tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC December 12, 2013 1:00am-2:01am PST
year of the occupied and the egyptian -- i actually thought it was a good non-figurehead pick. and amy goodman, thank you all, that is all for this evening. >> good evening, thank you, my friend, thank you for joining us this hour. up all night! and apparently it is not just tonight. they're going to be up all night tonight, which is only wednesday. and then they're going to be up all night tomorrow and then they will be up all night the night after that. they are going to be up all night all the way from now until saturday. that is the plan. they are doing it again. except this time it is not just one guy, it is not just rand paul misunderstanding drone policy or ted cruz on green eggs and ham. it is not just one republican senator that is picking a pet issue that keeps them up all night. this time it is the whole republican party. and the thing for which they are
taking a stand. the thing for which the senate is still in session right now, and they're going to stay in session tomorrow night and the night after that, all the way until saturday night. the hill they have decided to die on in the senate is that they want to take a long time to vote on these nominees, none of whom are famous, and none of whom are really all that controversial. at 1:00 a.m. eastern time tonight, they are scheduled to take a vote on this non-controversial judicial nominee, her name is nina pillard? never heard of her, no problem, and also not the world's most high profile appointment. and then there are these nine other nominees who are all stacked up and ready for a vote. jay johnson is actually the famous one out of all of them. but he and all the rest of them, none of them are controversial. all of them are likely to eventually be confirmed once they do come up for a vote. but republicans have decided that they're going to take a really long time to do that.
and they have decided to mount this kind of amazing and exhausting spectacle for the end purpose of achieving nothing they wouldn't get without it. they're getting nothing in terms of a policy issue. they're getting nothing in terms of stopping or advancing a singularly popular issue. harry reid and the democrats in the senate changed the rules three weeks ago to stop republicans from being able to filibuster nominees. they said they were not opposed to the filibuster on principle, but they said republicans were abusing it, using it for everything now. they said the filibuster was no
longer for extraordinary circumstances, it just happened all the time with nobody having to make any real effort at all. and when the democrats made the change to take the filibuster power away from republicans on nominees, well, the republicans said they were very upset about it and made lots of threats on how the democrats would rue the day and regret making this change. the republicans said they had plans to get back at the democrats. and so there were lots of questions about how they meant. how the republicans would plan to fight back. what did they have up their sleeve to retaliate against the democrats? turns out, now they know. we launched it tonight. their big plan is they're going to stay up very late. making the blocking of the presidential nominations a relatively hard thing to do that takes physical endurance and puts everybody through great inconvenience, the way a filibuster is supposed to be. which is just what the democrats
wanted in the first place. this is mitch mcconnell's big idea? if this is really his payback plan, if this is what he had up his sleeve all along you got to think that democrats must be really psyched. they're probably really tired already if they're not allowed to get out of session between now and then. but this was the democrat's whole idea, right, to try to make clear this issue about the filibuster, if you want to slow something down, it ought to be hard, rolling out the cops in the senate and you staying up all night. it ought to seem like an extraordinary thing. now the republicans are doing that in order to slow down nominations. right. it was the democrat's whole idea. mitch mcconnell not only miscalculated and made the wrong bet and cost the republicans their ability to block nominees maybe forever, his surprise
tactics unveiled tonight for getting back at the democrats turns out to be the best way to prove the democrat's whole point in the first place. it is like he was hired by democratic bloggers to illustrate what is wrong with the republicans in the senate right now. with what is going on in the senate right now and what is going to be apparently going on this week and friday and saturday, i have to think the democrats are psyched. unless they're too busy being psyched on what is happening on the other side of the house. if there is one thing to take pleasure in your opponent's defeat, it has to be spectacle of them on the outside. the outbreak of war fare on what is supposed to be the inside of the fight, that is what is happening with the republicans today in the house of representatives.
>> the most major conservative groups -- >> you mean the groups that came out and opposed it before they ever saw it? >> yes, those groups. >> they're using our members and the american people for our own goals? this is ridiculous. >> this is ridiculous. to be clear, he is not calling the reporter ridiculous. he is not calling the democrats ridiculous. he is not calling the mainstream media ridiculous, he is calling the conservative movement ridiculous. a huge fight has broken out in the last 24 hours between the republican party, the republicans in congress, and the conservative movement. now, it is nominally about this small-scale budget deal that congressman paul ryan negotiated with patty murray in the senate. if this agreement were just about that deal it would probably not be this vitriolic. it is not that big of a deal.
it is like if you're having a long fight with your spouse over something going on for months, maybe years, and it is about an issue that mostly you just get along, and it is like one day, pass the salt. you realize it is not the salt, all of this other stuff building up. but finally it is just this one thing -- and john boehner is yelling at the reporter who can't even get her question out. this is ridiculous! and then, everybody is smiling nervously. and john boehner has apparently decided he is waging war on conservatives. conservatives everywhere need to understand that the party's leadership has declared war on them. if we don't fight back we'll regret it. we're going to hang together or hang separately. not that big of a budget deal. maybe this is not really about
the budget deal. the headline on politico is, gop's private war goes public. this is something that has been waiting to break out in the open for a long time now. and maybe the precipitating event was not the real thing, but now it is coming out. there was a sign something was going to break out into the open, when the internal group, the hard core conservative republicans, it has been around for 40 years. the group in the '80s that said ronald reagan was a squish, and real conservatives needed to stand up to him today. the conservative study in the middle of the fight going on between the republicans, the republican study committee today fired the guy who has been their executive director for the last 12 years. there were vague noises in the press today that he had broken protocol somehow. or maybe he inappropriately talked to the press or something? but what really happened is the republican members of congress in the republican study
committee thought he was ratting them out. ratting them out to the outside conservative groups who are now at war with the republican party and its congressional leaders. so he had to go. this is kind of a with us or against us moment among republicans. they're having a full-scale civil war. these long simmering frustrations and fights as of today they feel like more than ever before, they feel like they're turning into a full-blown scism. what happens next in the short term is that house republicans have to make a decision on whether or not they side with the outside conservative groups or whether they will side with paul ryan and john boehner on that policy issue. it is anybody's guess right now as to how that will go. if you were a republican member of congress could you say how you vote on that? would you side with those guys or the big money groups who say they will primary you if you do. and then if it does get through the house it has to go through the senate, where the conservative groups that are
funding and promoting challengers to all of these leading republican senators are saying don't you dare vote for that budget. don't you dare side with paul ryan and john boehner. if you do, we will destroy you. side with us instead. even before we get to that point, though, we're going to all be treated to a 48-hour, 72-plus hour demonstration overnight, and then overnight, and overnight again, a marathon around the clock four-day long presentation of the consequences of the bad decisions and subsequent powerlessness of republicans in congress and specifically their leadership. up all night. up all night. covering politics does not get any better than days like this. joining is now is john stanton, washington bureau chief for buzz. do you get excited?
>> it is hard to get super excited about a bunch of old guys saying they're going to stand there for three days. rich old guys don't generally stay up late not without a lot of blue pills. i'm a little suspect if it goes to saturday. but the significant thing is there are a lot of other ways they could go about with blocking through the senate. the two-hour rule, which is a very arcane part of the rules, stopping the confirmation hearing of one of president obama's nominees. >> stalled it. >> stalled it. nobody really cared. rolling out the cots and staying up all night, they found out with rand paul and ted cruz, that does get a lot of publicity. people can fundraise on it -- >> i find mitch mcconnell to be the most amazing political animal of all. it is when rand paul did the drones thing, what that got attention to was drones policy.
which was awkward for him because he didn't understand very well what he was talking about. it was a bad thing for him but got a lot of attention for him personally. when ted cruz did the green eggs and ham stunt, it did a lot of things regarding a stunt for ted cruz, this is a three-day, four-day long event that is mounted for the republican party as a whole, over the issue of the procedural nature of a senate rules change that happened three weeks ago. how could you possibly politically capitalize on that? >> i think to a certain degree, it does -- they found their base is definitely up in arms about the changes to the rules. and also judicial activism is a thing for conservatives -- >> but they're not making a case for any of these nominees. >> no, but they're saying essentially, we're with you, but for john cornyn and others beat up by the outside groups, it is important to show the
conservative bonafide -- they're still attacked as rinos, they can't do anything for these groups, they're almost grasping at straws, trying to show they're true blue conservatives. >> and at a point they're going to have to make a decision on who they side with. i want to play you a little piece of tape. this was paul ryan, making the case on conservative talk radio last night. and part of the republican leadership's case for why everybody should vote for this paul ryan case, is that it will prevent another government shutdown in january. he made this case on conservative talk radio, this is what he talked about, let's listen. >> this prevents a government shutdown in january, and prevents -- >> you guys are all worked up about that. a lot of us don't really care
about. >> he says we don't care about that. where do you go from there? >> the irony is, the house has been in the last three years the place where conservatives have held down. they have made it difficult to hold anything, and mitch mcconnell, not working with president obama or harry reid, and the senate republicans have been the ones putting pressure on conservatives who agreed to things. suddenly today, it is the opposite. house republicans are embracing paul ryan and embracing this deal. john boehner is getting to go back out there -- >> and call them ridiculous, all that stuff. >> and at the same time, suddenly mitch mcconnell and john cornyn are saying paul ryan is crazy, it is a bad idea. we don't want to do this. and it is a fascinating flip of roles. >> we'll have to see how long the house votes, they're saying saturday night that would be hilarious just for the state they would be in by then. but in the house when they go to
vote on the paul ryan thing, what is your impression? do you think it will pass? >> i think it will pass, there are enough house republicans supporting it. a lot of guys are looking for ways to put distance between themselves and heritage action, and other groups saying i'm not totally beholden to these groups. and ryan is a unique figure within the republican party. people believe in him. they think he is a conservative. the mitt romney/rhino stink didn't go to him -- >> i love that you had a staffer saying that paul ryan is our jesus, you know what? if the democrats said that, that would be the end of the world. but in the republican party, you know, that is just wednesday. john, good to see you. all right, that crazy, genuinely impossible to believe story about chris christie's high school buddies creating the single largest traffic jam, it is not becoming less of a thing,
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so it started with a traffic jam on a really inconvenient day. on the first day of school. this year in september. in a town in new jersey that abuts the busiest bridge in the whole united states of america. on the first day of school, with no notice, and apparently for no reason, all but one of the traffic lanes leading from little fort lee, new jersey to the bridge, were quickly closed off.
the busiest bridge in the nation, having usually a 32-minute commute, turned into a nightmare. and the traffic turned the streets of fort lee into a parking lot that did not let up all day and all night. and it was not just for one day and a night. it went on all week, started on a monday, tuesday, wednesday, it kept going, nobody knew why. and there was no announcement, accidents, announcement of any kind. it was just shutdown. the port authority is the name of the agency responsible for all things related to that particular bridge, since the bridge goes from new york to new jersey, new york and new jersey both run it. new york and new jersey each run one side. it is the two state agencies together. when they finally decided to explain what was going on with fort lee, they put out a message explaining what was going on because of a traffic study. the problem was, there was no record of any such traffic study
anywhere. and nobody heard of any traffic study conducted. and so as these things tend do do, because the supposed explanation made no sense, that made everybody wonder what the real explanation was. and that made the story get bigger, and then the story got weirder. "the wall street journal" has done some excellent reporting on this issue, and turns out the lane closures were ordered by one specific guy. republican activist, republican blogger, former mayor of new jersey, who was a buddy of the governor, chris christie, he had been given a political appointment to this agency, the one that runs the bridge. they testified later that when chris christie's old buddy, when he gave the order to close down fort lee's access to the bridge, that was an unprecedented request. they were never told to do anything like that before. and they were asked to keep quiet about it.
they were asked if they could notify the town, maybe make a statement? the answer was apparently no, just forget about it. don't tell anybody about it. so fort lee is about to have a city-wide log jam of hell, and were given for notice? we were not to tell anybody about it? no, forget about it. no, just do it. don't tell anyone. that all happened reportedly two weeks after the mayor of fort lee rebuffed requests from chris christie's allies to endorse the governor's bid for re-election. was it an illusion, now, nobody is under any illusion about the new jersey politics, but really? shutting down whole towns and parts of bridges to retaliate because they wouldn't give their endorsement? seriously?
it seems like something that pauly would suggest to tony, and tony would say come on, this isn't the movies. but last week, the guy who reportedly said don't tell anybody about the fort lee's access to the bridge, governor chris christie, buddy, on friday he resigned from his job. he resigned from the port authority and said the story had become a distraction, and then this real thing it got to be a real thing, as in the state assembly and the biggest newspapers in the state starting to demand answers. the number two guy at the port authority texas guy who hired chris christie's high school friend, it was his press office that put out the phony "traffic study" excuse, he has been hauled out in front of the state capitol in trenton, and today, he called bull puckey on what he said. they said the legislature should haul him up again, quote, now that his cover story is starting
to unravel, legislators should subpoena mr. barone to testify again, this time with the threat of perjury hanging over his head. addressing governor chris christie and his joking effort to brush the scandal off, the star ledger is demanding answers. quoting, this is more than political theater. the amateurish shutdown put people at risk. it is past time for jokes and fairy tales. what is needed finally are truth of answers, let's hope that the perjury charges shakes loose some official honesty. furthermore, there are calls from both sides of the bridge, new jersey and new york, for the resignation of the governor's appointment of barone, this scandal may or may not turn out to be a big deal for chris christie, so far, it is not good, clearly for the man who clearly wants to run for president. and the american bridge, ironically enough, which raises
a lot of money and spends it against republican candidates even on issues not related to bridges, they think enough of this political retaliation traffic jam of 2013 scandal that they started to work on this reproduceable incident to capitalize on the charge that chris christie is playing dirty politics and he should answer for this scandal. political retribution? expose chris christie, as of now he is responsible for guys working for him who are mixed up in this mess and still can't explain it. but the port authority's inspector general announced yesterday they're announcing their own inspection into what happened on the shutdown, and they're calling for a threat of perjury. the story is not over by a long shot, so it is not going away. not as long as the official explanations continue to make absolutely no sense. a story that sounded too crazy
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check this out. six states, new york, colorado, connecticut, maryland, california, new jersey, those six states have all passed some form of new gun safety legislation since the massacre at sandy hook elementary school a year ago this week. five of those states are controlled totally by democrats, in the sixth one, the democrats do control the legislature, but the new york times today totalled up new laws in the states overall to try to address gun violence, new laws that have passed since newtown. over the last year, they have put limits on the sale of assault weapons, requiring universal background checks that you can't just evade by going to a gun control. they added issues regarding
serious mental illness, and keeping stronger measures. for the first time in seven years, this year, the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms, the atf, finally got a senate-confirmed permanent official director, has not had one in seven years but has one now. just yesterday, vice president joe biden announced a new hundred million dollar round of funding. it is true that new federal gun laws have not passed the house and senate and been signed into law. but we've seen real change on some gun safety issues, both at the national level and in the states, especially with the tighter restrictions on guns and ammunition magazines passed in blue states. now, we have also since newtown seen looser gun laws, especially in the red states, along with 39 new laws tightening restrictions
on guns. other states have passed 70 laws loosening restrictions on guns in the past year, making it easier to get guns and adding new places where it is legal to carry them. here is the thing, though, that reflects the trend that preceded what happened in newtown. before that, they had been on a year-long spree to loosen gun access, and loosen safety regulations wherever they could. florida governor jeb bush signed the "stand your ground law." after florida passed "stand your ground law," more than 20 other states followed florida's example. the governor flipped those like dominos. in 2009 and 2010, red states started to pass new laws that let you carry a gun into bars.
what could possibly go wrong in the mixing of alcohol and firearms? so after newtown, some red states kept up their efforts to get more guns and more powerful guns into the hands of more people, to give law enforcement less to work with, to loosen the restrictions that are supposed to keep guns away from the criminals and mentally ill. some states have stepped up their efforts in that regard, since newtown. yes, that is true. but that kind of thing is already happening. the thing that changed after newtown was this. was some. >> restrictions on guns. movement in the law in that direction had not been happening at all, before newtown. basically, anywhere in the country. and that has changed in this past year. in a big way in states like maryland and california and most definitely in connecticut. newtown was the catalyst in all that. before newtown, the gun laws in
certain states, they represented sort of a static position in politics, they're sort of the permanent, less powerful oppositions to groups like the nra. after newtown, that movement has grown wings, with moms demand action for gun sense, and gabrielle giffords' work. and those who have lost loved ones, not necessarily to street violence, all calling for change, doing it in their own way. a new movement in this country for gun safety reform. as we approach this weekend, one year since the shooting at sandy hook elementary school, the people of newtown have been
asking the media and people in general to please not come pouring into town for the anniversary, they say they understand the concern and the interest. but the media presence alone can paralyze the town and has in the past. nobody wants anybody to forget newtown, and nobody will, particularly on this new anniversary. but if you were of a mind that what happened at the elementary school a year ago, that requires a moral response, i think the idea that that response could and maybe should be something that you do in your state, in your town. not in theirs, let newtown be. joining is now is congresswoman elizabeth este, her district includes newtown. thank you for joining us, i appreciate your time tonight. >> i really appreciate the chance to be with you here tonight. >> in terms of people marking the anniversary in their own states and towns and not in newtown, are you hearing about plans like that?
are you hearing about ways to channel the effort into newtown into helping people market it in their own ways in newtown? >> we have, we have helped coordinate that, those who have been active in washington as part of the gun violence prevention task force. and really groups across the country have spread the word and wishes across newtown to mark this solemn anniversary with acts of kindness in their own way. as you said what has dramatically changed in the last year is that newtown is no longer simply a place, but in this words of my good friend, monte frank, who has been a real parent activist, galvanized in his community, it is not just a place, it is a movement. and that movement is happening in all cities and towns across america. >> we can see in year one of this movement, as you say, there has been some policy change. there has been some policy change at the national lethal and in blue states, not so much
in red states, carrying on as they did before. and in terms of what you are hearing people trying to work on in the states, do you expect there to be further change in terms of law? >> i think we'll continue to see growth and support and change. the american people overwhelmingly support common sense gun reforms to keep our children safe on the streets, in their homes, at their schools and to keep young people safe and families safe everywhere. today, we had a group of families from all across america. and it is not simply newtown. but it is washington, d.c. and it is hartford, connecticut and chicago. and it is every city and every town in america that is affected by this epidemic of gun violence. >> we have talked -- you have been on the show, and we've spoken a few times since what happened last december in newtown.
i wonder, looking back on it, the way this past year has gone if there is anything that you knew now or that you have learned over the course of this year, that you wish you knew then. if there was any advice you could give yourself or anybody else who ever has to deal with something like that about how to cope and in your case, how to lead in this kind of a context. >> i think you have to use the touch stone, in my case it was using what it felt like to be a parent. and helping to be as respectful and i possibly could be and as courageous has these families have been. and rather than responding with anger or despair as they had every right to. instead, they responded with encourage and kindness, and frankly i think it has opened the eyes and hearts of america to the price of inaction, and that inspires me every day. and their courage and their persistence is what i have taken, we cannot give up.
>> local officials have been supportive. the highest officials and representatives of the families have talked about how they don't want people to come to newtown. physically, they don't want the media there. they don't want people to send anything to the town there on the occasion of marking one year since the massacre happened. i wonder if you share those feelings and if you feel like they're being respected. >> i do share and support the community's feelings. they have had to go through an unimaginable tragedy and horror in an exceptionally public way. and they have channelled that grief and outpouring of support in remarkable ways. but this one-year anniversary is really a time for them to grieve and heal in their own private ways. and i think they have been very
wise to call on us as a nation those of us who are moved by not only what happened in newtown but by gun violence in our own communities. to take positive steps and respond with an act of kindness, that is what we're doing here in washington, we have families here participating in an event and are encouraging others to do the same. mark thompson, the chairman of our task force and other members of congress will join us at martha's table here in washington, later this week as well as families from newtown. and gun violence, victims and families from across the country are joining us to mark the occasion. >> thank you, congresswoman elizabeth esty, whose district includes newtown. thank you very much for talking with us tonight. i know that this week will be a very tough week for you, please stay in touch and let us know what you can do. >> well, thank you very much. and for your continued interest and support, in this country, standing up for political
threaten the world's financial system. the volcker rule is something the banks have spent two years and millions lobbying against, but they lost the fight. that was yesterday. now today, the single most interesting ongoing fight within the democratic party also landed with a thud on wall street, "the wall street journal" reported on democratic senator elizabeth warren, saying any democrat who wants to expand social security or not cut medicare, like elizabeth warren, is a laughing stock and should never be taken seriously. the group that wrote that op-ed is called "third way," and calls themselves a liberal group. but liberal democrats are mad that third way could have any effect at all in politics, there was pushback regarding elizabeth warren herself, but today, the
committee delivered to the third ways doorstep in washington, d.c. the pccc are demanding the anti-liberal forces in the democratic party show themselves. they're demanding that third way explain where they get their money from and who they are. there has been a fascinate thing to watch unfold on the left over the last few days. including the website, daily coast, posting this chart to at least help people understand who is on third way's board of trustees. the list of their board of trustees. this is the annotated list. this is what they do or have done for a living. investment banker. investment banker. ceo. investment banker. hey, you are the guys who want the democrats to take more positions that are good for wall street and bad for everybody else? why is that?
on the democratic side, this fight, populous and liberals against wall street. this one has been a fascinating one to watch. it does not appear to be over. this is the kind of fight the liberals always used to lose. but in the democratic party right now. sort of seems like the wall street guys are going to lose and liberal guys are going to win. we shall see. that's how it feels like it is going. watch this space. fine lines appear to fade. one month, deep wrinkles look smoother. after one year, skin looks ageless. high performance skincare™ only from roc®. take skincare to the next level with new roc® multi correxion® 5 in 1, proven to hydrate dryness, illuminate dullness, lift sagging, diminish the look of dark spots, and smooth the appearance of wrinkles. high performance skincare™ only from roc®.
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when the movie came out, some law makers had their suspicions. >> one of the areas of concern its over the question of this -- this accommodation with hollywood filmmakers, regarding the bin laden raid. it's been alleged that -- that the name of -- one of the participants in that, one of our uniformed participants in that
has been made public. we were wondering, question is whether, what other details have been shared about that. >> you have got to be able to -- protect those who are involved in clandestine operations. having said that no unauthorized disclosures were provided to movie producers or any body else? >> that's the claim. no unauthorized disclosures were provided to the movie producers who made zero dark 30. true or false? false, newly declassified documents from the cia say they did make unauthorized disclosures to the zero dark 30 filmmakers. apparently it was an accident. then panetta revealed classified information about the raid at cia headquarters. nothing wrong with giving a speech about something cia did. unbeknownst to him apparently one of the filmmakers was in the room. he didn't know that when he revealed the classified name of the ground commander of the unit who carried out the bin laden raid. so, yeah, apparently that did happen. oops. true or false one of the ways the u.s. government is providing material assistance to protestors in ukraine demonstrating in kiev's main square, one way they're helping them out is by giving them snacks. is that true or false? the u.s. assistant secretary of
state, visiting, there she is. independence square today, walking through the crowd. holding a white plastic bag filled with snacks. bread, maybe cookies or base -- biscuits. offering snacks to protesters camped out for weeks. and offers some of them to the police. you're hungry. come on. that standoff in kiev, the main square has been escalating. last night before dawn. black helmeted riot police, some where, as well, carrying -- carrying riot police shield and batons. they charged at protesters camped out at the square. the police charged at the crowd. broke through the barricades. bulldozed the camps the protesters built where they had been sleeping. big swaths of the square were cleared out. it was a violent confrontation. and dozens of people were
injured. in response to that crackdown, secretary of state, john kerry er issued a statement. the united states expresses discuss with the decision of ukrainian authorities to meet the peaceful protest in kiev square. rather than with respect for democratic right and human dignity. the state department even suggested to day the u.s. government might kid sanctions against ukraine if the violent crackdown there continues. now, this is nowhere near over. by 10:30 this morning, security forces had withdrawn from the square. and within hours, the protesters barricades all went back up. the interior minister said today, that last night's overnight crackdown was reportedly just to clear traffic congestion. he promises there will now be no further crackdowns of the sort. we shall see. last one. true or false. during the memorial service for the late nelson mandela this week, where dignitaries from around the world gathered to pay homage.
this man, man on the right side of your screen was doing helpful and useful sign language interpretation of the speeches made to the crowd and to the vast tv audience. is that what that man is doing? is he a sign language interpreter? true or false? that is false. the man who appears to be the appointed man translating the speeches given at the memorial is a fake interpreter. he is just waving his hand around in random gestures. for a global audience of millions. he is speaking no known sign language a deaf member of south africa's parliament noticed this guy was a fake and tweeted this. anc linked interpreter cannot sign at all, he is making up signs. please get hem off. you can see here, when a real sign language interpreter on the left-hand side of the screen, signs what is said during the memorial. they're doing totally different things. the guy on the right side is making it up. person on the left is signing. dude on the right is doing who knows what. he stops at some point. starts looking around. he starts up the random gesture over and over. not his first go around as a fake interpreter of major events
in south africa. here he is making stuff up for the video of the 100th anniversary of the national african congress last august. yeah, who is the guy? how come he keeps turning up? i don't know. is he real? he is not real. he is something else. but is he real? he is not real. he is something else. "first look" is up next. good thursday morning. right now on "first look" senate stapo standoff working through the night. finger pointing, new ntsb video released with details why this boeing 777 crash landed in san francisco this summer. a developing story aboard the international space station as scientists scramble against time. plus nbc's miguel almaguer trekz to t treks to the scene of a sub-zero improbable rescue. good morning, i'm