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wasserman schultz if any of her house colleagues plan to run for re-election talking about it. former bush treasury official who ended up serving in the obama white house, wants to knock out governor jerry brown. does any republican have a chance statewide in california? especially one who is known as t.a.r.p.'s top touter? it's an illiterate morning here. good morning. it's tuesday, april 1st, 2014. this is "the daily rundown." yes, it's april fools' day. i feel like twitter and the internet ruined april fool's a long time ago. let's get to the headlines first. the immediate one is what's going on with gm. on the ceo of general motors on capitol hill, the company was begging for government money. now we're learning the car company that american taxpayers
spent $50 million bailing out knew for a decade, even before then, about ignition switches that caused accidents and deaths and failed to tell its customers let alone the safety department. mary barra will testify about why it took ten years to issue a recall after first knowing about a defect. shutting off the engine, disabling the air bags are believed to be responsible for 13 deaths. gm announced it would recall another 1.3 million cars. that may experience a sudden loss of electrical power, steering resulting in a higher risk of crash. this new list includes 2004 to 2009 chevy malibus which already had older models on the list of recall along with five other gm models, bringing gm's total for
the year to 6.3 million recalls worldwide. 18-year-old natasha wigle and 18-year-old amy ronemaker died. >> to gm they might be statistics and number. these were our children. and they just act like they don't matter. they may not have mattered to gm, but they mattered to us. my life will never be the same. >> mary barra has apologized for the fact that gm failed to order a recall when the company first learned of the problems with its ignition switches. >> something went wrong with our process in this instance and terrible things happened. as a member of the gm family and as a mom with a family of my own, this really hits home for me.
we have apologized, but that is just one step in the journey to resolve this. >> barra had an emotional meeting last night with 22 family members who lost loved ones in accidents tied to these ignition switches. the families will hold a news conference at 10:00 this morning. robert hillyerd, representing many families in a civil suit, sent barra and gm counsel a letter requesting a meeting with the families. he said that barra was very respectful and told them face to face she was sorry and assured them she would make things right n prepared testimony before the committee this is what she's expected to say. quote. i cannot tell you why it took years for a safety defect to be announced in that program but i can tell you that we will find out. >> clearly, the fact that it took over ten years indicate that is we have work to do to improve our process. and we are dedicated to doing that. that is why we've hired anton volucas, former district
attorney, to help us investigate this process. >> barra is expected to apologize again this afternoon, telling the committee this. quote, today's gm will do the right thing, beginning with my sincere apologies to everyone has been affected by this recall, especially to the families and friends of those who lost their lives or were injured. i am deeply sorry. barra has create aid new position, vice president of global vehicle safety and named a long-time gm employee to that role. also in the hot seat today, by the way, will be david friedman, acting administrator of the national highway traffic safety administration, nhtsa, the top safety regulator. he is expected to point the finger at gm in his testimony saying, quote, his agency examined the available information multiple times, using consumer complaints, early warning data, special crash investigation, manufacturer information about how air bags function and other tools but they did not find sufficient evidence of a possible safety defect or defect trend that would warrant opening a formal
investigation. gm had critical information, he will say, that would have helped identify this defect. so, nhtsa and the justice department have launched investigations into gm's handling of the crisis and the families of natasha weigle and amy rademaker have sued gm in federal court. it will show to what extent gm is liable for what happened before the bankruptcy deal, which was all about the bailout. legal protection for things that happened before it was negotiated. but some legal experts believe the company may be forced to compensate victims if victims can prove it did not disclose knowledge of problems while bankruptcy negotiations were taking place. meanwhile, nbc news investigation unit has obtained an internal gm memo, suggesting a design engineer named ray degorgio knew about the ignition switch problem in 2006 and then
signed a document authorizing a redesign. in a 2013 deposition, related to the death of a woman who died in a crash in her co-bolt degiorgio says he did not know about changes to the switch. >> so if any such change was made it was made without your knowledge and authorization? >> that's correct. >> the document has his signature on it. about as close to a smoking gun as you might find in cases like this. scenes like right out of the movie "erin brockovich." chair i chairing today's subcommittee hearing, mr. chairman, good morning to you, sir. >> good morning. >> let me ask you the simple first question that you may have. what's the biggest question you have for gm's ceo today? >> well, apparently they knew there was a problem with the switch. they knew it was not meeting
their own specs but accepted it anyways. then they moved forward along these lines and replace d it in new cars but not in the old cars. something terrible went wrong within this company of people either not communicating with each other, not looking at hard data. i have to tell you the same thing is going to be asked of nhtsa, national highway transportation safety administration. they also knew something was wrong but for some reason they didn't connect the dots either. the company that made the cars and the federal agency which is tasked with protecting the public both messed up pretty bad here. >> what do we think here is where things fell through the cracks? is this a case where nhtsa is going to say, hey, we didn't have all the information we needed from gm? >> i'm not sure i buy that. >> okay. >> i looked at that power point presentation they had in september 2007 and by november they decided not to move on and they had another decision they made a couple of years later. i'm not sure anybody asked that question, what are all the things that can cause the air
bags not to deploy, what else occurred in these cars? they look at things like power and i'm not sure they looked thoroughly at all the questions involved. >> you look at gm and this issue of liability, is there anything congress can do to sort of waive the indemnity clause they got? they got one for their bankruptcy. do you believe there is some way that congress can get involved in this? it does seem as if gm should be held liable for this and not hide behind the government bailout. right? >> gm did establish a fund to help handle some of these suits and victims and that gm is not going to walk away from this. they are taking some responsibility. what happens in the long run, was there a culture in gm which had people feel that they weren't to send information up and down and across a chain of command? that's what this comes down to. the data was there, but they weren't connecting the dots. we don't know if people were
passing that information on to each other and reviewing it appropriately. there are a lot of top-level engineers and bright people within nhtsa. how did they both miss this? it's a huge failure to communicate and knowing what's taking place. >> i have that piece of paper for you where we had one of these engineers signed the paper in 2006 and claimed in a deposition he didn't know anything about it. that's a paper trail that goes back to 2006, is it not? >> gm knew that the part they had was not acceptable. they knew that this part did not meet specs in terms of the energy and strength it took to turn the key on and keep it in the on position, not move to the accessory position. somebody had to sign off on that. someone's name on it, some group of people who said it was okay. and that is where the problems really begin. >> all right. that hearing takes place this afternoon. tim murphy, republican from pennsylvania, who will be chairing this hearing that will feature the ceo of gm and the acting head of nhtsa.
thank you, sir. >> thank you. new information developing now. a potentially critical breakthrough today in the mideast peace negotiations or the negotiations to start the negotiations. a senior state department official confirms to nbc news that parole is now on the table for convicted israeli spy jonathan pollard, serving a life sentence for espionage, convict after passing secret governments to the the israeli government. pollard's release as a new bargaining chip in these troubled peace plan negotiations. under this new proposed plan if the u.s. -- sort of a three-way deal here. israel would then release hundreds of palestinian prisoners, which would keep palestinians at the negotiating table through 2015. under the deal pollard would be
released before the jewish holiday passover which begins april 14th. we learned that secretary of state kerry will go back to israel and visit ramallah tomorrow after the u.s.-eu meeting tomorrow. pollard is a bargaining chip at this point in the peace talks. these are talks to set the ground rules for talks. this isn't somehow at the end game of the actual deal itself. something to ponder in how the u.s. is desperate to keep the talks going. and now dangling pollard. we'll be right back. dnc chair debbie wasserman schultz will be here, talking politics 2014, including health care. first, it's primary day for the mayor and many other offices right here in washington, d.c. and the red sox meet the president some time this afternoon before they have to go back to baltimore. you're watching the daily rundown only on msnbc. s jane. her long day on set starts with shoulder pain... ...and a choice
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the midnight deadline has come and gone. at least technically. it's a waiting game to see how the issue of health care plays up leading to the mid term elections. monday a flood of last-minute enrollments put the total number on track to reach or exceed the administration's original goal of 7 million as of 8:00 pm last night hhs tweeted this. the website had 3 million visits, double last week's daily average. despite long wait times, a website that was slowed down by more than 125,000 simultaneous users, it appears the site held up relative ly well, given the avalanche of traffic. people are logging on to healthcare.gov, are being told open enrollment is over. of course, that's not exactly true. if you registered before the midnight deadline, you can still
get coverage. if you live in the state of oregon you can get coverage until april 30th. vice president biden explained all of this to during a visit to an enrollment center in d.c. >> it's kind of like voting. once you're in line, the vote gets counted no matter how long it takes and the poll closes. i wanted to come by and say you're doing the right thing. >> for those who registered before midnight you have until april 15th to complete your enrollment. of course, as i said with oregon, they had to extend their deadline to april 30th. for the most part, enrollment is over, along with the massive campaign to get people to sign up. centers for medicare and medicaid services spent $52 million in paid media to advertise the affordable care act since january. to some degree it's born some fruit. the law's popularity is still a major question mark. now that's despite a new poll this morning, abc washington post that does something that raised a lot of eyebrows, put support for the law in the
positive territory, 49%, result that hasn't been duplicated by any other poll yet. could be an outlier. something still to watch for. problem for democrats and republicans is that there will be a immediate vacuum. there won't be daily updates on enrollments, nothing to feed the news cycle. how will the two parties press their advantage or disadvantage? joining me now, florida democratic congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz. good morning to you. >> good morning, chuck. >> no disputing that on a simply pure headline day, best 24 hours of the health care law as far as health care support is concerned, new national poll. like i said, hasn't been matched yet. might be an outlyer. good headline for you. and 7 million enrollees. do you feel like this is a success today? >> absolutely. more than 6 million people have signed up for health care coverage, 9.5 million people who did not previously have coverage who now have it. you have the ability of people like me, who have a pre-existing
condition. i'm a breast cancer survivor, who don't have to fear being dropped or denied coverage for their pre-existing condition. you have no more worry about medical bankruptcy because gone are the days of lifetime and annual caps. seniors have -- the average senior in my district, chuck, saves $940 a year on their prescription drugs because obamacare closes -- >> the hole. >> that donut hole. the list goes on. it's only going to get better. >> what do you say -- this is obviously because this is happening on the campaign trail. what are you going to say when there are millions of people out there that are paying more because they don't get the subsidy? i know you'll say it's a better insurance policy than they ever had before, but there are people in the private insurance marketplace who are healthy, who are paying more. and they feel as if they got the short end of the stick. >> where are the millions of people who are paying more? what we've seen is that there are countless examples. there are millions of people who are paying less. in addition to the millions of people who -- i mean, countless
stories of people -- >> no doubt. somebody had to win. somebody had to lose and healthier people are paying, in some cases, are paying more than -- >> the vast, overwhelming majority of people who got coverage are not paying more. they're getting better benefits for less money. of course, there will always be people who pay a little bit more. when it comes to november and people are evaluating whether or not obamacare made their lives better or whether it made their lives harder. they're going to see republicans, you know, voting more than 50 times to go back to the broken health care system and take away lower cost prescription drugs, no more medical bankruptcy, people who have pre-existing conditions not being dropped or denied coverage. better, more affordable healthcare. and they're going to see democrats who helped make that possible and want to address any problems as they might arise. >> the addressing of the problems, give me a bill right now you would introduce to address a problem. >> there's no specific bill, actually, right now that i
would -- >> you don't view there's a legislative problem that needs to be fixed? >> i think there are going to be issues that arise around the margins. if we just have a chance to sit with republicans, as we've done through hundreds of billions through years of our history, we could hammer out problems that arise. >> you don't have one that's on your radar screen? >> that comes to mind immediately? no, nothing glaring. i'm not saying that there aren't problems. there are always going to be, you know, ticks in a law that arise. what we should be doing is sitting down and working those out. today, what is very clear is that poll shows that obamacare is getting more popular. you can see by the surge and support that we have at the democratic national committee, 450,000 online grassroots donors just yesterday. record in online fund-raising this past month because there's been a surge in our supporters because they are happy that the
affordable care act has been implemented, happy that it's giving them benefits they've never had before. look at women. the contrast with women is very stark. you have contraceptive coverage, preventive care like mammograms and colonoscopies, no coverage. zblur the head of the democratic political party. in my home state, ran on a message i want to fix the healthcare law. i don't want it repealed. you had a base turnout problem. are you worried that the base of the party isn't fired up? what excites the base to the polls? >> i think that election was under two points because david jolly was for repeal and alex sink said -- >> you think healthcare made that race closer? >> i think healthcare made that race closer. absolutely we have to make sure
we turn our people out on election day. that was a special election. >> pretty big swing state. >> it's a swing state but that was an r plus 8 to 13 advantage going into a race like that. in november in this mid term you'll see an electorate that will allow us to -- through our advantage we have in our ground game with our digital and technology advantage that we're increasing we'll be able to, i think, pick up that seat. >> the mechanics of the dnc. you're going to do something that no major league national party has had to do in an election year before, operate the entire year in debt. how are you going to handle this? >> we're steadily paying it off. >> will it be paid off before november? >> i'm not going to make any predictions about where we'll be. we're continuing to steadily pay it down. we're building on a digital and technological advantage. we ran circles around them in 2012. we'll continue to do that, focused on voter expansion, holding republicans accountable
for their baseless gop attacks, getting our activists involved and they're responding, as we saw with the record fund-raising months. >> democrat from florida. chair -- >> go gators. >> watch out for those wildcats. thank you very much. up next, we'll break down california's race for governor. first, tell you about california's drought problem today. it's in today's data bank. the number is eight, the number of inches of snow that's fallen on the sierras, 29% of what falls on the sierra slopes which means many communities are having to ration water. it's also threatening farms and fisharies. this is something all summer long that folks are concerned about in california, that wildfire season is going to be nearly impossible to deal with. can a republican who is trying to unseat governor jerry brown in california somehow overcome being the face of the t.a.r.p. bailout? we'll ask the man trying to do that. today's tdr trivia question,
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losing their senate seats up and down the ballot in 2010. following goldman sachs to the treasury department where he was named the $7 billion man for propping up the institutions on the government's dime. according to legend during congressional hearings he kept a note card in front of him that read "the louder he yells the calmer i shall be." there was a lot of yelling. >> tune what really bothers me? all these other people who are lined up. they say is he a chump? >> i want to know the time and date. i want to know whether congress was lied to or whether there was a team all along. >> california has a top two primary system. june 3rd primary as one of the top two candidates. brown will be one. who will be two?
means he has to defeat one of his republican challengers. >> known nationally for putting out perhaps the oddest video of the 2014 cycle. >> we're californians. i want a gun in every californians gun safe, out of our businesses and our bedrooms. i want to bring the film industry back where she belongs. hollywood. i want to make california the sexiest place on the planet to do business. [ speaking spanish ] >> that was tim donnelly. meet the man running against him, and jerry brown, california gubernatorial candidate kashkari. >> i should have brought my card with me. you're bringing me flashbacks back to my time in washington. great to see you. i want to help rebuild the republican party in california. i want to make the republican
party the party of hard work where we're bringing everyone, latinos, african-americans, everyone into the republican tent. if you want to work hard, we're the part for you. california is ranked 46th in education, 47 in job sps number one in poverty. >> with jerry brown, what's the defense? you look back at his four years, frankly at what's been a mess of a budget process of gray davis and arnold schwarzenegger. i look at it from here and think boy, he seemed to have at least governed the state, a state that some thought was ungovernable. >> i say he is very good at presiding over the the status quo. unfortunately it's horrible for millions of californians. literally 47 in jobs, 46 in education. >> do you think he has been a better governor than schwarzenegger? >> from the depths of the great recession has certainly helped.
california comeback. when i travel around the state and meet with families they look across the table with each other and say what is this man talking about? he has 30 to 40 years of peerns he says. in 1980 california wag ranked 11 out of 50 states for most educate educated workforce. we're 48th today. 25th for jobs. 47th today. number one for poverty today. california's middle class has been destroyed and governor brown is not even acknowledging it. >> you want to rebuild the california republican party, nothing has destroyed the california republican party more than prop 187 and how pete wilson won basically by any means necessary in 1984. >> my parents came here from india 50 years ago. immigrants add a huge value to our country. >> support this gang of eight, get something through and get it passed ? >> eneed to come up with a national solution. some element of either path to citizenship or green card make ace lot of sense. we have to value and recognize
what people are contributing to our society. yes, we need to update our laws and enforce the laws. there's a reasonable solution that we can all get behind. i travel around the state and meet with latino and african-american families. they want a fair chance to work hard. >> they are next to your name the national party's brand. how much does that hurt you in california? >> it's a big issue. i want to go to not just the national brand but the california brand. people couldn't care less. jerry brown isn't going into homeless shelters and food banks. we're back, we're on top of the world. his self congratulations. >> ton of nice clips, lot of nice things about you, some of the grand pubas will say the same thing, if only he were running for a spot he could win, comptroller.
why is he immediately jumping in and running race for governor? >> i want to make big changes in the state. this is not a career for me. >> rebuild the republican party if you actually won comptroller. >> here is the thing. i don't think i could win controller or treasurer if we don't have the right candidate at the top of the ticket. we need a candidate at the top of the ticket who can bring everyone back in the republican fold. republican party is a big tent. we want you to succeed. i think i can do that. i don't think i can do that by myself running for a lower office. >> still not a big enough bank account to have in california to run a political campaign, some would say. stay safe on the campaign trail. good to see you. >> thank you very much. we'll be right back. the latest developments on the search for the missing malaysian plane flight 370. 2 percent to manage your money. 2 percent that's not much, you think except it's 2 percent every year. does that make a difference? search "cost of financial advisors" ouch! over time it really adds up.
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immediate financial help for dozens of families who lost their homes and loved ones in the massive mudslide. search crews are slogging through the mud for the tenth day since the mudslide. 24 are dead and 22 are missing. the oldest among the missing is 91, the youngest just 2. the governor is asking president obama to declare the site a, quote, major disaster, because that would unlock more federal funds to help pay for the clean up, recovery and, yes, even funeral costs. turning now to the search for flight 370. and we just got word that all search aircraft have returned for the day to perth without finding any sign of the plane. there is also word of a costly delay in the hunt for clues. "the wall street journal" reports that poor coordination caused flight crews to search the wrong spot for three days.
australia has now set up a coordination center to track ships and planes, civil crayon and military, from almost a dozen countries. >> this search and recovery operation is probably the most challenging one i have ever seen. what we really need now is to find debris, wreckage from the aircraft and that will change the whole nature of our search. >> we also learned that flight 370's last words were not what malaysian authorities told us. instead of all right, good night. the new transcript shows someone in the cockpit saying gd night malaysian 370. families were briefed on this message this morning but it's not clear what the difference might mean. ping detector is ready to set sail on an australian war ship. it could take four days to get
the equipment to the search site. the black box battery could last only another eight days. we only have about four to try to find this. another top house member is making the daily run crown data bank, michigan dave camp who just announced he would retire. this number of six, 6 of the 23 announced retirements from the house this year, over a quarter of them, are either committee chairmen or ranking members who would be committee chairmen if democrats won. never mind what we've seen in the senate. representative camp is giving up the powerful gavel in the house in the ways and means committee. he would have to give that up no matter what, if he were to run again. if you add it up, between all the michigan members of congress retiring, dingle, rogers, camp. the house is losing 133 years of congressional experience and mostly in the state of michigan. tough times for michigan when it comes to seniority these days.
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tdr 50 is back in the empire state to ask a question that even new yorkers can't answer. where does downstate new york end and upstate new york begin? for some city dweller upstate is anything north of the bronx. we did a little digging. here is what we came up with. first you have new york city. there it is, right there. that's the bronx, new york, queens, brooklyn, staten island. to the north, we have the down state suburbs. according to the mta and "the new york times," that's nassau,
suffolk, on long island and the counties of orange, putnam and duchess. anything north of that is upstate. if you look at those downstate suburbs, you can see the political transition taking place with the exception of rockland county, which is solidly democratic, the rest of them are pretty evenly divided. suffolk county is almost an exact 50/50 split. despite being upstate albany, democrats outnumber republicans 2-1. more like new york city than its upstate neighbor. like the political divide there's a demographic divide between upstate and downstate. according to the study of census
data, 7% african-american, 2% asian. in their study they included dutchess and orange county as upstate. 45% white, 18% african-american, 25% hispanic and 10% asian. not everyone believes the two regions can even coexist. just like a lot of big states there's a movement under way in new york to split the city and its suburbs from the rest of new york. basically another attempt for republicans to find some sort of power. they would rename these states new amsterdam after new york's original dutch name. that's kind of city. joining me now, public service director and director emeritus. professor, good morning to you, sir. >> hi, chuck. >> i have to say, it sort of amuses me -- i have my map out here.
i'm drawing a line between the suburbs. essentially what you're saying is everything north of white plains -- i'm being a little facetious here, is upstate. is that the fairest description? we're not really giving a good geographic lesson when we say upstate, are we? >> i think it is a fair description. and what you said about the mumford center is also interesting. the traditional metro area doesn't include dutchess or orange in the mid hudson valley, so that's ten counties. i think people in the northern suburbs, in westchester and rockland, particularly, think of themselves as downstate not upstate. so i think mta region is a good proxy for what really is downstate new york. >> we hear about all of this, upstate, democratic politician wants to make sure how to figure
out that they don't get clobbered in upstate, that they're competitive in upstate. but it isn't all homogenous upstate. western new york a little bit different than other parts of the state? give me a little bit of description that sort of diversifies the, quote, unquote, upstate region of new york. >> well, the large up dstate cities in the erie canal corridor, rochester, buffalo, syracuse, are the largest. they have traditionally been democratic but they elect republican county executives sometimes and even republican mayors. turnout has to be much higher in
upstate rather than downstate. he won every upstate county. in fact, he won every county in new york state and the four larger burroughs in new york city. so the -- it seems to be the turnout and how big a majority a republican can get in upstate new york. it used to be that the republican formula for victory was to do much better than average in new york city to come close to winning new york city and have a traditional margin in upstate new york. >> let me stop you there. because actually that was my next question has to do with the issue of the suburbs. it seems that the reason that new york has gone from a reasonably competitive state where democrats are marginally favored in state-wide elections to basically a rock-solid blue
state really is because of the suburbs on long island because they're no longer republican strongholds. they are now swing -- they're swing counties. if they're swing counties, well, the numbers just don't add up. is that a fair assessment? >> that's fair. but all of the suburbs except for suffolk county have republican county executives. >> but they can't run up the margins they used to run up, which was part of the problem in the rockefeller era. right? >> right.
sorry to cut you off there, but i am running short on time. university of albany, i appreciate it. i wanted to get this political geography lesson done. so many people throw out the words upstate and don't know what it means. thanks for being up. >> thank you. tdr 50 trivia time. we spilled the beans early on the answer today, harry truman and woodrow wilson, only
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time now for your tuesday takeaway as we get into the second round of the presidential near-miss tournament. we have fun for you today, april fools like, seems like a good day to look at the gaffes and goof of the singular moment that sunk a candidate in recent elections. here's a walk down memory lane, or nightmare lane, in recent elections. >> 47% with him, they believe they are victims and the government has a responsibility to care for them. >> fundamentals of our economy are strong. >> i did vote for the $87
billion before i voted against it. >> i think we need to put medicare and social security in a locked box. the governor will not put medicare in a locked box. >> and we went farther down the line there, you keep going back down from bob dole and falling down while flipping pancakes, george h.w. bush looking at his watch, '88, ducacas and the tank, saying he won't tell you he'll raise taxes, i will. '80 was melees, then the eastern block issue with the soviet dominance, and lack thereof, with gerald ford in '76. that's it for this edition of "the daily rundown." we'll have the full version on our website. couldn't get it all on now. coming up next is chris jansing. news conference with the families who lost loved ones in gm cars is in her hour, also senator richard blumenthal.
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driving controversy. the general motors' ceo gives her side of the story to congress today after a meeting with victims' families last night. did gm withhold information, or did the oversight fail? ryan-omics, the 2015 of the paul ryan budget will be released this hour. and the plane truth. now we know exactly what was said in that cockpit before malaysian airlines flight 370 disappeared, as a troubling new report raises questions about search coordination. good morning, i'm chris jansing, and we begin today on capitol hill and what will likely be a day of high drama and emotion surrounding general motors ignition switch recall. we're waiting to hear from family members who lost loved ones in car crashes linked to those ignition switch problems, that led to at least a dozen deaths and more injuries. family members met privately th