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spaceflight is on hold. some high winds and technical glitch. still no word on blastoff. we will be watching closely. good morning. i'm jose diaz-balart. no indictment in the choke hold death of eric garner whose confrontation with new york city police captured on this video, ended with him dead. this morning, eric garner's wife described the moment she learned the grand jury decided not to send the case to trial. >> i just dropped my phone. and just -- started balling, started crying. because it's not fair. it's not fair. what do they not see? how could they possibly not indictment? i felt hopeless. i felt like there was not another corner to turn. there was nothing left for me to fight for. >> shame, shame, same.
shut it down. >> protests broke out in new york and outside 30 roc. protests echoed in cities across the country from washington, d.c. to san francisco. from denver to atlanta. the police officer at the center of the case issued this statement. i became a police officer to protect people. it is never my intention to harm anyone. i feel very bad about the death of mr. garner. that is cold comfort for many during a heated debate over police tactics and minority communities with a decision not to indict in ferguson very much fresh on the minds of many americans. nbc's kristen welker is monitoring reaction at the white house and msnbc's tremain lee is in staten island where garner died. let's talk about the reaction from the people closest to this case and garner's family. >> so from the community,
there's still anger. there's some shock. from the moment last night the crowd here swelled to maybe 2 dozen. mr. garner's father was actually here this morning. still on the periphery. he told me he was tired. he felt the whole weight of this entire situation was on his shoulders. he said he's vigilant and steadfast and said folks need to not only march today but for tomorrow. while the pain of this family is deep and it's rippled out into this community and folks are wondering why and not only why he was killed but how is there a nonindictment in this case but there's this mix of anger that this is just the beginning of a long journey. >> what's the next step? >> the department of justice, and attorney general holder said they will be investigating if mr. garner's civil rights were violated. there may be a civil suit. but right now, it's about they're still in mourning.
it's also kind of fueling this growing movement that fed off ferguson and now spilled over to cities across the country. >> you reported so much on the reaction in ferguson. are officials in new york city including the mayor, doing a better job at handling the situation you think? >> you just put your finger on the pulse of it. you'd have to say there's a marked difference here. in ferguson, there seems to be such a great disconnect between those in power and authority in the mayor and police chief and the people. here in new york city mayor de blasio last night echoed how this has impacted his own son. he's raising his own biracial child with how to deal with the police and always be on guard and careful with the way he interacts with police there to protect him and that resonates. mayor de blasio has long been a friend of minority communities and been on the front of many fights from charter schools to stop and frisk. it's a marked difference. >> i want to get to the white
house now and nbc's kristen welker. good morning. >> ohiojose, good morning. >> the justice department announced they will be launching a civil rights investigation. what's attorney general holder saying about this? >> well both attorney general eric holder and president obama are casting this case into the broader context. the broader context of the lack of indictment in the michael brown shooting for example and saying that both incidents really underscore the ongoing tensions between minorityies. have, quote, tested the sense of trust that must exist between law enforcement and the communities they are charged to serve and protect. it's against the backdrop the attorney general asked the civil rights loretta lynch, the u.s. attorney in brooklyn nominated to replace holder. last late night, lawmakers, several reacting saying they have confidence in her to
conduct an independent and fast investigation into this death. but i can tell you there is also a civil rights investigation into the death of michael brown, as you know jose. what makes these two instances different is the videotape. legal sources say it's unlikely you will see that in the case of michael brown. it's more likely you could see one in the case of garner. i was talking to top officials at the white house who say they've been in contact overnight with civil rights leaders and so far the protests have been peaceful, continuing to keep a watchful eye continuing to call for those peaceful protests. >> president obama is also calling on the case specifically, right? >> he is. saying this is an ongoing problem. it highlights the fact not enough progress has been made dealing with it. take a listen to what he had to say yesterday.
>> it is incumbent upon all of us as americans, regardless of race region faith, that we recognize this is an american problem and not just a black problem or a brown problem or a native american problem. this is an american problem. when anybody in this country is not being treated equally under the law, that's a problem. >> earlier this week after we learned this wasn't going to be an indictment in the michael brown shooting death, president obama announced a new task force to be headed by philadelphia police commissioner charles ramsey. he wants results of that task force within 90 days. he's also calling for $75 million jose for new body cameras that could get some of these situations on camera on camera in the case like we saw here in the eric garner case. again, the question remains, even if you have video evidence as you saw here there wasn't an
indictment. will they be as effective as the administration thinks they will be. jose. >> joining me now, the son and grandson of nypd officers. pleasure to see you. >> thank you jose. >> you say you disagree with the grand jury's decision why? >> i respect the judicial process. i have tremendous respect for the men and women who serve while sitting in the police department. i don't always agree with everything they do. in this case one individual police officer's actions. have to agree with a decision even a court makes. in this particular case i have eyes. i've looked at that video more than several times. in looking at a person who certainly committed -- can't say certainly, may have been in violation but did not deserve to die. what i saw was a man struggling
to breathe and who expired and had different tactics been used the outcome would have been different. >> congressman along with everybody at home, it's a video that clearly, clearly, when you see that you think, well what is it the grand jury saw or heard or considered different than we've been seeing? >> i think in missouri my hope is the court will decide quickly to release the transcripts of the grand jury investigation. said he had an understanding of what the grand jury did see. but having said that this showed to me at least myself as an average new yorker as a citizen, that unnecessary tactics were used to subdue
mr. garner. my life was taken that day. we didn't -- i don't think communities have lost justice. the justice they feel was taken from them on that day as well. and this result of the grand jury decision that's the sense of the feeling out there. whether it's true or not, that's the perception. perception is the reality. >> president obama tried to reimprove this relationship, including putting body cameras on cops. do you think this is a good idea? >> i think this is something that has to be debated. which has to be up front, on top of the scene. we had an observing camera that showed in detail what took place. so i think that's an aspect of the community policing getting back to the relationship with neighborhoods and communities where police officers know these neighborhoods so well and the individuals themselves.
but i think what's important in this aspect is someone who looks like me who could look at the video who has the experience that i have as you said the son and grandson of new york city police officers who was brought up to respect the officers as well as the same time, i know my rights. my father understood i knew what my rights were. i think that's something that's universal. i also recognize there's an opportunity to really do something about what is broken in the system. this is an opportunity right now. in term of the peaceful protests. not lose this opportunity to bring about the change that's necessary to make sure everyone feels justice is there for all of us and not just the chose be few. >> thank you so much for being with us this morning. we're going to be hearing from your fellow new york congressman charlie rangel in the next hour. nasa's date with destiny
delayed. take a look at this live picture. the orion space capsule. wind and other issues have pushed things back in today's large launch window is about to close. nbc's jay barbury has covered the space program from the grinning and joins us from cape canaveral. pleasure to see you. >> thank you it's nice to be here with you. we may get this off yet today. they got until 44 minutes past hour. a little more than 30 minutes to get it off. this latest problem they have with valves that released the pressure on the fuels. and they're going to make sure everything is working okay. i think the wind problem has more or less gone away. if this all comes together finally this morning, then we can get into space before the end of the 9:44 window. now, once up there, everyone
saying the first brick on the road to mars. well, it is. because the spacecraft since the apollo spacecraft that astronauts will be able to go beyond low earth orbit to go to the moon. on the other side of the moon. eventually to mars. and the 2030s. anyway, they're hoping to get it off at the start of a new era. >> jay, we'll all be watching. thank you. we'll keep a very close eye to see how that goes on this delay that could, as jay says, could still take off today. but year just getting started on this thursday edition of "the rundown." up next, the republican pushback against obama's immigration action. it's what's driving d.c. today. we'll take a look at the fight brewing on the hill. and take a look at today's daily planner. you may hear more from speaker boehner at his weekly briefing at the 11:00 hour. also, keep an eye on a news
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us we will stop president obama's amnesty. what i'm hear urging my fellow republicans to do is very very simple. do what you said you would do. >> msnbc's benji sarlen joins us from washington. what a pleasure to see you. >> good to be here. >> is it going to be cruz against boehner again? >> once again, it is going to be cruz versus boehner. we've seen this pattern before. it was most noticeable during the government shutdown which is republican leaders led by boehner come up with some kind of plan to avoid some dramatic standoff with democrats and they think they have the votes and they think they have consensus. ted cruz rallies conservatives and suddenly that's thrown in. it looks like boehner may have some other options. it certainly sets the tone for the next year. ted cruz isn't going away. and he's not done interfering
with the house's side of business. >> the senator from texas may lose a couple of allies in the house come next january. how does this funding war end? does cruz have enough teeth to stop boehner's plan? >> ted cruz's goal is to prevent boehner from having enough votes to pass a bill funding the government with only republicans. that would force him to either go back and try to get some of those conservatives on his side by maybe taking up cruz's strategy of the funding for department of homeland security or have to turn to democrats. until yesterday, it wasn't clear turning to democrats was a viable option. a lot would prefer to fund the government through the year and get rid of this fight right now. suggested they might be okay with what boehner's trying to do splitting up funding with bills that fund most of the government and then with
national, which handled immigration. he doesn't need all those tea party republicans to pass it. >> let's talk about the yoho bill against the president's actions. you're reporting that the bill had to be kind of toned down a little bit today. what did you mean by that? >> original bill was just two sentences long at the core of it. it was so sweeping as to potentially include a lot of routine legal immigration. this bill was designed to ban obama and assert that -- ban obama's executive and assert he had no ability to do it. could be everything from refugees to victims of domestic violence. but they have retooled it now. it will be different when it comes up for a final vote. >> thank you. we'll be checking in with you in the next hour. after a news conference by democratic leaders on the topic of immigration. so we'll see you soon benji,
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accused of planting a bomb outside an american doctor's home in abu dhabi. caught on surveillance video before and after the attack on ryan inside a bathroom. ebola ryan was a kindergarten teacher and mother of twins who said she wanted to experience the arab world and share her life by living in abu dhabi. the question is whether she was targeted for being an american teacher, something the state department had warned about. paved the way for same sex marng marriages to begin next month. barring any action from the federal court, same section marriages could begin as early as january 5th in florida. we'll keep you updated. to new york where they're mourning the death of the first native puerto rican to become a congressman. he served in the house from 1971 to 1977. when he resigned to become a deputy under new york city mayor
ed koch. longtime friend said he died yesterday from heart disease complications. he was 85 years old. now to wall street where the trading day is about to begin after another record setting day. it's like a broken record around here. cnbc's mandy drury. >> you're absolutely right, every single day we've got to find new and exciting ways to say the market is at a record high. it does sound like a broken record. it's hard to get excited when we're seeing that every single day. but very incrementally. we did get some economic data. we got jobless claims. and that's people seeking u.s. unemployment benefits. last week it slipped below 30,000. which is good obviously. fewer jobless claims is a good thing. however, the fourth-week average which is maybe a better indicator it did rise just a little bit. bottom line, things are getting better with the u.s. economy. we saw that yesterday with the beige book. and tomorrow we've got the big payrolls number. we're expecting about 225,000 jobs were created last month.
so, you know, we're waiting to see what happens tomorrow. that's going to be very market moving. back over to you. >> thank you. we'll be keeping an eye on that opening bell. still ahead on the rundown, we turn back to our coverage of the grand jury decision in the eric garner case and we will drill down on the main difference between this case and ferguson. the indictment for one thing. well everything was caught on camera. plus, the power of social media. #i can't breathe takes off. another live shot from kennedy. they'll give it one last try to get that spaceship ready for blastoff. watching that closely for you.
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you had the specter at least of police self-defense. here, it was none of that. the guy's not acting threatening. with know that. not through testimony, not through unreliable bystanders but because we are watching it. someone taped it. >> emotions around new york and around the country running high after the grand jury decision not to indict. that was comedian jon stewart. a very sober moment of "the daily show" last night, making reference to what many think makes the garner case so different. the presence of video. 14 minutes of video. millions have seen at leetch a portion of that video. you can hear garner telling police 11 times he can't breathe. former prosecutor faith jenkins is here now. how strong is the argument because this video exists there's a better chance of an indictment here? >> i frankly was stunned
yesterday when this announcement came out. we have this video of an unarmed garner. he obviously doesn't want to be arrested. but he's not being threatening. this is someone who's known in the precinct. he's been arrested over 20 times for allegedly selling loosy zbrits s cigarettes which is why the police approached him. this is probably one of the most minor crimes someone can commit in the state of new york. the medical examiner ruled his death to be a homicide. a banned choke hold. a banned procedure by the new york police department. it's all on tape. 11 times saying he cannot breathe. i don't see how you watch that tape and you come to any other conclusion but the police used excessive force and that was the cause of mr. garner's death. the grand jury standard it's not a trial, they're not determining guilt or innocence.
all they're doing is determining a very threshold level of probable cause. is there probable cause that a crime was committed? that's it. even if you look back, look at the rodney king case. the rodney king officers were indicted. and he lived. this man died and it's on video. >> the nypd announced wednesday the pilot program that placed body cameras on 60 officers. people are asking what good does the camera do if this officer, you see it from beginning to end, if that wasn't good enough i guess maybe having five different angles of the event would have what made a difference? >> it's not enough. we were talking about the nypd rolling out this new program. 60 cameras being placed on officers in the precincts where there's the highest rates of stop and frisk. and what's going to happen now, because here we have video. we had a body camera. there was someone there by the
way the young man who taped this entire incident, he's been indict indicted. he's the only one who's been indicted. it's for an unrelated gun charge. the fact that it's all caught. and this is not a ferguson as jon stewart referred in that piece, where you have conflicting witness testimony. a picture's worth a thousand words. the video is there. even the aftermath. when the police officers stood there. when the medical responders came and he wasn't giving aid afterwards. it's actually stunning to know. and what does that tell us about the authority we give police officers and the deference we give police officers and the system of checks and balances that we have in place? i don't know. when we have a grand jury now, looking at these cases, we really have to decide should we bring in a special prosecutor every time a police officer in that community is being investigated for a civilian's death? >> let's talk about social media. i can't breathe has been tweeted
177,000 times. we saw a lot of those hash tags related to this case trending yesterday. how does that aspect relate and building momentum? >> what you're seeing is a lot of young people being involved in this movement. we're seeing a pattern when the victim is african-american or a person of color, the justice is simply not there in all too many of these cases. when you have a case like this what you don't want young people to believe and you don't want to send a message out is when police officers act they're above the law, when they act outside of their duties and responsibility. >> appreciate your type. apparently they had about until
44 after, about ten minutes from now, but jay has an update. what happened? >> jose they will not be trying again today. they'll attempt to go again tomorrow morning. they'll start this all over again. it's been one thing or another all morning long. but they just couldn't get the job done today. >> jay, what happened? >> well the last thing here they had trouble with the valves. when they shut them down they did not work properly. the fuel systems, liquid hydrogen, liquid nitrogen. what they do is they shut everything off when they launch.
they need this to keep the fuel rolling when they get into space and under weightless condition and all. it's just part of the technical work they have to go through here. so everything has to work precisely. they're pretty good at it now. they generally don't have these kind of problems. this today for some reason it's been one, the winds, it's been one little thing after another. >> what's it scheduled to do? what's its mission? >> what everybody is saying here, it's the first step on the road to mars. what it is orion spacecraft is 2 1/2 times larger than the apollo spacecraft which was the last spacecraft we had capable of leaving earth orbit. and the last one came back december 19th.
gene cernen commanded that mission. he was the last astronaut on the moon. so everybody thought, well we'll be back going into deep space before that. but it's been four decades. they're trying to get back in. they got the approval of the program. they're building a huge issue rocket that will be ready to go in 2013. eventually the largest rocket they ever built. even bigger than the saturn 5 that went to the moon. but they need this to go in increments to deep space. to go back to the moon beyond the moon, to investigate asteroids, jose and eventually they can go to other places within the solar system. it's getting the human race where it can leave this planet will no longer support it for various reasons. >> jay barbury, pleasure thank you so much. >> thank you, sir, bye-bye. >> up next on "the rundown,"
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and i have to depend on public assistance decide if i'm going to buy pampers and wipes, saying no to my child. you know, being a single mom is hard especially to a special need child. my daughter she is 2. she suffers from hearing loss and epilepsy, you know, that's why i depend on public assistance because i cannot afford her medication she needs for her to get better. i cannot afford the doctor's appointments. i cannot afford anything. when i went to the doctor and the doctor told me she got to have a tube replacement surgery. and they have public assistance you know, they look at it like, you know, it's not that important. so they postpone her surgery, january 6 of this next year so my daughter have like suffered with the pain. if i had, like benefits through the job, you know, better
benefits, i think our appointment would be much sooner. you know i work so hard and i sweat and work hard. like three people slave and making billions of dollars. and have to suffer, you know not pay bills, not pay with, you know, a better school to fit my daughter's needs. >> how many hours a week do you get to work? >> right now, i'm working less than 20 hours. less than 20 hours. >> yesterday, chicago mayor rahm emanuel said the minimum wage hike is meant to account for the cost of living. but not all of the raises do that. explain that. >> right now, the federal minimum wage is $7.25 an hour. many other states have minimum wages that are above that. they don't go up to account for the cost of living. something the fast food movement has done in the last two years since it started is the idea of a $15 an hour minimum wage was
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it has been two weeks since president obama announced his immigration action but it's two big texas politicians who are leading the republican response for the nation's capital. senator ted cruise two things are clear. our immigration system is broken and must be fixed. second, the constitution prescribes immigration be fixed by congress not by presidential fiat. >> joining me a crucial voice hailing from texas, democratic congressman. pleasure to see you. >> thank you. a pleasure to be with you again.
>> a lot of action coming out of texas, no surprise. 17 states a lot of states including two with democratic governors signing onto this lawsuit. does this hold mustard in court you think? >> i don't think so i think the court already said the supreme court already said when it comes to the executive branch they have a lot of flexibility in enforcing immigration law. so that's one thing. by the way, the president, republican presidents have used the executive order. that's one option. i prefer a bipartisan approach where democrats and republicans get together, work it out, do immigration reform. as you know it is not going to go away. for people to think this issue will go away it is not. so it is better to go ahead and address it. finally, the other thing is we're not unique in the united states. we have people moving in for economic reasons, the reasons
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are you concerned that maybe 5 million people the president has legalized and could come out from the shadows could see this situation threatened in the future that this could be taken back? >> i understand that the numbers are different, 1.5 million compared to 5 million, those numbers are different, but the action itself the executive action, that's been done before. people need to look at the executive actions that have been used. i agree, the numbers are different. now, keep in mind you use the word legalize. again, the president cannot put a new classification or give him status all he can do is give a prepreef. the new president coming in could change it. congress could pass a bill and change it if congress would stop putting so much effort trying to defund the immigration department like they're trying and put that same type of energy
into coming up with a common sense solution we would do something. i think this is what the american public want us to do. they want to see us sit down work it out. >> i'm glad congressman, you bring up the importance of words, because indeed it is about legalization for a three-year period, it is not amnesty. every time you see legalization some come up with amnesty, fireworks go off, smoke comes out of people's ears. this is about legalizing people who have u.s. important children or u.s. resident children. let's talk about the funding fight going on. do you see senator cruz getting enough support to stop boehner's plan? >> if the republicans depend only on republican votes, he will win. but there's enough democrats willing to work together there's some democrats are not going to support what they're doing, the 11 plus 1, the cr in
the bill if we can get democrats and republicans working together, we can hopefully get it done. again, it's something that as you can see, it has to take a bipartisan approach. that's the way we get things done. the extreme left extreme right, those fringes of right and left are causing a lot of problems we are seeing right now, jose. >> is there something that you and others democrats and republicans, can accomplish other than the work that you put in for more than four years, among others can accomplish something, not just present. is that possible? >> yes, jose that's an excellent question. listen there are members, you know like ee lana like jose bartlett, a lot of folks trying to get things done. right now unfortunately for the next week or so you're going to see some messaging. hopefully when we come back we
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the house will vote this afternoon on the amnesty prevention act from florida republican congressman. his bill being presented and going to be voted on this afternoon. watching new york, we learned in two hours we expect to hear from the police union that represents the officer in the eric garner case. the union president will address the media the day after the grand jury decided not to indict daniel pantaleo on the death of garner. >> i am not surprised, but he should have been indicted and i really feel disappointed. >> wrong decision should have lost his job, fired, arrested everything. >> i am truly upset. i have grown sons you know i fear for their life as well. god forbid they get caught doing something wrong. >> protested across the country following that announcement.
in new york police arrested 83 people as thousands gathered on the streets to voice their frustration. msnbc's trymaine lee is in staten island. >> good morning. >> what is garner's family saying? >> moments ago, eric garner's mother was at the spot where her son was killed. she said through it all she's blessed and thankful for all the support not just here in new york but across the country. she hopes the doj investigation will give them a just result. she questioned whether body cameras would do anything here in new york. there's a program, running a pilot program on body cameras. she said the grand jury saw everything on video, still couldn't come to conclusion that would mean justice for them. last night i believe his wife had something to say. do we have that video? >> no, i don't accept his apology. i don't care less about his
condolences, he is still getting a paycheck feeding his kids. and my husband is six feet under. i am looking for a way to feed my kids now. >> as you heard eric garner's wife say, she is not taking any kind of condolence doesn't do anything for their family. the mother says they have other avenues. we have to assume there's a civil suit coming. the family is in a tu mutt of emotion and mourning there is hope that people in new york city are fighting for justice, that there may be another investigation that will give justice. they're turning through the process, even though it is early going. >> trymaine lee, thank you so much. let me bring in justice correspondent pete williams. good morning. >> good morning, jose. >> comparisons have been made to the ferguson case but the cases are different. how likely the new york case is
more likely to result in a federal case? >> well it is very hard to say, but i think the answer would be more likely. not definite will you there are very different circumstances here. the test in the federal law is whether a police officer intentionally used excessive force, knowing it was wrong. now that's a very high standard to prove, nonetheless has been used successfully in the past. the differences here are striking. number one, there's video of the event. that makes a big difference because you have a prosecutor would have a lot of advantage in terms of the video being cold hard evidence not dependent on witness memory. you had that in multiple ways in ferguson with this wide variety of witness accounts of whether he had his hands up or not, whether he was retreating whether he was coming forward. that's a big advantage. and you do have a lot more
witnesses. you have the fact that in new york there was a policy against using choke holds. it's just income prabl. >> would the doj have put her in charge of civil rights division in washington if they thought they could not make a case? >> yes, absolutely. there's no question that she's very eager to proceed with this case. there will have been perhaps some people at the white house thinking gee, she's nominated to be attorney general, maybe she should stay clear of this. she doesn't want to stay clear of this at all. she will be very much in charge. it is the normal way of proceeding in an office like in brooklyn where you have a lot of experienced prosecutors, you have a good number of fbi agents. so the fact she's in charge by no means indicates it is any kind of a lower priority for the justice department.
i don't think that the civil rights division could get it away from her. >> our justice correspondent pete williams in washington thank you. let me bring in new york congressman charlie rangel. good morning. >> good morning. >> how do you interpret the grand jury decision, what are your constituents telling you? >> it is impossible to believe. we are involved whether you talk about department of justice or what happened in staten island with a search for the truth. if we were just to look at this and see a half dozen people in uniform, surrounding a person of color, saying please don't kill me, i can't breathe, then they go into a room a grand jury room and say that nobody did anything wrong, this just is shocking thing to happen. so we're going to find out what happened in that room. but there are two big things
here. we have to admit as a country, as a great country, that we have a problem of racism in this country. that's the long term problem. in the short term we have to say if you're standing by when someone is committing a crime, whether or not you're in uniform or not, you have a moral and legal obligation to step forward. the whole idea of giving immunity to those people that was witness in a violent act doesn't make any sense at all. >> congressman, i'm thinking the president talked about this the mayor of new york is bringing in 60 cameras for cops but camera didn't make much difference here because we got to see it. >> you bet your life. a whole lot of white kids saying black kids today, could be me tomorrow. we're talking now about freedom of expression but this is not only a constitutional right, we're talking about a moral
right to live in a country without fear of being unfairly attacked, whether people are in uniform or not. i don't understand why the spiritual community heard their voice in the civil rights community, why the silence not to indict policemen, but to look at somebody and have a dual standard in how they're treated because of their language their accent or their color. this is morally wrong. the rules we make should come from that. >> we have spoken about this in the past. conversations like this that are touchy, tough to talk about, don't occur in our country and society until something bad happens. where is this conversation going when something like this isn't
happening, because it is only when the conversation continues that we can get any real progress. >> and where it should start is when a kid is born. it amazes me, we can say and no one can challenge, when a child is born in this country or any place in the world, it has no idea who to hate who to discriminate against, which color is popular, which color is not. it is us that makes people like this. and we have to admit it is the wrong thing to do. >> yeah. look there's a saying, children are a message to the future. what's the message to the children. >> we can't point fingers at other countries and ignore the fact that we have a problem here. can we overcome it tomorrow? no it's going to take a long time because it's hard to explain how we can take human beings, treat them like animals, have them as slaves and it took
a long time to get to the point that we recognize that we had civil rights and voting rights and so it is going to take some time but you cannot win this thing from a moral standpoint unless you admit that you have this problem. and so i'm hopeful that as we see mixed people coming out saying this is wrong that we will find police officers and others say don't put me there because we know we can't live without the dedication and courage of law enforcement's people. >> that's right. >> and the risk that they take. but when they stand by and see among themselves people that are violating people's human rights they should be made to stand up and to say that's the wrong thing to do. >> congressman charlie rangel from new york thank you. >> thank you jose. coming up an alarming advancement for isis. it happened overnight in syria as a new video emerges, threatening to execute a british american journalist. but first, a live look at calmer
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significant progress. >> i don't agree we made significant progress in the fight against isis. it is an important fight, that we must be victorious in. i don't see that we're bringing in the coalition the way we should. i don't think we have trained or armed the rebels that are going to fight isis as we said we would. they put out a press release, it is not enough against the growing men as. more important fighters are getting in there. we had a subcommittee hearing about the amount of foreign fighters coming from the middle east and west to join the fight alongside isis. it is incredible. we are not winning this yet. >> how are they getting in and able to do this? >> we need to talk to our supposed allies and get them to
at least make sure they're taking some action against these fighters. going into syria, going into iraq. they're helping fuel the fighting. we have good folks on the ground like the curds willing to take the fight to isis. not saying we're going to have our own boots on the ground but we talked about and authorized a training the opposition overseas. there's been not one person trained so far. we talked and passed authorization to give them weapons. we have heard other leaders and other military situations say you can't win a war with blankets. the ukraine president said to us in relation to russia's aggressions, that can be applied in the fight against syria, against isis in syria. we have to be more aggressive, humanitarian aid is good but it is not going to beat isis.
>> congresswoman, we also got word that isis is setting up training camps in eastern libya. what do you make of this? >> we thought libya was a mission accomplished. and then we had benghazi we saw this white house wanted a political narrative saying everything was great in libya, and what we've seen is we're about to lose libya, iraq and syria as we know are hell on earth, and it won't stop there. lebanon and just this week we met with the leader of jordan he is very worried about the stability of his kingdom. isis is not going to stop. they don't recognize any borders. today it is iraq and syria, but it's also libya, and it's also other terrorist networks. you were just talking about a story about a journalist at al qaeda in yemen, this jihadist
network, we have to defeat them all. >> congressman, i want to turn to eye rab. state department officials will talk to lawmakers to argue against new sanctions against iran. you feel differently. how do you make your case? >> well i think that it is important to put more sanctions, additional even tougher sanctions against iran. that is the only way that we can pressure iran into giving up its nuclear infrastructure. i think the administration is negotiating a very bad, a very weak nuclear deal that will make us less safe. i will be meeting with the ambassador of israel to the united states, ron dermer later this afternoon, going to talk about what we can do in congress about strengthening sanctions. this is not the time to let up. this is the time to make sure eye ron dismantles its entire nuclear infrastructure. no ballistic missiles to deliver the nukes. we have to keep our allies and our country safe.
and making sure that iran has no nuclear weapons is the way to do it. >> congresswoman, thank you so much. >> thank you, jose. >> nbc's richard engel has been living in the middle east. he joins me from new york. good to see you. >> good to be with you. >> back to luke summers. what more can you tell us about him? >> well luke summers is unfortunately becoming the model of the kind of journalist activist who's getting picked up by al qaeda and isis. they're not the only ones but his story has sort of become quite representative. he moved out to the middle east he initially wanted to be a teacher, then when trouble started in yemen, he moved to yemen, a fascinating country, an interesting country, seeing a lot of instability the last several years, as has been the case across the region. as trouble started, he picked up a camera became a photojournalist, and just about a year ago was picked up on the
streets by an al qaeda affiliate, one of the most powerful groups in fact. and we haven't heard much about him until late last month, a few weeks ago. there was a commando raid u.s. special operations forces using yemeni ground troops moved in to try to rescue him and he wasn't there. they managed to rescue some yemeni and saudi nationals, since they didn't get him it was a failed operation. and then overnight we saw this video which i think is al qaeda's response. the video gave him three days to live, unless the u.s. bends to al qaeda's demands, which seems very unlikely. he was taken, then the u.s. special operations tried to find him, and then i think this is al qaeda's way of taunting special operations, saying you missed your man, now he has three days
to live. >> richard engel, thank you so much. appreciate it. coming up we have much more on the political side of the fight against isis. we frame the war powers debate straight ahead. and much more on the reaction to no indictment in the case of eric garner. a little protest footage shot by run-down producer justin oliver in times square. (vo) nourished. rescued. protected. given new hope. during the subaru "share the love" event, subaru owners feel it, too. because when you take home a new subaru we donate 250 dollars to helping those in need. we'll have given 50 million dollars over seven years. love. it's what makes a subaru a subaru.
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that move caused his death. part of the reform calls for the relationship between police officers and prosecutors, the conversations began after the other failed indictment in ferguson, and now calls are being made for a complete overhaul of the grand jury process. for that part of the conversation, i am joined by ari melber, lawyer and co-host of the cycle, and james peterson, director of african-american studies at lehigh. talk about the relationship between prosecutors and police. what is it about that that rubs people the wrong way. >> great question. the issue is that most days the prosecutor gets up and works hand in glove with these officers. they are the witnesses, they are the investigators, they prove these cases. in many places around the country, prosecutors tell you they couldn't do their work couldn't even uphold their oath of office to protect, serve, enforce the law without local officers. and yet every so often they're
then asked we in the current system are asking them to do something that would be difficult i have to say for anyone in any job, turn around and take people you rely on most we talk about life and death circumstances in the case of police and prosecute them put them in jail. that's a hard spot. it is not so much that people are necessarily trying to do something bad, you see them pursue cases in a way, a fair reading doesn't seem to pursue indictment. and that's why people are saying maybe you need independent special prosecutors in the case of police misconduct. >> james, how does this close relationship feed into the distrust seen between police and minority communities? >> makes people reascribe the narrative that the process is rigged. ari is right, this is a big ask, not to let the grand jury processes off the hook we need
to better understand what's happening here. we need either a separate processor an overhaul of the grand jury process for these particular cases, cases with alleged police misconduct particularly where it leads to the death or murder of an unarmed civilian, we have to have a different process for that because we're asking too much out of that grand jury process. for communities under siege by the police for the communities with the most police brutality, with a lot of stop and risk too many unarmed civilians being killed, this reascribes the narrative that we can't trust the system that justice doesn't work for our communities not in these cases or other cases. it is unfortunate. this is why you see so much civil unrest in response to that garner piece. >> give us historical context why the grand juries exist and operate the way they do. >> you use the term jury. it is a meeting of selected citizens and the prosecutor. there is no judge, there's no
defense attorney. there are not rules of transparency that you have in a normal jury court situation where you say you deserve a day in court. that's not the court we're talking about. historically, it was designed to provide some secret private check on the prosecutor's power, that prosecutors wouldn't have the unitary power to indict someone. we know an indictment is a big deal, it changes your life if you get a serious criminal indictment long before it is determined whether you're guilty or innocent. it was a check where the prosecutor had to present in a private meeting setting to citizens, saying i want to make sure you agree with me here's the evidence here is why we want to move to trial. as many pointed out, that check doesn't operate as much barrier for any prosecutor serious about getting an indictment, that's because at the end of the day, it is just a meeting, the prosecutor gets a great presumption of power. he or she is the expert. jurors are the amateurs. when they say here is what i
got, i got this evidence i got this drug material. i got this examiner's report in a case like this if they wanted to i've got this video, here is what it means, they press their case 99% of the time literally, a federal grand jury returns the indictments requested. >> quickly, on the other hand it is in the hands of regular folks. >> it is. but the reality is that regular folks have biases too. we are critical of racial biases in the criminal justice system when you look at stops and stop and frisk, death row numbers. any number in the criminal justice system you see racial gaps. the same biases that inform the criminal justice system inform everyday citizens. the grand jury process is not immune from racial biases that contaminate the justice system to begin with. >> briefly jose it is in their hands, but not in a way the rest of us can see.
that's why folks on both sides say let's go to trial. then the police officer can make his case. he is entitled to presumption of innocence in our system. the notion that we have some prosecutors doing something different when it comes to police misconduct holding a mini trial in secret, that's a question a lot of people are asking the right question whether we want to continue that. >> ari melber james peterson thanks for being with me. catch ari and fellow cyclists weekdays at 3:00 p.m. now to the debate over war. senator rand paul one of several lawmakers that want congress to vote on the war with isis before the holiday break, even though president obama says he doesn't need congressional approval senator paul went on "hardball" and said lawmakers have to get a say. >> it is probably the most important responsibility that any legislator should ever have to send a young man or woman into harm's way. our founding fathers were clear on this. james madison wrote the
executive branch is the branch most prone to war, therefore we have vested the power of war in the legislature. george washington was adamant about this jefferson was adamant about this. this is not a function that the president can unilaterally weigh in on. >> here to frame the debate jimmy williams executive editor of blue nation review and msnbc contributor, and chris wilson conservative polster and political analyst. jimmy, start with you. why not let congress weigh in now until waiting to next year? >> we're already there. listen, i'm just astonished. i will profess this nationally on tv i agree with rand paul. that doesn't happen very often. and so when it does listen they went home before christmas break, knowing full well we were sending more and more -- that we were going to do more on the issue of isis.
in 2013, senator -- this is an actual threat. that stems from beheadings and public outcry and being scared of things on our soil. congress should vote. war is an important issue. the president commands the troops, congress funds the troops. i think what rand paul is doing is dead on. i checked with the whip's office, they're going to vote on it before they leave. it is great. >> there's a divide among democrats what to do on getting the united states more involved in the fight against isis. but foreign policy cuts the gop in potential gop candidates folks like rand paul ted cruz want the u.s. to play a small role, others like jeb bush say we can't withdraw from the world. is this dividing the republican party? >> i don't think it is yet. that's kind of the issue. right now what you have is republicans united after what happened with immigration order
from obama. you have him exercising imperial presence in ways that presidents like richard nixon and lyndon baines johnson wouldn't have considered. from that good to see someone like paul and other constitutional scholars that exist, mike lees ted cruz come forward, say we're going to take this back. should be three co-equal branches of government and we are going to reestablish that. how this plays out in terms of the future i don't know if this is a one time side show with relation to isis or the first of many constitutional battles as we move to a republican controlled senate. that's what will be interesting to watch. >> and interesting to see about hillary clinton, how do you think she's handling the public persona, as far as isis and foreign policy? >> i don't know i haven't had a conversation with her or her aids. i can tell you she's going to have to at some point put down a position on this. she will declare whether she's running or not in the middle of january. that's what i am hearing from the staff. and if she does run, we're going
to ask. we and the press want to know what her position on the middle east is and specifically on the threat of isis. i think, listen if you're going to run for president, whether democrat or republican, you need to have a position. i welcome what she will have to say. i welcome how the republicans are completely divided on this issue, and they are. especially those running for president. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. look at this. it may appear to be a beautiful field of flowers. but up next we'll tell you how these flowers are linked to a major drug problem here in the united states. first, a quick shoutout to the philadelphia 76ers that won their first game of the season broke a 17 game losing streak last night. 2009 nets hold the record for the worst season opening with 18 consecutive losses. ♪ we asked people a question how much money do you think you'll need when you retire? then we gave each person a ribbon to show how many years that amount might last. i was trying to like, pull it a little
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there's a bill on the floor today that will say no, mr. president, you don't have that authority. ladies and gentlemen the supreme court is over there. the court system in this city is down the street. that is not the court system. that is the legislative body. >> that was democratic whip steny hoyer taking aim at the republican bill we know will get a vote in the house later this afternoon against the president's executive actions. "the washington post" is reporting that the white house is teaming up with democrats to form an immigration strike team to counter that push back. this happens as senator ted cruz takes aim at speaker boehner's plan to avoid another government shutdown. benji, talk to me about this vote. what is in this bill? >> this bill has been revised, but essentially this is the
vehicle for house republicans to express their did he say pleasure with president obama's executive action. it asserts that president obama doesn't have the authority to exempt undocumented immigrants from removal categorically, with some caveats for humanitarian reasons, for law enforcement reasons, but some conservatives are unhappy with this. it is a bit of a test vote. ted cruz was railing against meaningless show votes. some conservatives are worried this doesn't do much it isn't attacked too much, funding for the government that may make democrats worry about opposing it risking partial government shutdown. it is an interesting test case. they clearly think they have the votes if bringing it up today, there will be conservative opposition likely. >> appears democrats and the white house are teaming up to respond to gop attacks like this one. what does this say ahead of what is a republican controlled house and senate next year?
>> democrats are definitely planning how to get the message out on immigration. it is a very different dynamic than a few weeks ago when a lot of democratic senators who were up for election and ultimately lost had to distance themselves from the immigration action, because they were running in conservative states. now that that's over they have opportunity to sell it not just to the public but to especially the latino and agency and immigrant communities that they really are hoping it will appeal to. even though there may be strong opposition from the right. >> thank you very much appreciate it. >> thank you. talk about heroin, the number of addicts estimated up to a half million, a number that's grown steadily since 2007. while federal authorities say that most of the heroin in the u.s. is produced in mexico along the u.s. east coast, the illegal drug comes mainly from colombia.
>> reporter: to get to the heart of the heroin epidemic we join colombian national police and dea for an armed black hawk helicopter ride. we travel deep into the rugged andes mountains, a remote area heavily patrolled by insurgent gorillas. we land on a mountain top, pile out of the chopper with four police chiefs and sheriffs from the state of maryland who want to see where the heroin supplies threatening their streets originate. >> they destroyed our community, destroyed and decimated families up and down the east coast. >> reporter: we go on a slippery high altitude trail under the eyes of peasant farmers. we come along a poppy field awaiting harvest. they're grown in plots high in the andes mountains, about
10,000 feet. agents say these plots are scattered throughout the region but are very hard to find. to make heroin each of the poppy bulbs is sliced to extract the milky substance known as latex, which is processed in small, homemade labs. >> this bumper crop of four acres will produce about a kilo of heroin for you. >> reporter: the processed heroin is smuggled to the u.s. through central america and mexico or by air and sea routes in the caribbean. eventually ending up in american cities along the eastern seaboard. >> and mark potter joins me in miami. few people have been able to go to these places. tell me what you learned. >> it is hard to work at 10,000 feet of altitude huffing and puffing. felt 100 years old. this stuff is grown in very remote areas. way out there in the andes, miles, hundreds of miles from
civilization and it shows the lengths to which traffickers go to grow and process this stuff bound for the united states. >> once it gets to the united states where does it go? >> it typically ends up on the east coast. the rest of the country gets the heroin processed in mexico. traditionally on the atlantic seaboard, comes from colombia. when it hits the u.s. shoreline, it goes from the street corners to the suburbs. shooting galleries to schools. it goes everywhere up and down the coast. and there's so much of it. >> what's the explosion due to? >> due to the fact that pills are harder to get now, so people are seeking an opiate substitute. there's so much of it they're seeing it in record amounts. prices are lower than ever before. a kilogram 15 years ago sold for $165,000 take out the 100,000, it is only 65,000, $10 a bag. purity levels were 3 to 5%.
now there's so much that the purity level is 80% heroin on the streets. that means it is more powerful more dangerous, more addictive. and that shows the flow coming into the u.s. >> from beginning to end, who controls all this network, mark? >> it is largely controlled by mexican traffickers, the colombians grow their version of it, then they get it through the system in mexico also dominican traffickers are involved in processing, in supplying the colombian version of heroin. >> most of it gets to the united states who transports it how is it organized? >> it gets here primarily through the actions of mexican traffickers, but then goes into the hands of gangs. dominican gangs in new england, mexican gangs, american gangs, in chicago, 100,000 people in chicago, gang members involved in distributing it there. then it gets into the hands of kids in schools.
it spreads out. but it starts with mexican traffickers, and there's more of it coming. >> mark don't people know how addicting and devastating this is? >> it is a lesson that has to be learned over and over. a lot of young people look at heroin as if it were a club drug. and they don't realize what we learned in the '60s and '70s about how devastating it is. it is highly addictive, hard to get off of. >> it is a killer. >> it is an absolute killer. >> mark potter thank you. great work. switching gears here. surely you heard by now, live presentation of "peter pan" airs tonight on nbc. that gets us thinking why is peter pan usually played by a female? we explore in five things. here is what the newest pan, allison williams has to say about this controversy. >> who wants to take a shot at explaining why this role has almost always professionally been played by a women? >> we just talked about that. talking about how hard it is to
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peter pan is british. so i worked up an accent. >> former 30 rock star jane kra krou ski, vying for a spot in peter pan live. williams is not the first but the fifth to play the boy. here are five in five things pan. number one, the first, betty bronson played him in 1924. number two, mary martin playing pan on broadway then on nbc to a record 65 million viewers. a lot of people who never want to grow up. number three, sandy duncan brought the role back to
broadway in 1979 at the age of 33 earning a tony nomination for her role as peter in 1980. number four kathy rigby. here she is flying in 2004. she first played that role at age 21 in 1974. she played that role of pan off and on for 40 years until just last year. that's a lot of fairy dust. number five if there's one man to put on the list, has to be the late robin williams playing pan as an adult in 1991. ever was a man that embodied the spirit of peter pan, it was robin williams. watch that tonight on nbc. is it going to be sap in spanish? may be catch it. that wraps up the rundown. thank you for the privilege of your time. next on news nation more fallout after the grand jury didn't indict the police officer in the eric garner choke hold case. tamron talks to the head of the
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good morning, everyone. i am tamron hall. this is news nation. more demonstrations are planned today after a massive show of peaceful protests in new york city and cities across this country overnight. following the grand jury decision not to indict the officer who put eric garner in a choke hold leading to his death. thousands of protesters gathered in locations across manhattan, including the west side highway where traffic was at a virtual stand still at one point. this was the scene at grand central station at the height of rush hour where demonstrators silently staged a die in where they laid motionless on the ground for several minutes. a crowd up to 300 protesters gathered at times square yesterday evening and marched towards rockefeller center where