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amy: climate a protest, climate of fear, climate change. >> we cannot wait one year, two years, five years. this issue of climate change is a life-and-death issue. >> if we don't sort out climate change, our coastal communities are going to be underwater. at the table,ot you're at the menu. we want to be at the table. >> the agreement is one that will see the planet -- amy: it's the first day of the u.n. climate summit in paris. on sunday, nearly 10,000 people formed a human chain, thousands defied a protest ban and are -- were tear gassed by police, 200 people were arrested. inside the summit, over 100 heads of state are gathering for the first day of cop 21. we'll hear the voices from the streets, french farmer josé
bové, indigenous leader tom goldtooth and his son dallas of the 1491s, and we'll speak with author and journalist naomi klein. all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we are broadcasting from paris, france, at the u.n. climate summit. more than half a million people took part in rallies around the world ahead of today's opening of the 21st united nations climate change summit here in paris. world leaders have arrived for two weeks of negotiations aimed at reaching an accord on global warming. in london, the musician and artist peter gabriel said -- and citizens around the world are calling out for a binding and just agreement. >> the politicians are becoming
aware a lot of the people of the planet a really worried about this issue and really feel it is a serious threat. hopefully, they will respond. i think that is part of the aim of this march and these marches going on all over the world. amy: a major rally was canceled here after authorities banned public protests in the aftermath of the paris terror attacks but , tens of thousands of people formed a human chain stretching down the sidewalk for blocks. after the human chain action ended, thousands of parisians and international activists defied the french ban on protests and tried to march through the downtown streets. they were met by hundreds of riot police, who used tear gas, sound bombs, and pepper spray. more than 200 protesters were arrested. we'll have more from the paris climate summit after headlines. friday's deadly mass shooting at a planned parenthood clinic in colorado has sparked new calls
for calling and such was extremism terrorism and confronting the nation's lax gun laws. three people were killed and nine injured when a gunman identified as robert lewis dear opened fire at the colorado springs facility. dear was taken into custody after a multi-hour gunfight with police. while investigators claim his motive remains unknown, he reportedly invoked an anti-abortion talking point saying, "no more baby parts." republicans have falsely accused planned parenthood of selling organs from aborted fetuses for profit, basing their claims on doctored videos. since july, when the anti-choice center for medical progress began releasing the heavily edited videos, at least five other planned parenthood locations have been attacked by vandals. in the wake of the shooting, planned parenthood rocky mountains ceo vicki cowart said in a statement -- "we share the concerns of many americans that extremists are
creating a poisonous environment that feeds domestic terrorism in this country." at a vigil on saturday, cowart said planned parenthood will not be intimated into abandoning its work for women's health. was at happened yesterday terrible crime resulting in a terrible tragedy, and we will never forget it that we will adapt, we will square our shoulders, we will go on. we will show up for work on monday and we will begin again, and we invite all of you to be with us more resolved than ever the providing health care and education for the people of our community is the right thing to do. amy: the three slain victims were officer garrett swasey, a father of two, ke'arre stewart, a father of two and iraq war that -- vet and jennifer , markovsky, a mother of two who was at the clinic in support of
a friend. all of the nine injured victims are said to be in good condition and expected to recover. one survivor, ozy licano, described the shooting. >> i felt stuffed hit me. i felt pain here and here. i thought my jugular vein or a was bleeding internally, instead of trying to do something to him, i just needed to get out of there. everywhere. i got out of the car and yelled for help. told them to call 911. a lady responded immediately. their something bad going on over there at planned parenthood. amy: the national abortion federation says attacks linked to anti-abortion extremism have killed at least eight people since 1993. the colorado springs shooting comes as far-right republicans seek a government shutdown unless a new budget deal defunds planned parenthood.
it also comes amid continued congressional inaction on gun control despite repeated mass shootings. in a statement, president obama said -- "we have to do something about the easy accessibility of weapons of war on our streets to people who have no business wielding them. period. enough is enough." on sunday, colorado governor john hickenlooper joined with voices calling the clinic shooting an act of terrorism. this comes as a new study finds white americans are the biggest terror threat in the united states. the new america foundation says that of 26 acts of terrorism in the united states since 9/11, most were carried out by whites. the list does not include several mass shootings carried out by whites, including sandy hook or the aurora movie theater because they lacked political motivation. a russian airstrike in syria has reportedly killed dozens of people. activists say at least 44 people died when russian bombs hit a
crowded marketplace in the province of idlib. russia has claimed it is targeting the islamic state, but idlib is not under the group's control. the british parliament is expected to vote this week on joining the u.s.-led bombing campaign against the islamic state in iraq and syria. ahead of the vote, thousands rallied across britain on saturday against the plan. >> very much opposed to david cameron's plan to have a vote in parliament to bomb syria. the bombing has a ready been going on for more than a year by other forces. the united states and russia. so there is no case where it is solving the problem. amy: thousands of people gathered in turkey on sunday for the funeral of tahir elci, a leading kurdish lawyer and human rights activist. elci was gunned down on saturday in the southeastern city of diyarbakir.
he had been awaiting trial for public comments in which he said the kurdistan workers party is not a terrorist group. hundreds of people have died since a ceasefire between the pkk and the turkish government broke down in july. elci's killing came one day after thousands rallied in istanbul against the government's arrest of two prominent journalists. the pair are accused of espionage after publishing a report claiming turkish intelligence sent weapons to militant extremists inside syria. turkey and the european union have reached an agreement on limiting the flow of refugees trying to reach europe. turkey will receive over $3.2 billion and closer eu ties in return for efforts to stop migrants from leaving its shores. the national security agency has formally ended the bulk collection of phone records more than two years after edward snowden exposed it. the nsa says that as of midnight sunday, the mass surveillance of metadata is no longer in place.
the nsa will instead ask companies for a specific user's data rather than vacuuming up all the records at once. protests continue in chicago over the fatal shooting of 17-year-old african american teen laquan mcdonald. officer jason van dyke was indicted for murder last week just as police finally released video footage of him shooting mcdonald 16 times more than a year ago. police had claimed laquan mcdonald lunged at van dyke with a small knife, but the video shows him posing no threat and running many feet away. protests have been held daily since the video was released. in a black friday action targeting a busy shopping district, the reverend jesse jackson joined demonstrators calling for the resignation of chicago's police superintendent and a top prosecutor. -- callingepartments
on the special prosecutor [indiscernible] boycotts and more protests. amy: jay darshane, the manager of a burger king that may have captured surveillance video of the shooting, says he's testified before a grand jury about police potentially deleting the footage. 86 minutes of the surveillance video was erased, including the portion capturing the time of the shooting. police came into his burger king late the night of the shooting, and state, he said, for about three hours. it was the next day they discover that the video in that time period had been deleted. a group of american activists have traveled to cuba to stage a symbolic fast in solidarity with the prisoners at guantanamo bay. the group witness against torture set up camp near the guantanamo prison on wednesday. on thanksgiving day, they sat
around an empty table, going without food to show support for the 107 people who remain behind bars. nearly half have been cleared for release. the activists also called on the obama administration to deliver on its promise to finally close the prison. and finally, robert hinton, a new york city man who recently won a settlement for his abuse at rikers island jail, has been shot dead. hinton was awarded a near-half a million dollars for a beating by rikers corrections officers in 2012. he was imprisoned in the solitary confinement unit for men with mental illness when the officers hogtied and attacked him, leaving him with a broken nose, a fractured vertebra and a bleeding mouth. his case led to the firing of a captain and five officers involved. on friday, hinton was shot dead outside of a brooklyn housing project. his attorney says he had been planning to buy a new home, and
had recently sent a text message saying, "i pray i even live long enough to see some sort of happiness." and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we are broadcasting live from paris, france, on the opening day of the 21st united nations climate change summit. president obama, chinese president xi jinping, indian prime minister narendra modi, german chancellor angela merkel and more than 100 other heads of , state from around the world have arrived to open the two-weeks of negotiations aimed at reaching an accord to avert the most devastating impacts of global warming. the opening of the conference comes as the national oceanic and atmospheric administration projects that 2015 will be the hottest global year on record. president obama addressed the conference just before this broadcast. >> i have come here personally
as leader of the world's largest economy and the second-largest the unitedsay that states of america not only recognizes our role in creating , we embrace our responsibility to do something about it. amy: the historic climate summit begins two weeks after the november 13 attacks in paris, which killed 130 people. the self-proclaimed islamic state claimed responsibility. france remains under a three-month state of emergency, which has given the police unprecedented powers to conduct thousands of house searches and raids they say are aimed at stopping terrorism. but activists say the police have conducted indiscriminate raids in muslim communities. environmental activists have also had their homes raided. at least 24 climate activists have been placed under house arrest. all major protests in paris have been banned. up to 200,000 people were
expected to march in paris on but authorities prohibited sunday, the from taking place. march but around the world, more than half a million people took to the streets in a global day of action calling for climate justice, including in bogota, colombia, sydney, australia, athens, greece, mexico city, along the equator in kenya and even on a glacier in southern chile. in london, where 50,000 people rallied, opposition leader jeremy corbyn of the labour party spoke about the connection between world conflicts and the increasing scarcity of resources due to climate change. crooks >> it is about the resources we use. there some aspects in the concert around the world [indiscernible]
i think the attendance here today on a wet november morning is brilliant. amy: in brazil, protesters covered themselves with mud and laid on the ground to symbolize the river doce, which was recently flooded by toxic chemicals when a dam burst at a massive iron mine, killing more than a dozen people and contaminating the river with mercury. >> what happened was an environmental crime, like so many others, which the government and world leaders perpetuate. i want them to hear us, the buried ones, that we will not put up with anymore. in manila in the philippines protesters called , attention to the devastating impact drastic sea level rise would have in the philippines. >> internationally, the philippines has always
consistently at the top of climate risk, and that makes as vulnerable to the impacts of climate change. we are already experiencing it at the present and we know that is the reason why we are marching here today, to demand for climate justice. amy: back in paris, france, activists installed thousands of pairs of shoes in front of the place de la république in downtown paris, only blocks from where the november13 shooting at the bataclan occurred to symbolize the desire to march. yannick, a french citizen who donated her shoes to the installation, said she felt it was important the protesters' presence was felt. >> i find it very moving. it is a very strong message as we do not have the right to take part in the large march which was organized, it was important our presence was felt. all of these shoes represent all
of the people who are committed to do something for climate change, to do something this week when there will be a lot of debate. amy: in downtown paris, tens of thousands of people also formed a human chain stretching down the sidewalk for blocks. demonstrator romain porcheron said the chain represents solidarity. >> the idea is to show that all citizens of the world are aware in the comment of our mental and ecological objective is not individual, it is about solidarity and the sharing between populations, that we are all in the same boat. that is planet earth. if each one of us takes one step for to change little habits, which then evolves into systematic change, we will be able to solve the crisis of climate change which threatens the entire -- entirety of human entity. amy: indigenous people from the arctic to the amazon took part in the human chain in paris calling for urgent action on climate change and highlighting the disproportionate impact of
global warming on frontline communities. after the human chain action ended, thousands of parisians and international activists defied the french ban on protests and attempted to march through the streets of downtown paris. they were met by hundreds of riot police, who used tear gas, sound bombs pepper spray in an , effort to break up the demonstration in the place de la république. more than 200 protesters were arrested after the police with shields and riot gear stormed the monument à la république, which was covered with flowers and candles to commemorate the november 13 attacks. forcibly removing protesters who linked arms around the statue to protect it. democracy now! was live on the scene interviewing people throughout the protests. >> i am here because [indiscernible]
they would rather shoot as they listen to us. >> we're here at place de la république were demonstrators in the hundreds, hard to say how many, have gathered. the police response has been teargas and these sound bomb canisters that their dispersing into the crowd. >> i am from oakland. i'm here because it is supposed to be the most important negotiation -- climate negotiation of all time. is constantly talked about. if a negotiation was a binding, that we would see drastic effects of climate change that would be a reversible. the climateting at demonstrations. so now we gather to focus on the emergency, plus climate change.
we're just right in front of the statue. the statue is important for us. more important today. we want to protect it. i'm not much into demonstration, but this time understood the french government needs to know. they began attacking the left activists. it is incredible that so many people in france don't understand what is happening. everything that is going to switch from fighting terrorism to fight against -- >> the french satan europeans say in the north american say -- >> what is your message on
climate change? >> the answer resides in everybody, and our lifestyles, and the way we live. we have to change the way we live. we have to stop commercial relationships with some countries. we have to stop our consumption of oil and nuclear, and that ofs with the change lifestyle. >> the only problem with security is that policemen are attacking us. there are no terrorists. they are the terrorists. >> what i'm doing here is clear. i protest against the emergency ofte, which is a parody
protection for citizens and transformed into repression against the citizens. >> they have locked up every entrance around place de la république and won't let us go anywhere. >> several friends have been arrested. >> i live in paris. in events like cop, because their partners like the u.s., [indiscernible] which are known polluters. [indiscernible] i have a panel. here in paris, we don't have the right to demonstrate. still we are here. we make some noise. >> the government shouldn't be
using fear to stop us from protesting what we believe in. for1 has been scheduled very long time, even before the attacks they decided to increase security at the borders. this is not about terrorism. i'm here to fight the use of fear. amy: more than 200 people were arrested. president françois hollande condemned the clashes between protesters and police as "scandalous" and blamed the protesters for trampling on the monument. even though video footage shows the police smashing the glass candles and trampling on the flowers. activists said that actions and demonstrations would continue throughout the summit. a special thanks to sam and laura and john for that report. we're going to go to break. only come back, we will hear from indigenous activist tom goldtooth and his son dallas, 4091 -- 1491s,
amy: this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we are here for two weeks covering the u.n. climate summit in paris, france. shortly after arriving in paris after midnight, president obama laid a single rose at a memorial for the victims of the paris attacks visiting the bataclan, the concert hall where the deadliest attacks took place on november 13.
democracy now! visited the site on saturday night. we're at the site of the bataclan theater, where on more than 802015 people were killed as a concert was going on. in fact, their name is still on the marquee. thousands upon thousands of people have streamed by in the days since, ling down flowers, candles, putting up signs like paris." said "je suis bamako, we aream humanity." people like candles, they cry, they remember. can you tell us your name?
>> my feelings today, i'm very sad. days ago,sad because people were killed here, assassinated. i came here today to reflect and to say that not all muslims are like the ones who perpetrated the crimes that we see here today. today, we are all bataclan, we all the 100 victims. i needed to come here today to say that islam is not this that we see here. and when i left the metro station on behalf of jews, on behalf of catholics, on behalf of everyone, i cried because it is important on behalf of everyone [indiscernible] amy: as we leave the bataclan
theater, and has the train station, we see the place to be. our tour guide is frederick who is a journalist and researcher with radio france, which is public radio in france. welcome to democracy now! can you talk about this place to be? what is it? 600 -- an have amy: a hostlie. >> yes, 600 people can stay here, live here. not necessarily accepted by the official cop. yet 1, 2, 3 -- six cafés. roomsg rooms, production can meet and organize. it is a place for civil society.
where basically, people that are not the official ones can do their own cop21. amy: i see one of the meeting rooms, a long time indigenous leader from the united states, tom goldtooth. his son dallas goldtooth and many others, familiar faces at the cops as it goes from one generation to the other. let's go inside. there was supposed to be a massive march on sunday. it was canceled because of the paris attacks. tom goldtooth, your thoughts? >> definitely, as people of our big delegation here from indigenous environment will cja, client justice alliance am a global justice, you know, we stand in solidarity with the people starting the route from me here -- we met a lot of people here. some people got hurt here, too, so we come here with prayer.
the action is not surprising to me because i have been one of those fighters for social justice and environmental justice, but the reaction and how they're treating local communities here, that there really targeting certain communities that are -- considered left side. i think that is wrong. and the other issue here is just of civil society. i mean, part of democracy is that the people who are disenfranchised, the people on the front lines of these struggles of climate justice, food sovereignty and all of the related issues, you know, why are they being called out here? why is that a voice being shut down? thisdallas, you grew up in movement. how does climate change affect you, your community? >> most folks think are here just to talk about climate and it is greater than that. we're talking about climate
justice. and that is all-encompassing. if you look at the scenario we're facing right now in paris, i mean, you have heightened police state, and reasonable urography, limited resources. this is our element as frontline communities. this is the world we exist in. we are rising to the challenge to speak up and not only talk about what we are fighting against, but what we fighting for and that is just transition towards a new, renewable society. a lot of indigenous communities are having series conversation of how we can build sustainable sovereign nations and also have a conversation about what is -- localized food production look like, to self determine our future as native people? amy: that is dallas goldtooth of the 1491s and his father, tom goldtooth, executive director of indigenous environmental network, based in minnesota on turtle island, also known as the -- north america. tom goldtooth recently won the gandhi peace award. in a press statement issued by
the indigenous environmental network today, tom goldtooth said -- "we are here in paris to tell the world that not only will the anticipated paris accord not address climate change, it will make it worse because it will promote false solutions and not keep fossil fuels from being extracted and burned. the paris cop21 is not about reaching a legally binding agreement on cutting greenhouse gases. in fact, the paris accord may turn out to be a crime against humanity and mother earth." this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we are broadcasting from paris, france, from inside the u.n. climate summit. among those who took to the streets of paris in peaceful protest sunday was the french farmer, activist and politician , josé bove, one of the world's leading critics of corporate globalization and genetically modified organisms. bové is a sheep farmer who
became famous for helping to destroy a mcdonald's under construction in france to protest trade policies that hurt small farmers. in 2009, he was elected to the european parliament. i caught up with him in the streets of paris. >> my name is josé bove. i am a european deputy. amy: what are your thoughts on and what is coming out of this climate summit in paris? >> i'm not sure this summit is going to reach what we need because all of the governments, they want to stay in their own way to go. and the big companies are there .lso, supporting this summit and they don't want to change anything. that is why for the moment, for example i'm here with the indians from ecuador, which are fighting against all of the big companies.
companies,ent, the they don't to change anything. we know, clearly, if we don't keep the oil inside of the earth and we still use it, we're not going to be able to change. that is why we say, clearly, it is not the climate we have to change, it is the system. amy: you are a frenchman. the major climate march was canceled after the terror attacks of november 13. do you think the environment will activist should have marched anyway? wei think the alternative built with this human chain was a good thing to say, it is not because the demonstration was stopped, was for bid and that we're not going to do something. so this is the beginning. we're doing this for two weeks. many demonstrations are going to be going on. not maybe big ones, but we don't know because we have a big problem with the french government at this moment
it has since now a few days, they have arrested several people from the movements, the movements which are fighting against climate change that have been arrested. people have had their houses opened by police. in some of them now are not allowed to go into the streets. they are imprisoned in their own homes. this is a scandal because they use the laws which have included against the terrorists to fight now against the social movement. this is not acceptable. so that is why we also are here to say, this has to change. we're not going to accept this. and if we have to go in the streets, if we have to make some demonstrations, we will do it even if it is for bid in. amy: france's policies around climate change? >> we have a big problem in europe. europe is not at the level it should be.
we should now be in a different time. unfortunately, we have also big companies. and the governments are now behind these companies. companies andlear industrial agriculture, which is pushing very strong in france and other european -- even of the european union says we have to get lower using of carbon, in fact, this is still not enough. we know it. this is just the minimum of the minimum. it is not going to stop, unfortunately, the climate problem. amy: you became the poster boy of anticorporate activism in 1999 at the wto protests in seattle. explain what you did here in the south of france. >> well, it is very simple.
in 1999, it was the beginning of the debbie t o --wto. -- pe refused amy: beef treated by hormones. >> yes. we had a big fight because it is dangerous. we blocked this beef coming inside. wto gave to the united states the capacity to put junctions against 60 european products. and that in compensation, -- that is why one of these ok, we're- we said, not allowed to serve because we , yourto have beef treated
junk food is also not allowed to come in. that is why mcdonald's, they were building it in france at that moment. and that was a very big mess. amy: so you dismantled the golden arches. and where did you put them? >> not only that, all of the -- >> the building. amy: and where did you put it? >> the administration house. we said, now you keep all of this stuff here. and when they stop with the fact they want to bring beef treated with hormones, we can give them back. amy: what happened to you for doing this? >> i was in jail. i was arrested in i was in jail and a was sentenced for several months in jail. seattle and we made a ofy huge demonstration, lots demonstrations. amy: outside the mcdonald's there. >> just in front of the
mcdonald's. we distributed more than 500 q of roquefort cheese. it was a big joke. it was a funny thing. and the wife of prince on holland was with us. it was very funny. unfortunately since that moment, since 2006, i'm not allowed to go back to the united states. amy: you are banned? >> i am. i came back in 2004 -- i was allowed to go. in 2006, the bush and administration said, no, this guys not allowed to come back anymore. the problem is, you have the treaty with canada and mexico. that means also -- amy: nafta. >> yes. allowedays, you're not
and canada, the same. the fact that canada says, you are not allowed to come in, australia, new zealand said the same. so now i'm for bid and from a lot of countries because the american administration told me in 2006 that i had been to be terry. moral i said, what is that? on the green card when you go in the united states, it is a keyword. i said, what is that? they said, you attacked the economic interest of the companies. the obama administration did not change anything. so even now, i'm a european deputy and i'm still not allowed to go inside the united states. at the moment we're discussing this big stupid treaty between the united states and europe. this is quite incredible. french farmer,
activist, and european parliament member josé bove. he is one of the leading critics. inattended the wto protests 1999. today is the 16th anniversary of the battle of seattle. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and he's report. when we come back, naomi klein joins us live here at the u.n. climate summit here in paris, france. stay with us. ♪ [music break]
amy: "roulez tambours," by edith piaf. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we are broadcasting from paris at the 21st u.n. climate change summit. ahead of the summit more than , 170 nations submitted plans to cut greenhouse gas emissions. but experts say the proposed targets end up falling far short of what is needed to mitigate against drastic heating of the planet, and that the agreements during the negotiations are not likely to be binding.
the intergovernmental panel on climate change says that if temperatures rise more than 2 degrees celsius above preindustrial levels, it could lead to catastrophic and irreversible impacts. if the world remains at the current levels of fossil fuel consumption and emissions, we are on track for a rise of nearly 5 degrees. scientists say this could lead to a collapse of the greenland ice sheet, raising sea levels more than 20 feet, submerging island nations and coastal cities, including new york, shanghai, and london underwater. on sunday former bolivia climate -- threatening their land, food supply access to water. , on sunday, we spoke with activists. climate change is happening. we cannot wait one year or two years, five years.
>> this issue of climate change is a life-and-death issue. >> if we don't sort out climate change, our coastal communities and our island communities are going to be underwater. amy: if you're not at the table, you are on the menu. we want to be at the table. >> we need to have a binding agreement coming out of this thing. temperature to be less than two degrees gaza 1.5 to stay alive. our nations, governments are on the side of the indigenous people, a lot of synergy in terms of what we want. basically, if we don't sort out climate change, our coastal communities and our island communities are going to be underwater. amy: well, for more we're joined by bestselling author naomi klein. she's the author of, "this changes everything: capitalism
versus the climate." naomi, welcome back to democracy now! paris: naomi klein among our actions, the first time you are arrested was protesting the keystone xl. now we're here in paris and this is the first day of the climate summit. yesterday, major actions on the street, although, protest were banned. can you talk about the banning of protests and what it means? >> i think yesterday was a really important show of defines against that ban on protests and marches, which i think we have to remember, is quite extraordinary for north americans, there are strong residences in which the way the french government has behaved. we have seen a discourse that is reminiscent of september 11 under george w. bush, but one thing that is worth remembering, amy, even george w. bush and dick cheney did not been marches and protests after september 11. that is what france for holiday
has done. people took to the streets and said, no, the human chain, which i thought that was a very moving demonstration that thousands of people participated in and it clearly went to demonstration people did not know how this state would respond and they did it anyway. incredibly high. here we are in this conference center, and this is a summit that is sponsored by all kinds of polluters. there's a big pollution -- pavilion, section of the summit which is put on by energy companies, private water companies, agribusiness companies. they are saying, we have the solution. the solution is private water, genetically modified seeds, is new good power. we are here in france, which is a huge nuclear power powered country. what was planned for the streets was not just opposition and a demand for action, but also a celebration of people's
alternatives, of climate justice, and showing what that looks like in real terms. there are people who have come to paris to demonstrate what it is they are doing and their communities, community controlled renewable energy as well as farming methods. isconcern is that as protest suppressed, the corporate solutions that are being elevated within the conference center become more powerful. so there is a real tension about, what do we mean by climate action and who's going to define that? amy: your thoughts about the place de la république, which has become rolled famous as a symbol around the world with people putting flowers and candles, paying respects to those who died november13. what happened yesterday? memorial.seen the i wasn't there. you guys were there, democracy now! was there. i was in the human chain and we were doing some filming there,
but i was relying on media reports to understand what happened in the place de la république. i must say, it is incredibly important what you just reported, that it was police who disturbed that memorial. because the way it is being reported and a lot of what i saw was that the were blaming it on climate protesters will step in fact, there were the ones who were protecting it. i don't know exactly what happened, but you have some very, very important footage to set the record straight on that crucial point. the other thing i think it's important to understand about why protests are under -- are important, you mention i was one of the more than 1200 people who were arrested in an act of civil disobedience to oppose the keystone xl pipeline. obama gave a speech just now to the summit in which he talks about how he had canceled big projects that would have extracted some of the dirtiest fossil fuels, a clear reference
to keystone. but let's remember, he did that under enormous pressure, amy. it took him four years to reject that pipeline, and he did so because of the incredible organization of the climate justice movement led by indigenous movements, picked up by groups like golden nebraska and 350 and so many other groups. so to the extent to which we have some kind of action hear from leaders, and it is not nearly enough, it is because they're under pressure from their populations. that is true for obama and also true for countries like china who are under pressure because of air pollution. so they are coming here because their people have mobilized, and yet we're meeting under state of emergency and climate protesters are being told to just be quiet. ,my: not only about protests the different events, the side events that take place. not everyone can come into this highly guarded site.
this is an old airport where charles lindbergh landed his plane after doing his transatlantic flight. but to say the least, it is extremely well guarded, keeping a lot of people out. so what are they doing outside? >> they're all kinds of events. i mean, and a lot of them are going on so there is going to be -- one configuration is the celebration of community controlled solutions weather agriculture energy, there are concerts going on. there is a big development --divestment even going on. we're organizing the leap manifesto that we were a part of in canada and talking about this as a model to bring together the austerity movement, the refugee rights movement, the climate movement, the anti-police violence movement.
this is a moment where there's a huge amount of mobilization around the world and also in europe, but it is still very much compartmentalized in what we sometimes call silos. a lot of what is going to be know, if is, you people coming out of their silos and strategizing, but happening under the situation where we don't exactly know what is going to attract repression and what isn't. amy: talk about what is at stake in these talks. >> everything is at stake. we hear this from the leaders themselves. one of the key themes from the protest yesterday was that we are in a state of emergency. the french government has declared a state of emergency after those horrific attacks of november13. but that is not the only emergency. security isn't the only emergency. there's also a connection. john kerry has talked exclusively several times about how climate change was one of the key drivers of the outbreak
of civil war in syria. we know that climate change is already feeling conflict. we know it is already feeling mass migration. it was interesting because hollande talked about we're not choosing between fighting and climate change, we are doing both. we have to expand our definition of security to put climate action at the very center of that because there is no possibility for human security in a world that is headed toward three degrees celsius warming, and that is with these governments are bringing to the table. analyst, talking about how we should really be thinking about this summit as the most critical piece convention in the world. our only hope for peace, really, is a truly ambitious and binding climate agreement. amy: how can this be achieved? you have all sorts of people,
voices in today's broadcast, people we have spoken to like pablo salon, the former, negotiator for bolivia and abbasid or to the u.s. saying this treaty will burn the earth. yep time goldtooth leading indigenous activists saying what may come out of paris is a crime against humanity. >> even the two degree target, which they are blowing through, when they announced that target in copenhagen, and amy, you were there, the delegates from african nations marched through the hallways of that convention center and said it was a death sentence for africa. pacific island nations chanted 1.5 to survive. i think one thing i was positive in the opening statements today is that hollande and ban ki-moon talked about 1.5. they said the words. they did not say we are committed to 1.5, but they acknowledged it is a reality. the stakes could not be higher. this is violent.
such ann in the face of axis digital threat. and at a moment when engineers like mark dickerson at stanford university are saying, actually, with existing technologies, we could get from 100% renewable economies within three decades, we could have entirely clean economies by midcentury and yet our governments are talking about waiting till the end of the century. that is a decision that is being made and it is a decision that will lead to the disappearance of an entire nation come -- amy: explained, naomi klein, how this two-week summit works. how does differ from past once and why president obama, the president china, all of the world leaders are here from the first two days rather than in copenhagen at the end. how much is already set in stone? >> there are some big questions. the question of financing. all leaders pay lip service to
it. they also the right things. we have to provide financing for the impacts of climate change and also for poorer countries to leapfrog over fossil fuels anger directed to renewables. at this point, the real issue is, how much money? is the money going to be real? that is yet to be decided. that is something people are going to be fighting very strongly over. also fighting over the issue of 1.5 versus two degrees. in the other issue is enforceability, whether these commitments are binding. and there is going to be all kinds of complicated word play around how we define binding, enforceable, what does this mean? u.s. has made it clear cannot be a binding treaty because the map to bring it to the u.s. senate and they cannot do that. so now they're saying, what will be binding as you have to come back to the table, but what does binding mean if there are no
penalties? these are the things that are going to be wrangled over in the coming days. but one thing i would say is that it is true that countries are coming to the table with more than they came to an copenhagen. and that is because of the pressure they have been under. movements are going to keep pressuring their governments so that the next time they gather, they will bring more to the table. i'm on the board of 350.org, and we have never -- a lot of groups were talking about the road to paris. no is make sure we talk about the road through paris. every thing does not end at the end of the summit. what we do know is that governments come to the table at summits like this with what they consider to be politically possible. what social movements do is they exist to change what is politically possible. we moved the bar. so the next time they come to the table, what is politically possible is aligned with what is physically necessary. because right now, what is considered politically possible
is deeply out of alignment with what is physically necessary. amy: and naomi klein, thank you for joining us. stay to for part two of this conversation at democracynow.org . naomi klein is the best selling author, activist. her most recent book is, "this changes everything: capitalism vs. the climate." she is hosting a workshop on wednesday here in paris called, "the leap manifesto: a justice-based energy transition." she has made a remarkable some called "this changes everything" that is traveling the planet. you can follow democracy now! on facebook, twitter, instagram for all of the events here at the u.n. climate summit in tune in for the next two weeks as we broadcast live from inside and outside the climate summit. democracy now! is looking for feedback from people who appreciate the closed captioning. e-mail your comments to firstname.lastname@example.org or mail them to democracy now! p.o. box 693 new york, new york 10013. [captioning made possible by democracy now!]