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straight ahead. on chuck's show. have a great day. a major moment in the fight for immigration reform as the senate sends a bill with bipartisan backing to the house. but what will republican leaders there do with it? will the bill even get a vote unless a majority of republicans say okay? meantime, president obama continues his week-long tour of africa. arriving today in south africa where former president nelson mandela's condition remains critical and crowds celebrate and pray for the iconic leader. back at home, first it was senator mccaskill. then senator gillibrand. now it's top democrat nancy pelosi pushing the idea of hillary clinton making another bid for the white house. what does this wave of well wishing tell us this early on?
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good morning from washington. it's june 28, 2013. this is "the daily rundown." in for chuck todd, who's traveling with president obama in africa. first, the big news on capitol hill. the senate has approved the most significant reform for the most imcombination loss in a generation. now it's over to the house. with all 100 senators present and voting from their desk and vice president joe biden presiding, the senate passed a comprehensive immigration bill. undocumented students watching in the senate chamber cheered the vote. >> yes, we can! yes, we can! >> sergeant at arms will restore order in the gallery. >> after the vote, republican members of the gang of eight urged the house to consider the bill. >> my father had someone actually phonetically write on a little piece of paper the words
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"i am looking for work." he men rised those words. those were literally the first words he learned to speak in engli english. >> to our friends in the house, we ask for your consideration and we stand ready to sit down and negotiate with you. >> to our friends in the house, i understand you may have a different approach. speak with your voice. speak in a way that you feel comfortable. just don't ignore the issue, that's all i ask. >> house republican leaders are making it clear they plan to ignore the senate bill. nbc's kelly o'donnell is live on capitol hill. capping a busy week. okay, kelly, there's one question at this point. what are the path, available to house speaker john boehner going forward? and which one, if any of them, does he take? >> well, for some perspective, now that the actual move to the house, think of it this way. the last time congress dealt with immigration reform, some of the youngest members of the house were in kinder gua kinder.
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so their entire lives, this issue has been percolating. it's important for the house to do its own work. each committee that has a responsibility is working on yipds. you'll probably see more things that deal with interior enforcement, meaning if people overstay visas or work situations with things called e-verify. those things will be to the forefront, along with border security. speaker bainer is saying he wants a majority of republicans to be on board and, in part, that make as eventual bill, if ones pa, have some ownership for republicans too. we never saw that with the health care law. that's had so much citel is attached to it in part because they didn't have their fingerprints and their ownership on it. so we'll see what happens. it will be a longer fight but the house wants to have a sense of authorship on this. not just taking the senate's plan and voting on it. >> i want to follow up, because john boehner has made it clear he wants the majority of the --
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to support any immigration legislation. i know we're only 15 hours removed from the senate vote. any sense that commitment is wavering at all among house republican leaders? >> i think this one test will be this week ahead with the recess for the july 4th period when members will be home. this is fresh on the minds of the voters. especially people who turn out at things like town hall meetings and local parades. is there something blowing in the wind, a sense of how republicans will vote. so much don't have a reason in their own districts to change their minds on immigration. but could there be a movement? they hope there is that sort of national conversation that creates more pressure and also the demographic sense in the country, looking to try to get on the right side of history as
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the country changes. we had one big victory in the senate side in terms of them accomplishing something. and now we've got to see how does the country feel? that's always a good gauge. >> a great point, kelly o'donnell, i hope you get some rest this weekend. gosh knows you've earned it. now to an nbc news exclusive. retired marine general james cartwright, the former vice chairman of the chiefs staff, has been notified he's the target a justice department criminal investigation into the leak of a covert soocyber attac. an investigation president demanded last year. nbc news correspondent michael i isokof joins me. what have you learned? i know you've been on it. where does it stand today? >> where we stand today is we have a very high profile target.
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what was really the most politically sensitive and closely watched of all these justice department leaked probes. this was one that went very close to the white house. in fact, there were a lot of very nervous people in the white house who retained counsel, who were getting questions about their contacts with david sanger of the "new york times" who broke the story about the stuxnet computer virus. the initial demands came from charges among republicans last year that this whole story was leaked by people, senior people, to sold of bolster president obama's national security credentials during the campaign, that this made him look forceful that he used this new form of sign warfare to disable the iranian nuclear program. i've spoke to a lot of people
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involved in this investigation. late last year, lawyers got word that the probe was moving away from the white house and into another building. that building turned out to be the pentagon, where general cartwright was vice chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. he was, by the way, very close to president. so this does go, in some ways, into the white house. he was one of the top advisers. he's now the target. he hasn't been charged, but he's clearly in the justice department's crosshairs right now. >> thank you. turning now to our friday daily rundown roundup of all things 2016. this week's historic developments on same-sex marriage, voting rights and immigration set the stage for the coming 2016 fight. it's coming sooner than you think. vice president joe biden voted for doma when he served in the senate and neither barack obama nor hillary clinton supported gay marriage during the 2008 presidential campaign.
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but if it wasn't already clear after this week, it definitely should be. support for same-sex marriage is an absolute prerequisite for anyone who wants a chance at the 2016 nomination. clinton who announced her support for gay marriage in march, welcomed the decision with her husband former president bill clinton saying, recognizes that discrimination against any group holds us back in an effort to form a more perfect union. in his audio series, the vice president, whose unscripted announcement a year ago that he was in favor of gay marriage pushed the president to announce his support days later, related the story of a gay friend and adviser whose marriage will now be recognized. >> americans are way ahead of their political leadership now. now we can look each other in the eye and say we're on the road to absolute fairness and equity. >> but though wednesday's
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rulings are further proof that oppose the right of gay people to marry is increasingly a losing political proposition, for republicans eyeing the 2016 race the issue on gay marriage is complicated. christie blasted the court's decision. >> i don't think the ruling was appropriate. i think it was wrong. i thought that justice kennedy's opinion in many respects was incredibly insulting. he basically said the only reason to pass that bill was to demean people. that's a heck of a thing to say about bill clinton and the republican congress back in the '90s. >> here with me now, nbc news deputy political editor. let's talk about first of all the sort of broad movement in the country. it's remarkable. we said in the opening that hillary clinton and barack obama -- they didn't support it till 2012, gay marriage.
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>> that's right. bill clinton, the person who signed it into law, and coming out with his wife saying that, you know, this is something that is akin to civil rights. so you have seen a major shift. but, you know, color us skeptical that politicians would move with the public opinion but that is what happens. i think democrats, you know, in supporting civil unions back in -- way back in 2008, you know, they thought that was one way that they could walk this line and say to gay rights advocates, look, we're on your side, but we just can't win if we're pro-gay marriage. now that's all changed. >> the thing that's important, we showed the numbers, nbc/"wall street journal" poll, 30% in 2004 favored same sex marriage. the number in those numbers. republicans remain. they remain opposed. and that's why it's such a tough nut for many people looking at the presidential race to crack.
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here's what moreco rubio had to say. this is about immigration but it's the same problem. you have conservatives. conservatives want one thing. the center of the country seems to be moving in a very different direction. let's play this rubio bite and talk more broadly about that. >> they love to focus on the politic, of all this. for me, this isn't about catering to any group for political gain. it would have been a lot easier to sit back, vote against any proposal and give speeches about how i would have done it differently. finally, this is certainly not about gaining support for future office. >> okay, everything is about some positioning at some level. this is the line. rubio, rand paul, on immigration, on same sex marriage. how do they -- you can't win the general election, right, till you win the republican primary for president. how do they do both? >> i think that line that rubio
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had in talking about, you know, it could have been easier for me to sit back and say how i would have done it differently seeps to be a little bit a shot at rand paul. >> cruz too -- >> i don't know if he's going to run for president. >> good point. >> i think you'll see rand paul and rubio potentially squaring off and you can see this debate on a stage we'll pay attention to. so i think that is a very difficult thing. i think he thought he could sell it to conservatives. he's tired of it and he's getting flack from the right. in that same speech, talk about all the things that are untruths in the bill and be a truth teller. >> he's having to do that and he'll continue to have to do it no matter where the bill goes. happy friday, thank you. up next, the house call, the fight to become the majority in congress. and we're keeping our eye on the courtroom in florida where the george zimmerman trial continues today. our legal team is standing by and we will bring you new news
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as it happens. plus, president obama is en route to south africa where nelson mandela remains hospitalized in critical condition. we'll go live to pretoria coming up. first, a look ahead at today's politics planner. that's frank singing "chicago." chicago blackhawks victory parade 11:30. tough break for natalie. daily rundown boston native. boy, that hurts. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. (announcer) at scottrade, our clients trade and invest exactly how they want. with scottrade's online banking, i get one view of my bank and brokerage accounts with one login... to easily move my money when i need to. plus, when i call my local scottrade office, i can talk to someone who knows how i trade. because i don't trade like everybody. i trade like me. i'm with scottrade.
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at first glance, flipping 17 seats out of 435 doesn't seem
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all that hard. that's how many seats the democrats need to gain to retake control of the house next year. but with nearly 400 of those seats essentially locked in for their respective parties, that task become,s a whole lot tougher. republicans hold a 234 to 201 seat majority. if democrats can gain an additional 17 seats, they go up to 217. that goes up to an uphill climb. 17 seats will be more than double the eight they picked up during president obama's successful re-election last november. what's more, redistricting has limited the number of seats to a handful. just 31 seats, less than 8% of the total house are in play. says there are just 29. in fact, stu rothenburg points out that with the field so narrow and democrats having to defend a large number of senate seats that could prove difficult
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to hold, then net change in the senate could be larger than the net change in the house. if it happens, it will be only the third time in the past 150 years it happened. with me now to talk about it, democratic congresswoman donna edwards. and north carolina republican congressman patrick mchenry, vice chair of the nrcc's recruitment effort. i want to start not on this but on immigration just because it's so in the news. congressman, i want to start with you. we heard lindsey graham, marco rubio, all republicans saying we urge the house to act. we need the house to act. we and the party need to pass house immigration reform. are you listening? >> we are. leader cantor with mccarthy put out a joint statement about a month ago saying the house will act as the house will, on individual pieces of immigration
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reform. and will do so before we adjourn in august. in fact, we have a conference meeting planned for the week we come back. a week after july 4th. we're going to take on immigration but in a way that comports with our member's needs and wishes and desires. >> congresswoman, how much -- do democrats -- are democrats ready to play ball on a house plan that we believe, based on what we know now, will not be certainly not a facsimile but not that similar to a house senate plan. working with house republicans to find some common ground as we saw to a certain extent going on with the senate? >> i think that all depends with house republicans really put on the table. if it's penalty ridden that callings the ability to both protect our borders, secure our borders, making sure we protect workers in this country and that we provide a legitimate pathway
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to citizenship, that's kind of one thing. i think the senate has actually done that. i don't understand, for example, why the house can't simply bring the senate bill up for a vote. it passed with a strong majority in the senate. it should be able to pass with a strong majority in the house. >> look, gosh knows we're going to be talking more about this, so i want to move to the politics not of immigration but of 2014. both of you are charged with recruiting candidates. let's look at where these targets are. let's start with this is a map of republican targets. now, these are districts that democrats currently hold that a republican presidential candidate has won in the last three election cycles. we were not going to go through all these congressman. i'm nerd enough that i would like to. i want to pick one. jim matheson in utah. this district is incredibly
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republican. it was redrawn after 2010 to get him. republicans nominated an african-american mayor in saratoga springs, utah. she lost that race. she's looking to run again. if matheson hasn't lost yet, why does he lose now? >> barack obama. the best effort we have for candidate recruiting is this president and this president's policies. they've seen what a liberal president will do and how that will matter in a midterm is that gym matheson has to defend the president of his party. and the fact is that -- >> did they have to do that in 2012? >> sure, but this is a first-time candidate. she learned a lot of lessons. she has an enhanced and better team. she announced at the state convention to great reviews. she's got a great opportunity here when she loses by less than 1,000 votes. you add that with david rouser in north carolina running against mike mcintyre. those are two great recruits.
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they're running. they learned some important lessons. in a presidential midterm, the six-year itch, it's going to benefit them. >> i want to -- let me, if i can, because weem had a wonderful graphics team build these great democratic targets graphic. thank you for your patience. now this is the potential targets. these are districts held by republicans that president obama won. again, i sort of feel like we've gone over this ground many times. in the past, i've spent a lot of time with this. what gives you belief that some of these places that the district in and around seattle is a district that supports obama but it's also voted for dave reichert multiple times. why now does he learn, midterm, of a democratic president?
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>> the strength of the recruits and the strength of their stories. we're recruiting candidates who really do have strong stories themselves. they're problem solvers. they're not actually mired in partisan politics. there are 17 districts that were won by president obama that are held by republicans. those are prime targets. i have to say to my colleague the reality is in those two districts jim matheson runs independently. he runs the strength of his district. he works his district. i don't think anybody would say he's the top ally of the president. he wins his district as a democrat. >> i did a little math. i was no math major in college, that's why i did this. 17 seats. 7 seats that the last three republican presidents have won. that adds up to 24. there are 435 seats in the house.
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redistricting largely over the last two decades has protected incumbents. this is true for both of your parties. have controlled lines in states and drawn districts that protect both parties. is that a good or a bad thing for democracy? for representation? and for get things done in the house? i'll ask you both. >> this is not -- redistricting is not a new phenomenon. to say that suddenly this becomes a problem is really just a matter of partisan perspective. >> has it gone too far -- i say this for both parties. in protecting of incumbents to the detriment of competitiveness nationally. >> if you see states that redraw lines in order to have more republican districts. you have to have less republican districts. in north carolina for instance. likewise in illinois. if you're a republican in illinois, you say redistricting is a bad thing because democrats drew the line. likewise in carolina, democrats
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said it was an awful thing because republicans drew lines for the first time. >> i want to say something different. i do think we have a real challenge in this country to make sure that we really do have districts that represent the interests of people there. i am not entirely happy with the way that these lines have been drawn because i think it's about citizens and about voters. i think there's a lot we could do there. this is a map we have and it's the map we're going to run. >> i urge voting along the line. thank you both. more for who the game changing recruits are and whether they're actually going to run, check out jessica taylor's latest report on our website, we're keeping our eyes on the florida courtroom where the george zimmerman trial continues. today could be the day trayvon martin's martins take the stand.
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right now in sanford, florida, prosecutors continue to present their case in the george zimmerman second degree murder trial. this comes after one of the state's key witnesses rachel jeantel completed two days kwf of questioning. lisa, don't know if you've slept in the last couple of days because i've seen you on television constantly. tell me what we can expect today. >> i've been watching this trial very closely. i find it fascinating.
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today we expect more prosecution witnesses. primarily people from this gated community. so many of them heard something, saw something. no one saw the entire event. but the prosecution is building their case bit by bit. yesterday for example, there was a witness, jennifer lawer, who said she heard what sounded like shoes on a pavement, scuffling, movement on the grass, yelps. another witness selma maura said she saw zimmerman standing over martin after the shooting. the prosecution says he was the aggressor and each of these witnesses adds a little something to that. >> very quickly, on rachel jeantel, i watched a lot of the testimony. a fascinating witness. what do you make of how the jury -- or can you make anything of what the jury took from her? >> i tell you, on social media, on twitter page, opposed
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opinions. some people feel strongly she was a credible witness. others feel that she has no credibility at all. i come down somewhere in the middle. probably because i'm a trial lawyer and i'm used to people having to concede some things on cross examination. that's very normal. this is a young woman who stuck to her story that trayvon martin was followed by george zimmerman. >> lisa bloom, thank you. a programming note. tonight at 10:00 p.m. on msnbc, there will be special coverage of the george zimmerman trial. at this hour, president obama is on his way to south africa where large crowds have gathered waiting for word about the health of former south african president nelson mandela. we'll go live to the hospital in pretoria. plus, maryland congressman chris van holland joins us as the fight over immigration moves to the house. you're watching "the daily r rundown" only on msnbc.
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the vigil continues in south africa where nelson mandela is said to be in critical but stable condition. president obama arrives there for his first visit in seven years. the president said he's not sure if he will visit president mandela in the hospital. he didn't want to disturb his family. the two have met once before in 2005 when nelson mandela was in washington and president was then a freshman senator from illinois. obama said thursday he considers mandela a, quote, personal hero. what's the latest? busy day there. >> reporter: hi, chris, good morning. mandela's condition is still critical. but as you say he is stable and you may be able to see some of the crowds behind me. they are still very optimistic, hoping after the news that he is doing better than he was and
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news from his family that he is respo responding. as you say, president obama has aboard the air force one in senegal and has gone back during the flight to talk to reporters because of this talk that there is a possibility that he might meet else in nelson mandela. the first lady and her children have met nelson mandela in 2011 but president obama has never met else in be mandela as president before. he said on the plane we'll see what the situation will land. i don't need a photo op. the last thing i want is to be intrusive. >> on the heels of the senate's bipartisan vote on immigration, the house is under pressure to pass the bill asap. speaker boehner made it clear that's not happening.
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the house is not going to take up and vote on what are the senate passes. and for any legislation including the conference report, ton pass the house, it's going to have to be a bill that has the support of a majority of the numbers. >> joining me now, chris van hollen. you heard speaker boehner. is that possible, getting what we've seen, is it possible the immigration bill will come to the floor with the majority of the conference? >> the the good news yesterday is a big biimportant bill came out of the united states senate. 68 votes for comprehensive immigration reform. the bad news, in the speaker's comments, is really in two places. he's not going to take up the bipartisan bill. i think we'd get at least 18
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republican votes in the house. we could get this important legislation done today. he said he won't do that. what's worse is he said anything that came out of a conference committee down the road would only be brought up for a vote in the house if a majority of the republicans supported it. and right now i don't see how that configuration passes. the majority of the republicans in the house are against any path towards eventual citizenship. >> the critique i've heard is there is a concern among house republicans that by scircumven circumventing what they call normal order, a bill going through committee, then voted on the house floor, then going to conference committee, that the president more interested in sort of scoring political points in negotiation than actually getting a bill. why not let it wind its way
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through the legislative process on the house side? >> the president has been very careful not to get involved in politics on this issue. to make sure he doesn't do anything that might disrun the the process. now it's really important that the house do its work. if the house is not going to take up the senate bill, it should move very quickly to pass its own legislation and get to conference. so what was most disturbing about the speaker's comments was that out of the conference committee, very specifically, he said he would not allow the people's house to work its will. he would only allow something to come out of conference committee if it had the support of a majority of republicans. that's anti-democratic. i'm afraid that could doom the prospects of immigration reform. no one's giving up yet. i still think there's great hope. but that was not a promising statement. >> congressman van hollen, you know politics and policy.
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as well as anyone in that chamber. in your expert opinion, do we or do we not get an immigration reform bill through the house? >> well, you mean a comprehensive immigration reform that looks something like the senate? >> yes, sir. >> that was put in some jeopardy by the speaker yesterday. i still think it's 50/50. i'm not trying to duck the question. i think it's 50/50. that's the good news. the bad news is a couple months ago, i thought the momentum was clearly in favor of it. i would have said 65%, 70% chance of getting it done. so i think we're at 50/50. the speaker's comments and the house republican's statements, you know, are taking us in the wrong direction. this is going to require the country to respond. people throughout the country are going to have to say now is the time to address this broken immigration system. and let's get moving. >> maryland's chris van hollen, thank you. >> thank you. our gaggle joins us next and
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the bottom on here is the supreme court has upheld the health care case. they've said that it can't be upheld. under the commerce clause, the individual mandate can't. >> that is today's flashback. that's the one and only pete williams reporting the supreme court's decision on the president's health care law one year ago today. moving on to the gaggle. governor rick perry is accusing senate senator wendy dams of hijacking the process after the
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democrat successfully filibustered. he also had this to say about davis. >> who are we to say that children born into the worst of circumstances can't grow to live successful lives? in fact, even the woman who filibustered the senate the other day was born into difficult circumstances. she's the daughter of a single woman. she was a teenage mother herself. she manage to eventually graduate from harvard law school and serve in a texas senate. it's just unfortunate that she hasn't learned from her own example that every life must be given a chance to realize its full potential and that every life matters. >> let's bring in our gaggle. democratic strategist and former spokesman for at dccc doug fornel. and matty dopler.
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thank you,all. doug, let's start with you. this has gotten a huge amount of attention. the thing i always wondered is where does wendy davis go from here? >> she made herself a hero to the pro-choice movement. listening to governor perry's comments, this guy constantly reminds us he seems to be born with a cowboy boot in his mouth. it happened on the presidential campaign. republicans are having a hard time talking about the choice issue. i think these comments don't really help. i don't think women want to be lectured to by men politicians about what they should and shouldn't do with their bodies. >> i want to play something. wendy davis was on "morning joe" this morning. let's play a little bit of what she had to say in response to governor perry. we'll come back and talk about it. >> i would say to him that i had the privilege of making a choice about the path i chose for my life. and i'm so proud of my daughters.
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but i could never for a moment put myself in the shoes of another woman confronting a difficult personal choice. and it really isn't for him to make statements like that. >> so, matty, a lot of back and forth here. i always wonder about this. are we talking about wendy davis and rick perry in six weeks or six months or is this a brief moment in time? >> i think that, you know, as doug alluded to, republicans are saying inelegant things about abortion and they need to work on that. i think perry's comments are indicative of that. remember, we have a governor's race in texas to look forward to. we'll see if we're talking about that in that context. i think this is, again, a parochial conversation happening that probably won't be replicated across the nation. >> you've done a great job of reporting how the states contribute to the national
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dialogue. ohio just last night passed a pretty restrictive abortion rights law. wisconsin has something in the state legislature. if not -- i agree with you, texas alone. but is this a broader conversation we're going to have? you've seen a panplea of abortion restrictions since 2010. is this a conversation that helps republicans? >> i think it's a conversation democrats want to have. i think what we saw in 2012 was the culture war was being waged by the democrats. this is a conversation that it used to be republicans wanted to have. they were the ones gaining up their base with abortion and marriage. i think it's a conversation the party responds to and the pod rat voters in the middle see as a distraction. part of what becomes an effective tool is accusing the other side of bringing it up when they should focus on other things. >> i want to get to this point. emily's list, it's a big --
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group supports abortion rights. they have a website, stand behind wendy davis, getting money, signatures. do democrats run the risk -- clearly, it certainly seems, if you look at polling, it certainly seems like a fight democrats would like to have. but do democrats run the risk of politicizing this and sort of stepping over that line? >> let's remember, the house a couple weeks ago, you know, voted on a bill to restrict abortion. you had the judiciary committee, all men, who kicked that bill out of committee. we're seeing across the country republicans passing, you know, restrictive choice bills. so the idea that democrats are pushing this, i think in some ways we're responding and we're doing a better job of owning the message but a lot of this is republicans are pushing forward these anti-choice pieces of legislation and what are democrats supposed to do, just roll over? >> let me jump in. it seems as though many people in the republican party are saying focus the economy.
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>> right. >> and yet you do have, to doug's point, there are still elements within the republican party who believe deeply in abortion, traditional marriage between a man and a woman. how do you fuse between a man and a woman. party without a base isn't a party so what do you do? ? >> talking about health care you heard it's about making sure we have an environment that's safe for women. that's puzzling for me about the texas bill it was trying to hold abortion clinics to the same standards as surgical procedures having doctors overlooking the practice. that is an issue of health care. we have one of our great democrat patients saying abortion should be safe, legal. >> bill clinton said safe legal and rare because he didn't want to be beaten over the head with he's a liberal reactionary.
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is there language that republicans can come up with now, molly, that is similarly sort of speaking to the center of the country while not abandoning their beliefs? >> they need help. >> they need a smart consultant like maddy without putting a cowboy boot in their mouths. you notice that democrats want to talk about women's health, they want to talk about planned parenthood. they don't want to use the word abortion. when you have someone like rick perry turning this into a personal attack on woman's choices that disstrakts from the issue. >> we'll be back. never fear. how many of the supreme court cases this term came down to a 5-4 ruling? the answer, 23. that includes this week's rulings on doma and proposition 8. there were 78 case this is term, that means nearly 30% of them were decided which a one-vote
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