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i'm ed schultz. "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton starts now. >> thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, you are looking at live photos of a protest in downtown new york city after a grand jury declined to indict the officer who used a chokehold on eric garner. all over the country, peaceful protests have erupted calling for change. and it comes as we're learning more about the officer's grand jury testimony and what he said behind closed doors, including his claim he didn't place a chokehold on eric garner. "the new york times" reporting, quote, it was never supposed to be a chokehold, the officer testified. it was a wrestling move. and quote officer pantaleo testified that when he put his hands on mr. garner, he was
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employing a maneuver taught to him at the police academy. remember, the medical examiner found eric garner's death was a homicide caused in part by a chokehold, a move banned by the nypd. today the officer's attorney explained it this way. >> when they go to the ground, although his arm is technically around the neck, the crook of his neck is not putting any pressure on any portion of his neck at all. he stabilizes himself. puts his hand on his head to avoid him from any injury from any of the other officers, as well as to avoid him -- to avoid mr. garner from either biting or spitting at anybody. >> so that's the claim. eric garner was a threat to bite or spit, even though he was surrounded by five officers and saying i can't breathe. the "times" also reports the
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officer, quote, insisted that he tried to disengage as quickly as he could. well, here's what the video shows. >> i can't breathe. i can't breathe. i can't breathe. i can't breathe. >> once again, police beating up on people. >> back up and get on the steps. >> this case has become a rallying cry across the country, especially here in new york where protesters under way. there's videotape showing what happened. here is what this comes down to. i believe the system needs to be fixed. from the beginning, i called for federal intervention. there's a conflict with loyal prosecutors dealing with local police. a prosecutor depends on the local police for all of their cases. this is a national crisis, and
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there must be a national response. joining me now, former prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst judge fey jenkins, dr. lawrence kobilinsky, a forensic scientist and professor at john jay college of criminal justice. and mark claxton, former new york police officer and director of the black law enforcement alliance. thank you all for being here. >> sure, thanks. >> is the system broken? >> obviously, when it doesn't work, there's a problem with the process. it's time for us to re-examine the process. the officer can say it was a wrestling move, it wasn't a chokehold. he can describe it however he wants to describe it. the medical examiner said it was a chokehold. and it was the cause of death. eric garner said 11 times he could not breathe and that officer continued to apply pressure. even when he finally released his neck, what was the purpose
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of him mashing his head down into the concrete appearing to apply all of his body pressure on his head, despite being subdued and surrounded by all of those police officers. every time you show the video, i look at it and say it's just shameful. >> dr. kobilinsky, "the times" also reported the officer said he heard eric garner say, i can't breathe as judge faith just quoted. they say at the same time mr. garner's ability to speak, the officer testified, suggested that he could, in fact, could breathe. what's your read on that? >> i think if the airway was completely obstructed, he could not speak. you can't get air through the vocal cord so you can't speak. if it's partially obstructed or compression on the chest or other things, essentially you would have a lot of trouble breathing, but you could speak. >> you could speak?
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>> you could speak. >> so what are they suggesting? i can only breathe 10%? >> frankly, i think if you have somebody in that situation and he says i can't breathe, police should be rendering first aid, cpr, and calling ems for a quick response. >> now mark claxton, i also see the report saying that he disengaged as quickly as he can. what we see on the video, they are sitting on top of him, pressing him down to the ground. you were a police officer for many years here in new york. is that an immediate disengagement? >> absolutely not. as a matter of fact, reverend sharpton, much of what is coming out of the attorney's mouth and some of the written statements even by pantaleo, it's more a case of, are you going to believe me or your lying eyes. we've seen what occurred there.
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we've seen quite clearly that there was a stranglehold and a choke being applied. and it really is insulting to everyone's intelligence and it's an insult to professional policing to come up with these excuses and rationalizations for what we all saw and what is obvious and known and established by scientific fact. >> what was the cause of death, dr. kobilinsky? >> i believe -- i haven't seen the autopsy report. inn fortunately, it hasn't been released yet. but i do believe the medical examiner talked about a couple of things. first of all, the chokehold. secondly, the prone position. could have been what we call a positional asphyxia, and thirdly, compression of the chest, also known as burking. the way people normally breathe is the muscles of the diaphragm as well as the muscles within the ribs, what they do is they raise the chest up and outward.
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that causes an expansion of the chest cavity and the lungs open up, and air comes in. if you prevent the chest from expanding and moving upward, you can't breathe. you have a big problem. you can go unconscious in a matter of seconds. death -- irreversible brain death can occur in a matter of five, six minutes. >> given that, did the prosecutor look at this? how could all of this not be raised to the grand jury or the fact that it's secret and we don't know what was raised is part of why i think it's broken. >> we don't know exactly -- >> we do know, let me just say this, we know the grand jury, 23 members of the grand jury sat nine weeks. the judge released that today. do we need more transparency? >> this is not enough information. people deserve -- first of all, his family deserves an explanation. and people deserve an
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explanation when you can look at that kind of egregious behavior taking place in broad daylight on the streets of this city by the people who are supposed to protect and serve, people deserve an explanation because that video, and we've had cases before where we've had video evidence, look at rodney king. we've had other cases. but in that case there was at least an indictment. and rodney king lived. eric garner is dead. >> and what you just said about those witnesses. what did those witnesses say? all of those exhibits? what did they show. that's what we need to know. >> why did it take four months if it was that simple. doctor, he says it wasn't a chokehold. this is the new line. he says it was a wrestling maneuver. >> there are different kinds of chokeholds. there's a chokehold where the airway is blocked. there's a chokehold which
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compresses the jugular and corotted arteries which prevents blood from rushing to the brain and a combination of the two. then you have other kinds of holds which are meant to take somebody home. a wrestling hold. jiujit jiujitsu. they use different holds around the neck. essentially if you stop somebody from breathing or you stop blood from flowing to the brain, that person is going to become unconscious in seconds. and his life is in danger. if they use -- >> and it's a chokehold? >> if they use a chokehold at the level of the larnyx, you can break the hyoid bone. you can just crush the larnyx. it's not good. >> mark claxton, the officer pantaleo has been the subject of civil rights lawsuits before. this is the officer in question
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here. in an incident from february 2012, he was accused of making a false arrest and incarceration. the case remains open. in march gent 2012, he was accuf an illegal strip search. the nypd settled the suit for $30,000. you're an officer and have been on the streets. this guy has had some accusations before. now he comes, despite the medical examiner and says it wasn't a chokehold. he's allowed to go in the grand jury. no adversarial opposition there. how are you as one who has been on the streets as a police in new york, assess this. this guy, on tape, taking down, five guys around, and kept holding him while he was saying, i can't breathe. is that normal or necessary policing, mark claxton? >> that is not normal, nor is it necessary. please allow me to take the adversarial position and tell you that both the attorney who indicated that that warrant a chokehold and the officer
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indicated that in the grand jury, they are both liars. let's be clear about that right off the bat. in addition to that there is no training in the nypd because chokeholds are expressly prohibited and have been since '93. there is no active or ongoing training in nypd that allows or promotes wrapping your arm around someone's neck for the obvious dangers. this occurred with anthony baez several years ago. and from that point forward, chokeholds are illegal. and that was a chokehold. and something else that disturbs me and may come into play when talking about these other allegations that exist, is the lack of supervision. the lack of punishment. there's no penalty effective and quick penalty for when officers are committing offenses against civilians. that's problematic. you can't move forward without there being a penalty. has to be a carrot and then the stuck. someone has to be willing to use that stick. >> i'm out of time, but we
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talked there needs to be more transparency. all the officers were given immunity but pantaleo. >> we still don't know the raeb reason for that. >> that's unusual. >> all those officers stood by and some of them actually participated and the rest of them stood by. his supervisor was there. yrp they given immunity? especially now that this officer wasn't indicted with this evidence. >> i feel the system is broken. we need to fix it. faith jenkins, dr. lawrence kobilinsky and mark claxton, thank you for your time tonight. straight ahead -- will there are federal charges against the officer? an investigation is under way. and protests under way in new york city and across the nation. this is the scene in baltimore. protests happening there as well. also in chicago, people filling the streets to march for justice. [ breathing deeply ]
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we're back with live pictures of peaceful protests under way here in new york city and around the country. people want their voices heard. it is also dominating social media. here's a photo posted from penn state university showing the school's president and students. that photo sparked posted tweets that's all over social media. you can see the spike in eric garner related hash tags. still u.s. trends more than 24 hours later. and that made sure this case got
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prosecutors will conduct an independent, thorough, fair and expeditious investigation. you've all seen the video of mr. garner's arrest. his death, of course, was a tragedy. all lives must be valued. >> a federal investigation is under way. will the officer be charged? here's part of what investigators will look at. eric garner was unarmed. the officer used a chokehold banned by the police department. garner says he couldn't breathe 11 times. the medical examiner ruled his death a homicide. and the entire altercation is on tape. there's a high bar for federal charges. but we have seen it before. in the rodney king case, the officers were acquitted by a jury in state court. but a federal grand jury returned an indictment for violating civil rights. and 20 years ago here in new
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york, anthony baez was killed when an officer used a chokehold on him during an attempted arrest. the officer was found not guilty at trial but later convicted on federal charges of violating -- for violating civil rights. where does this federal investigation go and what might a federal case look like? joining me, former u.s. attorney kendall coffey and attorney susan carten who represented anthony baez's family here in new york city during that case. susan, you were in the middle of a very similar case, historic case. i remember well having come to rallies, came out here a couple of times. does it seem to you that we've seen this before and that we're sitting here in 2014 doing the same thing? >> i can't believe it's 18 years later and we're still talking about this.
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when we were involved in the baez case where it was very similar. anthony baez was playing football in front of his home and the football hit officer lavodi's car who was also represented by the same attorney as mr. pantaleo. and the officer got ot of the car and started screaming and yelling at the baez family brothers and telling them to move off the block. one thing led to another and anthony baez was in a chokehold. he was on the ground screaming for his life. his father was screaming that he had asthma and was pronounced dead at the scene. there were many officers there as well. what i think this case is going to come down to for the feds is what those other officers who were there who should have been charged as well, who shouldn't have been given immunity, what they said. the minute they were given immunity, you now have all of these officers coming together, giving their story, and it's very hard for a dead man to
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speak. so i think that's partially what the feds are going to be concentrating on. >> in a minute i want to ask you the key on how you broke through that wall. i want to go to something before i let susan respond to that. i mentioned these cases a moment ago. federal prosecutors brought charges. after the jury acquitted, they brought cases in anthony baez's case after a judge acquitted and in abner louima. why is it necessary for federal authorities to get involved? >> well, i think they traditionally get involved because local police and local prosecutors work together very closely. they are like part of the same brotherhood and sisterhood and a lot of positives about that. when it comes to an excessive force case, there's no prosecution, local prosecution office in america that has enthusiasm for those cases. so the result is their feeling
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from their comrades, their teammates, a lot of institutional pressure to be very reelectrluctant to pull th trigger an cases. they would much rather the u.s. attorney's office be dealing with it than a local elected prosecutor who has to work every day with the men and women in the police force. >> susan, we were talking about the anthony baez case that you represented. so many similarities between that case and eric garner's. i want to play a part of the "today" show from 1995 when his family was interviewed. let's watch this. >> baez was playing touch football with his brothers late one night when the football hit a police car. officer lavodi tried to break up the game, and it ended up in a struggle with baez. >> demonstrate what you saw the officer do to your brother? >> what i saw him do on the
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opposite side over there because i was on the sidewalk. the officer came around behind him and brought him back look this, taking him down. >> it's almost eerie, 18 years later we're seeing this same kind of thing. what did you do to break through this blue wall and to get a federal indictment? >> well, immediately after the non -- the acquittal of officer lavodi, and remember the judge in that case was judge judy's husband, judge sheinlin. had an indictment. it went to trial. a nonjury trial. but judge sheinlin said from the bench, and this was the key, there was a nest of perjury. this was my beef with the d.a. was they put in all these witnesses. 50, 60 witnesses. it's not the amount of witnesses. it's the quality of the witnesses. it's how you present it.
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it's what questions you ask to get the indictment. and i believe that these d.a.s just put everything up, throw it up on the wall and then people say, well, we can't tell what two officers said this, one lay person said that and you'll never get an indictment that way. so what we did is immediately after judge sheinlin acquitted the officer, we walked to mary joe white's office, who was a u.s. attorney, and demanded a federal investigation. and they did an amazing investigation. they spoke to everybody. they made those cops come in there. once they started separating out the cops, the real true story came out. >> the federal investigation many of us have been calling for is really what you did 18 years ago success ffully. after an acquittal. >> kendall, how high is the bar to get a federal indictment or even a serious federal grand jury. let me play the tape and as i
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play the tape, explain how high the bar is and where we have an opportunity to at least have a federal grand jury look at this if at all, in your opinion. kendall? >> yeah. i'm listening closely. >> what we -- walk me through. how high is the bar to get a federal indictment? >> here's the standard. it's not as some have suggested anything to do with an analysis on the spot of the constitution. nor is the civil rights crime require any proof of racism. the use of excessive force. unless a jury has a reasonable doubt, thinks there's no probable cause, that there was an improper chokehold causing the death. remember we know the coroner said death resulted from the compression of the throat, neck and chest.
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we know that in his final words he kept saying, i can't breathe. i can't breathe. so i think there's more than enough probable cause to show that an illegal chokehold was being used and that it caused the death. if that was done intentionally which there's considerable evidence, then that could satisfy the federal standard. >> so excessive force. you don't even have to prove race or bias. excessive force. kendall coffey, susan carten, thank you forrior time tonight. still ahead, stunning revelations about the rookie officer who shot and killed a 12-year-old boy in cleveland. tamir rice didn't have to die. and there are new questions tonight. also, we're following those protests in new york and around the country. can the demonstrations lead to real change? stay with us. i make a lot of purchases for my business. and i get a lot in return with ink plus from chase. like 50,000 bonus points when i spent $5,000
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the same day the eric garner decision stunned the nation. two more tragedies reshaping the way americans think about our criminal justice system. tonight we're learning more details about the rookie officer who in under two seconds fired the fatal shots that killed tamir rice. police claim the officer somehow gave proper warning in those two seconds. >> why three commands were given to show your hands by officer loehmann as he pulled up to the gazebo there. >> but today, disturbing revelations about officer loehmann's experience and training. a new report shows his old boss found him unfit for duty in 2012. from a small town police force in ohio. he said loehmann was weepy and distracted during a handgun training and that his performance was dismal.
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he went on to write about loehmann's inability to perform basic functions and emotionally function. and he said, quote, he would not be able to substantially cope or make good decisions during or resulting from any other stressful situation. cleveland police admit they never reviewed this personnel file before hiring the officer. it raises serious questions about officer loehmann's judgment. on this video, tamir rice is clearly pointing and playing with a pellet gun. someone called 911 and so the police had to respond. but is what happened when the police arrived that is so troubling. shooting tamir rice in under two seconds and now this officer's history is adding disturbing details to what happened. joining me now, cleveland city
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councilman zach reed and legal analyst veteran prosecutor paul henderson. thank you both for being here tonight. >> thanks for having us, reverend. >> councilman, what do you make of what we're learning about this officer today? >> well, a lot of things were dropped. clearly we did not do our homework on this officer. clearly if we had done our homework on this officer, we would not have hired this officer. goes back to what malcom x said. you have good cops, bad cops and cops that don't deserve to be on the force both physically, mentally and this is what we've got. we have a cop that should not have been on the force because he could not perform the duties of what officers are supposed to do. >> paul, how can his background, the officer's background play into this case. the grand jury made meat on this. >> this issue is absolutely relevant in terms of allowing
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someone to use deadly force when there have been these issues in the past that were either ignored or not followed up upon. the mayor himself invited the federal government to come and continue an investigation and you mentioned this earlier about the use of excessive force and the background but also the secondary issue is the lack of follow-up about internal incidents and discipline actions that weren't followed up upon. this dovetails directly into that with a lack of accountability for the officers being hired specifically when they are putting them in a position 20 use deadly force in the community. this is absolutely relevant. i think we'll see more closer scrutiny from the federal government and this incident as well in cleveland. >> councilman reed, not only this officer. the cleveland plain dealer reported late today the city paid out $100,000 to settle an excessive force lawsuit earlier this year involving the other
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officer in the tamir rice case. a six-year veteran who was driving the police car. so are there serious questions about both officers involved in this case? >> i don't think it's just these two officers. i think what the federal government said in their report, and as a matter of fact, i just left the u.s. attorney's office here in northern ohio to come on to your show. and they talked about the word pattern. it's not just these two officers. it's a pattern of officers over the years of using excessive force to do their job. they have to use force in some occasions, but to continue as the government has said, a pattern of excessive force has got the federal government to now say we're going to put a monitor in cleveland because you clearly in cleerld don't know how to do this job on your own
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and, therefore, we need an independent monitor to come in, look at and evaluate your training, your officers, policies and procedures because, clearly, you aren't doing it right in the city of cleveland. >> is there pleasure forressured jury? >> i don't think there has to be pressure. the circumstances that led to a 12-year-old boy standing up and an officer within two seconds shooting him beckons that a grand jury has to look at it and come back with a right decision. >> all right. but there's my point of tension, paul, because if they were operating, the police, with a pattern, can this prosecutor who did nothing about that pattern and work with his police, can he conduct that grand jury, or do we need an outside prosecutor or the federal government, just like the attorney general put a
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monitor in over police. they weren't hand and glove. >> the prosecutor always has an independent option to file charges independently of the grand jury. the grand jury is just a tool of the prosecutor. but a prosecutor can always just charge that initially if he or she makes a determination that a crime has occurred and it doesn't necessarily have to go through this grand jury process that we're seeing again and again being challenged as a subjective interpretation and a different measurement of accountable when they involve the potential of police misconduct and communities of color involving death of african-american men and that's the exact same situation. we could see a grand jury but we could see a prosecutor charge that officer independently. >> and what's stunning to me about this councilman, 12-year-old young man killed, young boy killed, it was
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stunning. many of us around the country just couldn't believe it. but now we find out the background of the officer that shot and killed him, and they didn't read the personnel file? i mean, this is unthinkable. >> it's startling. it's startling. and now it has led us to change the policy that we're going to start looking at every personnel file, but we should have been doing that all long. >> so was it the policy that you didn't have to read the stuff? >> why didn't have to read it. we didn't have to read it. now we've changed the policy in light of what we've done here to allow a rogue police officer. you understand this police officer said he quit that police force before he got fired and came to cleveland because he wanted some action. i mean, what kind of moond-set to say he wants the action? >> well, paul -- >> that's a real problem. >> you are a veteran prosecutor. >> yes. >> just knowing what you know
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from seeing the video, just from seeing the video, how would you prosecute this case? >> look, i have real concerns. and one of the things we haven't really been discussing is that ohio is an open carry state. and so that means that you are allowed, if you have a permit, to have a gun in the public. the fact that the decision was made so quickly without an assessment as to whether this individual was over the age of 18, whether or not he may have had a permit, without an assessment of whether he was using that gun inappropriately and threatening either the officer or someone else is the real issue. so i would focus in on the timeline and split decision like this get made all the time. the fact this split decision in less than two seconds ended up with this 12-year-old with not a real gun shot without an evaluation of those factors is the very thing that i would present either to a jury or to a grand jury when i made a
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determination as to whether or not a crime had been committed. specif it's a whole separate issue but i think what may open the city and that department of civil liability which is a whole separate track from accountability that a prosecutor's decision is going to make. >> thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you. straight ahead, a national call for change. right now, peaceful protests are under way here in new york and around the country. the fight for change next. it's more than the driver. it's more than the car. for lotus f1 team, the competitive edge is the cloud. powered by microsoft dynamics, azure, and office 365, the team can gain real time insights and
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the decision not to indict an officer in the killing of eric garner has sparked outrage across the country. and we're now seeing peaceful protests in chicago, baltimore and here in new york city. and another day of protests showed there's a national push for change. president obama is pushing to revamp how police are trained, and how they interact with the communities they serve. >> too many americans feel deep unfairness when it comes to the gap between our professed ideals and how laws are applied on a
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day-to-day basis. and big challenges like these should galvanize our country. big challenges like these should unite us around an opportunity that brings us together rather than pulling us apart. >> the president is calling for millions of dollars to fund body cameras for police. but there are many other potential reforms. everything from improved training to electronically tracking police weapons. it's clear something has to change. joining me now is mark moriel, president of the national urban league. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> we've been dealing with thysethese issues for a long time. as we said in our national leaders meeting today, now more americans are aware of it than ever before. are we at a tipping point? >> we are at a tipping point and the president's message around unifying the nation, the protesters and the activists
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call to action. the crystallization that this is not just about eric garner in new york or about michael brown in ferguson, but it is about them because they've helped to noteivate, if you will, this movement. but it's about tamir rice and now this has a new national dimnession. with, i believe, the president with the task force you and i had a chance to participate in the announcement of that, creating an opportunity for there to be solid recommendations around police reform. >> now you mentioned two cases that we've been involved in and the whole nation has been watching. but the fbi says there was 461 justifiable shootings by police last year. that's the most in two decades. even more disturbing is the fact that these numbers may be underreported, since not all police departments supplied this
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data. how can we even address the problem when we don't know what the real numbers are? >> those numbers give us at least, reverend, a starting point. a place to start. we know there were reported by local police departments 461, if you will, shootings by citizens -- of citizens by police. i think what i would say is that we need to ensure that the data, the information and the numbers being reported are, indeed, accurate and what needs to be done is those numbers need to be reviewed and audited to determine if they were justifiable, but in some cases, they were challenged. and i might add this. a system of accountability is one of the most important deterrents. if officers engage in illegal use of force and they pay a price for it, it sends a message to others. that's how our system works in this country. >> and in that light, what is it
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that you and i and others are saying? because we clearly are not anti-police. all police are not bad. most are not bad. what we're saying -- what are we saying about the process? what do we isn't we're marching on december 13th. what do we want? >> we want effective policing. we want respectable policing. we want policing that has a working relationship with communities around the aims of public safety. what we're saying is that next year needs to be a year committed to action on justice and jobs. what we're saying is, let's get together on the 13th in washington, d.c., for a national march which brings all interests. the coalition of the committed to justice together and in the beginning of 2015, let's come together for an historic civil rights and social justice leaders summit in washington, d.c., to ensure that we've sustained momentum and continue
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to make good recommendations. >> body cameras have come up both with the president, the mayor here in new york. during a test program in california, the use of force by officers dropped by 60% after they started using body cams. and complaints against officers were down 88%. it sound like programs like these can have a real impact on how police and civilians interact. >> i strongly support body cameras. >> you used to be a mayor. >> body cameras and dashboard cameras, had they been available, i would have readily embraced it. because it gives you just yet another tool. by itself it doesn't solve the problem that we're talking about. but what it does, it creates a tool of accountability. and it eliminates some of the guesswork about what happened in an interaction between police and citizens. >> you used to be mayor of new orleans, and your father before you. so you know how grand juries work, policing work.
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and you know the relationship between prosecutors and police on a local level. how can that work? we have such -- >> the relationship between prosecutors and police is hand in glove. they have to work together. because the prosecutors prosecute the arrests and the cases made by the local police department. to a great extent you have to create a separate independent mechanism to hold police officers accountable. we see a broken system, but it's expected. the history of state prosecutors, prosecuting police officers for misconduct is not a good record in this country. the federal government's record is better. it's why in the garner case and in the michael brown case, we support what attorney general holder has done and that's proceed independently with a federal investigation.
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>> thank you for your time. still ahead -- the human toll of the policing crisis in this country. it's not just the victims. it's the shattered lives left behind. you're watching a special edition of "politics nation" as the country rises up against this injustice. stay with me. introducing... a pm pain reliever that dares to work all the way until... the am. new aleve pm the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour strength of aleve. into one you'll never forget. earn triple points when you book with the expedia app. expedia plus rewards.
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>> i don't even want to think about tomorrow being thanksgiving. it's just thursday. i don't plan to celebrate, because i can't. >> 12-year-old tamir rice was laid to rest just yesterday. yesterday his parents and sisters will never see him finish the sixth grade. >> this man was 28 when he was killed by police in a brooklyn stairwell. his two children lost their father forever. four different stories from four different parts of the country, all with the same result. and their families will never be the same. why they have families. yes, they were somebody's child, somebody's father, somebody's brother. they will never, ever be the same. and until we all start caring for each other beyond the headlines, i talked to many people that i fought for and with 25 years ago because until you can feel inside the pain of
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saying we need to care about fellow americans, then you are, and i am not who we ought to be yet. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. federal case. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. toint, the grounds for a federal case against the officer or officers involved in the death of eric garner. is what we see reason in itself to bring one or more officers to trial in federal court? was this citizen denied his rights under the law or treated fairly? it's a fair question to ask. a decision that the united states justice department will have to make. if attorney general eric holder gets his way, we'll get that


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