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>> chris: i'm chris wallace. lawrence turns deadly as its devastating winds and flooding move inland from the carolina coast. ♪ >> i do want to emphasize that this is only the beginning. lawrence is a very slow mover, it's an uninvited brute who doesn't want to leave. >> chris: we will have live reports on the ground and get an update on the federal response from administrator brock long. and will learn about the impact on people in the storm's path from north carolina senator thom tillis. then, an allegation of sexual misconduct over 30 years ago. will it affect the confirmation of judge brett kavanaugh to the supreme court?
we will ask a key member of the senate judiciary committee, republican john kennedy. plus former drum campaign chairman paul manafort strikes a plea deal to cooperate on the special counsel robert mueller. we'll ask our sunday panel what manafort's about-face means for president trump. and our "power player of the week" of the week, men of honor. >> i was doing it for my country and my fellow marines. we have to win a war. >> chris: all right now on on "fox news sunday" ." and hello again from fox news in washington. as devastating as florence has been so far, the worst may be you have to come. the slow moving storm is now responsible for at least 14 deaths, more than 30 inches of rain falling in some places and
forecasters are warning of catastrophic flooding across the region for days. in a moment will discuss the threat and response with fema administrator brock long. and north carolina senator thom tillis. but first, we have fox team coverage, the carolina coast with the latest on the rescue effort. but we begin with steve harrigan and a look at the damage further inland. steve. >> chris, 50 miles inland from where this storm made landfall there are arty parts some north carolina towns which are . families stagger to safety. this woman is asked why she is shaking. >> don't want to leave my house, that's my big thing. >> despite round-the-clock efforts, hundreds of thousands are without electricity. homes and businesses cut off, flooded or torn apart by the wind.
>> will make it. it will start over. >> the only way to reach some neighborhoods is by 7-ton trucks he asked mike last used in the war in iraq. >> was never seen anything like this. we didn't anticipate it like this. we've just never seen it -- we've been here 11 years, we've never seen nothing like this. >> as the rain continues, more residents of north carolina soon be saying the same thing. an evacuation order has artie been issued for the city of fayetteville. chris. >> chris: steve harrigan reporting from sneads ferry north carolina. steve, thank you. now let's bring in leland vittert off the coast in atlantic beach. leland buried >> florence roared ashore here thursday morning and heavy rain has not stopped since. many of the hardest hit areas we can even get to buried behind me is the closeness marina so many
of the charter fishermen and shrimpers who work these waters raced to pull their boats out of the water to protect them only to have them destroy the land. not only are so many homes are flooded or leveled, but florence took people's ability to make a living and the channels and estuaries by the east, locals told me there are still lots of residents who chose to write out the storm and are now cut off. >> the rescue business right after the storm is a dangerous one. we are right now just off in the channels. and you can see all of the boats that were trashed here. believe it or not, people actually try to ride the storm out on a couple of these boats. now we are out looking for them. the coast guard has been overwhelmed by the number of calls. seeing their helicopters circling above here. as the storm moves west, so to the flunked on my floodwaters, and the rescuers, including the military who were lending a han hand. florence continues to move slower than most people walk, meaning conditions that normally last for hours during a
hurricane are lasting for days. what we can see an account for much of the wind damage like what is behind me, the flooding and rain destruction continues and is getting worse. >> chris: leland vittert reporting from atlantic beach. thank you. joining us now from fema headquarters here in washington is brock long, the head of that agency. mr. long, let's start with an overview. how much damage has hurricane florence don, how much more damage isn't likely to do in the days and even weeks ahead? >> mr. long: unfortunately we've still got several days to go. not only are you going to see more impact across north carolina, particularly from the central to the western area, but we are also anticipating you are about to see a lot of damage going through west virginia all the way up to ohio as the system exits out. >> chris: i saw an astonishing figure that this storm is going to jump in a frame to fill
chesapeake bay, trillions of gallons of rain. how much damage is this going to do in terms of inland flooding? and how do you compare this storm in terms of inundating an area to last year's hurricane harvey? >> mr. long: hurricane harvey is a little bit different than what we are seeing. if you want to compare what type of damages, go back and look in 1999 at hurricane floyd or the most recent events with matthew. south carolina is probably looking at something like a walking that occurred several years ago. so what we do is we work with the state and we try to figure out ahead of time where we think the impacts are going to be. the thing i'm most worried about are the isolated communities, those who are stuck in their homes right now that may not have access to pharmaceuticals, medical squats, whatever. where highly focused on taking care of people and fulfilling that mission as well as the hundreds of people have artie been rescued and that's a
coordinated effort from the urban search and rescue teams that we predeployed many days ago all the way down to the local neighbor helping neighbor. >> chris: what is your sense of the response from the federal level, from the state level, from the local level so far. how much, for instance, did prepositioning of assets, personnel and supplies, health and do you see at this point any holes in the responsible government? >> i don't see any holes. i think we were in the prepared position as we can be. you've got strong state emergency management agencies and strong governors that have capability. north carolina, mike is one of the most talented state directors out there. north carolina has been through this. they built a capability that we back. the way this works is it's locally executed, federally supported and that's the model that we shoot for so when governor cooper has a shortfall or is having trouble meeting a
response, then these guys behind me are coordinating the assets and resources down through him to that local level and that's what you are seeing play out. >> chris: what's your biggest concern right now? >> mr. long: life safety. i think the message that's got to be put forward to the people is please stay out of the flooded waters the waters can be charged from electric lines. sometimes when people walk on streets the manhole covers could be missing, the road may not even be there. it could have been washed out. so please stay out of those waters. don't become a victim and we will continue to support as best we can but you have to set the expectations. this is going to be a long, frustrating event for people that have lost everything, that are isolated, the power is off emma but we are doing everything we can to help our state and local partners get this corrected. >> chris: i think most people focus on something like this on the impact on the coast and the storm surge, but as i understand it, we could have inland flooding of rivers, that they could reach a crest sometime
next week. that is a very strong potential danger, isn't it? >> mr. long: you are absolutely right. what happened about a week before this event hit was the remnants of gordon, tropical storm gordon, pushed through the mid atlantic states saturating the reversal all of that water has got to come down and make its way to the coast and its traveling south. so the rivers are pretty saturated which exacerbates this problem. you're going to see some -- we are seeing some dams break. there's no life safety implications so what we have to focus on are there any dams that are going potentially going to break that could cause great impact to loss of life, and right now we monitor all those situations. >> chris: obviously one of the things you want to do in these disasters is learn from your mistakes and the response to hurricane maria last year became an issue this week. here is president trump. >> i think puerto rico is an
incredible unsung sus. the bt job we puerto rico but nobody when i understand that. >> chris: but this summer, fema did an after action report that said this. the agency could have better anticipated the severity of hurricanes irma and maria would cause long-term significant damage to the territory's infrastructure. so which is it? >> mr. long: are after action report is an open and honest assessment. but the way that this works and i keep saying this is emergency management -- successful disaster response like a chair with four legs. at one leg is the federal government, the second is the state and local, the third leg is the private sector, 85% of the infrastructure is the citizen being prepared and neighbor helping neighbor. i think what you saw in the california wildfires, texas is all for those -- obviously in puerto rico there were several parts of that chair missing.
the commonwealth and the local menace apologies or we are concentrating on building a robust emergency management capability. in one of the largest employers. fema is not one the largest employers in puerto rico trying to build a capability but when it comes to the infrastructure the greatest thing the deferred maintenance, the dilapidated infrastructure, infrastructure that crumbled is nothing that's within my control, but now we got to go back in and make sure we are rebuilding puerto rico in a manner that it's more resilient, economically viable so we don't go through this again. with the nation learned is it takes all of us coming together like what we are doing in north carolina. >> chris: whoever is responsible, officials in puerto rico now accept a study that there were a around 3,000 hurricane-related deaths but this week mr. trump tweeted thi this. this was done by democrats, this number, to make me look as bad as possible.
western, simple factual question, do you dispute this number of 3,000 hurricane related deaths? >> mr. long: there are several different studies that are all over the place when it comes to death in the official stance of fema is we don't count deaths. the only thing that would come remotely close to data that we would have is the funeral benefits that we push forward. i think the president is fully supportive -- i know he is fully supportive of fema and he realizes that the mission that we went in to help support was incredibly complex. and there is a difference between direct deaths and indirect deaths. one study could have studied the entire year that's gone by about a number of indirect deaths over time or whatever versus a six-month study and george washington. there's a lot of issues with numbers being all over the place. it's hard to tell what's accurate and what's not, but we have got to come together as a country to focus on the rebuilding of puerto rico and building a resilient infrastructure. at the bottom line is puerto rico had one of the oldest power grids on the globe,
44 years old, it did not work, and when the power is out you see escalated problems big time when it comes to a functional hospital system or whatever it may be, working water and different things. if that escalates problems in the future and that's what we're trying to focus on. that's where our attention is focused and without the full support of the president behind us. he understands how complex this has been and he's frustrated by. >> chris: mr. long, thank you. thanks for taking the time to talk with us and obviously you've got a big situation on your hands. thank you, sir. >> mr. long: thank you. >> chris: let's move now to a red cross shelter in north carolina where senator thom tillis is standing by. senator, what are you seeing on the ground in your state? did people obey evacuation orders and are they finding shelter? >> senator tillis: they are finding shelter. i want to thank the red cross for the work they are doing here and across the state.
but there were some people who made the dangerous decision to not heed the evacuation notices. a number of people who had to be arrested over the past 24, 36 hours were largely people who decided to stay in an area that was judged unsafe. were going to have more evacuation notices as the rivers rise. you need to heed the warnings, get out of harm's way. >> chris: what can you tell us about problems with looters? >> senator tillis: we've had one report down in wilmington. i don't think that is widespread and law enforcement takes it very seriously and that particular report i think the store manager chose not to have law enforcement intervene. for the most part i think people have really been focused on keeping themselves safe and obey the law and order that we need as we go through the recovery. >> chris: how much damage -- obviously it's just an estimate at this point, but how much damage will this do to your
state? are we talking billions of dollars, and how long before life in north carolina gets back to anything close to normal? >> senator tillis: they gave you a comparison, matthew had about two years ago, we are still recovering from hurricane matthew. i think that the storm is likely going to produce impacts greater than hurricane matthew. the agriculture industry, the largest industry and our state is hard-hit. we will have to sort out the crop damage. the floods that are going to come, as you mentioned with the fema director, the floods that come midweek are likely to be as damaging or more damaging than the original event. so we got to sort all that out. i think that it's fair to say in terms of economic impact rebuilding that we are talking in the billions of dollars. >> chris: and how long before life in north carolina gets back to normal? >> senator tillis: it's very difficult to say. with the rivers and with the statewide impact.
i'm in charlotte right now. we are beginning to get the rain bands that have been taking days to get here, then it's going to move up into the mountains. those are all going to fill river basins. if they're going to flow down to north carolina and south carolina or out to our coast and it's very difficult to really understand what's ahead, but i did a flyover about 36 hours after matthew at the eastern part of the state and we thought it was bad then and two days later we saw damage that far surpassed with the initial impact that that category one storm. people need to take it seriously. the fact that it's a tropical depression means that it's a very serious weather and rain event. so listen to local authorities, access the help. i was also going to mention fes an app you can get on an android or iphone i can give you access to resources. you may be able to volunteer in your community and help other people know what their resources are to help us as we go through
this disaster. >> chris: finally, i've got about a minute left and you took me right where i wanted to go. what have you thought of the response from government at all levels? federal, state, local. were they as prepared as they could before a terrible storm like this? >> senator tillis: i think so. with the way the storm was tracking. if there were some people that would say position here our position there. i think they positioned in a central location and got them out of there as quickly as they could. the governor is doing a great job. i agree with the fema director. we have had experienced this with four. i think north carolina does it about as well as anybody in the country. >> chris: unfortunately you have too much experience with it. senator, thank you, thanks for your time. our thoughts and prayers go out to all of those caught in the storm surge. >> senator tillis: thank you, chris. >> chris: up next paul manafort reaches a deal to
comfort. what we deliver by delivering. >> he worked for me for a very short period of time, but he happens to be a very good person and i think it's very sad what they've done to paul manafort. >> what i would say is too except the responsibility and he wanted to make sure that his family was able to remain safe and live a good life. >> chris: president trump last month expressing support for his former campaign chairman and
manafort's attorney on friday explaining why his client took the plea deal, agreeing to cooperate with the special counsel. it's time now for our sunday group. g.o.p. strategist karl rove. former democratic congresswoman jane harman, director of the woodrow wilson center. julie pace, washington bureau chief for the associated press and author of the deep state, former republican congressman jason chaffetz. julie, paul manafort has long ties to pro-russian ukrainians. he was one of the people who attended the trump tower meeting in june of 2016. how significant, potentially, is his decision to cooperate with the special counsel, and how concerned are they in the white house by his decision? >> i think there are a lot of unknowns here still. if we don't know the extent of what paul manafort is going to be telling bob mueller. if we don't know what mueller's team is hoping to get out of paul manafort but it actually is that unknown that i think is
really unnerving the white house. despite what the president and a lot of his advisors thing he played just a small real in the campaign, he was the campaign chairman and he was there for a significant period of time both in the trump tower meeting and one thing that hasn't gotten quite as much attention as he was there during the republican convention when there was a change in language on the platform that related to ukraine and manafort was directly involved in it. so the unknown, what he could tell bob mueller and what bob mueller is after in this deal with paul manafort is what does have the white house nervous right now. >> chris: we should point out it's not like mueller just got on speculation. the fact is to get a deal lawyers have to offer a proper wear in effect they would say if you were to give us a deal, here's what our client would say. >> bob mueller knows what paul manafort can offer him. it's the white house that doesn't know. they are the ones that are in the dark right now but bob mueller would not have made this deal with manafort presumably unless they thought there was some amount of information that
would be helpful to their case. >> chris: congressman chaffetz, how worried should president trump and his team be about manafort's decision to make a deal? >> i think there's a reason to be very worried. and as long as there's a special counsel i think the president has some degree of peril. you combine that with cohen and his striking a deal, you just don't know exactly what it is that they have. there's been no evidence of any collusion, no evidence that has anything affecting the outcome of the election, but it still is a huge question work. >> chris: your thoughts? >> i think one of the interesting things we are likely to learn more about is the republican national convention where an official 80 gordon charles the chairman of the subcommittee is you need to change your language on ukraine calling for lethal defensive weapons to a more generalized assistance. at the end of the day i'm not sure that's anything that's chargeable. it simply shows how much -- it
could show how much manafort was attempting to use his involvement in the drum campaign to heal his relationships with his paymasters in moscow and kiev. i have to, as a matter of personal reveal, paul manafort for some strange reason in his letter to trump offering his assistants declared that i was his blood enemies since college days. i haven't seen the guy in 20 years. >> chris: you weren't in college 20 years ago. >> okay. and this is a parlor game, we don't know what we don't know but i go back to one fundamental thing. this was a campaign that lead to more than any campaign that i've seen in my lifetime. and if there was collusion we would have known it by now. i think we will see some entertaining things. if we will see some important things but i'm not certain that were going to see anything that touches necessarily the oval office. >> chris: president trump kept saying how much he respected manafort for not caving to
prosecutors, but a few weeks ago it almost seemed to anticipate friday's developments. take a look. >> for 30 or 40 years i've been watching flippers. everyone's wonderful and then they get ten years in jail and a flip on whoever the next highest oneness or as as high as you can go. it almost ought to be outlawed. >> chris: congresswoman, let's be realistic. the special counsel crushed manafort. he question financially, the question legally in the sense that manafort is a man of 69, faces at least ten years in prison or dead at least before this deal. is the president right, is there something wrong with flipping? >> i don't think so. congress does have a role in setting procedures for federal courts and in defining what is a crime. so he is not wrong then maybe someone could argue that maybe some of the procedures should be changed, but we have a vested
interest in speedy trials. that's one of the laws that congress passed while i was a staffer and making deals with people is a way to resolve their issues and the goal is the truth. the goal isn't question people. if manafort did all these things wrong, i'm sorry, i'm not particularly sympathetic. let me say one of the thing to support what karl said. karl, i'm agreeing with you. a lot of what's going on is manafort's bluster, that's my view. directed some think tanks to do stuff, including the working center, he didn't. my point is that mueller is meticulous and he's doing a mob prosecution. circles within circles and manafort, my guess is has a lot to explain and that's why he made this deal. >> chris: i want to pick up on that with you, congressman. because this is what happens, not to say this is any comparison to president trump on the white house, but this is what prosecutors do in mob deals. you get the little fish, you get
them coming you can pick them, you squeeze them and do get them to flip on the bigger fish. >> that's been done for eons. but what is so different to conservatives who look at this, that's not how they dealt with the hillary clinton situation. five times they handed out immunity and in those immunity agreements which i have read there is no requirement that they cooperate with the federal government. and yet you go and look at how this is handled and it's totally different. it's the duplicity that is driving conservatives crazy here in washington, d.c. it's just not fair because it's not done the same way. >> chris: i want to pick up on one other issue and i don't expect her to have an answer. i'm asking it basically for theory because the expectation was that one of the reasons that paul manafort was hanging so tough and going to trial and spending all this money was that if he stayed true to the president and the president kept praising him, that eventually he'd get a pardon from the president and his problems would go away. why do you think that manafort
decided to give up on that strategy? >> a couple of reasons and you alluded to some of them. paul manafort is 69 years old. he's had so much financially taken away from him already. i think he is concerned about what happens to his family if he goes to jail after his first trial. and i think if you or anybody, not just paul manafort, and you are hanging your future on a decision that president trump is going to make, that's probably about strategy because he someone productive old and certainly he was signaling at some of his rhetoric after the first trial that if manafort did hang, that he could get a pardon, but trump, again, is someone predicable. i think if that is your strategy to go through a second trial and hope for a pardon i think was probably getting some pretty strong advice to think otherwise. >> chris: and he apparently took that advice. we have to take a break. we will see you all a little later. up next up, a bitter confirmation battle over supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh takes a new turn. we will talk with a key
see what a raymond james financial advisor can do for you. >> chris: coming up, supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh denies an allocation of sexual misconduct while he was in high school as the judiciary committee prepares to vote. >> all i know is what i've written some two or three sentences that was in some report that ca
♪ >> chris: the senate judiciary committee has scheduled a vote this week to send the nomination to the supreme court of judge brett kavanaugh to the senate floor. but will a letter accusing him of sexual misconduct and high school derail his confirmation? joining us now from louisiana, senator john kennedy, a republican member of the judiciary committee.
we should know we invited all ten committee democrats to join us today, none of them excepted. but we are happy to have you, senator kennedy. what do you make of this allegation against brett kavanaugh back when he was a teenager? do you think it will do anything to derail his nomination, his confirmation? >> senator kennedy: i'm fairly confident that our founding fathers did not intend the process to work this way. so far it's pretty much been an intergalactic freak show. senator grassley, our chairman, did the best he could at the hearing. senators kept interrupting him. they ignored the rules. we had over 240 protesters who stood up screaming. the only thing missing i think was the headgear. there were wild accusations about cavanaugh that he's evil and hates women, he hates
children. he hates little warm puppies. and now we have this recent allegation by senator feinstein. here's what we know. she's produced a letter, it's a secret letter and we are not entitled to see it or know who wrote it. it supposedly was put together with the help of stanford law school. it says the 35 years ago when she was a teenager and judge kavanaugh was a teenager he allegedly made sexual advances against her at a party. cavanaugh denies it. if the only other person in the room denies it. senator feinstein has had the letter since july, for three months. she said nothing, nothing, zero. she didn't say anything in the confirmation hearing, she didn't say anything in her confidential
session with judge kavanaugh when the senators and the nominee met privately and now after it's all over she produces the letter. in my opinion, most americans are looking at this, most mainstream americans they are thinking that congress has hit rock bottom and started to date. and i have been embarrassed by the whole process and frankly, no disrespect to senator feinstein porter stanford law school but i'm a little bit offended. i sit on judiciary committee. they had the stuff for three months. if they were serious about an they should have told us about it. >> chris: okay. that was a full answer. do you think that your committee will approve the kavanaugh nomination and send it to the floor this week as scheduled? >> senator kennedy: yes.
i think the vote will be 11-10. >> chris: strict party line vote. >> senator kennedy: state party line vote. i think the nomination will come to the floor. i think every republican will vote for judge kavanaugh. i think at least two and probably more democrats will. you may disagree with judge kavanaugh's judicial philosophy. i i don't. kavanaugh believes that the role of a judge is to interpret the law, not make a lot. and i agree with that. no fair-minded american can believe that he is not qualified. he went to yale law school, he has a total command of supreme court precedent. i think he's a legal rock star. this allegation, i don't know what our democratic friends expect us to do. what do they want us to do? we got a letter, but it secret,
we don't know who wrote it. all we know is that a female wrote it from california and stanford law school culture rated. who are we going to cross-examine, senator feinstein? give me a break. >> chris: i want to ask you. i think folks already recognize if they didn't know you already, your colorful. in one of the things that you say is that this hearing show that crazy never takes a vacation in congress. i want to ask you about two democratic senators and what they did in the hearings. first of all, cory booker who said he was defying the rules and releasing confidential emails, here he is. >> i will say that i did willingly violate the chairs world on the committee confidential process. i take full responsibility for violating that, sir. >> chris: but of course as we all know now it turns out the committee had already released
those confidential emails before cory booker made such a big show about releasing them. and then there was democratic senator kamala harris, who sounded like she had a bombshel bombshell. here she is. >> have you discussed mueller or his investigation with anyone at the law firm founded by mark counselors, president trump's personal lawyer? >> be sure about your answer, sure. >> chris: but as long as that sounded she never produced any evidence that in fact kavanaugh had talked to anybody of the law firm. what do you think was going on with the democrats in this hearing? >> senator kennedy: are not going to impugn the motives of senator harris or senator booker. i was presiding for senator senator grassley one senator booker first started his cross-examination of the judge with a document that was supposed to be confidential. and i was asked to cut him off. i said i'm not going to cut him
off. let it rip. let it all come out. but here's the bottom line. both corey and senator harris, they want an activist, liberal judge. they want a judge who will rewrite the constitution every other thursday to advance political agendas that they can't get by the voters and a representative democracy. i don't. i think that judges are supposed to call the balls on the strikes. they are supposed to say what the law is, not with the law ought to be. we just disagree. that's why god made congress. let's go vote. here's where we are. let's go vote. we don't everything we can do. i know we got the last minute secret allegation but there's nothing we can do about that. kavanaugh has been through six, not four, not five, six fbi background checks. none of the stuff is ever come
up before. >> chris: i've got about a minute left so i'm going to invoke closure here. want to switch out subjects with you and ask you about paul manafort's decision to take a plea deal and agree to cooperate with the special counsel. your thoughts on how big a deal this conceivably could be? >> senator kennedy: all of this is just speculation. i can speculate as well is anybody else. but none of us know. i do know that russia try to interfere in our election in 2016. they've only been doing it for 50 years and other countries probably didn't and are trying to do it right now for the midterms. that's number one. number two. i don't think that mr. mueller should be fired. think we ought to let him finish his investigation. i wish he would hurry. he needs to get to the bottom of this, but do it quickly. number three, i want him to report to the american people, give them the facts.
the american people are smart enough to figure it out and then let's get back to the business of trying to fix this country. >> chris: senator kennedy, thank you. thanks for your time and of course we will follow this week's vote by the judiciary committee. thank you, sir. >> senator kennedy: thank you, chris. >> chris: up next, the face-off between secretary of state pompeo and his predecessor john kerry over the iran nuclear deal. ♪ making my own beer. with what's available online, we were able to learn how to make the beer, craft a business plan, and do all the other things we needed to do to help people find us. it's a lot of hard work but being a part of the community here using our beer as a platform to give back, it makes it all worthwhile.
news his democratic counterpart dianne feinstein referred a letter to the fbi alleging sexual misconduct by supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh when he was in high school and we are back now with the panel. karl, what to think of this latest allegation against judge kavanaugh about something he did -- allegedly did when he was a teenager, and generally how do you think democrats handle the confirmation hearing? >> this has gone from bad to worse. senator spartacus embarrassed himself. kamala harris mistook the hearing for an addition for a minor prosecutor part in law and order. now we have a letter from dianne feinstein, who has had this since july. if anonymous from somebody who doesn't want the issue pressed doesn't want her name exposed and suddenly we are supposed to take this as a reason to either delay the process or worse yet, to take one of the most distinguished persons ever nominated for the supreme court and deny him a seat.
and i think this is shameful, it's a sign of the depths to which our congress has fallen in this all started with a great man doing a bad thing by borking robert bork. 75% voted for stephen breyer. half the democrats voted for roberts. 10% of them voted for alito. that i would be shocked if more than one or two or three democrats voted for brett kavanaugh. >> chris: julie, do officials at the white house think that this allegation about something that happened decades ago, literally, could derail his confirmation? how confident are they even at this point that judge kavanaugh will be just as kavanaugh when the supreme court starts its new session in october? >> one of the things that give them confidence towards the end of last week was that you didn't see a lot of democrats really
jumping on this. democrats have been looking for some way to slow it will 's load nomination. it felt like it could actually have an effect at holding office confirmation that you would see harris and booker and some of these other democrats really piling on and that hasn't happened. to your point earlier >> chris: we asked ten members on the committee and we assumed that one of them would want to come on. >> and it's striking. if you're a democrat, you do feel like something that could slow down the nomination, he would expected to be out here. i think republicans are still a little bit worried about the two swing republicans who haven't said either way whether going to do. a lot of attention will be on them early this week but i think at this point the white house is fairly confident this will move forward. >> chris: collins spoke to kavanaugh on the phone for an hour on friday so whatever she's going to do she had a full time to ask him about it. let's turn to another interesting story this week. turns out the former secretary
of state john kerry has been talking -- this is file tape that has been privately talking with iranian foreign minister several times since leaving office and he acknowledges that they discussed the iran nuclear deal, a deal of course that president trump pulled out of. the spark the current secretary of state, the successor to john kerry, mike pompeo, to blast john kerry this week. take a look. >> i think everybody in the world is sitting around talking about waiting out president trump. >> actively undermining u.s. policy is a former secretary of state is literally unheard of. >> chris: congresswoman, did john kerry do anything wrong? >> i don't think so. the logan act has to do with directly negotiating with a foreign power when you're not an employee or authorized by the united states to do so. he wasn't negotiating, he was taking meetings. my understanding is that he informed our government, i'm not
sure where, that he was taking a meeting and he gave them the summary of what happened at the meeting. i think he has a right is a private citizen to meet with whoever he wants to, but i don't think -- i understand why mike pompeo is upset, because this is a tricky moment for the administration and i personally think they wrongly pulled out of the deal, but i don't think that carrie crossed out redline in anyway. i want to say one thing about that letter if i could. the kavanaugh letter. that is it is unsubstantiated. and i think feinstein delay doing anything because the woman didn't want to come forward. on the other hand, if that did happen, if there's any proof that the activities alleged happened think that my reflect on kavanaugh's character and all i would recommend is the committee meet again now that all members have a redacted version of the letter. in private session. they are not voting until thursday.
they could meet tomorrow and then decide whether there ought to be an additional public session so that the rest of us can catch up on where they are. i think there should have been part of the formal hearing and i'm sorry it wasn't. >> chris: let me just say on that, it would only got a couple of minutes left, she had plenty of opportunity. she had the letter since july. she met for an hour alone with kavanaugh. she was there in a hearing, she didn't attend apparently the private hearing. she had plenty of opportunity to bring this up. do you think there's anything wrong -- this is a delicate moment. the president has pulled out. our european allies may want to continue to do business and here you have john kerry, one of the architects of the deal talking to foreign ministers. >> i understand former officials whether it be members of congress or administration meet with other government officials on a regular basis. where it crosses the line, where do think secretary kerry should be interviewed by the department of justice, is was he actively
trying to subvert the trump administration? a very serious charge by the current secretary of state mike pompeo, but i do think it is worthy based on carrie's comments and his actions, plus what he's done in the past that somebody from the department of justice should investigate this. i think you cross a line when you're actively trying trying to subvert the current administration. >> chris: when you say you are actively -- you don't know. >> on them suggesting is is worthy of an investigation by the department of justice to sit down and do that interview and look at the facts and find out if he did potentially violate that act. >> chris: less than a minute left, where do you come down on this? >> it's important that previous administration officials have the freedom to talk to foreign leaders and share those insights with the current administration, it's valuable. but we don't know is what did he say? was he listening? was he discussing or was he advocating? and his body language in his television appearance leads me to believe you were maybe
advocating. if i don't think it's worthy of a justice department investigation. the logan act affect two unsuccessful prosecutions in its entire history and whenever it was passed, 1803. if that's wrong. but if trying kerry walked into that meeting is at my advice to you as a former secretary of state of the united states of america's weight this current administration out, that was wrong and unhelpful to our country. >> chris: were going to have to leave it there. see you all next sunday. up next, some very special power players of the week. three of america's bravest that went above and beyond the call of duty. you need to buy a car
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♪ >> chris: this week i had a once-in-a-lifetime unforgettable opportunity to sit down with some of america's bravest at the congressional medal of honor society's annual convention. i moderated a town hall for the more than 4,000 midshipmen at the u.s. naval academy in annapolis, a sea of white, where i got to speak with three of the
nation's 72 living medal of honor recipients, the nation's highest military honor. woody williams, the only living marine from world war ii to receive the medal of honor. at the battle of iwo jima he took out a network of japanese pillboxes to clear the way for the infantry. >> the most effective weapon that we had against the pillboxes because they were reinforced concrete. >> chris: kyle carpenter, who took the blast from a grenade in afghanistan to shield a fellow marine. >> i came to terms with reality that this was it and i was bleeding out and this is the last few seconds i would have. >> chris: edward byers, the most decorated living navy seal. he jumped on top of an american doctor taken hostage by the taliban to protect him from a firefight. >> the doctor finally said i'm
over here, i'm over here and in that time i was adjusting my night vision to get some facial recognition on the person that i was on top of. >> chris: speaking to the brigade of midshipmen, i asked how the training prepare them for the heat of battle. >> it taught me what i knew. i'm a farmboy. >> there are so many unknowns that go into a hostage scenario and it takes a lot of highly confident people and a lot of support personnel behind them to give them the tools they need to be able to execute a mission like that. >> chris: do you feel any sense of fear in that moment? >> i always said if you're being shot at you have no fear, there's something wrong with yo you. you don't think that way. you think achievement. we were going to accomplish this thing, it makes no difference what it takes to do it. >> i truly feel like whatever the situation was or who was in
my position, they would have done the same thing. >> chris: i think i know the answer to this question, do you think your hero? >> absolutely not. i'm just doing a job that the marine corps taught me to do. and that was my duty. i was doing it for my country, my fellow marines and to win award. just imagine if we lost. >> chris: what advice would you give to these young men and women? >> post 9/11 willingly signed up to support and defend the constitution of our united states and that experience will transcend the rest of your life. >> who could have gone to any other big school. who could have gone to the parties right. could have done anything else
and you chose to come here. >> less than one-tenth of 1% of our people serve in the military. so everyone of you have something in you that the average person doesn't have. every one of you at some point in time in life, if you haven't already, you will realize that i'm doing one of the most noble things that a human being can do, and that's to serve somebody else. >> chris: what a special evening that was. in case you're wondering, woody williams, veteran of the battle of iwo jima, turns 95 next month. that's it for today. have a great week and will see you next "fox news sunday" ." ♪ (soft music)
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