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paris. police summoned to a post office in paris where a man was holding two people hostage. never linked to last week's terrorist attacks and he gave himself up. none the less speaks to heightened a alert hartly due to raids held in france belgium and germany. nearly 30 potential terror suspects in custody, at least one imminent attack thwarted. this morning the head of the european union says the complex nature of a terrorist threat means stopping all have become extremely difficult, all this as secretary of state john kerry arrived in paris to embrace, literally, the president of france. francois hollande. >> we accept with humility the responsibility that falls to each of us to defend the values our societies cherish, and
extremists fear the most. in the end our engagement all of us in this struggle it is not a choice. it is a mandate. >> secretary kerry met with both france's president and foreign minister today, and "charlie hebdo" and the kosher market and placed flowers at the site where a policewoman was shot. at the same time police in france announced a dozen arrests in operations designed to root out accomplices it may have provided logistics or weapons to the paris attackers. in belgium, an overnight raid broke up a plot hours before it was set to go into effect. this shoot-out with belgium s.w.a.t. teams left two terror suspects dead. another one ended up in custody. search warrants turned up rifles, bombmaking materials and police uniforms. >> these people have intention to kill several policemen in the streets, and at consulates.
>> belgium officials say the plot was not linked to the attack in paris but may have been connected more broadly to extremists returning from syria. same story in germany. an unconnected raid two men picked up supporting isis fighters. ron allen has much more on all of this from paris. >> reporter: good morning, jose. yes, that hostage situation has been resolved fortunately. and there was no more bloodshed. the authorities responded to it very, very cautiously though because of what's happened here, and because everyone is still on a very high state of alert here leery of what might happen. this morning also there was a bomb scare at a major train station in paris. it was evacuated until it could be cleared, and that turned out to be a false alarm, not connected to terrorism. no bombmaking material or bottom of any sort found there at all. it is an indication how on high alert everyone is here. last night in paris, around the
outskirts of paris, about a dozen people arrested suspected of perhaps providing support to the kouachi brothers or amedy coulibaly in connection with the attacks last week. they're stale trying to find drivers, money men, people who supplied weapons, hideouts. a lot of loose ends they're trying to tie up and of course until they do, they won't be able to really assess the level of threat that the country still faces. right now the threat is thought to be imminent although again, we've not heard of any other specific plot that has been thwarted as was the case in bass belgium. a fiery and explosive situation last night. looking at that place and those suspects for some time believed they were young men who recently returned from syria and iraq from the jihadi wars there. big problem in belgium and in france and all across europe. jose? >> ron allen in paris. thank you very much. back in this country, we're just a few hours away from president obama's bilateral
meeting with british prime minister david cameron. then just after noon both men will take questions from the media. you can bet what's happened in paris and across europe will be at the top of the list. nbc's kristen welker is live at the white house this morning. kristen, good morning. >> reporter: jose good morning. that's right. the two leaders will discuss a range of topics including the paris attacks. the broader fight against isis. also the fight against foreign fighters. it's estimated as many as 3,000 westerners including more than 100 americans have traveled overseas to places like iraq and syria to fight alongside violent extremists there. some of those like the paris attackers, then return to their western homelands to wage attacks at home. it is also anticipated that prime minister david cameron will ask president obama to press u.s. internet company ises. companies like google and facebook to engage in more information sharing with british intelligence agencies. something that will touch a nerve in this country particularly coming in the wake of the nsa controversy.
the white house hasn't said how president obama will respond, but white house press secretary josh earnest got a number of questions about this yesterday. take a listen to what he had to say. >> i'm not trying to foreshadow any upcoming announcements, either in the context of the prime minister's visit or even in the context of the cyber security summit for that matter but i do remain optimistic that conversations with the british prime minister and the cyber summit a month later will allow us to make flogprogress in this area. >> reporter: and the two leaders are expected to announce cyber exercises, joint cyber exercises, that they will be holding in the coming months. things like mock attacks against banks, for example. also expecting the economy and trade to be big issues, as you pointed out, jose. the two will hold a joint press conference. they're going to get four questions total.
two from reporters from each country, all of these issues will be on the table. jose? >> kristen welker and the white house. thank you. good to see you. joining me steve clemons an msnbc contributor steve good to see you. >> good morning, jose. >> we see what's happening in europe, does it seem like both the bad guys and the good guys have decided this is a time to act? >> oh i think there's no doubt. i think that, you know what you see happening is a little disconcerting, as you saw last night a huge what i call a terror entourage roundup in germany, belgium and france, more people picked up either part of the intelligence surveillance that's been going on or were people that coulibaly and the kouachi brothers and others had met, and you know look at this. there's now a new increase when coulibaly and whatnot went to spain. so this is spreading out. i think in germany, germany raided 11 apartments last night,
and to find and arrest two people, but what may be happening, what's interesting is in this world where you're surveilling people you're concerned about and want to watch their patterns and who they meet when they play their cards and finally pick them up that shuts down those operations. so the good guys are moving but, yes, the bad guys were already given instructions as u.s. intelligence revealed that activate add number of cells and e said to go to work. >> and steve, the fact there is at least one person arrested in this you know one hopes maybe they could get more information out of that person that was not killed in the raid but as you say, there's a possibility that maybe there are hidden cells in spain and in other countries that where you haven't seen these arrests occur in? >> i don't know if you saw the news last night, but the really chilling revelation was what this cell in belgium had tasked itself to do which was to kidnap a police officer, to
behead that officer on video and then to load that into social media. mimicking what isis has been doing in syria and iraq. so it's a pretty horrific chilling goal that they had, and one wonders whether we need to sort of be prepared resilient, thinking ahead about that kind of action in other communities around europe. >> and, steve, what this really comes down to is well partnership and agreements and communication between governments and countries in western europe and here in the united states? >> well i think it's communication between governments. i also think it's reaching out to these communities in which these radicals exist, because these people all connected within communities. they have neighbors, cousins, friends. it's important that there be a synthesis between solving some of the distance inside these societies in reaching out to them because many of these people want good lives for their kids and having them turn in and reveal who their bad apples
are. so two goods can be created by reaching out to these communities and promoting much more healthy relationships, because they will turn out if that works out, they'll turn out these bad people who are right now hidden and embedded in alienated communities. one is hopeful a lot of the healing and whatnot that needs to take place inside these societies begins so that people themselves report the strange neighbor or the folks that they see who have acquired ack-47s and other kinds of things that don't just pop up. they have to be hidden by people, and that's what needs to happen. >> so far not a lot has happened. steve clemons, pleasure. key a close eye on this development and keep you informed throughout "the rundown." we're just getting started on this friday edition of "the rundown." coming up, day two of the republican retreat in the sweetest place on earth. hershey, pennsylvania. have they come to a consensus on issues like, for example, immigration? plus the new u.s. regulations on cuba go into
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now to day two of the republican soul search in hershey, pennsylvania, and if there was one sour topic in the sweetest place on earth it's immigration. lawmakers still wrestling how to respond to president obama executive action on that issue. reportedly getting hung up on specifics passed border security. nbc news congressional correspondent luke russert is at the retreat.
good morning. >> good morning. how are you? >> great. you talked to john boehner yesterday, we talked about the caucus of immigration. are things getting any better? >> reporter: no. i would think it's fair to say, jose they're kind of stuck. where you see them on immigration right now is they want to confront president obama for his executive orders that he issued back last year. they want to do it in the context of this department of homeland security bill but look what's happened jose over the last month. the tax in paris. you had this foiled terrorist attack against the capitol that happened just this week. so the see the importance of homeland security funding, making republicans apprehensive trying to play politics with that important money over the topic about immigration. all that being said they realized they have to confront the president in some capacity. how they're going to do that they do not know.
with the house passed wednesday, rebeal of doca 26 republicans against it thought it went too far to the right will not fly in the senate. i asked mitch mcconnell about that yesterday and boehner sort of said look we passed our bill. the senate will pass their bill. we'll go to conference. bupt that takes time jose and the clock is ticking until february 27th. it looks really bad for republicans if they will not fund the department of homeland security over immigration after everything that's happened in paris and the thwarted attacks here on the soil. they realize that. national security is one of the three important pillars of the republican platform. not something they want to give back to the president after their own polling has gone up on that issue post the rise of isis. >> so talk about that. now the senate will have to deal take up that house bill. is there enough time for them to deal with that bill, come up with they are own and return to conference before the end of
february? >> reporter: well, the senate right now jose they're not working on this department of homeland security bill or immigration. they're working on the keystone pipeline. so just under the rules of the senate, that's going to take a few weeks. so once that is complete then they would presumably turn their attention to this and i would just say that february 27th deadline, it's front and center. so i just -- to givy my read one you my read on it pass a clean home security bill, get through the senate fine. 60 votes easy. pick up democrats, the democratic position get more than enough. but getting a clean bill through the house is very difficult. remember, when president obama made that executive order announcement republicans said it was unconstitutional. we have to take a stand. this was the opportunity to take a stand. the events of the world made the opportunity to take a stand not very appealing. how can you be a party that's about national security and say, hey, we're not going to fund a very important fund because we want to go back against the
president on immigration? a tough thing to explain to the american people and i think leadership realizes that. at what point does the rank and file realize that? >> good to see you, my friend luke russert in hershey, pennsylvania. >> reporter: thanks. chuck todd, mediator of "meet the press." nice to see you. >> nice to see you today. >> what we talked about with luke, this gop schism is playing out in the 2016 fight. right? >> well yeah, there is but to pick up quickly on what luke said on immigration. it was fascinating to watch a new senator like cory gardner, new republican senator from colorado, a former house republican, criticize house republicans on this and basically say you can't just try to stop it. you better come up with an alternative solution. and the fact that you have a senator, cory gardner, who's, not going to be mistaken for a moderate republican someone somehow in the middle. he's seen an a pragmatic conservative. also a reminder he knows he's
representing a state with a growing hispanic population as well. >> yes. >> so i think there's hometown politics he's worried about there, but i think that also sort of adds to the pressure on house republicans. >> yeah. and do they have enough time to deal with this issue before the 27th of february? >> look, my gut is we see another two-month delay. that's my -- yeah. you know this to me it's like, i could just see them going, well, they'll be able to do a clean funding for another two months or something like that. that they won't be able to just do for the rest of the year. if they somehow get to the point of where -- of where they just can't come up with any other way to get this through the senate. >> yeah. chuck, talk about the big news conference today. president obama and the british prime minister together together, a couple hours from now. what's the biggest question president obama needs to answer today? >> on terror.
pore terrible potentially what's going on in iraq. the president's got a lot of balls in the air. i like to go big picture here. i feel we're living in deja vu of ten years ago where all of a sudden there's a lot of cells percolating around the western world, particularly obviously more acute in europe than the united states, but afs it's sort of -- all of a sudden the goal of dismantling al qaeda, dismantling these radical islamic terrorist groups to the point where they're more worried about their own survival and can't go on offense. that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. they clearly have regrouped enough to start recruiting. regrouped fluff to start these -- abilities that they can't do the massive attacks, a la 9/11 what they did in london or madrid but can do surgical terrorist attacks that shake the western world a bait . . a bit. >> tell us what you're working
on for sunday. >> we have the new editor of "charlie hebdo" is going to be on the show. as well as we're going to do a little state of union preview out of the white house with dan pfeiffer, the president's senior adviser there. lindy graham republican senator from south carolina in jerusalem. talk terror and immigration with him as well plus of course all things bush and romney right now. the whole mitt romney and how it's the stirring the republican pot as well. a busy show. >> absolutely. see you soon. see you on sunday on "meet the press." of course you can watch "meet the press" every sunday on your local nbc station. and coming up what some are calling a teen boyne and clyde. two love-struck teenagers on the run accused of stealing cars. one with two guns inside. and one state makes it mandatory for high school students to pass the u.s. citizenship civics test before graduation. what do you think of that? maybe a good idea considering this -- >> who's the vice president? >> um --
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to be on the jobs picture. we've heard a lot about the fact the economy has been adding jobs, things recovering but the recent slide in oil prices has really cast a negative light on what's happening overall with the industry. one of the big things we're watching for is whether those, the oil price slide will lead to weaker companies in the oil and gas sector. schlumberger one of the big effort in the world announced 9,000 job cuts yesterday. see if the oil price slide leads to more job cuts down the line. >> dominic chu. pleasure to see you. still ahead on this hour of "the rundown." plch the emergency in europe going after terror suspects. and after the movie "selma" was not nominated in the oscars. and a lack of diversity in the acting category. first a live look at the atlanta skyline this morning. day after a cold front. icy roads really causing
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against jim miklaszewski, what can you tell us? >> reporter: in march and april to begin training more moderate rebel factions forces out of syria in an effort to trapin and equipped those forces to be able to take on isis and perhaps ultimately the assad regime itself. negotiations are under way with a fourth country. so ultimately there will be 400 in that area that will be trained not only by americans but also some of the arab and european allies who are taking a part, part in the coalition war effort against isis. they expect to train as many as 5,400 this year and 5,400 in the two subsequent years but i can tell you, jose as good as this sounds we haven't found
very many people in the pentagon or military who think that ultimately this is going to be the answer to the difficult, very complex situation there in syria. there are more than 1,000 different tribes and factions that at some timeless fight with each other. sometimes fight against each other, and so it's a very difficult proposition, but as one official told us look you know at this point, it's about all we can do. >> and saying about 5,400 people just this year alone. i presume a tough time also finding out exactly who they can trust enough to train? >> reporter: that's absolutely right. they have to vet every one of these 5,400 and maybe the first group, probably come up with 5,400. beyond that difficult. because they found in syria, on one day one of your allies who is fighting against your common enemy will join forces with that
enemy. if again it's convenient for them at the moment. it's a very fluid flungable situation and difficult to wrap your arms around. a lot of criticism against the u.s. for not arming the rebels. one of the reasons is if you give them a rocket pro pepped grenade today, it will be in the hands of the enemy tomorrow. >> jim miklaszewski a difficult situation. always a pleasure. and as it's u.s. steps on pressure on isis allies in western europe are cracking down on suspected terror cells. nearly 30 people nabbed in france belgium and germany. at least 14 suspects arrested in france linked to the three gunmen in last week's terror rampage. bring in senior intelligence and national correspondent for the daily beast. >> tlampgs for having me. >> what do you make of the fast-moving development
overnight? >> an argumenturgency to round these people up as quickly as possible and not traditionally what happens in the cases where you watch them see how they communicate, see if you can trace them back to the higher ups controlling them. there's a fear a lot of these gruchs may be acting on their ohoh own volition and you have to shut them down. a sense of urgency to wrap these guys up as quickly as possible is what you're seeing. >> and terror attacks imminent in belgium? >> absolutely. intercepted phone conversations. when they arrested them they had police uniforms in their possession suggesting they might try to attack or infiltrate police stations. you'll see in coming days any other groups under surveillance for time you might see mow arrests as authorities decide to crack down now rather than watch to see what they might do. >> shane, significance that this happened in belgium?
any specific reason by belgium was targeted? >> it's not clear yet and we're not seeing direct links between that and what's going on in paris. but i think there's this general sense that a lot of european countries have been struggling for some time about this threat of foreign fighters. people hoopwho go abroad get training or are inspired by the rhetoric they're hearing's no direct connection in france. talking about belgium, the diplomatic heart of europe an obvious target people would want to hit. >> and european foreign minister meet on monday seeking a new strategy. what do you think can be done really? >> this is going to be a long-term societal challenge, really. i don't think counterterrorism operations or military strikes are going to deter people from engaging these attacks. if anything they might egg them on. there's going to have to be a country-by-country examination how you deal with this at a societal level and what the grievances are. also what is the pathology
driving people to do this? that's a much longer term more complicated discussion. right now you see we're completely in crisis mode at this point. >> shane harris pleasure. thanks for being with me this morning. >> sure. back here at home, the ohio man accused of planning to attack congress is due in court this afternoon. nbc justice correspondent pete williams joins us this morning. pete pleasure. talk to me about christopher cornell. what do we expect in federal court in cincinnati today? >> reporter: a detention hearing. initial appearance wednesday right after being arrested and the prosecutors will ask the judge to keep him in custody until his trial. that's the big issue today. it's possible that his lawyer could waive this issue, but that's the immediate issue. we may learn a little more about the government's case that was laid out in a court document on wednesday. interestingly, jose yesterday the speaker of the house john boehner added a new level of complexity to this case when he said that the government's
controversial nsa surveillance programs play add role in the government's getting on to this in the first place. he didn't say which one. the suspicion is he was talking about the program that let's the nsa monitor e-mails, but if, in fact, they were a role in the case, then that would be discovered during the trial, because the justice department now has a policy of disclosing to the defense if it obtained evidence using these programs. we could find out about that when the case goes to trial. >> and pete also on supreme court watch today. learn today whether just ises will take up same-sex marriage? >> reporter: we could. here are the reason why. this is a circuit split. the circuits are divided wennerhether states can ban same-sex marriage without violating the constitution. in october no split. now there is. one court of appeals says yes, states can do it constitutionally. if the supreme court wants to take this case up and decide it
this term they don't have much time left. in order to grant it and still get it on the calendar, time for the lawyers to get all the briefs, hear arguments and the get the case decided in june. so we could find out this afternoon, the justices meet in private conference. the cases were on their conferences last week. nothing happened. they're on the case the conference list again today. so we could hear this afternoon whether they want to take it and resolve it this term. >> pete williams, good to see you. >> reporter: of course. teen suspects on the run. an execution in oklahoma and target practice controversy, some of today's top stories. police in several southern states are on the lookout for an 18-year-old kentucky man and his 13-year-old girlfriend accused going or a 12-day crime spree. investigators say dalton hayes and cheyenne philips stole at least two trucks one with two guns in it. hayes's mom said the two started dating but didn't know cheyenne was only 13.
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also more than 24 hours after the nominations for the oscars were announced the controversy is growing with many asking where's the diversity? the list marks only the second time since 2000 no black actors or actresses were nominated. all knollnominees in the categories were white. we have more on the backlash. >> reporter: the lack of diversity in major categories sparked a lot of conversation especially on social media. some feel it's just an anomaly in a year with a lot of great films. others feel it deals with deeper issues. at the heart, the civil rights movie "selma" scored best
picture nomination but nothing for director or lead actor. in fact, all 20 of this year's acting nominees were white and women shut out of the directing and screen writing categories. last night critic's choice awards jessica chastain described the need to built diversity. >> martin luther king jr. said our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. and i would like to encourage everyone in this room to please, speak up. >> reporter: in 2012 the "l.a. times" reported oscar vote wers 94% white, 77% male. the academy's trying to change that, and the oscars have recently recognized a number of diverse performances and films including last year's best picture "12 years a slave." >> that's all right. >> reporter: the academy's president who is african-american told access hollywood this year was just very competitive, saying those who were not nominated will still benefit. >> the public knows who they are and i think careers will all
increase across the board. >> reporter: many argue oscar voters can only acknowledge work put before them in the first place. that starts by financing and promoting more diverse films. >> movies that are directed by and starring women and people are color are still far fewer than movies directed by and about white men. >> reporter: we spoke with a few hollywood overs who feel the television industry is well ahead of the film industry when it comes to issues of diversity, both in front of the camera and behind it. back to you. >> thank you so very much. coming up on "the rundown," the reality of the new u.s. reg laces in cuba. we'll be right back. .yea dulcolax tablets can cause cramps but not phillips. it has magnesium and works more naturally than stimulant laxatives. for gentle cramp free relief of occasional constipation that works! mmm mmm live the regular life. [ narrator ] mama sherman and the legion of super fans. wow! [ narrator ] on a mission to get richard
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lives of cubans will improve. their families in the u.s. can send four times as much money. they could get better and cheaper wi-fi, more electronics, and american food imported. and those 1950s cars may look cute, but they're tough to maintain. a lot of cubans can't wait until they can buy a ford or chevy. american companies are lining up to do business in cuba. the biggest question mark is what cuba will allow. >> my sense is the cubans want a trickle, not flood, of foreign investment and trade and want to control the pace of the relationship. >> nbc's kate snow in miami. for more on what the new regulations really mean let me bring in florida republican congressman at the republican retreat in pennsylvania. congressman, thanks for being with me. >> jose good morning. good to be with you. >> a lot of discussion i'm seeing about the situation in cuba frankly is inane and
superficial, how many cigars can americans buy. there has to be more to the new cuba, u.s. relationship isn't there? >> jose here is the bottom line. congress gets the last word on whether or not we lift economic sanctions on the cuban government. right now, there's a strong bipartisan majority in congress against any more unilateral concessions to the obama administration. there are even a lot of democrats in the house that think this is a big mistake, and we're going to do everything in our power to stop this irresponsible policy from being implemented. >> congressman, you talk about an irresponsible policy. a lot of people say that 54 years into an embargo that hasn't had a very strong impact on the cuban regime as a matter of fact, the same people that were in power in 1959 are in power in 2015. isn't the time to have some different perspective on that country? >> what that shows is that the
policy of 190 other countries in the world, jose who do have full diplomatic and economic relations with cuba has not worked. the cuban people are worse off today after all these countries have established full relationships with cuba. we should not make the same mistake. our policy has worked. we have denied the cuban government the resources it needs, number one, to continue repressing and beating its own people. and number two, to continue opposing u.s. interests throughout the world. think about it jose. what did the cuban government do when they had resources? they had troops all over the world fighting against americans. do we want to go back to those days? >> congressman, among things they're doing and this comes this morning from independent cuban journalism reporting two people on the u.s. list to be political
political prisoners to be released, and another activist beaten and arrested. he was not on the list of those released. it seems to me you're saying because of the embargo, cuba hasn't been able to continue beating its people. that hasn't changed. >> the bottom line here is that the cuban government is an oppressive brutal regime. nothing that the united states does is going to change that. and president obama has to understand that. maybe he does and just doesn't want to say it but no unilateral concession from the united states is going to help the cuban people is going to prevent them being imprisoned and beaten for just disagreeing with the government. it has been happening since 1959 and as long as raul and fidel castro are in power, it will continue happening, and the united states should stay on side of the cuban people. we should not sit at the table with dictators with blood on their hands. >> spanish speakers in the u.s.
outside florida, know who you are, more will know you after the give the gop spanish response to the state of the union next week. given the house vote that would strip immigrants the ability to come out of the shadows on immigration, what do you think that is important for you to say to the spanish speaking people when you give the response? >> look jose i made my point on immigration this week when i voted against the bill that the house proposed. i don't think that is a good solution for immigration. i don't think the majority of american people think it is a good solution for immigration. but the number one issue in our country is still the economy. a lot of people feel like they're leaving behind tuesday after the president's speech i want to present the country with a republican alternative for growth and prosperity for every single american but especially for those people who feel like they're being left behind young people who can't find jobs after
college. immigrants who are having hours cut due to some of the obamacare regulations. those are the people that we republicans have to focus on. the least fortunate people in our country have an opportunity. that means everyone in our country has an opportunity. >> congressman, thank you for being with me from pennsylvania this morning. appreciate your time. >> thank you. i look forward to being back in miami, soon. it is cold here. >> south florida is cold too, will be like 57 today. >> yeah thanks. coming up as we take the turn on the rundown, gearing up for a big meeting at the white house. happening in a little more than an hour between president obama and british prime minister david cameron cameron, going live to the white house. and inside the intel, countries around the world are stepping up operations to crackdown on terror. how much does what's happening overseas effect us here? be right back.
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and welcome back to the second hour of the rundown here on msnbc. just an hour from now, president obama will sit down with prime minister of britain david cameron. shortly after that they're going to hold a joint press conference where we are expecting to get their first reaction to the massive sweep that picked up dozens of terrorist suspects across western europe just last night. joining me now, kris jansing live at the white house this morning. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, how are you, jose? >> great. can we assume terrorism will be the top of the agenda for these two gentlemen. >> reporter: i think you can assume it is topic one, two, three. a prime focus. obviously the timing here couldn't be more important, given 17 people who were killed across france and then you have the terror sweep across three countries, including belgium and germany. so look one of the items top of the agenda what is the center
of a lot of debate is that cameron is going to be pushing president obama to push american companies like google like facebook to allow intelligence access to encrypted conversations. they say, they being british intelligence and other european officials, they need to intercept messages from would be terrorists. obviously there are huge privacy concerns at stake here. but you have new urgency. they will carry out war games and looking at ways to game out some possible problems. they're going to start with the banking industry the first exercise will focus on the financial sector. it is an unprecedented arrangement, the u.k. has never done this with anyone else. so while there are other things they're going to talk about that
you would expect from someone on going on in afghanistan, iraq iran the nuclear program, and global economic concerns the main topic on the agenda is going to be what to do about the threat of terror here and abroad. >> and the press conference is at 11:00, kris? >> reporter: that's right. 11:00. they met last night as well had a nice dinner at the white house, including urban crusted lamb and warm pear cake. also told there was caramel popcorn available, a very american treat. but a very serious conversation going on around the meetings. >> and these conversations resume at 11:00. thank you so much, kris. pleasure to see you. >> reporter: good to see you, jose. thank you. now to europe where a series of raids took place in the last 24 hours. it unfolded in france belgium and germany. in belgium, police moved in hours before a plot to kill police was set to go in action. in all, nearly 30 were arrested including a dozen in paris. that's where we find ron allen
this morning. ron, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, jose. how are you? >> good. tell us a little about the sweeps and the relationship that may or may not exist between what happened where you are last week and what's been going on overnight. >> reporter: well, i think everybody across europe is just afraid what happened in paris last week could happen somewhere else. just to put this in perspective, from here to brussels is about three hours to belgium. from belgium, brussels to berlin, another few hours on a train. we're not talking about great distances, although talking about different countries. so all of this is happening in a very small area. i think all of europe for that matter is very concerned about terrorism and the threat of more terrorism. in belgium in particular authorities said they thought the suspects were within hours, hours of launching an attack. the attack would have been designed to kill police officers on the streets they said inside that house they raided where
they encountered gunfire and had a big firefight, they found weaponry, bomb making materials, they found police uniforms fake ids, they believe this was a plot that was really almost about to happen. big concern. in germany, raids at 11 different places, two suspects arrested. in paris, raids were directed at the particular incident last week. so the effort here apparently was to round up suspects who may have helped the gunmen here in some aspect of their plot. they're looking for drivers. still trying to determine how they got their weaponry, where were hideouts what about the money. all those things. who knew about this who may have been able to tip-off the authorities. as you've reported and as we have been saying authorities everywhere are trying to dig into networks to get to the bottom of things to try to prevent attacks before they might happen. and everyone is on a very heightened state of alert. >> from paris, ron allen.
thank you for being with me. greg miller national security correspondent for "the washington post," joins me this morning. good morning. >> hi jose, good morning. >> do you anticipate more intelligence agencies in more countries will launch anti-terror operations in the coming days, weeks? >> i think for sure in the coming weeks, not sure about days but yes. i think what happened in paris, these are all countries across europe that have been on heightened states of alert for better part of a year concerned about foreign fighters going to syria and coming back. what happened in paris is just sort of the onset of a nightmare scenario for them. i wouldn't be surprised if there are other raids as security services are more aggressive about trying to head this off. >> talk to me about the role of intelligence and actually cooperation of intelligence between european countries and even the united states. >> well you know it is interesting. there was a lot of hammering over the snowed enconcerns and
it is on-going. there's parliamentary inquiry into eavesdropping programs the united states is engaged in. but these countries now are also greatly dependent on the united states because the united states intelligence apparatus is just enormous compared to their capabilities. i was in berlin last month, berlin's total intelligence budget runs to maybe 600 million u.s. dollars, whereas, you know the agencies here in the united states have budgets approaching 50 billion. >> what a difference. and speaker boehner yesterday implied that some of the nsa eavesdropping may have helped catching the ohio guy who was apparently planning or thinking out plans to attack the capitol. is this something that europe is going to have to determine how to deal with that and even we here in the united states? >> sure and it is a really difficult question because each of these european governments draws its own calculation, makes
its own determination, balancing privacy and surveillance, so the british, and in fact the french are seen as particularly aggressive among european countries, so the fact that this plot unfolded there, and was successful and so devastating there, was doubly alarming. or european countries are not so aggressive. >> greg miller pleasure to see you. thanks for being with me this morning. >> thank you, sure. much more on the investigation through europe and new developments as we get them here on the rundown. up next mitt romney's big chance to win back republicans just hours away. details on how he is pitching the rnc, and whether he stands a chance for another presidential nomination. we will be framing that debate. later, a story we have been following closely on the rundown. major shift in relations with cuba goes into effect today, it is not just about travel cigars and old cars. we are separating fact from fiction today on the rundown.
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turning to the 2016 news that a lot of people are talking about, mitt romney's latest come back attempt. a growing number of republicans are saying not so fast. we will hear from the two time presidential candidate tonight, he will address the rnc winter meeting, it could be his big chance to pitch himself again to party leaders. joining me from the rnc meeting in california, msnbc kasie hunt. thank you for being with me. you have spoken with some rnc members, what do they want to hear from romney tonight? >> hey, jose. i think there will be a lot of pressure on romney to make more clear exactly what it is he intends, since this is all
broken we haven't heard from romney himself. we heard reports he is calling around, trying to build support for another bid. i have to tell you, i encountered quite a bit of skepticism at the rnc meeting. you have a core group of romney loyalists, family people and you have a group outside of that are people that feel a lot of loyalty to him, they worked for him maybe for almost ten years now, as long as he has been running for president. but beyond that there are a lot of people here who are sitting and wondering what is the rationale for doing this now, especially when the republican party has so many potentially new faces that they could offer up in 2016. >> david, how fierce is the winch he runs into with this party? >> what could mitt romney possibly say to republicans to convince him that he is the best candidate to defeat hillary clinton. when you put that question to republicans, even those that like mitt romney admire him, they don't have a quick answer.
remember, last time in 2012 republican party was never in love with mitt romney he was a better option than herman cain and rick santorum. now he has to vy with jeb bush chris christie scott walker. i don't think there is a rationale. he may say he should have been president, may say he should have beaten president obama because of things in the world today. but that's not a good enough rationale frankly. he has more competition this time. last guy to do this was richard nixon, the nominee for the party, went and lost came back ran again. i know he is going to cite ronald reagan that he ran three times. richard nixon is the last party nominee to have lost the nomination, come back and been the nominee again. >> and romney is surrounded by smart people he is apparently very smart. how do you think their logic came through that this was a time that maybe they could walk back in and get the nomination?
>> the discussions that david eluded to how the president faced crisis after crisis seen vladimir putin come back and start grabbing land and a lot of examples romney was mocked in 2012 for saying russia was our greatest geopolitical foe, and now he feels he is being vindicated. you've seen the camp around romney raise concerns about jeb bush. seen jeb bush take some jabs at mitt romney and that's a good way to get under the skin of the people that are close to romney to criticize how he did in 2012 and also in particular his business record and how he handled that in the context of the campaign. >> david, this could be a prooe primary primary. who is benefitting by all of this? >> you could argue that rand paul has benefitted by all of this. there was conventional wisdom thinking the right part of the
party, more conservative part of the party, usually divides up the vote. if you were to have chris christie jeb bush mitt romney and scott walker the governor of wisconsin, all get in the race you would still have more people on the right, but rand paul may be able to carve out a niche here. it is very early. we don't know the field, but eschar ving out a libertarian conservative coalition that may benefit in states like iowa and new hampshire, but it is early to tell until we know the field. i am skeptical that romney does this in the end, that he pulls the trigger. >> interesting. thanks for being with me. great to see you both. >> thanks. >> and joining me now to frame the debate ayesha moody mills. and polster chris wilson. thank you both for being here. >> good to be here. >> chris, you're a polster. if you took a poll of republican voters now, how do you think mitt romney would fair?
>> he would fair well but if you asked open end format he would be tied with everyone else. the big task for romney here and forward, what makes him different from the candidates that are good-looking getting in the race. why is it in 2012 he can't be the confident conservative being the drum while everyone else i am ploeds and it becomes a different situation. while he may see polls that show him leading, i think it is different today than what happens a year from now when we prepare for iowa and new hampshire. >> ayesha seems whatever mitt romney has done until now, not a lot of democrats or opposition people take him seriously as a candidate now. >> i don't think that the american public will take him all that seriously as a candidate. look he has a couple things against him. one, a documentary put out called mitt was good about his run, you got to look at his family and him through the process. one of the things that was
resounding, this wasn't a guy that wanted to run for president in the first place. he seemed to be pulled along by everybody else. you have to ask why. what is his motivation for wanting to do this. is it to serve the american people or is he a rich guy with nothing to do, figured he would throw his hat back in the ring. >> interesting. >> i think everyone can agree that barack obama was an extraordinary candidate, won't be in the mix next time. chris, who do you see as being the fire brands, people that people can get inspired over. >> you mean on the right or left? if you go to the left you have elizabeth warren who is bringing a lot of excitement with democrats. you look between focus group done last weekend in colorado in which you had democrats come out and were critical of hillary clinton as potential democratic nominee, and called for elizabeth warren type candidate. on the right, you have a lot of excitement created by rand paul was mentioned, ted cruz is bringing out a lot of excitement. and going back to the subject of
mitt romney, i liken it to college football playoffs. you have a moderate conservative slot which romney would have to come out of that field, you have jeb bush and chris christie there. rand paul for libertarian, evangelical slot rick santorum mike huckabee and the tea party slash movement conservative slot which i think i believe in 2016 that excitement will come from that pocket. that's where you have ted cruz's of the world that every time they speak brings out excitement that gets republican voters energized. a movement you haven't seen with the nominees. >> nominees as fired up as last time around? >> i think the democrats are already fired up. elizabeth warren did a great job of rallying the party around the tone the idea that 99% are who matter most in america and our policies need to be sure they are addressing the issues of the
99%. i think hillary clinton excites democrats. let's remind ourselves that she has like 60 sitting members who already endorsed her, completely unprecedented, given she hasn't said she's running. a pac dedicated to raising money, and the democratic establishment is thrilled about her running. i want us to remember people are excited about her, excited about a lot of others as well. i think the democrats have been eager to see what happens with a woman at the top of the ticket. >> thank you both for being with me. >> thank you. up next going to zoom through today's other stories making news including suspected capitol hill plotter facing his day in court, and opponents of same-sex marriage marriage let down by some comments from the pope this morning. how the pontiff seems to be changing his tune. and the west coast measles outbreak linked to disneyland now spreading to four states.
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developing now on the west coast, i want to take you live to oakland, california. protesters there trying to block access to the federal building, all part of a series of demonstrations that coincide with the long martin luther king junior weekend. they're calling the protests no business as usual, and advocating for black justice. some protesters chained themselves outside the federal building. we are watching this and will keep you posted on any developments on that front. some developing news from washington, maryland. the head of centers for medicare and medicaid services stepping down. has been a lightning rod of critics. the affordable care act she helped oversee sweeping changes to the nation's health care laws and implementation of the act. she joined the administration in 2010 has been called to testify before congress numerous times. in an e-mail to staff this
morning, hhs secretary sylvia matthews berwell thachked her for exemplary service and extraordinary record of accomplishment. the pope on same-sex marriage, and more cases of measles. let's zoom through today's other top stories. the ohio man arrested and charged with plotting to set off bombs and shoot government officials at the u.s. capitol due for his first court appearance this afternoon. 20-year-old christopher cornell was arrested at a shooting range after he purchased two assault rifles and 600 rounds of ammunition. according to court documents, investigators began to watch him last august after he posted pro-isis messages on twitter, using an alias. pope francis making strongest comments on the recognition of same-sex marriage. saying this morning in manilla, quote, the family is also threatened by growing efforts on part of some to redefine the
institution of marriage. these realities increasingly under attack from powerful forces which threaten to disfigure god's plan for creation. the pope on a five day visit to the philippines, largest catholic nation. philadelphia preparing for a visit in september. the number of measles cases from disneyland continues to grow. california health officials say 35 cases there, two in utah one in colorado and washington bringing the total infected to 39. the outbreak linked to unvaccinated visitor to disneyland last month. most patients visited or were in contact with someone in disneyland between the 15th and the 20th of december. seems like the flu is everywhere. now we know why. more than three-quarters of americans that got that flu shot could still get the virus, because according to the cdc, the strain mutated just enough to reduce the vaccine
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flashpoint global partners. thanks for being with me. >> hi jose. >> you heard the prosecutor in belgium say attack could have been hours away. how do you think they got the intelligence? >> i think european intelligence apparatus is actually pretty mighty. they have a much larger network of intelligence sharing with other european countries as well as some intelligence coordination with the united states. i think it could have been one of many different scenarios, they could have gotten a tip, they could have been these individuals were allegedly under surveillance many months after returning from syria likely getting ideological and weapons training. it is crucial that the belgium authorities and other authorities don't disclose all information they have in fear there might be more individuals who might be part of this larger plot, if you will and they might be still at large. >> i found it interesting they said there was no real relationship between what happened in paris and what
happened overnight and yet everything seems to be happening a week after the attack horrible attack in paris. >> indeed. it appears too much of a coincidence. however, the attacks or possible plot in belgium could have been motivated by what took place in france. we don't know if they have a direct connection or not. if anything could have at least had some inspirational connection. >> i know you closely follow terror chatter in social media. what are you seeing? >> there has been a lot of jubilation on a number of jihadi platforms online, everybody who supports groups like islamic state or al qaeda has been praising attacks in the west especially countries involved in u.s. led coalition of islamic state of iraq and syria, and see this is almost direct response to islamic state calling for retaliation in western countries. >> you have al qaeda in yemen
that we hadn't heard a lot about in the last couple months because of isis's preeminence. they seem to be picking up speed. >> al qaeda in arabian peninsula is probably the deadliest al qaeda branch today, it is a group that attempted to carry out potentially very deadly attacks on the united states whether it is the airliner bomb plot or printer cartridge bomb plots intercepted before reaching the united states the kidnapping and execution of luke summers, they're targeting western individuals overseas and in yemen, preached on and off attacks, specifically in the united states they basically are continuing the legacy of bin laden. they keep the focus specifically on western targets. they're not looking exactly for territorial expansion. isis is looking for both global
aspirations and actual local expansion in the region. >> thank you for your time. >> thank you. as europe steps up its crackdown on terror cells, the u.s. is turning up the heat on isis. nbc news chief correspondent joins us from tel aviv with the latest. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. the department of defense announced today that 400 of its soldiers will be deployed to train moderate syrian rebels. in addition to that announcement, the u.s. confirmed that that training will take place both in saudi arabia qatar, and turkey. that may be a surprise to some. the u.s. has been equipping and arming some of the moderate syrian rebels. now it is confirming its own troops will be involved in the training of those rebels. it is certainly going to raise a lot of questions ahead of president obama's state of the union address next week. also one place not getting perhaps as much attention as that fight against isis is in gaza an area where there has been tremendous amount of
tension in the past several months and has certainly been a major stumbling block for the united states as it tries to get peace efforts back on track. in fact earlier this week i traveled to gaza to see how people there were coping with reconstruction efforts. we wanted to come back into gaza to see how gaza was coping nearly seven months after the war, and to see how reconstruction efforts have been going. it is supposed to have well under way now. as you can see, the damage is still very much visible. during the war we had a chance to meet this man and his family 60 people living in a single apartment after this building here, which was their family home was destroyed. him and his brothers and their wives and children all lived here. as a result of an israeli shelling, they were forced to leave and are now scattered across gaza. we have come into the home where they're living now. this is his father's house. some of it was damaged. they repaired some of it to make it liveable.
by no means is this a safe place for them to be living but they have no choice. they put up a bed sheet to block the wind and rain. it has been a harsh winter. the view from their house, you can see the entire neighborhood has been destroyed. you can literally see the buildings next door and what remains of that. there's no electricity here. no running water. they're burning wood. you can see the family here is collecting whatever wood they can from the building trying to use that to start fires at night to stay warm. you can see there's a draft of air coming through here. this is definitely no place for anyone to be sleeping. this is where they slept for a month and a half after the war. everywhere you go in gaza you still see the signs of destruction and war. people are literally tearing down their own houses trying to salvage any scrap metal they can in this home. so we were talking to ahmed, 26
years old, works with a team of about three people. they come to homes like this one or buildings like this to salvage whatever they can from the bombed out buildings. they try to get metal in the roofing and floors they can then go out and sell it on the local market. the reason they're doing that since the end of the war, no construction supplies are coming in. there's a shortage of concrete cement of glass, of this kind of steel and iron rods they need to rebuild homes. as a result they come here and they're only making a couple dollars a day from what they salvage. this is the only way they can survive. more importantly, it is the only way for others trying to rebuild their homes to get supplies that haven't been coming in. in addition to that gaza ministry of health confirm that four people four children have died as a result of hypothermia. they have effectively frozen to death because they simply don't have access to enough heat or electricity to sustain
themselves through the harsh winters. but all of this has a lot of people concerned if the situation on the ground does not improve for the people of gaza it can force arise intention between israel and hamas, and once again lead to an all out conflict. that would certainly be disastrous for people on both sides of the border. u.n. officials are warning what is happening in gaza, jose is a humanitarian disaster. >> thank you so much. don't miss ayman mohyeldin's chatter, 1:00 p.m. eastern, 10:00 a.m. pacific. #msnbcchat. now to a story we have been following closely on the rundown, major shift in trade and travel regulations with cuba that go into effect today. regulations the state department say is one step in the new relationship with cuba. >> there's a series of milestones that will have to be part of this moving forward. one of those was prisoners being released. one of them was announcing new
regulations. one of them will be the first set of normalization talks, then we will keep hitting milestones as we go. >> joining me to talk about what these new regulations mean as we get reports that at least two of 53 political prisoners that were on the list have been rearrested is a consultant with extensive peerns, president of national sugar mill owners of cuba. thank you for joining me. >> pleasure to be here. >> a new era in relations between the united states and cuba. and a lot of people in the administration say this is going to be very helpful, especially to the cuban people in the future. >> well i hope they're right, jose but it is a problematic assumption. >> why? >> because cuba is a totalitarian state. it is not the case for example, in south africa 25 years ago where there was an act of private sector. so american investment in the private sector in south africa could help blacks against the
apartheid regime. in cuba there's no such private sector. >> people on their own have -- >> small businesses. >> they can be helped. >> the idea is to help them but it is difficult to pinpoint and help them without enriching the coffers of the regime state security apparatus. >> a lot of people say for 54 years when the embargo was fully supported by the administrations, there was that same reality that you describe a reality that's been existing since 1959. >> right. but now, jose we run the risk if this proceeds and congress may push back the president has arguably acted outside the statutory and constitutional parameters he had on the issue. >> the president has a right to foreign relations. >> he does. i'm saying there will be push back from congress. let's assume it goes forward. hard to reel back in symbolically if incrementally it goes forward. what happens to american businessmen? they're thrust into a situation
eventually when they can do business there, where there's no rule of law, no independent courts, lawyers, independent arbitration panels. they run afoul of the regime like canadians or spaniard can be jailed, accounts frozen assets seized. >> the rest of the world has been trading with cuba openly for 50 something years, and you don't see that as being a real issue. >> you know i think recently you have seen a reduction of canadian and western european investment you saw in cuba in the '90s for this reason. the other thing, jose remember the property issue has not been resolved. >> talk about that. you focused a lot on that. 6,000 businesses or small corporations were seized from the regime to american citizens in cuba. >> at the time of the confiscation in 1960. then there was other tens to hundreds of thousands of seizures are people who are now
american citizens. so if cuba is to be able to attract the massive foreign investment that it will need to dig itself out of the hole the totalitarian system left after a half century, they have to do something dramatic on that property issue, they have to resolve that issue to let new investors -- >> how do you resolve that issue. >> well if you look at what happened in eastern and central europe there was a claims process set up which resulted in compensation or restitution to the claimants. and indeed u.s. law requires significant progress on this issue before normalization of relations. the reason that exists is because otherwise you have potentially american tourists going on american cruise ships to piers or ports that were seized from american citizens you have them staying in hotels that are built on land seized from american citizens you have importation of -- >> so are there claims currently? where are they held these
claims? >> 5911 certified american claims, people who are americans at the time of seizure are deposited with foreign claims settlement commission in washington. there is no similar registry for the much larger number of cuban american claims. you know i worked with clients in that area for years, and the cubans don't hide the fact they took these properties they feel the revolution gave them the right to do it. they know who is who. many sensible foreign investors do due diligence and avoid properties with outstanding claims on them. >> nicholas gutierrez, another aspect of this complicated relationship that we are talking about. thanks for being with me. we will be continuing this story. up next something we don't hear enough about, talking about the economic recovery. troubling rate of poverty in america. today in atlanta, business and
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community, business and civic leaders, including heads of state, are gathering in atlanta for the hope global forum to tackle economic issues like this one. msnbc is a proud sponsor of this. let's go live to atlanta and msnbc national reporter trymaine lee. good morning. >> good morning. >> tell me about the foreman and guests we have today. >> the theme of this year's conference is expanding the global economy, and free enterprise for all. so a few minutes ago i spoke with the founder of the hope foundation, john hope bryant and he described it as a room of millionaires next to 00 airs. you give people access to entrepreneurs and credit you change entire communities, and because of that lack of access community leaders and business leaders haven't seen the true value in so many underserved and underutilized communities. so there are programs where young entrepreneurs as young as
ninth grade can pitch ideas to the ceos of chick-fil-a and cinnabon and other leaders with the idea you get people in the room, get people to reimagine what is possible with entrepreneurship, you can change families and whole communities, again by that access that will fill them with pride, hope and all things associated with that kind of economic success that will lift them from those kind of low income communities that are suffering. >> and how does poverty, the rate change when you look at the minority communities? we give some numbers in the beginning of this, it is tragedy tragedy. 14.5% living below the poverty line. you look at our communities, there i think we see a much more troubling picture. >> right. when you look at particularly black and hispanic communities where the poverty rates hover around 25 26 27%, undergirds the social and class issues in terms of crime and what happens
when students arrive at schools unprepared and drop out early. john hope bryant associated that to issues in ferguson. michael brown, who was apparently stealing cigars if he had a job, wouldn't be out there stealing those things. all of these things come down to economics. this forum is around things to elevate those folks. >> thanks for being with me. >> thank you. >> ronan farrow is broadcasting today live from hope global forum. catch that at 1:00 p.m. eastern, 10:00 a.m. pacific time on msnbc. so pythons, alligators mosquitos the size of baseball not just friday night in a south beach disco. what many in south florida deal with on a regular basis. now you have to add hungry bears wandering neighborhoods in florida. it has officials dealing with a proposal to deal with the explosion of wild bears in the state. the problem is so bad, they're considering a bear hunt.
kerry sanders joins me with the latest on that. good morning. >> reporter: jose part of the problem is right over my shoulder there, the garbage cans. bears this time of year think they need to stock up because it is a time they would hibernate. they're out looking for food knocking over garbage cans and getting some food. in florida, it never gets cold enough for bears to have to hibernate, so now the state says with all of the bears roaming in urban areas like this the best solution may be to authorize a hunt. >> oh, he has a bag of food. >> reporter: what started as a novelty, black bears roaming through neighborhoods in central florida has become a deadly threat. with more and more people being attacked. >> she came in screaming. she said a bear attacked her. >> i saw this large bear charging at me. she opened her jaw and clamped down onto my head and i could
just hear her teeth marks going through my scalp. >> reporter: increasingly folks in the bear zone now carry weapons to protect themselves and with good reason. in the last year there have been four bear attacks in florida. >> so i'm out in this neighborhood and we're just driving around and sure enough there's a bear walking right through somebody's yard. part of the problem is that the bears actually trap some people in their homes where they can't get out. bear hunts in florida were banned in the 1990s after years of urban development caused a severe decline in the bear population. since then state wildlife officials estimate the number of black bears in florida has jumped from 1300 in 1994 to more than 3,000 today. now there's a move to make bear hunts legal again. scott plaken is a florida
legislator that lives in the bear zone. >> this is the first captured days. >> in two days in his front yard, the state trapped three bears. he favors bear hunts. >> when it comes down to bear versus human conflict which we have now seen seen injuries thank god no deaths, people first, bears second. >> reporter: opponents say hunting bears is not the answer. >> will hunting solve the problem of human bear conflicts? no. they're separate issues. there's no published studies that show that. >> reporter: part of the problem with the hunt is that bears are here in an urban area. how do you allow hunters to shoot bears when there's people walking around. it could be a deadly mix. for the time being, state officials say the best advice is to take bear maise with them. this should take down a 600 pound bear. >> kerry sanders, unless that bear is used to the spray, in which case he is going to be an even more upset bear.
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