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recognize it has less influence. point two, the u.s. needs to exert pressure to make sure this outcome happens. that seems like what we face here as we watch the countdown toward the ultimatum tomorrow morning. egyptian activist here with me at the table. thank you both. that's "all in" for this evening. the "rachel maddow show" starts right now. thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. there's a lot going on in the news right now, there's a lot going on in our show this hour. to egypt in a few minutes. we're going to get to the surprise republican sneak attack in north carolina tonight. which nobody saw coming. and which launched late in the day and took everybody by surprise. we're going to get to our interview tonight with texas senator wendy davis. she's here live. there's lots to get to.
we start tonight with an unexpected turn in republican politics in our country. there are basically two different kinds of embarrassing when it comes to politicians. i mean, beyond physically embarrassing. remember when gary bower was flipping pancakes at a candidates event? catch -- oh -- there he goes. beyond the physically embarrassing moments which can honestly, you know, happen to everybody. politicians are, you know, immune. beyond the physically embarrassing moments, there are really two categories of embarrassing. two categories of i don't want to be seen with that guy when it comes to politicians and the united states. the first one is the temperamentally embarrassing politician. the buffoon. the inappropriate time, tone and tenor.
right? the kind of politician where the local news about the state's governor has to come with a warning for children and for people who are easily icked out. >> we're about to put on screen what the governor said in response and some of our viewers who may find it distasteful may want to hit the mute button and turn away for the second 20 seconds or so. the governor told the reporters senator jackson claims to be for the people but he's the first one to give it to the people without providing vaseline. when he was asked if he realized some people may find that comment offensive, he's reported to have said, good, it ought to because i've been taking it for two years. >> that's an embarrassing politician. that's paul lepage, republican governor of maine who hops right from the vaseline invective into the nazi stuff. remember after he compared the government last year, there was jewish groups in maine who asked for an apology. here's how he responded to their call for an apology. this is amazing.
i had read these comments before but i had never before heard them. listen to him. >> you've been criticized for the comments equating the irs with gestapo and the anti-defamation league has said that sort of betrays insensitivity. >> if it shows insensitivity, i would apologize to them. what i'm trying to say is the holocaust was a horrific crime against humanity, and frankly i would never want to see that repeated. maybe the irs is not quite as bad yet. >> that's how he apologized for equating the irs to the gestapo. they're okay. about to be like the holocaust. but not yet. see. i'm sorry. paul lepage is embarrassing. after investigating reporting on the lobbyists, paul lepage responded by banning the whole state government from talking to three of the largest newspapers in maine. a blanket no comment on all matters from the entire government. just trying to stop newspapering in his state. so after that, and after the nazi stuff, after telling the naacp to kiss his butt, that was
his exact phrase, after saying estrogen links chemicals in baby bottles aren't harmful because they just give women little beards. also remember his theory that windmills are a conspiracy. windmills secretly have little motors inside them that make them spin. yet paul lepage, the republican governor of maine is an embarrassment. he's just a disaster pr-wise. right? even the state republicans think that paul lepage is a disaster. the assistant leader in the state senate for the republicans just wrote this op-ped lamenting the unfortunate tone being set by our chief executive. his use of vulgarity and school yard taunts. says, as a lifelong proud republican overjoyed to see a republican elected back into the blaine house three years ago, i have one thing to say, i am embarrassed, end quote. republican governor paul lepage is embarrassing even to the republicans in his own state. you know who's doing a fund-raiser for paul lepage right now, right this second in maine? jeb bush.
oh, god, shame of what it takes to run for president. thanks to the longtime bush family estate in kennebunkport, maine, jeb bush has ties to maine and seems to be trying to run for president. today jeb bush has to go wrap this gestapo vaseline abitros around his neck forever. poor jeb bush. that's one kind of embarrassing when it comes to american politicians. the other kind of embarrassing is less about style and more about substance. it's about policy that is embarrassing. this one's a little slipperier. while calling people nazis is a timeless embarrassment, policy embarrassments like, say, mandating forced vaginal ultrasounds for the women in your state, when it's against doctors orders, that kind of things starts off embarrassing, engenders national ridicule and protests at your state capitol and people across the country start calling you governor ultrasound. when it's a policy matter, sometimes the embarrassment
wears off. since governor ultrasound bob mcdonnell became more famous for forced ultrasounds in virginia than anything else about his governorship, since that probably cost him his shot at the vice presidential spot on the mitt romney ticket, since then, forced ultrasounds have just stopped embarrassing white guy republican governors. since bob mcdonnell, we have forced ultrasound bills signed into law from republican governor scott walker in wisconsin, and republican governor mike pence in indiana, and just this weekend, the republican governor john kasich of ohio. forcing women to have ultrasounds against their will, primarily vaginal ultrasounds against their will, even against their doctor's will, that used to be a really embarrassing thing for republican politicians. but not anymore, i guess. they're all sort of just going for it now. so stylistic temperamental tacky outlandishness in a politician. that is a timeless embarrassment. the vaseline thing, the nazi thing, it's never going to be okay. policy outlandishness, on the
other hand, fades in and out with the boundaries of propriety in the two political parties. sometimes it's very embarrassing to be governor ultrasound. sometimes, hey, it's what everybody's doing. what's happening right now in republican politics, a big deal republican politician, a national figure is crossing over from just being a shock to the conscience guy on policy to also just being kind of paul lepage. just being plain personally shocking as a guy. this is a path that is not well trod, but bob mcdonnell doing his best. virginia's republican governor used to be, yeah, okay, a little out there on policy, a little extreme as a social conservative. but, geez, personally, great manners. generally a respectable guy. he looks the part. look at that square jaw. look at that hairline. he's definitely not a paul lepage embarrassing to be seen with problem, right?
not this handsome guy. used to be. but now did you hear about the stretch hummer limo thing? the stretch hummer limo is the latest thing in the bob mcdonnell story. the latest thing that he and his family reportedly took as part of what he thinks he is entitled to take because he is governor of virginia. every day it's a new thing. but here's what has been reported so far. this is just what he has not denied. the stretch hummer limo that he took, it was white. he took rides in a stretch hummer limo from his daughter's church wedding to the reception, two hours or so worth of rides for all the wedding guests in the stretch hummer. also, a ferrari. a loaner ferrari for bob mcdonnell to drive. apparently it was also right. $10,000 oscar de la renta jacket for the wife. a designer dress. a liver cleansing gastrointestinal cleanse product. yeah. i don't know. vitamins for bob mcdonnell's dog. he took dog vitamins. body wash. a wedding dress for the
governor's daughter. a chicken dinner for the wedding that cost $15,000. for the record, we do not know if this was the exact chicken preparation from the dinner. this is for your reference only. also he took deodorant on the taxpayers dime. energy drinks that are called boost. i've never had one. an engraved $6,000 rolex watch. a stay at a lakeside virginia vacation home. breath freshening strips. dry cleaning for the mcdonnell children's clothing. sunscreen. nasal spray. something the "washington post" called sleep inducing elixirs. also cash. what the "washington post" described today as tens of thousands of dollars of payments to the mcdonnell family. that is at least a partial list of things that the republican governor of virginia, bob mcdonnell, has either reportedly charged to the taxpayers of virginia by just taking them from the executive mansion, even
after he was warned that he's supposed to pay for his own body wash, himself. he's either taken the stuff for himself and his family and charged the taxpayers of virginia for it, or he has taken the stuff as gifts since he has been governor. some of those gifts disclosed and some of them not. and this is on top of the allegations from the former executive chef at the governor's mansion who has produced a whole other list of things he says the mcdonnell family took for their own use from the mansion at taxpayers' expense. things like pots and pans that were taken out of the mansion and given away. pots and pans. liquor. the chef who was under indictment for embezzlement gets his day in court next week on july 8th. mark that day on your calendar. we'll hear more from the chef then. meanwhile, a state prosecutor continues to investigate governor mcdonnell's reporting
of the gifts he has received. and a federal grand jury has convened in his case to investigate, we think, not just the gifts, but whether or not the governor gave anything back in exchange for those gifts. just take the rolex as an example. the "times dispatch" in richmond, virginia, see that right there? that is the rolex in question. they say one of their reporters noticed last january he was wearing this really nice new rolex and asked him about it. "during a january 2012 interview with the "times dispatch" governor mcdonnell was asked about the rolex watch on his wrist. the governor responded that it was a christmas gift from his wife." it was not a christmas gift from his wife. it was apparently a gift from this man, well, no, sorry, from the man who owns the company that makes the little pill that's in the little bottle that governor mcdonnell's holding there.
the man who owns the company that makes a magic tobacco-based anti-inflammatory pill which the company really wants the governor of virginia and the state of virginia to get behind. there's the governor holding the pill. according to reporting in the "washington post," governor mcdonnell's wife noticed that the maker of that magic pill was wearing a very nice rolex, himself. when she noticed his watch, she suggested to him that he should buy a similar one that she could give to her husband. the guy who owns the magic pill company went ahead and bought the rolex she was asking for and he had reason to. he had just enough time to say, yes, i'll buy you that $6,000 rolex for the governor before he walked into the meeting that the governor's wife had just set up for him to pitch his magic tobacco pill to be virginia's secretary of health. look at this. the first lady's proposal about the watch occurred moments
before the meeting she had arranged for him with a stop state health official to pitch the benefits of the company's health products. this company is now the subject of a federal securities investigation. but that summer, that was the company that gave bob mcdonnell and/or his wife the louis vuitton handbag, the designer dress, $10,000 suede coat, ferrari loan, $15,000 dinner, and cash payments of some indeterminate amount and also the rolex engraved. the 71st governor of virginia was the engraving. classy, right? all of those gifts from that one company to the governor and/or his family. and the company in turn got a launch party for their magic tobacco pill held at the governor's mansion with the governor there helping them launch it. also, the first lady traveling to their event touting the magic tobacco pill as first lady of virginia giving her testimony on its behalf. also a one-on-one meeting between the head of the company
and somebody from the virginia state secretary of health and human resources office. they had him meet with the rolex guy at the governor's mansion at the request of the first family. and then the guy from the company delivered the rolex to the governor. and then governor mcdonnell told the papers it was a gift from my wife? for christmas? now with the federal grand jury and the state prosecutor investigating, in the midst of daily revelations of other stuff, other stuff bob mcdonnell and his family took for free but did not disclose as gifts like the latest, the stretch hummer limo. in the midst of his daily humiliation in the state of virginia, one virginia state senator is calling on governor bob mcdonnell to resign the governorship. he says the substance of these reports give the strong possession your family was materially and systemically benefited by this person and his company. in return it appears you allowed this person to use the
governor's mansion and the governor's office for the purpose of giving unique credibility to his company. the letter then says if the governor cannot clear this matter up, he should resign. governor mcdonnell's beleaguered spokesman has responded to this letter today with a slap saying this blatantly political statement from senator peterson was not unexpected. the spokesman then went on to say, the governor has been diligent over the years in making his financial disclosures. actually governor mcdonnell still hasn't even disclosed the watch. the rules say he has to disclose any gift over 50 bucks. you know? that rolex was over 6,000 bucks and he still hasn't disclosed that he got it as a gift and he's not talking about it and this probably cannot go on like this for very much longer, can it? joining us is senator chap peterson of virginia. a democrat. he represents central and western fairfax. senator peterson, thank you very much for being with us tonight. >> good evening, rachel. thank you for having me. >> you are the first lawmaker in virginia to call for governor mcdonnell to resign, frankly we've been covering this story for a long time and i thought we
would have heard these calls earlier. you're the first. i have to ask you if it springs from any kind of bad blood or personal animosity between you and governor mcdonnell. >> no. exactly the opposite. i actually -- i like the governor. he's a friend. we played basketball together. we've been in bible studies together. i -- i have great regard for him as a person. and no, there's no personal animosity. i think my position is as a virginian, we just can't tolerate this type of conduct and i'm asking the governor to come forward and either explain it and if he can't explain it, he needs to step aside. there's no personal animosity. it's really about the state of virginia and what's best. >> is it the overall weight of the allegation, the long list of things he has been -- he has allegedly received in his capacity as governor that bothers you. the overall accumulation of all of these allegations. or is it something in particular that you're particularly
bothered by? >> you know, rachel, i have three daughters so when i heard about the $15,000 spent on the wedding reception, that kind of took me aback. there was a lot of joking about it and i guess people thought maybe this was a one-time thing, maybe there's an explanation. as the weeks have gone by and the days have gone by and just one incident after another, one item after another, it's just been an accumulation and there's been no explanation from the governor. and the burden's on him to say what's going on? and hiding behind no comment, that's not working. the people of virginia deserve better. so i would say in response to your question, it's an accumulation. >> you know, he has -- he has not been a particularly evasive public servant as governor on a lot of other matters including a lot of other controversies. in his tenure, he has been willing to talk publicly.
he does weekly radio shows. he's taken a lot of questions. he's not a guy who previously has hidden behind people around him. the repeated no comments on this, and no explanations on this, i have also found surprising in departure from his previous behavior. there are these ongoing investigations. a federal investigation and a state investigation. is there a case to be made that he shouldn't do anything and maybe he shouldn't comment at all until those investigations are resolved? >> rachel, i would say those vases won't be resolved until the case is tried in front of the jury, if he's indicted, and i'm not assuming he will be. frankly, i hope he won't be. he has an obligation to the citizens now to explain what's happened. i mean, all of these items, all of these stories coming out, all of us as public officials have to come forward and show we're honest, that we're fair. and when these stories come out and when they're not denied, when they're not rebutted, that frankly casts a shadow over all of us in the general assembly and most of us like myself, we're part timers. this is not our profession. we do this because we believe in it. and separate and apart from the governor's legal status, he has an obligation to tell the citizens that he's making decisions that are in the best interest of the commonwealth and not those that are financially beneficial to himself. >> senator chuck petersen of
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planned parenthood has four centers in the state. none of them comply. out of business. nobody told us that in committee. i was very alarmed about the information, myself. that crowd is going to descend on you when you get back down here is going to know it. it's an attack on these facilities that offer women's health care for women. things that they need. >> after that warning tonight from democratic state senator martin nesbitt, north carolina senate republicans went ahead and voted to advance this prize bill that, again, nobody saw coming. the legislature is going to come back tomorrow morning in north carolina for a possible final vote before the bill will then go over to the north carolina house. we're going to post a link to the live feed tomorrow on our blog if you want to watch that action in the north carolina senate. again, tonight, north carolina was just completely surprised by what senate republicans did on abortion rights.
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once republicans were in charge, tom delay decided he wanted to redraw the maps again. they'd only done them two years before but he wanted new maps drawn by the new republican majority. that would make all their seats safe, the new republican majority a permanent majority. because republicans were in the majority and democrats were in the minority, the texas democrats could not stop this surprise redistricting by tom delay and the texas republicans. at least they could not stop it in the usual way. watch what they did, though. this is amazing. >> for a second straight day, texas politics is in chaos, turmoil after more than 50 democrats in the texas house of representatives refused to show up for work monday. >> not present. >> two-thirds of its member, the statehouse is shut down. can't pass any laws. >> what we're witnessing right now is the tyranny of the minority. >> quite frankly, they should all resign. >> republican speaker ordered state troopers, even the legendary texas rangers to round them up, arrest the missing and
return them to the statehouse. by then, most of them had already fled to a holiday inn across the oklahoma state line, pursued by texas troopers. >> we decided yesterday that we were going to stay as long as it takes. >> texas house democrats managed to drag that fight out all summer. rick perry had to call two different special sessions to get the bill passed. after the house democrats fled the state. the second time around, it was the democrats in the senate who fled the state. the house democrats had gone to oklahoma, the senate democrats, they went to new mexico. they stayed out of state for six weeks. they shut down the texas state legislature rather than just let texas republicans quietly roll their bill into law. ultimately texas republicans got their new maps but not before democrats made sure the entire country could see what the republicans were up to. texas democrats use the power of their minority to maximum effect by dragging the process out for as long as they could. you might remember the same kind
of thing happened in wisconsin in 2011 when the new republican majority in that state moved to strip union rights. 14 democrats in wisconsin state senate, the whole democratic caucus, fled the state of wisconsin to go to an undisclosed location. also known as the state of illinois. they high tailed it across state lines and in so doing those wisconsin democrats denied the republican majority, the quorum to strip union rights. the democrats filibustered with their feet for three weeks and turned out to be enough time for tens of thousands of wisconsin voters for union rights to mass at the state capitol for the biggest protest wisconsin has ever seen. if those democratic senators had not left the state, republicans could have passed that bill as fast as they approved the day's minutes. but by stalling, the democrats, well, they didn't end the bill's chances. the way it works federally, what happens when you filibuster. instead they just slowed it all down. in so doing, they got a lot of
attention and they created a movement far greater than their voting numbers inside the legislature. that same year, same thing also happened in indiana. indiana's minority democrats fled their state for five weeks to block a union stripping bill there as well. like in wisconsin, like in texas before them, in indiana, they could not stop that republican bill forever. the republicans brought it back in 2012. when they did, this was the scene outside the governor's state of the state address. indiana democrats lost that battle over that policy but put up one heck of a losing fight. today in texas, a committee in the house started hearing testimony on texas' sweeping new abortion ban. 2,000 people signed up to testify on the bill. 2,000 people. they filled the main room and an overflow room and not just an overflow room, they filled a half dozen overflow rooms. it was a replay of the citizens filibuster from last month that gave democratic lawmakers a chance to filibuster the abortion ban for real until the clock ran out on the special
session. when the hearing opened today in texas, democrats on the panel pressed the republican sponsor of the bill about the effect her new ban would have on the abortion clinics in the state. this is the map of where clinics now exist in texas. 42 of them. see what happens to them if the texas bill becomes law. only five remaining in the whole state. another version of this map was made by supporters of abortion rights in texas. but this same version has been used by supporters of closing the clinics, too, to explain why they're doing this. lieutenant governor of texas tweeting they, quote, fought to pass the bill through the senate and this is why. so they can close as many clinics as possible. they're saying that's what they want to do. abortion might technically be legal in texas, but texas republicans are going to make it so texas women cannot actually get one. same difference in the end. today the sponsor of the texas bill rejected amendments that would try to achieve the stated aims of her bill without closing down all the clinics. she rejected all proposed
amendments. the point is bluntly to close the clinics. a new poll out today from ppp shows among voters in texas who have formed an opinion about the bill, more people oppose it than support it by eight points. but just over half of texas voters say they don't have any opinion on it at all. if you're a texas democrat or somebody who supports reproductive rights in texas, that high no opinion number, that is where you really have room to work. tonight we can report exclusively that that work is beginning in a very specific way. planned parenthood and naral and texas democrats tell us they're starting a texas bus tour next week that's all about the republicans' antiabortion bill. the legislature is going to be on recess next week so opponents of the abortion ban are going to use next week, use that time to go to the texas cities where this new law is going to close the clinics including houston and ft. worth. they tell us they're going to be registering voters along the way, making sure people know exactly what is in this republican bill. they're going after that majority of texas voters who say they have not heard enough about this fight to form an opinion on
it yet. already today, there was dogged organizing at the capitol. signing up voters and phone banking outside the hearing with all those protesters who showed up to make themselves heard. the texas state capitol was full again today with people trying to stop this ban. the protests against this bill are not stopping. 2,000 people signed up to testify at the committee. this is not going away. still, though, if you consider just the votes in the legislature, texas republicans should be able to pass this thing. they say they are fast tracking it. they say thousands of protesters are not. they expect to win on this thing. in response, texas democrats say they have tricks up their sleeve, still have cards yet to play and this thing is no sure bet for the republicans. what are the democrats planning? why do they seem more confident than they maybe ought to be given the numbers? texas state senator wendy davis joins us next. ♪ [ slap! ] [ male announcer ] your favorite foods fighting you? fight back fast with tums. calcium-rich tums starts working so fast you'll forget you had heartburn. ♪ tum tum tum tum tums
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this legislating is being done, voted on. look around the room. primarily by none. you can imagine, or maybe you can't, how a woman feels to be told that her feelings on these issues, that no matter how difficult, no matter the circumstance that she's dealing with, if she can't fit into every one of these little square pegs, she is not going to be
able to exercise her constitutional right. and what's so disturbing is that we don't seem to care. >> state senator wendy davis of texas during her marathon filibuster of that state's draconian new proposed antiabortion bill last week. wendy davis ran out the clock on the republican-called special session trying to pass that abortion ban last week. now another special session has been called and republicans in texas say they won't have their plans foiled this time. joining us now for the interview is texas state senator wendy davis. senator davis, thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you, rachel. thanks for having me. >> so your filibuster made all the difference to beat the clock in the first special session. what are you planning, you and your fellow democrats planning now for the second special session? >> well obviously we're not going to talk about our strategy ahead of the game, but what we do know, obviously, and you talked about it in the lead-in
to the segment, thousands of people showed up to the capitol today to testify and to observe the testimony. i expect that we'll see that same sort of turnout when the bill is heard in senate committee hearing which is going to take place on monday morning. it's my understanding. and we expect or hope that their voices will add in a way that makes a difference in the way some of these lawmakers are considering this bill. if not, and if democratic leaders are not able to stop the passage of the bill, i would be shocked if it weren't immediately followed with some sort of a suit to enjoin its enforcement based on it intruding upon the constitutionally guaranteed liberties that exist in this country. >> do you think a lawsuit would
be based on the efforts to close clinics in the state or would it be based on the 20-week cutoff time for when abortions would be allowed in the state if this thing passes? >> i think the thing that's most repugnant to the constitutional is this idea of intruding upon a woman's liberty and that protected right to make that difficult decision. and with the closure of these clinics, but also, rachel, included in this bill is the severe number of doctors that would be able to practice in this arena. that severe limitation on her arena is going to be the best thing that has the chance of a constitutional challenge. >> it strikes me when i look at the overall situation here. they obviously have the numbers in terms of the republican majority and the sizes of the majority in both houses of the legislature. but so many people blooding into the legislature, the attention
that your filibuster has brought to austin. it seems maybe the most important consequence has brought this far, you making your republican colleagues explain themselves, make them debate these measures, put the argument out there and having it tested. do you feel like the open debate has really aired out the argument? >> i think it has helped a lot. i think it has exposed their hypocrisy, because they really can't defend this bill based on improving women's health care. and in fact, all objective medical scientists and doctors who have weighed in on this say this will endanger women's health. it will put women in the back alley that she once was in. it won't decrease the demand. and what is amazing about this movement, which is purported to do this, we are making sure we truly do reduce unintended pregnancies, and therefore, a need for a woman to make this difficult decision. those things are met with absolute opposition.
so adding women's health services, making sure that we're giving age-appropriate sex education in our schools, those are off the table. and in fact, in 2011, this legislature kicked about 160,000 women, this republican-controlled legislature, off of family planning services in texas. and we're asking right now what happened as a consequence of that? what happened to the demand for abortion services? what happened to the demand for medicaid births and the costs of medicaid births in the state of texas? none of it makes sense with what purportedly is the agenda of this republican majority. particularly when it comes to matters of liberty. last session, governor perry vetoed a bill that would have prohibited people from texting while driving. and he said that he vetoed it, in his statement, because it was an unacceptable intrusion of government into a person's
liberty. if that is an intrusion that is unacceptable, i can't imagine how he can say with a straight face, that these guaranteed liberties are somehow inappropriate. it is just absurd. >> your fight is getting a lot of attention in texas. you, personally are getting a lot of attention around the country and in texas. if have to ask you if strategically you have an approach to try to leverage this kind of moment in the sun that you have towards the causes that you care the most about. what is the advantage to you and to texas democrats to wage this fight? >> well, for a very long time we felt frustrated, rachel, that people didn't seem to understand
what was going on in the texas capitol. that is something that you alluded to earlier. redistricting has assured that there really are not general elections that take place that really matter. instead, we have poorly drawn republican districts, and fewer but purely drawn democratic districts. so all the elections are taking place in districts where issues don't come to the surface and resonate in a way that people across texas really understand what is happening. i think that most texans find themselves in the middle. they don't align with far, far right politics. nor do they align with far left politics. and they want to see us talking about and serving us in that place in the middle. but unfortunately, their agendas are being hijacked by republican partisan politicians who are using issues that truly put
people at risk. that is the most upsetting thing. truly puts women and their health at risk in order for them to feed their primary partisan politics, and to try to succeed. i hope that what this has done is shown that they will be answerable in general election settings. and that voters have woken up in a way that is going to hold them to that. >> wendy davis, democratic state senator of texas, showing tonight why it was not just your tactics that got you attention, but the way you explain yourself. thank you very much for staying in touch. >> thank you, rachel. >> we'll be right back. chalky... not chalky. temporary... 24 hour. lots of tablets... one pill. you decide. prevent acid with prevacid 24hr.
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