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people. [ audience boos ] >> human beings, my friends, that's what he said. >> the president also questioned why romney's career as a businessman qualifies him for the white house. >> the job of a president is to lay the foundation for strong and sustainable growth. not one where they're cashing in on short term gains. it's to make sure everybody gets a share shake, a fair shot, everybody is playing by the same set of rules. >>. >> and then the president used some colorful language that's getting all kinds of attention. i know governor romney came to des moines, warned about a
prairie fire. but he left out some facts. his speech was more like a cow pie of distortion. >> maybe the president was thinking of statements from romney like this one -- >> there's no question that he is attacking capitalism, and in part i think because he doesn't understand how the free economy works. >> attacking capitalism. apparently romney didn't hear the president praising willard's own chosen field of private equity. >> there's an important role in the free market. their main goal is to create wealth for them and their investors. that's part of the american way, that's fine. >> apparently willard doesn't realize that under the president, the private sector has added jobs for 26 straight
months. a memo to romney, his fellow 1%ers are doing pretty well themselves. a new report shows that ceo pay is up 6% this year. the second straight year of increases. joining me now ed rendell, now an nbc news political analyst. and jared bernstein, a former chief economist for joe biden. thanks both of you for joining me tonight. >> governor rendell, the president is on fire here, really going on the attack. what do you make of this strategy? >> i think what the president is trying to do and the campaign is define governor romney for the american people before the campaign gets into full swing and he is choosing a great weakness. he cares more about people of
wealth than ordinary working americans. that quote that corporations are people may be taken a little out of context, but it shows the mind-set of the governor. corporations are not people. profits may go back to shareholders but they're certainly not people. and the president has every right to question the value system of bain capital. and i'm all for private equity, it did a good job for us here in wednesday, but reverend sharpton, you have to look at the amped case, they took $100 million out of the company in profits and most of those workers had their pension benefits eliminated or significantly reduced. couldn't someone have said let's take $80 million out and use $20 million to preserve pensions? that's what most ordinary
americans would favor. >> let me ask you this. the president was not only calling out romney by name is iowa, he has done it recently in speeches all over the place, let me show you. >> when you're president as opposed to the head of a private equity firm, your job is not to maximize profits. >> those of us that spend time in the real world know that the problem is not that the american people are not produngtive enough. >> why is he pedaling the same bad ideas that brought our economy to the brink of collapse. that was tried, remember? the last guy did all of this. he famously declared corporations were people. that was a cow pie of distortion. >> the "new york times" has a headline that obama takes early leap into campaign fray.
some veterans of past campaigns, particularly republicans, questioned whether it would take some of the sheen of of mr. obama's stature as president. mr. obama may look like just another office seeker. how do you respond to that? >> he can't catch a break, if he doesn't get em passioned and spirited he's too cool, but if he puts up the steam like in some of the recent talks, now he is coming on too strong. i think all of that is just noise. what really matters from the perspective of economic policy is these substantive questions that have been raised. i'm very glad from private equity is getting the look it's getting. not because it's evil or valueture capitalism or the savior of america that some would portray it as. what's really important about it, are two things that the president has stressed.
first of all, job creation is an accidental outcome of private equity. sometimes you're going to get jobs, sometimes you're going to lay people off. private equity firm does not have job creation as one of their criterion for success. and profitability, maximizing profits, even if it's layoffs, shipping jobs aboard, slashing pensions, maximizing profits is the top of the criterion. and i think the president is absolutely right to bring those into the debate when his opponent is saying this is how i trained for economic management. >> governor rendell, isn't that the reason that private equity and bain is mart of this campaign because governor romney is the one that said this is what i did that qualifies me for job creation?
>> sure, reverend you might remember they was district attorney. in course cases they say counsellor, you opened the door, now the other side can cross examine. governor rol any opened the door by using bain as one of the main rationales for why he was elected. if he said he knows how to create wealth i don't think anybody would argue with him. we're waiting to see the statistics if there was a net job creation or loss. that's never been the job of private equity to create jobs, it's to create wealth for their investors, and that's not what a president does or has to do. >> new numbers that voters believe romney is the candidate of the 1% while president obama is the candidate of the middle class. i mean, the numbers are clear. how do you think romney can counter this? and at the same time, project
his business experience. or is this a problem that is insurmountable? >> i think the only way for governor romney to do that is to convince middle class voters that his plan will help them. the problem there is the one that the president raised in one of the clips you played. if you actually look -- let's go to the policies. if you look at what governor romney is proposing, it looks like the playbook that george w. bush followed. big tax cuts for those at the top of the scale to that wealth will trickle down. a deregulatory agenda. he wants to pull back on financial reform, get rid of health care reform. if you can convince the middle class that miraculously after all of the experiments where it failed, trickle down will finally work, then maybe you
have an angle. otherwise a lot of folks will say it looks like that agenda helps the folks like you, the folks at the top. >> if i can jump in, it's even worse than that, the economic plan that governor romney offered, the budget he offered, would had $3 trillion to the debt. he is talking about a prairie fire of debt, his very economic plan adds $3 trillion to the deficit. sdm explain to me governor how the president turns this around, because the same washington poll found that romney couldn't dos hold a big lead among white, middle class voters, who are struggling fmly given the economic policies, sound like bush, givend that he adds to the debt, how does the president breakthrough to the white, working class voters. >> i think he does it two ways. he talks about the jobs bill
that republicans in congress and governor romney rejected. that would have created a lot of jobs in infrastructure growth. the other side is saying trickle down. even if it would work, it would be four or five years down the road. and he says take a look at what they want to do. they want to cut taxes on people doing extraordinarily well. they raise taxes on a lot of working folks. that doesn't make sense, it's not fair, and there's no way that will help the economy grow. you guys out there have to listen to what's going on, listen to the policies and make a judgment based on that. if we can get white working class voters to pay attention to what's being offered by each side, i think president obama has a chance to win a lot of them back. >> thank you both and have a great memorial day weekend. >> you too, reverend. >> ahead, how many times has the
gop asked this question? >> american people are still asking the question where are the jobs? >> americans want to know where are the jobs? >> their asking where the jobs are. >> but, eric canter's agenda has other ideas. wait till you see his home moe. and romney says this campaign gaffe still haunts him. >> it means if you don't like what they do, you can fire them. i like being able to fire people that provide services to me. >> okay, so he regrets it, but we're watching what he does, not what he says. and in an interview out today, donald trump fans the birther flames again claiming the president was born in kenya, and he will be fundraising with mitt romney next week. will romney go ahead with the
we're back on "politicsnation" with a look at what republicans have planned this summer. today, eric canter sent around a memo to house republicans outlining their summer agenda in this memo, here are a few highlights from their master plan. they want to extend the bush tax cuts. repeal baaeeal obama care, incr domestic energy production and reform the u.s. postal service plan. what about job creation? i thought eric canter made it clear that getting americans back to work was his top priority. >> we're either going to get serious about the number one issue, creation of jobs, or not. >> the our members will be hyper
focused on how we go about creating small business jobs. there's just not enough jobs being created for people to get back to work. >> get back to work, yet this summer is the summer of tax cuts, expanding the keystone pipeline, and repealing obama care. but the president's summer agenda is pretty clear. >> there are things we can do right now to help create jobs. we're also putting thousands of americans back to work. create jobbed. >> we're going to put more americans back to work. >> create more jobs here in the united states of america. >> joining me now is barbara lee, a democratic from california, and e.j.dionne. author of "our divided political heart" the battle for the american idea in the age of discontent.
thank you for being here tonight. congresswoman, what do you think of the gop summer agenda. >> once again their rhetoric doesn't meet the reality of what their summer agenda is. they talk about jobs, but they're summer agenda is about the same thing they have always been about, and that the is ensuring that tax cuts remain for the very wealthy, and they're not talking about how to create one job. they will not allow us to pass the president's american recovery act. i think their agenda for the summer is annize logical agenda. it's a campaign year, and they're trying to campaign, unfortunately, by hurting the american people and putting out this backwards agenda.
>> he writes that he wants them to help him plan vote on tax cuts in november. we want to prevent the largest tax increase in history. did that durable? do they have the votes to bring this to a vote? and what do democrats do? >> democrats always stood for middle class tax cuts that would help low income individuals and the working poor. the republican tea party want to make sure that the bush tax cuts are extended to the millionaires and billionaires can continue to receive the benefits they have received while continuing to increase our deficit, and make sure that we don't have an ability to create jobs, that's what the tea party republicans agenda is all about. we want to create jobs by
investing in infrastructure, making sure our health care sector moves forward, and create opportunities for all. >> in your latest book, and i'm quoting from the book, if everything that matters is at stake, then take enormous risks with the country's well-being as the house republicans did in the debt ceiling battle is no longer out of bounds. rather than pushing to the limits and beyond become a form of pay try schism. when your adversaries goals are dishonorable, it's better to win the fight and pick up the pieces later. interesting kind of statement e.j. >> it sure seems to be what happened on the debt ceiling fight, and i think you have a different kin of republican party and conservativism that
rejects things that liberal republicans used to support. i talk about people who used to be a liberal republican from new york who used to remind republicans their party was for national action to end slavery and promote civil rights and build land grant colleges. now they have rejected that. but old time conservative ths used to be in favor of basic government action. at this point they either seem to reject ideas they once held because president obama proposes them or the only thing they're interested in is tax cuts. they're not even consistent on this, he notes that mr. canter and other conservatives say we can't cut defense, but we can cut everything else and that's good for the economy. if that's economics i'll an nba
super star. >> it seems like their inextricably linked to tax cuts. let me show you this. >> tax hikes destroy jobs, especially in increase in the mag any due set for the first of the year. >> permanent tax increases on job creators does not help grow the economy. >> i mean, it seems like job creation to them is based on tax cuts, congresswoman? >> when we look at the bush era in terms of the tax cuts in the bush administration, you saw an increase in the deficit and a job loss. you saw they put us on the brung of a depression. there is no way we should go back to the bush era tax cuts.
we must create jobs, it helps reduce the deficit, but also helps allow for the american dream for all that has turned into a nightmare for so many. >> ej, when you look at what they've done, they passed protect live act, often referred to as let women die act, bans federal funds to cover any cost of any health care plan that covers abortion. small business tax cut act. mark twain coin act, an electronic duck stamp act of 2012, none of these seem like a job creating in any of that. >> bill clinton can answer when tax increases create jobs. democrats raised taxs in 1993 so we could balance the budget and so government could have enough
money to do what we government to do. and we have the best economy we have had in a very, very long time. it was one of the few periods toward the end of the clinton years where rich people were getting richer but people at the bottom were coming up too. so it's a myth that tax increases another create jobs and that tax cuts always create jobs. as you pointed out, the tax cuts of the bush era did not create such a great economy. >> congresswoman barbara lee and e.j.dionne, thank you for your time. >> ahead, they could not stop ripping president obama for high gas prices, so where is the credit now that they're falling? we could be waiting a long time. and story of the day, ten years after being falsely accused of
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welcome back, folks, i want to take a quick trip down memory lane. do you remember this year when all the right could talk about was high gas prices and how it was president obama's fault? because we weren't drilling enough, the argument then, but it was ridiculous. u.s. oil production is at an eight-year high. the number of rigs has quadrupled under president obama and the u.s. exports more oil than it imports, but the gop could not stop pinning the blame on president obama. >> when he ran for office he said he wanted to see gasoline prices go up. >> he wanted higher gas prices and he got them. >> the administrations policies are designed on purpose to bring about higher gas prices. >> it's a direct result of
obama. >> blaming the president for high gas prices was a good political move, it just wasn't true. now gas prices are going down, just in time for memorial day. that's right. as millions of people head to the beaches and bbqs this week, they won't have to pay as much at the pump. gas prices have fallen 30 cents since april. a gallon of gas cost an average of $3.67 today, about 14 cents less than last memorial day. so if it was the president's fault when gas prices went up, i guess republicans are ready to give him credit now they're down. no guys, what do you have to say? no? nothing? anybody? any one of you? i've been hearing a lot of those crickets lately. did the gop think we would not point out their empty logic?
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we're back with birther claims from donald trump that could pose major problems for willard romney. trump says three days ago in his written synopsis of his book, he said he was born in kenya, raised in indonesia, his mother never spent a day in the hospital. is it any surprise trump has tis facts wrong. he says the misidentified birthplace was done while promoting his book decades ago. the editor that let the mistake go by has taken blame for the mishap. she said this was nothing more that a fact checking error by me. there was never any information given to us by obama in any of
his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was worn in kenya and not hawaii. end of quote. but the donald is not buying it telling the daily beast he didn't know he was running for president so he told the truth. the literary agent wrote down what he said, he said he was born in kenya and raised in indonesia. that's outrageous. this tuesday, trump is hosting a las vegas fundraiser. joining me now, bob frank, and erin mcpike, national political reporter, and melika henderson, thank you all for being here tonight. >> thank you. >> erin, let me start with you,
what do you make of this? will showed up hurt romney? >> the romney campaign is not talking about it. i talked to them earlier about it today. one of the spokesmen said we dealt with this issue, they're not going to be talking about it again, but donald trump is an effective fundraiser for mitt romney. they're not going to be talking about the biter issue any more. >> bob, wouldn't the fact that he is staning there with mitt romney put the birther issue front and center since donald trump is standing there with mitt and he is today throwing this out there again. doesn't this make this an issue if they claim they dealt with it or not? it's a new issue and they're standing there with the guy that's espousing it. >> if they continue to raise questions about where barack
obama is born, perhaps it would be valid to question where mitt romney was manufactured. the fact of the matter is you have donald trump out there being the enforcer for mitt romney. if you think he is any quandary over this, you don't have the experience in politics you should have. there is always a bad guy out there, an enforcer in hockey, and we have to continue this this is a vice president audition. the problem would be whether mitt romney would accept number two on the ticket. >> that's hard to believe. >> you're crying or laughing, i couldn't tell. i mean, donald trump is in the vice presidential sweep stakes? >> i can't see that, i don't
think trump would want to be anybody's number two. that's part of why he does these things and floats these ideas because he knows it will get him ink. one of the interesting thing social security i wonder how much mrp is going to rely on donald trump going forward. they see donald trump as a cash cow, but i don't think he has any speaking for him. >> one of the romney's spokespeople today was asked about trump's latest birther line talking to andrea mitchell, let me show you the sound on that. >> he disagrees with that. >> so he'll stand up next to
donald trump. >> he will stand up and talk about why he wants to be president. >> how do you stand next to the king of birther talk, and not be questioned about it right in front of him. >> well, i think we're going to see that on tuesday. one of the things about fundraisers is the press is kept at bay and i don't know if we will get the chance to shout the --s out to him. i do think he has to walk a fine line here. i also think that this whole issue of surrogates gone while and being off script from whatever each of the began dates want -- they have been a recuring theme in this campaign and mitt romney has to be careful here. >> i'll counting on you to get in there and raise the question.
let me get to another story about romney speaking about his gaffes. he said i have a couple of those in the campaign and haunted me and i'm sure before it's over will haunt me a lot. when he was asked about specifics, he mentioned this classic. >> i like being able to fire people who provide services to me. >> melika, you followed the romney campaign, what do you make? >> he has been very gaffe prone throughout this campaign specifically in the primary. i think he was in very much a situation he had not anticipated. now that he crapped up the nomination, he has been, over the last couple weeks, on message, pretty disciplined, and he knows these gaffes will taunt him that replay these gaffes. you have the president out there
pushing back against one of those that he made about corporations being people. so democrats aren't going to let him forget even if he wants to sort of apologize and say he made mistakes. >> first of all, we can call them gaffes, i'm going to end up calling them cow pies. that seems to be a much more apt description. but the gaffes, seriously, reflect smsh that seems to be out of touch with common concerns and that thing. one can only speculate that made he has donald trump to be a sensitively counsellor or something. >> erin? >> you know, four years ago when mitt romney was campaigning for the presidency, he was not this gaffe prone. in part it was because he talked to the press every single day and spoke more about what he thought and what he wanted to do as president if he had been elected in 2008. in this campaign his staff has
hidden them and they don't want him talking, he has been rusty. in the last couple weeks we have seen him do more interviews. so part of this campaign knows he has to be out there more and speaking his mind. they will continue to call him a gaffe prone campaigner and that's not what they need. >> great panel, thanks for coming on tonight, have a great holiday weekend. ahead, brian banks spent five years in prison after being falsely accused of rape. now the former high school football star has been cleared of all charges and he joins me live to tell his emotional story. of the jeep grand cherokee has a best-in-class driving range of more than 550 miles per tank. so you can catch morning tee time in monterey and the afternoon meeting in los angeles,
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falsely accused him of kidnap and rape and he lost everything. he struck a plea deal landing him in jail. yesterday in a california courtroom, he took the first step toward getting his life back. he broke down and cried as his decade long or deal finally ended after more than five years in prison, followed by probation, and an electronic monitoring ankle bracelet and his accuser admitting he did not do it. for brian banks, the justice system finally worked but it took ten pafl years. he is one of 2,000 people we're now learning about who, since 1989 have been locked up for crimes they did not commit. like brian banks, 129 of those
people were convicted of crimes that every even happened. folks, the system does work, buzz we're getting more proof that it is also flawed. that's why we continue to stand up for justice. joining me now, brian banks and his attorney justin brooks, thank you both for being here tonight. first of congratulations on being -- >> first, let me thank you for being here and congratulations for clearing your name. did you ever think day would come? >> within the last few weeks that we have been fighting this case and this appeal, it became more clear that freedom was on the way, and it's here today, and i'm just overwhelmed. >> tell me how this happened. >> well, you know, i was blessed
to have rea facebook contact and request from the alleged victim who in her words wanted to let by gones be bygones. i wanted to let the truth out about what happened. and my objective was to have her meet me at a private investigation office where we could record our conversation and she recanted her complete statements made against me and that got the ball rolling to my freedom today. >> let me ask the attorney, she refused to come forward to authorities, but this secret tape is what led to his now clearing his name, and the california innocence project that you and others worked with needed new evidence to come in and help him, is that correct?
>> yeah. the california innocence project, the california western school of law has never taken on a case in it's history where a guy has been released from prison. we have limited resources and so many lifers that we focus on those cases. when i met with brian and i saw that videotape and brian talked to me because he was a convicted sex offender that he had a life sentence we took it on. last night we were finally able to cut this monitor off brian's ankle, and he was training to get into the nfl, and he lifts weights every day, but this was the heaviest wait. >> what went think through your head when you were finally cleared? >> so many thoughts?
i was reminded of all of the pain and suffering that i endured these last ten years, but also relieved that i'm finally a free man and the truth is actually out tooz. it was nothi -- today. >> you knew you were innocent, but you plead guilty, why? >> it wasn't necessarily a choice i wanted to make, rather a choice that i was pretty much forced into taking. i was told that i had either one or two options. i could face 41 years to life in prison, or i could plea to one count of rape, and go on a 90 day observation in chino state prison and there it would be determined if i got probation three years or six years. the lawyer at the time promised
me that if i took the plea bargain, she could guarantee they would receive no more than three years. i already had a year of time served. she said i would be young and still be able to play football and live life and, or, i could face 41 years to life, go into this courtroom and be viewed as a big black teenager and be viewed as guilty. >> that's a moral to the story in this case. that's what this case is about and what we need to talk about. plea bargains are the 95% solution. and you take a child and they have to roll the dice about dieing in prison or taking a plea offer, we know innocent people sometimes plea guilty and
that's a real problem in our system. >> how do we address that, attorney? >> well, we're really the only country in the world that uses this process to the exsense that we do. we need to take a look at our sentencing policies and we can't have them to be such a point where you don't want to risk going to trial even if you're innocent. we also need to give more resources to the defense so investigations are done prior to plea bargains. they have become almost the entire criminal justice system. what we see on tv with trials only happens in 5% of cases. so we need to have those resources early on and we can't have kids making these decisions without really good counselling. >> what's next for you? what are your dreams? >> my dreams are to play football. i have been training hard in
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the holiday weekend is here. get ready for the bbqs, beach, and relaxation. i hope everybody has a great time hanging with family and friends. let's not forget what memorial day is all about. a national day of remembrance, honoring the more than one million men and women who lost their lives fighting for the liberties that we don't enjoy elsewhere but enjoy here. on monday, president obama and the first lady will visit arlington national cemetery and place a wreath on the tom of the unknowns. they will then join the bidens
at the veet nom veteran's memorial. the federal government will partner will local governments and business to honor veet nom veterans. following a tradition since 1950, president obama issued a proclamation to unite americans in prayer for peace. whatever your politics are what we can all agree on is the love for our troops fighting over sees and for those that never made it home. through the years, different troops came back to different circumstances. some came back and did not have the same rights as those they fought for as we were reminded this year in red tails. some could not speak the english language and were told to take tests when they came home. all of them fought regardless of
inequality. they equally sacrificed and many gave their life. let's remember the greatest tribute to them is to make a country that makes what they fought for fair and equal for everybody. they fought for united and equal america. we should remember them and then we should go make that america happen. thanks for watching, i'm al sharpton, have a great holiday week. "hardball" starts right now. rebirth of a notion, birtherism is back, let's play "hardball." >> i'm michael smerconish sitting in for chris matthews. and birtherism won't