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these same ideas. and he's got, i think president clinton called it, "the brass" to call it change. now let me tell you, we know what change looks like. we know what change looks like and what governor romney is selling ain't it. it's definitely not change. ruling out compromise by pledging the rubber stamp, the tea party folks in congress, that's not change. >> changing the facts that aren't convenient to your
campaign, that's not change. that's old. that's the washington that needs to change. now, virginia, after four years as president, you know me. you know me. so, so, when you're trying to sort through this argument about change, you know, part of what you have to ask yourself is who do you trust? you know, when you're talking about the economy and policy that's so critical, you've got to trust. michelle doesn't agree with every decision i've made. there may be times when you're frustrated at the pace of change. i am frustrated sometimes with the pace of change. but you know i mean what i say. and i say what i mean.
you know what i believe. you know where i stand. when i said we'd end the war in iraq, we ended it. when i said we'd pass health departmentcare reform, we passed it. when i said we'd repeal don't ask, don't tell, we repealed it. you know i tell the truth. and, most importantly, you know i will fight for you and your families every single day as hard as i know how. so let me tell you. i know what real change looks like. i've faugt for it. i've got the scars to prove it. and you have, too. and after all we've been through together, we can't give up on it now. that's why i'm running for a second term. that's why i need your vote.
now, let me describe very briefly. i know folks are cold, but let me describe. what am i talking asht when i'm talking about forward? what do i mean by real change? change is a country where every american has a shot at a great education. government alone can't do that. students, you've got to study. don't tell me that hiring more teachers woent let our economy grow. don't tell me that stunts who can't afford college should just borrow money from their parents. that wasn't an option for me, that wasn't an option for bill clinton. i bet it's not an option for a lot of you. that's why i want to cut the growth of tuition in half over the next 10 years.
that's why i want to recruit a hundred thousand math and science teachers so we don't fall behind the rest of the world. that's why i want to change 2 million americans in community colleges. that's real change. i want us to live up to this country's legacy. we're not just building cars again, we're building better cars. cars that by the middle of the next decade will go twice as far on a gallon of gas. that kind of innovation, that kind of forward-thinking, we don't have to restrict it just to the auto-industry. i want to bring it back on all kinds of things. we've got thousands of workers building wind turbines all across the country.
profits, when they're making money hand-over-fist, i want to support energy jobs of tomorrow which will cut oil costs in half, help our environment and our national growth. i want to reward companies that are creating those jobs in virginia. that's the future i see to this country. as long as i'm commander in chief,we'll pursue our energies with the strongest military the world has ever known. and virginia carries more than its load when i comes to defending this country. and we are grateful to this state. but we also understand to be strong, it's time to use some of the savings from winding down two wars to pay down our debt and rebuild america. fixing roads, putting folks back to work, rebuilding our bridges and making sure our schools are
state-of-the-art. that's es speshlt le important for our veterans. we want to put them to work. that's my commitment to them. that's what's at stake in this election. and president clinton talked about it. we've got to reduce our deficit. i've got a trillion dollars worth of spending and we can do more. we're not just using it in tv ads and once you get in office, like dick cheney said, it doesn't matter. and then we have to ask the wealthiest americans to go back to the tax rates that they paid when president clinton was in office. and the reason is because budgets are about choices. as long as i'm president, i'm
not going to turn in another voucher just to pay for another millionaire's tax cut. so, virginia, we know what change is. we know what the future requires. we know, also, that it won't be easy. i warned some of you. maybe you weren't believing me. i said real change isn't just about changing presidents or changing parties. it's about changing our politics. we've been shut out of democracy for too long. the protectors, the guardians of the status quo. and that status quo in washington has fought us every step of the way in the last four years. they spent millions of dollars from preventing us from reforming health care and wall street.
they have had a strategy and gridlock in congress refusing to compromise on ideas that, in the past, more democrats and republicans have supported. and what they're counting on now, you're going to be so warn out, so weary of what goes on in capital hill, that you're just going to give up and walk away. just put him back in power or let him stay there. in other words, their bet is on cynicism. but, virginia, my bet is on you. my bet is on you and the decency and the good sense of the american people. it's not a part san bet i'm making. when the american people are with me, i'm right there and happy about it.
i would have less grey hair if they're ready to go. we have some of the greatest american republican senators work with us to repeal "don't ask, don't tell." we celebrated them. i'll work with anybody of any party to move this country forward. you'll vote for leaders like tim kaine who feel the same way. people, leaders who will put people first and put the election aside for a moment. but we're still going to have some fights. because there's some values that are at stake. there's some principles we've got to fight for. you know, if the price of peace in washington is cutting deal that is will kick students off of financial aid or letting
insurance companies discriminate people with preexisting conditions or eliminate health care for millions of americans who are elderly or poor, i'm not buying that. that's not a price i'm willing to pay. that's not bipartisanship, that's not change. that's surrender to the same status quo that has hurt middle class families for way too long. i'm here and i'm running for a second term because i'm not ready to give up that fight. i'm not ready to give up on that fight and i hope you aren't either. you know, the folks here don't need another champion in washington. regardless of who's president, they'll find a way to have their voices heard.
the people who i read as champion are the men and women i meet on the campaign trail every day. the laid off furniture worker who is having to retrain at the age of 55 for a new career and a new industry. she needs a champion. the restaurant who has great food, he needs a champion. the cooks and the wait staff and the cleaning staff working overtime in some vegas hotel trying to save enough to send their kids to college, they need a champion. now he's back on the job filled with pride and dignity, not just because he's building a great car, but because he knows he's building america, he needs a champion.
not always getting the support you need, but knowing every day she's touching that one child and something is going to breakthrough, she needs a champion. all of those kids in the valleys of ohio, in these rolling virginia hills, kids dream of become doctors or scientists or businessmen or even a president, they need a champion in washington because they don't have lobby iszs. the future never has lobbyists. but if there are dreams of those children that will be our saving grace. that's why i need you, virginia, to make sure their voices are heard. to make sure your voices are heard.
we have come too far to let our hearts grow faint. now is the time to keep pushing forward. educate all of our kids. train all of our workers, create new jobs, rebuild our infrastructure, discover new sources of energy. no matter what your last name is or who you love, you can make it in america if you try. virginia, that's why i'm asking for your volt. you know, i was backstage with david pluck. some of you guys know, he's sort of a master-mind to a campaign
organization. as the campaign goes on, we become less relevant. >> but the power is not with us anymore. out of everything we do, it doesn't matter because now it's all up to you. it's up to somebody knocking on a door. it's up to somebody making a phone call and talking to nar mom or dad or wife or husband or grandma or grandpa and that's how democracy is supposed to be. it's up to you. you've got the power.
that's why i need you, virginia. don't get tired. don't get weary. if you want to knock on some doors with me and make some phone calls for me, grab some friends for me, turn out to vote for me, we'll win, virginia. we'll win this election. we'll finish what we started. we'll reaffirm the spirit that makes the united states of america the greatest nation on ert. god bless you. god bless the united states of america. >> one of several trying to snap up the last-minute undecided voters who are still out there.
nbc correspondent is traveling with the president and joins us on the phone from tonight's rally. mike, i've got to tell you, thousands of people looks like waited out in the cold to hear the president tonight. >> you've got to believe it's cold out here, too, melissa. i'm not going to hard ard gens because they get so volatile these days, how big is the rally, but there were several thousand who came out here a fair distance from washington and the northern virginia suburbs to listen to the president's fourth rally of the day. >> he will spend the night at the white house and then it's right back out tomorrow morning on the plane and visiting more states. he had bill clinton, as he saw, warm up for him. i swear, melissa, if i close my
eyes, you hear that horse bill clinton. you would think it was 92 or 96. both kacandidates, the presiden and mit romney, not leaving anything to chance. it's all about the motivation now and the turn out. and the president certainly had a huge turn out. >> i agree with you. president clinton's voice sounded positively raw. i'm surprised the president doesn't sound about the same because they're working so hard. tell us what we can expect for the next two days? >> a frenzy. president obama is going to be sending him back out on the trail. he'll go to new hampshire tomorrow as well as st. cloud, minnesota. some people think it's significant now wondering if he has somehow crept into a place where romney could conceivably knock it off.
tomorrow, the president, as i said, early in the morning, he's going to new hampshire and florida. a place where he hasn't been a great deal lately, es spishlly when you compare it to ohio -- >> we unforchew fatly have to wrap it up. we do have to go. but we'll hear more from you in the next couple of days. we will go back to the show after a quick break. [ chuckles ] ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] around view monitor with bird's-eye view. nice work. [ male announcer ] introducing the all-new nissan pathfinder. it's our most innovative pathfinder ever. nissan. innovation that excites. ♪ to volunteer to help those in need. when a twinge of back pain surprises him. morning starts in high spirits, but there's a growing pain in his lower back.
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>> welcome back to "the ed show." speaking to a crowd in west chester ohio. kasik and other conservatives, they're living basically in a state of denial. they are casting aside every poll and trying to create this nar tef out there that they are just in great shape in the buckeye state. yet, the latest polling tells a different story. the president leads in ohio by 6 points. it will be pretty tough for mitt romney to make up that kind of ground in the final days. you wouldn't know it by listening to the right wingers. >> mitt romney will win ohio and is going to win ohio easily. >> holy smokes, meanwhile, carl rove is acting like mitt romney has got the whole thing wrapped up. >> for the president to have wiped out his victory margin by a poor performance in the early
voting and the republicans are going to take an election day, boeds well for an election day in ohio. i think ohio is going to be a squeaker. let's turn to professor and public policy. well, mop the floor on that one. in the last ten day, 17,000 people have been polled in ohio. the president has a lead that's outside the margin of error on those combined surveys. he's in a very strong position. if you look at that early voting, it's working out very well for democrats. you were right in the earlier segment. there is no question that the auto-industry is lethal in ohio. that story was told during the
summer, the bane story was told in the summer. by the way, he didn't write that headline, let detroit go brupt. but he then adopted it. >> is there a motivational pitch to make people feel good about the fact that they're still this thing in ohio? and could it be as close as he's saying it's going to be? >> i think nationally you're going to see some more movement towards the president. but he does have this belief that if you say you're going to win, then you're likely to win. the difficulty with that is that even he's getting scared.
>> here's president obama earlier talking about trust. here it is. >> when you elect a president, you don't know what kind of emergencies may happen. you don't know what problems he or she may deal with. but you do want to be able to your president. >> the word trust has been the narrative for the obama campaign for the last month. talking about can you trust what he says, can you trust what he's going to do. but most of all, it's the storm that's helped out the president, as well,because it's given him an opportunity to show how he can be an executive to develop the trust that he's talking about, to the point where chris christie is one of his best surrogates. people look at the president and the guy who handled this
hurricane and they look at the guy who said, even if people didn't agree with him, so that you can trust him. he won't give him any specifics, won't tell them what his tax plan is going to do. is he setting up the alibi? >> oh, sure. he had this big prediction in 2000 that bush was going to win by a huge margin, 340, 350 electoral votes. i forget the exact number. after the election, he said oh, no, it was the drunk driving thing that derailed us and made that election so close. wh it took the story away from medicare and social security. >> bob, how concerned are you about all of the shenanigans that's been played out by the
republicans in ohio suppressing the vote. the long lines that your campaign with senator kerry experience in 2004. >> you're right about 2004. if you're a college student or an african american, you sometime haves to wait eight or ten hours to vote. >> it's great to have you with us. from long lines to power outages, facing obstacles to to the voting booth. then, former president bill clinton, does it get any better than this? this guy has really worked overtime to help president obama and the campaign.
it is the final few days of early voting in the state of ohio. some voters face another issue. power outages. the effects are being felt as far west as cleveland. and crucial to win the buckeye state. nine counties are currently without power as the cleveland plain dealer reports, locations for more than a dozen others can't be reached by telephone. yet, local election officials are confident voting on election day will go as planned. we are working dell jagently to make sure they're up and running. and we've been assured that by monday night, we should have power in all locations. so what happens if the power is not restored? >> people can still vote even if
it's by a flashlight. >> i am joined tonight by nina turner. senator, great to have you with us tonight. there's a few hurdles that have to be done for president obama to have to take this state. earlier tonight, john hustead was asked about the c controversial new software installed in some counties. >> the reporting system and the actual accounting system are not connected in anyway. and the results that someone is going to get on their computer, they'll have them the same time i do. >> senator, what do you make of that? is the subscription transparent? >> certainly, there are a lot of activists that are concerned about that. what i will say is that they should not be experimenting in a presidential election. the secretary of state had years -- previous years to try to experiment. so there is some concern there, the fact that this experiment is taking place in 44 counties and we cannot take our eyes off the
prize. other folks are working on this. we're continuing to work it. the man throws up so much, it's hard to keep up with it. . s.o.s. used to stand for secretary of state. but here in ohio, s.o.s. stands for secretary of suppression. >> right now, we're at 85%. that's a pretty good rate. and we think that the number could actually be smaller than it was the last time. >> senator, your thoughts? >> of course he's not concerned. this secretary of state has taken a cavalier attitude when it comes to other folks' right and ability to vote. i'm not surprised that he's cool, calm and collected about it. we do have those last three days.
folks were out in forsz today in ohio. i was down the board of elections with them. about 3100 people voted today. mothers, fathers, children, out in the cold. they were excited. it was electric. and then to have stevie wonder come by. we are ready in cuyahoga county. he is the secretary of suppression, make no mistake about it. >> senator, what about flashlights and paper ballots? does that kind of contingency plan inspire confidence? these are somewhat a primitive back-up system. are they in place and do you believe they can be affordable? >> i'm happy to report there are only three polling places without electricity. i am confident because she is confident that they will be restored. here in cuyahoga county, we already use paper ballots.
so whether or not the electricity is there or not, jane platen is the confident professional and i trust her judgment. >> senator, you're giving us some new information here tonight. there are 17 locations the board has been unable to reach by telephone with 14 of those in cleveland. you're saying that is a remedy? >> i talked to director james platen tonight. but she says all but three in greater cleveland. in cleveland proper itself, every single polling location has its electricity restored. we will be ready, ed, on election day. >> is president obama going to win the state of ohio? >> he is going to win it. they talked about the use of the word revenge. but all of us get caught up from time-to-time.
the president has heart sole agreement. we know that the president has heart-soul agreement. we are going to deliver the state of ohio for president barack obama. >> ohio state's senator, nina turner. great to have you with us. before i let you go, tomorrow, his soles to the poles, is that correct? >> this is a big deal. from 1 to 5:00 p.m., we fought sunday to get back in. the churches are ready to rock and roll. >> still to come, president clinton has been an e effective surrogate. could he have an effect on downed ballot races, as well? and the romney campaign thinks they have a shot in wisconsin,
president obama and katie perry are trying to do something like that. we'll take you to the badger's state ahead. but, first thrks is the ed show coming to you live from the heart of democracy plaza in new york city. stay with us. we'll be right back. donut. chips, chips! [ female announcer ] silence those tempting thoughts with new light & fit greek. its creamy thick texture helps satisfy you. and at 80 calories it's the lightest greek yogurt with fruit. new light & fit greek. be light and fit and satisfied.
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hours, his mes sajt was very clear. >> i know the only criticism that was publicly voiced came from michael brown who was the head of fema when katrina struck. and he criticized the president for being too quick to respond to his tragedy. i say bring it on. >> and he wasn't afraid to hammer the romney campaign over their continued use of the completely misleading jeep ad in the way that only bill clinton can do. >> when i was a kid and i caught caught with my hand in the cookie jar, i sort of shrugged my shoulders, my face got red and i took my hand out of the cookie char. this guy gets caught with his hand in the cookie jar, he digs down and gets more cookies. i actually increased the ad on an ad they knew was false because they think you're dumb. i think you're smart.
and i think barack obama will be the next president. >> new york times 538 blogs shows president obama added virginia by less than one point. pthd clinton's appeal with white, southern voters could be the final push the president needs in the state of virginia. let's bring in the managing editor. i've never seen a former president be so effective. i don't know how i'll be able to point to bill clinton saying this is one of the major reasons that president obama was reelected, if it happens. >> absolutely. he's definitely the mvp surrogate, right, next to michelle obama. bill clinton, nothing beats having a former president to affirm you, especially a guy like bill clinton who's a walking advertisement for a strong economy. >> why is he doing it? >> you know, i think part of it is that his legacy is, in a sense, tied to barack obama's. a lot of what barack obama is
saying is let's go back to the clinton rates on taxes. there's an affirmation on him getting reelected. and then, of course, they did bring their two sort of political power house families together with the hiring of hillary clinton. into the cabinet of barack obama. if you want to take the most cynical view of it, if hillary clinton wants to run in 2016, what better way to serve that up and set that up. >> we've got some huge loyalty. some markers are going to be able to be able to be called in on this deal. look, i think president clinton not only has he done the job for president obama, but the work that he's doing for on the downed ballot is just amazing. do you think he can swing some races. >> i think absolutely. if you look at where i'm seeing him pop it into my inbox. you know, small mechanics like val dennigs nobody knows about it he's out there working on those races in palm beach county in florida.
you've got voters who are older. voters who are mainly white. clinton is critical. i believe clinton if he says this is a good die. he's a value day tor. >> that's one of those places where people split tickets. >> president obama is not going to lose the state of minnesota. i can speak with a little bit of authority and credibility on that one. so president clinton is going to minnesota tomorrow. he's going to be there to try to defeat michelle bachmann in supporting a guy named jim graves. this is a guy who came from a very humble background. he's a very successful businessman. joy, if the republicans wanted to get somebody to run, this is the kind of guy that they'd go after. what kind of effect can bill clinton have on a high-profile tea party? >> carl, think about what you just said.
this candidate is a perfect clinton democrat. he's the perfect d-democrat. he's somebody that michelle obama softens supporters. whether it's women and her more extreme positions on issues. or republicans. there are a lot of republicans who look fondly on bill clinton. if clinton is validating this other guy, he might be my kind of democrat. >> great to have you with us tonight. thanks so much for joining us. coming up, katie perry helps president obama get out the vote in wisconsin. ruth khanna will join us and get an update on voting in the badger state. stay state of the unioned, this is "the ed show" live from democracy plaza in new york city. [ man ] ring ring... progresso
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welcome back to "the ed show." and in the big finish tonight, mitt romney is in big trouble in ohio so he really needs to win wisconsin. tonight president obama is ahead in the polls. today wisconsin become a hot campaign spot for both candidates. vice president biden talked to the voters at the red mug coffee shop in superior wisconsin, but he got up staged in milwaukee. katy perry performed some of her hit songs at the crowded rally before president obama spoke. she asked everybody there to donate to the red cross. she made this offer to encourage people to vote. >> if you're over 18, and you've got some real cool outfit you're going to wear on tuesday, you tweet that to me and i'll retweet you. because i'm going to pull out for sure as well. >> president obama didn't talk fashion.
>> wisconsin, after four years as president, you know me. and so, so, you know -- you know me. you've watched me age before your eyes. and you may not agree with every decision i've made. sometimes you may have been frustrated by the pace of change, but you know where i stand. you know what i believe. you know i mean what i say. and i say what i mean. >> we are joined tonight by wisconsin state senator lena taylor. also with us this evening ruth conif. senator tailor does the state of wisconsin know president obama better than they do mitt romney
and does that make a difference? >> we definitely know him and we believe that honesty and trust is important. we can depend on what he says and he has followed through with that and the people have been turning out for him in great numbers, in early voting. record numbers, better than in 2008. >> ruth, what do you see on the ground as far as early voting? how enthusiastic is it? >> well, it's interesting because as senator taylor knows the republicans in our state legislature curtailed our early voting and yet there are 5,000 more early votes in milwaukee. so the president is doing very well with the early voting and the enthusiasm is very very high. >> what about katy perry? could her performance and appearance and support of wearing a "forward" dress obviously supporting president obama, i mean it doesn't get any
more support on that on stage. could this really motivate young voters to go for the president? >> listen, there is no question that it motivates young voters. our motto in wisconsin is also "forward" so we loved that dress. i'm like don't you have any other pictures of the rally and of course the only one they had was her in her dress. people were excited. >> ruth, you've got katy perry this evening and now bruce springsteen is going to be in madison on monday. is the campaign worried or are they just making sure? >> i don't think they're worried, the mar ket law school poll has him up by 8 points in wisconsin. i think it's a nice way to close your campaign having tens and thousands of people cheering for the president these days. i think that's why he's here for those great video clips. >> senator, why hasn't paul ryan delivered wisconsin in the polls?
the polling has never been favorable for the romney camp and i think we can come to the conclusion just 50 hours away from election day that paul ryan doesn't seem to have had a big impact, if any, on the state of wisconsin. what do you make of that? >> i recall when he first is chose paul ryan. the question was how did we feel about it. one of the things i said we were excited, those of us in wisconsin, for one reason or another. from the democrat's perspective because we knew that paul ryan really does not connect with the values of wisconsin. and him willing to some say put grandmother over on the cliff with a voucher system in medicare does not play well, not just in wisconsin but even in his own district. so clearly wisconsin is going to go for president obama. he's protecting his relationship here, showing us that we matter and we've showed him that we care about him and we're going to show up for him. >> ruth, the president's
campaign has had a running theme for months on end, very consistent about being the advocate and the fighter for the middle class. there was quite a middle class fight in wisconsin over the last two years. are those workers there with the president? is this what's going to put the president over the top? >> i think there's no question that wisconsin progressivism is going to be a key ingredient in this election and that the president is speaking very directly to wisconsin progressives and when he says sometimes you're a little disappointed by the face of change but you know where i stand and you know i'm with you, i think that's a message that resonates and that this election is about these values, protecting the middle class, people's jobs, labor rights, versus a very awe steer, brutal vision. and i think that does make a difference in wisconsin. people are attuned to that and they're really motivated. senator taylor, are you concerned that governor walker might have some dirty tricks? >> we need to work on making
sure we have our attention on intimidation, voter suppression, those are the kinds of issues we've seen the republicans do here consistently. so those are concerns. i don't suggest that they aren't. but people didn't vote governor walker in last time because of his policies. they voted him in mostly because they didn't agree with recalls. so i don't expect that he will be able to influence people's ability to get out to vote because we're going to stop them and i don't think he's going to change people's opinions on president obama. >> and quickly, senator, will president obama the president win wisconsin? >> i feel very confident that he will win wisconsin. it means we're going to get up and do what we need to do. that's why people went out to early vote. we're going to take other people to the polls and get it done. >> state senator lena taylor and also ruth conniff. and that is "the ed show" and