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from detroit lakes, minnesota. let's get to work. >> there's a big competition out here. i'm not going to choose sides. >> i don't want to make peoples lives better by giving them somebody else's money. >> it's people who raise their voices and yell and scream like you that are dividing this country. >> let me start over. >> sit down and shut up. >> you've got isis. they've got the wrong fill lostyphilosophy philosophy, but they are willing to die for what they believe. >> these are dangerous, extreme, radical times. >> i do not like this uncle sam. >> i was interested to see how they got out of bed extra early
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this morning because they couldn't wait for opening day. cranking up the crazy from the middle of the country. good to have you with us tonight, folks. we start with the iowa summit. there will be a number of 2016 presidential hopefuls over the weekend. don't leave out ben carson. they're all going to be there. steve king is no stranger to controversy. this comment a few years back caused major headaches for the republican party. >> there are kids that were brought into this country by their parents unknowing that they were breaking the law. they will say to me and others who defend the rule of law we have to do something about the 11 million. some of them are valedictorians. their parents brought them in. it wasn't their fault. it's true in some cases.
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they're not all valedictorians. for every one that is a valedictorian, there's another one out there. they have calves the size of cantaloupes because they're bringing marijuana across the desert. >> he continues to use disturb disturbing rhetoric when it comes to immigration. obama invites a deportable to sit in place of honor at the state of the union with the first lady. i should sit with aledo, he tweeted. his distinguished guests have their own set of issues. chris christie, has he really gotten rid of the controversy? christie can barely make it through a public event without losing his temper. >> you know what? let me tell you this. you know what? it's people who raise their
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voices and yell and scream like you that are dividing this country. >> if what you want to do is put on a show and giggle every time i talk, i have no interest in answering your question. >> i can go back and forth with you as much as you want. let me tell you something. after you graduate from law school, you conduct yourself like that in a courtroom, your rear end is going to get thrown in jail you idiot. >> really? something may go down tonight, but it is not going to be jobs, sweetheart. >> let's not forget bridge gate. it is just hard to shake off, whether he was involved or not. it's on his watch. it's dropped roughly 30%, to its lowest level since june of 2011. i think his temper has a lot to
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do with that drop in the poll. then we have scott walker. >> i'll tell you what scott. once you bust these bastards i'll fly you out to cali. >> that'll be outstanding. we appreciate it. we're doing it for the right reasons and it is all about getting our freedom back. >> and we have a little bit of vested interest as well. >> the john doe investigation into scott walker's administration is still ongoing. his campaign is accused of illegally coordinating with outside political groups. then we have the good doctor ben carson. >> a bunch of rag tag militia men defeated the most powerful and professional military force on the planet. why? because they believed in what
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they were doing. they were willing to die for what they believed in. the british were not. fast forward to today. what do we have? you've got isis. they got the wrong philosophy but they're willing to die for what they believe while we are busily giving away every belief and every value for the sake of political correctness. we have to change that. >> carson comparing isis to america's founding fathers is the latest in a long line of disturbing remarks. let's not forget the sweater vest campaign. rick santorum will also be at the summit this weekend.
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>> i don't want to make people's lives better by giving them somebody else's monies. i want to give them the opportunity to provide for themselves and their families. >> i looked at the quote and the video. i'm pretty confident i didn't say black. i started to say a word and sort of mumbled it and changed my thought. no one in that audience no reporter there, heard me say that. i think it was from everything i have seen -- i was starting to say one word and i sort of came up with a different word and moved on and it sounded like black. >> don't you feel like going to iowa this weekend? ted cruz of texas, he's going to be there too. >> say, i like green eggs and ham. i do. i like them sam i am and i would eat them in a boat and i would
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eat them with a goat and i will eat them in the rain and in the dark and on a train and in a car and in a tree. they are so good so good you see. >> let's not forget the reverend mike huckabee on board. >> if the democrats want to insult the women of america by making them believe they are helpless without uncle sugar coming in because they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system without the help of the government so be it. because women are far more than the democrats have played them to be and women need to stand up and say, enough of that nonsense. >> with that highlight reel and all of these folks going to iowa do you kind of understand why mitt romney is thinking about running again? this collection makes bush and romney look pretty doggone normal.
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the cast of characters is flying out to iowa to see if they compare to joni ernst. republicans were running away from steve king as fast as possible. now they're begging for his support and they're all looking to become the tea party darling. how is it going do unfold? you have to cover these folks because they have limited the number of debates that are going to be coming up before the 2016 election. tonight's question. does anyone at the freedom summit have a chance of becoming president? text a for yes. text b for no. drop a comment. we'll bring you the results later on in the show. romney and bush not going to be there. maybe they think they can't get the tea party vote. maybe they feel like they don't have to go to iowa. let's bring in john fugelsang
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and a congressman. gentlemen, this entertainment in iowa is free. nobody is charging for anything. shouldn't there be a ticket price on this kind of entertainment? why are these guys begging for steve king's support, it seems like? >> iowa is the caucus. this is tea party idol. they have to show up and make a really good showing in that first caucus if they hope to get a fund raising edge. mitt romney and jeb bush don't have to worry about that at the end of the day. it's going to be terrific entertainment. as a comedian i look forward to buying a boat off these guys. >> why is steve king a player in the middle of the country? does his endorsement mean anything to win the iowa caucus?
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>> this freedom summit is about anything but freedom. it is about anti-immigrant bigotry. these guys are caught between what they have to do to get nominated and what they have to do to get elected. i will be intrigued to see chris christie at this event. i want to see whether mr. candor becomes mr. pander. whether the bully gets bullied. bush isn't there. romney isn't there. but if they run for president and they decide they're going to run in iowa they're going to have to run the right wing gauntlet gauntlet. he's now for permanent residency, which won't satisfy his base and will alienate the
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latinos. >> if you just show up well in iowa -- >> i think it is critical in the democratic party and it has been decisive in the democratic party a number of times. in the republican party, it is such a narrow slice of people who dominant that process that you can have a rick santorum win. it's been harder and harder for the establishment to impose their choice. we're going to see whether or not a ted cruz a rand paul one of these other people this collection of clowns this band of boobs, whether one of them
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can emerge. >> it's going to see how pointed they'll get to one another. how much division will actually be there. is this going to be one of these tap dances who can out tea party somebody else? >> i think you're right. they'll all work together. they'll know she's going to win no matter what. you'll see a lot more bare knuckle knuckle brawling because only two or three of these guys are going to be running for president. chris christie is the wild card much like reverend sharpton in the democratic field in 2004. chris christie will keep us awake during these debates. chris christie's problem is the tea party because he worked with
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a democratic president to help the hurricane ravaged citizens of his own state. that's be a lot of fun to watch. >> yeah. john, let me ask you this. fred thompson does the reverse mortgage commercials. which one of these guys do you think would be a good replacement? >> ted cruz. the rest of them are running to salvage the family name looking at you jeb, or looking at rand paul to guarantee a future in public speaking. >> might mike huckabee be the guy to beat in this field? he's run before. he didn't have the money the last time. he's very polished in front of the crowd. he's a former governor.
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this guy knows who he is more than any of them. >> the first is to become the tea party right wing candidate. i think he's well positioned to do that. the big question about him is whether he can raise the money. by the way, i have to tell john i don't think ted cruz can sell reverse mortgages because you have to be likable. henry winkler is likable. you don't send him to the general public. >> that's true. >> that would be a big mistake. >> go ahead, bob. >> the other thing that's happening is this romney-bush thing is very important. one of them is going to emerge as the establishment choice are they're going to split the vote and make it easier for one of
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these clowns to get through. >> don't underestimate huckabee. >> jonathan carl is going to moderate a forum between rubio and cruz out in california. i kind of view this as almost like the nfl scouting combine. they bring these players in to see how they're going to perform not in front of the public and they can get more of a executescrutiny and a close-up evaluation. are their ethical issues here with jonathan carl doing something like this? >> when i heard about this i thought is carl going to ask some tough questions.
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is he going to subject these people to real scrutiny? if he does that it'll be fine. i don't think he'll be throwing softballs. >> he's going to ask them tough questions to see who can handle it. >> isn't this an audition to see who the coke brothers are going to support? >> if you want to get rid of inequality get money out of politics. >> go ahead, bob. >> this is a conclave of economic royalists who are going to make it impossible for republicans to address income inequality. they're messed up on the social issues and the economic issues. i think they're in a tight spot. >> well put. great to have both of you with us tonight. remember to answer tonight's question there at the bottom of the screen. we always want to know what you think. coming up twin astronauts team up for a ground-breaking
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last month we launched a new spacecraft as part of a new reenergized space program that will send astronauts to space. scott kelly will begin a yearlong stay in space. good luck captain. make sure to instagram it. >> scott kelly got a state of the union sendoff this week as scientists pushed the limits of
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space exploration. he'll travel to the international space station this march. >> to boldly go where no man has gone before. >> captain scott kelly is preparing to spend one year in space. >> kelly has launched into space three times before. >> it's twice the length of a typical stay for an american on the international space station. >> the fact i have flown a long duration flight before gives me a little perspective on what it is like. >> our bodies are built for an earth environment. >> kelly joins two russian astronauts on a one year mission. >> if we ever want to send someone to mars we need to learn what it takes for someone to live in space for a long
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period of time. >> we know what the effect is for six-month missions. muscle loss the effects on our immune system. >> and the eyes can lose their shape and effect vision. >> mark kelly is no stranger to space as well. >> i have 54 days in space. >> but this time mark's mission is back on earth. >> i asked the question when i was assigned to this one-year flight whether any study like this would be done. >> this is a unique opportunity to do a unique class of studies with one twin in space and the other twin on the ground. >> our genes, when the egg split, were exactly the same. >> we can study two individuals
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who have the same genetics but are in different locations. >> they want to look what the space environment has done to my rna, dna, protein. >> it will put us in a better position to explore far beyond earth. >> we understand our physiology better on a mars flight. the decade after that it is something we can accomplish. >> joining me tonight is mark kelly. great to have you with us tonight. i am fascinated by all of this space exploration. my dad was an aifviator. i'm fascinated by this. first of all captain, is your brother in a position where every astronaut would like to be? this is some pretty dangerous stuff, too.
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he's up there for a year going to be a ginuinea pig. >> he's not in a place where every astronaut would want to be. they're challenging not only in the person in space but on the families. to spend a year in space is a huge commitment. there are other people who would love to do it, but it is a big commitment. >> how do you mentally prepare for something like this? >> you try to get all your affairs in order on earth, try to prepare your family and your friends and your loved ones for being gone a long period of time, he leaves in a month to go to russia and he won't be back until march of 2016. he's going to spend two
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birthdays one in russia and one off the planet. you have to make sure your electric bill is going to get paid and take out the garbage. >> how much are we going to learn? you, of course have been 54 days in space during four missions and i believe the longest we have been up there is like six months. but to go that full year how much more are we going to learn and how critical is this going to be for us to be able to go to mars sometime? >> we hope we learn a lot. that's the idea behind doing this. i mean we're looking at how the radiation effects his genes and the dna andennd what this does to our immune system. we have issues with the optic nerve with people spending a long time in space. if we're going to go to mars one
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day, we have a pretty good sense of what is going to take from an engineering standpoint. but what we don't know is how that long-term effect of being in space, and then on the surface of mars and coming back what's that going to be like on the human body? this is an incremental step from six months to a year to try to learn more about how this is going to effect the physiology of an astronaut. >> is your brother excited about this? >> he's excited. it's a big commitment. it's going to be challenging. astronauts usually start to have some bigger challenges about the four-month point in space. i know for him the last time when he flew six months i could sense that he was getting ready to come home. we don't know if that's because
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it is 2/3 into the flight or is there something about that four-month duration, so there's a little anxiety, but there is excitement. >> captain kelly, when are we going to be on mars and does this mission really determine that timetable? >> i wanted to be the first person to walk on mars. when i was in high school, i remember thinking about that. it's not going to be me but i'm pretty sure -- i'm very hopeful the first person to walk on mars is alive today. i can't tell you when that is going to be. could it be within 20 years? i think that's very possible. >> great to have you with us. all the best to your brother and thanks for all you have done for the country and the mission that you are on day-to-day. thank you so much sir. i appreciate your time. coming up, what a shift in saudi leadership could mean for oil prices? and america's past time could take less time.
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transform tomorrow. welcome back to "the ed show." we love hearing from our viewers. appreciate the questions. our first question comes from larry. he wants to know how about a joe biden run for president. hey, i'm all for it. the better the competition. the better the debate. great guy. great democratic values. years of experience. eight years vice president. he has as good credentials as anybody out there. anybody. joe biden has as good a credentials as anybody. xan xander wants to know do you plan to meet with president obama and set him straight on tpp? i don't have the president on my
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schedule right now. i would love to visit with the president again. i have before. seriously, if i had an opportunity to visit with president obama, i would ask him why are you so enamored with this deal? i don't get it. i don't know why he likes this. i don't think that the white house has explained the transpacific partnership to the american people and they have taken it away and hidden it from congress and debate. stick around. rapid response panel is next. we're right back on "the ed show." i'm morgan brennan. the dow falls 141 points. the s&p sheds 11. the nasdaq rises 7 points.
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king abdullah has a long history with us not just in his work with counterterrorism, but on his work on interfaith understanding. >> it is a loss for the middle east. >> king abdullah left a tangible
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legacy that can still point the way toward the peace in the middle east. >> he is going to leave a big legacy, but a big loss as well. >> welcome back to "the ed show." the 90-year-old abdullah died friday morning weeks after being admitted to the hospital in december. he was said to be suffering from a lung infection. abdullah is succeeded by his brother. salman is 79 years old and is said to be in poor health and suffering dementia. abdullah was seen as a reformer. he was a key u.s. ally in the fight against extremist groups like al qaeda and isis. president obama praised abdullah for takinge inging bold steps and
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advancing the peace initiative. unrest in yemen and syria has resulted in a power vacuum in the region. saudi arabia produced enough oil barrels to satisfy 11% of oil demand. in the wake of abdullah's death, oil prices surged this morning with brent crude rising nearly 2%. i am joined tonight by steve clemons and michael o'hanlen. steve, what are the geopolitical implications here? there are a lot of compliments
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coming from world leaders and the loss of this saudi arabian leader, what does it mean? is it going to have a big shift in policy at all for saudi arabia? >> well the bottom line ed is it could have a big shift. there's no monarchy in the world that gets rid of a king and gets a new king as quickly in place as saudi arabia. the process has been smooth stable, and a whole raft of sort of rapid response changes in personnel in the royal court happened today. that said saudi arabia has for a time been inching to a belief that the united states today isn't what it used to be. it isn't the guarantor or the stabilizer it used to be. saudi arabia feels like it needs to fill a void left by an absence of strategy by the united states.
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it sees iran and iran's influence riseing in the region. it sees yemen in disarray. it sees syria and the invasion of iraq as part of the mismanagement of u.s. foreign policy. all of those things are going to be challenges for the new king and his leadership. sometimes they need a small country to bomb. to some degree, the king is going to have to find a way to demonstrate he has stature, wiz wisdom wisdom, and power to act on some of these threats that are rising. >> michael, what does this mean for u.s. security? will we see the same support in the fight against groups like isis? >> well i thought steve did a nice job of laying out the basics. while i would join in saying abdullah has a positive legacy on a number of issues, there are some areas that need to improve.
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it may be unrealistic with a 79-year-old succeeded him. i'm not blaming abdullah directly but i think his unwillingness to try to mend fences a little bit with the new iraqi government was a problem. also the hard line fundamentalist teachings of the sunniss have continued to be a major issue for us. they create a fertile breeding ground for al qaeda extremists. i'm no friend of the muslim
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brotherhood but if you stamp down each person affiliated with it as has happened in egypt, you have some problems. we have to hope for better. that may be unrealistic in the short term but i would not underscore and just celebrate abdullah's successes. he will be expecting us to help him -- the successor will be expecting us to help deal with the iranian threat. they have no place else to go on that one. >> that's my next question. i want to have both of you comment on this. steve, how do these ongoing talks between the united states and iran over teheran's nuclear program come into play? are they a big wheel in this, steve? >> i think it is a remarkably important moment ed. i'm in france.
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i was at the ministry of defense here in paris today. there's a lot of eyeballing what the iranians are doing and whether a deal is viable or not but they have the impression the obama white house, wants a deal very badly and this is a way that obama can show that america can change the way global gravity works. that said saudi arabia and the large sunnis population in the broad middle east believe this basically turns over the region and creates a new hedgemon of extremism. so it's a very big mess. it looks like president obama is not going over to the funeral of king abdullah. joe biden is. joe biden is important. i agree with you he should run for president. when you have a nation as important as saudi arabia
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doubting america's support of it at a time you're about to perhaps strike a big deal a historic deal of enormous proportion, then you need to kind of level both sides. >> what do you think, michael, on the iranian equation on a nuclear program, the saudis in this transition? >> the saudis have to recognize the united states is still going to be militarily engaged in the region and therefore they still have some pretty good help. they may wish for a perfect world in which iran has no nuclear weapons. they can't produce that world. we can't produce that world. we need to remind them to be flexible. >> do you think the united states -- do you think the president is doing the right thing? it seems like president obama is holding off congress. there's even some democrats who want some sanctions to move things along. the president seems very determined to play this out as far as he possibly can.
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is that the right move as you see it? >> i think president obama is right to think we should wait now, but i think we need to celebrate that we have created a pretty good good cop/bad cop dynamic. >> this one is not-- having said that a deal is still a long shot, no matter what your stance is on sanctions. >> great to have both of you with us tonight. i appreciate your time. still to come deflate gate gets pumped. stay with us. we're right back.
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boring and the game moving a little too slow for some folks, but baseball is taking notice of these criticisms and there may be some changes on the way. they can this out. now, experiments with the 20-second pitch clock worked in the arizona fall league season. now it's moving up to the big time. baseball commissioner bud selig said the clock won't hit the majors yet, but a discussion is in the works. major league baseball already has a rule against sluggish game play. rule 8.04 says when the bases are occupied the pitcher shall deliver the ball to the batter within 12 seconds after he receives the ball. the rule is designed to eliminate slow play but umpires, they never enforce it. not everyone's a fan of picking up the pace. here's what former baseball
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player and manager pete rose had to say. >> what's the big deal? who's in a hurry? a baseball game is going to take from 2 1/2 hours to 3 hours. a football game is going to take the same. i don't know why everybody's in a hurry. >> i will admit that the intricacies of the game could be lost with some purist fans but i do kind of disagree. i would like to see the clock and let's play ball. see what happens. there's a lot more coming up on "the ed show." stay tuned. ♪ the bold nissan rogue, with intuitive all-wheel drive. because winter needs a hero. now save up to $1,000 when you finance the 2015 nissan rogue. ♪ your eyes really are unique. in fact, they depend on a unique set of nutrients.
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i think people somehow get a skewed view of tom brady, that he's just a clean-cut ask everything right and never says a bad word to anyone. and we know him to be otherwise. >> the fallout of deflate-gate continues. late this afternoon the nfl released a statement on their investigation. it reads, the goals of the investigation will be to determine the explanation for why footballs used in the game were not in compliance with the playing rules and specifically whether any noncompliance was the result of deliberate action. we have not made any judgments on these points and will not do so until we have concluded our investigation and considered all of the relevant evidence. sounds like the nfl's working on it. well former players and big names from the league say that they're having a hard time believing new england patriots quarterback tom brady's denial. troy aikman pro football hall
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of famer and fox analyst gave a candid reaction to deflate-gate on dallas sports radio. >> it's obvious that tom brady had something to do with it. i know going back to when i played, they've loosened up the rules in terms of what each team is able to do with the footballs coming into the game. used to be the home team provided all the ball. now each team brings their footballs the way that they like them. you can break them in. used to you couldn't break them in. so for the balls to have been deflated, that doesn't happen unless the quarterback wants that to happen. i can assure you of that. >> other big names questioning brady include former steelers running back jerome bettis former pro football quarterback mark brunell and also john madden. terence moore, national sports columnist and visiting journalist professor at university of miami ohio.
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what do you make of it now? aikman says it's obvious that tom brady had something to do with this. what's your call? >> ed you gave a lot of big names. i'll give you another big name. dan reeves. i literally got off the phone with dan reeves not too long ago, and dan reeves has been associated with the national football league and for 50 years literally as a player as a coach, he participated in more super bowls than anybody as a player or a coach. nine super bowls. and he flat-out said all these people talking about well this has always been done in the national football league. he pointed out that bill belichick has been involved in more controversies than any head coach he could ever think of. and everybody's talking about this situation or spy-gate, but they forget about his substitution patterns that right on the borderline of being illegal. he's also monkeyed around with the injury report. the thing that dan reeves said and he doesn't have to do it. he's out of control, he's addicted to doing this crazy
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stuff. >> that's interesting. aikman not only talked about it being brady's fault, but he brought up bounty-gate and the case against ray rice to challenge the nfl using ignorance as an excuse. do you think the nfl is using ignorance as an excuse thinking that this is just going to go away and maybe just are willing to give liberty to the quarterbacks who want a softer football to play? >> well you know what? i will say this nfl had a very good day today. they're going to have no choice but to because of the fiasco ta took place with the ray rice video, but i want to tell you something, head. when this is all said and done the person who should be nailed the most is bill belichick. right now the nfl should be doing that old howard baker think of watergate, what did the president know and when did he know it because bill belichick is the biggest control freak of the nfl. dan reeves basically said so.
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he's so into detail three or four years ago three of four of his players showed up late to a practice in the middle of a blizzard and even called to say they were going to be late he sent them home because he was so upset. you got to figure this guy has got to know how many ounces are in every football that's out there. even if you take him at his word, i didn't know anything about this he's the ultimate dictator. you don't think as soon as he found out there was a problem with the football that mound morn -- monday morning he didn't pick up the phone and find out what did happen. so either way he's a guy that should be nailed badly. >> yeah. what's the proper punishment here? he threw it off on the quarterback, the quarterback came out and said hey, i don't know anything about it. quickly, what's the proper punishment here if any? >> this is more serious than bounty-gate. you suspended that coach, sean payton for the entire year. he should get at least that and he should get out of the super bowl. he should not be there next week
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when i get there to arizona, i shouldn't be seeing bill belichick. >> terence moore, thank you for your time. big weekend for "the ed show." i'll be in nebraska tomorrow. the story continues about the pipeline. the senate doing all kinds of votes this week but it's up to those hundred landowners who filed lawsuit on eminent do main. "politics nation" is coming from overseas tonight. there's two absolutes. there's big ben, then there's reverend al. reverend al in london. good evening rev! >> good evening, ed and thanks to you for tuning in. i'm live tonight from the great city of london endemand. i'm here as part of a trip highlighting the global challenges we face on civil rights policing inequality and economic opportunity. earlier today i spoke with members of parliament in the house of commons and other

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