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would you want to buy in on twitter ipo? >> marks, i love twitter on my t not my portfolio. >> let's see how this company trades. steve rattner and a whole bunch of chat on it on "morning joe," which starts right now. ♪ it would be speculating about somebody who wasn't doing their job well. speculating about me means i'm continuing to do my job well. if i'm doing my job well it's good for people here. i don't see it as a burden. you got to have a huge ego to say oh, please it's a burden for you speculating on me to be the leader of the free world. that's a pretty huge ego to be
complaining about that. it's complimentary and i'm flattered. >> good morning. it's thursday, november 7th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set -- >> you introduce and i ask. >> no, no. >> i'll ask that question. >> no. >> you can take all the time you want. >> no. >> i'm going jump straight to it. chris christie, we love him. he's wallowing in this. you did this. i love that zoom in. like that 1972 candidate. >> chris christie represents all the hopes and dreams. >> just answer the question now. just shut up now. come on. >> political talk, just stop it. answer the question. answer the question, if you will. if you were managing chris
christie, would you tell him to wallow in this just a little bit? >> he's not. >> i don't anybody manages chris christie. >> okay. >> but i think that to make sure that this moment is about a rise to national prominence, about a rise to winning national elections he should stop. he should stop. >> you should 0 stop. shut up. designee doesn't have to say anything. everybody else is saying it for him. >> by the way, here's the biggest sign that he's a big problem and, you shut up. okay. just be quiet. look at the knives that are coming out in the republican party. like trying to compliment him in a backhanded way. wait until you hear what they say. how's the beard? >> itchy. >> can i feel it? >> oh, yeah. >> later. >> i want to know what that's like.
that doesn't look good. >> no. >> not good first thing in the morning. please don't go close up. >> tight zoom. >> i'll come over there and check it out. >> you let me do the news and shut up. >> that's the third time you told me to shut up. >> i got one too. >> but i'm ahead by two. >> and he's elegant, thank god. the rest of us -- no, you're elegant. >> we pride ourselves on being a civil television show. shut up. you shut up. >> i've never been told to shut up. >> not you. >> nicole wouldn't, willie wouldn't. >> you told me to shut up three times. >> i know. nobody notices when i do it. >> you're mean there. >> shut up. >> i can go that's nice outfit and beautiful -- >> we could have one of those shows where i hit you.
we've had those before. >> get blamed for that. >> you get bruises and you get in trouble for that. if you want that to happen keep going down that road, all right. it certainly didn't take long hours after a landslide re-election victory new jersey governor chris christie faced questions about running for president in 2016. what is he supposed to do. joe, be quiet. he said he's flattered by the talk. >> i'm a better executive today than i was when i answered those questions about two years ago. and so you would think that would make me better prepared to be president. but i'll be really clear about this. i have a job to do. i got re-elected last night. that's the job i'm going to do. if the time comes i change my mind i'll tell the people of new jersey i want to do something else. >> christie's strong win
combined with ken cuccinelli's loss in governor's race have many republicans questioning whether it's time to limit the influence of the tea party influence of the gop. but republicans that could challenge chris christie did not get that memo. here we go. after christie's win, senator marco rubio was quoted saying, i think we need to under that some of these races don't apply to future races, everyonery race is different. it has a different set of factors. >> that's not gracious. >> no. >> if you win by like 800 points in a state that barack obama won by 800 points, you take a look at that, don't you, nicole? >> absolutely. >> you congratulate him and say wow he's a contender. >> you all said that chris christie wasn't wallowing in it. marco rubio, you would say to him be gracious. it's the day after.
>> you would at least be as gracious as the democrats. i don't know when as a party we'll wake up and realize that as long as the targets of our ire remain each other. >> seriously, if you think that he's a contender the best thing you ought to do is support him. because if you say things like this it shows you're really threatened. >> so, what there's more. it wasn't just marco >> no. senator ted cruz. them. i think it's terrific that the ones ruining the republican party -- i think it's terrific he's brass, that he is outspoken, and that he won his race. but i think we need more leaders in washington with the courage to stand for principle and in particular obama care is not working. wait. >> what happened? >> he doesn't stand on principle. he basically had a death match. >> he's great. now i feel he's overshadowed.
>> that's a man thing too. >> no it's pitiful. >> how could anybody say chris christie doesn't stand on his principle. i heard somebody say yesterday, i forget which one it was but somebody on the radio said if chris christie wants to prove that he's conservative he has to call barack obama a liar. >> i know who that was. >> i don't. i don't want to know. the standard. that's our standard. doesn't have to do with ideology. >> heard that and i thought why are we putting ourselves and our own party through litmus tests and setting ourselves and each other up for party. >> how did ronald reagan call jimmy carter a liar? no. never. by the way, you're exactly right, mika. we should at least as republicans be as gracious to each other as democrats are to us. >> so what do you do if somebody
is a potential threat to you? >> i go hug them. if i'm about to fire somebody i give them a raise. when people get a raise oh, oh, they are being nice to me. you embrace people that might be running against you. >> you have to be confident. >> you can't look small. >> speaking of that, senator rand paul at a senate hearing launched an attack on superstorm sandy recovery efforts. look at this. the first two were good. this one is a zinger. criticizing governor christie who just won historic re-election in new jersey for appearing in ads entitled stronger than the storm to help tourism. >> these ad, people running for office put their mug all over these ads while they are in the middle of a political campaign. in new jersey, 25 million was spent on apds that included somebody running for political office. you think there might be a
conflict of interest there? that's a real problem. that's why when people who are trying to do good and trying to use taxpayers money wisely they are offended to see our money spent on political ads. that's just offensive. >> did he get that off of wikipedia. >> he did that in a hearing? >> yes. >> oh, my god. >> who is he questioning? >> that was the secretary of -- >> they are obviously all scared of him. that's what this is all about. they are all scared of him. >> willie -- >> there could be more. >> you want to be gracious. >> they want to be specific about why he doesn't quote stand on principle. >> how about holding off just a couple of days. i'm thinking huge win, congratulations are in order. >> president obama called chris
christie yesterday to congratulate him. we've gone down the list. low tax. took on the teacher's unions. if you're a conservative you presumably like. he's against gay marriage. he's against abortion. the things they point to is that he's so-so on climate change. he believes it's real and partially manmade. so if you're looking for a candidate 100% pure you're looking for a long time. >> you have ken cuccinelli. >> and you lose. >> i actually think there's some instances in which marco and ted cruz speak for some republicans. i don't think this is one of them. i think this is an instance where republicans around the country are hungry to win, they are wildly attracted to chris christie's straight talk and attracted to the idea that republicans could recapture the white house. >> that's republicans around the country. what is the republican party going to do. they didn't invite him to cpac.
they are scared of him. one of the things that was in that earlier clip that truck me, i don't think he's been as outspoken on obama care as the republican dogma has been. he's been quiet about that. >> he was running for re-election of governor. >> i'm saying. >> there's plenty of time. >> the republican litmus test and don't throw yourself in front of obama care. >> you mean like congress that shutdown the government? okay. >> so much of this, i mean -- >> it's past. >> you got, nicole, you know so much of this is the right-wing noise machine. in 2008 every single conservative talker, everyone was against -- everyone, including myself we were all against john mccain. we worked every day against john mccain. and john mccain won. i mean you name somebody that a
talk radio show with a billion listeners a day they were all against mccain. mccain won. 2012, none of them except hugh hewitt supported mitt romney. rush at one point said he might not even vote for mitt romney. but anyway obviously mitt wasn't conservative enough for me but they run. they won the primaries. this noise all it does is it hurts our brand nationally and then we end up electing guys like chris christie anyway. >> what happens independent voters who are largely made up of women voters see republicans attacking republicans. so when they get in the ballot box they say how good can he be, his own party doesn't like him or her. the thing that strikes me and the thing we'll never know if
ted cruz hadn't shut down the government to achieve an unachievable goal might obama care have been a bigger issue in virginia. >> of course. there's no doubt if the republicans -- take the republican party -- if the republican party brand had not dropped 10 points nationwide in virginia over that month or two, k cuccinelli would be governor right now. >> terry mcauliffe's victory have some democrats worried about their future. >> they should be. >> yesterday the president met with a group of 16 senators who are frustrated with the roll out of obama care. they are concerned. its trouble launch may come back to haunt them during next year's mid-term elections. democrats believe cuccinelli was able to narrow the gap in virginia after focusing on obama
care during the final weeks of the campaign. exit polling showed 53% of virginia voters were opposed to the health care law. of those voters 81% voted for cuccinelli. also yesterday the president flew to texas where he was critical of the state's lawmakers for not opting into obama care. >> one of the things that sometimes gets me a little frustrated although i understand it because i'm in politics is folks who are complaining about how the website is not working, and why isn't obama fixing this and all these people are uninsured and yet they are leaving a million people right now without health insurance that they could immediately fix. there's not a lot of logic. >> okay. that was inspiring. what next? what? >> i think he's working on
fixing the problem. >> was that kind of like the berlin speech where you swept to your feet rhetorically. >> he was set up terribly and the roll out was terrible. if they can fix it. they have tech experts in there. if they can get people signed up all this chatter will be forgotten. >> so steve rattner i talked to two people from pensacola yesterday. one had -- one has two children with pre-existing conditions that can't get health insurance. and they went online. they signed up. they got a great plan through blue cross of florida in about 30 minutes and said it was the greatest thing ever and their two kids that have pre-existing conditions can do it. then i heard from somebody else
who got on and tried to get it and could never get past the second or third screen. one person said it was a republican, greatest thing ever and the other a democrat who couldn't get on was frustrated and angry. the point is, obviously, if you start having a lot more americans with that first story, being able to tell that story around communities, then it will do more than any 30 seconds ads run during political shows at night could ever do. if they file like in the second instance it doesn't matter what barack obama says or does. it fails. >> first, the website is what it is, disaster. we all agree. that's going to get fixed. that's a technological problem. it's not an insurmountable problem. we're trying to get a website to work. the bigger question is how many people will sign up and what are the rates for those who do.
you need younger healthier people in the pools to keep the rates down so your two friends with pre-existing conditions can get insurance at a reasonable rate. that the jury is out. it worked in massachusetts. it's not looking good in the early months. the question is how will it unfold. the president unfortunately got himself in a box on two issues. one nobody would lose their health insurance no matter what and the other idea is not everybody will be better off. some will have to pay more. that's the nature of insurance. for every story of yours, there's an editorial in "journal" where a woman can't get insurance and is very sick. it's a year to the mid-term elections. the website will be a memory by then. the question is are people signed up. >> we'll get back to this but we have another big story this morning. later today twitter will begin trading on the new york stock
exchange. the company has listed its initial public offering at $26 a share. it's the largest technology ipo since facebook debuted last year. >> so steve should willie and i buy this stock? >> willie asked me that before. i didn't want to answer off camera. >> i know. i heard that. i pretended i didn't hear it. i asked you on camera. >> steve, should i buy twitter? let's talk about the price. $26 a share at ipo. a little bit higher than people expected. >> sure because what happens in an ipo they go through a marketing process and there was a lot of demand for this. they kept raising the price at which it would be offered up to $27. it's interesting to compare twitter to two other big ipos, facebook and google. let's start by look at how long these companies have been in business because this gives you a baseline.
google had been in business six years when it public. facebook eight. twitter seven. here's the big difference. google had $3 billion. facebook had $5 billion and twitter has $640 million of revenue when it's going public. much smaller company. same is true as of profits. google was making money. facebook was making a tiny bit of money. twitter is losing money. so that gives you a little bit of the background. >> is there a chance to sell ads on twitter. >> they will sell ads. >> tougher for facebook. that's because you cut in specifically to your interest, people can see what your timelines look like. >> facebook does that too. >> they don't do it well. >> they do it to the tune of six or seven billion ad revenue. >> they've gotten better.
>> who is that? >> facebook. >> they were doing better? >> they were doing poorly. >> the stock is up. >> we said -- we called it. >> all right so when you translate that whether you should buy the stock or not one thing you should look at is where will this come as a multiple. when google went public it was the two times its revenues. facebook was at 20 times its revenues and twitter is 28 times its revenues. this is coming at a much higher multiple than the other two. you can factor that into your decision as to whether to buy or not. i want to give you one last word of caution, willie. they don't always go up. here's what happened to five recent ipo, companies you all know. six months after the ipo gogle had doubled. linkedin was up 60%. facebook down 40%. >> maybe you wait six months.
>> now facebook has since recovered and is up about 30%. google has done great. linked in has done great. zynga and groupon is still sitting down there. >> on wall street, what are the potential down falls to investing in twitter and what's the big upside for twitter? >> the downfall is the stock is very expensive and is predicated on twitter continuing to grow at a fast rate and if they slip a step as facebook looked like they were doing which is why that stock plummeted, then the stock could collapse. the upside is that as joe said it's a very fast growing service. it's got 650 million revenue. and, you know, google today, if you bought google at its ipo it's up 12 times since its ipo. >> sounds like a buy to me. >> it sounds like a buy. >> it's bet. take the money you were going to put on the horses willie.
>> by the way, the dog -- >> buy with money you can afford to lose. >> you can't get through that wall of trust. i can't believe it. >> you knew i was going to be a hedge fund guy. >> you're a born hedge fund guy. >> other than that i was going to be -- i am. >> you would be a great hedge fund guy. >> coming up on "morning joe" we're going to talk to former white house press secretary to president clinton, deedee myer, chuck todd will talk to us later and later actress debra jo rupp playing a sex therapist. >> dr. ruth? >> no along the same lines.
>> really? >> the thing we got to do -- >> nicole, you might want to be here for this one. anyhow, also more on today's big twitter ipo, the author of a brand new book. up next the top stories in the politico playbook. speaking of dr. ruth. >> don't go there with him. >> the sex therapy session is what time? >> what do do i? >> here's bill karins with a check on the forecast. >> good morning, everyone. today we have a little bit of light main heading through the northeast and mid-atlantic. not too significant to cause too many delays but washington, d.c., philly, new york, boston and our friend in the pacific northwest have a pretty good
storm. seattle and portland airport concerns. you can see the light rain on the map. two to three hours from syracuse to binghampton to scranton and work its way through new england. bring the umbrella with you. as far as the heaviest rain going targeting southern new england, central new england around 2:00 this afternoon a lot of you will drive to work. the rain will be over with during the day. when you drive home the roads should be cleared out. we'll be watching the rain ending this morning and there is like pittsburgh the middle of the country you're dry and cooler today and i mentioned that storm in the northwest. have you heard about this super typhoon? this is sue per typhoon yolanda. one of the bigger stories of the world. it has 12 hours until the strongest storm on the planet this year makes landfall in the central philippines. look at the center eye on this. this is equivalent of our category 5 hurricanes we get like a katrina so we feel and wish everybody in the philippines the best as that
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plans focus on demand and streaming services moving forward. >> the "san francisco chronicle" after weeks of speculation google has broken its silence about that mystery floating barge out in san francisco. the company said it's exploring using the site as a place where people can learn about its new innovations and technology. mystery barge was spotted in portland, maine. reports said it could rival apple stores. >> from the "chicago tribune" a video captures a standoff between a motorist and a cab driver that place like a real life version of grand theft auto. the driver of the black suv is involved in ooh fender bender with the tax i. driver gets out of his car but the driver of the suv decides to try to escape. that leads to another collision and then a double kwligs the original cab and another suv. five collisions in all. >> oh, my lord. >> police say it was a stolen car and the driver is in
custody. >> goodness gracious i don't think he ever played grand theft auto. >> "boston globe," vice president biden congratulates the wrong martin walsh. >> let's say you're sitting in your living room, sitting with your wife on a tuesday night. phone rings. guess who it is. the vice president of the united states congratulating on you becoming the next mayor of boston. son of a gun, you did it. problem. different marty walsh. >> i hate it when that happens. >> it happens to the best of them. >> tough month. debbie wasserman-schultz did the same thing? >> sure. his name would be in the list of contacts not the guy who became mayor. >> he gets it. >> can't run websites.
can't place calls. >> stop it. >> i kid because i love. >> that's the bidenist biden thing. >> you son of a gun, marty. >> all right. let's go to politico the chief white house correspondent -- >> you know what, willie, there's only one mike allen. >> there is. we like it better when you're up here. good morning. >> good morning, guys. >> so let's talk a little bit about new york city mayor michael bloomberg. he says terry mcauliffe's win in virginia is a big loss for the near? -- nra. >> is it a mistake for michael bloomberg to spend money in virginia and talking about the gun's issue. signs are that it helped terry mcauliffe and virginia is the headquarters of the national rifle association, ken cuccinelli the republican who had an a-rating from the nra went down. the nra did not like terry
mcauliffe and yet he triumphed. the mayor shows in the nra's backyard a state that's traditionally00er friendly, gun friendly, someone can win. also yesterday we learned what mayor bloomberg's day job is going to be after he leaves the mayor's office at the beginning of january. our colleagues at capital new york which is now part of the politico empire reported that the mayor will work at bloomberg view, the opinion part of bloomberg. he'll be writing some high-profile pieces of his own. getting top contributors. his new title after being mayor of new york city may be chairman of bloomberg view. >> steve rattner you've known mike bloomberg for a very long time. eem focus on his charitable stuff, foundation. what does his future look like? >> it's going lot bigger and a lot more than writing a few
op-ed pieces here and there. that's a piece of the puzzle. but there's a lot more to come. >> bill de blasio and mayor bloomberg had a meeting yesterday. you can see how they hit it off. >> notice the clock. >> can we zoom in there? >> up here. >> zoom in. >> look how much they love each other. >> but also notice there's a clock. >> there is a clock. >> that's not a warm fuzzy, that's more like a cold prickly. >> yes it is. mike allen the one and only. mike, thanks so much. have a great day. >> coming up next an update on the harassment accusations surrounding incognito. and how his teammates are rallying around him. is
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martin'sing agent called last month complaining about the treatment of his client about his teammates. citing multiple team sources dolphins' coach asked to toughen up martin. martin left the week earlier amid claims of bullying and a racially charged voice mail left by incognito. nfl commissioner roger goodell apoint ad special counsel to assist in the investigation. some teammates are speaking out in support of ritchie incognito. >> i know ritchie personally. i've been around this guy for four years. >> we have a system of basically that's just a big joke. it keeps things light in the room. everyone participates. no one is exempt. >> you've seen pictures of him playing around. they are always playing around. >> it's a big family.
>> if you would ask john martin a week before who was his best friend on the team was he would say ritchie incognito. first guy to stand up for him on the field, ritchie was there. when they want to hang outside of football, who was together. ritchie and jonathan. >> if, if the coach asked him to toughen up john martin why would they ask a racist bully arch rival of person to do that. we never put him in harm's way. if we did we're sorry. we did not. the challenge of the leadership and character of this locker room is wrong. period. >> pretty strong. not him but the guy before that, ryan tannehill is the quarterback. he knows this offensive line very well. he said martin and incognito were the best of friends. he was shocked to hear this allegation. he said the characterization is untrue. it's hard to put if those voice males are incog fitto, it's really hard to put them in any
context other than bullying or harassment or given the language that was in there unless they have some relationship. >> >> part of an abusive relationship if there's a relationship. this is human, you know, human behavior. human relations. human intelligence. i don't buy their explanation. >> the locker room, a lot of stuff goes on in the locker room, the bullying goes on in the locker room. the hazing. that's part of it. we shouldn't sit here on the set and judge. that said there are extraordinarily racist messages left on phones. that are now public. the miami dolphins should not have white guys going out here explaining what a great guy ritchie and incognito are and this is part of whatever. if there are african-americans on the miami dolphins that feel comfortable vouching for his character and saying -- i know we had a clip of one teammate
doing that. they had four or five white guys saying there's nothing to this. really? the dolphins need to get their act together on this front. >> there's been a couple of african-american players who have spoken out in defense of incognito. it's that -- hey this is the culture. this is the way things go. this doesn't explain some of this stuff. jonathan martin left the team for a reason. he wasn't cool on what was going on. he needs an explanation what forced him to leave. >> listen to the voice males. they are terrible. racist and horrific. >> we don't know their relationship but it's hard to put that in any other context than racist. one other big story out of the nfl former nfl superstar tony dorsett confirmed he has a condition linked to depression and dementia. the 59-year-old cowboys hall of famer said the news hit him like a ton of bricks.
according to espn three other former players have also been diagnosed. >> here we go. >> starting to turn into boxing. we saw what happened to boxers. we've seen players taking their own lives because they can't deal with the depression and everything that comes with it. you have a face like tony dorsett who is the biggest star there was in his era. >> where does this go for the nfl as a sport. where does this go for football. you talk about high school, pro, whatever. >> they recognize ad huge problem and trying to make rule changes. can't go after the head. they are calling some of these plays very differently. can't take away contact. these guys are 6'3", 250 and run 440s. they are in train wrecks and car accidents every time they collide with each other. these injuries will continue. >> i saw high school football team in practice had an extra sort of layer of protection.
first time i had seen that on the helmets. it is. these guys are going faster than ever before. you know, they are, you know, don't know if they are on hgh or what they are on but man they are going faster and stronger. than they ever seem to be >> you're right. >> it's a car accident every 15 seconds. >> go stand on field level during an nfl game it's so scary. they are big and fast and it's a mini car accident and it's a problem for football. if you're a parent now and see tony dorsett i have dementia from playing the game. >> would you let your kids play football? >> no. >> played it from the time i was 6 years old. >> that explains a lot. >> but right now i would not. to what end? >> all right. coming up next proof that a republican can win over the middle. joe explains how chris christie did it in one of the cover stories of this week's "time"
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talk radio republicans demanded blood. tea party leaders branded him a traitor. christie, however, didn't give a damn. throughout the intradition party fight the jersey boy tore a page out of his hero bruce springsteen's song book and defiantly struck a no retreat baby no surrender pose against the withering right-wing rage. and now the november 5th election results suggest that brazen, christie style bipartisanship worked. >> chris christie looks like he's in it for the long game. >> certainly sounded like that on tuesday night. the long game for him, remember he's about to take over the republican governor's association which is basically like handing him a corporate
amex card. so, yeah. he's in a very strong position to raise a huge amount of money and build a network and collect ious and he's completely scrambled this race. >> let me ask nicole and joe, you're a consultant to governor christie. let's assume he decides he wants to run for president. what do you tell him over the next year and a half, two years, how could this be derailed. because if you look at it right now things are lining up for him. how could he screw this up? >> keep your eye on the ball and the ball is your day job. do well in your day job because if you don't do well in your day job, nothing else is going to matter anyway. it will all slip away very quickly. by the way, don't talk about it any more. keep your head down. you're governor of new jersey and nothing else. >> the only other thing i would add is be very judicious with our interactions with the national media. you're the governor of the new jersey. the new jersey press corps is
the press corps that's responsible for covering you and the people that voted for you and the taxpayers that pay your salary. i would issue that warning. >> you have joe who spoke the right path. then the double down boys. his rivals will use that against him. what is that? who are his rivals. if you ask that question this morning they are rand paul, marco rubio and ted cruz. >> we look at how the romney vetting team when they were looking at running mates what they learned about chris christie and concluded if he ran they could have destroyed him. they were bothered he would turn up late at events and his staff was a little overbearing but they were looking at things like a defamation suit settled against him about his spending patterns as u.s. attorney which the justice department had investigated. a civil settlement that his brother made with the s.e.c.
your typical research. then there were concerns about his health and feeling as though maybe christie was not forthcoming on things they were looking for. >> like what? >> answers to. like records for his health reports. romney was better saying we'll need more detail from him about this. ultimately as we know they decided to go in a different direction. >> nancy gibbs, thank you so much. the new issue of "time" is out. this is amazing timing for your book. let me talk about it because it thoops have the added value of being true between shutdown and this election. it's amazing. >> joe will be at columbia university's miller theater to talk about his brand new book "the right path." on tuesday at barnes and noble at union square. so check out our website, moj
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the highlights from country music's biggest night thursday, november 7th, 2013. from nbc news, this is "today" with matt lauer and savannah guthrie live from studio 1-a in rockefeller flaz za welcome to today on a thursday morning. olympian savannah guthrie. >> i'm matt lauer along al roker and natalie morales. this whole thing has been about raising awareness. you and i are going to get a prostate screening live on the air. men over 40 have to do this. they also have to practice moon river. >> they have to talk to their doctors. >> we're going to explain much more about that and take you through the process live but in
a very tasteful way. >> this is taking "today" show bonding experience to a whole new level. >> what are we going to do to top that off? >> don't ask. >> the olympic torch has traveled to a place it has never been before wechlt are talking about space. back on the ground, will so shi be ready in 91 days. there are concerns about everything from terrorism to the weather and the president of the so s sochi organizing committee is here the site of twitter, the site has changed the world. should you stop tweeting long enough to buy? carl quintanilla is over in the orange room a very big day. twitter is going public. they priced at $26 a share. with all those problems facebook went through when they went public last year, can the company with the little blue bird make some green? #ipo. today's opening bell kicks off one of wall street's most
anticipated days of the year. social media giant, twitter, goes public. >> the twitter iipo is a specia moment in their history. >> twitter dopt have a popularity problem but it has its sceptics, specially in the wake of problems facebook faced bh its stock went public last may. losing almost half its value in months. >> given the more recent launches, i'm a little bit skeptical. i would wait a while and see what everybody else does. >> it is not for me. i don't see the mon et tie zation of that. >> they are betting there is big money to make in under 142 characters. they have generated $142 million mainly from sponsor tweets and promoted trends featured on twitter home pages. twitter investors are banking on new profit strategies like recently announced tv
partnerships with comcast and nbc universal rg the parent company of nbc news which will bring new futures to your twitter feed. everything from setting your dvr to sports highlights from sponsored tv networks. >> the more we do those things and have platform partners building into twitter. >> the company is looking to go from trending to trading high. >> we are investing for the long-term. we think this is a long-term company, a company for which there is a fantastic use for every person on the planet s. >> it is worth noting even though facebook did have those problems, it has since gone up to $49 a share. $11 more than their ipo price of $38. >> for those of us that don't speak fluent cnbc, why does this matter? >> it is a chance for early investors to catch up. that's important to them. it is kind of like when a college athlete goes pro. you want to know how the rookie
season is going to go? how is their first game going to go? do they have the stuff to play with the big boys? >> you mentioned facebook. another example of a company that's extremely popular but isn't turning a profit right now. >> in social media, you get big or you get lost. it is not that they are not bringing in money. it is that they are putting it back into the business, hiring salespeople, buying servers. it is too easy to disappear if people don't know about you. >> would you advise somebody to invest? >> for the average joe, there is a lot of uncertainty in this space. there is a saying investing wise, don't play with the rest money. that probably applies with twitter. >> we'll send you over to matt. now, to politics with 1,097 days to go until election day, 2016, is the presidential race always underway. kelly o'donnell has been traveling with new jersey's newly reelected governor, chris christie. kelly good to see you. >> good to see you, matt, as
well. governor christie calls the height and questions over his run for the white house a compliment and not a distraction. "time" magazine is giving christy the cover. chris christie says he is most proud that as a republican he won the majority of new jersey's latino vote. >> if you want to make inroads into a community, you have to get there and work it. >> tapping right into the national curiosity about christie's prospects, they asked about the governor's future. >> four years from now, i will be out of a job, because they don't let me run again. >> his ambitions may go far beyond new jersey. at a lengthy news conference, he relished repeated questions about running for president. >> oh, please, it is such a burden of you speculating me to be the leader of the free world. stop, i'm so burden. that's a pretty huge ego to be
complaining about that. it is complimentary, flattering and no problem with it. >> do you feel to be president right now? >> i feel i'm a better executive. whether that would apply for me being a better president, i don't know. >> he is running hard against washington. >> nobody is amused or entertained or gratified by what's going on in washington, d.c. right now. no one. everyone is frustrated. look at the numbers. the numbers don't lie. people want effective government. they want government that gets things done christie is already poised to take on a national role as the new head of the republican governor's association giving him a ticket to travel the country, fundraise for his party and road test his popularity. >> thanks so much. the investigation into allegations of bullying by a miami dolphins player is getting some new high-powered help. nbc cary sanders is with the
dolphins. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, savannah. profootballtalk.com is reporting that the dolphins general manager was informed by jonathan martin's agent that martin was being bullied. the report goes on to say that the general manager's advice was to fight back, that jonathan martin should punch his alleged tormentor, richey incognito. the dolphins have not responded to this specific report. while the miami dolphins tried to stay focused on their game, the nfl has hired an independent investigator, prominent attorney, tell wells to look into allegations that say richey incognito bullied jonathan martin leaving him hate-filled phone messages. >> if the review reveals anything that needs to be corrected, we will take all necessary measures to fix it, to ensure that this doesn't happen
again. >> reporter: with reports surfacing that dolphin coaches pressed incognito to toughen up martin, head coach, jim philbin headed off information about the situation. martin remains out of sight. his father gave a brief answer when asked how his son was doing. incognito was seen driving his new ferrari wednesday. he wasn't answering questions but his glendale, arizona, high school football coach described him as a hard-working kid. >> he wasn't a boy scout but we never saw anything like this coming down the road. >> dolphin teammates say they didn't either. >> do you believe richey incognito was a racist? >> i can't understand this question. >> i know he don't mean it.
>> jonathan was like richie's little brother. it is a surprise what's going on. >> reporter: this morning, the dolphin's owner, steven ross, has issued a statement that says, in part, we take this situation seriously. as the owner, imcommitted to creating a professional environment for all of the members of the dolphins family, once the review is completed and i have all the facts, we will respond accordingly. jonathan martin, who reportedly had checked himself in for a local hospital for emotional distress is not expected to play in the next game, which is monday. >> thank you. this story is raising a lot of eyebrows. there are new questions surrounding the death of yasser arafat. some are saying this is the new evidence and accusation. >> it is amazing we are still
talking about arafat. he was a controversial figure in life and death. for years, there were allegations he was assassinated. what's new is a report that suggests there is proof. >> reporter: a palestinian gorilla fighter, a terrorist to many israelis, a nobel peace laureate. there is a report that says he may have been the victim of assassination. >> it is a political crime. it is a political assassination of a great leader. >> reporter: the proof is allegedly in arafat's bones. his remains exhumed a year ago. a team of swiss scientists in contact with the tv network, al jazeera said their findings moderately support the finding that the death was the result of poisoning with plutonium 210.
the scientists said the poison could have been planted in his food, drink, even toothpaste. >> reporter: anyone that looks at this report would have to conclude he had plu loan yum circulating in his body when he died. pel loan yum. the peace process had collapsed. israel had just retaken the pest bank and arafat was hold up in his compound when suddenly he fell ill. quickly, palestinian leaders blame israel. >> now, we know when and how. what we need is proof that the israeli occupation is responsible. israel denies it had any role in killing arafat and says, he was 75 and unhealthy, an aging man, not a target. >> an israeli spokesman this morning was dismissive of this study saying that israel has long been accused of wild conspiracy theories in the middle east. palestinians say, okay, how did this radioactive poisoning get
in his body. >> we will have to wait for those questions to be answered. thanks very much. >> for the first time, we are hearing frantic 911 calls from the shooting inside a crowded new jersey mall. nbc's ron allen has the story. >> reporter: it was about 9:20 p.m., minutes before closing time. >> there is somebody shooting. >> reporter: with hundreds of terrified shoppers and mall workers franticly began calling for help. >> somebody is shooting up garden state plaza right now. he had a motorcycle helmet on. >> a motorcycle helmet, okay. >> all black and he had a big, long gun. >> reporter: 20-year-old richard shoop, police say, had fired at least half a dozen blasts from an automatic rifle. >> we're hearing shots being fired next to the nordstroms store. >> stay on the phone and don't hang up. >> reporter: those trapped in the hall can loed themselves inside stores. >> we're in the bathroom. we didn't have time to lock the gate. >> reporter: some kept the 911
operators on the phone? >> do you still hear shooting? >> i haven't heard any but i don't hear any sirens. please hurry. >> reporter: finally, for these women, help arrived. >> okay, i hear a cop. >> all right. you wanna go talk to them? >> all right, sweetie, good luck. >> reporter: it took some six hours for police to find the gunman's body in a basement. he had shot and killed only himself. miraculously, thousands escaped the ordeal unharmed. ron allen, nbc news, new york. >> natalie is here now with a widening bribery scandal that's rocked the u.s. navy. it certainly has. this one, federal investigators say the scandal has reached high into the navy's corp. the massive overbilling scheme provided prostitutes, cash and many other kick backs in exchange for information. jim miklaszewski has the story. >> reporter: it is a high sea scandal that stretches from the u.s. to southeast asia. three navy
greatness. >> i do think eventually, i think it's starting now. ted cruz has come in, made a splash, established himself and he understands, ted cruz is not interested in having 20% of americans support him and 44% oppose him. he's upside down in the polls. he's a smart guy -- >> one of christive's strengths, ted cruz, i don't here him talking about the real people. he brings the focus back to the real life of the real people in his state and not leaving anybody behind and we're in the fight for every single new jerseyian. that's how you win elections. you get the focus off of ideology and get the focus off fighting with the other side and bring it back to the people. i think christie does it brilliantly.
clinton still does it brilliantly. >> it's so fundamental, those because you either understand and know real people or you don't. so you can't -- you either live in the real world and you understand the fight of your neighbor whose husband lost his job, lost their health insurance and you get it and you want to try to help. you go after work and try help them. or, you live in a world where you don't understand. >> an ideology world. people on the left do it. people on the right do it. one of ronald reagan's greatest lines against jimmy carter, a recession is, when your neighbor loses their job. a depression is when you lose your job. ronald reagan understood something that all of the presidents that republican nominees that ran after him didn't, understood what it was like to have a dad unemployed, to move from town to town, to go to eureka college. i love these guys. i love all of them. we have ronald reagan who went
to eureka. he was the son of the working class. after that you had a patrician in '88. then bob dole. in 2000 another bush. 2004 another bush. 2008 you had a guy whose dad helped run a navy. then a guy who ran a state and car company. i'm not saying those type of people can't being a great presidents but to your point you either get it and you understand people who hurt and you understand what it's like to drive around with your dad for a year and a half when he can't find a job or you don't. i remember a guy he was so shocked, very conservative and i was even more conservative in college but i had this experience, you know. middle class, whatever. i remember a kid saying in class, a fellow republican -- carl bernstein, he's on deck. i remember a kid, another
republican saying oh, anybody that wants a job can get a job. i almost got up and punched the guy. saying are you kidding me? i think that's the difference between the 47% republicans and the chris christie republicans. >> this is the most important lesson to take from this week. and the best political staffers in the world and you are at the top of that list cannot teach a politician -- you can't tell a politician to walk out and comfort a family where they don't have a job or health insurance, you can't tell a politician what to say to them. they either know what to say to that family or don't. >> when you come across one who gets it you know that's where you want to hit your star. you want to hitch your wagon to. there's things in politics you can teach and things you can't teach. >> we have to remind some people in the republican party to get that point. up next we have the mccarthy bell ready as you just heard. seriously?
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♪ here we are. well, hello there. >> hey, carl. we got to test our system. test our systems out. >> mccarthy -- >> erick cantor. >> robert taft. >> mr. taft's grandson wrote the book how the republican party of today had become like the republican party of mccarthy. i rest my case. >> you said mccarthy. >> bing. robert taft. let's talk about taft. >> with us from washington, we have nbc washington political
correspondent and host of the daily run down chuck todd. here at the table, a guy who is always fun to have on carl bernstein. chuck, really quickly. you're a dolphins fan too? are you a dolphins fan? >> not a big one. i really wasn't. my dad wasn't a big joe robbie fan. >> it's a big mess down there. >> it is. this team seems pretty divided. sounds like jonathan martin ought to go to another team if he comes back. >> all right. so, go ahead, you want to read. >> the cry of the true republicans by john taft? >> we'll go with that. >> this recent display of bomb throwing obstructionism by republicans in congress evokes another painful historically embarrassing chapter in the republican party, that of senator joseph mccarthy. whose anti-communist crusade was allowed by republican elders to
expand unchecked, unnecessarily and unfairly tarnishing the reputations of thousands of people with red scare accusations of communist affiliation. there's more than a passing sim later between joseph mccarthy and ted cruz. the republican party survived mccarthyism because ultimately its excesses caused it to burn out and eventually party elders in the mold of my grandfather were table realign the party with its brand promise, the republican party is or should be at long last about decency. what a long way we have yet to go. >> democratic party of segregation. same thing. great contribution of obama might be to help create a responsible republican party in the end. how's that. by what we're seeing now and the rejection of the tea party and the realization that you have to have a mainstream party and
obama has made monkeys out of this wedge that is now on the defensive. >> well, that's a good point. that another way of looking at it. >> so, what do you make? it's fascinating as bad as the republican party has acted over the past several months and their numbers have gone down, the president's numbers have gone down. isn't it right now, yes, i mean we've been critical of some of the things that republicans have done. but right now it's a pox on both their houses. >> it is a pox on the political class. we've been without one branch of the government working. congress is a dysfunctional institution. we can't have a successful united states of america until there's a restoration of three branches of government that work.
right now one doesn't work. period. >> the executive branch isn't doing swimmingly well right now. if you look what's been happening to kathy sebelius -- max baucus came in, talked to us one on one. he was in new york. this was before he announced his retirement, said what's the next year look like. he said, it was off the record, he said it on the record the other day, said i hope kathleen sebelius is up to handling the roll out of aca because right now i'm very concerned. this was last year. said i think next year is going to be really ugly. max baucus called it and he was scared a year ago this was going to happen. how did the administration allow this to happen? they were getting warnings. >> right. >> from capitol hill. >> well, it's a great question. we'll spend years doing the kind of post mortem on this. it count have gone any worse. it's not like the white house wasn't focused on it.
for months they were saying, all year, this entire year they have been saying the most important thing the only thing that matters is getting the health care, the aca more broad but the roll out particularly right. they didn't get it right. but part of it is -- i think part of its difficulty is the way it was passed. because of the dysfunctional congress there was no chance and no one worked harder than senator baucus to find some republicans and make this a bipartisan -- susan collins and others trying and trying. the president ran out of patience with the process but trying to make it a bipartisan bill. because every big social, you know, change like this, social security, medicare had always been passed with large bipartisan majority and the reason is both parties are invested in its success. you have the republicans not only invested in the success but invested in failure. >> chuck, let's go beyond the website. let's assume some day people can logon and get health care they
are looking for, some day. what's the next step for the conversation about obama care, the implementation of obama care. does it get messier or start to clear up for the white house if they can get past the technical aspect? >> the next test is how many healthy people under the age of 40 sign up. remember, this entire system doesn't work if the young and healthy, the young invincibles don't do this. the actuary tables don't work for the insurance companies. one of the tradeoffs of passing a allow that says health insurance companies couldn't discriminate for pre-existing conditions was part of the deal they were going get a whole bunch of young and healthy people to defray some of the extra costs of insuring sicker people and not being able to discriminate on that front. so that's the next test. and the reason november 30th is so important is if you look at
how massachusetts worked, that last month before the insurance kicked in, january 1, so we're talking december 1 through december 15. that 15 day period. that has to be a period that's not just sick people signing up for this insurance. it has to be healthy people. >> chuck, let's talk about the day after the election, recriminations. ken cuccinelli obviously upset for good reason. not only republican -- washington republicans and the government shutdown but republicans in giving more money. company have won that race. it was a lot closer than people thought. also, just this back and forth, sort of the -- talk about small ball. people just sniping at chris christie. it's unbecoming. i don't know if i've ever seen anything like that. >> they are not celebrating his landslide. >> right. >> look, i'll say it. now that said, i mean chris
christie, they have decided to be very aggressive about this presidential bid in a way that some might have advised them hey you don't need to do it like this. you don't need to embrace it. they've chosen to embrace it. >> they weren't aggressive about this like the shutdown. that worked well for them. >> let chuck finish. >> i'm talking about christie. he's not shying away from the talk. he's not doing that phoney idea. he is sort of saying yes, okay, i'm flattered by the conversation. he sits up there for 90 minutes. felt like bill clinton, john mccain rolled into one. he enjoys press conferences. he enjoys bantering back and forth with the press. so i think you do have, this is some of these conservatives going oh, my gosh he's going to get a head start, we got start take a pound of flesh out of him now let's not let him suddenly get into the open road and we
never have a shot at him. >> he's trying to be as honest as he can given the fact that everybody is pounding him with these questions. he looks like he could win that point and he's saying i don't know. you know why? he might. you know why? he doesn't know. anything could happen between now and then. that's as honest answer he can give. i'm going to give new jersey. new jersey would be proud if he ran. these guys poking away at him and trying to bring him -- i don't know. is it just me. is it my point of view, carl? >> let's go the facts. probably the next important person in the republican party today is haley barber. haley barber will come out in the next few months for chris christie. he sees chris christie as a winner. maybe you heard it here first. joe, do you think there's much question about that? >> john kasich will. >> so it goes back to what i was
saying about the creation of a responsible modern republican party which they finally have a shot at after the craziness of the last year. they went off the leverage and finally the elders of the party said wait a minute if we're going off the leverage with these folks, with the tea party folks and back to erick cantor let's go back to some real republican roots and we have a chance of it in this country now. the idea of a responsible opposition on both sides would be one of the best things that could happen to this country in the last 40 years. what do you think? >> i think that's all well and good and true. the problem, those is that there's no fix for the congressional wing of the republican party. the republicans have been so successful in the last two censuses in redistricting, gerrymandering seats.
there's pressure on the members from those seats not compromise as opposed to reach across the aisle and be responsible. you'll have a national republican party that's trying to distance itself from a congressional republican party which can't change. >> which is why the system will continue not to work until somehow, you know, maybe there will be some more redistricting but i don't see it happening. >> carl bernstein, thank you so much. always good to have you. dee dee, thank you as well. chuck todd we'll see you coming up on "the daily rundown." he's stale wake. does he ever get off tv. still ahead twitter's ipo hours away but does the social network have a chance to reach the same amount of users as facebook? we'll be right back.
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think of another one besides the vampire movie. that was the only one. >> that's number two. >> this book looks at him among other ways as a foreign leader, as sort of the dawn of american power rising through him. how so? >> well, i mean i think we all think of the civil war as a domestic conflict but there's always a series of tests that lincoln had in foreign policy. the biggest thing was trying to keep the european powers from intervening in the war but there's also a series of crises with france and spain and britain that if he handled badly could have erupted into war. so he had to prevent those from happening as well. >> i'm sorry, go ahead. >> how did he do all that? how did a guy who never left this country, never spoke any languages, had no experience whatsoever in foreign policy, i guess that might remind us of some others, i don't know, how did he do all that? >> one thing he had was a strong
and competent secretary of state, henry seward. henry was more worldly than lincoln was, had traveled abroad quite a bit. that's why there's not a book about lincoln's foreign policy. if you put him at the center of foreign policy, lincoln didn't do everything. the things he did do were important. my goal in this book was to take a very episodic view of things and looked at things that lincoln did do in foreign policy without saying he did everything. >> now is lincoln's greatest challenge, i would guess, his greatest challenge is to stop the powers in europe from intervening on the side of the confederacy? >> exactly it. >> how did he do it? >> well, through a combination of prudence and patience and good judgment, but, you're right. this is the age of the great powers. bismarck took power in 1862, became prime minister in
prussia. then ambassador in britain said he only had national interests. napoleon iii who invaded mexico at the height of the civil war. people forget that. napoleon marched troops in 1863 and conquered mexico city. >> why wasn't it in their best interest to break up the union, to intervene and how did lincoln stop them from pursuing what people would consider in their best interest? >> think what they realized is it wasn't in their best interest. there was a kind of gleefulness about watching the union disintegrate. the british prime minister liked to call the u.s. the dis-united states during this period. there were commercial ties between the united states and britain he realized didn't make sense to rupture and napoleon in france saw britain or saw the
united states, a united united states a counter weight to britain. britain was the historical enemy of france. a strong united united states was in france's interest as well. part of that i think on lincoln's part was real swrizing what the interests of the european powers really were and not messing things up along the way. >> modern presidents always become students of lincoln, and i won't what lessons you think our president, president obama draws on this part of president lincoln's presidency. >> lincoln was a master of patience and timing. and there's a lincoln biographer who compares his decision making to that serenity prayer that they teach in alcoholics anonymous. lincoln was a master at knowing the difference of things company change in international affairs and things he couldn't change. i think that's something to learn from. i think lincoln was naturally
diplomatic. we kind of know that about him. he was a british journalist said european diplomats or professional diplomats tend to kind of shrug their shoulders or tell a white lie to get out of a difficult situation. lincoln would tale story or a joke, crack everybody up and move on. i can't picture president obama telling a story and cracking everybody up and then moving on. his diplomatic style is more of the former. >> the book is "lincoln and the world." thank you so much. very nice to meet you. >> thank you for coming. this is fantastic. you probably know her as the mom from that "70s show." now she has a new role as a famous sex therapist. how the actress is now becoming dr. ruth. next on "morning joe". avo: the volkswagen "sign then drive"
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>> i wouldn't be speculating about somebody who was not doing their job well. from doing my job well, that's good for the people here. i have never seen it as a distraction. i have said before, i don't see it as a burden either. you have to have a huge ego. it's such a burden for you to be speculating about being the leader of the free world. stop. i'm so burdened. that's a huge ego. that's complimentary and flattering and i have no problem with it. >> it's 8:00 on the east coast
and 5:00 on the west coast. what a beautiful day. >> beautiful. >> i'm very cheerful. with us on set. >> you introduce and i ask. >> no, no. no, no, no. no, no. >> you can take all the time you want. i will jump straight to it. >> chris christie is wallowing in this. >> no, he's not. >> you want your guy and did you this. i love that zoom in. it's like a 1972 cam in it. >> chris christie represents all the hopes and dreams. >> answer the question now. >> i love that political talk. >> answer the question if you will. if you r7 managing chris
christie, would you tell him to wallow in this. >> he's not. >> i don't think manages chris christie. >> anyone manages jim nichol. that's what we like about him. >> i want to make sure it's about a rise to prominence and a rise to winning national elections. he should stop. >> you should stop. shut up. >> everyone is saying it for him. >> here's the biggest sign that he's a big problem and you shut up. look at the knives coming out in the republican party that are trying to compliment him in a backhanded way. just wait. how's the beard? >> itchy. starting to get itchy. >> can i feel it? >> later. >> i want to know what that's like. that doesn't look good.
not good first thing in the morning. please don't go close. i'm going to come over there and check it out. you let me do the news and shut up. >> that's the third time you have told me to shut up. >> i'm going to do that one too. >> he's elegant, thank god. the rest of us -- you are elegant. >> we pride ourselves on being a civil television show. >> i don't want to say anything or i will be told to shut up. >> you wouldn't and nicole and willie wouldn't, but -- >> she told me to shut up three times. >> nobody notices when i do it. they like it. >> makes hermine meaner. >> i could have said nice outfit and people would go -- >> we could have a show where i hit you.
we had those before and you get united states bruises and you get in trouble for it. if you would like that to happen, keep going down that road. it didn't take long. hours after a landslide reelection, new jersey governor chris christie faced questions about running for president. what is he supposed to do? the republican remained coy about his plans. he is flattered by the talk and ignoring it. >> and so you would think that would make me better prepared to be president. i have a job to do. i got reelected to do a job. i'm not worried about the other stuff and if the time comes and i decide i want to do something else, i will tell them i want to do something else.
>> strong upon wind combined with the loss has many questioning whether it's time, but republicans who could challenge the primary apparently did not get the memo. >> what do you mean? >> after christie's win, marco rubio said i think we need to understand that some of these races don't apply to future races. every race is different. it has a difference of factors. >> that's not congratulations. if you win by like 800 points in a state that barack obama won by 8 hundred points, you take a look at that. >> absolutely. and you congratulate him and say he's a contender. >> you said that chris christie wasn't wallowing in it. marco rubio, you say be gracious. right? >> at least be as gracious as
the democrats. i don't know when as a party we are going to wake up and realize that as long as the targets of our ire remain each other, we will be. >> if you think he's a contender, at least support him. it shows you are really threatened. there is more? the ones that are ruining the republican party. he is brash and outspoken. >> this is graceful. >> but, but i think we need more leaders in washington with the courage to stand for principal and obama care is not working. huh? wait. what happened? >> he doesn't stand on principal and had a death match. >> he's great, but i'm threatened and i now feel like he is overshadowed.
>> that's a man thing. >> it's pitiful. >> how can they say that chris christie doesn't stand on principal. i forget which one it was, but somebody on radio said if chris christie wants to prove he is conservative, he has to call barack obama a liar. >> i know who that was. >> i don't. i don't want to know. that is our standard. it doesn't have to do with ideology. >> i heard that and thought why are we putting ourselves in our own party through litmus tests setting ourselves and each other up for failure. >> i don't think they are doing that. >> why does ronald reagan call jimmy carter a liar? never. by the way, you are exactly right. we should at least as republicans be as gracious to each other as democrats are.
>> if i'm about to fire somebody i will give them a raise. when they get a raise, they scatter. but no, you embrace people that might be going again. you can't look small. >> speaking of that, rand paul at a senate hearing launched an attack on super storm sandy recovering efforts. look at this. the first two were good. this is a zinger. criticizing governor christie who just won historic reelection in new jersey for appearing in ads entitled stronger than the storm to help tourism. people for running put their mug in the middle of a political campaign. $25 million was spent on ads with people running for political office. you think there might be a
conflict of interest there. that's a problem. people trying to do good and use taxpayer money wisely, they are offended. that's offensive. >> did he do that? i think he did. >> that was a hearing? are. >> yes. >> who was he questioning? >> the secretary of -- >> they are all scared of him. >> scared is not the word here. >> they are all scared of him. >> that's not how -- >> there could be more. >> you want to be gracious. >> they need to be specific about why he doesn't stand on principal. >> how about holding off a couple of days. a huge win, congratulations are in order. >> president obama called. >> he got crab for that because the buddies were on the phone. >> here's the thing. >> we have gone down the list.
he is low tax and took on the teacher's union. if you are conservative, these are things that he is against. gay marriage and abortion. the things they point to is he is so so on climate change and believes it's real and at least partially man-made and not tough enough on guns. if you are looking for a candidate who is a 100% pure, you will be looking for a long time. >> returning to obama care in the gubernatorial race, they are worried about their future. >> they should be. >> for different reasons entirely. >> the president met with a group of 16 senators who are frustrated with the roll out of obama care. it's its troubled launch may come back to haunt them. democrats believe ken cuccinelli was able to narrow the gap in virginia after focusing on obama care in the final weeks. exit polling showed 53% of
virginia voters were opposed to the health care law and of those, 81% voted for cuccinelli and yesterday the president flew to texas where he was critical of the lawmakers for not opting in. >> one of the things that gets me frustrated although i understand it because i'm in politics, folks who are complaining about how the website is not working and why isn't obama fixing this and all of these people are uninsure and they leave a million people without health insurance that they could fix. there is not a lot of logic. >> okay. that was inspiring. what next? what? >> i think he is working on fixing the problem. >> was that like the berlin
speech where you swept your feet rhetorically? >> he has a really hard job and he was set up terribly and the roll out was terrible. i think they have people -- if they can do this and get people signed up, all this chatter will be forgotten. >> so steve ratner, i talked to two people from pensacola yesterday. one has two children with preexisting conditions. they can't get health insurance and they went online and signed up and got a great plan through blue cross of florida in about 30 minutes and said it's the greatest thing ever and the two kids with preexisting conditions. >> did you just say that? >> i heard from somebody else who got on and couldn't get past
the second or third screen. one said this is the greatest thing ever and the other was a democrat who couldn't get on. the point is obviously if you start having a lot more americans with the first story and being able to tell that story around communities, then it will do more than any 30-second ads. if they fail like they did in the second and since it doesn't matter what barack obama says or does, it fails. >> let's separate a couple of issues. the website is what it is. disaster. everybody agrees. that will get fixed. that's the technological problem. we are not trying to put a man on mars, but we are trying to get a website to work. how many people are going to sign up? you need to have younger and
healthier people in the pools. you can get insurance at a reasonable rate. it worked in massachusetts and it's not going to look good in the early months here. not great sign up rates and how is it going to unfold? i think the president unfortunately got himself a box that nobody was going to lose health insurance no matter what and the other is not everybody will be better off. some people will pay more. that's the nature of insurance. the journal today is an editorial about a woman who can't get health insurance and who is very, very sick. you will see those stories. it will be a dogfight. the website i think will be a memory by then. the question then is are people signed up and more people feel good than those who don't. >> we have another big story. twitter will begin trading on the new york stock exchange. they listed the initial public
offering at $26 a share. it's the largest technology ipo since facebook debuted last year. >> should willie and i buy this stock? >> he asked me that before. i didn't want to answer off camera. >> i pretended like i did hear. your turn to ask. >> should i buy twitter stock? let's talk about the price. $26 a share, higher than people expected? >> sure because they go through a marketing process and there was a lot of demand for this. they kept raising the price up to $27. it's interesting to cam pair to two other ipos. facebook and goggle. let's start by looking at how long the companies have been in business. this gives you a base line. google had been in business six years when it went public.
facebook 8 and twitter 7. roughly the same age as the other two. google had $3 billion and facebook had $5 billion and twitter had $640 million when it went public. it's a much smaller company. google was making moan. facebook was making a tiny bit of money and twitter is losing money. that gives you a little bit of background. what timelines look like. >> facebook does that too. >> they don't do it well. >> $6 billion or $7 billion of ad revenue. >> that's not bad. they have gotten better. >> who is that? >> facebook.
>> they got better? >> they were doing poorly. >> should i stop with shut up? >> the stock is up. we called it. >> all right, so when you translate that into whether or not to buy the stock, one thing you should look at is where is this going come as a multiple. it was a 7.2 times revenues. facebook was at 20 times revenues and twitter is at 28 times. this is coming at a much higher multiple than the other two. you can factor in that decision. i want to give you a last word of caution before you put all of the guys in. they don't always go up. here is what happened to five recent ipos. companies you all know. six months after the ipo, google doubled. up 60%. facebook down 40%. zynga down. >> facebook has since recovered
and up about 30%. google and linked in is great, but zynga and groupon is still down there. you place your bets and see what happened. >> on wall street, what are the downfalls to investing in twitter and the upside? >> the downfall is that the stock is very, very expensive and it really is predicated on twitter continuing to grow at a really, really fast rate. if they slip a step as facebook like looked like they were going, the stock could collapse. the upside is a very fast growing and google today if you bought it at the ipo, it's up about 12 times since the ipo. >> we will check in with politico's mike allen. they go to the mystery barge in san francisco bay. what is going in there?
>> it's a trash barge. >> really? >> a driver goes berserk after a fender bender turns into a free-for-all. they tracked down the stolen car. can i say speaking of berserk or is he going to say something perverted? here's bill with a check on the forecast. >> i like how you blame me. i have my mind in the gutter when it's you guys that drag me there. good morning. rain is moving through the northeast and with it, airport delays. it's not horrible, but we are at one hour in newark and one hour at la guardia. that's the low clouds. the green is the rain and that is tracking across philadelphia and up the east coast. everyone needs that umbrella. when is it going to exit? d.c. is ending philadelphia about 2:00. steadier rains exiting about
6:00 or 7:00 and it will be gone and getting cooler through the days ahead. temperatures are warm now, but cold front goes through and it gets chillier. there is a storm in the northwest too. drive carefully from portland to seattle. you can see the temperatures are not bad. texas to arizona. washington, d.c. with showers and not all that bad. next week it's going to get cold. there is a rumor of a snow flake or two. can you believe that? you are watching "morning joe." my customers can shop around-- see who does good work and compare costs. it doesn't usually work that way with health care. but with unitedhealthcare, i get information on quality rated doctors, treatment options and estimates for how much i'll pay.
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completely voluntary. that has to be a real problem for at&t. >> yes. chicago tribune blockbuster will close their remaining 300 stores. >> really? we have to sell blockbuster stock. i am talking to steve about that. >> you can take that into the ground. >> i'm keeping all my beta tapes too. >> the beta max is coming back. >> they weren't able to find a way to get into the future and they will have to lay off 3,000 employees and end the blockbuster by mail service. they plan to focus on demand and streaming services moving forward. >> after weeks of speculation, google has broken the silence about the mystery floating barge in san francisco. they are exploring using the site as a place where people can learn about new innovations and technology. the mystery barge was spotted in
portland, maine and could rival apple stores in showcasing google products. >> interesting. a video captures a stand off between a motorist and a cabdriver that plays like a real life version of grand theft auto. the driver is involved in a fender bender with a taxi. he gets out of the car and decides to try to escape. that leads to a collision with another taxi and another in a double collision into the original cab. >> this guy is not good. that's five collisions. police say it was a stolen car and the driver is in custody. >> goodness gracious. i don't think he played grand theft auto. senator ted kennedy who shared the same name as the newly elected mayor got a call. what happened? >> say you are sitting in your living room. >> it's biden. >> sitting with your wife on
tuesday night. the phone rings and guess who it is. the vice president congratulating you on becoming the next mayor. he said you son of a gun, marty. you did it. problem, different matter w. different marty walsh. >> debbie wassermann did the same thing. >> she a former aide to the late senator ted kennedy. he is in political circles, but not the guy who became mayor. >> he gets it. >> they can't run websites and place them. >> come on. >> i kid because i love. >> that's the bidenest thing. >> you son of a gun. >> you know what, willie, there
is only one mike allen. >> there is. we like you better up here, but we will take you either way. let's talk about new york city mayor bloomberg. he said the victory in virginia is a big loss for the nra. how do you describe that? >> people in virginia had been saying is it a mistake for michael bloomberg and his mayor's group to spend money in virginia talking about the guns issue? in fact signs are that it helped terry mcauliffe. virginia is the headquarters of the national rifle association. ken cuccinelli had an a rating from the nra and they did not get terry mcauliffe. this shows in the back yard and the state that is hunter-friendly and gun friendly and someone can win. also yesterday we learned what mayor bloomberg's day job is going to be after he leaves the
mayor's office at the beginning of january. our colleagues at capital new york part of a politico empire reported that the mayor will work at bloomberg and view the opinion part. he will be writing high profile pieces of his own and his new title after being mayor may be chairman of bloomberg view. >> steve, you have known mike for a long time. he is going to focus on charitable stuff and foundation. what does his future look like? >> it's more than writing a few oped pieces. that may be a piece of the puzzle and there is a lot more to come. >> i wanted to show the pictures of the new york post. they had a meeting and you can see how they hit it off. >> make sure you notice the clock. >> can we zoom in? >> up here. there we go. >> look how much they love each
other. >> but also notice there is a clock. >> there is a clock. >> it's not warm and fuzzy. more like a cold prickly. the political play. up next, four friends who accidentally changed the world. nick built on has the true story of twitter. how they created a multibillion business. brian sullivan joins the table as well. back in a moment. i started part-time, now i'm a manager.n. my employer matches my charitable giving. really. i get bonuses even working part-time. where i work, over 400 people are promoted every day. healthcare starting under $40 a month. i got education benefits.
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>> it's a big day at 35 past the hour. can you believe brian sullivan is here on the set with me? >> a shocking demand. >> he is blessing me with his presence. i didn't know what to wear. >> the sarcasm is killing me. let's talk about right now. a big day for twitter. a social network site goes public. to talk about that, we have brian sullivan. he blesses us with his presence. columnist for the "new york times," he is out with the new book hatching twitter. a true story of money, power,
friend friendship, money, and betrayal. what are your thoughts today on twitter exploding? can you believe they got from there to here? >> no way. this is a story of friendship and betrayal. the title says it. these were four founders from low-income families and one of the founders came from clarks, nebraska. 262 people. he grew up on welfare essentially. these guys went to silicon valley in search of the modern day gold rush, the tech dream. they accidentally built this company. >> how did they find each other? >> it was all an accident. noah is a big part of the story and got pushed out and made nothing while the others became billionaires. he lived in an apartment.
>> why did they push him out? >> this is the story and why i am surprised by the fact that we are going public with the company. they all puched each other out. noah glass disappeared and jack dorsey got pushed out and even as i report in the book, dick was fired for a brief moment in time. >> tumultuous personalities? >> not this. >> he say lovely guy. >> this is laid back. >> dick is actually a very, very competent ceo and made it into the company it is today. the thing i think is fascinating, this is not something that happened to twitter. twitter is emblematic of this. this is what we call the creation myth in the valley. >> it's cutthroat. i love your story about jack
dorsey. we have this idea that the technology world is sunshine, lollipops and rainbows. out in the valley, everybody is hugging. >> smoking weed. >> they may be, but they are just as aggressive and cutthroat as anybody in a bank. >> look at facebook. look at the stories of the people that got pushed out there. it was a successful hollywood movie what happened on facebook. >> that's one of the interesting parts about what i found interesting. you look at mark zuckerberg and he escape and built facebook. these guys are very flawed human beings. one of the things that is fascinating is they were all kind of loanly and they had a connection to technology and wanted to use that connection and iter to them apart.
>> as superficial as possible. >> yeah. >> whose big idea was it? >> that's the story. jack said this was his idea, but the book told the story as if it was multiple people's idea. about 12 people in the room and the moment it was hatched was jack dorsey who came with the idea to share your status. they were in a car one night drunk in february of 2005 and they were talking about this thing and noah was going through a difficult time and he was getting divorce and his friends were having issues. he said if you built this thing you could feel less alone. >> 140 characters. who had the idea to limit it? >> that was jack. first it was unlimit and then 140 and then 160. >> on text messages you only have 140 characters. it's one of the things, one of
the problems that twitter will have. it's still doifl explain that idea. >> facebook, i'm sorry. it's such a -- i can't use the expression that i usually use regarding pigs. i hate facebook because it's sprawling and people come into your and you don't know what to do with it. people are on there to give you their grocery list. if i want to follow european football or music or mccartney and politics. you active on twitter? >> yeah. >> he's got a new book coming out. >> joe has one. >> 80% of the people who are not on twitter and some people say that's huge growth potential, but it tooks in a language on twit they're not everyone understands. some people don't want to access
it because it's intimidating. it's pictures and you say what you want. the hash tag language and all this other stuff for people is like mars. >> you look at how people communicate today and how they are going to communicate years from now, it's not how we communicate on facebook. it's twitter. >> at least facebook is the advertisers and that's part of the big model and it will be the same as macy's. when this thing goes public, it will be worth the same as macy's that has billions in sales and earnings. it's a big company. i loved this in a way. desperate to connect. it ripped a friendship apart. >> that's the thing i found fascinating. it speaks to the entire generation. people are thumbing at their devices. they are separating themselves from the people in front of them. the thing i found fascinating is the people that built twitter and this is what the story was about.
>> in your opinion, does it have a long-term, viable -- the reason i gave those stats is it will be valley said as a top fortune 500 company. do you believe it has a long-term future financially? >> absolutely. i think one of the biggest challenges, financially it's easy, but one of the biggest is user growth. it's difficult for people to understand the hash tags and things like that. >> i will show a picture of these guys. who was the spiritual leader? other than me. i'm shy and i don't like to talk about this. >> the photo in the corner, that is actually jack doersa and noah glass who had that moment in the car. this is a great story in the
book about the night that twitter hatch and they opened up for business. they debuted at a rave. jack ended up in the hospital and it's a really, really great story. they are essentially the beginning of it. >> the book is, hatching twitter. nick, thank you so much. brian sullivan, thank you so much. >> stick around. >> hit me up on twitter sometime. >> that's quite already. our new pick for the book club. we'll be right back.
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>> time to reveal the next election in the "morning joe" book club. it reflects the ongoing commitment to the veterans. an amazing book. thank you for your service by david finkle. he won a claim for reporting from the frontlines of baghdad in his best selling book, the good soldiers. now the author revisits the troops. this time as they struggle to adjust to back at home. it's an amazing portrait of after war and the challenges faced by veterans and their families. this is right in our house, isn't it? >> to your credit, you and willie have been talking about the plight of veteran who is return home from the wars with sometimes horrible injuries with
families that are in need of a lot of tlc. they are just as devastating. to me the most powerful books haunt you days and weeks after you turned the last page. when you heard you were considering this, i got to read it and have been haunted by it every day since. >> it's your chance to join in. thank you for your service by david finkle. go to mojo.msnbc to get involved in the conversation. we will have the author on. keep it here on "morning joe."
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>> meanwhile in new jersey, chris christie cruised to a win over the random democrat. nobody knows. he celebrated by weirding everybody out. >> tonight first and foremost i want to say thank you, new jersey for making me the luckiest guy in the world. >> did new jersey marry chris christie last night? why are you looking directly
into our souls during the speech? it's okay, chris. you had us at hello. >> we have an update on a report earlier that we were talking about. three republicans responding to chris christie's win and we characterized it all as sour grapes. marco rubio was quoted in the group of three as saying i think we need to understand that some of these races don't apply to future races. every race is different. it has a different set of factors. senator rubio's team contacted us and wanted us to include the rest of the statement. the florida republican went on to say this. clearly christie was able to speaks to the hopes and aspirations of people within new jersey. that's important. we want to win everywhere and governor christie has shown has has a way to win in a state like new jersey so we congratulate him on that. >> i want to laugh. let me stop.
>> nicole? >> it's worse. >> i love him, but they made fun of me. i just think the rest of the quote, doubling down. marco only sees him as being a value to helping republicans win in the state of new jersey. >> he said new jersey twice? >> three times. >> with we live there. >> chris christie would not support that. >> here's what's so interesting. senator rubio's office wanted to make clear to us that he really was i guess pleased for christie.
>> thank you so much for that clarification. >> this sends a signal that even though who are reluctant to apply his secret sauce to the rest of the country, they are not sure. they understand that maybe chris cri christie is more powerful. >> that is good and wouldn't you have your person say congratulations to governor christie? it is a great win and a great win for a great party and let's move forward and do that in all 50 states. >> that. yeah. >> what if anything did we learn?
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i didn't mean for that to happen. >> i miss him. >> kind of uncomfortable. >> dr. ruth uncomfortably or generally? >> generally. >> i like those socks. >> it was all good. i'm from florida. what do you exec me to do. chuck todd is up next with "the daily rundown." thank you for your patience as always. >> that didn't take long. chris christie uses the first full day after reelection to talk to the press in a media event that felt like it had to do with a lot more than new jersey. how fast is the governor hitting the road to 2016? meantime in washington preventive medicine or presifting condition. republican senators with potential primary problems and a hearing with secretary sebelius to make sure their base is