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>> welcome to "quadriga." our topic today -- the latest turn in an election that never ceases to surprise. a week after the release of an 11-year-old tape in which donald trump bragged about sexual assault on women, the republican party is in disarray with leading republicans announcing they will no longer support candidate. numbers appear to be in freefall just a few weeks after he seemed to be closing in on hillary clinton. is notnsists he
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quitting. sex, lies, and videotape. is strong finished -- is trump finished? that's our question today. it's a pleasure to welcome the berlin bureau chief of "the new york times," and she says she never believed donald trump would win but in this race, a lot of things have an unexpected and that's why she's careful with predictions. we welcome the business editor of "the berlin daily," who 's problem is not his sexism. it's that he talks about sex. an anglo to have german author and regular commentator for a berlin-based newspaper back on the show. trump might even gain from the episode. polls are indeed taking a dramatic turn downward for mr.
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trump. the factct is that there is alws a very dynamic phase in this final stage of the race as undecided voters finally begin to make up their mind. how much of a role is this whole .ex tape really playing >> as i believe andy rosenthal wrote yesterday on the day before, this showed us a donald trump who we basically knew was , very clearly showing us mode. trump in that now other women have come forward to "the new york times" and assure they will come forward to other media, too, saying they can name other incidents where he behaved inappropriately. as with the entire phenomenon, to suddenly say, "oh, my gosh, we did not know that this was i think everybody sort
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of did know. if this affects the race, i'm not so sure. they're being constant surprises this year, not just in the united states, but think about brexit, for instance. what i think we can see is a the certainties we thought we had our kind of shifting before our eyes. everybody is adjdjusting to that shifting reality. there could be another big surprise before polling day, but right now, it would appear that donald trump has scant chance of winning. i still would not rule him out completely. my favorite example is think of a group of people who arrange on facebook or some other means of communication, "ok, we are for trump. let's each take 10 people with
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day."voting you can do that and it flies under the radar of any kind of traditional opinioion p polling. we know hillary clinton is very well organized by conventional measures, but precisely what has not really worked this year is convention. >> let's come back to the mechanics of the race and issues such as pulling. let me pick up on your remarks just foundimes" has to do women who confirmed it was not only locker room talk on the tape. withaid you would agree donald trump that he simply said what bill clinton did, but apparently according to these claims now published by "the times," this was not just talk. one woman has a very clear account of him physically groping her on a plane. deeds behinde were
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these words. >> it is difficult is the only men in the room to sort of say what i am saying. any man who is honest with tell you it is true what donald trump says. men -- not every group of men, not every time, but men talk like that. the second thing is trump groups women because he thinks they want that. he is an oath and if you'll -- a clinton usedl state troopers to procure his women. he slept with an intern at the white house, and hillary's reaction was to say he had a , bimbo -- that's her word -- meaning the women he slept with. this is also horrible. i'm just saying it's not a republican problem. it's not even a specific trump problem.
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it is a mail problem and a problem for females, women, who cover for ththis kind of man.. trump says he is unshackled now because the republican party is disowning him. i wonder what he will dig up on hillary and bill, and it will not be nice. >> as tempting as it is now to open up discussion on bill clinton, i'm going to leave that aside because otherwise, we will not face the topic at hand. you implied you thought trump could come back from these allegations, potentially perhaps also from two women going to "the times" and telling their story, but the fact is he needs women voters. they make up the majority of the undecided voters. do you really think ththey are going to take same view you just gave us? was always his base white males of a certain education -- >> but he has got to broaden that, doesn't he?
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males might find hispanic feeling that this macho way of talking is kind of nice or even black males saying the same thing. you might even find the kind of -- i mean, listen to country music. even when sung by women, it's all about that kind of man, and man"it is "stand by your because, after all, he is just a man. i really do not know what might or might not happen, and i really wish women would rise up and say he has had it. i do not think that is going to happen. >> i think the problem is a different one. i think everyone always knew as you justan oaf, said, and that he was sexist as well. that was common knowledge, but i think the problem is that he , and the voters he has to catch are these conservative and religious
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voters, and they do not want to talk about sex. it's different in europe. everyone talks about sex. >> actually, he had talked about sex plenty before. remember the debate during the primary when he more or less bragged about the size and effectiveness of his sexual equipment? he'sifference here is talking about assault, molestation. >> exactly. -- i agreeink that that he never had much chance with women. i think it just drove home again that he was sex-driven. perhaps it is not a problem for conservative voters, but i cannot imagine all these tea party guys voting for him not their idea of how you should behave as a
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churchgoing president. or perhaps it is not a problem. i cannot really tell. >> in a way, it's great that it is happening. remember when bill clinton did this stuff? the republican party was up in arms. a question of character. >> it was not just the republican party. saying herybody brought public discourse down to kind of a . well, here we go. now, the same democrats who defended bill clinton saying that as his private matter -- now, they are all accusing trump , and the great thing is the question of who is for what, and the whole moral issue, the cultural wars have been declared invalid. -- theublican values
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republican party supporting a sexist oaf. >> actually, the republican party is by no means united anymore supporting donald trump. your paper published a long list who are nowns deserting what they clearly perceived to be a sinking ship. among the most recently john mccain, arnold schwarzenegger, condoleezza rice all saying they cannot vote for mr. trump. is there a certain element of hypocrisy? it has been perfectly clear for a long time -- >> politics would not exist without hypocrisy, but i would like to go back to your point that what happens afterwards is really kind of the important thing here. if it is the culture wars or whatever, these are all
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substitutes for what is essentially a strugglele for power, which, traditionally, in the united states has been fight between democrats and republicans, broadly speaking, center right, or broadly speaking more left, but i'm not sure left and right are particularly helpful because those european terms do not really apply when you get to u.s. politics. i think it is much more interesting to see what will remain this fight the day after there is a decision, and what will the reality after the election due to resolve the basic issues that it has thrown up, and which will not be solved by the choice of either clinton or trump, per se. >> can we come back to that a little bit later? i want to focus on that, but i would like to take a brief look first at the storm that has been
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unleashed by release of the tape, and in particulalar, the twitter storm that mr. trump himself has now unchanged. -- has nownged unchained. launched a blistering attack on paul ryan, the country's highest ranking republican. it is hard to do well when paul ryan and others give zero support. trump called ryan a very weak and ineffective leader. and then this -- it's so nice the shackles have been taken off me and i can now fight for america the way that i want to. >> as i said, your opening statement implies that you do think trump can come back from this, but does he not need the republican party organization where his own campaign organization is so weak on the ground, particularly in swing states -- doesn't he need their backing?
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he is now absolutely flouting them. >> the first thing you have to say is, again, he is right in that he has cast off the shackles. 't votesays now he can for trump, and he could vote for someone who called mexicans rapists, and who said on a tv show that a woman has blood coming out of her? that was all right? come on. all these people that are now against trunk from the republican party, guys -- and gals, some of them -- you are too late. if he is casting them off, i think it will galvanize his .upport i think he really has a chance his whole pitch has been, "i'm the new guy, not part of the establishment. i say what i think. i do what i say."
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thisnk it is working with aggressive, resentment-laden male voter who says, "finally, there is a guy who is a real macho and does not kowtow to these washington politicals." >> am not even sure it is resentment-laden people. americans are always questining for something new. there's a willingness to say maybe this guy will shake things up. i found it interesting. bone, the- ken unexpected hit of the second debate, who were his red sweater , posed a question about energy. he became an internet sensation for at least five minutes, and he sort of said economically, he ought to be going with trump because he works in the coal
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sector and trump sort of echoes more closely the nature of his day to day problems, but it would be impossible for him personally to do that beuse things l like marriagege equaliy and other rights that have been won by minorities are two hard-fought victory -- too to beought a victory given up. i found it interesting because this was not someone who was eitherg at the mouth on floor. he was taking a very sanguine look and he did not out of hand reject trump p plus argument whe at the same time praising things that are much more likely to put in the hillary camp. >> you are right when you say the conservative establishment could have somehow -- be angry with trump before because of what he had said. i think the interesting thing is that i think that is what this is all about.
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showedvey has clearly -- the conservative establishment was just looking for a good reason to somehow get away from trump before it is too late for them. for them, it is clear that they will lose the race for presidency. now the only question is how to keep the majority in the house and what to do afterward. ofy do not want to be part the sinking ship, so they all went overboard as soon as possible. the video was just an excuse to get rid of trump, but they would have found another excuse if this video had not been excavated. >> particularly strange is the that some of those who jumped ship are now halfway trying to climb back on. 405 members said they were not
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really rejecting the top of the take it, but we just kind of a little disturbed about the tape. party is inan tremendous disarray. do you really believe that polls are so inaccurate that at the end of the day they can come back from this to win the election, both for the presidency and both chambers of the congress? >> well, yes, i do. short answer. the problem is, really, the party is in disarray because it has nothing to do. everything the party stands for, the party of abraham lincoln, for god sake, has nothing to do with what trump stands for. i hate what he said about women. the real problem is what he is saying about mr. putin, for instance, that he thinks he is a nice guy. he could get on with him. or the fact that he says in the same breath he could deal with and with a stroke of a pen
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what he would do with this war on immigration. these are the real problems, that he has no coherent policy in the policy he has has nothing to do with the sort of small government, basically liberal in the economic sense policies that, shall we say, mitt romney or ronald reagan stood for. this is the really terrible thing. if he actually got into the white house, what wowould he do with that party? would he do with that position of power? who would he a point to govern with him? very unclear. >> he might form a new party. >> very possibly. we have known they republican party has been in some disarray for some years. the appearance of the tea party has basically forced an ideological struggle upon the republicans, and that has been in full swing for at least the past two major national
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elections if not longer. assessment of many people was that the approach taken by donald trump at this latest debate and the approach he is essentially using now that he is unshackled is to throw red meat at his core voters, many of whom are disgusted with the party elite in the republican ranks. let's take a look at one of withholde trump voters my colleagues in the u.s. spoke. aroundchilton shows us his property in arizona, more than 200 square kilometers. part of it runs along the border with mexico. chilton says the u.s. government is not doing enough to protect him and other local ranchers from mexican smugglers. these e ctures werere taken last 'sar by hidddden camer onn jim prproperty. hililarious to think that the united states boundary on my 4-strandnothing but a a
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barb wire fence. >> jim says the border authorities should replace that with a real fans plus checkpoioints and more frequent patrols. right now, the nearerest border station is about three houours nonorth of here. >> whyhy not have a wall and ros , and why not allow people to come into this country legally? believeid not really trump's boasting when it came to his prowess with women. do you believe his claims about building a wall? followthink he will through if elected? >> why not? i think he could do it. he might not get mexico to pay for it as he says he will, but he can do what that rancher said. there already is along the rio protectiveole lot of devices. all he needs to do is increase that. of course he can do it.
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he is part of a trend. we have just a few minutes left, and i really would like to come back to the question posed earlier on about what happens on the day after. two of you agree that the day will be in the hands of hillary clinton. one of you believes it could be in the hands of donald trump. regardless of who you think will win, a lot of ghosts has been let out of the bottle in the course of this election. we have had some of the most vulgar, poisonous discourse we have ever seen in a u.s. election. what happens after this election ? how does the u.s. come back from that? >> the most important question is if republicans will have a majority in the house and senate. they would just continue what they did when obama was president, obstruct every kind
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nopolicy and claim there was political aim worth fighting for. words, that is exactly the recipe for a continuation of what we have now. >> the paralysis and polarization. >> exactly, and that is something republicans apparently do notot understanand. i do not have the feeling paul ryan understands why republicans are losingowower. aey still think that it is very good idea to just continue constructing policy or politics. the basic issue that has to be addressed is that the majority of americans lose out. for the last 40 years, salaries in real terms have not risen for the majority, but everything became more expensive. >> summarizing middle-class income in the past year. >> yes, but you can look at statistics for the last 40
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years. nothing happened for the majority. at the same time, everything became more expensive, especially university. that was why there was such a big student unrest. that's why they supported bernie sanders. and you really have to address these issues if you want the united states to be a country that can be ruled. >> another aspect -- we have seen some very strong denigrating of u.s. institutions on behalf of donald trump. your paper found the most this serving aspect of the most recent debate not the discussion of the sex tape, but donald trump's call for a special prosecutor who would throw hillary clinton in jail. that is not t u.s. constitutionl democracy. that does -- does that do damage to institutions? >> is certainly test those institutions, and i think we need to ask ourselves the very basic question -- what is democracy? , as a german historian
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said one of his last interviews before he died sadly earlier this year -- democracy must be defended, is what he said. i think that is the basic question we all have to ask ourselves. kind of forget all this storm and drank about every peccadillo of mr. trump -- kind of forget drang aboutrm and every peccadillo of mr. trump every e-mail of mrs. clinton and move beyond those particular issues to the basic question of what we will do with our future. we all know the world is changing rapidly. some of the reason why we have seen people like mr. trump rise is because people are looking for what they perceive to be certainty in a very quickly shifting world. so it is up to us to sort of orient ourselves toward our
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basic values, and there, the question is -- will the republican party finally sort of , and will itate continue to have influence through the senate and house, or is there a prospect of a democratic majority? >> briefly, if you would please, what happens to donald trump himself? you say he is not finished and he will go back to business as usual? >> he forms a misogynistic party to fight hillary clinton. if he is in the presidency, he also forms a fascist party to ensure the continuation of his rule. if he loses, america is even more divided than it is now. that is what he is going to do. >> very dystopian last words. thank you very much to all of you for being with us today and thanks to all of you out there for tuning in. see you simply.
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♪ damien: hello and welcome to "focus on europe." i'm damien mcguinness. great you could join us today. europe right now is having to deal with numerous problems, such as the refugee crisis, that are having a direct impact on the lives of ordinary people. but many europeans are also still dealing with painful memories of the past. 70 years have gone by since nazi soldiers shot 700 men and boys in the greek town of kalavryta. some of their relatives want to move on. others though are calling for
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compensation, such as this man, who says germany should be held responsible. but more of that later in the programme. the story of lorenzo. first, an italian writer who is traumatised by memories of a more recent event, something that happened 15 years ago. during a g8 summit, being held in the italian city of genoa, lorenzo was one of hundreds of people hurt in violent clashes between police and anti-globalisationon protestors. peaceful demonstrators, like lorenzo, were beaten brutally by police. and although the wounds may have healed, in many cases the mental trauma is still very much there. >> lorenzo guadagnucci has always been passionate about the written word. he's an author and journalist, and he's critical of globalisation. 15 years ago, his life was turned up side down. >> i was subjected to brutal
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violence and i was afraid i'd , die. the experience changed my life. it was like torture. i will never forget the feeling. >> guadagnucci recalls the video night on july 22, during 2001 the g8 summit in genoa. that night, the headquarters of globalisation protestors were stormed by police. italian newspapers later reported beatings, and scenes resembling a dictatorship. >> they were relentless. i tried shielding my head with my arms and legs. >> these acts of violence were preceded by days of rioting. angry protestors from all over europe had taken to the streets in genoa and totally overwhelmed the italian police. a 23-year-old italian was shot in the head by a policeman.
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and killed. when police stormed the protestors' headquarters, guadagnucci was soso badly beatn that he hahad to be hospititali. he s suffered multipiple burns m a a policece taser. >> we were trapped, there was no escape. the police were in total control. nothing justifies their extreme viololence. many protestors suffered permrmanent injuries. >> guadagnucci took the issue to court, along with more than a hundred other victims. and, after all those years, he won. none of the policemen can be charged for their acts of violence because of the statute of limitation. and italy's interior ministry is taking a soft stance.. >> one of the main offendersrs s given just a 50 euro fine to pay to his own department.
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despite being convicted of committing torture and bodily harm. >> lawyer tambuscio went to the european court of human rights. the judges condemned the excessive force displayed by italian police. and demanded that the italian state pass a l law against abube and torture. but gianni tononelli from ththe italian police union s says that susuch laws alreready exist. h e he agrees that his colleagues used excessive force, but says not every officer from back then should still be held under suspicion. >> it's not the police's fault that our justice system works so slowly. nobody in the police force wants to evade justice. but you can't blame the accused if the courts don't deliver sentences in time. >> tonelli also rejects claims
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that no disciplinary action was taken against the police officers who were in genoa in 2001. >> the accused were temporarily suspended from duty. for some, this meant the end of their careers. everything was done according to protocol. >> today, some of those who sustained injuries at the g8 summit will be awarded financial compensation of 45,000 euros. the italian authorities want to pay their way out of further trials. but guadagnucci, like many others, won't play along. >> does italy take the european convention for human rights seriously? if all we get after the ruling from the european court of human rights is money, then this is a legitimate question. >> today, guadagnucci lives in the hills of florence. he still feels bitter that his country failed to enforce the
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european legal principles against violent abuse and torture. damien: they start their journey dreaming of peace and freedom. but they end up finding danger and poverty, trapped in a foreign country. that's the experience of many refugees fleeing to europe. the problem is that they are often so desperate to escape war and persecution, that they pay people traffickers to be smuggled into europe illegally. and it has become big business. so who are the smugglers? , to answer that question, our reporters have been investigating one of the biggest, and most lucrative smuggling routes, from eritrea, across northern africa, the mediterranean and southern europe, to get here to germany. >> it is the end of a tortuous journey. hundreds of refgees, mainly from the east african country of eritrea, have wound up in housing among the brothels and sex clubs around frankfurt's
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central train station. from libya, they made the perilous journey across the mediterranean to get to europe. many paid thousands of euros to unscrupulous people smugglers for the journey through h the desert and then the boat trip to , italy. >> my family paid for the whole trip from ethiopia to italy. it must have cost between 6000 and 7000 euros. >> some migrants were sold to other bands of human traffickers en route. these new owners demanded more money. >> a people smuggler named walid took charge of us. then we had to pay him off before he'd let us get on the boats that took us out to sea. > their goal, to reach sicic. since 2014, , some 10,000 people have drowned in similar attempts. in the sicilian capital,
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palermo, the anti-mafia pool is investigating the human trafficking ring responsible. the pool was founded by murdered anti-mafia prosecutors giovanni falcone and paolo borsellino. investigators know the heads of the operation are based in libya, and their network reaches far beyond europe's shores. >> they treat these people as less than animals. there are many cases of rape of women, being beaten, and of migrants being killed, especially on the route through the desert. then to put all of them in these vessels is unbelievable to think about. small boats that we don't use to go fishing. >> we're given an exclusive look into the files of the case. they say that 71 people suspected of belonging to the people smuggling network have been arrested. most were caught in italy, but were seeking asylum in germany.
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three 2:11 a special unit of the italian police listened in on more than 40,000 phone conversations, between traffickers and refugees, but also between the traffickers themselves. this enabled investigators t to uncover the people s smuggliling ring. it's headed by this man, ermias ghermay from ethiopia. he's thought to have earned around a hundred million euros from the trade of migrants in just a few years. he sets boats off across the memediterraneaean, assuming thte refugees will be rescued by ships from the eu. the overfilled boats aren't seaworthy enough to make it to sicily on their own. this cynical practice often has deadly consequences. >> when they arrive in sicily , they also pay for this last part of the trip, or their relatives, families, friends in germany, london, or stockholm, pay for them via middlemen.
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so they receive support for the , last trip. >> we move on to rome, where the police arrested two eritrean leaders of the people smuggling ring. ey stotored around 5 550,000 eus in cash at a perfume shop near the train station. the money was seized and the shop was shut down. next stop, milan. here many call the via palazzi , little africa. migrants can find and pay people smugglers to arrange the next leg of their journey to germany. our informer is equipped with a hidden camera. together with a refugee he meets eritrean human trafficker tesfargergis abraham, alias , tesfin. >> i need your advice and assistance so we c can get away fromere.e. i'veve heard you h help people h their goal. >> how much to get t to germany? >> it costs 550 euros to get to germany. >> do you offer a garantee? >> yes.
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>> would you say it is a big risk? >> sometimes yes, sometimes no. of the 550 euros, 150 are for the document, 50 for the ticket, and the rest goes to the counterfeiters and those who organize the trip. >> the final goal of many eritreans is to reach frankfurt. the largest eritrean community in g germany lives in and around frankfurt. these two women survived the perilous journey. simret abraham gave birth to her young daughter in italy, while still on the run. an ordeal she wouldn't want to repeat. >> never again. we fled because things were so bad for us in our homeland. but what we experienced during our trip was so awful that i wouldn't do it again. >> there are indications that
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members of the people-smuggling ring are posing as refugees and living in the frankfurt area. so far they've managed to avoid , detection by german authorities. so, for the human traffickers, it's business as usual. damien: living here in germany, i'm always struck by how the crimes of the nazis during world war ii, are more than just historical facts. the determination not to allow such atrocities to happen again, is very much a part of modern german political culture. but some europeans say germany still hasn't done enough to make up for the crimes of the past. particularly in greece, where the nazis committed terrible atrocities. to find out more, we've been to meet some of those elderly greeks who still remember and still mourn what the nazis did to their relatives. >> kalalavryta is a a small town the e mountains ofof the northen peponnnnese. it's often called the town of widows, because on this hill nearby, nearly all of the e men and boys aged 13 and older were
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murdered by nazi soldiers in december 1943. spirous dimopoulos was 8 then. he heard the shooting, ran to the hill, and found his father's body. >> i went alone, without my mother. i saw everything. while the corpses, 600 or women 700. came with bedspreads, and lalaid the bodies of their husbands onn them, and then dragged them down the hill to the cemetery. >> spiros dimopoulos remembers the shallow grave dug for his father. the trauma remains with him to this day. in the 1950's, he and about 30 other youngsters from kalavryta were invited to west germany for job training, a gesture of reconciliation by the country that perpetrated numerous massacres in greece.
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but for dimopoulos, that didn't go far enough. he wants germany to pay compensation. >> the fear i i felt, the fear i endured, who will compensate me for that? i can't sleep at nigight. it's been going on for years and years. i have lost 10 years of sleep. who's to blame? who could it be, t the germans? it's quite possibible. >> almost everyone in kalavryta is on the search for their past. on that december day 73 years ago, alexandra restemi's brother and father were killed. she was 18 and the oldest of four children. >> my father came to kalavryta to fetch his son, bubut the germans seized himim. and then they killed both of them. >> alexandra restemi is 91. she's never gotten over what happened. kalavryta's municipal museum
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tells the story of the area under italian and then german occupation. in an act of revenge for the killing of about 80 german soldiers by local partisans, nazi troops killed greek civilians, nearly all the men and boys of kalavryta. for alexandra restemi, the military background is irrelevant. it's the horrible memories that haunt her. she can hardly bear to look at the photograph of her father. according to her niece, decades passed before she spoke about the massacre. >> after some years, when we asked her about what happened, then she started saying the ststy. and ththen really slowly she started saying things about what happened back then. >> alexandra restemi, her mother and sisters stayed in kalavryta, as did most of the bereaved women. but she does not express bitterness. >> we should not feel hate.
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whatat happened, happened. of course, they should nevever have beeeen allowed to kill so many peoplple. >> this is the memorial to the victims of the massacre. here only a few are willing to , forgive and forget. most want germany to do more to compensate the victims' families.. damien: painful memories in greece of nazi war crimes. so, what do you think? should modern-day germany pay reparations? i'd be really interested to know your thoughts. drop me a line on twitter, email or facebook. , thanks to all of you who got in touch about a similar story recently, about whether the austrian house where adolf hitler was born should be destroyed. walter ty suggests, that it should be turned into an anti-fascist museum. do keep those comments coming. back in my home country of britain, the big issue we're all arguing about is what sort of relationship the eu should have with the uk once it's no longer a member. you'll remember that in june british voters opted to leave the eu in a referendum.
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the debate was heated and at times divisive. i know families who have fallen out with each other over the issue. but what does leaving actually mean? norway for example is not in the eu, but has extremely close trade ties. so would norway, be a good model for the uk? probably not, say norwegians themselves. >> the owner of this field is glad his country's not in the eu. he's a leading politician here and may even head the government , some day. right now, he's weeding his crop. >> this is wheat. one square meter of wheat from this field makes one loaf of norwegian bread. that works out to 120,000 loaves growing here. that's a lot for norway, but not enough to compete in the eu. that's according to agrarian centrist politician vedum.
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>> in norway it's our goal to , use all the land from the finnish border to the southern tip. all resources should be available to the people. i'm sure that's one of the reasons why norway voted against joining the eu in the 1994 referendum. the state subsidizes farmers to grow crops in smaller fields, in the mountains or along fjords. >> these quintessential norwegian cows should not have to compete with eu cattle. that's why agriculture and fishing norway's own domestic , production are excluded from , the european economic area. tariffs imposed to protect local goods boost the price of food items like this dutch cheese on the farmers' market in oslo. >> the farmers have a good foot in the government, as i understand, to raise taxes and customer costs for foreign
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cheeses to protect their own cheeses. that's basically what it is. >> but having enough money helps. norway can well afford the norwegian model, thanks to revenues from north-sea oil. norway's special agreement on access to the european union market comes at a price which norway pays much as if it were an eumember. a voice in eu policy would only come with norway's membership. and polls show that over 70% of people here would still vote against it for many of the same reasons the british did. >> there was a big discussion about social insurance tourism. one aspect is that workers from, say eastern europe, could ush out norwegian workers, because they're cheaper. the norwegian unions took action. now, foreign employees have to work under conditions that are standard here. this way, no two-class system
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can develop, and labor conditions won't deteriorate here. >> migration is a topic of debate in norway, too. though less heated as in the eu, it's about migration from the eu as well as from elsewhere. according to the european single market agreement, any eu citizen ceded too much power to brussels. >> i don't think great britain wants a similar agreement to our eos agreement. >> the british may feel at home with norwegian weather, but with the norwegian model probably not , as much.
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damien: now a lot of people i , know where i live in berlin, would like to buy their own apartment. which is actually quite unusual in germany. traditionally germans tend to , rent rather than buy homes in cities. but it's all because of low interest rates. and it's leading to rapidly rising property prices. just across the border in the czech republic though, for the same cost as a flat, you can buy a fairy-tale castle. although it might need a fair bit of fixing up. >> this mansion in the country just outside prague can be had for a mere 200,000 euros. but there's a catch. >> we're here in a typical czech chateau. one strong gust would blow the whole thing down. all that's left of the roof is pieces. but there are still some traces of the time when it was a luxury estate belonging to an aristocratic family. >> natalia makovik specializes in selling manor houses.
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she estimates that the new owners would have to invest as much as euros in this one to one million restore it to its former glory. it's no exception in the czech republic. a good 90% of these stately homes are in an equally deplorable condition, she says. and very few czech home buyers have the money to save the aging structures. >> if we don't succeed in bringing in serious investors within the next 10 years, especially from abroad, a great many of the czech manor houses will be completely lost. >> this estate about a hundred kilometers east of prague is on the market. galina befort and katharina michaelis, russian citizens residing in southern germany, have come to see it. they're looking for a chateau in the czech republic for a 'social project'. but they don't go into
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specifics. >> i spotted it a month or two ago on your facebook page and did some research on the internet. and i showed it to my partner and said, katharina, look at this. it's the palace of my dreams. >> they've come a long way to find out the reality behind their dreams, a 600,000-euro price tag, plus another estimated million for the 1.5 restoration rather steep. >> as you can see, much of the ceiling is still well-preserved. the missing pieces can all be faithfully reconstructed to match the originals. >> but many czechs aren't so happy to see their heritage being sold off one piece at a time. most czech property-owners just
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don't have the means to keep up these stately homes, so they're offered to solvent buyers from abroad. in spite of the rouble and euro crises, russiaians are the most frequent customers. that doesn't sit well with many of the local residents especially in rural areas. >> before you know it, we'll have gambling dens and the mafia here. >> it used to be like a park where you could take a nice walk. now, there's a wall here. nobody's allowed on the property any more. >> the potential investors can't understand such complaints. >> it's not like we're coming here with nothing. we're hoping to invest and help to improve the infrastructure, as well. the project will fill the place with life. we'll have to hire people. we'll be creating jobs.
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>> natalia makovik agrees. she says it's important to preserve the old estates for future generations. >> the great danger is that society will fail to maintain its cultural legacy. it stands by and watches these grand houses the symbol of the , whole country just crumble and , decay and die. >> natalia is working to prevent that, not just for professional reasons, but out of passion, too. damien: well that's all for this week. thanks very much for watching. remember do feel free to get in touch with us anytime with your thoughts and comments. but for now it's goodbye f from me, and the whole team here. and do join us next week for more personal stories from all over europe. ♪ [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit]
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♪ >> too many outsiders, culture and los angeles is something that begins and d ends with h te movivies. but the city has alwayays been home to radical ideas and art, architecture, literal -- literature, and urban life. the profile of the city has run bigger and writer. with new cultural institutions, new approaches to art, and new ways of thinking about the landscape. join me asas we hit some of thee city's most importatant cultural landscapes.. "artbound."." [captions
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made possible by kcet television] we can exploree forever. >> amamazing people coming from all over the world. a maker and a designer. >> the better art happensns at e boundaries where the real gives up to the idealal. ♪ >> next on "artbound" -- >> los a angeles, a a chilled ot orange grove that became a movie capital and manufacturing center. now it's changing againin, in favor of a new kind of urbanism. los angeles is remaking itself. new train lines connect east and west.
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on per is coming back to life. christopher hawthorne takes us to this new panorama. >> what is the third los angegele it's essentialla a shorand.d. describing tyoyou shthanand s angeles is workingndnd rugglili to establish. the city is taking real, memeasurle, , ofn contntversial .teps includg the prate car,he freey, the sgle-fami house the lawn. it no loer dream of finite pansion e way of long dead, ofrowiwingts wayayut of every problem. increasinglyfffferina vavariy of ways to move arndnd theity.y. car share, bike share, new trsit t lis. it is too easy s say simply
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atat losngeleless movivi into a new asase of identity, from a b b. that i i can -- that idea loss er onenemportantact. manyf the ements we're loing to add or improve, archectuturecivivic buildings, longeles pduced in remarkab quantits at the d of the 19tanand stt ofof t 20th century's. in our cicic dna something bebeforehe c carbeforerehe freeway, before the concret l. river, the lawn andhehe smoke. as i see it, that's s the rst s angeges. fromhe 10'through rld waii. that's thfirst los angele thsecondndos angeles, the l.a. atat proced d althosee familiar erereotys ababou car and the shrunk civic rlm, it rs the rouly the yr 2000.
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athe heart othe thirl.a. coept is t idea th the ci is noongerushing o at thedges, sawling and up ptyby gobbli land but lding ba on itself, oking toevelopore intensely in i r race grow. this emeing cityhat we a seeingow, the cit rediscering its public spaces, viving pt cacar lture e d the singleamamilyousese, xiouss about economic inequali, , in many ways having to reararn th ararof sharing t thiany raraer -- tsaving chop it up ememerng citis best derstood as the thi los aeles. for much of the 19th an20th ntururies, l.aculture ke most of ameranan culture was
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obsessed with a ki of westrdrd pansion d the e nventional wisdom of the way to realolos angelelewas to move from east west. to startowntown,ear the river, a move towards the edgege, e beacac meaning saa monica was oneff e last cultural frontis s of experirintation. you wera young tist or architect in the 1970's s or 1980''s, chances are good you would set up hernenear the edge, ne thehe bch. it was effective ta. culture was informe by idea of expementatio at this ststern ge.. thanks to rising rents and gentfificati, ththiss no long t that nd o of ty. venice is no lonr r the place where ung artis s are ttining up shop. th a are dng i it rtherrasast in moror affordable rts of the city. meaning that the culraral ceer moving dramatically frowewest easast. the city is doubling back on seself.
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instead of lookingor new, frfresherritory, w edges to exndnd towards, it is looking ininsteato r redelop a aas of the ci t that ignored in many waysys iits rush to the weste ed. >> loo at the ocnfnfront all that you see is horizonff ter r ansky. it's inspining. that's totallinspirin fresh air is totally inspiring. abbo kinney,ho wanteto devep and ma mon, heent toood schos and stied the classics, studied in europe. hehe h studied iheidelbe, turk. wanted replica the beautyf f tharchitectu that he had sn aroundhe world sohe wou dig cans and then haveve waterwa set of reets.
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there was a seeses of jor r an minor c cattrophehe they put all the money into ee or, winwd avee. e sto destroyed it. the e la valaluehad plummeted om the 20's, 30's, the wartime. area-s anttractiv it wasn't an attctctive area, nenecessilily. artist livedere. jazz musiaians, ets,s, writers. >>hat th wasas alace w wre artistcame in e 50's and 60's becausyoyou cod geget big warehouse spe fofor xt too nothing and yocan serve. it was low-cos placeo be a eative pson.
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>>t is usuly called wher the debr meets t sea. surrounded by alcohols, bon, and meally ill people. iteally was ly that was cheap. he was able to ren303000 saree feet off space on manene, tw bloc from the beach, for $75 a nth. >> my rst pla is six- my fit place s $64 mon. you n even sy here f one ght for64. yeah, $64 a month. >> i remember e e firsday i was hehe. i ke up in the morning. it was a beautifulororning and the e was dead bodjustst laying there. detectives we sming cicirettes, walking arou andnd cckingg jokes. th was my rst morng in nice. i'm notryiyingo make arime scene out ofenice, but it
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literayy was. the only people atat wercrazazy enough to really move into the ararea we arartis. people like really bankston, e moses, larry ll, bob graham. the rest ofhe neighborhood ss hoers s andrug d dlers. crazies. the crs s and e blbloo. basicall venice waa very differt t placthanan iis nowow young artists could acally ist t do here.e. tserocally,ome of artis becameroperty ners thselves. their ry prence madet an attrtive pla. theyrought i architects creang i intestingngooking houses
3:10 pm on thenou had sckbrokerand te people ming in, chasin th b bohemiais him -- bohemiani.-- c cours it t habeen destroy through thchchase. >> i came to vene e when wasas about seven year old. spliing withy mothernd fath l.a -- living wh my therer a fatathein l.a.. the first thing that r rememr ar their divorce, there was acach do there. thata's what we wanted to .. go down there, jump in the ter, feethe e sa. grandfaer, alfoe joseph
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first blackshe cecementontrtracr hereren los angele heound a aot of work. at this time the canals ee beg bubuil there are still a lot v vacan houses. werere into 2016. wewe havall of theseig mansns goingp. i oblem wi that ishey are tearing wn perfely good houses, buding the mansions. onofof theirstst thingthey d is put up an legal fee, tall bushes a things. you neveget a ahance to see themem. i like to know my neighbs.s. know m mt of them on this blk here. since gentrificati i is he, u don't get a chanctoto know them. there still are few pioneer mililieseft ear. bunonot ve manany. not very many.
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>> there wasn' even a place to get a mbmburge ththe was nothing down here. ifif y walk down market stre tohe boaoawalk and lookk towards santa monica and saw 20 ouldle all the waythat be big day nobodyame down here. w was ety.. we are now in fronofof 77 rketet street. i used to own number 76 mkeket reetet. snapchat started acquiri a all the prprerty around here. threntnt g too h hh. i think they have l l of t bubudings on this street. i don't know how iisis goi too play out. as it hascarries on be g goingyou u kn, litttt towns like this, a little house
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likeke this built in the 's will be worth $25illion for litt shack lik tha >> fortunate, , los geleles s lots of underdeveleded ighbororods. erybody doesn't ha t to li ininhe same blocks. venice or atwate whever t t artist go, utiqiquewill follow and artists lead the way. evereryby elsese follows, the wy is s tritionanay. >> los angeles h a alwaybeenen known as the city of nehbhborhood e of the ones wi t the ststrongest cultural identity is this parart. it was id out -is this park. 1920's.d out in the
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a a neigorhohoodhat was protecd d by rial l conants.s. it wasn't titil thracece rts of 19 65 and accelatating itee flight that the neighborodod came w wt we know it today as, a rerealenter r african-ameranan polics s an art. as we await the arrivalf f the crenenaw line light-rail route, bringing hopes o new invtment d develoent and xieties abougentrifitition a displacement, e e queson i is whetheher can maintain that rereputati a as thhearart the centerff african-american culture in los anges and the reon.. >> how are you doi?? >> i'm good how aryou?
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>> good morning. i'm m gog to g g started. to the house.ow annene wit anything that the counity shldld be are e of weekwas contacted last [inaudible opportunity toet more properti, commity owne with mor propeies. thought we were doining,ccumululing all of the prproperes f for us. now that people are going to s the alonon coming. [indiscernible] everybody's gettg g seris now. this h h been going on f 30 years. since 1987. we havbebeen ting g toave this for aican-americans. ththiss noththg no -- nothing ne
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's secret. we've been workingn n thisor a a long timim >> just haa a quick esestion i just had a quick question. the metro line wi b be upnd nning by the year 2020. 202020 visioisis somhihing tt ew out of our moay morning meings. it was a way f us to have a plan owhatat ts neneigorhoodod would look like when our ighbhborfrom a a over the world come up out of the meoo op. i think it's a itite unue thering of peopl it's a lot of the 60's children o are rered d tour the main sese of e pepeop doingnghe planning. it's al verery mu like a eam te. eachf them kw exactlhat ises need toake plac this is brother to.. changing the world, ma
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one of the greatest men on the plan rigightere. you are in good coanany. >> sings wonderfly. [improvisational singing] ♪ blacks is the center of cuculturin a ameca. ght ininhe middle of it. as i kn it, thiis a ver unique place th a sentive hisry. started around the same time of the 1932 olympics. the first totally plan neighborhood village -- totally planned neighborhood village. they didn't allow people of color to live here. >> it was all white. ere was no thoug o of anodyy se beiei here. people startedck moviving west. startn965 in
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e areaecameuch lesshite, ch more ack after at. aftethat, e bachmagallery stard. the whole black tstsovement became place tgrow. >> the need for oppoununitie foafrican-amican andther mirity artiss was the reason wepenened rockmkm gallery. o openeit u in 1967. i was 20. myrorother was 24.4. we automically kneit was going to bnique cause we we here promoteinority tists. the was thing le it in e commity. you think aut theociaial impact, the political impacts of ththe time, we were ght for is
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oppounity. pe for r is oprtunity. the brockman galleris the reason that we are still on th map. it's a lot to say it's a proud moment, to be a partf this growing and coinuing htory of e area a cultul h. th' changededhe gam theyought t jor piecec of , addi to the orory that we're goi to have >> ts place is drenched in art. l l kindof a. it's mamajor voice -- major force for change in th nehborhoho here. i say at, i'm flinching.
3:20 pm was a movement the mta was going touiuild t linehat stops at enenshawing , justalf ofhe area. ereasn outcry be that manyms to pelele in e viville aree nervous abouthahat th meaeans they wanted a train stopbubut with a a gain more desirable, thiningset more expensive. they are very worrd d abou gentrification. euphemism for white people comi in and changing the col of things. thiss knknowas a b bck, grassroo p place i would say atat it's s be a long time coming. 20 o yeaears in some ways it took tooonong. in other ws, it's comingoo fast >> we are 9% of e e poputionon of los angeles and we own 55% of
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ththiseighborhd. i don't think is about bad atisisti. ththonly thing we have to dis to fight, to make sure thaththe histororof our iolveveme and gagement in this neighborhood ststays at way. people rembeberingt soso i won't get run ov.. [cheering] check it out. evereryby holdldhe handout like this. riright? lowre gng to start in a tonethenen ware gogog to get highhehere istopops. 1, 2, 3. [cheering in unison] >> me and this gir named devon montgomery, she us t to ta mee to showst echo par diy type shows. i s s comi from a hip-hop babackgrnd.. battles and stuff. she thought it would be cool if we bughtht our worlds together i was like, tight.
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we started dng bananas. i helped to promote .. was rerely good at internet omototin i grew it into whaitit is w. [wrapping] ♪ sticking to the meme eth, oking bands. bookg wrwraprs. other genres, pelele whoo beats, who sing, stuff like th. ♪ >> itarted coming to b banas whent t was couple oyearars rolling already. i'm an avid suororter. i'm here every m mth, without fafail. it's like a pcece forellolowsp and art. where people can expressheir
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ideas, bounce ideas off e each othehe and collaborate with ea otr. i'm optimistic tt t it wl kekeep its esnce. there is no other placlilike is. it is mecca for culture, sisic. i think that's wh m makes it the park.ark -- la merck the people. ththe cuure.e. ♪ >> ♪ get ready get ready get ready ♪ ♪
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>> theollywoodign ha liv three diinct lives. put up in 1923 to average -- to advertise an upscale subdisision callll hollywood land. followed, its that simply set hollywood, shn n of the lala four letters. itececame absbstrt symbol recognized across the wod for thee newly ambitus movie busiss and ihad d no connection to the neighborho orocatioiophysically in los angeles. now, in the third los anleles, thankskso a combination of seie culture, soci media, and dital mapping, its lolocati hasas become intensely imrtanant. there arincreasi numbersf pedestris tryingo make tir ,ay ups close the sign closasas thecan n tot to t te a pho to post to instagm.m.
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ere arall sortrtof battles in the neiboborhoo about who should he accesso o the streres, sidewalks, and trails in the area. isis, inany y wa, is the third loangeles. this mix of techlology a obobructionism. battleover access to srered space e d how the city will be defined over it. anybody afraid of heigs? l right, cool. that's thtotop ofhe r recd building. it's built to look lika a stac ofof rords.. >> oh. 1, 2, 3. [l[laughr] the sign has always been attracng peopl this ithe quinssential
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selfie picre. ople comup here d immeately post to insta. i know that there have bnn mplainin, but at the same time when you buy a home ritt derneathhe hololwood sign, itititeral comomes with the territory, rhtht? know thathere is tt tensn betweethe resince of the area andsers of the park. >>t's an internationalymymbol of wits and glamour. bui ththina lot t times in lolos anles,s, sce it inception ahollllywd sig has been location point. the orinal holwood sig s built 1923, t adverse thnew devepment of hollywo land.
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it was built by a kind of consortium of heavyweight and early los angelesinincludg g eli clark and hibrbrotheinin-law people who felt thathehey were stuck in the grime and hustle and d bule of thbig cici would look uand sollywoodand anthink th they coullive uphere like mot olyms. the signhat we s today i not th signonstrued in 1923. the sign that we see today was consnstrted in 1978, wn a grp of hollywood insiders, inincling huhu hefner, gene autry, and strgegely eughh alicee cooper got together and gaveve mey fororach letter. new hollywood sign wabubuilt. it's ngerous t there. the are pele just opping the mide of theoad wh theicars to t out and take ctctures didibeying traffic sns. bui also wt t s to peop
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-- youave chos to livender the moamous si in the world. u have csen to le under theollywoodign. >> im prey wewellalled d d fenced offn. so, it hasn'bebeen mh ofof a issue other than occasionally oplele pking i ifront of my gate or whatnot. i ha a f frid on b bchwood drive who is bloeded in s iveway at least every other ek and h t to ca a tow truc >> i found of his house, walked out t he, felllln love and thght -- isis is like being i lakeuouomo, ve m mines from the fun of majorolollywo ststios. i boughtt t immeatelely. you movento this ea, you thin that there is activity. just a neighborhood was few hike w with little bit of
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tourism until 2011. >> i in e laststour years or so we have had an extreme explosion p populity y of people coming up he asas aestinanaon. we expect it is main t throu ththadvent of people having gogoog maps on their cell phon. as traffic study showed 7000 exaa cars or weekend comg up he.. -- t last trfic studshowed 00 extra cars pereekend ming up. this tract was constructed in 1923. it was the very first papansio inin the hills. it was recreated with e e type of bandwidth in mind thawewe are experiencing tay. stst othese streets don't veve dewalks. it's a reci for daster. ere have been occasions ere re trucks and ambulances have nonot en ablblto get to the deinations becau of cars blocking tm or the streets being too narrow
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>> if you type hollywood sign into google maps, if you are a tourt oror seone h he who nts to st, it shs you littleain wherthe sign i if you ask for drivi direionsns t it, it will send yototo griffiths observatory infenced bybeen people in the city who say that th best place to go toeeee the signgns griffiths observatory. it doesn't actulyly telyouu that you can drive, park much clos, wawalkn publictreetsts hike on public trai. ase e kindf make this transition froa city that is kikind olockckednto our uses and yards to gng out into the streets and celebrining th pupuic spaces provided by th city, the are the peopleho don't want stranrs walki down t streetsa public street that anybo should able tuse. >> we d't wananto excde pele from ming up here. or discourage em even. it's s sily become untenable at is point
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people are tryintoto paint. homeowners, back-and-fth, guining tween n sidents. frfruently i have seen people jujustunningng bween stop signs and srsregarng t the no smoking signs, the lteriringnd whnot. --ould love to as them wod you like me to come to yoyour nghboborhd and d have like thi safe andt want to be share what we have a be asasonab. you don't carebobout yr puic safety, the public fefety of yououfriends and familil the you e e ignong s somhing t tt could killouou.
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>> theodern singleamily house on hillside s wher the drm o sond los geles s createand trsmitted to the re of the wld thankin large rt to imes fro the aritectural otograer juli shulmannd oers. at the picresuggestt was a deeply optimistic forward-looking prisise of postwar los anges.s. what does that dream lk k like now? even e fact tt empty piec of landn n whicto b bui these experiments are no loerer ailablbl it mostly means archecects dn thhill a a working in a range ofays to r rake or reimagi thidea o oresidentl chitectu in los anles fo a dser era.
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means lhthouses- it means houses le ts one are n longer fes to li, places t makeifeas mucas they ar muse pieces. places to examine t experintation at markethe powar dade as ifhey are objects der glas relive to oer, veryense york,its -- new totokyo,ao p pau, mexixi city -- it's probably fair to say that a a dpropororonately highumumber of single-family hohome this has been a place where peopleavave mod dudue get their little ploofof lanandd build their little hesestead the nuclear family is l longe thth model generating urban form the y y thatt generated in the 50''s. with all of these waysn n whic
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ththfamily is changing, i don'tt know a proliferation o thsands s single-mily homes of00000 sqre feet and upwards kekes see. i think that we've g to o chge the residential fabric to acmmodate e familyf the future. >> we are seeing the cy really transforand rebud itself a lot of the things atat we ve e here to stay. therare also parts oitit tha ararabout undergoing radica chchge. e city is trying out expemements ordrdero gett people back in t the cy anand usee the publitransportition. to be an architect, rtrt of at lows us to get outside of a p or kd ofof dign or sle discourse. en it cos to urb living and quality of lifas we nfront t realityhat the city wil cnge a loover the next 20 yes. bckbirds notio i
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is how dyou take the quali of 18 ngle-famy hses and pack tm into fe lots wh th added bus of a nse of mmunity. i think 's design sution the queion of dsity. to makehein part kindf neighbhood apppriate ece ise did whate cald ealth denty. sotimes th are twoouses t they lk like o house. some houses are threhohousesut ey look like one and a half hohous. is really very much a rtrt of is e expimentata tradition. >> dsity, i tnk, is o of thkey chalnges foros anges. -- has notis not realallyeen a a allenge that los anges hahas d to c cfront untilow and now it's coming out ke a a we.
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how weweake a more dense city work i iways tt are unique and real tthe e wa that we live rere. hethink that is one of great, imptant, prsising challelees for us. tha's meththinwe havavto figure outn n our n terms, as poposed importi models that might no fit so well from otrr aditioiol cities multifamily housing. a denser type housing is bemingng me andd more -- not ononly aecesessi, but t tually a quality that people are vyy terestst in here. one santfe was deloped oa sitehat manyeople di't know exied. beten is thresho the ts distrt, the rlroad, the river, and east los angeles on t o otheride.e. my major goal was toake a buding athat scale aind
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manyifferent ways foit to try to both weave into the cit ast exisis now, but also open up and anticipate th poibilitit of en more importanconnectis bween differensides ofhe city the fure. horizontal reali of the builng w waso deal with the realy ofof l angelel as a primarilyorizontacity. eryone tnks that city th sscrapers t he and devep vertally. at the same time, los angeles allyly h been a horizontal cityty. it is one of its quintessentia idtitieses atwere ryry muclookokin whetr that could ctinue to be aualilitycontinin to be a f thecharacteristic bubuildis ofof t city,y,ven as they g bigger and bigr. makehat building more part o th low slung fabric of the
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ty.. i don't think th t the singleleamily home disappears anime e so. nor ould it. much of e culturof theity habeen devoped in at way. arguably doesn't hahavehe capapity to continue to pushut furth and furer and rther. dotown andow that velops intesting noto mucin thatt will bome the nter ofos angel. is intesting beuse it i anxperimenin how t denser nteredrecinct the cit can beeveloped maybe at'a model for theay thatther cenrs in thcity cadevelop the fute.
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forearly alof itsodern history, l angelesas bee known the cenr of archectural novation but has nev extendeto the skyline. it is rd to the govnment -- it is hard to think of anyone significant high-re e in t cici. all buildings ov 1 150 ft inin ighteeded hepads. thbuildingehind me,he wihire grandis reprentative of a new shift in skyscrerer arctectctur it w wasiven a a variance, allod to h hava top th doesn't have a lilipad. w that hipadequireme has be done aw with together. we maye lookinat a new generati of towers thatre morenteresti architturall yearslos anges beme virtuly the onlmajor tyn the uned statethat
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mited e tops of ildings. lso justhe hght, butt requirinthat any buildinsixx ories taller r d to be flat the fifi department decided it woululd saferero be able to ndnd aelicicter on the roof of tall buiing in ce there was a re or r me other kind of ergency.y. never as i know, it's evever bn usused thremoval flat ro requirent was anged byhe city counc about t or thre yearago. i thk thathis sho that th city h a difrent attite tordsall budings. inhe morcentral rts of the tywe areunning o of spe. if youant tohange an gw you ha got to up rather than sprding owards. it's only logical tt people wowoul start thinking mobout wh those bldings lk like d would become more acstomed looking upwards to the psps buildldgs.
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the wilshire grandroroject reprprents the first change in mamanyecadeses of the 60's,'s t gogoinback to e 20''s or e 30's, it will be thfifirst time that there is a new bubuilng wititsomething other than flat to >> when you see these ececes o plywood, that's a whol d't t lk on them. if you do, they ara a litt bitit of a traoline. this entire project 2 2.1 millioiosquare feet. it's over $1,200,000,000 i catal ininstment. ay off t cable.
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>> this is gndndale. pasadena. we l.a.a.. lax. of course,e e are 66. ifou are on the 73 f floor there is nok, hier s spa like e at in the city. here's a helicopt f flyinbelolow us, right? you casee it right out there. it's low us. downto l.a. is designed to have 500,000 people move ianand move o o every day. that's the regur r cour off sinessss 12 mlion people, 40 million pepeopleivining ound h he can actual g get he. th can say -- hone letet's go downwn to the wilshire gra,, to the p, takakour friend and ha a glass of wine. th''the e ecomic mod, by the way. that's what the wlele prese o of this is. we are angelenos. 'm ing totoo to the top of
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that. i'gogoing havave nner t tre. that's a real economic driver. at''s whatatntertainnt destinatio a are a abobout this projecteaeally flecects exactly what's gogg on in wnwntown l.a. entertainment, really hi quality. fo, rerestaunts,s, residtial. five-star hotel. it's s at t epipiceer whehe everything ldsds. it's a perfeclolocati. >> in the fit los anleles, i before world w ii,
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thboyle hehts sectn of ea los anges just ross the river fr downtowwas real the ceer of jesh cultu in loangeles. as the sond los geles daed , thneighborod was ilated om the cy and thregion b a tane in thfreeway at was ing builall overhe regio of coue. where with a ram through neigorhohood with t intensity of the vlence th happened in ylyle heits. over timsesecondosos anges i in the postwarecade, the ololatioprovovedo be a a surprising source of strength in the nehborhood. it becaman encla of latin american and mican amecacan migrgratn. by the 70's and 80osositiv bebeme the settled neiborhood of not second but third-gerarationmmigigras andd a neighborhood with a strong sesense itstseland enengy. what that means now as money gentrificationd come, the neighborhood haseen le t to ght back against the forcesf f chan much mo efefctively than otr nehbhborhos around the region.
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the question is, wt will become of one of the sprising succs s stors ofof sond lolo angeles in ts s new ty with devepmpment ney y poing inin from all corners. one y y to awer r th queststn might be tgogo furer east, aw f from e shshinnew developments of ylyle heights, ggining neath h e surface of this placid, non-district -- nondescrip cul-de-sacs of eastern l.a.,here a new muiculturaenenergyf the third s angeles is coconstitingng itself andnd proving self in rprising waysmmune tohe flatting foes of displacement. >> if you look at a maofof boy heights, you are talking about fofour sare e mis. an area that is literay y hemm in by the construction of fee tersececng freeways in the ar.
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so, this area was litelllly aranantid by highway constrtion and urban renew in the 1950's and960's. wasne of thfirst surban redential comnities for businessn and famies w were td to thenitial velopmenof downtn los geles. time, ble heigh was wh we woulall fancy sidentl neighborod with victoria mansion the mographics were imimaril white, upper mdle class falies. probablyround e 19 tee, 192's th we began to e a shiffrom theld dowown class ofntrepreneu and milies ta more raciay and hnicallyiverse iigrant a workg-g-clas community. it was iththe 5's d 60's when you gagan toee t the massive is placement of sisidentfromom boyle heights to make way for
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thinterstion of thfive jor freays. hee ve freew, the 10 10, the 6 they all conrge upon boyl heights. part of the city's effort to get rid of slums in los angeles. for the people who did protest the coming of the freeway, it was a lost battle. there was simply no way to fight a powerful highway buildi auorityy that bulldozed its way to b boy heights. stst los angeles and boyle heheightin p parcularr emerged s the epicenter of all of the hat emergeirmant aroundhe mexican american cil ririgh movememt. it continu t to reesenent e culture in the lifofof mexan scent peoples in the unidd ates.. it's stilththe vio - -- barrio
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capital b. >> my family fir a arriv here in the92920's bebecae of t t mexican revotition. they played an acte e rolen aping it. th arrivedn the mile of burbia. where do they goo meet pple? toind communi? identy? latinos re-creeded thain t the own y. are indefining who yo isis amecan n coext. goodt to show you a explple of frorontard shrine. the way at latinos use their fronyards to exess their cuurural identity. a lot ofhehem pushririnein
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their front yards. like my housesn the surbs, itas a garagin the fnt. like t one nexdoor is ere yosee it typicly. version ofino at.. it became a part of that indoor ouoor lifeyle. hind this the one freeway. -- the 101 freeway. on the eastside it w devasted and t communi fought bac it's beenn n impoant t pa of the identity. here, turning across, decorate you had time to s t the
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transfsfmation of the space on the e easide.. >> the million-dollaququesti isis how boyle heights is goingo fair in the face of ntririfition.. right now there a a bacashh against gentrification i cities throughouthe n natn. boe heights also statained thatatacklash. right now you are sengng a kd tension in the way that the dynamics are pying out. on the one hand, it's bemingng more integrated toto the city because ofhehe extsionon o new public tnsnsit pgramams. like the met r rail. on the other hd,d, thaveryry development ispepeninghe doors for neww phase of gegentricatition as follows echpark, so follows downtown, boyle heights, and beyoyondnto ththvalley.
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follows may not be the rhtht rd. it depends on whose perspeivive you are working from. >> the san gabel valley is owining . it's willing up rhtht now thth's e next chaer. how do we accommatate th? how do we keep the qlility o lili by? -- life high? it is a transit b.b. they are going tbebe ablto verage that, just likenyny her cici. >> running is a part of ee ready.y. to be able to escape a absorb thlalandsce ararou me. . i want to hear the sound of the woworl it's pa of exploring your ndscscap i grew up in the citand of
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always stayed within t v valle ititeels like home. i am the writer and direoror of "vararty punks." i wasn't finding success by sesellg the e ories. i said -- i'veotot to oducuce one. weanted tohoot something in thlolocal ighbhborod, shshing f f the culture and involving ruing.g. the fact that it was goi t to be my hometown, presenting a lturure at iss underrepresented , i think e e vall iss completely underrepresendd in hollllood movies. i don't ev t thinke arare the radar of a lot opepeoplen l l.a >> he's beeneaeally fectctivat getting the support and the excimentnt othe community. not him ining itlonene. it's really a cmumunityomining togethero suprt his project. anhavivingun wititit. as far as the role oarartistgo the role of gentrification,
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we d''realallyave rere estate devepepers lkingng tards what rsrsity nks s ar doing. as far as whetheththey suldd invest. what they are loining foourr communities where they are lele acquiui cheap property because ofhis invemement i ththe communities. they are lkiking f opportunities toakake moy anand there are other factors. >> capital development and investment is always looki t to conqueuenew frontie. ev i if th arere o frontie that have already become conquereanand dipidadate over time they can become new frtitiers r ininvement a a over again. about is one cotatant urn lilifen genenel. i think all ofhehese cmuniniti are e ing to be affected in popositi and negive e wa by the chang we are seeing rhtht w. -- the gentrifitition
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, it's pa o of imovining places, but as long ast't'donene the thought okekeepinthee community alive. it's a differt t plac iti's my place. the city has a l of things wrg wiwitht, bututt's home. it's s ouhome..
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