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intend to fight. inside the jury room, a juror reveals the first vote on the verdict, reaction to the cries for help, the role of race in the case and george zimmerman's use of his gun. because of the heat of the moment and the stand your ground. he had a right to defend himself. if he felt threatened that his life was going to be taken away from him other was going to have bodily harm, he had a right. no nukes. senators agree on a deal to avoid the nuclear option, but is this a short-term fix or a real solution to the filibuster standoff? and fireworks at the home run derby. the nats 20-year-old phenom bryce haerper teamed one his dad. while the harper family tried to steal the show with 24 homers in three crowns, the derby crown and new chevy pickup went to a slugger from the oakland a's who hit 32 homers over three rounds and isn't even in tonight's
y'all st all-star lineup. >> back, back, back, back -- gone. >> one of the shots even dented that new truck. good day, i'm andrea mitchell in washington. people in cities from coast to coast are reacting to the george zimmerman verdict and for the first time overnight there was real violence and arrests in marked contrast to the peaceful protests in the days immediately following the trial. in a revealing interview last night on cnn. behind the cloak of anonymity showed how much the jurors believed the defense's portrayal of zimmerman. >> i think george zimmerman is a man whose heart was in the right place but just got displaced by the vandalism in the neighborhoods and wanting to catch these people so badly that he went above and beyond what he really should have done.
but i think his heart was in the right place. it just went terribly wrong. >> do you think he's guilty of something? >> i think he's guilty of not using good judgment. >> we also heard for the first time from george zimmerman's parents in an exclusive interview with barbara walters. >> what do you say to people who are demanding vengeance? >> no, it's nothing i can tell them but it is something that i can do, i can pray for them. >> joining me now, msnbc's craig melvin live at the naacp convention in orlando, florida, and nbc's ron mott live in sanford. ron, you covered the trial from start to finish. you and craig have been watching this case for so many weeks now. what was your response to the juror that fascinating portrayal of how the jury was responding to all of the things that we were watching from the outside?
>> yeah. i took notes on all of the jurors, the prospective jurors throughout the selection process and tried to make notes for myself about which jurors i thought would be pro prosecution and pro defense. b-37 i put down as a pro-defense juror -- prospective juror and taking notes on her, she's lived in the area 18 years, had her lawyer is a lawyer, work in the space industry. she has a daughter and has worked in her current occupation for 16 years. what i got out of that interview she did yesterday with cnn was that she was pretty much going into this thinking that this was going to be an acquittal for george zimmerman. the first vote they took, the first straw vote they took it was three not guilty, you had had two manslaughter and one second degree murder and toward the end of that interview she teared up because she says it was very emotional in the room as the conversation wore down on that saturday. they spent 13 hours saturday in that room going back and forth trying to see how they could
come to some agreement. when they sent that note to the judge asking for some clarification on manslaughter, they were simply confused. the jury instructions ran 27 pages. i ran all 27 pages. in particular that section on manslaughter is very vague because it fits in between second degree murder and third degree murder. there's manslaughter in between and it is vague i think by design. i guess going forward a lot of people will be asking for some changes to the jury instructions because it can catch a lot of things. it is a very gray area. but b-37 said from the beginning she voted not guilty on that first vote and never wavered from that position. >> there was also a real dust-up last night between the prosecutor discussing the case and mark o'mara's reaction. let's watch, this also from cnn. >> one word to describe george zimmerm zimmerman.
>> murderer. >> how dare they not accept a jury verdict. they can be upset if they want to be, but they put on their best case, better than they should have, the way they tried the case, and the jury still said innocent. >> craig, a lot of hard feelings between those two sides. very apparent. there you are at the naacp convention where you've been talking to people and where they want some action. >> yeah. you know what? that is -- continues to be the only thing that people here at the naacp convention are talking about. roughly 4,000 people at the convention this year. 104 years. naacp, oldest civil rights organization in this country. every year they have a number of panel discussions, a number of speakers. this year eric holder. but you talk to anyone for more than 10 or 15 seconds and they want to talk to you about the
verdict, about the trial. but a lot of folks are also talking about moving forward. you know that the online petition that was started by the naacp to petition the justice department to engage in some sort of action now. at last check it was at close to 900,000 signatures. that seems to be the next step here at the justice department. i talked to ben jealous this morning, president of the naacp. he's optimistic that petition much like the online petition which led they think to the prosecution of george zimmerman, they think that this petition could very well have the same result. this afternoon the attorney general eric holder set to address the convention at 4:00. he will of course be talking about the verdict, just as he did in d.c. on sunday at the delta sigma theta, 100th anniversary. but he's also expected to talk about the voting rights decision. he is expected to talk about predator lending as well. but to say that he is the most anticipated speaker of the
naacp's convention would be a gross understatement. >> indeed. craig melvin, thank you so much. thank you and ron mott for your extraordinary coverage throughout. this has been a very tough issue and i know it has been hard on both of you. thanks for helping us out. the lapd is promising what it calls a strict posture toward any continuing protests out there today. bril bratt bill bratton is the former police commissioner in los angeles. thanks for joining us. if you were in charge right now in l.a. how would you handle the rioting we saw last night in response to the zimmerman verdict? >> i was on the phone with my successor, charlie beck, chief beck, and we talked about just the question you just asked in terms what have are they going to be doing. what they are in fact going to be doing, there, more officers there this evening. some of the freedom of movement of the crowds that was allowed over the last several nights will be limited.
they are making it quite clear that those that would seek to cause problems are going to be del with very quickly, very forcefully an they are generating a lot of community support. lapd has a great relationship with its african-american community and their leadership and they are outranled at the 150 people or so last night and the behavior they engaged in. that serves no purpose whatsoever for the mission that they are on which is basically trying to move forward from this trial and trying to get the justice department to take the concerns very seriously and see if there is in fact something that the federal government can do that was not done at the local level. >> of course this was not nearly the kind of reaction that we saw in the past in l.a., especially in south central after the rodney king verdict. you transformed that department. what is the key to making a police department work with the community? is it community policing?
relationships with community leaders? with the clergy? with political figures? how do you make it all work in l.a. to make it so much more viable? >> it is all of those things. there was a wonderful piece in this sunday's "new york times" magazine section on the new los angeles, the relationship between its police department and its communities. it's about collaboration before an event occurs that you have relationships so that when you know that something is going to occur -- an certainly there was an anticipation of demonstrations after this trial and its verdict -- that the idea was they all come together to try and basically ensure that will is not violence. that's what's going to be going on there today. there is not a single african-american looeader in lo angeles today that's a legitimate leader, if you will, that's not working with the los angeles police department on this issue. it has been quite a turnaround. i'm proud to have been part of
that. my successor, charlie beck, eats, drinks and breathes it. they are not going to tolerate the behavior of these 150 knuckleheads, as we would describe them. that's certainly a change from the 1990s. >> chief, the family, trayvon martin's parents, have called for calm. everyone has responded with extraordinary composure and dignity. so what is it that creates the trigger when you've got a crowd, you've got protesters, they're marching silently and all of a sudden in one city or another it gets violent. are these opportunists? are these just, as you call them, knuckleheads who are trying to take advantage. >> last night in los angeles this was the third night of demonstrations and the demonstrations had been controlled. they had to take over certain intersections with the access wednesd -- acquiescence of the police. the larger rally that was
peaceful, being led by some more significant activists in the area, there was this group of young people that broke away and began to engage in some of the fighting that you saw a little earlier on the newscast and some of the vandalism. it grew to a larger number, about 150 at its largest. about 350 lapd officers on the scene and in the vicinity last evening. tonight those numbers will be much larger and tonight community will be more prepared to work with the police to make sure that those young people don't go off on their own. this was an event where community understands that their mess animal is being muage is bd by the activities of these young people. >> chief, good to have you here today. to other news making headlines around the world today, demonstrations erupted in
violence in egypt overnight. seven people killed, 261 hurt, after security forces clashed with pro-morsi protesters in cairo. the violence came as deputy secretary of state bill yam burns visited egypt saying the country has been given a second chance at democracy. in moscow today, nsa leaker edward snowden has now officially asked for temporary asylum in russia after being hold up at the airport for weeks. this comes after russia's president vladimir putin said yesterday u.s. had trapped snowden by frightening countries considering offering him safe haven. an international incident at the panama canal. a north korean ship was stopped by panamanian authorities when it tried to enter the canal on its return home from cuba. panama's president posted this picture on twitter with the caption translated to "so the world knows that you can't transfer non-declared war like materiel through the panama canal."
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joins me now from capitol hill to talk about this battle. senator, you have some unlikely allies. how did you create this coalition and do you think you can get the votes you need for this amendment on the floor? >> well, it is a commonsense bipartisan solution and it is really based on what victims have asked. they said they are not reporting these crimes because they don't trust the chain of command. they don't think the current system can be objective enough that they can receive justice. so those arguments resonate with democrats and republicans and people who just want to make sure we can end sexual assault and rape in the military. i'm very hopeful. i think we will continue to bill our bipartisan support over the next few weeks and hopefully when we do have the armed services authorization bill on the floor, our amendment will be successful. >> why do you think the pentagon and the armed services chair, carl levin, and even claire mccaskill, an ally with you in other regards on this issue, why do you think they believe the
chain of command is so important to preserve? >> i believe their approach is they want to keep the status quo as it is in terms of the command structure and they've added a layer of appeals so that if the commander disagrees with the lawyer on whether a case should go to trial it will be appealed to a higher commander. my concern that's not really where the problem lies. the they only disagree on cases going to trial 1% of the time. that's 00 cases. if there's 26,000 sexual assaults and rapes a year and only 3,000 are being reported, we have to do something about the 23,000 cases. that's why you have to listen to the victims. victims tell us over and over again i don't trust chain of command, there is too much retaliation, the system is not objective. what our allies have done -- kuchuk, israel, others -- say taking it out of the chain of command ensures victory.
t that's why the trained military prosecutor is the right person to make these very tough decisions and having objective decisions so justice can be done. >> senator roger wicker was on "the daily rundown" this morning with luke russert. he says he is a retired judge advocate in the military and he objects to this. >> we can do a lot better but to take the commanders out and the chain of command is not a step that we need to take, it would be unnecessary to resolve the problem and would be harmful i think to good order and discipline in the military. >> i'm very struck by that "good order and discipline." >> well, the commanders are still in charge of good order an discipline an they aren't achieving it right now. they are still having 26,000 unwanted sexual contacts, attemptses and rapes a year.
but they are in charge still of ma making sure these assaults don't happen. they are still on the hook for all of it. the reason why objectivity matters so much su have to create a climate where victims believe there can be justice and in response to senator wicker, the commanders have been in charge of this from the beginning. since 25 years ago. since dick cheney was secretary of defense. our secretary of defense said over and over again, zero tolerance for sexual assault and rape in the military. for 25 years since the first scandals emerged. they've been in charge and they failed. when victims say we need to outside the chain of command to have this hope of justice and objectivity i think we should listen. knowing that our allies have done this, in many cases to protect the defendants because they didn't feel they could get a fair trial or have -- not have undue command influence. i think it is appropriate that justice is blind, that it is fair, and it is objective and
only trained military prosecutors can offer that. i think every commander doesn't necessarily have that skill set or knowledge base to do the right thing. >> there's some concern that "the new york times" did a story this week or last week about the president's comments. i want to play a little bit of what the president said on may 7th about this very issue, and whether because he is the commander in chief, has already influenced some military prosecutions. >> we find out somebody's engaging in this stuff, they got to be held accountable. prosecuted, stripped of their positions. court-martial. fired. dishonorably discharged. period. it's not acceptable. >> i don't understand why the president describing simply the category of offense as unacceptable and laying that as the standard would have any influence on prosecutions in
individual cases. >> well, that was the story that the "new york times" covered this weekend. what they covered was that there are prosecutions around the country where the defense counsel are saying that there is undue command influence because the commander in chief has said what he believes should happen for the outcome of these cases. whether that's true or not we don't need to decide that today. but what i do know, when our allies looked at the same issue, they said commanders can be influenced. commanders can have biases. commanders may know the victim. commanders may know the perpetrators. and so in order to be able to make sure that there's no undue command influence or outcomes of these cases they took it outside the chain of command. that's why they gave it to the independent non-partisan, non-biased prosecutors to prosecute those cases to the fullest. it is the objectivity we are trying to bring to our system to hopefully encourage more victims
to report because the reality is, if 23,000 cases are going unreported, you are not going to have the level of investigations, trials and convictions that are necessary to change the culture. it is a vast, very significant cultural issue that has to be addressed from top to bottom. the commanders are responsible for good order and discipline. commanders are responsible for the command climate and they are the ones to make sure these crimes don't happen, and if they do that victims feel comfortable having them investigated and reported and decided by these train military prosecutors. >> with the addition of tet cruz and rand paul, how close are you to the numbers of votes you need. >> we still have more to go. we'll work very hard this week and next to receive the support that's necessary to be successful on the floor with this amendment. we are getting more democrats and republicans every day. >> senator kirsten gillibrand, thank you so much. there's the power suit and the power tie, but for former president george h.w. bush it is all about socks. he's been known for his bold
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editor of postpolitics.com. no nukes. for how long, kelly, and only for these few appointees? >> i think from talking to senators in both parties there's been a kind of deep exhale here and nobody wants to get into this again. they also dealt with filibuster rules back in january so we can see history perhaps repeat itself somewhere down the line but there is a sense that the big meeting they had last night, without staff, without cameras, democrats, republicans sitting together talking for 3 1/2 hours actually made some difference. by that i mean you had members coming out telling us they really felt they were heard, they understand the concerns of the other side better. it seemed like of cathartic. they've resolved this today where they will go forward with votes. it was kind of a sign of good faith with one of the initial nomination votes today, a procedural vote got 17 republicans, far more than needed. it was a good sign at least on
this issue at this moment, kind of an exale saying let's get this worked out. they were at the brink and bitterness was deep -- but they sorted it out. >> this was on the nomination of richard cordray who succeeded elizabeth warren, was a recess appointment because he couldn't get confirmed, but then because of an appeals court ruling the whole you power of the presidency to do recess appointments was thrown up for grabs so that was the test case there, at least the initial case. chris cillizza, is this peace and harmony breaking out in the capitol? not quite? >> look, andrea. i think at the end of the day, harry reid didn't want to do this. i think you don't get to be the leader of either the majority or the minority in the senate unless you are kind of an institutionalist. frankly, because have you to be there for a long time to rise to those positions of power. harry reid, mitch mcconnell, they believed in the senate as
an institution, value the senate as an institution and no matter what they say don't ultimately want to be the guy who adjusted filibuster rules. so i think it was predictable in its way, in that i feel like in 2005 this was the time that the nuclear option was going to be triggered. earlier this year there was big hubbub about changing the filibuster rules and reid had helped to short-circuit that. i think that's what you're seeing here. the nuclear option is, in a way, a symbol of last resort. i'm going to really do it this time, i'm not kidding. they don't want to really do it, they are using it to foment action. it looks at least in these seven cases like it worked. i am not convinced we are forever rid of it as a potential threat but i don't think it is going to be used. i can't imagine a scenario where the nuclear option is going to be triggered anywhere in the near future. >> i wonder how much of that
re -- the democrats backing off was precipitated by brian schweitzer's decision over weekend that he's not running for the senate in montana which gives them another really vulnerable seat because the democrats have a bigger hill to climb to hold on in the senate in 2014. >> i spoke to john mccain and he raised that issue saying the democrats could foresee a scenario where their majority could be in jeopardy and if rules were changed now, who's to say the republicans wouldn't certainly do the same if the majority were switched. so i think there was, in part because of the montana open seat race, a kind of real world scenario that made sense to democrats, many of whom are terribly frustrated about legislation that's not moving forward and trying to get some sort of resolution to move things more quickly, more smoothly, and maybe having the conversation and having the threat does have the benefit of getting them to talk to each
other and to try and sort this out. so 02014 was definitely castinga shadow like this. >> kelly and chris, great minds thinking alike. ed markey, veteran house member sworn in today. that massachusetts senate seat. double the excitement at the atlanta zoo today as their resident gind panda gave birth to twins. second baby was surprise to the zookeepers and probably to the mama herself. it is the first panda born in the u.s. in 26 years. >> we're still coming to grips with what just happened. it starts with little things. tiny changes in the brain. little things anyone can do. it steals your memories. your independence.
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be honest with me, rachel. do you think that that was racially motivated or more a case of somebody who was thought to be a young thug, black or white. >> it was racial. let's be honest. racial. if trayvon was white, he had a hoodie on, would that happened? >> racial jeantel, the key witness who was the last person to talk to trayvon martin before he died, speaking to piers morgan last night about strong reactions to her testimony. joining me now, melissa harris perry on msnbc, and jonathan capehart, editorial writer for "the washington post." melissa, this young woman has become almost a touchstone of differing cultural reactions to the case, to the issues involved. i was really struck by her interview last night and the way different people, including that juror who was on cnn, spoke about this young woman.
>> yeah. rachel jeantel i think ended up being less an actual human being who as a young woman on the phone -- a teenager really -- on the phone with her dear friend. she becomes the last person to speak to her dear friend. her friend is in fact shot and kill minutes after they br were the phone together. i think if we really think of her as a person, as a young person. we would see her as a person in great traumatic stress and would have a sense of empathy and attachment to her. but i think part of what the reactions to her reveal is how much issues of race and class and respectability and sort of normativity affect us. middle class african-americans who felt that she somehow was misrepresented or poorly representing african-americans and making it sort of harder to get a conviction. i think in all those ways again
it just is representative of how difficult those barriers are to seeing the humanity in one another. >> and in fact, jonathan, it felt to me in listening to the juror that the case might have been lost for the prosecution with jury selection because of that cultural divide, because of the inability to relate to trayvon martin as a teenager and to speak -- the juror kept speaking about george and how george was so well intentioned and george was a nice person and a good person, yes, he went too far but he showed poor judgment, but relating to him as a person rather than relating at all to -- >> to the victim. >> -- trayvon martin who's dead. >> right. listening to that interview, it felt as if she was speaking directly from the defense team's talking points. everything was about george and how george felt and what george said even though he didn't take the witness stand. what must george have been thinking at that time. maybe he went too far.
and nothing about trayvon martin and anything that sort of spoke to her thinking of him not as someone in the wrong place at the wrong time but as a teenager in a neighborhood that wasn't his own, he was staying at the apartment of his fathering's girlfriend, on a sunday night, early evening. she said late at night. it was 7:00, 7:15 in the evening. it was raining. he was doing nothing wrong. nothing illegal. the only thing he was trying to do was get home and at no point did she empathize with the fact that he was a teenager. i think that's part of the problem. both gene robinson and i have written about this, about how black men aren't allowed to be young people, aren't allowed to be adolescents, aren't allowed to make all the growing and learning mistakes that teenagers make. we're not allowed to be that. >> melissa, you've spoken as a
mother and you've talked about your girls and you've talked about what young black men -- how constricted they are and how parents grieve and worry and have to train them really to act in a certain way around authority figures. speak to me about that and how really sinister that is in the way we raise our children. >> right. so here is the great challenge i think of parenting for all parents. that su you want to both keep your kids safe and really encourage them to take risks. as not only a parent but a parent of an african-american child whose political consciousness begins with the election of president obama. right? we were living in chicago when president obama was running for senate. in fact the very first words my daughter ever read as sight words was the word obama because it was on all these signs. right? in our neighborhood. so i spouppose i expect there h would be in the course of her
childhood lots of need to have conversation about structural inequalities, about the realities of inequality that preexisted that we're moving forward. it is not as though i thought we were in a post-racial america but i did think there was a kind of psychological boost available to african-american children in the context of an obama presidency, a sense that they were fully engaged as american citizens. part of what the george zimmerman verdict does is it chips away at that sense of go out, try anything, can you actually be anything. just be able to say that to your kid to have some belief that you can just encourage them to go and to take some risks and to be independent. suddenly you want to grab them back if but you recognize that that, too, leads you to be this kind of hang-wringing anxiety provoking parent. how do you ask your kid to be an american zibcitizen, to be an at that takes risks but also try to keep them from being killed at 7:00 in the evening trying to
walk home? >> i was struck also by your conversation this weekend on our awith joy ann reid who spoke about moving from a gated community in florida, chosen by her family because it would be safe for their kids, and the freedom they've experienced, jonathan, moving to new york city, being able to take the subway, not feeling that they are unusual in a completely multi-cultural city. >> yes. that's the beauty of new york where everybody's there. from every nation and everyone's there for the same reason, to reach for the american dream. that's not to say that there aren't issues and problems in new york city. but given hot mayor is now and the tenor and tone that he has set since being elected in 2000, i think i can understand why joy ann and her family feel much more free to be themselves, to be their full selves in new york city as opposed to a gated
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andrea. look, this is a very extreme set of bills that are going to close down dozens of health centers in texas. we are really looking at a constitutionality we believe many aspects of the law are probably unconstitutional. but the thing that's really terrible about this, it is coming on the heels of governor perry actually shutting down the women's hell program in the state of texas where more than 100,000 women already lost access to preventive care. i think it is a growing theme, unfortunately, in many states where politicians are putting their observe political agenda ahead of women's health care. >> we've seen action now in north carolina. we saw what happened in the budget bill in ohio. also scott walker in wisconsin. we are seeing state by state efforts through budget actions, often without hearings, to roll back access to health care in women. >> right. that's what's incredible. i just spent a lot of time in texas. it is my home state, of course.
in fact this bill was so extreme they couldn't get it through the regular legislature. they couldn't even get it through a special session. as you know, senator wendy davis successful filibustered that bill so they brought the legislature back a third time simply to ram this bill through even though it is not supported by the majority of texans. we see the same thing in north carolina. very unpopular moves by the legislature. literally attaching anti-choice, anti-women's legislation to a motorcycle bill just in hopes of jamming it through the legislature there. but people do not support this even as states like north carolina and in texas. >> we should point out that there is very little support -- never has been -- for late term abortions. it is a rarely used medical option but this is not just about late term abortions. this is about preventive health care and planned parenthood offering non-abortion services to women. >> that's right. look, the rules -- the law that
was just passed in texas would literally close down dozens of women's health centers because of the ridiculous restrictions that are placed upon them and on doctors. it is literally the legislature getting in between doctors and their getting between doctors and their ability to provide medical care. in states where they're trying to cut women off of going to planned parenthood for basic things and cancer screening. this is a much broader effort to take away women's access to care. what we are seeing, which is very encouraging and i think you're showing some of the signs, is this has enraged and engaged a whole new generation of young women and men who are absolutely not willing to go back to a time where women didn't have access to health care in america. >> but that said, wendy davis became, you know, a national figure overnight over this. but in texas your mother ann richards, i believe, is the last elected democratic governor in 1990. so it's -- >> it's been a long time.
but it was interesting, andrea, to be at the capitol and to see literally thousands of people come back to the capitol day after day after day to testify against these bills. many people said they hadn't seen anything like this since ann richards was elected governor. you know, she said when she ran for office that she wanted to open up government to the people of texas and let them in. i think thousands of people in texas have taken her up on that offer in the last few weeks. it's been very encouraging to see democracy in action. >> i can only imagine what she would be saying. i could hear her voice. >> i think we did. >> exactly. well, it's always great to see you. thank you very much for the update. we'll stay on this story and be right back. chances are,
department to do something, even though this is not a quick decision by any means. >> no, you know, andrea, keynote address at the naacp convention, as you mentioned, in orlando, florida. he has to, and we expect he will talk some about the zimmerman trial and trayvon martin, but you're right. a lot of sort of public pressure for the doj to step in. holder has to balance that against sort of making a calculated and correct decision about sort of oversight and where they fit and do they fit in a case like this. so it's not an easy position to be in, certainly, for him. >> and hillary clinton will be speaking this afternoon at the sorority where holder spoke yesterday, so we expect to hear something from her about trayvon martin and that verdict. thank you very much. that does it for us for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." tomorrow on the show, montana senator about the scandal involved in security clearances, outsourced clearances. wait until you hear that.
my colleague tamron hall, the fashion plate from "the new york times" sunday section. a look at what's next on "news nation." >> you're very sweet, san -- andrea. >> from fashion to that to all the things we're coffering today. talk to you later. we're continuing the conversation on george zimmerman. the first juror to speak out is now backing out of a book deal. the reaction to her description of deliberations and how she was convinced the screams were george zimmerman ranged from disbelief to understanding the jurors' tough position. plus, hillary clinton could make her first comments on the trayvon martin case while the president could give his first on-camera reaction to the verdict. that could go down in a couple of hours. we'll tell you where. >> and the boy scouts of america maded headlines for its decision to ban overweight boys from the jam boar ree. the ten-day event will require
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hi, everyone. i'm tamron hall. the news nation is following continuing developments in the wake of the george zimmerman not guilty verdict. one of the six jurors announced today she is now dropping plans to write a book. juror b-37, whose identity is being kept secret for now, issued a statement saying the isolation of being sequestered, quote, shielded me from the depth of pain that exists among the general public over every aspect of this case. she also said, quote, the potential book was always intended to be a respectful observation of the trial from mine and my husband's perspective solely. and it was to be an observation that our sm