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so what does your airport not have that you want? your response was a good one. >> i really want some puppy play centers. karma. what else? >> rich had a good one. besides on time flights, how about a putting green? >> that's an awesome idea. a wii lounge. "morning joe" starts right now. republican paul ryan and democrat patty murray announced they reached a deal tuesday after two months of negotiations. >> these two members of congress who did the deal are visual analogs for how the two sides cannot see eye to eye. they are a life-size bar graph of the fiscal distance between
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the parties. and, quite frankly, if i may be so bold, the two of them look like all my prom pictures in reverse. >> and, good morning. it is thursday, december 12th. welcome to "morning joe." >> it's great to be here. >> yes, i can see that. >> with us on set, mike barnacle. the chairman much deutsch, incorporated, donny deutsch. okay. and in washington, we got a lot of really interesting news out of washington this morning. nbc news capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell. we'll start though -- >> while you were talking i was
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doing better than the other guy. >> well, we'll start there. you want to start there? >> why not. it's kind of different. let's do it. >> okay. >> what have you got, t.j., catch me signing. holy cow. >> there's new information on the sign language -- i got a sign for you, actually. >> what's that? >> you'll get it. >> oh, that sign. you give me that sign all the time when we're off air. >> that sign language interpreter accused of signi signing jibbe everyorish. there was a global uproar over his gestures saying they were meaningless. >> nbc news paid a lot of money whenever there's a controversy
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about signing and sign language interpreters. they go to you. >> i don't get as much work as i would like to. >> this is your moment. as the bible says you were born for a time such as these. does this guy actually know how to do it? has he ever done it before? do we know this? >> he may have done it before correctly. he claims he has done it many times before but in this case he had a schizophrenic episode and these experts said he was signing complete jibberish. >> the man said during the service he started to hear voices and hallucinating. he saw angels in the stadium and was trying not to panic. with armed policemen around him. he said i was alone in a very dangerous situation. i tried to control myself and not show the world what was going on. i'm sorry. it's a situation i found myself in.
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i think he could have just walked off. >> how does a guy like that clear security? >> exactly. >> how does that happen. >> if you have a schizophrenic attack two -- >> a lot of people say it's a fraud. that he shamed a momentus event. a broadcaster used their own interpreter and noticed the difference. the man has signed for other high-profile events in the past, including the president and said he was hired through an interpretation company. the south african government continues to investigate. >> i think he's making this stuff up. he's just going with it. >> honestly, mike made the point he's an arm's length away from president obama and other world leaders. that ain't funny. >> no.
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>> that is -- oh, my gosh. >> it's bizarre. >> totally bizarre. okay. can we go to washington? it's interesting enough. >> i rather stay here. >> you are in so much trouble. okay. >> what did do you? >> i don't know. >> i want you to handle this next story really well. >> i want to know why he's in trouble. >> what? from yesterday? what? what do you mean. >> which one was yesterday? >> the budget deal was stupid. >> no. >> okay. >> okay. in washington house lawmakers are expected -- >> wait. come on. you got viewers out there getting up early. you say something like that and they are -- >> do you know how many people tweeted me telling me to hit you. >> for what? >> identify done that enough. >> what did i do. >> no.
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you just need to take a chill pill and hold on to the refrigerator, okay. >> this is unfair. >> hold on to the refrigerator. >> in washington house lawmakers are expected to vote -- why don't you just -- >> hold on to the blender. >> as the hold saying goes. >> hold on to the refrigerator. i don't know what that means. >> calm down. stop interrupting and pull it together. >> i've been calm and you weren't even on the show yesterday. >> i'll do this. you sit tight. the ryan-murray budget is what we're talking about and hopefully being set up for a -- i cannot believe you. now you're in trouble. no, no put the hands down. >> this proposal appears to have
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enough bipartisan support to pass through congress. with conman paul ryan winning over skeptical republicans during a closed door meeting yesterday but that doesn't mean there aren't dissenting voices. >> a source close -- >> the interpreter is here. >> mitch mcconnell says he plans to vote against the bill and democrats says the republicans are putting the bill's passage at risk by excluding unemployment benefits. it pits ryan against ted cruz, marco rubio who have come out against the bill. there are also a number of outside conservative groups that are opposing the bipartisan spending plan. speaker john boehner and congressman ryan directly addressed that opposition yesterday. take a listen. >> most major conservative groups put out statements blasting this deal. >> you mean the groups that came out and opposed it before they
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ever saw it? they are using our members and the american people for their own goals. this is ridiculous. listen, if you're for more deficit reduction you're for this agreement. >> did you ever think a piece of legislation that you were responsible for would be called not conservative enough. >> yeah. it's a strange new normal, isn't it. groups will do what they want to do. what matters to me am i doing what i think is right, am i sticking to my principles, am i listening to my colleagues who had the voting card. >> is something happening? >> paul is actually getting a pass. i hate this deal. a lot of conservatives hate this deal. you know, if you're going to pay for extra spending, don't tell us you'll pay for it ten years from now. that's a lie. >> eight years. >> if you're going to talk about
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a budget deal where you play small ball, 12% of the budget it's a terrible deal. it avoid, mike, the government shutdown, obviously, but it's a terrible deal for conservatives. i understand why conservatives don't like it. but i think it will pass and paul ryan is getting a pass on this from the conservatives inside the conference because they know he had to strike a deal. >> isn't it because the bar has been lowered, it's now at curve level. people are walking around saying wow they spoke to one another. doesn't it also outline the fact, patty murray and paul ryan speaking to one another it outlines the fact that deals in congress, you can get them done if you talk to one another. >> exactly. >> that's a start, at least. >> i think it's pretty significant that they have at least hammered out a deal that
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conservatives like me hate. >> i'll go to kelly on this. paul ryan said he knows this isn't the grand bargain. but he called it a first step. almost a good faith to show democrats an republicans can work together. the larger question is that bargain even out there, will it ever be out there where one side revenue is raised and cuts are made to entitlement programs. up to now there wasn't a lot of hope for that. >> there's so much talk about it but the practical reality of that happening any time soon seems very remote. what i think is interesting about this if we look back to the government shutdown and there were conservatives that wanted a repeal or full out delay of the health care law, and then after the shutdown and all the criticism people said that was an unachievable goal they were swinging for and put the country into an abyss of shutdown. here, probably an unachievable
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goal with entitlement reform so instead of going to that brink they found a place, perhaps it is at curb level but they found a level to have some sort of agreement to at least show people that government can function on some level. everybody says it's pretty maul ball but it's working on some very narrow areas where there is some common ground and it takes some of the heat off. you watched dysfunction, we talked about it endlessly. here's a chance to put some of that on the shelf for a while and give a two year window assuming this passes to try to work for the bigger things. it is an accomplishment in smaller than lower case. >> kelly, what are the prospects for an extension of unemployment benefits? that was not part of this deal. it's a huge priority for millions of people and families in this country as we approach christmas and the holiday season. what are the prospects for getting that passed?
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>> it does not appear very good right now because of the calendar and because of how many other things are on congress's plate. they got to get through this issue with the budget. there's the farm bill and all the implications of that and what would happen to milk prices if it doesn't pass. what i'm being told is conversations are still going on between speaker boehner's office, white house, democrats to look at the issue how to extend benefits for people out of work the longest. where do you find the money for that? that is a challenge. do you simply tack it on to the deficit. republicans won't support that. do you find some other cut somewhere else? in the murray-ryan conversations they knew there was interest in trying to resolve that issue but that was one of those things that could have put the potential for this small deal in jeopardy yet again. so they kept that to the side. so the benefits run out december 28th. given the fact that the house is
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intent on leaving town, the senate is working all night, i don't even think we mentioned they have been working through the night voting on nominations, it doesn't look particularly good. that doesn't mean they can't address it in january and try to retroactively do something that's one of those magical powers congress has. >> i want to show donny these ad, the nbc/wall street journal poll gives us a glimpse at the political impact of obama care and how it may impact 2014 mid-terms. obama care was seen as the number one issue shaping public opinion of the president as the president's disapproval reached all time highs. >> donny, 58%. it's stunning. but now that's nationwide. you start focusing on states like north carolina and then you go to arkansas, another democrat in danger in running a red state and the state we're talking
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about this morning, louisiana. another very red state. you know that 58% is probably much, much higher and that's causing democrats that are trying to get re-elected in 2014 big problems. >> democratic senator mary landrieu up for re-election in the red state of louisiana where president obama got just 40% of the vote here are two ads running in louisiana one by the national republican senatorial committee and on by senator landrieu's campaign. >> there's danger lurking out there. many warned it's coming. now it's on the hunt and headed for you. >> at 80,000 people statewide will not be able to keep their current insurance because of the federal health care overhaul. >> louisianans are struggling because of obama care but for some reason mary landrieu is running on health care and she told reporters quote i'm not
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send about anything. she cast the deciding vote for obama care in the first place. it's the brave new world of government incompetence that we'll live in. >> i'm mary landrieu and i approve this message. hundreds of people across the country losing their coverage. what identify said to the president is you told them they could keep it. >> landrieu introduced keeping the affordable care promise. >> senator landrieu said president obama needs to stick to his word. >> this is a promise you made. this is a promise you should keep. wow. throwing the president under the bus. >> if the elections were in january, it's pretty clear what would happen here. >> what would happen? >> democrats would get knocked off. the numbers speak for themselves. we have to look at the numbers month by month. we had 265,000 people sign up
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last month. if come june we're still in place where people losing policies outweigh people signing up is a lose. as soon as those numbers turn the world changes. it's very hard right now to say what will happen 11 months from now. >> i think things will turn. i think this is an issue no matter what. you'll have a new set of issues in march, new set of issues during the summer. >> with obama care? >> right. >> can republicans get in the way of the website working. >> mika -- >> because if they can't we'll be okay. >> let's stick to what we're talking about not doing a shotgun blast out there of all these things. we don't know what's going to happen. but the chances are good if you stir up the market the way it's being stirred up by this there are winners and losers and the problem is the president didn't tell the truth and mary landrieu is thrown under the bus.
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that's an issue in 2014 no matter what happens between now and 2014. donny, do what we are asking you to do here and look at those two ads and let's just say the election is in january. >> they are great. they are nasty and right in your face. to literally create a metaphor, an alligator for obama care. obama care is more government. coming for you. more government. they are eating at you. it's a classic, nasty -- >> what about the mary landrieu ad? good response? >> it's the only response. >> she goes after the president. does that work when you go after the president in your own party. >> that's all you got to do. that's tissue. it is what it is. once again i believe the issue is not going to go away to your point. we're still 11 months away. even if the numbers do turn.
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once again the dotted line, obama care, meaning more government, forget the legislation, people don't want it. >> i don't agree. >> that's a shock. >> i would like to say why. >> i don't agree because i think that if they can get a lot of people signed up and continue on the trajectory of getting to their goal, that's also more people getting health insurance who couldn't get it ever before. i'm not done. and if there is more good news on the jobs front, we get six as the first number i think things could really turnaround. >> they got to win by two touchdowns. you can spin it both ways. unless it's a clear decisive turn as far as legislation working selling against it is a much easier sell than selling for it. >> so, you know what the killer line here is, donny, and
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everybody that ran in 1994 was able to use this line against their democratic congressman or congresswoman in the house. they cast the deciding vote. in our case in '94, bill clinton, of course, you remember when everybody was yelling, bill clinton passed his big tax increase by one vote. so whether you're running in pennsylvania or whether you're running in pensacola, florida, you're able to say hey in my case i was saying i cast a deciding vote on the largest tax increase in american history and you'll send him back to washington. very effective line. here you'll have every democrat that voted for this. kay haggen has the deciding vote. gene shaheen has the deciding case. if it weren't for kay haggen
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there wouldn't be an obama care. if it weren't for mary landrieu. that's such a powerful argument. mike barnacle they got it with every single democrat. >> they do right now on december 12th, 2013. but august 14th, 2014, what if the opponent the democrat says i did cast the deciding vote and that's why young willie geist has health insurance and can get his prescription cost cut. >> the problem is, though, she supported it and now she's running from it. can you runback to it. >> no. >> mitt romney did and that worked out for him. >> not really. kelly -- >> one of the things in talking to mary landrieu day-to-day she will say she's not running from the health care law but she wants to fix it. she does believe that in the state of louisiana there are a lot of people who will be potentially helped by it.
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but the subtext here is this idea of being willing to stand up to your party and trying to fix things. voters hate the fact that too many in congress are viewed as just sort of going along and not trying to actually get something done. so the fix it idea, i think, is kind watch lesser point in her ad but one that does sort of stand a bit of time even if the exchanges do improve in their accessibility and people sign up. the fix it idea has some legs for a democrat who is trying to be seen as not hiding but trying to do something. she really is take on harry reid privately and trying to push this sort of thing. i'm not sure she will be successful in making big changes but she's willing to mix it up. blanche lincoln a friend of this program lost her race because of that same idea in 2010 about being a deciding vote. democrats have lots of evidence of how being attached to the
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health care law can be politically perilous in these states. >> it will be a historical moment if the 2014 election, barack obama's second mid-term election is decided on the same issue that his first mid-term election was. >> tbd. >> to be determined. no doubt about it. democrats have the most difficult thing i see. you've seen it before too, mike, when somebody in their own party tries to run away from their president -- i can tell you firsthand in debates, i had a guy running away from bill clinton in 1994. okay. so wait. you are for him -- i'm sorry. because they kept saying i didn't support bill clinton on this. by the end you can just -- you can just pull that thread and the entire campaign unravels and
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people go wait a second why were you voting for him? >> it's going to be particularly difficult for mary landrieu given where she's running from to runback to him. >> i bet it turns around. >> a refrigerator. >> wait. what? >> i don't know. you were saying grab the refrigerator. >> what happened there. >> i have to go to a break. a fridge? >> kenmore be subzero. >> lick the microwave. >> what? >> why would he say that. >> clarify that. >> coming up on "morning joe" -- >> we have paul ryan here. also nbc news with chuck todd and talking to former white house adviser melody barnes. and martha stewart.
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she's coming here on set and she is angry. >> what is she going to do? >> she is upset that -- she did that date.com or whatever it was and she got spammed. donny, this silicon valley guy, they kept shooting like donny, pictures of donny. >> i saw a good one from her. we were sitting in the "today" show studio. >> the guy. >> he had parents but nice guys. >> what? >> parents? >> what is this? >> i don't know. >> coming up next we got the top stories in "the politico" playbook. grab your refrigerator, fellows. this will be a long show. we have bill karins right now. hey, bill -- guys. bill, it's cold outside and i don't particularly like it being
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this cold. is it going to warm up? >> it was 80 in miami yesterday. >> oh, dear lord. >> nice. >> not any time soon. we'll go from cold in the northeast to snow this weekend and then the cold next week again. winter is here to stay at least for the next ten days. plus talk about the cold because as joe mentioned it's brutal out there. new england is bad but much worse from chicago to minneapolis, green bay. negative 27, wind chill at international falls. they call it ice box of america. wind chill not much better. pittsburgh at minus 2. 7 in hartford. one of the coldest mornings we've seen yet. how much snow is coming? not a huge snowstorm. good three to six inches from illinois, ohio, pennsylvania through new york state and through new england. also some icy mess mixed in d.c., philly and areas like new york city. so we'll fine tune that forecast for you but that's saturday during the day. today travel looks fine all the major airports but just a very cold day from the northern
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time now to take be a look at the morning papers. "new york times" political troubles in the ukraine are spilling over to georgia where lawmakers came to blows on the floor of parliament. one lawmaker introduced a resolution to support the protesters another politician did not agree. he kicked him in the leg. leading to an all right brawl. meanwhile in the ukraine riot police stormed a protester camp.
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among the protesters, vitale. >> u.s. is freezing aid to northern syria. a group linked to al qaeda has seized critical warehouses holding u.s. military equipment. islamic fighters are forcing a top rebel commander out of the country. the white house is still struggling to determine who exactly represents our allies on the ground. >> from our parade of papers the "san francisco chronicle," more dials are emerging about the plane crash in san francisco which killed three people and left dozens injured. newly released surveillance footage shows asiana flight 214 crashing in to a seawall back in july. investigative report says the pilot who was on his final training check for the boeing 777 said he was unfamiliar with the plane's auto pilot systems. experts say automation addiction pilots -- automation addiction is to blame here potentially
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pilots relying too heavily on compute towers operate the plane. investigators did not find any mechanical problems with the jet. >> chicago times, hilton worldwide has raised $2.3 billion on it's biggest ever ipo. hilton went private in 2007 before the financial crisis and will begin trading on the new york stock exchange later today. >> "l.a. times," 16 teenagers are facing charges in california after allegedly looting and trashing a mansion during a house party. l.a. police say the tolden goods and damage to the home totalled $1 million. some of the stolen items include designer suits, medieval armor. some suspects were caught after posting selfies with the stolen items to social media sites.
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>> just can't do that. >> what in the world. you don't rent a house for your teen kids. it's just too dangerous. you just don't do it. they are teens. they have the teen brain. >> doing a selfie before. mike allen. >> oddly with a snow leopard. >> with a snow leopard. at a lady gaga concert. still talking about it down in washington. >> they are. mike allen chief white house correspondent. mike, good morning. >> good morning. >> so you guys have a big piece up there. talking about wall street. fed up with washington not just president obama not just republicans for the way they conducted themselves but in general they are done with washington. what does that mean? what are the implications. >> wall street feels besieged. the conversation in the democratic party running towards
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income equality, opposing high ceo pay. fascinating development. hillary clinton looking ahead to 2016, constituency that could be very helpful to her recently did a paid speech for goldman sachs. they had their investors in. and her message for them, at a time when they feel back on their heels was very soothing. her message ben and maggie report was we all got into this mess together, we're going to get out of it together and it's counter productive to bash banks the way washington has been doing. this is what they are excited to see. this is very helpful constituency to her. but the problem is it runs counter to what's going on in the party. so a tension for hillary clinton. >> as we look towards 2016 hillary clinton could be a part of that. another guy is chris christie from new jersey. some rich color in the piece. first about wall street sort of trying to lure him into the 2012
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presidential race, one of the bigwigs on wall street unsuccessful. what do they like about chris christie going forward? >> these guys love him. they will try again. they like the fact that he's not seen as ideological. he's from the area. he's their kind of republican. and did fantastically when he met with some of these groups of people. they had him in to court him, urge him to run. the fact that he was tough to get last time makes him all the more alluring this time. so in new york in a group that would traditionally be democratic, the fire for chris christie is just as hot as ever. >> there's a great scene in the piece where maggie and ben right about in 2011 in a dark room somewhere in a fancy club, ken langone and henry kissinger.
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it's an interesting piece. what you take out of it is wall street likes both hilary and chris christie. it could be an interesting race in 2016. >> they did. they went one step further with chris christie. they said if you get in we'll get you the money. that's one of the rarest promises in politics. >> mike allen, a look at the playbook. thanks so much. coming up next the rg3 saga continues. why the team's head coach says why the reigning rookie of the year will not be in the lineup for the rest of the season. ♪
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>> still emotional. i thought the fans were -- it was just really nice day. this is such a classy place.
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this is such a neat place. i tell people all the time, people don't get boston. they really don't. they don't understand. and i think you have to be part of it to get it. i really do. i don't think you can get it from the outside. >> that's los angeles clippers head coach doc rivers returning to boston for the first time since he left. he spent nine seasons as a head coach there. won an nba title for boston and mike barnacle incredibly popular up there still. he got a stand ovation. >> he's an extraordinary human being first and a terrific basketball coach obviously second. last night's reception for doc rivers in boston brought him to tears. they had a video tribute to him at the end of the first period which was another largely emotional event during the course of the game. but i can't tell you -- he's a perfect basketball coach. >> clippers won the game 96-88.
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baseball rule changes. the committee plans to outlaw collisions at home plate. the details are yet to be defined. it's expected runners will have to slide into home and catchers will not be able to block the plate. >> why? >> could go into effect as early as next season. >> injuries, concussions. mike do you support this? >> yeah. >> what you? >> it's subject -- >> come on. >> catchers know how to absorb those now. those hits. it's part of the game. >> part of the game. i'm the guy whining about head injuries in the nfl and talking about how stupid it is that they fight in hockey but come on this is part of the game. >> catchers learn to swipe tags. most catchers know how to do that. very few home plate collisions. give me the last time a game was decided 0 a run scoring on a home plate collision.
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>> robert griffin iii will spend the remainder of the season on the bench. head coach mike shanahan announced the decision yesterday. >> willie, better late than never. he should have come to this conclusion last january. it caused him severe damage in his career. but he came to it eight months, nine month, ten months late. >> probably could have done it last week in the some when the season was lost. >> how about the beginning of the year. >> what's wrong with shanahan. we were critical of him in the playoffs last year. letting this kid who is a franchise player, one of the greatest quarterbacks to come out in a long time, what's wrong with shanahan. even after taking a barrage of criticism during the offseason set him up to fail this year. >> ran him on the playoffs last year basically on one leg.
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he shouldn't have been on the field and came back too soon this year. >> also you have a owner that's very meddle some and this is his guy. you don't know what's going on behind-the-scenes. >> daniel snyder. sell the team. >> curt cousins is the secretary of state. given spoke yesterday about shanahan's decision to sit him. >> i expressed my desire to play. of course, i want to be out there and finish my season with my guys and see it through and he explained to me his reasoning, and at the end of the day coach's decision is what we go with. >> so curt cousins is the starter now in d.c. did you see this story about george w. bush. >> what a great story. bush 43 sent university of alabama kicker kab foster handwritten note of encouragement. foster posted the note on
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twitter. it reads dear cabe. life has its setback. however you will be stronger human with time. he missed three field goals in alabama's loss to auburn. >> maybe 43 can write an additional note to nick sabin telling him how to treat people. >> nice going. >> this guy has been there for alabama. if i'm not mistaken how many field goals did he kick to win the national championship against lsu? >> exactly. >> the kid has been there. which i got to say while nick sabin is critical of players you know what do you when a guy misses three physician and you're on the 15 yard line? send him out and go guess what, isn't this going to be great? isn't it going to be great to
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have redemption and you're is going to win the game for us. that's awesome, man. go out and do it. and show them. like that's what you do. i hate to say this, hate to bring up a story. 17-0 at halftime, tennessee, number one. they took cameron in the locker room, oh, my gosh, first time. and bright was going to yell and scream. he did that. he goes i cannot believe what you guys have just set up. you're going to show your character now. whole country is watching. you're going to go out, 17 up, you're going to go out and win this game and show them what you're made of. they turned around and laughed and said fantastic. >> joe it's like the speeches you give before we go on air. >> we do the prayer circle,
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about evolving and learning. "new york times" -- "new york times" the appalling stance of rand paul. senator rand paul said sunday on fox news i do support unemployment benefits for the 26 weeks that they are paid for. if you extend it beyond that do you a disservice to these workers. this statement strikes at the heart, were a heart to exist of the divide between conservatives and liberals about whether the social safety net provides temporary help for those who hit hard times or functions as a kind of glue to keep them stuck there. whereas i'm sure that some people will abuse any form of help, i'm by no means convinced that this is the exclusive domain of the poor and put-upon. businesses and the wealthy regularly take advantage of subsidies and tax loopholes without blinking an eye. but somehow when some poor people or those who unexpectedly fall on hard times take
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advantage of benefits for which they are eligible it's an indictment of the morality and character of the poor as a whole. >> i don't think rand paul was indicting all poor people with this statement. this has been an ongoing debate. donny deutsch, it was during welfare reform in tea -- in the '90s when we were called cruel and heartless. everybody said we were cruel and ended up being dead wrong. >> i'll say this as somebody who has hired thousands of people over the years and had to let people go. i get to meet the person who is on unemployment that would not trade it in a minute for employment. in any issue there are always people who abuse something. but to me, people want to work. >> you don't think -- mike, let me ask you. going forward from the great
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society, you don't think there was welfare program and toney, that create as culture of dependency that over 20 years created rot in a lot of america's inner cities? had the wrong incentives. >> there is a culture of dependency in this country and the culture dependency, in part, is it can be found like in lower income families and certain urban areas. the culture of dependency can be found in the family program, in the pay outs for big banks. i have always believed, long believed, written about it endlessly, the hardest job in america is being poor. nobody wants their child to be born poor. nobody sits around and says i'm pregnant, i'm going to have a kid i hope the kid is born poor so we can go on welfare. is there welfare abuse?
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absolutely. did it need to be done in the '90s? absolutely. we beat up on the boar in this country endlessly. >> the minimum wage is -- i mean there are other ways we can address the problem because some people working can't afford to survive. >> first of all, we certainly don't beat up on the poor around this table, and we have to understand it's simple leah balancing act. this idea, you know, the idea -- the pope talked about it. sort of trickle down economics is going to save everybody, laisse faire economics will save everybody. no it's not. but the trickle down liberalism. they will come up with governmental programs that take care of the poor when we all know the best social job, the best program is a job. and you don't create new jobs by
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too much for some. >> i don't know the details of it so i'll reserve judgment on it until we read it. i can tell you my view based on press reporting -- my sense is of what i read is that this budget is gonna fail to accomplish those goals. it's gonna destroy america. >> i'll reserve my judgment but it sucks. >> gosh. welcome back to "morning joe." donny deutsch is still with us. joining the table, lawrence o'donnell. in washington former direct josh of the white house, domestic policy council of melody barnes solutions, melody barnes. good to have you both. donny still with us as well. great to be here. we'll start in washington. >> oh, good, we're not going to do the sign language. we went off track last time. it definitely did. way off track. >> what was the solution for that, melody? when you have a guy signing --
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>> a real security issue. >> in front of hundreds of millions of people and he claims he had a schizophrenic attack and within three feet of barack obama. >> i don't know what to say that. it's highly troubling. >> can you cover this last night? >> we did. >> i watch every night but last night -- >> it's very late for you. but, i mean how did he get the security clearance because he had to get credentials. in fact you see the credentials around his neck. that's just stunning. >> okay. let's go to washington. house lawmakers are expected to vote on the ryan-murray budget today. >> he's just making that stuff up. >> that was steal second. >> bobby cox. >> setting up the senate for a vote next week. the proposal appears to have enough bipartisan support to pass through congress with congressman paul ryan winning
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over some skeptical republicans during a closed door meeting yesterday. that doesn't mean there are not dissenting voices. a source close to minority leader mitch mcconnell says he plans to vote against the bill. democrats in the house say republicans are putting the bill's passage at risk by excludeing unemployment benefits. the bill pits congressman ryan against senators rand paul, marco rubio and ted crews who have come out against the bill. all four men are interested in seeking the renomination for president in 2016. there's also a number of outside conservative groups who are opposing the bipartisan spending plan. house speaker john boehner and congressman ryan directly addressed that opposition yesterday. >> most major conservative groups have statement blasting this deal. >> you mean the groups that came out opposing it before they ever
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saw it? they are using our members and the american people for their own goals. this is ridiculous. listen, if you're for more deficit reduction you're for this agreement. >> did you ever think that a piece of legislation that you were responsible for would be called not conservative enough? >> yeah. it's a strange new normal, isn't it. groups are going to do what they want to do. what matters to me am i doing what i think is right, am i sticking to my principles, am i listening to my colleagues who have the voting card. >> has speaker boehner ever done that before. he's fed up calling out others. designee hasn't lashed out against some of these very powerful groups. >> it's the way a lot of us have wanted to see him react to a lot of things and there's just something odd of it coming so late. there's been plenty of provocation for him to react to that. >> do you think he feels he has cover from the "wall street
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journal," the koch brothers last time who were really upset by the shutdown strategy and a lot of other business, the chamber. >> yeah. he's worked this very carefully over the years of being subservient to these groups. now he can say you've gone too far. what they are trying to do here is governing as usual. a small conservative. i don't mean policy conservative but behaviorally, a conservative step in a direction of adjusting sequester spending levels. that's what they are trying to do. and because there's been so much talk of grand bargain all the time, there's a lot of people saying this isn't big enough. well governing normally is not big. governing is moving normally this much in this direction. >> yesterday it was not the budget but what boehner did. >> i agree. >> this is the left turn not literally left for the republican party where now it's okay. we can snap back at the
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heritages. we do not have to be slaves to the extremist of this party. this is the pivot point. you saw at any time first time with the speaker. it will be, i think, actually a lesson, a pointer for how republicans will behave in 2014. >> i'm sure a lot of republicans love hearing from you donny deutsch on this that this is a good step forward which now -- >> i get paid a lot of money to tell them that. >> melody, so on the other side, democrats, progressives have to be very upset that they are not getting an extension of unemployment benefits. and, obviously, several other things. >> right. i mean you all were talking about it earlier this morning. there's definitely a lot of consternation about that. and what effect that will have on people in trying to live and move through their day-to-day lives as we pull out of this recession and the economy starts to recover.
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but i think the president and others have sent the signal that it is important that this compromise have taken place. the fact that we're now moving closer to something that looks like regular order is very, very important. and hopefully we can build interest. they will don't have these conversations. but also look for other ways that we can try to help the american people that have been out of work, those who are trying to make ends meet and focus on issues like workforce training, workforce development and other initiatives that will help people recover. >> i won't say paul ryan is bullet proof amongst conservatives. he's led all these charges for budgets. so i think he feels confident that he can walk into this. he was self-confident enough to do a deal with patty murray and say look guys you real want to question my conservative credentials so he can take this
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heat. >> you better not feel confident he can run for president as a republican in republican primaries against these other guys. what you're seeing here is major indicator number one that paul ryan has no intention of running for president next time because there's a republican presidential candidate position on this and paul ryan doesn't have it. >> so are you saying complete sub certificate subservience heritage and the like. >> maybe. >> senator hatch also made similar statements to those that the speaker made. so we're starting to see, i think, a few more people starting to push back on some of the groups that they think are holding their party hostage and preventing people from reaching compromise and moving forward. >> there's just such bad blood between the leadership and some
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of these groups. some of these groups -- >> why? what has he not done for them. >> i'll explain. again, i know some of these people in these groups and these people are good friends of mine. i under. they feel like our job is -- my job is to point towards the north store. i'm not a legislator. i say this is the conservative ideal and this is where you guys should aspire to go. there are some deals he's made in the past, boehner has made in the past with these groups. like on food stamps. and made a tough decision. pushed that through and then they ended up being against the farm bill anyway. john boehner decided i tried working with them and they still end up undercutting me at the end so i might as well be strong. bill clinton said it. bill clinton always said better to be strong and wrong and i think john boehner, i think he
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may be learning that. >> these groups used to, anyway, have varying degrees of opposition, technical opposition, they put out a statement saying yeah we're opposed to this and not try to destroy the political careers of anyone that supported it. if you look at the way labor handled trade agreements under president bill clinton, world trade agreement, nafta, they were opposed to these things but if do you this, bill clinton, we're going to go out there -- >> there's such a danger. this is such high stakes poker on these groups' part. because it reminds me. i actually had newt gingrich, the nra, a lot of groups working against me around the clock, lying about me, sending out mailers back in 1994 when i first ran because they thought i was too conservative for the district. what happened when they lost. i went up to washington.
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there was a reason i could go after newt any time. >> you know how it works with most people. when they survive that they go up to washington and then they never mess with those people again. >> i actually called the nra guy over. i said let me tell you something, i can't use the language. >> go ahead. >> you did something to me, and you know what? i don't need your money or support. i need nothing from you. you guys were disgusting. you lied about me. i'm going to swroet you probably 100% of the time but has nothing to do with you. we ended up having a great relationship. >> voting 100% of the time will do that. >> i did vote with them 100% of the time. will you sign on to this bill or that bill. same thing with newt. this is the point. you threaten, all it takes you threatening the political depth of that one member and that one member survives. if you score like everything vote like this or we're coming
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after you. you beat them one time they crumble. these groups need to be a little more subtle. >> up beat them that one time, you think you're lucky and you never ever mess with them again. that's the kind of political courage that i have watched. >> you western around my place. beat them one time you own them. >> all right. >> no? am i wrong? >> that's the way i would like to play it. >> play it. they don't screw with you. >> the nbc/wall street journal poll gives us a glimpse at the political impact of obama care and how it may affect the 2014 mid-terms. obama care was seen as the number one issue shaping public opinion of the president as the president's disapproval reached all time highs. now more americans want republicans not democrats to take control of congress in 2014. and obama care is already taking center stage in many races. democratic senator mary landrieu up for re-election in the red state of louisiana, where
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president obama just got 40% of the vote. got just 40% of the vote. here are two ads running now in louisiana. one by the national republican senatorial committee and the other by senator landrieu's campaign. take a look. >> there's danger lurking out there. many have warned that it's coming. and now it's on the hunt and headed for you. at least 80,000 people statewide will not be able to keep their current insurance because of the federal health care overhaul. louisianans are struggling because of obama care. but for some reason mary landrieu is running on obama care. and shereenly told reporters quote, i'm not concerned about anything. course she cast the deciding vote for obama care in the first place. it's the brave new world of government incompetence and we're going to live in. >> i'm mary landrieu and i approve this message. hundreds of thousands of people across the country losing their current coverage.
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but identify said to the president you told them they could keep it. >> landrieu introduced keeping the affordable care act promise. >> i'm fixing it and that's what my bill does. senator landrieu says president obama needs to stick to his word. this is a promise you made. this is a promise you should keep. >> melody, first of all, respond to mary's ad, which is, takes aim at the president then secondly, this poll that 58% of americans are focused on the health care law and shaping the view of president obama. that has to be so hard for people like you and others inside the white house that fought for this law because you believed it would help americans to believe that it's turning to this big of an issue. >> well, to be honest, at this point given the roll out none of this is surprising, not the numbers, not either of those ads. for those of us that did work on
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this, that did fight for this, we see the fact that the affordable care act is helping a number of people. the roll out is not anybody wanted or expected, but we're starting to see things build from there and build in a positive direction. but i think for anyone who is running for office, you would expect people to come after you and attack you on this and republicans have made clear that that's going to be the strategy going forward. and i think for someone like mary landrieu who believes that we have to address our health care system, who believes that the current system was not workable for anyone, both as an economic matter and as a health security matter, but at the same time we have to address the flaws that occurred that she's walking that fine line, that she's trying to balance her support for the affordable care act that she has to address the attack she will get and the problems that occurred at the time of the roll out. this isn't surprising.
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what we have to look at is what's going to happen over the course of the next year or so as we make our way to the election, as things start to improve, continue to improve with the affordable care act. what issues are next on the table for the american people given the attention span. so, i think that's going to be what happens next. >> all right. let's go to chuck todd. chuck, so mary landrieu is running ads against barack obama right now in louisiana. we'll see this in north carolina with kay haggen and prior race in arkansas? >> you've seen these ad exchanges. you know, joe, can we go back to those ads in a minute. i have to say. this is december of the odd year, right, where december 2013. they have the feel of an october 2014 ad because they don't seem to -- they almost seem to be over, particularly the attack ad on landrieu seems over the top
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and more over the top you are you just speaking to the base or speaking to swing voters. then on landrieu's ad i actually think she sort of, if you're going to go decide to have that tough conversation and you're trying to fix a political problem, then do it camera to camera. don't use press clips. it's interesting. look, i understand the tactics and we'll see this a lot but i thought that the ads themselves, either one of them were very good or potentially very effective for what they were trying to do. right? you would think in nine months in advance something like this where you actually have -- you're not fighting for attention on the air waves, you would have a more captive audience who would listen to you, both ads didn't seem to effectively i think talk to a swing voter right now who is casually starting to tune in. >> they are almost like cartoon like. >> you know what the president and harry reid want mary
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landrieu to do, do whatever you want to get re-elected. say whatever you want about the president. the president knows the alternative is a republican louisiana senator who votes against every single judicial nomination on anything that the president is in favor of. >> chuck, thank so you much. we'll see you on the daily run down coming up at 9:00 eastern. lauren before you go, tell us about the project you're work on. you told us about it. >> kids in need of desks. this sunday i was down in alabama at the 6th avenue baptist church in birmingham where joe the cub scouts, the 14 cub scouts at that church raised $18,000. they were doing new projects every single month. it's the biggest donation ever given by a group to the fund. but, you know, joe, the biggest
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single donation came from being on this show which is why i want to be on this show. i think you can guess who it's from. miles. the first time i talked about it on this show. before i left the set he was on the phone. he's been heroic. but these kids did an amazing year's work. >> well let's keep it going. lawrence thanks so much. we'll be watching the last word. joe will you stay up late. >> he has a rocky reunion. >> he books the show. >> melody barnes stay with us if you can. coming up congressman paul ryan says the bipartisan spending plan is a step in the right direction. his colleagues on the senate side aren't quite as convinced. the house budget chairman joins us next. this is the quicksilver cash back card from capital one. it's not the "limit the cash i earn every month" card. it's not the "i only earn decent rewards at the gas station" card.
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republican paul ryan and democrat patty murray announced
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they reached a deal tuesday after two months of negotiations. >> oh, my god these two members of congress who did the dealing are literally visual analogs for how the two sides cannot see eye to eye. [ laughter ] they are a life-size bar graph of the fiscal distance between the parties. [ laughter ] and -- and quite frankly -- [ applause ] if i may be so bold the two of them look like all my prom pictures in reverse. >> joining us now from capitol hill, the chairman of the house budget committee and one of the architect of the ryan-murray budget plan congressman paul ryan. good to have you on the show. >> a lot going on. you have said that this budget deal advances our principles. marco rubio said this, though last night. quote, your deal is going make it harder for americans to
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achieve the american dream. what would you say to marco? >> read the deal and get back to me. look, that's just -- i think that's -- people are going to do what they need to do. in the minority you don't have the burden of governing, of getting things done. look, joe, you're a republican. here's what this does. it reduces the deficit without raising taxes. we prevent the military from getting deeply cut again. and we prevent two government shutdowns from occurring this year. i think that's in the interest of our country. that advance our principles. patty and i decided if we require the other person to compromise a core principle we'll get nothing done so look for common ground. that's what we're doing. we found common ground. it's a modest agreement. in this day and age with this broken, dysfunctional government it's a step tip right direction. >> can you convince members of the house republican caucus you
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can bust the caps by 63 billion and are you assuring them that that 63 billion will be made up. we both know, we've always been deeply skeptical when you say we'll spend more money in the first two years, three years but don't worry we'll make it up eight, nine, ten years away. >> 92% of the sequester is left intact. during the course of this agreement a year and a half fiscal year wise we got the democrats who are against any of the sequester to agree to 70% of the sequester and that 30% of relief we're providing, $63 billion we're paying for $85 billion of mandatory savings. that's the auto pilot spending that's going on and these are permanent law changes that we're effecting which gives us real savings that compound in the out years. the other thing is we're stopping these government shutdowns and we don't think having two government shutdowns over the course of the next year
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is in anybody's interest. we would like to focus our oversight on obama care, rolling out a positive agenda and not having these shutdowns and another point, joe, is two years ago the budget paced the republican budget that everybody thought was too conservative fought for a trillion 19 billion in top line spending. in this agreement we won't hit that level until the year 2017. we're ahead of schedule and saying cut more than you spend. >> we have 87 people "around the table" and they all want to get questions in. does it tick you off when people who haven't read the budget say it will destroy the american dream? >> i thought it was a little strange because the press releases came flying out against the agreement before patty and i reached an agreement. so, you know, it is what it is. this is washington. i would prefer that people would actually read what we're doing and see the details before forming conclusions. identify been around for a while. it doesn't surprise me. >> i'm curious on a different
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angle because the criticism that marco rubio put forward as well as some other top senate republicans, your answer to joe's question was people are going to do what they have to do. what do you mean by that? >> well, i just say if you're in the minority you don't have to pass things. you don't have to govern. we're in the majority here in the house. we're one-third of so-called power structure here in washington. and we think it would be a bad idea to have two government shutdown scenarios in 2014. we think it would take us off of focusing off of obama care forks cussing on oversight, rolling out a positive agenda to grow the economy and grow jobs. more to the point, you're not going to get everything you want in divided government. our budget is what we want. our budget pays off our debt and does so within a decade and that's what we want. this isn't our budget. this is a modest step in the right direction that says more deficit reduction, less military
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cuts, and no tax increases. that to me advances our principles. here's the other point. remember the super committee. the super committee was supposed to replace the sequester with cuts in mandatory spending. this replaces a small portion of the massacre and the super committee it was supposed to be dollar for dollar. we're exceeding that. we're saving more money for a net deficit reduction. so we're surpassing the goal of the super committee. >> congressman ryan, congratulations. i made a point earlier as i often do, i advise republicans across this country, speaker boehner barking back at the heritage groups of the world for the first time ever. is this a harbinger of things to come that there's a new playbook for republicans in 2014 that run for office that you don't have to bow to these groups? >> look, i don't think about that stuff, honestly. i'm focused on doing my job,
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representing my constituents and doing what i think is right and ad haven'ting my principles. there's this older british guy who often said you can't always get what you want but if you try sometimes you might find you get what you need. >> churchill. >> yes. chur churchill or jagger. >> you said this is a good first step. do you believe a grand bargain is still out there somewhere and if so what makes you believe that. we've been watching this fight go on for decades and again regulates or raising revenue on one side and making entitlement cuts on the other. is there hope in there? do you see something different now than you've seen in the past? >> no, i don't see any difference in the likelihood of a grand bargain, but i do like the idea that we're learning how to talk to each other. we're learning how to get things done. my hope is we can do tax reform next year.
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i fought for means testing in medicare. i fought for raising the age limit on future retirees. that was completely rejected. those things i think make a big difference on our entitlement trajectory. i just don't see that kind of thing happening. but i would like to think it's a step in the right direction which maybe we can work on tax reform. maybe there are some other things we can get done. the fed will start tapering. i want to get a foundation underneath this economy, get people back to work and getting this divided government working at a minimal level. that's what i mean. >> congressman, talking about getting people back to work, extension of unemployment benefits is not part of this deal. they run out december 28th. what are the prospects for doing something about that problem before the 28th. where are you. would you vote for or against the extension? >> they want to put this in this agreement without any offsets which would have blown a $20 to
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$25 million dollar hole. it was a last minute request with no offsets. we didn't see that seriously. the speaker will entertain a proposal from the president that pays for it and has offsets. that it grows the economy and gets people in jobs work. we haven't seen a proposal coming. >> paul, one other issue. yesterday in the "wall street journal," nbc/wall street journal poll, large number of americans in support of raising the minimum wage to $10 per hour. including, i think a majority of self-identified tea party members. you're from a swing districts in wisconsin, a district that democrats win in presidential races as much as republicans. what's your take on that issue, and what are you hearing back at home? >> it may be good politic, may look good on a bumper sticker, it's bad economics.
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it's the wrong way to go economically. we should be focused on the kind of reforms that grow jobs and put people back to work. having a competitive tax code. letting this energy boom take off. getting our spending more under control so we don't have an interest rate problem. those are -- there's no substitute, joe, for pro growth policies that actually get people back network and grow the economy. these things are very poor substitutes and counter productive. >> congressman paul ryan thank you. good to see you. coming up -- >> paul, do us a favor, please, no, seriously. stop crushing the american dream for kids, okay. >> sad. it's christmas time. it smells like it's going to crush -- i'm just guessing. i don't know. all right, paul. good to see you. >> i'm going to keep my mouth shut. >> coming up a new survey on
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a new report by the pew research center says women age 25 to 34 are more driven than their male counterparts. i agree with that. and that's helping. >> call of duty, seriously. >> that's helping to close the long standing pay gap between genders. last year female millennials earned 93 cents for every dollar earned by men. women of all ages averaged 84 cents to every dollar earned by their male co-workers. the survey reported to the increasing number of women attending college to help narrow the divide. >> has a long twi go. but you've been talking about this for such a long time. up said on the tour that millennials didn't stand back and wait their turn. >> very aggressive. >> as women they were more
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aggressive. >> they got the message. >> we've been pushing the other direction. >> you have been not me. >> melody, before you go, tell us -- >> his wife works in the house. mine does baseball games. >> melody, tell us about the initiative you'll be co-chairing with jpmorgan chase. >> absolutely. i've been working on these issues for quite some time. we know in talking to ceos across the country and presidents of community colleges and nonprofits one of the biggest problems we have is people right now are not getting the skills they need for jobs available. unemployment is higher than it needs to be. one of the biggest challenges is making sure the private sector is coming to the table. so today we're announcing an initiative, jpmorgan chase is announcing an initiative, they are putting $250 million over five years to sponsor and
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supporting best in class nonprofits that are doing this training, bringing to the table educators and nonprofits and private-sector to talk about the skills that are needed and also making sure the right data is out there. >> that's amazing. melody, thank you so much. that's wonderful. coming up making things happen. if we book flights and hotels on light why not book experiences too. that's the idea behind an innovative new website and it's co-founder joins us next on "morning joe." wow. [ male announcer ] at his current pace,
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>> fast company's one of the most creative people in business. >> she's been to 40 plus countries. >> fulbright scholar. >> so, tell us about this. we're going to exclude donny in this segment because nothing good comes out of talking to him. doesn't make eye contact. stay over here. so you talked about experiences. that's what your website is about. explain how people can share experiences and -- go. >> peak.com is a one stop shop for travellers and locals for vies. if you want to go swimming with sharks or perhaps a spot of wine tasting in napa, mika, you can go to the site and discover great things to do and then book them online. >> the difference between any other travel company or is you're selling it from a
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different angle. what made you think of this? >> i went to istanbul and ended up spending about 20 hours planning a trip and all based on this stuff i was going to do. i found i want frustrating that figuring out what to do meant i had to read guide books, ask friends. really do a ton of digging. average person goes to about 22 websites when planning a trip. >> instead go to peek.com. >> i just did new york. you got a pizza tour of new york, the met. this is very important for you donny. bar and cocktail limo tours. >> chocolate and wine. and i don't have mike to take me around. i want to know a bar that has the most beautiful women. that's what i want to experience. >> that's not what she sells. >> there are some other sites that's involved in that but that's not peek.com. >> you go to craigslist.
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let me ask you about the origins. what dew point to do in istanbul before you decided, you know, to hone it down and come up with this idea. what did you end up doing in istanbul. >> really what we're doing is making it easier to find the things you might want to do. instead of having you go through a lot of different sources and discover things some things you already know -- okay there are a couple of sites you want to see. and it's great to find things you didn't realize. now the process of doing that typically takes several hours of research. what we did with peek site we did everything with themes. what to do with kids or adventurous. we combined all the activities that are there with a diverse spectrum and help you fine them and easily book them. >> so, mika, you got a question. while you're asking the question i want to show everybody the sipt because it's so user friendly.
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actually i'm dead serious. i'm going to use this site. you ask a question and we're going let's go paris. we'll see how this works. >> the site and "your business" overall has some very high-profile backers the. what did you just do? >> the cord went out. i'm sorry. >> i have something tell you about. >> nice promotion. i got a glitch. it's working. >> today we launched the peek tours and activity app. one of the big thing i got from users they wanted to book activities on the going real-time. now can you go the app store, download the app and then you can look at things to buy with your mobile. >> this is nbc thing. don't worry. it keeps happening to joe. >> but the great thing sue
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up to play 60 program that encourages kids to improve their nutrition and increase physical activity. joining us is the ceo of gen youth. a member of the sport of director, seriously, you two, stop it right now. i can't get over it. alexis, this issue has been so important to you for quite sometime and it seems like we lot of track as a country. there used to be when we were kids, the presidential seal and the patch you get when we were working out and it's not the case for a lot of kids. are. >> we have a crisis in physical inactivity because the recess and gym we were used to is old and obsolete. we can show the kissed are starting their day with a healthy breakfast.
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we are excited that we need a renewed commitment to be in schools. we are in 73,000 schools reaching 38 million kids a day. on monday we have a huge announcement in chicago with three of the government agencies with the defendant of education hhs and the foundation and america's dairy farmers to be in school for another five years. >> that is so great. this is getting in there and changing the whole concept of how you live your life. for these kids, you can change their future. >> absolutely. i think the critical thing here is empowering the students. it is people like this who you get -- who does not want to be like skyler. >> i want to be like skyler. >> if you look at her twitter handle, i say to her, she is
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rushing off to class in the morning and then to practice. you have to practice what you preach. >> it's important giving 89 message out for nutrition. you see programs and focus on one or the other and this focuses on both. you will get out what you put in. in the morning it's important to have a good breakfast like it's important to put gas in the tank before you hit a nice work out. >> technology is obviously -- working in the right direction, we have kids who can sit in front of tablets for four hours before we go outside. congratulations. >> you forget how fun it is to be fit and moving all the time and the feeling you get when you exercise every day. a lot of kids sit in front of computers. >> and video games too. >> it's important to get the message out that working out and being active can be fun.
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eating healthy can be fun. you can dress up the meals and eat healthy and still eat what you want. >> we are so excited about empowering the students to be the change. what we have been able to figure out is how to put the child at the center of the conversation. we are empowering them and giving the schools the resources and the tools they need. anywhere from 1,000 to $4,000. the first thing that is getting cut is access to nutrition and physical activity. you and i have talked about this. we know there is a direct correlation between nutrition and physical activity and academic performance. >> bottom line, do you love your job? >> i love doing wonderful things for kids. >> skyler dig ins, thank you so much. >> you know what the wnba is? >> yes, i do.
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tell us what he seem to be signing if anything at all. >> hello. welcome so far. cigarettes join. bringing in different to you. a circle. and i would like to pray this offering. basically this is fun. all of these falls to prove -- this is good. i'm sorry. >> so in your opinion, does this guy know sign language at all? >> no, not at all. >> good morning. it's 8:00 on the east coast and 5:00 on the west coast. we take a live look at new york city. >> it's beautiful. >> you feel it in the air. >> back with us on set, mike barnacle, donny, and in
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washington, dell kelly o'donnell. new information on the sign language. i have a sign for you actually. >> what's that? >> you will get it. >> oh, that sign. you give me that sign all the time. >> that sign language interpreter accused of signing gibberish during nelson mandela's memorial. the man said he was suffering for a schizophrenic episode while on stage. there was a global uproar on tuesday from the deaf community over his gestures said boy many to be utterly meaningless. >> on nbc news, whenever there is a controversy about signing in sign language interpreters, they always go to you. >> i don't get as much work as i would like to. >> this is your moment. you were born for times such as these. does this guy know how to do it?
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has he done it before? do we know this? >> he may have done it before correctly or many times before correctly, but in this case he had a schizophrenic episode he said and he was signing complete gibberish. >> the man told the south african newspaper he takes medication for his illness and he started hearing voices and hallucinating and saw angels in the stadium and was trying not to panic. stop. with armed policemen arm him. he said i was alone in a dangerous situation. i tried to control myself and not show the world what was going on. i'm sorry. it's the situation i found myself in. i think he could have walked off. >> how did a guy like that clear security? how does that happen? >> if you are having a schizophrenic attack two inches
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from every world leader -- >> a lot of people say it's a fraud and he shamed a moment us event. they used their own interpreter and noticed a difference between the two during the speech of one of mandela's grandchildren. that's different. the man signed for other high profile events in the past including president jacob zuma and said he was hired through an interpretation company. the government continues to investigate. >> i think he is making this stuff up. he's just going with it. >> mike made the point, he is an arm's length away from president obama. and other world leaders. that ain't funny. >> that is -- oh, my gosh. >> it's bizarre. >> totally bizarre. okay. can we go to washington? that's interesting enough. >> i would rather just stay here.
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>> no, you are in so much trouble. okay. >> what happened? >> i want you to handle this next story really well. >> am i in trouble? >> you can't leave that. what do you mean? >> which one was yesterday? >> okay, in washington house lawmakers -- >> whoa, whoa, whoa. come on. you have viewers getting up early to listen and you say something like that and -- >> you know how many people tweeted me? telling me to hit you. i have done that. >> how was it? >> you need to take a chill pill and hold on to the refrigerator. >> this is unfair.
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>> in washington, house lawmakers are expected to vote and why don't you just walk off stage. >> hold on to the blender. >> as the old saying goes. >> what? >> calm down and stop interrupting and pull it together. >> i have been calm. do yourself a favor. >> i will do this. you sit tight. the ryan murray budget is what we are talking about. it's hopefully being set up for -- i cannot believe you. you are going to -- now you are in trouble. no, no. put the hands down and keep them on your lap. >> this proposal appears to have enough bipartisan support. paul ryan winning over skeptical republicans in a closed door meeting. that doesn't mean there not descending voices.
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>> a source close to the leader, mitch mcconnell said he plans to vote against the bill. the republicanins are putting t pass at risk. it pits congressman ryan against senators rand paul, marco rubio and ted cruz who came out against the bill. they are rumored to be interested in seeking the republican nomination for president in 2016. there also a number of outside conservative groups who are opposing the spending plan. speaker john boehner and congressman ryan directly addressed that opposition yesterday. take a listen. >> both major conservative groups are blasting this deal. >> you mean the groups that opposed it before they saw it. >> those groups. are you worried? >> they are using our members and the american people for their own goals. this is ridiculous. if you are for more deficit
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reduction, you are for this agreement. >> did you think the piece of legislation that you were responsible for would be called not conservative enough? >> it's a strange new normal, isn't it? groups are going to do what they want to do. my doing what i think is right and sticking to my principals and am i listening to my colleagues. >> is something happening with the republican party? no? >> paul is getting a pass. i hate this deal. a lot of conservatives hate this deal. if you are going to pay for extra spending, don't tell us you will pay ten years from now. that's a lie. years ago. if you talk about any budget deal thaw don't touch entitlements and you play small ball with 12% of the budget, it's a terrible deal. it avoids the government shut down. it's a terrible deal for
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conservatives and i understand why they don't like it, but i think it's going to pass and paul ryan is getting the pass on this. they know he had to strike a deal. >> it's now at curb level in terms of negotiation. people are walking around saying they spoke to one another and cut a deal. doesn't it also outline the fact that if patty murray and paul ryan are speaking and it outlines the fact that deals in congress, you can get them done if you talk to one another. >> exactly. >> that's the start. >> he's pretty significant that they have at least hammered out a deal. the conservatives like me hate it. >> i go to kelly who has been covering this. paul ryan said he knows this is not the grand bargain and the big deal that anybody wants. it's a first step of almost good
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faith to show that democrats and republicans can work together. i guess the larger question is, is that bargain out there and will it ever be out there where the one size is raised and the cut is made to entitlement programs. up until now, there was not a lot of hope for that. >> there has been so much talk about that practical reality of that happening any time soon seems remote. what i think is interesting about this, if we went back to the government shut down and there was conservatives who wanted a repeal or full out delay of the health care law and then after the shut down and all the criticism, people said that was an una chiefabrunachievable. probably an unachievable goal.
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i think everybody says it's pretty small ball, but it's, wooing on a narrow area where there is common ground and it takes some of the heat off. you watched the function and we talked about it. here's a chance to put some of that on the shelf for a while and give a two-year window assuming this passes to work for the bigger things. it is an accomplishment in smaller than lower case. >> mike. >> kelly, what are the prospects for unemployment benefits. that was not part of this deal. it's a huge priority for mill n millions of people and christmas and the holiday season. what are the prospects for getting that passed? >> it doesn't appear very good right now because of the cal endar and how many other things are on congress's plate. they have to get through this with the budget. there is the farm bill and the
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implications of that and what would happen to milk price fist it doesn't pass. conversations are going on between speaker boehner's office and the democrats to look for ways to address the issue of how you extend benefits for the people out of work the longest. where do you find the money for that? do you tack it on to the deficit. republicans won't support that and do you find cuts somewhere else. in the murray ryan conversations, they anyhow there was interest in trying to resolve that issue. that was one of the things that could have put the potential for this small deal in jeopardy yet again. they kept that to the idea looking for another way to do it. the benefits run out december 28th. given the fact that the house is intent on leaving town. the senate is working all night. they have been working through the night voting on nominations. it doesn't look particularly
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good. that doesn't mean they can't address it in january and try to do something. that's one of the magical powers congress has and they will dress it when the pain becomes vivid. >> i want to show you the ads on the nbc "wall street journal" poll that gives us a glimpse of the impact of obama care and how it may impact the mid-terms. obama care was seen as the number one issue shaping public opinion of the president as the president's disapproval reached all time highs. >> we are showing these. 58% is absolutely stunning. that's nationwide. you start focusing on states like north carolina where kay hagen is running for reelection and arkansas, another democrat in danger of running in a very red state. the state we are talking about this morning in louisiana, another very red state, you know that 58% is probably much higher. that is causing democrats that are trying to get reelected big problems.
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>> at this moment. >> mary land rue is up for reelection in the red state of louisiana where president obama got just 40% of the vote. here are two ads running, one by the national senatorial committee and the other by senator landrieu's campaign. take a lock. >> there is danger lurking out there. many warned it's coming and now it's on the hunt anded hadded for you. >> at least 80,000 people statewide will not be able to keep their insurance because of the federal health care overhaul. >> louisiana is struggling because of health care. mary landrieu is running out of health care. she told reporters i'm not concerned about anything. she cast the deciding vote for obama care in the first place. it's the brave new world of government incompetence that we are going it live in. >> i'm mary landrieu and i
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approved this message. >> hundreds of thousands of people losing current coverage. part the administration is under pressure. >> i said you told them they could keep it. >> landrieu introduced the keeping the affordable care act promise. >> i am fixing it and i urged the president to fix it. >> she said president obama needs to stick to husband word. >> this was a promise you made and you should keep. >> wow. throwing the president under the bus. >> if the elections were in january, it's clear what would happen here. >> what would happen? >>. >> the democrats would get knocked off. the numbers speak for themselves. close to 60%. the reality is we have to look at the numbers. we have 265,000 people signing up last month. come june, we are still in a place that the people are losing policies is outweighing the people signing up, it's a lose. as soon as the numbers turn, the
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world changes. it's hard to say what's going to happen 11 months from now. >> i think it's a turn. >> i think this is going to be an issue no matter what. you have a new set of issues in march and a new set of issues in the summer. >> with obama care? can the republicans get in the way of the website working? if they can't, we will be okay. >> let's not just do a shotgun blast of all these things. we don't know what's going to happen. the chances are good if you stir up the market the way it's being stirred up, there going to be winners and losers and the problem is the president didn't tell the truth and mary landrieu has thrown him under the bus. that will be an issue in 2014 no matter what happens between now and 2014. let's do what we are asking to do and look at the ads and let's say the election is in january.
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judge those two ads. >> they are great. they are nasty and right in your face and to literally create a metaphor, an alligator. i'm coming for you. more government. eating at you. it's a classic, nasty -- >> what about the mary landrieu ad? is that a good response? >> yeah. >> she goes after the president. does that work when you go after a president in your own party? >> that's all you have to do. that's the issue. it is what it is. i believe the issue is not going to go away. it's 11 months away in number. if the numbers do turn, once again the dotted line, obama care needing more government and forget the legislation itself. >> i don't agree. >> that's a shock. >> i would like to say why.
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so i don't agree because i think that if they can get a lot of people signed up and continue on the trajectory of getting to their goal, that's also more people getting health insurance that couldn't get it ever before. i'm not done. if there is more good news on the jobs front and we get six as the first number, things can turn around. >> i want to go back to the health care numbers. two touchdowns. you can see it both ways. unless it is such a clear decisive turn as far as legislation working, selling against it is a much easier sell. you have numbers to justify. >> coming up on "morning joe," we will go to mike allen and frightening new video of july's deadly plane crash in san francisco. what the pilot is saying about his confusion with the jet's auto pilot systems.
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first bill has a check on the forecast. >> that are video is crazy. good morning to you. everyone wants to warm it up. they had enough of this arctic outbreak. they are down through the southeast. now there is the deal with the snow event. some areas warm up and some don't. the coldest spot out there is chicago to grown bay all the way to northern portions of minnesota. negative wind chills and brutal type stuff. no bad weather. not a lot of rain or snow. coming up into new mexico with rainfall. that's the beginning of the next storm that will bring us our snowstorm. friday night in missouri. saturday across the map here. snow likely. illinois and northern ohio and pennsylvania and new york state and new england. icy to the south and plain old rain here in areas of the deep south. if you are traveling, almost all the airports should be free of weather delays. miami looking nice on the map. 82 and partly cloudy skies.
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>> time to take a look at the morning papers. "new york times," the political troubles in ukraine are spilling over to nearby georgia where lawmakers came to blows on the
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order of parliament. one lawmaker supported the protesters and others did not agree. he stood up and kicked him in the leg, leading to an all out brawl. meanwhile in ukraine, riot police stormed the protester camp on tuesday. among the demonstrators there at the time heavy weight boxing champion and opposition leader. >> the "wall street journal," the u.s. is freezing eight opposition forces and a group linked to al qaeda held u.s. military equipment. not good news. they are forcing a top commander out of the country. the white house is struggling to determine who represents our allies on the ground. >> from the parade of papers, the "san francisco chronicle," more details are e americaning about the plane crash in san francisco that killed three people. they left dozens injured.
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newly released footage shows on flight 214 crashing into a sea wall in july. a report said a pilot on his final training check for the boeing 777 said he was unfamiliar with the plane's auto pilot systems. experts say automation addictionists, pilots relying too heavily on computers to operate the plane may be the issue. they did not find any mechanical problems with the jet. >> chicago times. hilton worldwide raises more than $20 billion, pricing shares at $20. this marks the largest filing for a hotel in history. hilton went private before the financial crisis and began trading later today. >> l.a. times, 16 teens are facing charges in california after allegedly looting and trashing a mansion during a house party.
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l.a. police say the stolen goods and damaged the home was a total of $1 million. some stolen items were designer suits, armor and scuba gear and a mounted snow leopard worth $250,000. some said they were caught after posting selfies with the stolen items through social media sites. >> you just can't do that. >> you don't run a house for your teen kids. it's dangerous. they have the teen brain. >> doing a selfie. mike allen and oddly with the snow leopard. and lady gaga concert. they are still talking about it. >> look at areas now. mike allen is the chief correspondent of politico. good morning. >> you guys have a big piece and it's a ben white maggie joint
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called the lament of the pluto krats and fed up with washington. not just president obama or republicans for the way they conducted themselves, but had general. they are done with washington. what does it mean and the implications of it. >> wall street feels besieged and the democratic party running towards posing incoming focus on inequality and posing high ceo pay. fascinating development in the story. hillary clinton looking ahead to 2016. a constituentsy that can be helpful to her. recently did a paid speech for goldman sachs. her message for them, the time when they fell back on their heels was soothing. their message was we got into this mess and we will get out of it together. it's counterproductive to bash banks the way washington has been doing. this of course is what they are
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excited to see. this is very helpful constituents tow her, but it runs counter to what's going on in the party. that's the attention for hillary clinton. >> as we look at 2016, hillary could be a part of that. another guy could be chris christie of new jersey. there is color about wall street trying to lure him into the 2012 presidential race among the biggest big wigs. what do they like about chris christie going forward? >> these guys love him. these are going to try again. they like the fact that he is not seen as ideological. he is from the area and their kind of republican. did fantastically when he met with the groups of people. they had to court him and urge him to run. the fact that he was tough to get last time makes him more alluring this time. in a group that would
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traditionally be democratic, fire for chris christie is just as hot as ever. >> it was a great scene where maggie and ben write about a dark room somewhere at a fancy club, david coke was on a conference call trying to get chris christie in. henry kissinger face-to-face. what you take out is both hillary and chris christie. it could be an interesting race in 2016. >> they did and they went a step further. if you get in, we will get you the money. that's one of the rarest promises. >> politico's mike allen. martha stewart has written more than 80 books. we love when martha is here. we will talk to her next.
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>> in the olden days when it didn't have feet, we would invert this on to a bottle like this and let it cool. isn't that great? don't fall.
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now this should release. it does. isn't that beautiful? release the cake right on to the center. really pretty. >> here with us now, founder of martha stewart living. she is out with her new book, martha stewart cake. bunts, layers and coffee cakes. >> that's the 82nd copy. >> 82nd. >> your healthy living one that came out last year, incredible. my parents have it in their home. not to sell the wrong book, but everyone should have that. encyclopedia of health in their home. >> good. >> do you love cake? >> but all celebrations need cake, i think. why not make one of the 150 delicious recipes in here.
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they are all beautiful and tasty and not so difficult. >> not so difficult. >> i like this lemon cake. >> that's my favorite. >> you say they are easy, martha. can mike barnacle do it? >> of course. he's a good baker i bet. >> he did a lot of baking. >> only on saturdays. >> these look really good. in moderation, but i love angel food cake. >> for christmas. you will have people dropping in and why not make a good pound cake or a nice coffee cake. the strusle cake is delicious. i wish i brought you a cake. >> we can fix that. >> this is one of the great brands in the country. i can't tell you how many young people over the last 20 years i met are going to be the next martha stewart.
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there has been nobody in this country or world. it's a macing how nobody has been able to in any way, shape, or form take any of your magic. >> a lot of the young people don't realize how much education it takes and how much learning it takes to do all the things that we do. it's learning every single day. that's one of my mot owes. learn something new every day or more than one thing every day. i try that. i am continuing to learn. you can't be a good teacher or mentor unless you are a good learner. things are changing so rapidly. where do you get your recipes and access your information? i try to keep up with that very, very carefully and using all the social media and the follows available to us. they don't -- i guess they don't realize, you can be a great cook and a great baker and a great
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decorator, but to put it together is harder. >> you have to be a business woman too. >> yeah. >> let me ask you about women in business. over the course of your career, people have called you tough. not in a good -- now we look at numbers that have come out for millennials. they are making more money and considered aggressive and it's considered a good thing. do you see that happening as well for women? >> i think so. you have to. it's not about being tough as much as effective to what you are trying to do. running a company is hard. making sure that that company is effective and creating great product, general motors has the first ceo. i am so thrilled. maybe that woman ceo will do the things i have been asking for for years. >> make a car that women like to
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drive too. >> roomier inside and not so big outside. >> exactly. >> we are all staring going oh, my god. it's the end of the cards. >> it is not. >> i'm dreaming it up. >> throw something at him. >> that's what you need the cup holders for. there practical things not in the cards. it's hard to get in the back seat of some cars because the distance between the door frame and the seat, the edge of the seat is so small. >> you are talking about what should be added to the pie of every business. >> it's not that there not women engineers. i'm sure they have women engineers. >> what you said is so true in terms of the word tough as it is applied to women and men in business. someone said jamie, he's a tough
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guy. that's admirable. if someone said martha stewart is tough in business, people say ooh, yeah. >> i think in sing pour now, as a man and a woman, the man is giving a speech and they say he's tough. the woman gives a speech and they say -- they keep doing this contrast. it's brilliant. it sums it up. >> you are ahead of your time. i remember when i was following your career like a big fan and people would say she is tough and put it in context and i say no, she is effective. what else would you want to be but tough. >> i think i'm also nice. >> so nice. >> i have been nice to you. we are sitting at the same table. we can talk. >> by the way, you can have jane's birthday cake. >> how exciting. talking about being ahead of
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your time, women said you are this icon to hipsters. martha found a surprising new set of fans with hipsters who want to pickle vegetables and embrace the self approaches. >> look what's happening in brooklyn. there is a huge reaction to do it yourself. every restaurant is so good. i'm tired of going to brooklyn because i have to see so many new and fabulous things and it's far to go when you live in bedford, new york. it's an amazing thing what they are doing. as a result we have created american made. and can i give a plug to american made? >> please. >> ebay-american made is a great place to go. it's an online store we developed with ebay to put forth the great american makers.
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these are young entrepreneurs, little aged entrepreneurs who are working in their own space creating american made products. >> it is interesting how a cutting edge of culture, a pop culture and food culture and sort of living culture came back around where you were obviously the queen of it. then maybe it was that people did the snl skits and i'm making my own pine cones. you look at farm to table. we have friends who say it's from the deep south to brooklyn. everybody is talking about what you were talking about. >> people are looking for better american made. they are looking for homemade and do it yourself. they are looking for confidence and a realization that oh, my gosh, this i made. >> we lot of ourselves when we
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buy everything. including food. families do take out, take out. >> that's why we do cookbooks, cookbooks. teaching people how to cook and make. >> it's ebay? >> ebay-american made. there hadn'ts of fabulous american made products we created and have chosen from all these makers who are selling the products. easy to get. that's good too. >> this show has been a little too skinny. i endorse women advancing in business. >> on that note -- >> and american made. >> always ahead of your time. martha stewart's cakes. thank you so much. the health book as well. coming up -- >> a birthday party for jane. >> i'm ready. >> have a good time. >> it will be fantastic. >> what's driving today's
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christmas. there were six fewer days. there was seasonality in terms of holiday hiring or not. i am going through the state piling through. the jumps came in the state of wisconsin that was double the next highest state of ohio. i don't know what was going on. i am trying to come out. weekly claims jump and i wouldn't panic yet. it's one week and one number. we will have to wait and see what happens. that's more important. "new york times" reporting jpmorgan close to a $2 billion settlement in the bernie madoff case. >> how many finds -- come on. i get these alerts. jpmorgan reagrees to a settlement. how much longer is this going on? i thought they finished the settlements with the feds? >> these are all different events and the numbers are huge. this is a $2 billion one related
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to the bernie madoff. jpmorgan was madoff's primary banker. hold off because here's the reality. they will do what's called a deferred prosecution according to the times which will mean no indictments. apparently the prosecutors ultimately again decided to go for the money. they want the fine and a lot of that going as restitution who lot of money. a deferred prosecution. i can't remember what that means. >> i read yesterday after the huge fine and whatever it was, after they resolve that with the feds, it's so much that they absolutely wiped that away today. >> a lot of that is tax deductible. >> it's not impacting the bottom line. >> no. jpmorgan is profitable. they like to get this stuff off. i have to give you a shout out and i haven't seen you since the big game.
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it's specific treatment for diabetic nerve pain. we have the golden globe nominations just out on january 12th. tina fey and amy poehler are hosting. you want to go through them? television comedy series. big bang theory, brooklyn 99, girls, modern rec. breaking bad, downton abby and masters of sex. they have got to. it has to be done. best actor in a tv drama. brian cranston from breaking bad. michael sheen, masters of sex. kevin spacey, house of cards. this is a hard one. the plaque list and lee shriber.
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we have one minute. i don't know. best comeetic film, inside lewis davis. nebraska. lou ellen davis. nebraska and wolf of wall street. best dramatic film, 12 years a slave. gravity, philomena, that looks good. and rush. >> did they call that a comedy some. >> it's not a comedy. supposed to be amazing. >> brad is in it. >> is he? bradley. he's such a good actor. no more wedding crashers for him. >> on wall street. >> that's not a comedy. there parts that are a comedy. >> that's ridiculous to put that in a comedy. >> there you go. the golden globe nominees out moments ago, we will be following that up next.
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>> lemon mi rang. >> i'm cooking from 2:00 to 4:00. >> "morning joe" has been snubbed for not being nominated for best comedy series. >> good point. >> i should take sleep meds a little earlier in the night. when i take them. there is nothing wrong with that. i thought that was a saying. my friend and i used to say that all the time. take a chill pill. >> go hug a refrigerator. i never heard that before. >> i say it to my dad all the time. >> thank you very much for watching "morning joe." thank you for your patience. >> i'm going to try to forget that day. >> if it's way too early, what time is it? >> ordinarily it would be time for "morning joe," but the eagles with don henley will be
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