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tv   Martin Bashir  MSNBC  November 21, 2013 1:00pm-2:01pm PST

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>> that would eliminate the 60-vote threshold for all executive appointments with the exception of the supreme court. >> and may forever change the way business is done in congress. >> yes, no. >> public service is not a game. this isn't obstruction on substance. >> can anyone say the senate is working? >> change the subject. >> that's -- the next nominee has to be a governor. do you agree? >> no. everybody wants to do a story about 26. >> we'll give the president a little advice. >> we'll make 2014 about obama care. >> you don't have to like the laws of the land but you do have to respect those laws. >> republicans have been very, very fair to this president. >> a deliberate effort to refight the election is not normal. >> a good thursday afternoon to you. we begin with republican obstruction finally pushing
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democrats to go nuclear. changing the rules of the senate to clear the way for several of the president's nominees. the landmark vote detonated just after noon striking down nearly 225 years of precedent ending long standing filibuster rules and breaking republicans' hold on presidential picks for the cabinet and judiciary. a short time ago the president supported the move saying the meaning of advise and consent has been lost on his opponents. >> it is no longer used in a responsible way to govern. it is used as a reckless and relentless tool to grind all business to a halt. the american people deserve better than politicians who run for election telling them how terrible government is and devoting their time in elected office to make government not work as often as possible. >> the move comes as republicans have built up a filibuster
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fortress most recently blocking three of the president's nominees to the d.c. circuit court of appeals. not because they're not qualified but because he nominated them. it is part of an explosion in obstructive tactics never before seen in the history of the nation. >> some 230 plus years there have been 168 fill busters of executive and judicial nominations. half occurred during the obama administration. mr. president, 230 plus years, 50%. >> just on the d.c. circuit court senator reid pointed out republicans have blocked 4 of 5 obama nominees while democrats affirmed 4 of 6 bush nominees but if you ask senate minority leader mitch mcconnell it's all part of a made up, democratic shaggy dog story. >> break the rules of the senate in order to change the rules of
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the senate. and over what? they cook up some fake fight over judges. i'd be talking about something else too if i had to defend dogs getting insurance while millions of americans lost theirs. >> yes. aside from claiming today that republicans have been extremely fair to the current president, senator mcconnell also claimed that a dog was able to successfully enroll in the affordable care act so i guess the website is getting easier to use and make no mistake house speaker john boehner did get the memo on republicans' nuclear talking points. >> sounz like harry reid is trying to change the subject. if i were taking all the incoming fire he is taking over obama care i would try to change the subject too. >> that incoming fire of course continued to be volleyed nonstop from republican quarters not only senator reid and the president but at every democratic member of congress up for re-election next year
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courtesy of one rnc chair reince priebus. >> we'll make 2014 about obama air can yes we will tatoo obama care on each of their foreheads. that will be what 2014 is all about. >> it is actually the patient protection and affordable care act so please make sure you use a small enough font. let's get to our panel. hasn't the republican opposition to these judicial appointments been the final giveaway? that this was never about the substance of the person, never about the substance of a personality, it was just opposition for opposition's sake? >> oh, sure. look. the republicans have been fair here like ted cruz is a model of self-restraint in revenue. all they've done at every step of the way is to try to block
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obama nominees just for the sake of blocking them, people rated highly qualified by the american bar association. they made up this theory that somehow or other the federal circuit court in washington doesn't have a heavy work load when in fact it has one of the heaviest and most complicated work loads because all of the cases come to it from federal agencies. >> right. >> i think democrats were right to do this and i worried over the last few months that you had too many democrats saying if we do this what if the republicans some day control the presidency and the senate, they'll do it, too. you know what? the republicans don't care about consistency. now that this idea has been introduced and i mean even before the democrats passed it, i have no doubt that if they have the senate and the presidency mitch mcconnell would stand up there and say the essence of fairness is the nuclear option and would apply it to supreme court nominees as well. >> no surprise he was not particularly thrilled about the vote today.
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here was his reaction. let's have a listen. >> this was nothing more than a power grab in order to try to advantages the obama administration's regulatory agenda. the solution to this problem is at the ballot box. we look forward to a great election in november, 2014. >> does he really think voters support the obstructions and dysfunction of government? >> you heard his colleague in the house say that they should be judged on how many laws they were to repeal and what they actually do. mitch mcconnell did give away some of the game today. he did say, ah ha this is about regulation and policy as if it is absurd for the president of the united states to get elected and have the nerve to try to implement the policies he prefers. how dare he? just to point out the absurdity of the republican position they have called it court packing for the president to want to fill the remaining three seats on the d.c. circuit. it is supposed to have 11 judges
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and has eight now. so to add the other three is called court packing. what we're really seeing is republicans are concerned because under duress they did approve one more judge for the d.c. circuit. that gives you four democratic appointees and four republican. it is now even steven. what they are really concerned about is if president obama gets even one more person on the court and he is not a right wing idealogue all of a sudden they actually might get their policies through. >> what about this notion that joy mentions which is the nullification of the 2012 election? every day? >> well, that's the entire republican strategy. front page of the "new york times" this morning. they're planning a wave of campaigning and disruption and sabotage of the affordable care act. you have people like the koch brothers doing everything they can to not get young people to sign up, which for me is a real
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moral difficulty. some of these young people, most of them will stay healthy. you persuade one not to sign up, they get very sick and don't have coverage. i wonder if the koch brothers will pay for their health insurance. whether it is judicial nominees, mell watt being nominated to run an administrative agency, they just don't care. they want to stop obama. they believe he is illegitimate or the tea party party at least do. did you watch mcconnell? he was sweating like nixon in the first debate. he was angry but also upset because they over played their hand. the truth is had they confirmed several of these appointees to the federal circuit court they would have gotten away with blocking a lot of people through filibuster because you wouldn't have gotten 52 democrats to do this. >> we talked about the theory but the reality is this is actually affecting people's lives, how americans live every day. i'd like you to take a listen to
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what the president said about that. >> repeated abuse of these tactics have blocked legislation that might create jobs. they defeated actions that would help women fighting for equal pay and have been used to even block common sense and widely supported steps to protect more americans from gun violence. >> he is right isn't he? it doesn't matter whether it is jobs, gender equality in the wosh place, immigration or gun safety all of the outcomes of which can be profoundly detrimental to people's lives but their position is they don't want to move on any of this. >> absolutely. this is a case of republicans losing votes either in popular vote losing elections or losing votes in the congress and then trying to nullify those losses. on issues of gun control they just say we won't let anyone implement these laws. in the case of the consumer protection bureau they didn't like the idea that credit card companies are limited on the interest they can charge or
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there is a consumer bill of rights protecting you from fraudulent mortgage practices or predatory lending. they don't like the law that was passed. they lost the vote and now they're saying we just won't allow anyone to implement laws we don't like. that is not the way democracy is supposed to function. in answer to your previous question say there was a republican president and senate that legitimately won without the help of the supreme court and they -- >> thank you joy. >> you have a president who is a republican and senate led by the republicans they, too, have the right to have their people in place. a president duly elected has the right to have his own people in agencies. >> the president for the last five years has tried his best to be magnanimous in his engagement. the reality is as he said earlier today it's take ebb five years and it has been horrendous. now the accusation will be that the action in the senate today is the very essence of the kind of partisan behavior that they claim to be fighting against. how do you respond to that?
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has harry reid done just as badly as mitch mcconnell has done? >> no. mitch mcconnell caused this and the republicans caused this. the majority people held mitch mcconnell's feet to the fire, a tea party challenge in kentucky. i suspect he wouldn't have acted quite like this under other circumstances. they have caused this. look, the president reached across the aisle time and time again. his hand was spurned time and time again. at a certain point you have to stand up and fight for what you believe in. joy is absolutely right. this isn't even about legislation but the fact that they want to dismember the federal government by not approving these people who are going to run these agencies. of course they already got one come up ans. they blocked elizabeth warren who ran against scott brown and she is in the senate. >> absolutely right. thank you for joining us. coming up we'll ask one member of congress whether there is some way any way to carve a path through washington's traffic. stay with us. ♪
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on the day the dow closed at a new record just above 16,000 the president weighed in on the senate's vote today to limit the use of the filibuster. he did not shy away from the fact that democrats, too, have used obstructive tactics when in the minority. >> i realize that neither party has been blame leless for these tactics. they developed over years and it seems as if they've continually escalated. but today's pattern of obstruction just isn't normal.
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it is not what our founders envisioned. >> joining us is gregory meeks, democratic congressman of new york. thank you for joining us. we understand that the laws and rules and regulations that apply to fill busters in the senate do not apply in the house. what did you think of the president calling out the kind of obstructionism that he's basically been the victim of for five years? >> he's had enough. i think it is clear from his tone he's been conciliatory, he has reached out, tried to do everything that he could to make sure that things worked in a bipartisan way. and at every step of the way, they have obstructed. he's had enough and it is time and i'm proud of him to say we're going to move this country forward. we've got a system, mr. mcconnell from the day he was
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inaugurated, the day president obama was inaugurated said we'll stop this president and utilize obstructionist tactics to make sure he is not successful. the president despite that tried to be conciliatory. >> many people hearing you would say that you ran for office yourself in order to make a genuine constructive contribution to the well being of the nation and its citizens. what does it feel like to be in a house where you cannot do anything? >> that is the problem. it is frustrating. i was talking to a colleague just yesterday, leaving a committee meeting where they were trying to dismember the consumer financial protection board. we were talking to ourselves saying, what the heck is going on here? we're not doing anything, we spent all day yesterday in committee, part of this morning, for what? for nothing. all they were trying to do was dismember a bureau put in place to help consumers. they've not done anything of a constructive nach in your the last five and a half years other than trying to stop what has been passed and is the law of
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the land. >> of course, that really does relate to the lives of citizens who were ripped off and fraudulently sold nonsense call mortgages and ended up losing their houses. >> what we pride ourselves in america is consumer goods. we make sure we have inspections for food, making sure the consumers, one of the things we've done better than most nations is to protect our consumers. what we found out a few years ago, that was not taking place in the financial services area and so therefore we now have the consumer protection rights and the bureau so we can make sure we protect consumers. this is a good thing to do but yet they don't like the law so they're trying to dismantle it. >> consumer protection applies to everyone. let's talk about immigration for a moment. i'd like you to listen to something that speaker john boehner said today about whether comprehensive immigration reform is dead. i'd like your reaction. take a listen.
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>> let me answer the first question. is immigration reform dead? absolutely not. >> that's news to me. >> listen, i don't see where they're doing anything to move forward with a comprehensive immigration law. >> what is he talking about? >> i mean has he appointed any individuals to pass a bill so we can do immigration, have a conference with the senate? no. it's all lies. they haven't done their business. what are you doing, mr. speaker? when are you going to move forward with a bill? >> he said he is not stopping comprehensive immigration reform. >> he absolutely is. who else? he is the speaker. he won't allow it on the floor. he told his chairman not to go forward with it. he speaks with forked tongue. >> he does sadly. you and several house colleagues are headed overseas. in fact you're going to brussels and then on to berlin. you're probably going to be asked some difficult questions about spying because we've heard
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angela merkel has been spied upon. the french and indeed the british prime minister and parliament discussed this issue as well. what do you plan to say to assauge their little bit of anger about what is going on? >> look, world is much smaller than it used to be and i'm sure the spying is done by everyone. but the strength that binds us is stronger than this incident we're talking about. we need to look at some of the protocols and rules and talk with our allies and work things out. we have to make sure we stay together. when we fight terrorism we do that together. when we trade or create jobs for both americans and our allies over in europe, that's important. so there are so many things we have to do collectively and we shouldn't allow something, you know, because of new technology, and the president is on top of it and reviewing it but we have to make sure we're pushing moving forward. >> a great irony.
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you'll probably be more effective when you are outside of this country than you've been able to be in the house of representatives itself. sad. congressman gregory meeks, thank you, sir. still ahead the day's top lines but first a word on the politics of pizza with the help of one john stewart. >> some people thought that my contribution to the pizza dialogue was not particularly well reasoned. whenever there is a spirited back and forth you just know chicago mayor rahm emmanuel is going to get involved. >> this is the gift mayor emmanuel sent to john stewart on the daily show. >> the daily show posted this vine video showing even a dog rejecting the deep dish pizza from the mayor.
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that was the sound of the closing bell today on wall street at the top of the hour where for the first time in history, the dow-jones closed over 16,000 points amid a decline in the number of americans filing for jobless benefits. still ahead, the day's top lines and we'll head to the republican governor's ball where the juggling for 2016 is well and truly under way and members of congress need not apply. >> i think there are no saints in washington right now. republicans and democrats have royally screwed this up. and, you know, for us to go and pander to republicans just because they're republicans goes against what governors do.
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if he had a fan club i'd be the president. >> i'm pretty sure that's not love. >> the message is about the heart rather than the head. >> i hadn't realized jonathan franzen was the governor of texas. >> mental illness, drug addiction. >> i believe in faith. >> if you think american style politics is -- >> and the republican congress that is just about what, no, no, no? >> no, no, no, no. >> the most unpopular of the unpopular are republicans in congress. >> i know this. >> where has the republican party just gone bad, gone wrong? >> there is a tendency to rely, you know this, on negative and anger. many voters are absolutely frustrated with everybody in d.c. >> while d.c. talks, governors act. >> somebody asked me the difference between a congressman and governor. no difference than day and night. >> governors make great ceos. they just do. >> they have to negotiate and compromise. >> it is what these folks are doing every day in their states
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that will help recon figure the image of our party. >> let's get right to our panel. joining us now is jackie kucinich of "the washington post" and sam seeda host of "the majority report." sam, the republican governors are wrapping up their two-day strategy session out in arizona expressing lots and lots of love for themselves. but where does this leave poor paul ryan? because, you know, a man who was the vice presidential pick now dismissed because he wasn't a governor. >> yeah. i mean, i think it shows just how much this sort of national republican brand is incredibly toxic for these governors. you know, they're worried about their own re-elections. i think 22 of the 36 up for re-election in this round are going to be republicans. they're concerned that they're going to be tainted by the republican brand and i think it is a legitimate concern. >> right. jackie, here is paul ryan speaking to "the wall street journa journal". take a listen. >> there is a lot of discussion among republicans. you hear it all the time. that the next republican nominee
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for president in 2016 has to be a governor. has to be somebody like a chris christie or scott walker or john kasig. do you agree? >> no. next question? >> there you go. are republicans looking for someone new in 2016? >> you know, no. that's not what the republican party usually does. they usually have a lead inner waiting. i think you'll see one of the people we're talking about that will be on the ticket. >> okay. sam, chris christie was elected head of the governors association today. his feud with a top governor does not seem to be easy. take a look at this. >> if by some chance you and the governor of new jersey happen to be in i don't know iowa at the same time within the next 12 to 18 months do you think i could
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convince you to come into the studio so we could have a chat. >> absolutely. i've been trying to get him to go out for a beer with me anyway. maybe you can get that organized. >> i'd love to. i'd even take away my recording devices. >> or a state fair we could go for a fried twinkie. >> there you go. >> okay. fried twinkie summit. but there is also a suggestion there is there not on the part of mr. paul that there is a little jealousy creeping in about the good and positive attention that republican governors are getting. >> well, yeah. i think this is also geared toward christie and i think you hear paul sort of talking about how christie, the underlying principle is christie is not going to sell in the midwest and is not a true conservative. you were talking earlier about the end of the filibuster. this is going to be making things much more difficult for republicans who want to portray they're modern. suddenly we have unshackled the rhetoric of the republicans in the senate. they can talk about dictatorship all day long. they don't have to do anything
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about it because they can't. so this is going to put more pressure on those who want to pretend they're more moderate. >> what do you think of a twinkie summit between those two? >> i think i'd want to be a fly on the wall. you know, if rand paul and chris christie both end up running for president, those debates are going to be amazing. >> sorry. say that again? someone else was speaking to me when you said that. >> i said those debates are going to be amazing the two of them on stage together. there's already a little bit of dislike that's been brewing and by the time they're next to each other you can just imagine it is going to be pretty interesting to watch. >> yeah. indeed. i guess the problem, sam, is that the republican nominee for the last election i believe had to -- not the case? it is. the idea, of course the governors are going to say this. but again, i really think this is about just how much the republicans in washington have poisoned the well. and so these guys are running as
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hard as they can away from republican -- the national republican brand. >> how do you do that when we end up discussing for example an issue like abortion. they won't be able to run away from that or talk about discrimination for people in the lgbt community. >> that is exactly why they won't become president but they're going to try and they're also looking to win re-election. so when they're talking in their states and not running against a national republican, they don't have to appeal to republican primary voters across the country, they have to make it sound like they're technocrats rather than posting incredibly regressive policies in their home states. >> look at virginia. i mean, it helped him lose that race. republican governors have every incentive to distance themselves from washington republicans. it shouldn't be that surprising. a lot of these guys do have a re-election coming up. >> i thought though the
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narrative being spread by ken cucinelli was he did quite well given the circumstances. >> but they had planned to focus on obama care and how the roll out wasn't going well and they couldn't because the shutdown took all the oxygen out of the room. >> okay. sam, thinking about this divide would there really be any big difference in your view between say electing ted cruz as opposed to chris christie as president? >> ultimately? >> in content terms. policy terms. >> no. i think to a certain extent ted cruz obviously has a strain of fundamentalism and i think some measure of social conservativism but if you look at chris christie's record, all it shows is he is less fundamentalist in his social values, that much more craven in trying to appeal to that party. he has been running for
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president in the past year and a half, two years. you look at a guy who wouldn't allow for marriage equality in new jersey of all places. this is a guy who is basically trying to send a signal if you folks don't want me to move this country forward i'm willing to drag my feet when it comes to that. >> thank you both so much. coming up it is all he can stand and he cannot take anymore. harry reid rolls the dice on the senate floor. stay with us. a can of del monte green beans? ♪
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advise and consent, if it is to mean anything at allocationly consent is not given. >> that is the senate minority leader today criticizing harry reid and defending senators' right to not allow a final vote on a president's judicial nominees. what about when he and his party
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were in the majority? as you might expect that was slightly different. on may 22nd, 2005 the then majority whip said, quote, let's get back to the way the senate operated for over 200 years, up or down votes on the president's nominee, no matter who the president is, no matter who's in control of the senate. joining us now is our resident nuclear expert jimmy williams a democratic strategist and msnbc contributor. jimmy, these battles about changing the rules of debate go back by our research to at least 1890 and the sides tend to flip only when the majority does. usually they end only in compromise. today is not one of those days. tell us why. >> hypocrisy raines king today unfortunately in the united states senate. let me precursor by saying i really hate that the democrats had to do this. the gop has gone way too far.
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104 fill busters and two congresses ago. 137 the congress before that. 139 the congress before that. 57 so far this congress. >> since 1967, 50%. >> yes. that's right. >> of those nominees have been filibustered during terms of the current president. >> that is exactly right. think about it from this perspective. this will put everything into perspective for our viewing audience. lbj was senate majority leader for six years. one filibuster. now i can't comprehend that. i worked in that building almost seven years. >> yeah. >> by the way, i worked there when we democrats were in the majority and minority. i remember us filibustering judges and also giving george bush nearly every single judge he demanded. this is an abuse of power and has to change. it did change today. the question going forward is how will the senate function post nuclear. >> sure. a former majority leader
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democrat robert bird once said of changing the rules, quoting, congress is not obliged to be bound by the dead hand of the past. was it wise of democrats to do this today? three democrats who voted against the measure apparently thought not. >> well, listen. they represent their states and if they think that is what they need to get re-elected as a political move it is certainly their prerogative and the republicans, you know, listen, you had the gang of 14 before and of those seven were republicans that walked us back from the brink. i get it. politically this is a political body. they do political things. i understand it. this is a simple occasion which is the democrats, if they -- republicans on the day that barack obama was inaugurated the first time had a meeting in that building and said we're going to do everything we can to stop this guy's agenda and make him a one-term president. >> he has been elected twice now. >> exactly. as he reminded "the wall street journal" he actually got re-elected. yes, in fact, he is still the
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president. he is going to be the president. and they still don't want to help him when it comes to anything. legislation, judges, cabinet appointments, sub cabinet appointments. my bigger problem is the american people look at this congress at a 9% approval rating and wonder is anything going to work? >> yeah. the republicans are at a crossroads themselves. the democrats crossed the rubicon. the senate makes their own rules. do they do it a lot? they change them when the country needs it and right now the country needs it. >> let's talk quickly about the quote of the century, the d.c. circuit of the u.s. court of appeals. >> yes. >> it weighed in on the pentagon papers, watergate tapes, even ollie north and is likely to have a say on everything from environmental to dodd/frank but we can't seem to fill it. >> every single federal independent agency, every court case when they get sued or they
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sue goes to this particular court. the judge that we voted on, the senate voted on today, do you know whose seat she was there to fill? john roberts. john roberts the chief jus tifs the united states supreme court. when was he elevated? >> years ago. >> yes. 2005. so think that through. the court is divided equally between four rs and 4 ds not counting the retired justices with seniority. of those four active judges george bush appointed three and his father one. fill the courts is the president's job. their job is to say yes or no and that is mr. mcconnell's court. >> as ever thank you so much. coming up jeffrey sachs joins us as we look back on the legacy of president john f. kennedy but first the cnbc market wrap on this historic day. >> good afternoon. it really is an historic day because wall street saw the dow closing 16,000 above for the
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50 years ago tomorrow and just over a thousand days in office the 35th president of the united states was killed by an assassin's bullet. but not with standing president-elect's brief time in office he still managed to instill hopefulness in the people of this country. a hope that we could send a man to the moon. hope to those suffering around the world that america would and could be there to help. hope that government's role was
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to serve the greater good and that government represented the best of what america had to offer. it was a style of leadership and forward thinking that we could make use of today. for more i'm joined by jeffrey sachs the author of "to move the world, jfk's quest for peace." welcome, professor. your book obviously focuses on kennedy's negotiations over the cold war and the potential nuclear catastrophe that was approaching. but also in the book you focus on that remarkable phrase of president-elect's in his speech to rice university where he said this. we choose to go to the moon in this this decade and to do other things not because they are easy but because they are hard. can you imagine anybody in the political sphere today saying that about government? >> it riveting and riveting in that case 51 years after it was
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delivered. i find it stunning and quite moving that in this week when we're considering the 50th anniversary of the assassination the gallop survey has shown once again kennedy ranks at the very top of modern american presidents and that is true for young people as well as for people like me who were alive and remember his presidency. he inspired it. it was a gift of eloquence, charm, wit, vision. and he made his share of mistakes especially in the first two years of office but he learned and he was inspiring. my book is about the third year which i think is a gift of leadership that is so spectacular, not so well understood i would say actually because people say oh, he did this, he did that. but by the third year or after the miracle of the world escaping the cuban missile
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crisis without a shot being fired and that was kennedy acting with the incredible courage and calm in the moment of maximum risk in the planet's history, he found his footing. by then, he understood power, he understood leadership. he understood, don't listen to the cia with every thing that they tell us. don't listen to the generals because he had been given such miserable advice. he took his own counsel and he said, we're going to find a way back from the brink and to make peace with the soviet union and he pulled it off. >> he did. in 1961 in his inaugural address he spoke those famous words "ask not what your country can do for you. ask what you can do for your country." and yet if kennedy inspired the nation all we have had for the last five years in the majority from republicans has been to pour scorn on the function of government, to attack
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government, obstruct government as today's actions by harry reid and the senate prove. is that why government has failed? >> it is unbelievable you kn know -- >> we can put people on the moon but can't get a website to work anymore. >> as a young boy i was listening to every space shot. america, government, nasa. we didn't have this talk, no we can't, on everything. there was absolute clarity. of course the government had led the way through the great depression. the government led the success in the war against facism. there wasn't this sense -- >> and after the second world war, all of that to america's great credit but it was led by the government. >> this really started a book i wrote last year the price of civilization we talked about. >> i read it. >> which started with ronald reagan saying the problem, the solution to our problems is not
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government. government is the problem. it was a stunning thing. i always thought if you believe that at least don't be president. we need a president that believes in government. but it has been 30 years of this scorn. and even today if people really were to look then government led the way to unraveling the human geno genome, the government has put the mars explorer on the moon. the government has championed massive breakthroughs in science, technology, information technology, nanotechnology. we've scorned, we have constriction. this is again i think where leadersh leadership -- kennedy showed with so much extreme right wing, cold war thinking, you know, when he got that treaty passed,
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he got it through 80-19. one of the wonderful things about kennedy, an amazing story, he didn't know he would get it through the senate but was determined to try and he carried the country with him. and that is leadership. >> a wonderful description, jeffrey sachs, author of "to move the world" thank you. of course there will be much more coverage on the kennedy anniversary throughout the day tomorrow and right here on msnbc. ent retirement. those dreams, there's just no way we're going to let them die. ♪ like they helped millions of others. by listening. planning. working one on one. that's what ameriprise financial does. that's what they can do with you. that's how ameriprise puts more within reach. ♪
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congestion, for the smog. but there are a lot of people that do ride the bus. and now that the buses are running on natural gas, they don't throw out as much pollution into the air. so i feel good. i feel like i'm doing my part to help out the environment. time to clear the air. while the world is rightfully toek used on the 50th anniversary tomorrow of the tragic assassination of president kennedy the 22nd of november, 1963 also marked the day when the world lost a uniquely gifted writer and academic, c.s. lewis. clive staples lewis also known to his friends as jack was a
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novelist, poet, academic, and theologian holding teaching positions at oxford and cambridge. he produced such well known works of fiction like the chronicles of narnia which have been transposed to the big screen in addition to christian apologetics including "surprised by joy" and "mere christianity." it is hard to believe when lewis talked to his lawyer about where he would like his earnings to go after he passed away he said this. after i've been dead five years no one will read anything i've written. although typically humble, lewis could not have been further from the truth. and tomorrow in the haillowhall poet's corner of west mint terse abbey a special memorial stone will be unveiled to mark the 50th anniversary of his death his name standing proudly amongst a plethora of poets ranging from william blake and charles dickins to jane austen. the 22nd of november, 1963, a
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day when the world lost not one but two of the greatest people. thanks so much for watching. my friend and colleague ed schultz is next with "the ed show." good evening americans and welcome to the ed show live from new york. let's get to work. >> the latest on their efforts to tear down obama care. >> we should not be judged on how many new laws we create. >> start from scratch addressing health insurance problems but not the way they've done. >> fire in the hole! >> we ought to be judged on how many laws we repeal. >> let's start from scratch. >> republicans are willing to destroy this country for the right reasons. >> you don't think we have a responsibility as a u.s. senator to do better than that in terms of offering a solution for what to do next? >> well, i -- i --. >> just simple

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