >> secretary tillerson: i wouldn't -- that would not be my take away at all. we are early in the stages of applying the economic pressure as well as the diplomatic pressure to the regime in north korea, hopefully they will get the message that the
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pathways of continuing their nuclear arms program is not a pathway to security or certainly prosperity. the ongoing testing is disappointing, it's disturbing and we ask that they cease that because until that cease that testing, clearly they have not changed their view. i think we are early in the game of putting pressure on them and one could also interpret that perhaps they are just acting out now in response to some of this pressure. >> chris: to any of the agreements that are being made this weekend with muslim nations, do any of them helped the united states in the effort to contain iran and its regional expansion? >> secretary tillerson: i think certainly the kind of security arrangements. obviously there were significant new arms sales packages announced yesterday with the kingdom. there were also sales going on to other important countries of the region.
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this strengthens the overall security posture of the gulf and arab nations in particular and i think makes it clear to iran that we the united states will stand with our partners here in the region to counter iran's hegemony. there pressure will be met by a strong unified front. >> chris: we all got to say -- you've gotten a chance to see it, we all got to see the video yesterday of you participating in that traditional arab sword dance and i have to tell you, you look pretty good while you are doing it, frankly more comfortable than the president or commerce secretary ross. had you been practicing? >> secretary tillerson: i hadn't been practicing, but it was not my first sword dance. >> chris: [laughs] >> secretary tillerson: i've been in the middle east for many
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years and not just in the kingdom but throughout the region. this was just such a wonderful welcome for the president last night, the spirit and the fund that was going on, it was very contagious for all of us. i think just the pure joy that you stay on the faces of the people here in saudi arabia, but also throughout the region with the president's visit, the importance of it. the great hope that it brings to them, something is finally going to be done to confront the spaces of terrorism and the destabilizing forces in the region. >> chris: secretary tillerson, i think i can safely say that this was the first time i've ever heard on "fox news sunday," this is not my first sword dance, we want to thank you, thanks for your time today and safe travels. >> secretary tillerson: thank you, chris. >> chris: up next we will bring in our sunday group to discuss president trump's ambitious first overseas trip and what he hopes to accomplish on the world stage. iabetes.
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>> president trump: they bought tremendous amounts of our military equipment and invested in the united states. that's what we like to hear. jobs. >> chris: donald trump in saudi arabia today busy making deals with arab leaders. it's time now for our sunday group, fox news senior political analyst brit hume. columnist for the hill juan williams, former democratic congresswoman jane harman, director of the woodrow wilson center, and kimberley strassel. congressman congresswoman, whatf this presidents trips to
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saudi arabia so far, day two in the effort to try to unite the muslim world against radical extremism? >> we have one president at a time and this is our president and i want this president to be successful on the trip. so far he is being successful. it's a little too much pageantry for my taste, i'm sure he loves it. the message and helps saudi arabia as much or more than it helps us. we are in the middle east, i love the idea that he's going to the sites of all three major religions. if he is able to deliver a message that is a little more nuanced than just iran is terrible, that will be more helpful. one last point, isis and most of these terror groups are sunni arab. the saudi arabia and the gulf states are sunni arabs. it's not just attacking shia arabs. it's more about the idea of terrorism. i hope his activities and speech
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address that. >> chris: i've seen a first draft of the speech that is very much that. the people that have suffered the most are sunni, the muslims were getting killed and not part of the world. we've seen other presidents make this kind of effort to try to unite the muslim world against the savages. they get lip service but then behind the scenes a lot of these muslim leaders, whether it's for payouts or for whatever reason, continue to find radicalism. what makes you think this time will be any different? >> what makes it different is eight years of a lack of leadership in the obama administration in which things really disintegrated there. what we see is all of these countries attending the summit have come to understand that allowing iran to move toward nuclear weapons has also allowed them to meddle more in all of these other countries through surrogates, this has caused problems for all of the gulf region.
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they now have a renewed interest in actually -- from their own self interest -- in working with donald trump. that's a chance for a reset and that's why it might be different. >> chris: what strikes me about this trip on a larger overview level is just how ambitious it is. the president going to the centers of islam, judaism and christianity, then engaging with nato and economic partners, and the word that white house officials are using in a briefing to help us this week, especially about the first part of the trip in saudi arabia and israel in the vatican, historic. i don't think that's an overstatement. >> no, but every presidential visit overseas is historic. dealing with foreign leaders always a part of it. this is unmistakably the stuff of the presidency. no other official in this country has responsibility for foreign policy the way a president does. no question about it, this is a
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very big deal, and the principal purposes here to try and strengthen saudi arabia as a bulwark against the growth of iran's power and second of course the big 50 states plus meeting to try to form a stronger coalition. >> chris: 50 muslim nations. >> that's right against terrorism. they are bringing the muslim world, or most of it coming together for that purpose, and it's a useful thing. there's a lot of detail here, you look at saudi arabia even as the president was going there for this purpose, the united states proposed the u.n. to add a saudi-based addition of isis to -- though subject to sanctions. >> chris: in effect, the saudi chapter. >> the saudi chapter of isis and they blocked stats for other countries. there's always a lot of detail work to be done.
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the purpose here is significant and its off to a very good start. >> chris: i want to pick up on something that kim said because the administration, not surprisingly, is emphasizing how different this presidents approach to foreign policy is from barack obama's and what they say is the key is not to preach, not to lecture, especially on human rights, especially in public, and rather instead to be more transactional and to try to make deals and get results. do you think that makes sense or no? >> i'm just a little taken aback because you can say that we are emphasizing deals, not diplomacy, but remember, not only president obama but president george w. bush, made arms deals with the saudis and they didn't -- it was just part of the deal, that's what you're doing. when you talk about president trump emphasizing jobs and deals, it comes at some cost to us because the lack of human
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rights attention, the lack of understanding that the saudis are indicating, everything from 9/11 to support for the radical radicals, to them addresses that preach hatred of israel and and hatred, i don't understand how you can say we will just do the sword dance that you were talking about with secretary tillerson. it seems to me they are flattering president trump, they are appealing to his ego. it does not speak to the central issue on the table, which is, are you going to change her behavior? >> if the purpose of this trip is to be over there talking about the terror threat. it was quite an amazing moment to watch melania trump get off of that airplane not wearing a headscarf and shaking the crown prince's hand. it's very symbolic, ivanka trump is over there, she will be doing
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around table. >> chris: michelle obama did the same thing. >> she did it, too. you also have to do by action, not just by lecture, not just by talking. if they are over there attempting behind the scenes -- that's where all the real action is taking place as well. these are all these events that are all for tv, but what you've got is an entire team of trump delegates that are doing behind the scenes -- code >> but i've heard from secretary rice, would have mccain is human rights are an essential part of our los america. >> the best way to deal with that issue is to do so with public announcements in the face of these people that are posting, or is it better to handle all the outward and visible stuff with diplomacy, which is what this is all about and to address these issues in a quieter way. we went with got to move on. >> you have to do both. it's good that the egyptians
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released one guy held in prison, but it really matters at the saudis now try civilians by military court. >> chris: with to take a breaker, we will see you all later. when we come back, senator john mccain on the president's first overseas trip, as well as his troubles here at home. so we need tablets installed... with the menu app ready to roll. in 12 weeks. yeah. ♪ ♪ the world of fast food is being changed by faster networks. ♪ ♪
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>> chris: as wade said, the president is conducting international diplomacy against a backdrop of intensifying investigations here at home.
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joining us now to discuss both, republican senator john mccain. welcome back. >> senator mccain: thanks for having me back. >> chris: what to think of the president's trip so far and do you think that realistically he can get muslim leaders to drop their support for extremism? >> senator mccain: i think this trip so far has been excellent. i think that the sunni arab world and particularly our traditional friends there are encouraged because of the very strained, if not estranged, relationship between the previous administration. i think it successful, i think it's important. there's no doubt that if we are going to impede the iranian's continued efforts to exert certainly significant strength in the region, this is an important step forward. >> chris: you wrote an article in "the new york times" recently in which you said that the u.s. must always stand up for human
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rights and not abandon oppressed people around the world. given that, what do you think of the decision, and you hurt secretary tillerson defended a few moments ago, not to discuss human rights publicly on this trip? >> senator mccain: my enduring hero and inspiration is a guy named ronald reagan. at the height of the cold war when people were talking about all these -- accommodation with the soviet union, ronald reagan stood for people. he went to the ball and said take down this wall. he wasn't talking about just the law, was talking about the wall that existed between freedom and oppression. when he spoke for nathan krinsky, one of the great human rights people in history, he always had human rights as a fundamental belief that we would eventually prevail over the totalitarian regime. >> chris: do you think that will get in the way of practical
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progress? >> senator mccain: i've heard that for years and you have heard it for years. we've got to be practical. america is a unique nation in history with all of the errors and failings and mistakes that we've made and god knows there's been lots of them, we have stood up for people. with this administration -- what they speak up for nathan? i don't think so. we have to -- they said we will talk about it quietly, i want to -- i want a close relationship with these arab countries, i want to work with them, not so much because of isis, that's very important, but also against iranian hedge enemy. >> chris: you've got a lot of attention this week with some remarks you made -- you are already beginning to laugh about it, the investigation into possible links between russia and the trump campaign. sure you are. >> senator mccain: i think it's reaching the point where it's a watergate size and scale
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and a couple of other scandals that you and i have seen. it's a centipede, the suit continues to drop. >> chris: what exactly are you saying? >> senator mccain: what i'm saying is with the appointment of mr. moeller, we are now at that stage of a scandal. now the question is how is it handled, is it handled like watergate was where drip, drip, drip, every day more and more, or look ronald reagan handled iran contra, a scandal, he fired people, went on national television and said we made mistakes, we did wrong and we are not going to do it again in the american people let him move forward. what i was saying is there's two ways of handling a situation such as this. with the appointment of mr. moeller it is now at that level. the point is we get it behind us and put all the information out there and move forward. the american people are very
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forgiving. they understand that no one is infallible, so what my point was, let's get all the facts out, let's move forward and we will try to address the challenges that face this nation, which i would argue are probably more diverse and challenging than any time since the end of the cold war. >> chris: do you think this is a scandal? >> senator mccain: i don't know if you want to use the word scandal. >> chris: that's what you used used. >> senator mccain: the politicians prayer, the words i utter today, be tender and sweet because tomorrow i may have to eat them. i'm reminded of that. what i was saying was what i just described to you, i think if you want to use the word scandal, that's fine. as i did. the point is it's a challenge to washington, d.c., the way we do business, a challenge to bipartisanship and a challenge to the effectiveness of this newly elected president. >> chris: some democrats say that the president fired fbi
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director james comey in order to impede the investigation, but the acting fbi director pushed back on that. curious. >> there has been no effort to impede our investigation today. simply put, you cannot stop the men and women of the fbi from doing the right thing, protecting the american people and upholding the constitution. >> chris: why do you think the president fired and? >> senator mccain: i don't know. honestly, i cannot explain a lot of his actions. i don't think it was a wise thing to do. mr. comey was highly respected and highly regarded. i can't explain it, i don't think it was a smart thing to do. >> chris: do you think it was an effort to impede the investigation? >> senator mccain: i do not, no. i know that this issue has infuriated the president. that's obvious from his public appearances and to statements, but i don't think -- he's the
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president of the united states and he will face the events -- i'm not sure you would have had the appointment of mr. muller if that had happen. >> chris: do you say that the president should have never let russian foreign minister into the oval office in the first place last week, now it turns out, i want to put this back up on the screen, that mr. trump put in the official, told him i just hired the head of the fbi, he was crazy, or will not drive. i faced great pressure because of russia, that's taken off. how do you read that? >> senator mccain: i don't know how to read it except -- i'm almost speechless because i don't know why someone would say something like that, but i know this, mr. lab rob is the stooge of a thug and a murderer who use precision weapons to strike hospitals in aleppo, his human
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rights violations all over the place, invade ukraine, taken crimea, has acted in the most thuggish and outrageous fashion and he had no business in the oval office. the president to putin in the meeting, under the right circumstances that might be okay, but not this stooge lavro lavrov, who was nothing but a propagandist. >> chris: the president is considering a number of people to be the new fbi director to replace james comey, including your old friend former senator joe lieberman, after some democrats criticized him, you said this, i'm going to put it up on the screen. "joe lieberman has more experience than all of my democratic colleagues combined, so screw them. you can quote me." is it time to switch to decaf?
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>> senator mccain: the thing that's really disappointing about this is probably the most beloved and respected member of the united states and it was joe lieberman by republican and democrat. the same democrats that proclaimed their friendship and bondage with joe lieberman are now the ones that are trashing him. it's a commentary on why we get cynical in this town. >> chris: the president says that the real story here are all the leaks that are coming out. i've got to say, the air force one was barely off the ground on its way to saudi arabia and we had a big explosive stories on the front page of "the new york times," the front page of "the washington post." do you believe that there was a concerted effort among elements inside the intelligence and law enforcement communities to bring this president down? >> senator mccain: i can't go quite that far but i think it's outrageous, i think it's a pictorial of their oath of office.
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i think it's disgraceful. these facts would come out matter what i did in the course of a normal investigation it goes on. i say shame on them because they are not serving their country or even their own instruments inte long run. it's going to think the investigation should go to them? >> senator mccain: i think is a violation of the law to leaked classified information and therefore they should be held accountable. >> chris: finally, less than a minute left, you heard my discussion with secretary tillerson about that violent reaction, the beat on. these pictures, i got to say, are pretty bad, right here in the heart of washington. turkish security beating, kicking peaceful protesters. you heard the secretary's reaction, are you satisfied with that? >> senator mccain: again, this decaf issue, you know what i said, though the turkish ambassador the hell out of washington.
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those were innocent people that were sent out there. that's not america and it's not allowed, peaceful demonstrators being beaten up? that is flat out wrong and to say that we had asked for further information, you don't need any further information, just look at the clip that we just showed. they want good to have you back, always good to talk with you, thank you. >> senator mccain: thank you. >> chris: one-way combat, washington is abuzz over the russia investigation but the president is determined to proceed with business as usual. will bring back our sunday panel. plus, what would you like to ask the panel about the new special counsel and what it means to the president's agenda? go to twitter and facebook, @foxnewssunday, and we may use your question on the air. [ birds chirping ]
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>> president trump: i respect the move but the entire thing has been a witch hunt and there is no collusion between certainly myself in my campaign, but i can only speak for myself and the russians, zero. >> chris: president trump sing the appointment of a special counsel is a waste of time and only serves to divide the country and we are back now with the panel. there were so many leaks, so many stories this week, including that comey memo that he wrote right after a meeting in the oval office with the president in which he said the president told him, why don't you let the investigation of michael flynn: . what strikes you about where we are now in this? >> i've never seen leaks on this scale. "the wall street journal" came calling saint there are leaks and then there's niagara falls. we are under niagara falls right now. the problem is, even if you
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assumed that all of these excerpts we are seeing are accurate, they are only part of the story and we have to wait a while to get the rest of the story. it is perfectly possible to interpret what was apparently set to comey in the oval office indiscreetly to be sure by donald trump as being not a request to shut down investigation but the question to comey as to now that flynn had been fired, and at the time "the washington post" had reported an examination of his phone calls with the russian ambassador had uncovered nothing improper, would it be possible with disco because i think trump thinks he's a mission, he made things plain is innocent, that's indiscreet, it's probably improper, but it's not obstruction of justice. if in the atmosphere in which we are not living everything is like watergate, reporters would like to relive that. >> chris: on this question of
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leaks and what's true here, we got a number of questions from you for the panel and we got this on twitter from bob who writes "what crimes have been committed? not speculation, or fax. what factual proof is there? no innuendos, no rumors, just facts. "how do you answer? >> washington was broken before donald trump was elected president. there were leaks before he became president. how do i answer him? we don't know if there were crimes committed, that's what a special counsel, not prosecutor, but counsel, to investigate collusion, any possible collusion between the front campaign and the russian meddling in the 2016 election, was established. we will see. congress also has a role. it's important. i was here for watergate, i wasn't on one of the committees but i was in the counsel to the senate and congress played an
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important role on a bipartisan basis getting some tough answers to the toughest questions. >> chris: are you struggled by this torrent of leaks that seem to become an? >> very troubled. john mccain is right, leakers should be prosecuted. the justice department should go after them. we have enough statues to go after them in this climate of partial leaking is even worse because then there's selective quotes and you can make any thinking true. >> chris: the white house got more bad news this week with the announcement that former fbi director james comey will testify in public before the senate intelligence committee sometime after memorial day and comey supporters are already trying to build a case for him at his credibility and what is going to say, for instance, talking about the time two days after the inauguration when the president singled him out in the white house. take a look. >> he grabs the hand and kind of pulls him into a hug. the hug is entirely one-sided. one guy in the hug is shaking
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hands and the other guy is hugging and comey was completely disgusted. disgusted by the episode. >> chris: we've seen this before, this comey testimony, this hearing, nothing whether he's right or wrong and certainly are, people are going to push back, it will be a moment of high drama. >> everything about him is high drama at the moment. it's interesting here, if you all these leaks happening. this is not unusual for james comey. he keeps these notes that clearly were taken as an insurance policy, precisely encase he did get fired along the way. this has happened in the past. he's come out and suddenly at a piece of paper showing a letter that he sent that he was not on board with the bush's enhanced interrogation tactics. very meticulous note keeping for the purpose of making sure that he's exonerated later if there
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are any questions that are coming out. call me to be interesting about this hearing whether or not it tells us anything of use because he's going to be reticent to talk about any questions that actually do need answering. given that a lot of it is classified. >> chris: i have to say, juan, that the president supporters are already beginning, if comey are trying to build them up, from supporters are trying to tear him down, saying if there really was this attempt to obstruct justice, go easy on flynn, why didn't he go public with it, why didn't he resign, tell more people in the justice department. >> give me a moment to say if you have a leak, please call me at fox news. i'm all for leakers, i think leakers are good contributors to democracy, i don't think we condemned obama for going harshly against people who are disclosing information acting as if they are agents of some foreign government, this is a democracy, reporters play an essential role, the
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first amendment. >> chris: 's this the reporters. don't they have a responsibility? >> in some case they sign an oath, but guess what? we have as jane harman, a history of people in the country talking to the press, leaking, taking risks. all of a sudden just because of this president, all of a sudden everybody -- they are to be condemned? 's field have you ever seen a torrent of leaks like this? >> it's unbelievable. i think everybody will say that, supporters and opponents. i think jim comey should not have commented -- if he felt that he was being pressured to drop it, that would compromise the ongoing investigation. he took notes and his job is to see the investigation -- not to act on his thoughts. as brit hume's eye, you have to sequel your intention and i don't think that's been demonstrated to make the obstruction of justice case and by the way, high crimes and
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misdemeanors, that's up to the people in the senate. i can't wait for the comey hearing, it will be really interesting. thank you, pal, see you next sunday. up next, our "power player of the week," a voice of her generation shows no signs of slowing down. ♪ but along comes a radically new way to buy a car, called truecar. now it is. truecar has pricing data on every make and model, so all you have to do is search for the car you want, there it is. now you're an expert in less than a minute. this is how car buying was always meant to be. this is truecar. ♪
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>> chris: the music business is notoriously tough and fickle. fingers can have one big hit and are never heard from again. that's why it's so remarkable for someone to keep turning out classics for more than 50 years. here is our "power player of the week" ." >> judy: i think of things from childhood and i think of things from last week. i think of things from tomorrow. i'm in a kind of state of meditation. >> chris: judy collins is talking about what she thinks of when she sings a song. something she's done so memorably for more than half a century.
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♪ >> judy: all of a sudden you are in the right place at the right time doing the right thing. it was totally magical. >> chris: collins exploded on the music scene in new york's greenwich village in 1961. it was the world of pete seeger and woody guthrie and bob dylan. was at the music that attracted to, or was that the message? >> judy: it was everything, creative, it was exciting, people were writing songs about every aspect of life. >> chris: it was a world where late one night joni mitchell sang her both sides now over the phone. >> judy: i said i will be right over. this is fantastic x next to it a phrase you like? >> judy: tears and fears, to say i love you write out loud. >> chris: how would you choose what works for you and what didn't? >> judy: if it hits me here i sing it, if that doesn't happen, i never want to hear it again.
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>> chris: in 1975 she heard another song by stephen sondhei sondheim. are we a pair. >> judy: how could you not want to sing that song? >> chris: it won the grammy for song of the year. collins made her mark in other ways, protesting for civil rights and against the war in vietnam. in addition to singing her own songs and others, or failing love affair with stephen stills inspired him to write the classic "sweet judy blue eyes." he was trying to win you back. >> judy: yes he was. >> chris: ended at work? >> judy: no. i said it's beautiful, but it's not going to get me back. [laughs] >> chris: she has had emotional problems over the years, depression and bulimia, alcoholism.
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you've been very public about it, why? >> judy: because i can't keep my mouth shut. >> chris: she's written several books about it, including her latest one, cravings. not surprisingly she says what she finds most healing is to sing. >> judy: of the when i was still drinking, i very much would get behind the microphone and shut my eyes and saying for two hours and that was a period where nobody could get at me. >> chris: before we knew it, collins was giving us a private concert. at age 78 she still does more than 100 performances a year. >> judy: i love to sing and the like to and the music is on and the sound is great and the band is great and i'm exactly where i should be doing what i should be doing. >> chris: no plans to retire? >> judy: oh, my god!
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it's not in my repertoire! i think part of it is that i am an artist and artist don't retire. >> chris: 's this summer, collins will tour the country with an old boyfriend stephen stills, marking the first time they've shared the stage. i know about her family here. on mother's day last weekend our executive producer jessica, nine months pregnant, ran the show in the control room hoping her son would wait until we were done. two days later, mason robert joined the world. mason, mom, dad, and big sisters eliza and evelyn are all doing well. if that's it for today, have a great week and we will see you next "fox news sunday" ."
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