tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC June 28, 2012 1:00am-2:00am PDT
means they're saying that the government has the ability under the commerce clause to help people, and that would be a great thing. if they don't, we need to stang strongly for medicare for all. >> be sure to tune in tomorrow night. i'll be with democratic leader nancy pelosi. the "rachel maddow show" starts right now. >> that's great to hear you're going to have nancy pelosi on tomorrow. tomorrow is going to be a huge day, one of those days we live for in this business. for no doubt. >> i'll see you tomorrow. thanks for staying with us for the next hour. 13 hours from right this second, we will be reading the most eagerly anticipated supreme court decision since the conservative majority of the court decided to george b. bush the president more than a decade ago. at 10:00 a.m., the supreme court in its baroque ceremonial ostentatious way are going to do three things at once, post the health care ruling online, hand
the document to court reporters that contains the ruling, and inside the court, they will reportedly read excerpts of their ruling from the bench. all those happen all at once at 10:00 a.m. no cameras in the courtroom, but all of those things will happen at the same time at 10:00 a.m. eastern tomorrow morning. that makes today one of those eve of days in american politics. on the eve of this big decision, you can sort of tell by what republicans and democrats were doing in getting ready for the decision tomorrow. you could sort of tell at least in reading the political body language that democrats pretty much think they're going to lose tomorrow and republicans pretty much think they're going to win. at least that's what it seemed like when congressional democrats held an event at the capitol this morning that was essentially their predouble of the court's decision to remember. they have begun fund-raising off the court's as yet to be announced ruling. they started asking for donations to fight for universal
health care in the event the court strikes down the health care reform law tomorrow. that's was on the democratic side. on the republican side, the republicans sort of picked their team captain today for who will be speaking for congressional democrats in response to the ruling tomorrow. republican congresswoman cathy mcmorris rogers and tom price will be inside the supreme court tomorrow to hear the ruling, which is not the kind of thing i'm sure you plan for if you think you're getting bad news. they will then exit the court and leave the immediately response for them afterwards. john boehner had previously said there will be no spiking of the ball if it goes the republicans' way. we'll see how restrained they can be if that is the case. at the executive level, the white house went out of its way to say where the president will be when the decision comes down tomorrow morning. >> you might not be able to answer this, but do you know where the president will be when he finds out about the decision tomorrow?
i know jeremy had to find out like everyone else does. >> he'll be in the room in my office. we'll all await the decision and learn of it at the same time you do. >> whether or not jay carney was kidding, at least maybe president obama is there to watch the ruling come down on tv in his press secretary's office. the mitt romney campaign is doing a fund-raiser with donald trump tomorrow. it's another win a dinner with donald and mitt event. they scheduled that for that day. donald trump announced in a tweet yesterday, looking forward to the dine with mitt and donald this thursday, thursday as in tomorrow. the romney campaign for their part is not confirming or denying that this event is happening even though donald
whether they expect it will be upheld or struck down and millions of americans are going to lose their health insurance, either way, it's strange to think they thought it would be good messaging to put mitt romney with donald trump that day, with the birther guy again. we will see if he follows through with this planned event tomorrow. but also tomorrow, and i think it's not coincidental that it's happening tomorrow, is the day the republican controlled house is going to hold a contempt of congress vote against eric holder. a contempt vote that is based on the conservative conspiracy theory at the obama justice department conspired to secretly foment gun vile js in mexico so you would feel bad about gun violence so you wouldn't feel
bad when they got on with their plan to abolish the second amendment and take away everybody's guns. this has motivated the whole fast and furious attack on eric holder. the vote tomorrow is as far as this thing is ever going to go. there's not going to be a contempt of congress vote that goes against eric holder in the senate, and when the house recommendation knets forwards along so the attorney general can be proskited, it will be this justice department that will decide whether or not to proceed with this. those things aren't going to happen. the apex of the fast and furious thing, the last thing that is going to happen on this politically is tomorrow. and republicans have scheduled that vote for the day everybody knows is going to be supreme court health reform ruling day. they could have scheduled --
>> i never indicated that was the case. i don't know if that's the case because we don't have the documents. >> john boehner did not have to schedule the fast and furious vote tomorrow on health reform day. he did not have to schedule this vote to happen on the day it was going to be totally buried by othernies. but if like john boehner apparently, you do not believe in the conspiracy theory that it's a secret plot to get rid of the second amendment and take away everyone's guns, there's not much to this scandal. if he does not believe in that conspiracy theory, perhaps it's not a coincidence he has skeled this vote to happen on a day
where it will be overshadowed by a much bigger story. it's also getting pushed back in the right as well. today, the national review which is a hard core conservative fairly influential publication on the right ran a scathing takedown on the obsession and the conspiracy theory it was based. the theory that it was devised so even as the speaker of the house is not buying it, even as the right is getting shy about house republicans going so far with this idea, frankly, the gun lobby believes it and maybe that's all they need. the nra believes the conspiracy theory. they wake up and yell they're
coming for our guns before they open their eyes to see what room they are in and whether they're still naked, and it gun lobby being so into this is part of why the vote is going to be so overwhelming against eric holder in the house tomorrow. the nra does a report card on every election in the kumentry to say whether or not the candidates are pro gun to their soifg or not, and they have decided the vote on eric holder tomorrow on this conspiracy theory is key to how you get rated by the nra for re-election this year. and that is pretty obviously why even a handful of democrats today said they would plan to go along with the republicans on this vote. they can't afford have a bad rating by the nra, and the nra rating on this vote is about the conspiracy theory. that's hot they think fast and furious is. >> an attempt to blame the second amendment, blame american gun owners and get more gun legislation here in the united states. i mean, that sound more like a south american dictatorship than what we expect from our department of justice in the
united states of america. >> there's this cognitive dissonance in the reporting on this because republicans realize their conspiracy theory about fast and furious sounds crazy in mixed company. as they have tried to mainstream this thing, they have tried to make it sound like at least some of it could be scandal is not about the conspiracy theory at all. they have tried to create a mainstream impression what this could be about is also the federal government allowing inappropriate gun sales to go through and that itself is scandalous. it's about the government not seizing enough guns from people who are trying to buy guns in this country. if that were really the scandal here, you really think the nra would be all for it? you think the nra would be saying, oh, yeah, this is really important to us, that the federal government crack down and block more gun sales. we insist you vote on that. that would be insane. this whole scandal and this whole vote tomorrow is about the conspiracy theory that president obama purposely wanted there be
gun violence so he could steal your guns. to the extent that anybody in the mainstream media politics fell for this that there was something other than that motivating all of that, today, that all fell apart, too. the effort to mainstream this story involved sidelining the conspiracy theory and talking about how really if you don't believe the conspiracy theory, you still have to admit it was egriejs and offensive and stupid for the atf to let the gun sales go ahead. why would they purposely allow 2,000 guns to be purchased illegally and trafficked into mexico when they could have stopped them. they could have stepped in. even if you don't believe the conspiracy theory, at least you can see how wrong that is. that was the nonconspiracy theory part of this would-be scandal. today, fortune magazine blew that out of the water. the investigator reporter who is going to be joining us reviewed more than 2,000 pages of confidential documents. she interviewed people with the
it was the opposite, let's monitor the gun sales, arrest all of the people buying the guns. as atf discovered, there wasn't anything they could do because the purchase of the guns in arizona was seen by prosecutors as legal. all a buyer in arizona has to do is certify he's buy lg of the guns for himself. certify it. so in other words, you can walk into an arizona gun shop, buy1 100 guns, tell the gun shop you're buying them for yourself, then walk into the parking lot and hand them over wrorb you
and whou they're enforced in our country, the atf wasn't letting the guns walk. they were frustrated observers being blocked from stopping the gun sales they thought were nuts. that's what happened, according to this rather devastating piece of new reporter from fortune, but this vote is going to happen tomorrow in the house, and john boehner has buried it on health reform ruling day. the republican and nra case for that vote against eric holder today relies on a conspiracy theory cooked up frankly by the militia blogger who told people to break the windows of democratic office windows after health care reform passed in the first place. and why they're pursuing the vote seems to have fallen all the way apart. if you want to experience in your home an appropriate metaphor for what happened to the story in politics, what you should do is this, go to your kitchen, take your silverware drawer out of the cabinet, hold
it over your head and turn it upside down and shake it. that sharp, clattering disaster in your kitchen is an appropriate metaphor for what has just become of the fast and furious scandal in house of representatives. joining us now is the author of the article "the truth about the fast and furious scandal." thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. it's a pleasure. >> you know a lot more about this than i do. i have been covering it for a few days. can you tell me what i got wrong? >> the only thing you got wrong is i'm contributor for fortune, not forbes. and everything you said was absolutely accurate. >> that's a very humiliating thing to get wrong. i quit, i'm sorry. >> please don't. >> did agents intentionally walk guns across the border? you tell the story of one instance, one gun, or a handful of guns in that one instance being walked, but that was not part of the fast and furious program. >> no, and let's set that aside for a moment.
in the fast and furious case which was one investigation into a group of straw purchasers, there was no operational tactic by atf to walk guns. what there was was a protracted struggle to arrest kids, not even old enough to buy beer, who were obviously straw purchasers, and there was a continual struggle with prosecutors because as they interpreted the laws, the sales were legal, the francefers were legal, and the agents did not have grounds to make seizures or arrests. >> you write about sort of incredible anecdotal stories about the straw purchasers. a person low income enough to be on food stamps, nevertheless, spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on weaponry. a young unemployed person spending five figures on a 50 caliber sniper rifle on a tripod. isit illegal to be a straw purchaser, and if it is, why
didn't they get arrested? >> that's a great question. it's illegal to be a straw purchasers, but how do you make that case? prosecutors made it almost impossible to make those arrests and to seize those guns. they were continually determining in their analysis of the law that the sales and the transfers were legal. atf did not agree. there is copious evidence that atf agents demanded we want to seize these guns. we want to make these arrests, but prosecutors blocked them. we're a nation of laws. atf agents can under decide that they're going to make arrests or seize guns without prosecutors' okay. if they have asked and prosecutors have answered and the answer is no, that's it. >> is this a prosecutor scandal? were the prosecutors' decisions in these cases wild departures from the law? were they making prosecutorial discretion decisions that were wildly incompatible with what
had previously bun done or are the gun laws really, really lax. >> that's a hard time to answer and i spend a lot of time and energy in my reporting trying to determine just that. that's enormous differences in prosecution styles and prosecutorial interpretation of laws in each jurisdiction. now, dave vogt, the group's supervisor of phoenix group seven in his frustration and despair was actually writing in prosecutors in other jurisdictions. they were going as far as new york to see if they could find prosecutors who would take tease cases. and that was described in some congressional testimony by an atf agent named pete forsele. it's hard to say. i think what you have is a perfect storm of incredibly weak laws in arizona, prosecutors who did not seem particularly eager to enforce the law, and an
absolute river of iron onslaught of guns being purchased and pouring across the border. i mean, just to put this in perspective. in arizona where you have 853 licensed fire arms dealer in maricopa count ate, tliz rr a fire arms dealer who has a note on his door which says one ak-47 per customer per day. those are the limits that are peag set by responsible gun dealers. otherwise, it's perfect acceptable for an 18-year-old kid to go into a store, put down cash, and buy 50 ak-47s. >> to the bottom line here in terms of the way the mainstream media is going to cover this tomorrow. the way this is short-handed by every reputable journalistic association in the country is a wobe gone program in which agents knowingly let weapons according to your reporting, that fundamental description of
this program and therefore this scandal is untrue and people should describe as how? >> people need to describe this as a very tough effort to crack down on straw purchasers and seize guns that they were unable to do for an array of reasons. and guns therefore went across the border and reached criminals. >> katherine eban, fortune magazine reporter, investigative reporter who blew this out of the water before the vote in the house. i'm sorry for screwing up your introduction and having a kaufing fit which you have to sit through. >> thank you. >> tonight for the interview, massachusetts senate candidate elizabeth warren is here. and best new thing in the world has been dually trumpeted. we did a good thing, it ended up. it ended up being a good thing. that's coming up. time is running out to get the hottest deal on a new mattress.
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>> secret meetings with kings and queens. that seems weird. didn't make him look like a bad guy. just made him seem sort of in over his head like someone who isn't really sure about what he's doing, trying to sound the way he thinks people who are sure of what they're doing sound when they're talking about things they're sure of. his communications team waskic quick to apply a soothing ointment to that. they offered a clarification. private meetings, not secret meetings. not secret meetings with kings and queens but private meetings with kings and queens. who are those kings and queens? later on that day, another missive from the senator's office.
the second clarification, he some days i bet being a spokes person is a really bad job. so no secret meeting, no kings and queens. massachusetts democrats did not let this go. and it turns out that it's not just pure partisan pleasure they're taking in mocking senator brown for this one wrong thing he misspoke about this one time. i mean, they're definitely taking partisan pleasure because they have set their ad to "dancing queen" by abba. but they're making a factual point that was frankly missed by everybody else including me who reported on the kings and queens thing. the thing they're bringing to thefore here is that he didn't just say the kings and queens thing that one time when his office said he misspoke. scott brown says this all the time.
>> kings and queens. >> the world leaders and business leaders, kings and queens. >> the kings and queens. >> so he didn't just misspeak and say the kings and queens thing once. he says it a lot. what's that about? i would love to ask him. i would love to interview senator brown and ask him about the kings and the queens and the lot of other stuff, but the senator does not share my desire for us to speak together. senator brown's opponent in this year's big election is elizabeth warren in massachusetts. and while where wait for the call that i fear will never come from the senator himself, the woman who could be in that senate seat as of next year, elizabeth warren, will be joining us for an interview next.
this was a debate held in this year's republican presidential primary in new hampshire two days before they voted in their primary. it was sponsored by the manchester union leader furp. that same newspaper hosting the debate endorsed one of these candidates in the race, newt gingrich for the republican nomnalgz. deckically, while they were sponsoring this debate. they had a horse in the race, they had endorsed one of the candidates. nobody much cared because that's kind of a normal thing about debates. here's a debate a couple months ago in the austin, texas, mayor's race. sponsored by the austin american statesman newspaper, which endorsed the older guy on the
right there, the current mayor, the guy you just saw a second ago, him. this was a debate held in the 1994 massachusetts senate race between ted kennedy and a guy you might have heard of named mitt rom nay. that was sponsored by the boston globe and the boston herald. the boston globe endorsed ted kennedy that year. the boston herald endorsed mitt romney that year. the organizations that sponsor debates sometimes also endorse one of the candidates in the debates. it happens all the time. at every level of debating. this year in massachusetts, u.s. senator scott brown is running for re-election against elizabeth warren. before scott brown, the skeet in the senate he currently holds now was held for decades by ted kennedy. asked to participate in a debate sponsored by the edward m. kennedy institute, scott brown decided there's a new rule for debates. he said he would not participate in that kennedy institute debate if anybody associated with the kennedy institute was going to
make an endorsement in the race. now, he didn't just mean somebody who was going to be moderating the debate and asking the questions or anything like that. what republican senator scott brown insisted on rather is that the widow of ted kennedy personally be banned from making an endorsement in the senate race because she has an association with her late husband's institute. to be clear, there was never any indication she was going to be participating in the debate in any way or asking the questions or anything like that. just because she's associated with the institute named for her late husband, scott brown said he forbid her from making any endorsement in the election before the debate, after the debate, ever. all the way through to the election. scott brown's condition for accepting that debate was a personal endorsement ban on the late ted kennedy's wife. if you didn't get that, he said that debate just wouldn't be fair. when ted kennedy's widow responsed the way you think somebody would respond to something like that, scott brown said he would not participate in
the debate, but he said he would like to do a debate on a conservative talk radio show in boston hosted by a man who said he is a personal friend of scott brown and his wife. so that's where scott brown is tonight. he's having a debate on a conservative talk radio show in boston hosted by his friend. and he's having that debate alone. joining us here now without scott brown is his opponent, elizabeth warren. she was scheduled for this interview before it was clear he would be debating himself alone tonight. so the timing, this frankly is all just a fun convince dnls. thank you for being with us tonight. i appreciate it. >> thanks, it's good to be here. >> has your campaign been able to sit down with senator brown's campaign and hammer out terms for debates? normally it doesn't happen in public. it's worked out out of the spotlight? >> i don't get how this would have worked out, but after i got
the nomination three weeks ago, for the democratic nomination t run for the senate, the next monday morning, we sent an e-mail to scott brown's office and said we got a lot of vitations for debates, let's sort them out, talk them through, and let's figure out how many debates we can do, where they'll be. let's be sure we get diversity all around the state, and they said, no. in i really mean this, they called me back and said no, i said, what do you mean, no? they said no, they won't talk about it. they won't even talk about the debates. so then scott brown's campaign manager started accepting some debates like this one you just mentioned. and refusing others, and so the whole thing has been three weeks of kind of this public thing over debates. including the business around the kennedy institute. and including now two regional
debates, one in worster and one in new bedford that would involve important issues and he's said, no, not doing them. that's where we are. we have four television debates which i think is good, but it took a lot of effort to get them there, and i really genuinely wish we had more because there are a lot of issues we should be talking about. i genuinely wish we were going to be in central mass in and southern mass, and i think it's a mistake not to do that, but i think it's hard to debate alone. so there we are. >> scott brown attempted it tonight on his friend's radio show. and we listened in on the interview, and one of the things he said, he made some news, do we have the sound? we have the sound of this. he was asked about the vote -- due to happen tomorrow in the house about attorney general eric holder. he called for eric holder's resignation. listen. >> attorney general holder, you
can't effectively serve the president anymore. and for the best interest of the country, i feel he should step down and resign. and it's really -- he's lost the confidence of the american people. >> this is the first time i believe that scott brown has called for the attorney general to resign. what's your response to that and what's your take on that same issue? >> you know, just one more politician. i mean, this is really all about politics and playing this game in washington. and the republicans think they've got something here, and he's just seeing if he can turn up the temperature on it. i think this is why people get disgusted by politics. i think this is why people say, i don't want anything to do with it. you know, i go around the commonwealth here in massachusetts and i meet with people, big groups of people, i ask, how many people in here are another out of work or have someone in your family, someone you love, care about, who is out of work. someone you know. hands go up all over the room. there were three jobs bills last fall, three jobs bills that
would have supported jobs here in the commonwealth of massachusetts. scott brown voted against all three of them. we should be talking about that. we should be talking about why that happens. not playing political games. we should be talking upt how kids are going to pay for college education. we should talk about accountability on wall street and whether or not jpmorgan and the kind of practices it still engages in put our economy at risk. there's really serious stuff on the table. and that's what it is we should be talking about. >> right now, in massachusetts, home sales are up. they're up for five straight months now. they're up 35% over this time last year. is massachusetts into a solid recovery, and what is the most urgent federal policy matter that would help massachusetts further? >> well, home sales are up, but foreclosures are also up. there are a lot of people who are under water on their mortgages here in massachusetts.
we had 47,000 people who have lost their homes since the beginning of the crisis in 2008. i look at it this way. massachusetts is recovering better than much of the rest of the country. and that's partly because we have made a lot of investments. in our people here in massachusetts. and trying to keep our in infrastructure going so businesses can flourish and trying to help our kids get educated, but we can't do this alone. the country is in trouble and massachusetts still has a lot of work to do on the jobs front, on the education front. on the infrastructure front. there's a lot we have to do here. >> in terms of national politics right now and the way that your candidacy has captured the imagination of a lot of progressives around the country, liberals have been excited about your cand daenls, about the way you have talked about some economic issues, fairless on the
tax code and things like that. one of the things everybody is on their seats about is what the supreme court is going to do tomorrow. it seems like the republicans think the supreme court is going to strike down health care reform and democrats seem to be worried that is going to happen. do you have a prediction, and how do you think the country should greet the potential striking down of health reform? what should we do next if that's what the supreme court does tomorrow? >> no, i don't have a prediction. i don't know what they'll do tomorrow. i have my own view that based on the legal precedence, it's clear that the affordable care act is constitutional. but whether or not five justices in the supreme court will decide that that's the case, i don't know. you know, i want to use this, we're going to have to see what happens on affordable care before we figure out what the right thing to do is by way of response. but we need to use this moment to reflect on the importance of the supreme court and who sits on the supreme court.
it's not so long ago that we had the citizens united poib and saw just this week see it reenforced that the same five justices are saying, hey, corporate interests can just take the electoral process by the throat and squeeze as hard as they want. you know, the supreme court is wading into really deep waters and they're doing it in ways that are -- i think that worries all, and it's a reminder that who sits in the united states senate to review those nominations to vote on those nominations, really does matter. and so i think this is -- it will be about the affordable care act tomorrow, but it will also be about the supreme court tomorrow. >> elizabeth warren, there democratic candidate for senate in massachusetts. thank you for being with us tonight and good luck working out the debate schedule with your opponent. i appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> all right. scott brown, anytime.
in november, most of the smart money says president obama should win new mexico with relative ease. but eight years ago in 2004 when george w. bush was running for re-election, new mexico was a battle ground. as part of the republican effort of 2004 to win that swing state, then vice president dick cheney scheduled a big speech in albuquerque just a few months before election day. the point was to encourage them to come out and hear their president's message. you had to jump through one strange hoop. in order to get a ticket to attend that dick cheney event, you first had to sign a loyalty oath. an oath of loyalty not to the united states of america, but to george w. bush. the oath read, i, full name, do hereby endorse george w. bush
for re-election of the united states. the grammatically challenged form warned anyone who signed the pledge they were consenting to use and release your name by bush/cheney as an endorsing of president bush. what if you didn't want to sign it? what if you just wanted to hear what your vice president said? too bad. a couple months later in 2004 at a republican event in florida, a party official asked everybody in attendance to stand, raise their right hands, and recite a pledge of allegiance to george w. bush, not to the country but to that one person. in this loyalty oath, they were told to say i care about freedom and liberty, i care about my family, i care for my country. because i care, i promise to work hard to re-elect george w. bush. what do you think if democrats asked them to stand and pledge allegiance to barack obama. after the bush/cheney team left
perhaps the most striking one of these was reported a few days ago in massachusetts, where the state republican party has frankly seemed a little flummoxed about what to do with all the ron paul supporters who took over their massachusetts delegation to the national republican convention. i mean, yeah, massachusetts may be mitt romney's home state, but the ron paul folks took that delegation over, just as easily as they took it over in minnesota and nevada and iowa and all the other places they have done that this year. the ron paul takeover in massachusetts kind of ruined republican party plans. i mean, they were really excited to have one of their own as the party's presidential nominee. the state's republican leaders in massachusetts wanted to send, as their delegation, this big group of big shots and candidates and former elected officials, on to tampa, cheering on the former massachusetts governor, mitt romney. but those plans went all pear shaped when it came time to actually choose the massachusetts delegates. because it was the ron paul disciples that actually showed up and did the work and got the votes and won the slots.
so what's the massachusetts' republican party to do? how can they replace these ron paul revolution no-good-nicks with real republicans? two words -- loyalty oaths. for the first time ever, they distributed affidavits demands that they swear under penalty of perjury that they would support mitt romney's presidential nomination. take that, ron paul supporters! sure enough, the tactic worked. some of these delegates were so horrified at what the state party was asking them to do that they said no. and that was how the state republican party cut some of the ron paul folks out of the state delegation, by using a pledge of allegiance to mitt romney. according to the "boston globe," but no time like the present, right? yeah, so you young people who decided to get engaged in public
affairs for the first time, you may have gone through the legitimate process and worked hard and got the votes and earned a slot on your state's delegation convention, but you weren't what the party had in mind. so loyalty oath. pledge allegiance to the dear leader or get out of the way for those who will. it's inspiring, right? time is running out to get the hottest deal on a new mattress. sleep train's 4th of july sale is ending soon. right now, save on sleep train's most popular posturepedic and beautyrest mattress sets.
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