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androgel 1.62%. good evening, americans, live from new york. it's 5:00. let's get to work. >> is the president easing racial 10:00 or stoking racial tension? >> is he possibly stoking racial tension? >> trayvon martin could have been me 35 years ago. >> i would expect some guys will go over the top. just my guess. i hope not. >> is that the president admitting i guess because what? he was part of the choom gang? >> they are at this through a set of experiences and history that doesn't go away. >> it is the narrative. this country is still a slave state for all intercepts and purposes. >> it seems to be their position
unless you are maying down the street and burning a cross on somebody's lawn, racism is over. >> ask yourself your own questions about am i brinking as much bias out of myself as i can? >> is there no place for black men to feel fear? are they only the monsters, never the person afraid of monsters? >> i think it will be important for all of us to do some soul searching. >> good to have you back with us on "the ed show." who to talk about this more than this man, the president of the united states? he has the life experience, the authority, he is the leader of the country. he did the country a favor on friday. but as a white guy from the middle of the country, let me start this program off by saying this. we have to want this conversation. all of us have to want this conversation. all of us have to believe that
we can contribute and in our heart want to make changes to make this country better. if we don't have that conversation, we will go backwards. stand your ground is going backwards. president obama ignited, i guess, what some say was a firestorm on friday with surprise remarks about the trayvon martin verdict. in doing so, the president did something you have to admit he typically, as the nation's first black president, pretty much stays away from. that's race. he talked about race and he made it personal. >> trayvon martin could have been me. 35 years ago. and when you think about why in the african-american community at least, there is a lot of pain around what happened here. i think it is important to recognize that the
african-american community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences. and a history that doesn't go away. >> it will never go away. you're sitting at home. you're not fat and you don't have red hair. i'm stuck with that. you don't know what that's like. i don't know what it is like to be a black guy. i don't know wlats like to be profiled. i may have been profiled. i'm not sure if i have. i don't think i have been. this isn't controversial. this is guts. as a society, i believe we have a responsibility to talk about race. and the predisposed attitude people have. president obama i think showed a lot of courage. he came out and said it. like no other president has ever that it. racial profiling is going on in this country and what are we going to do about it? he knows it. he has experienced it.
and he continues to experience it to this day. >> well, let's talk about the political fallout from his comments. the president knows that there are demonstrations happening this weekend. if anything the president incited, incited any violence that takes place over the weekend. >> he is looping in this argument, confusing the public and it is more irresponsible behavior. >> last remark suggests that local prosecutors, local police, indeed the jury may have been racist because the outcome -- >> is he possibly stoking the racial tensions? >> he is most divisive -- >> they were all tweeting and e-mailing each other about what a major significant moment it was that president obama was making at 2:00 p.m. on a friday. he didn't even take their questions. >> now the president is saying trayvon could have been me 35 years ago. i guess he was admitting he was part of the choom gang?
>> you can argue he has more in common with zimmerman because they both have one right parent. >> i thought you were going to say because they both smoked pot. >> can all the hosts on fox guarantee that their kids will never smoke pot, never break the law and be perfect citizens? those reactions are elementary and they are very predictable. and they are a turnoff. there is a complete lack of understanding and zooer reflection on their own prejudices. president obama is in a very unique position. to understand the frustration and pain felt in the african-american xhunlts across this country, in the wake of george zimmerman's acquittal, he doesn't to have rely on statistic or studies. president obama can talk about his own experiences. and there is something i believe that is very jarring about the most powerful man in the world talking about growing up in a society where he was profiled in fear.
>> there are very few african-american men in this country who haven't had the experience of being followed when they were in a department store. that includes me. there are very few african-american men who haven't had the experience of walking across the street and hearing the locks click on the doors of cars. that happens to me, at least before i was a senator. >> can we come to agreement that no president has ever made a more powerful statement about the african-american experience? because no other president could. no other president has walked in his shoes. no white person, no latino ever walked in the shoes of a white person. come on. we are a country that is mixing. and we have to figure this out. and we have a president who is perfectly positioned to talk about his experience to help us to relate to one another. to make americaber. president obama is talkinging about his experience in depth now because the nation is paying attention to this case.
the truth is the struggle is part of his dna. take a look at what emback in 2008. talking about reverend jeremiah wright. >> i can no more disown him than i can disown the black community. i can no more disown him than i can disown my white grandmother. a woman who hemmed raise me. a woman who sacrificed again and again for me. a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world. but a woman who once confessed her fear of brlack men who passd her by on the street and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial stereo types that made me cringe. >> at this hour across america, justice for trayvon vigils are taking place. millions of americans feel the system failed. they feel that way. who is to be the judge at this point? we need to move forward. zimmerman's defense team did not end up invoking stand your
ground defense. without a doubt, it was a focal point of the trial. a least 21 states have stand your ground laws which allow citizens who feel threatened, to meet force with force including deadly forceful so right now, what we are teaching young people in this country, that a gun pulled out of the back of your pants is an option to make things better. i don't believe that. and i believe the parental discussion in this country needs to be one of maturity to talk to kids today that when you pull that firearm out, after legally owning it, you use it. you're in for the hassle of your life. when you kill somebody, you take everything they open, everything they're going to own, every bit of a morsel of their life and their loved ones. it is not in any way shape or form the correct direction to go. in his speech, president obama called for review of stand your
ground laws and those like it. >> for those who resist that idea, that we should think about stand your ground laws, i ask people to consider if trayvon martin was of age and armed, could he have to do his ground on that sidewalk? >> oh, the tough hypothetical question. president obama wans not talkin about policy there. this has become much greater than one case or one law or one victim. president obama is using this as a teachable moment. and we, of course, have to be adult enough to not shy away from it. or chid the conversation or turn it into a political arena. this is about people living side by side in america without butchering one another. do you think we can do that? do you think we can get rid of
the prejudice in our society? that we won't judge people on the color of their skin but the content of their care and their desire to move america forward? trayvon martin's death has brought up a much larger issue of how our society treats young black men. >> we need to spend some time thinking about how do we bolster and reinforce our african-american boys. is there more that we can do to give them a sense that their country cares about them. >> left behind are parents. they release ad statement thanking president obama saying, what touches people is that our son, trayvon benjamin martin, could have been their son. president obama sees himself in trayvon and identifies with him.
this is a beautiful tribute to our son. what are we going to do? what can we do? i could do hours on this. i have my philosophy of what i think the investment could be in society to turn this whole thing around. but the first responsibility we have, and i believe as broadcasters, is to never shy away from the conversation. and to seize that moment when people are paying attention to what's going on in america. we have to talk about nonviolence. we have to tell young people in this country that using this is not the correct option. and when we pass laws on the street that say stand your ground, that is not defend your home and your family. that's a confrontational signal, stand your ground. as if everybody is coming after us. it bleeds paranoia and it also breeds contentment for our fellow americans. that's not the direction we want to go. i'll have a lot more on this in coming shows here on the ed show
on msnbc. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. should there be a race relations class in every public school? text a for yes. tech b for no. i'm going to vote yes on this. you want to go to 67622. you want to leave a comment on our blog at msnbc.com. we'll bring you the results later. on i believe that this has to be part of our public school discussion. that confrontation is not an option. that we need to love one another. and that loving your neighbor is what the almighty wanted us to do. if you're not faith-based, at least you can respect the human rights of someone else. so we can find common ground throughout this entire conversation. joining me tonight is reverend jesse jackson and new york congressman gregory meeks. great to have you with us tonight. we could talk hours about this. i want to focus in if i can, on
what president obama actually said on friday and what impact could this have? reverend jackson, how big a moment was this? >> it was a precious moment for him. we've learn to survive apart. now we must learn to live together under one big tent. we do it in the military. we do it on the ball field. when we choose direction over complexion. when president clinton reach out and had the commission, it was all right. if clinton reached out to someone who played the saxophone, it was seen as expansive. when president obama reached out, it was seen as divisive. i must tell that yyou, lyndon j said it is not equal, not protected by law. we need freedom, justice. lyndon johnson did it and it
worked. >> no president has had more civil rights legislation passed on his watch ever in the history of the country. so the conversation can work. congressman meeks, what do we tell young men of color in this country in the wake of this decision? and in this week's discussion. >> one of the things i think that this has again awakened young men, that we can make a difference. it cannot be just a series where people go out to rally. we've got to register and we've got to vote. there are these laws like stand your ground. and i think the conversation has to happen as the president that. but it has to happen at every level. it has to start in families. the president was very courageous. i think he was a patriot. what he is trying to do is make this a more perfect union. unless we talk about this, as we focus on how african-american men are feeling, i know that i surely have experienced racial
profiling. here in new york city where we have this huge debate because of the way the mayor has gone with racial profiling and talking to individuals, we've got to make sure that this conversation happens. we've got to make sure that we stay with it until such time that we get rid of those laws like stand your ground. >> how do we get rift racial profiling? you have to make it illegal. number one. that's the trayvon martin situation, the prosecutors tried to avoid the discussion the jurors said they did not recognize it. and the defendant tried to delete it. can you imagine if you have a trial in florida where you had six black jurors as opposed to six white jurors, the prosecutor would accept that arrangement? the jury should have been black, white, male and female. it was very unrepresentative. you have a conclusion that was,
imagine again, an all black juror. that would be accepted by the media. by the prosecutor. >> president obama talked about personal experiences. how important is that? do you think the country can consume that as a positive? and i don't know the experiences of a black man. i can try to relate to them. but at the end of the day, in fact, i had a gentleman call me on my talk show this weekend. irwin from chicago. he said ed, i'm a decorated combat veteran. a graduate of yale. i have three young black sons. no matter what say to them at the end of the day they're still black. all we can do is try. these personal experiences and trying to explain what it is like to go through society when you are profiled or when there is discrimination. this is part of the conversation i think some americans shy away from. but how do we approach this in a positive to make sure we don't shy away from it, congressman? >> i think what the president
talked about. that we try to get other folks to understand the context from which african-americans view what's going. on i think it is important. i sit as a member of congress. when i look at those tv hosts you showed earlier, once i go on one of those shows, you should see the kind of mail that i get, or phone calls that i get. as a member of congress. an african-american member of congress. it still exists in this country today. and when i looked at those shots, you see they are playing to those individuals who bring out the worst of americans. >> you know, as a new south today, made possible by the walls coming down. you couldn't have had the carolina panthers pulling the wall down ufrl couldn't have had the big alabama/lsu game. >> we could talk for hours on. this reverend jackson, congressman gregory meeks, i appreciate you being part of the discussion. >> thank you very much.
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jifts. time for the trenders. here on the ed show, we listen to you. every week we check out our facebook, our twitter and our blog. so you decide and now we are reporting. here are this week's top trenders, voted on by you. >> don't mess with texas? no! don't [ bleep ] with new york. >> the number three trender. louis black messes with texas. >> it's time to fight fire with
fire. >> the comedian took issue with rick perry's quest to take jobs from new yorkers. >> if you're tired of the same old recipe of overtaxationer overregulation and frivolous litigation, get out before you go broke will. >> you said we've got too much regulation? we've got wall street. they break the law for a living and never get punished. >> oops! >> our number two trender. sharknado. strikes. >> shark made the over as in what happens when you combine sharks with a tornado -- >> you're going to need a bigger boat. >> social media jumped on the bandwagon. >> facebook with wild women. >> we've created a sharknado moment. >> now it is headed for the big apple. >> there is a sequel. >> it is almost ridiculous not to do a sequel. >> taking place in new york city and this week's top trender. return of the cheney. >> i am watching may candidacy
for the united states senate. >> i thought we were friends. >> liz cheney has just provoked a republican party family feud. >> i don't know that anybody can outconservative mike enzi. >> she is a second generation of cheney. >> are you going on run in 2016? >> bush 41, bush 43, bush 45? >> you're going to need a bigger fight. >> joining me now, syndicated columnist and editor-in-chief for the contributor dot com. we're jumping off the boat a little bit. could we actually see another bush/cheney ticket? i think that liz cheney isn't thinking about the snaflt i think she is thinking about national office. she is just looking for something to propel her. >> i think the moral of the story here is, that if you're invited to a cheney barbecue, be careful. they're clearly cannibals.
>> they are. they will stop -- they are going for the jugular against their own friends. >> here you have mike enzi. the fifth most conservative member of the senate. again and again, he wants to privatize social security he is not conservative enough for them. this would be like joseph getting primaried. >> can she win in wyoming? >> she has been then to raise a boat load of money. she has her name, she has the loyalty of many republicans in this country. this will split the party. it is only wyoming for a little while. >> that's true. there was not a bunch of people cheering. this smell like a vanity project. daddy is helping her out. the people who should support her are kind of mad at her. >> oriole, enzi is you have 30
points. the number are pretty staggering. enzi has i guess could you say the loyalty and the friendship of the people of wyoming. but i think we should point out, wyoming is a rural state. the media markets are very inexpensive. with her ability to raise money, this could be wide open. i would not believe that poll for very long. >> that's an incredibly good point. this is a state where there are as many congress people, or more senators than congress peel. it is almost the most inexpensive place to run. >> it is perfect. >> she would have to pay more to run for congress. >> is she a radical? >> absolutely. >> is she necessary for the republican because of the war on women and all the problems they've had demographically? >> i don't think she even goes into that kind of calculations. i think here's a woman whose father got her a job at the state department who doesn't even know that czechoslovakia hasn't existed since the '70s but still went after the president for ignoring them.
>> one advantage she has over enzi is money. one big part of a frazer is staying out of the race. >> that's up to the people of wyoming. liz is a friend of mine i respect senator enzi. this is up to the people of wyoming. they don't need a texan coming in there. >> carl rove, you are disloyal to someone already in the senate. mike enzi has to finish like i'm not going fishing with that guy. >> that is not a full throated endorsement. >> what does this do to the party? is this a big spat? >> i hope so. i love to see them fight amongst themselves. i think the important thing historically is to think about what that to the wig party? right? they had the know nothings, they basically killed the wig party. you're seeing the same exact
thing happen to the republicans. they have tea party, the extremists who are basically now, a cannibalism. >> i think she is a player on the national scene. i really do. thank you for joining us. detroit gets rocked by bad republican policies. we'll look at how the city's bankruptcy is impacting middle class workers. and more bad news for chicago public schools. chicago student shawn johnson joins me to discuss the latest blow to public education. but next, i'm taking your questions. ask ed live just ahead. ♪ for the multitasker, getting the most from every dollar. for the visionary, seeing cash coming in and going out. for the dreamer, checking that retirement is right on track. for the cfo, making sure assets are working overtime. for over 160 years, pnc has been part of the communities we serve, providing tools, guidance and experience
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of time before the mid terms, it is just too heavy of a lift and it is not a priority. and of course, with republican obstruction, i don't know how anybody is going to increase public sector jobs. it takes cooperation, which you are not going to find in washington. our next question is from beth. can you, unions honestly bounce back? look at it this way. if unions were not powerful, republican governors wouldn't spend so much time villifying them. go ask if he thinks they have influence? when you ask about influence, it is not always money. it is the heart. the desire. it is the phone calls. it is the knocking on the doors. it is walking on the lines. it is talking to the people about the issues. it is educating americans on what is important to workers. that is what scares the hell out of republican governors and the republican party. so the question, can the unions
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it was very painful situation. the rash was on my right hip, going all the way down my leg. i'm very athletic and i swim in the ocean. shingles forced me out of the water. the doctor asked me "did you have chickenpox when you were a child?" the pain level was so high, it became unbearable. michigan used to be a symbol of industrial strength in manufacturing in this country. but thanks to a lot of republican policies, the city is now filing for bankruptcy. now, it is the largest public sector bankruptcy in u.s. history. and the consequences could be devastating if you care about
people. the already small force of police, firefighters and emts are in danger of future layoffs. that will only make it worse. roughly 30,000 retired workers are concern about their pensions. you know, what they're counting on. make no mistake detroit going bankrupt is exactly what the republicans want. they outsource manufacturing jobs, attack unions, cut public services and this is the result. now they can wipe the slate clean. they can start privatizing at this assets. no surprise rick schneider is behind the bankruptcy filing. and of course, the republican governor said on friday, bankruptcy would do what? it would be great for detroit? >> this is a last resort. it is something i would have preferred to avoid. but now that it's here, this is the way to solve the problem. this is about 60 years of decline. 60 years in many cases of kicking the can down the road.
not being realistic and not solving the problems which is debt and senior citizens. we have an opportunity to deal with $18 billion in liabilities. and even more importantly than the debt question, there is an tub to say how do we get better assistance to citizens. >> it sounds so easy, doesn't it? the governor of michigan said he wants to improve public services. but he is doing the exact opposite. earlier this year he pointed to kevin omp rr who has taken over detroit's finances. this, bottom line here, an unelected official who began selling off public assets and slashing public services. detroit has one-third of the ambulances in operation. the average emergency response time for police in the city is 58 minutes. and when you have horrible public services, to one wants to live in the city. which means less tax revenue to fix all the problems in the needs of the public.
it is a very vicious cycle. it is the republican way. and the emergency city manager is to blame. orr's job was to save detroit was collapse. he failed miserably and now he gets to manage the bankruptcy? one of his major targets is public pensions. >> pensions have been at the forefront more acutely in the past eight years when we borrowed 1.5 billion supposedly to fix the issue back in 2005. we're going on all treat both classes of predators equally. secured will get paid in fulfill because of the dire circumstances and the magnitude of the debt, we can't treat all insecurities being paid in full they're going to have to participate. >> bottom line is that the city made a commitment they can't live up to so it is the workers' fault. on friday the judge ruled the bankruptcy was unconstitutional. it violates state law to lessen
public pension benefits. it will be a fight. a short time later, the michigan attorney general challenged the judge's ruling. it is possible this fight could go all the way to the michigan supreme court. i think you can count on it. for more, let's turn to bernie sanders from verlt. good to have you with us. the template i think is being set by the conservatives that if they can get detroit to go through this, won't be so hard for other cities to do the same thing and the road to privatization starts. your thoughts on this. is this a slippery slope? >> it absolutely is. not only the road toward privatization. i'll tell you what else it is. if in detroit as a result of the bankruptcy process, you see massive cuts in the pensions that workers there work for, were promised. if you think that other cities and other states throughout this country will not be saying hey, see that. see what detroit did. we can also make massive cuts in the pensions we promised our workers. another attack on the working
class in this country. furthermore, i think what you're seeing in detroit is the result of horrendous trade policies that have gone on for decades which are resulted in the shutdowns of tens of thousands of factories in america. detroit used to be the able leader of not only our country but of the world. and yet now germany produced twice the able that's we destroilization has a lot to do with the economic situation. >> and we bailed out wall street. we have come to the rescue of others. the able industry got a loan. they have survive and done a lot better. why is it the federal government in a position or of the philosophy to help out a city that once actually arguably saved this country back in the middle of the last century when we had to arm. we were able to make things. we saved the world. now look at detroit. now we want to kick him into the
river and float away. why can't we have federal health? what is the roadblock here? >> well, the roadblock is that our friends on wall street and the major corporations of the country we'll incredible power in the congress and in the white house. they are right now all over the congress now fighting for lower taxes for themselves. at the same time as they want to cut social security and medicare and medicaid. but if there is a silver lining in all of what is happening in detroit, i'll tell what you it is. it may be a focus on the disparities we're seeing in america today. do you know what unemployment is today? it is 18%. do you know what black youth unemployment is in america? 40%. the other day, the president was on television talking about trayvon martin. and i thought that was a very moving speech. i hope he now begins to talk about what is happening to millions of african-american kids and young people in general in this country. who as a result of this
disastrous economy are unable to get even entry level jobs. >> the president made a comment, he didn't know if he was talking about a new federal program or not. he wants to do something to help young people. i think there are more members in congress that believe this that want to be counted. there is nothing wrong with the federal program to put people back to work. you occupy kids, give them something to do, they come home at night tired. the next thing you know, they stay out of trul. what's wrong with a major jobs program to, with federal dollars, to occupy kids. to give them opportunities. to get them some revenue. to give them a chance to get some dignity back and some self-esteem and go forward. >> it is not only i'm for it. it is part of the immigration bill. i passed the billion and a half dollar jobs program for youth. 400,000 kids in a two-year period back to work. is that enough? no.
is that a start? yes. what's going on in america is the people on top are doing phenomenally well and we are not paying attention to the fact that real unemployment is 14% in this country. hare for minorities. higher for young people. higher for people in cities like detroit. so we need not only a significant jobs program for our young people. we need to understand that the great crisis in this country today is large scale unemployment and lower wages. while we're seeing an uptick in detroit for able manufacturing, let's not forget thatle of the new workers getting into these companies, are earning substantially less than older workers. >> i want to play -- go ahead. >> the important point is we have to focus on the economy and creating a millions of jobs. >> we do. everybody's attitude changes when you have a job. i want to play a clip of governor snyder talking about the detroit city government. here it is.
>> we need to resolve this issue with city government in detroit. that's the last obstacle in my view to say now we can grow detroit. we can be the great city that it deserves to be again. that's important to making michigan a great state. that is so fraud lent on his part. this whole thing is about the emergency city manager's law where you circumvent local elections and bring somebody in who is appointed to run it the way he runs. what's your response? >> i guess i'm kind of old-fashioned and conservative. i believe in democracy. and i believe in the right, as a former mayor, i believe in the right of people to elected their local government. >> and that is being taken away by the very people who are having this cast upon them. i don't think anybody would vote to take their pension away. always great to have you on the ed show. tonight in our survey, i asked you, should there be a race relations class in every school in america?
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show." this is the story for the folks who take a shower after work, the working folk of america. chicago public schoolworkers are once again under attack. it just doesn't seem to stop. friday, over 2,000 teachers and staff received a pink slip in the mail. this comes just after one month rahm emanuel's decision to close 49 public schools. the city closings resulted in the firing of 850 teachers and staffers. they're out. the district blames the $1 billion budget deficit on their inability to reform teachers' pensions. cps has also postponed an additional $52 million in reductions. this leaves many bracing for even more cuts. chicago teachers union president cara lewis expressed her frustration saying, once again, cps has lied to parentses, employees and the public about keeping the new school-based budget cuts away from the classroom.
now, the backdrop in all of this is that the city of chicago is one of the most dangerous cities in the country. rahm emanuel's plan seems to be closing schools instead of investing in neighborhoods. kind of cutting your losses instead of investing in people in your neighborhoods. the mayor of chicago, what is he doing? i think he's picking and choosing neighborhoods where it's unnecessary. for more, i'm joined by chicago public school activist shoniece reynolds and her son. great to have you both with us once again. how are the teachers reacting to this? this news comes as a real slam. >> it's devastating. a couple of teachers, a lot of teachers that i know that i'm close with, got phone calls only yesterday. some of them even get phone calls to their mom, not even the respect to call them. we're very devastated. we have lost 2,100 educators and paraprofessionals with the school-based budgeting.
as well as the 850 that we lost from the 50 school closings. we are standing up and fighting back. we are taking action. and right now, we're just keeping in prayer with each other and keeping each other lifted. >> shoniece, are these mostly socially economically challenged neighborhoods? explain them. >> they are low income african-american communities and latino communities where the schools were closed. but as far as the budget cuts, those are all across the city. kelly high school, predominantly latino. african-american school. they have lost their band and their instructor. so they don't have any music. marcus garvey lost three classroom teachers. we didn't lose music or art, but we lost three classroom teachers. and we already have 25 children in the classroom. so it's really all across the city, we experienced budget cuts.
gang park, one of my fellow teachers, a couple of other schools. >> do you think this can be avoided? >> i think so. i know it could. >> sean, how do you feel about this? you have said that the resources aren't being distributed fairly. what do you make of this now? >> well, i think that it's very sad that all the teachers, plus my teachers, have been cut off because of the budget cuts. and that even though we had to have ipads, like they are going to give us ipads, it's still a loss because that is not enough. we still need those teachers in the classrooms. like my mom said, they said they wasn't going to do budget cuts on the classroom but they still did. >> asean, what do you think about the neighborhoods that are being picked on? is that fair? >> no, that is not fair what rahm -- well, what mayor emanuel is doing. to our neighborhoods. >> what would you say to the
mayor right now? you've spoken out in the past -- you've said that rahm emanuel is more interested in building prisons than schools. is this kind of what you're talking about? >> it's exactly what i'm talking about. because if he closes more schools, he's going to build more prisons. and honestly, the amount of kids that they are going to be like -- they might drop out of school because it's devastating that they had to lose their old schools where they first met, where they first met their friends. and it's devastating to the children. and it's devastating to, like, maybe if they had a generation, like, for my school, marcus godfrey, we had generations and generations. and to see that school fall, it's like wiping out a whole generation of kids who went there and they're passing that on to their grandchildren and their children.
>> if we think that 9-year-old kids can't consume what's going on, we are wrong. what message are we sending to young people in this country when we brazenly just go after neighborhoods that don't have the resources? shoniece, quickly, what's the game plan on the ground to respond to this? >> the game plan is to get organized, self purification. first, we need to educate ourselves. we want to educate all of the members and all of the city of what's going on in chicago. and get organized. i'm organizing communities all summer with the chicago teachers union. and we are taking action. we are standing up and fighting back. we are not going down without a fight. this is 3,000 educators. these are 50 schools that are closing. budget cuts all across the city of chicago. but depaul is getting a $55 million stadium and other businesses. >> shoniece reynolds, thanks for standing up.
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