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of the third annual global citizen festival hosted by ronan farrow, chris hayes and alex wagner live from central park. that starts right now. live from central park in new york city, the day has finally come! >> over 60,000 global citizens celebrating the movement to end extreme poverty. >> live from new york city, it's the third annual global citizen festival. a concert to end extreme poverty. over 60,000 global citizens earned their tickets by taking action to help the world's neediest people. and now they're here on the great lawn for a day-long concert hosted by hugh jackman and featuring some of the biggest names in music and entertainment.
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tiesto, the roots, fun, alicia keys, carrie underwood, no doubt, and jay-z. >> what's up, new york city? >> it's the third annual global citizen festival, a concert to end extreme poverty. and it all begins now. >> right here on the great lawn in central park in new york city, this is the third annual global citizen festival, a concert to end extreme poverty. i'm chris hayes alongside my good friend and colleague alex wagner. and we're going to be your broadcast hosts for this amazing event. >> and we have a mind-blowingly awesome lineup for you today including but not limited to no doubt, the roots, fun, tiesto and jay-z. >> huge celebrities like hugh jackman and jessica alba will help emcee from the big stage.
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there will be some very big surprise performances, this aassure you, from special guests as well. >> chris and i will be here from tiesto's sweet bass line until jay-z drops the hammer about seven hours from now. we'll be with this crowd of 60,000 global citizens. we're not actually allowed to buy tickets. they had to earn them. >> the man behind the whole movement, hugh evans, will join us to talk about how the heck this concert came to be and what it's all about. i actually still don't understand how it exists. but first as we get ready for the big show out here on the great lawn, we also have unprecedented access to what's going on behind the scenes. let's go to our special backstage correspondent for today, our msnbc colleague ronan farrow. >> chris, alex, it's a blast back here. you have the cushy setting but we'll show you the inner workings of this. you have the big musical acts. i listened to carrie underwood's sound check, she sounds amazing.
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gwen stefani is excited about the energy of this crowd being so devoted to making a difference. we have world leaders pouring in. this whole area you see backstage here will be on lockdown later when prime minister modi of india arrives. that's one duet i want to see, gwen stefani and prime minister modi. >> no doubt for real. >> i want to take you up on the stage for a little bit. you see the rigging equipment. here are the table of producers that are making this possible right here. i'll joe yshow you jay-z's gear right here. i touched it, i got very excited. this will be a combination of american politician, international leaders and hopefully some real commitments from players like norway that have been asked by bands like no doubt to actual contribute funding to some of these causes. >> ronan, the only way this can get better is if you go up on stage with jay-z for the entire
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blueprint 2 album. >> don't tempt me. i may actually do it. center stage, this is the big show. get excited. >> awesome. ronan, everybody knows that the real, great, interesting, fantastic, dynamic stuff happens backstage. we're so psyched to have you over there. we'll continue to check in with you throughout the concert, but first joining us now is the man who put all this together. hugh evans, co-founder and ceo of the global poverty project. congratulations, my friend. >> thank you so much, alex and thank you, chris, it is really awe some to be here. >> i don't understand how this is happening. no -- >> we don't even know how we got here. >> yeah, someone called me this morning and said go to central park. no. how do you get -- so first of all there's all the acts, there's the absolute incredible logistical architecture that has to happen to bring this together. like how does this happen?
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how did it first come to be and how do you manage to pull this off? >> it started back in 2011. my wife and i moved to new york city. we love this city. we thought let's bring the fight against pov either to a whole new level. we all located here and we said let's try to kick this off. we weren't sure that this was going to happen because no one had played on the great lawn since simon and garfunkel in 1981 on a saturday. we asked the mayor's office and they said, yes, yes, yes. last year took it to a whole new level with stevie wonder and alicia keys. when the man himself, jay-z, said he would perform, we were blown away. >> you can't do it again because it doesn't get better than this. >> this is an annoying question. when you said you asked people, it is like mr. z -- >> mr. carter. >> yes, mr. carter. >> no, but how does that -- >> well, we have the best support from the u.s. music industry. the head of universal music lucy
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grangen and michelle anthony with tribeca and they got behind us and really mentored us. we want to get behind you guys and do something really special. the guys behind coachella got behind this. it was a huge team effort. >> how did you explain the focus of what you're doing and how that's different than -- there are a ton of activist and advocacy agencies in the world. how did you distinguish the work you were doing from everybody else? >> we saw the great concerts of the past, live aid, and it's not just about one night of action. we want to create activists 365 days a year. let's turn the model on its head. we launched the show early six months before the show and we give global citizens six months to earn their way in through what they learn, say, give, buy and do. all of these actions would score them points and the points would enable them to come to central park for free to be part of the
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action. what that enabled us to do was to use the power of literally a movement of 60,000 people and above and beyond that to influence leaders at the highest level. when prime minister modi comes here tonight of india, when ernest salberg comes here, they've all been invited by the tweets and e-mails and messages of literally hundreds of thousands of global citizens. >> they come here and what do you expect out of it? i know there's kind of an expectation that when world leaders come to the stage they're coming to announce something, some kind of commitment in the three core areas. >> exactly, we're focused on three major issue, water and sanitation across the indian subconnent. with the prime minister of india and nepal we're hoping a huge commitment on water and sanitation. we've been focusing on that at a grassroots level. secondly we're focused on the issue of girls education.
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we know that together with malala we've been calling on the canadian government who is one of the last to commit. and the foreign minister from canada is coming tonight. thirdly, we're focused on the issue of vaccines and immunizations trying to keep children alive beyond the age of 5 years old so they don't die from preventable diseases. we called on ernest salberg, the prime minister of norway, which is the most generous nation in the world, to make a commitment. >> in terms of the three core areas, who is the guiding light in all that. >> we have an amazing policy and advocacy team. simon maas and an advisory board we set up a year in advance. where is the movement headed? what are the big issues 2015? what are world leaders thinking about? and what do we need to be thinking about? and we go through this rigorous process about a year in advance.
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what would it be like to truly win on stage of the festival? nothing is guaranteed. that's the power of this movement. you don't entirely know whether you win or not. >> he says with -- i think you're doing pretty good, my friend. not a bad turnout. >> canada comes ow and like, sorry. >> i was just here for jay-z. >> found er and ceo of the globl citizen project. >> we have a huge night ahead, jay-z, no doubt, fun, carrie underwood and so more. >> a packed show for you leading up to the official start of the concert at 4:00 p.m. coming up next we'll check back in with ronan farrow who has tiesto with him.
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we are back live at the third annual global citizen festival in central park. there's so much coming up including live performances from no doubt, carrie underwood, fun, tiesto, alicia keys, the roots and jay-z. >> the intrepid ronan farrow is backstage with tiesto. ronan, what a get. we're in first 15 minutes of the show. what do you have for us, my friend? >> we have the good sources for you guys.
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tiesto, you've seen this crowd. what is different about the energy here tonight? >> well, it's a very special occasion, you know, to be in central park and to play with so many great artists. yeah, it's going to be amazing. >> and what inspired you to get involved in something that's musical, yes, but also about more substantive issues? >> i've been very lucky in my life always meeting the right people at the right time to get a break. it's really important for me to give back. and what i see with global poverty for the world and the foundation is amazing, i want to be part of it. >> talk about that. you transitioned from working on music to working with this group the world childhood foundation. why? >> i met the people personally behind it. and i met queen sophia. >> they'll be here tonight. >> they'll be here tonight. they were so passionate about it. they wanted to get involved. and also the global poverty foundation. >> so what do you say, tiesto to
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people who say, oh, this is stars showboating, this isn't really substantive, this isn't what we need the add to the conversation? >> i think they're wrong. i met the organization from this whole thing, and they're so fanatic about it. they told me all about it. we had lunch together. i was so impressed with all the work they did. that's why i'm here. that's the only reason. >> and the signs of that substance are everywhere. i was looking at the portable toilets. they have big signs on them saying more than a billion people have to defecate in the open, that leads to all sorts of public health challenges. did anyone around you on the music team feel uncomfortable with you doing an event which is really about some of these tough, dark issues? >> no, no, it's very positive to be part of it because we can make a difference and make people aware, and raise money for it. i think it's all good for everybody. >> and you attract a particularly young audience with your music. you do electronic dance music. it's very popular. you were just one for a string
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of different songs off your new album. when have you that captive audience, what do you want them to be thinking of other than just the music? >> i want them to get involved. i want them to get involved with the foundation and raise money and raise awareness and tell all your friends about it. >> 65,000 people. they didn't buy tickets. they did something substancive to get in here. >> yeah, and that's amazing. that's way better than just buying a ticket. >> who are you most excited about meeting tonight? this weird mix of world leaders and musical stars. who is your number one get tonight? >> well, i like to meet the queen of sweden again. i have a very special connection to sweden. >> you're revealing your european roots here. >> i'm european and, of course, i love jay-z. i met him before. but a down to earth nice guy. >> i'm all about the hova tonight. listen, i'm really excited about your set. this is real, these people in this crowd are starting the process of making a difference.
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tiesto, thank you, back to you guys. >> thanks, ronan. >> coming up our continuing coverage of the global citizen festival. sting will be here, carrie underwood. >> some of the biggest names in music and entertainment are here to fight poverty. one of the goals tonight is to help the children worldwide who don't have access to an education. that's next.
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when it comes to the root causes of global poverty, education tops the list. over 250 million of the world's children are unable to read or to write. and 58 million or one in ten of
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them aren't in school. they're deprived of the most basic right to an education. half of these 58 million children will likely never step foot in a classroom, but that doesn't mean nothing can be done. with all students in low income countries left school with basic reading skills, 171 million people could be lifted out of poverty. >> joining me now are cheryl wudunn and nick christophe. transforming lives, creating opportunity. i loved your last book. >> thank you. >> this one's better yet. >> well, half this guy's all about the unbelievable returns that come from the simple empowerment of women and girls and gender equity in developing countries. what are the main obstacles to education for girls in the developing world right now? there's been some improvement. but what is the main obstacle? >> people not wanting to send
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their girls to school. first of all, when there's a short supply of money, they decide well probably the boys will go. in general, primary school, there isn't that much of a gender gap but once you get to high school you have to start paying fees, then they start thinking, well, maybe my daughter really doesn't have to go to school. >> so there's two obstacles. there's a cultural obstacle when you're forced to make the choice about who you will educate. but there's this other problem that people have to pay. >> right. not just paying for school. a number of things. for instance, deworming. we don't think about an obstacle to go into school when we think about intestinal worms which kids get in that part of the world. if you get intestinal worms -- and girls are much more susceptible to feeling badly, you can't concentrate and so you drop out. and that only costs like $3.50 to deworm a kid for a year. >> i wonder, you guys have been following these issues for a while. it feels -- i ask you, nick, as someone who chronicles the world
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and sheryl, as someone who writes about it as well, are we getting better on this issue? we know a lot of progress was made by it feels like education as a global concern has stagnated in terms of interest. >> no, i really do think we're getting better. there are far more kids now going to school. when i began to cover this there were 100 million now just below 60 million. that's dropping but not nearly fast enough considering how effective it is. the metric that we've been using is the number of kids going to school when we also need to look at whether they're actually getting anything from school. one of the big problems is that there are a lot of school wrs maybe the kids go, but the teachers never show up. they don't learn anything at all. we've got to do a better job of measuring that, too. >> are the concentrations where these 58 million kids reside, are they in the poorest countries, the unks that are the most rural or have the biggest governance challenges? what are the places we will see
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that most impact on this? >> it obviously correlates to poverty but much more than poverty. a lot of poor countries that do a pretty good job. countries where women are marginalized where girls don't count and where neither families nor the government cares about them. and so you have school fees, for example, creating this obstacle or a demand that kids have to wear a school uniform. that's another obstacle for kids to go to school. >> let me ask you, we talk a lot about the rest of the world, yet education is a concern here. i wonder how do you grade the united states in terms of making sure girls have access to education and that we're actually teaching our kids the skills they need to succeed? >> of course we're much better than the developing world. the u.s. has one of the highest education opportunities and one of the highest education levels. still we have a lot of poverty. not just income poverty, but poverty of just life. so often kids born the families on welfare, they're born well behind the starting line because
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they may not be read to when they're a little baby, the mother may have smoked or drinking, so the kid has fetal alcohol syndrome. the whole mind-set of a cycle of poverty that becomes intergenerational where they keep them in school. >> this is -- we talk about sort of institutional failure. getting kids a good education is almost -- it's sort of the primary thing for a building block of success. >> this is a huge national failure because the u.s. led the way globally. the u.s. was the first country to have close to mass literacy, the first country to have close to mass attendance in high school. and the first country to have large attendance in tertiary education. these days we're tumbling down those charts. >> there's sort of an analog between what's happening globally in the u.s. there's this low hanging fruit problem. the problems that are easiest to solve are the low hanging fruit. in the u.s. you saw this unbelievable explosion in high school education in the post
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world war ii period then college education leveled off. you saw this amazing progress made between 2000 and 2008 elementary school then you start getting to the hard cases. >> one of my objections to u.s. education poll see is we spend all the resources on the high hanging fruit and there is all this low hanging fruit, which is broken schools and communities where those kids need an education and great teachers and great schools to rich suburban kids. >> if you actually look at the public education system here in the u.s. and you match it against the development of the brain architecture of a human being, it's very interesting. the brain architecture really is the most pliable and have the ability to be formed from zero to five. our public school education kicks in at 5. >> which would seem to be some sort of system change that we need. nick and sheryl, when you think about this field of education in particular, what is the single-most sdisruptive force o
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shifting cultural ideas, cultural norms about girls getting educated or the importance of sending your kids to school, is it money, education, awareness building? >> money can't fix a broken system. on the other hand, i mean, here in the u.s. we're one of very, very few countries in the world that spends less on education of low income, disadvantaged kids than we do per capita on wealthy kids. every other country spends more on disadvantaged kids. and more broadly, i think we have to pay much more attention to quality metrics both abroad and at home. so that instead of just kouning how many kid are in school we determine if they're actually learning. >> you have to determine the parenting gaps. people don't like to talk about it, but we never got educated in how to become parents. >> chris certainly didn't. two young lives being mold ied
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by this man. >> crash course. >> it's trial by fire. if you're uneducated, you were never read to when you were a little girl, why would you ever read to your little baby? you just don't know it. >> we've seen in the work that's come out of nobel prize winning james hackman and the number of words and the advocacy of early intervention and some opportunities to try to change that in new york city, one of the key planks of the new mayor was universal pre-k. which is something the president has proposed. it's one of these issues where poll see people come and say the research on this is obvious, it's low hanging fruit and the actual politics of it prove to be a lot harder. >> partly because little kids don't vote. >> not yet. >> that could change as well. if they're going to be two teachers that lead the toddler suffrage movement, that's definitely your children. tell us a little bit more about the latest book and sort of the
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focus on that and how it's different than "half the sky." >> "half the sky" was about educating women around the world and this book we extend that to the u.s. and women and boys. how to level the playing field. there's been a lot of talk about inequality in the u.s., and inequality of income and president obama said it's the challenge of our time. but we're focusing on the inequality of opportunity. you need the start early. that's why early education is great for girls, for boys. it actually starts in utero. it starts when the mother is pregnant because what she does when she is pregnant is really critical. she shouldn't drink, she shouldn't smoke. things like that. when she starts -- when the baby is infancy -- i don't know, do you read to your baby every night? >> well, i do a television show every night. >> oh, wow. >> the truth comes out. the truth comes out. it begins in one house.
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it begins in one house. >> my wife reads to the children every night. >> cool. that's what's really important. talking and reading to the kids. so the children, the children of professionals have heard 30 million more words by the time they're 4 years old than the children of kids on welfare, than children of a parent on welfare. >> great to have you here. >> just ahead on this glittering -- well, it's not really night, but it's still afternoon, but it will be a glittering night. 60,000 global citizens and performances by jay-z, fun and alicia keys. >> it's called action to fight global poverty. the key issue water, one in ten people worldwide do not have access to clean water. more on that next. ounds]
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having access to clean water in a safe, sanitary place to go to the bathroom is something most of us probably don't think much about. but around the globe 2.5 billion people live without adequate sanitation. that's a third of the world's entire population. >> that leads to disease. it also takes people's time away from doing productive things like going to school or earning an income when basic sanitation is still a question. and it has a disproportionate impact on women and girls who lose 200 million hours worldwide every day on tasks that wouldn't
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be necessary if they had access to clean water and proper sanitation. >> joining me now is a senior director for the world bank group's global practice, wonderful to have you here. so what strikes me as so fascinating about this question as a development obstacle is it's so basic and so fundamental and so important but also involves a level of infrastructure that's very difficult to build. the sewage systems that were built in developing countries and started in the revolution, you have to come to a city, tear it up, put pipes into the ground. when you have situations where people are already living and getting them latrines becomes this real engineering problem and not just a governing problem. >> let me challenge you, don't start with it's an infrastructure problem, it's a behavior problem. infrastructure has been built,
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toilets have been delivered but people don't use the toilets. in india, toilets, outhouses have been created, people convert that to animal sheds. people convert that even to temples. there's an issue of behavior change. i'll give you an example which really drives this home. many places schools are open and given as free but people don't send their girls to school. that's a behavior change. so the use of toilets and hygiene is also a behavior change. this is something we have to recognize before we get -- >> so you think from your perch, that's your first problem because you see demonstrations of place wrs the infrastructural investments are made and the behavior doesn't change. >> both. there are countries like india, my own country bangladesh, where the change has to take first stage, but egypt or argentina, where the infrastructure money is needed because the behavior changes happen, you need the money to create the infrastructure. >> chris mentions the engineering feats there were
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building at the start of century. we're now in the 21st century, from your mind, how has technology changed this equaug, both in terms of the cultural shifts and the infrastructural challenges? >> the technique of delivering water and sanitation has not changed. but what has changed is our ability to communicate with societies. to get the citizens' voices to emerge. we're at a festival where it is ens can demanding change. if you can get that to be articulated the political promise. >> give me an indication where someone has been able to successfully change these things that in some ways the deepest, most private, most essential profound cultural practices. i mean? nothing is sort of more basic than this. >> before i say that, you know, the point that you started off with, girls and women wake up in
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the middle of the night and they don't know whether there's a safe toilet to go to. that's the challenge we're facing. the place that i would start off is my own country bangladesh where villages after vil anls have put up signs which says we do not practice open defecation in our village. the way that change has happened is you got community organizations coming in, collectively bringing the villages together and actually taking them through a walk of shame. the walk of shame is getting them to recognize what are you doing? why are you doing it? do you know what impact it has? but you have to get it as a collective recognition. >> we know that sesame street is part of the lineup today. we were talking to a woman who had one of the characters on. seemed like if you were trying to change behavior, children are a really good place to start because they're the ones who are just learning about bathrooms and, you know, health and the basics. are they effective emis aers in changing communities?
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>> they're the most beautiful story-tellers in villages. once you get them on board the stories they tell their families, their parents make the change, which is why we in the world bank have pushed a lot about toilets in schools, getting skols and hygiene together. an that's made a big difference. especially scholarship for girls to attend and grants to schools who will go get girls. you know what impact that has? the schools know that if they don't have toilets, girls will not come. so they'll build toilets for girls. >> when you're talking about what is essentially a process of establishing a taboo, a cultural norm, how do you do that in a way that doesn't feel foisted from the outside, a cultural backlash. you showed up from some organization i never heard of and they're telling me to do x and y. and we've seen other areas female genital mutilation. >> seek the local innovations.
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we would have to be humble enough to realize that communities are always innovating. seek those ip ovation and help scale that up. that way you really bring it bottom up and not top down. which is the biggest lesson in development we've learned. you want change to happen, go to citizens and ask them to create that change. >> global citizens. it comes from the grassroots. thank you so much for everything and thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> coming up, we're just minutes away from the very first performance tonight. >> you'll hear from the roots, tiesto, jay-z and some major surprise guests. we'll check in with ronan farrow backstage just ahead.
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since the year 2000, 1
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billion children have been vaccinated against measles, and yellow fever and polio. in the last 24 years childhood death rates across the world for children under the age of 5 dropped by almost half saving millions and millions of lives. huge monumental steps have been made towards vaccinating the world's children, there's still a lot of work to be done. today one in five do not get most basic vaccines, that's 23 million boys and girls. and every 20 seconds a child dies from a vaccine-preventable disease. >> ronan farrow is back tp stage with more. >> i have seth berkley, a doctor who has addressed some of the issues you're talking about at gavi and a playwright who can uphold the celebrity in this debate. dr. seth berkley and navi
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shirazi. talk about some of the technical medical issue. nargis, we were talking about the importance that artists make right here in the united states. we've had celebrities come out and say don't vaccinate your children. that's caused public health problems in some wealthy schools in los angeles, lower vaccination rates now than you get in south sudan, resurgence of whooping cough, things you wouldn't expect. tell me now as an artist, someone who tells story, you would advisory artists to get into or stay out of that health debate? >> that's a very important question. it's for us to realize that people tend to follow stars. so as artists, as people who are in the arts and entertainment field, we can get a very strong following. about time that we use the arts and entertainment for change. so in this case it would be very interesting. sing a song about why we need to have vaccination, for example.
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write a play about why it's important for communities to embrace vaccination in order to children to stay alive beyond the age of 5. it's important for us to use that as a tool to bring about that change that we need to see. >> and doctor, how damaging has it been to have celebrity anti-vaccine activists in the game on this conversation? >> it's huge. because they don't understand the effects that they're having. we here don't see the diseases, so we assume they're no longer a problem. and then z coverage drops down we have a critical mass and an explosive outbreak and children die. so it's really important to make sure that good information flows and we don't end up in a situation where wealthy people have rates like that of south sudan. >> what would you say to some of the anti-vaccine celebrities who are, in my experience, also telling other celebrities to either come out and say don't vaccinate your kids or at least hold back from talking in
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positive terms about vaccines. >> i go to refugee camps, i see the baby graves lined up. i worked in uganda and see the effects of these diseases. if they understood how powerful these diseases are that's why we used to have 20, 30, 40% of kids die before they were 5 years of age. we assume all our kids will live because we have these fabulous vaccines to protect them. we have to continue to remind people. >> nargis, you also work with women's organizations. women to women is one of your groups. tell me what you tell women who are considering whether to vaccinate their children? >> that's an interesting question. we tend to tell people not to do something or to do something without necessarily painting the picture of the what if they do not do something. when we talk to young women and even the older women, we always put across the message of if you don't vaccinate your child, you would be cutting your child's life by a certain percentage.
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your child would not be able to be healthy, would not be able to go to school, receive a proper education. at the same time you would also incur some ricosts because if a child is sick, you will spend time in a hospital. >> and what the actual human consequences are of not vaccinating. as many as 6 million kids every year die because of lack of access to some of these treatments. what is gavi doing to try to reverse that trend? >> our goal is to work with the 73 poorest countries and help them build up their health systems like we did in the ebola countries where we invested $50 million but it wasn't strong enough and get the vaccines out in these countries, the ones recommended by who. we've immunized 40 million children so far. in this next period which is what we're talking about at this concert, we're hoping to immunize an additional 300 million children and prevent
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another 5 million and 6 million deaths in the period 16 to 20 by raising an additional $7.5 billion. >> how important is the private sector? gavi is focused a lot on public/private partnerships? >> of course, we need vaccines, because we work with them to shape the market, bring the price down and let new manufacturers come in from developing countries, but we work with private companies on logistics, on better data. on systems to get finance out to countries because at the end, it's about delivering the vaccines and who delivers really well? the private sector. so let's use their expertise. >> and it's going to take a combination of that private sector resourcing and some of the passionate messaging you're talking about to change this conversation. thank you, doctor, thank you, nargis. we'll hear from a lot of leaders on this subject and a lot of celebrities on this debate. keep us right here. much more coming up next. you're driving along,
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are you excited about tonight? you've seen this crowd. what is different about the energy out here tonight? >> it's a very special occasion. to be at central park and to play with so many great artists. it's going to be amazing i think. >> what inspired you to get involved that something musical but also about more substantive issues. >> well, i've been very lucky in my life. meeting the right people at the right time to get a break. it's really important for me to give back. when i see global poverty and the childhood foundation, it's mazing and i warrant to be part of it. >> welcome back, everybody, to our live coverage here on msnbc of the incredible global citizens festival. fascinating mix of incredible musical performers and tough issues. among the players here are the foundations and corporations that they're attached to. caterpillar is a sponsor of our last two hours here. they're doing interesting corporate responsibility work. michelle sullivan is the head of their foundation.
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michelle, let's talk about how important getting corporate contribution sz to contributing to some of the goals tonight. >> we believe that you need the public and private partnerships for the biggest impact. so we're very proud to partner with gpt, the global poverty project because we think it will have the greatest impact. we think that between the sectors it just has an impact people on the ground we're trying to help. >> how do you sell a business? you work within a large company. on this being from a bottom line perspective. >> certainly. caterpillar is more than just into sustainability and innovation, though we're strong in that. the caterpillar foundation supports infrastructure at the personal level. so we want people around the world to be on the path of sustainable progress and pros r prosperity. cater pillar is very strong in the infrastructure and society. the foundation does the same on
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will personal side so people are on the path to prosperity. >> one question i know a lot of people at home will have, with big companies like caterpillar involved with difficult contentious sectors like mining, for instance, how do you have some of those goals on the foundation side actually inform better behavior on the for profit side? >> at the end of the day, it's about the people on the ground. we want everybody to have an opportunity to have that path to prosp prosperity. so whenever in the world you are, we still want to work on the foundation side of course. so it is about mhumanity. >> how do you change the behavior of companies other than caterpillar getting into trouble for bad behavior? how do you have a push on the foundation side actually change how they do their core business? >> well, we try to do it by example. we are here because we're not only powering the counter but a movement of global citizenship. so for us, we lead by example and we think all companies
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should come to examples like this and support where you're trying to make a movement and make humanity a better place for everyone. >> look, important for everyone at home, we do have the sponsorship relationship with caterpillar, but prior to any of that, i worked with caterpillar when i was in government. i saw that really at some of these issues, education, for instance, the caterpillar foundation was among the first to give. you really have made a big name in that respect. has that worked from a business perspective? is caterpillar happy with the impact of that? it faces criticism, contentious issues like we're talking about, does it help to have such a robust corporate responsibility program? >> oh, certainly. we're always first in disaster, any type of disaster caterpillar is one of the first companies to be there. it does help on the business side, of course, because we want to build that infrastructure back up for people. so for us it's tied together. it's synonymous, whether it's
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business or foundation work, philanthropy, we believe it ties together and it puts a thread through caterpillar, whichever end you talk about. >> and do you find that it actually helps blunt the impact of some criticism or at least plenty a more diverse picture of what the company is? when you're taking fire on some issue, you can also say, hey, we're out there in the trenches making a difference for the better. >> certainly. we think you ought to tell the whole story, not just one side. we are doing a lot of work, we're a very large corporate sponsor. if you look at where we're working and the impact we're making like today in this movement, you will see that we are making an impact. and it is the whole company of caterpillar. >> so according to one survey, the median giving of all private corporations in their corporate social responsibility programs in a year update they looked like $20 million. we've gt ot to make sure that's more and more companies than just caterpillar.
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thank you for the work you're doing, michele. it's important work here. >> thank you. >> we're going to be back after this break with much more of our live coverage of the global citizens festival. the start of the concert is coming up. stay with us.
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welcome, everybody. we welcome more of our live coverage on mbsz of the global citizens festival. are you guys excited here in the crowd? we have 65,000 people expected here today. they have all done something to make a difference. we're going to go to stage shortly. tiesto is the short set. alex and chris are on stage. time to get excited, good music and world leaders testifying to whether or not they're ponying up to hit some of the goals tonight, education, sanitation, vaccination. we've got just a couple of seconds left.
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we are going to go to the stage. alex and chris are there. everybody? >> five, four, three, two -- please welcome our first host of the evening, msnbc broadcasters and presenters, chris hayes and alex wagner and founder of the honest company, jessica alba. >> hello, global citizens, joining us from around the world. >> welcome to the global citizen festival. >> we are all here with a common mission to take action to end extreme poverty by 2030. we're also here to tell you about commitments to the issues of health, sanitation and education.

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