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good morning. i'm jose diaz-balart, and first on "the rundown," phoning mitt romney. we could learn some potentially major 2016 news this morning. the gop's candidate in 2008 and 2012 will be holding a call with supporters at 11:00 a.m. eastern. getting everyone to wonder just why? we'll watch all the developments
throughout "the rundown," and i want to start with nbc's political reporter glenn murray and peter alexander who covered the last romney campaign. gentlemen, good morning. mark, start with you. we know the call will happen. do we know if mitt will announce? >> well, what we do know is he's holding a conference call with some of his closest supporters and advisers from his past presidential campaign run. and the hunch is and jose this is not a certainty. the hunch is he'll continue to pursue the presidential bid he's been hinting at for weeks now and but we don't know for certain. what we do know is this jose -- that the ground underneath mitt romney's feet has actually started to shift in the last few days. just yesterday we learned one of his top iowa strategists david kochel is said to be jeb bush's presidential campaign manager, if bush decides to make his expected 2016 presidential bid. and we also can tell you my
colleague chuck todd has reported one of the people invited to be on this romney conference call today is already planning to work for jeb bush. and so if mitt romney wants to run, he has to make his intention known now. i wouldn't be surprised if he makes this intention, it comes in the form of creating an exploratory committee or a political action committee just to give donors and advisers a clear understanding of where his intentions are. >> so, mark who else is on that phone call? >> well so right now what we do know is that these are the people who have been around mitt romney, who have worked for him in the past. top advisers people in the key states, like iowa and new hampshire. pretty much mitt romney's big universe of supporters but as chuck was able to report, at least one person who ended up getting the e-mail from this -- e-mail invitation to be on the conference call for mitt romney world is already planning to be on the jeb bush train.
>> peter does this look look the romney campaign you covered in 2012? >> i think the romney campaign the governor himself certainly realizes now is the time they need to come forward and signal in some form to supporters those who still stuck around with him, they are moving forward on this. there is hypoterrible they announce a pact or something to that effect. recognize this is three weeks today since he told donors he was considering it. he met with jeb bush just about a week ago, and as you speak to romney advisers a couple i've spoken to today are those donors and in his inner circle believe that he in his mind thinks he's gathered enough information to make the decision that he needs about a third run. the e-mail he sent out to these individuals referred to this as an update. inside the mind of mitt romney they say he really believes there is no better candidate out there in the field right now for president, and in some way a lot of this due to his mormon faith believe he has an obligation a sense of duty to the country to
add his name to this chorus one more time. their hopes inflated by some good poll numbers and early states places like iowa and new hampshire, and beyond that as you've heard governor romney speaking consistently about income and equality and poverty, a better focus he'll focus on topics the romney campaign governor romney and his family believe are prime issues in this life which is community service. helping the poor. doing things to that effect. many things that came from his leadership role in the mormon church. >> and, mark romney has essentially been in quasi campaign mode. does he have a schedule? is timing on this issue whether he goes in or doesn't important jrchlt timing is important for him to make his intentions very clear. this is similar to what jeb bush had to do a couple months ago. jeb bush floated whether he would flun 2016. a lot of people didn't take it all that seriously. the way jeb bush made it serious
was by saying, look, i am going to explore a presidential bid. as soon as he started doing that things with social media, the entire political world, particularly republican donors started taking it seriously. in some way peter mentioned three weeks ago when mitt romney ended up saying he was now thinking about it but people are looking for a stronger indication from mitt romney to be able to get those people online. now, jose i mentioned to you, defections from mitt romney world to jeb bush world. dom realize this is the natural consequence of somebody going from the republican party's presidential nominee in 2012 to somebody who essentially on even footing with some of the other president's candidate. a person can win on even footing but you won't have the same big group of donors. it's going to be a little smaller. look like for him more 2008 than the fall and summer of 2012. >> mark and peter, thank you so much for being with me. of course much more on mitt romney with the moderator of
"meet the press" chuck todd in a couple of minutes. and following several new developments from the middle east in jordan and japan, an extremely tense situation. the fate of a japanese and jordanian hostage remains unclear nearly 24 hours after a deadline set by the isis terror group. also developing in egypt. an isis offshoot claiming responsibility for four simultaneous attacks that killed at least 32 people on the sinai peninsula and word one of the five taliban detainees exchanged for bohr bergdahl try-- beau berg damedahl tried to rekwect with the taliban. >> reporter: it look it's like the hostages their lives still in the balance, these two nations, gentlemanjapan and jordan a world apart but both united in
this crisis. another crisis has come and gone and no word from the kidnappers of isis. no sign that a deal has been done. the two sets of families have pleaded with their governments and with isis. the two governments say they're working together and around the clock to free the jordanian pilot and the japanese journalist, but at the minute no sign that any deal is being done, and i have to say jose i think hope is raezeally fading for these hostages. jordan initially said it would be okay with a deal to free a suicide bomber a failed suicide bomb the woman that isis wanted from jail and then it backtracked on that. it said that it wanted first of all proof that its pilot, the jordanian, was still alive, and last night a jordanian minister said that that woman isis wants was in fact still in jordan.
there's really no sign they are prepared to go through with this very complicated three-way deal. >> bill the whole issue was proof of life for both the jordanian an the japanese hostage, and that as far as we know simply hasn't happened. >> reporter: that's right. i mean the family of the pilot, who are wr prominent in this knt, theyknt country, they say they have had word he a alive and putting a lot of pressure on the jordanian government. jord sn part of the u.s.-led coalition against isis. its bombing campaign is pretty unpopular here. so the government here is under pressure. the government in japan is under pressure as well. the prime minister three years ago said he wanted japan to play a greater role in the world. well, three years on he's had one hostage in the middle east decapitated and another one who is -- whose life is being threatened. so there's pressure on both governments.
isis not only holds the hostages, it appears to hold if you like, all the cards. >> nbc's bill neely in jordan. thank you. now to the pentagon and jim miklaszewski. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, jose. >> start with reporting involving taliban detainees freed in exchange for soldier bowe bergdahl? an update? >> reporter: right. u.s. officials tell us at least one of those five taliban prisoners released in exchange for army sergeant bowe bergdahl at least attempted to reach out to his old taliban members. now, according to officials those five taliban members are being held essentially in semiconfinement in a villa in doha qatar. so one of those, two months ago, got on the telephone, made several phone calls to a relative in afghanistan who is either a member of the taliban or has close ties to the taliban. u.s. security intelligence monitored those phone calls, and
according to officials, there was nothing in the phone calls themselves that posed any kind of imminent threat to u.s. personnel or forces there in afghanistan, but nevertheless the very fact that this prisoner who was released by the u.s. is now attempting apparently to at least reconnect to the taliban. the u.s. is going to tripe to talk to ga toorqatar to get them to cut off any of those phone calls but that's meaningless, really because relatives and friends can visit those five prisoners there in semiconfinement in doha and quite frankly, that confinement ends in june. and according to officials here at that time those five prisoners would apparently be free and if so willing to return to afghanistan, return to taliban, and return to the fight. now, all of this couldn't have come at a worst time for the white house, and the obama
administration, because there's so much attention now to the swap potential prisoner swap between jordan and isis and new questions raised about whether those five prisoners should have been released to get return of bowe bergdahl in the first place. as one official said look this couldn't be worse timing jose. >> nbc's jim mccla shechsky atkiklaszewskimiklaszewski. thank you. a story that broke yesterday. everyone pulled from the rubble after a deadly gas explosion tore through a children's hospital in mexico city. incredible video of the moment that explosion erupted. take a look. [ explosion ] >> at least three people were killed. more than seven injured in that massive blast. joining inging me now live from mexico
city, good morning, give us an update on exactly what happened and where you are. >> reporter: good morning, jose. as you can see, behind me is what's left from the building that used to be this child hospital. yesterday morning the explosion was around 7:09. inside the hospital at that precise moment was 110 people. 72 of them are injured. 3 of them unfortunately, were killed. 2 of those were babies. 1 was a nurse. 22 of the injured people are considered in critical situation. authorities now are just trying to remove as fast as they can all that you can see so they can rebuild this hospital that is needed for this community. also they are ever waiting to fine the company for as much as
$2.5 million, because of the explosion, jose. >> directly in mexico city thank you for being with me this morning. >> reporter: thank you. just getting started on this friday edition of the "rundown." after the break, "meet the press" moderator chuck todd here with his take on mitt romney's big 11:00 a.m. conference call plus a story that has a lot of people talking. a huge name in the hip-hop world under arrest on suspicion of murder. suge knight. we'll tell what you he's accused of coming up on msnbc.
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call at about 11:00 a.m. eastern time. the topic, the president last night in philly made romney the topic of conversation with this jab -- >> we've got a former presidential candidate on the other side who suddenly is just deeply concerned about poverty. that's great. let's go. come on. let's do something about it. >> romney quick to respond on twitter writing, mr. obama, wonder why my concern about poverty? the record number of poor in your term and your record of failure to remedy. feeling deja vu anyone? let's bring the moderator of "meet the press," chuck todd. >> nice to see you. >> romney is back in and certainly. >> right. >> back in, at least consideration this 11:00 call. how long does he have to make this call one way or the other? >> look a sense of urgency right now. there's a few things that have happened over the last week. he lost one of his chief strategists for iowa for the last two cycles signed up with jeb bush. there are a number of donors who
are picking bush over romney. in fact people that were invited to this conference call who the romney folks thought were part of sort of the romney, say, inner circle. second ring of the inner circle are already with bush and the romney people don't know it yet. so the fact of the matter is the ground under romney is crumbling, if he doesn't make a decision to -- if he really is going to run he can't dawdle. there's a sense of urgency. it he's going to run today he needs to form a pact announce something that he's doing that or if he's not -- if he basically, if this is a -- doesn't announce anything new, sort of look i'm still thinking about it i think the decision's going to be made for him and a bunch of people will end up signing on with jeb bush. >> meanwhile, the obama/romney back and forth sounds a lot like 2012. we have those election results ready to go and there it is. >> ouch. >> i'm not even -- not going to
put up the latino vote. i don't want to say 71% for one candidate versus the other one. is this exactly what the gop fears? >> look, i think there are plenty of people in the republican sort of the leadership of the party who sit there and say, you know what? romney was not a good candidate. could have made a good president but was not a nimble candidate. what has changed? why will we think he'll be more nimble this time? and that the worst thing, i can't tell you how many things i've heard this week when you hear out of well this time he'll run more comfortably. more as the real mitt romney. really? is takes you three tries to do that? that's something i think that you know -- every week he's in the race jose they'll be an announcement of somebody who was with him who is flipping to bush or who was with him, flipping to walker. so look i think this could be a toretureous experience for him over the next six months. the good news for romney his
name i.d. is up and there are rub republicans who have buyers remorse, independence buyers remorse thinking romney had a foreign policy argument to make. maybe this time people will listen to him, but i'll tell you, in the insider game it's really tough to see how romney wins sort of the inside part of this president's primary season. >> talk possible. new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll four in ten americans would encourage their child to play another sport other than football due to the number of concussions. the number is half when it comes to democrats. anything gleaned from these numbers? >> talking about football and the nfl looks like they've been under siege. roger goodell, crisis mode when it comes to ray rice. this week the whole deflate-gate issue, all that business. the threat to the future of the nfl is the health and 15i679y yy y
safety of the game. roger goodell has a big press conference today. announce 15i679y thing ysafety things. it's future of nfl is in the hands of moms and minivans. if you have kids steering their kids away from playing youth football eventually that's going to trickle up and cause problems for the nfl. they need to get their arms around this. announce no tackle football before the age of 12. mandatory, do the safety things they do for the nfl and make it mandatory mandatory, do things to make parents feel comfortable again about this, because that's how you protect the future of the game. again, we sort of -- we're all focused and sort of the -- the scandal of the moment in the nfl. this is the real long-term challenge for roger goodell and the nfl, is getting their arms around this. >> chuck, quick. who's going win? >> i'm with the seahawks.
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on the house? i've heard he's involved in some of that. is that true or not? love to know. >> he is. paul ryan on policy is at the center of every major i think, issue at this point. tax reform immigration. trade. you name it, paul ryan's in the middle of it. >> "meet the press" on sunday. chuck, thanks. won't miss it. >> you bet. and mitt of course always able to start a conversation. exactly what's going on on our facebook page. a lot of feedback around his third potential run. many of the commons says no patricia, no a zebra can't change its stripes. some support. from luis if mitt runs this time he'll win. the conversation is just taking off. you can weigh in on our facebook page or on jdbmsnbc at twitter. looking forward to hearing from you. after the break, a preview of how the day is shaping up on wall street and later on, mother nature's relentless snowfall may be expecting another foot
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trying to understand. let me try to go up through the different fund-raising committees that different candidates are using and the sig contention of them to this election. ut mentioned lindsey graham. the fact he's doing a 527, and basically 527, the section of the tax code that it's named after. talking about basically the key here for somebody like lindsey graham or somebody like scott walker. also he's doing the 527. they can raise unlimited sums of money. spend unlimited sums of money with a 527. the catch though they can't do it to ex-press isly advocate their candidacy. run ads, vote for me scott walker, what you get with president scott walker that kind of thing. the other thing to keep in mind these are the two doing it. scott walker lindsey graham. the catch on lindsay grak close to john mccain. he's all about campaign finance reform. lindsey graham is saying he will abide by contribution limits for his 527. only take $2,600 from an
individual. scott walker not making a claim like that now. scott walker looking to raise more money with this. the more traditional term here and what most of these perspective republican candidates are using, called leadership pacs. basically, this is something you form as a prelude to a president's campaign. you can raise money for this spend it to fly around the country, go to all sorts of events. run polling, hire staff. big thing they like to do as well dahl thatole that money out pap good way to make friends. interesting one, a lot of people doing it democrats, republicans looking at this. interesting thing. jeb bush doing something different than everybody else. this is the language he used when he said he was exploring maybe running for president back in december. if that seems legalistic it's because it is. jeb bush is a superpac. we've never seen this before in american presidential politics. an experiment. raise all the money he wants, spend allment he wants. explicitly advocate his election. the key, he -- if he actually
become as formal candidate he cannot run the super pac. somebody else has to run it for him with all that money. so it's a risk. >> msnbc steve kornacki thank you. great to see you. appreciate you being with me watch "up with steve kornacki" weekend mornings at 8:00 eastern, 5:00 pacific right here on msnbc. for more on the developing news we've been covering all morning, waiting for a possible announcement this morning from romney let me bring in former white house director of hispanic media under president obama. luis and former adviser to senator mccain during his campaign. thank you for being with me gentlemen. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> big news romney will hold this phone call at 11:00 a.m. with supporters to discuss his intentions. what do you think he has as far as a chance if he decides to run again? >> well i think he absolutely has a chance. he's been down this track twice and of course been our nominee in 2012.
so she well-connected not only with the donor base but well-connected with activists, party chairman. gone through the process. think of it for viewers, run the marathon once and now running the second time rather than the first time. you know the lay of the land pap tremendous advantage in that respect. obviously, the down side of somebody running again is you're running the 2012 campaign in part one more time. but the key story here for us is there's so much enthusiasm for romney and other candidates because of the dismal record of this administration. not a talking point, luis. a reality. the president had been leading from behind for a long time and now is not leading at all. >> you have to say it's not a talking point. >> this is why a lot of enthusiasm. >> luis could this be a third time and if so is third time a charm for romney? >> i would love to see mitt romney run again because we know how to beat him. did it twice. the sprob campaigns are about
momentum. it's too hard to maintain over three presidential elections. he just can't do it and i think if he's smart what he'll do today, try to be a kingmaker and get behind jeb. they had has meeting. it's possible. there's a chance he runs. if he runs he'll find that all of those two marathons that alfonzo talked about led to him stepping on a lot of people and making them angry and disappointed in his ability to communicate and connect with voters. look, he said something good. this isn't a talking point. when you say that it has to be. brand your as authentic, you just aren't. that's the biggest problem. >> gentlemen before we get into this more intensely apparently we're told there will be two calls this morning. the first with a small group of aides. say romney decides not to run. >> yes. >> will this be, who will benefit from this and in the republican party? >> well absolutely. governor bush would benefit from this, because i think they're
appealing to a large segment of -- the same part of our party, in great extent. i actually think he is thinking of running, not a kingmaker. luis knows this. so much enthusiasm. governor romney said it. i have been vindicated by the failed policies of the last three, four years. his words, jose. why there's an enthusiasm and a possibility of a second run. >> all right. so luis, let's talk about the political 2016 run without romney in the picture. for democrats, it seems much more clear, you know how that would go if hillary clinton decides to run. but for the republican field how do you think that would do if romney decides today not to run? >> i think it doesn't change a lot. i think jeb bush still has the momentum. already jeb bush deciding he would take this much more seriously created problems for people like marco rubio.
rand paul stands to put up an interesting fight, adds color and brings a different perspective even though he has a small chance of winning will at least keep nim for a pretty long time and chris christie i think represents the type of politics people are tired of. the anger. none of those dynamics really changed. and i think we continue to have to wait and see how this evolves. anyone who tells you they can predict today what the outcome is going to be in the republican side is lying, because it's just -- at this stage of a presidential campaign everything is speculation. that makes it fun. the dynamics don't change a heck of a lot. if mitt decides to stay in it creating problems because it rehashes a very much more ugly dynamic between the top republicans at a moment when they're going to be trying to have a new debate. they're going bag to all of the debates and the fights of his first two runs. >> thank you both for being with us. it's friday. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> all the best. after the break, we'll zoom
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economic problems in a surprise decision today the country's central bank cut its key interest rate triggering a drop in the ruble. the ruble was collapsing. analysts say the move was most likely due to pressure from government officials and russian businesses suffering from this high rate. a snowy day today for much of the east coast, and there's more of that to come. with maine expected to get up to a foot of snow by tomorrow. take a look at these live pictures of portland. the rest of the country isn't exempt another storm heading for the middle of the country over the weekend. bill karins is here with the super bowl weekend forecast. bill, good morning. >> good morning. still have that guest room available? >> i think i'm going to have to have you and half the staff from new york here? >> another week of this we've all had enough. snow coming down pretty good bp so far a little over achiever in areas of northern jersey hudson valley. a lot of school delays extended to two to three hours in this region and still snowing pretty good throughout areas of
connecticut. careful on the roads there. only two or three inches but enough to make it really slick. a picture out of portland, could end up with six or seven inches when it's all said and done. farther to the north, getting everyone's attention mild out there with this snow today in the northeast. watch what happens. the windchills right now are crashing arctic air is fwloe blowing through the great lakes. 7:00 p.m., look at buffalo. down to zero. cold air through i-95. people way up saturday evening, outside in windchills near zero negative 1 in hartford. near 10 in albany. extremely cold there and gusty winds behind this storm. it doesn't get better during the day on saturday. what's next? this next storm comes in starting saturday night, chicago, illinois areas maybe even st. louis. they got a swath of moderate to heavy snow with this storm. it's apparently fast-moving storm, jose. we won't worry about it being a long duration blizzard or
anything like that but there will be an area of six inches of snow possibly right tluf the middle of ohio pennsylvania and maybe into new york city come monday morning. so that means a nightmare commute tomorrow at this time. i should say monday at this time. >> i will be talking to you, monday at this time bill thanks so much. >> i'm checking ob flights, too. >> i know man. >> got them ready for you. >> absolutely. happening right now in massachusetts, as the new england patriots prepare for the super bowl one of their former stars returns to court. day two of the aaron hernandez murder trial. the victim's mother and girlfriend expected to testify today. both sides gave opening statements after a late start. the defense maintains the state ignored evidence and conducted "a sloppy and unprofessional investigation." meanwhile, prosecutors showed security camera footage from hernandez' home they say ties him to the crime. hernandez charged in the 2013 shooting death of semipro bowl football player odin lloyd. he's pleaded not guilty. after the break, super bowl
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game sunday. halle jackson is in glendale. how concerned are officials there? >> reporter: jose federal health officials say it is not that the measles vaccine isn't working, it is just that it is not being used. the cdc describing the latest outbreak as a wakeup call. here in phoenix, they're listening. arizona has seven cases of people with measles. the state is monitoring about 1,000 others that may have come into contact with those folks, making sure they don't come down with measles as well. most of the thousand have probably been vaccinated. those that haven't been are asked to stay home three weeks, stay away from work school keep the kids out of daycare if that's what it takes so others don't become infected. experts say it is the best way to stop the outbreak in its tracks. health officials estimate that 14 states confirmed cases of measles. most cases are linked to disneyland in southern california where the outbreak is believed to have begun.
the cdc believes someone from overseas was patient zero began the transmission and it spread from there. here in arizona, one of the focuses is not just measles, but the super bowl. they're not concerned about it spreading to big crowds coming in from across the country. they point out the number of people actually infected with measles is relatively italiany. you have a better chance of catching the flu or cold than measles if you come here. >> thank you so very much. during the game millions will get to watch what is essentially a $4.5 million apology. the nfl is using one of the biggest television events of the year to air a public service announcement on domestic violence. >> operator, 911, where's the emergency. >> what's going on there? >> i would like to order a pizza for delivery. >> ma'am, you reached 911. >> large with half pepperoni and
half mushroom. >> you called 911. >> do you know how long it will be? >> ma'am, is everything okay there? do you have an emergency or not? >> yes. >> and you are unable to talk because -- >> right, right. >> is someone in the room with you? say yes or no. >> yes. >> is a 30 second ad enough to right the track record on domestic violence. elizabeth, good to see you. >> good to see you. >> what's your take on the ad. effective? >> i think we can agree it is certainly compelling and compelling for two reasons. it is based on a real call made by a woman who was a victim of domestic violence, and the dispatcher sort of tells the story, she had a history of calling in for these kinds of cases, it is a real case of a real woman, and this is what domestic violence looks like. it's also the first time the super bowl will air a psa about
domestic violence. as you mentioned, it is a spot that's worth a lot of money. so this is a big deal for the nfl to do this. >> and let's talk about roger goodell's role in this. he has been taking a lot of heat. is that justified? >> i think a lot of people are justified in thinking that this is maybe not enough. the nfl needs to walk the talk. this 30 second ad is certainly a really big symbol a commitment to the cause, but it is not enough. there's actually a campaign started by ultraviolet, a nem nis organization that organization that says there are 55 cases of domestic violence that they have unearthed that haven't been dealt with by the nfl. there's still policy changes that have to be done still a lot being swept under the rug, and a lot of people are seeing this as like a pr move. and they're saying this is not enough. >> and you know as you said the fact is it is a very effective psa, but is that you
know, one worries well i have done a psa, i pretty much showed the world i care now i can turn the page. you know is that going to be the case? there's a news conference 1:30 p.m. eastern time with goodell. is this something he should be handling? >> it is going to reach a lot of people. the super bowl is the most watched thing on american television. last year it broke every record. there will be a lot of people watching, people who might not have been the target of something of this issue. and the nfl has a lot to lose here. important to remember that 46% of nfl fans are women, and women are the fastest growing demographic of football fans. so last year or in 2012 actually the male audience went down 2% and female audience for football games went up 3%. if the nfl is smart, they're going to see women as a market that they need to keep happy. >> elizabeth, thank you for being with me.
>> appreciate it. >> msnbc has special coverage starting tonight at 7:00 p.m. eastern with chris matthews and the morning joe team takes over at night at 8:00 p.m. live in arizona on msnbc. coming up as we take the turn on "the rundown," waiting for a big news conference out of arizona from two super bowl head coaches. we will have that for you at 10:30, 7:30 pacific time. closer to the 11:00 a.m. eastern time mitt romney phone call. is third time a charm? we will break it down in the next hour on msnbc. "the rundown"."
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donors and supporters. it comes a day after what sounded a lot like a campaign speech in mississippi. also within the hour another potential 2016 name vice president joe biden will be addressing the house democratic retreat in philadelphia. joining me now from the white house, nbc's kristin welker. back from the romney speech and "the washington post" national political correspondent philip rucker. he is providing a 2016 update. >> we expect a decision of some kind. expected to say he is moving forward with the campaign which would mean potentially launching committee, getting an organization together, or he could pull back. hearing conflicting things from people close to him this morning. we'll know the answer in about an hour. >> what do you think his big conflict is right now? it seems as though every day that passes more people that supported romney are supporting
other possible gop candidates. >> that's an important issue. some donors and a few key staff members defected to other campaigns. romney spent the last three weeks calling around to hundreds of supporters to donors. he apparently feels comfortable he would be able to raise enough money to wage a competitive race. in mississippi wednesday, he sounded like a possible candidate, attacking hillary clinton, he showed he was hungry to get back in the game. all signs point to a run, although we don't know what that decision ultimately will be. >> kristin, meanwhile last night the president's speech could have been a page out of the 2012 campaign against romney. >> reporter: it certainly could have been. president obama in philadelphia firing up house democrats, he was touting the budget he is going to roll out on monday that's going to reverse the sequester cuts. it will call for increased taxes on wealthy americans to pay for middle class priorities like education, but took a swipe at his former republican challenger mitt romney, of course known
for the 47% comments mitt romney has been in recent days talking about the fact that if he were to run, he would focus on helping to aid those who are impoverished. here is what president obama had to say. take a listen. >> we've got a former presidential candidate on the other side who suddenly is just deeply concerned about poverty. that's great! let's go! come on let's do something about it. >> reporter: not surprisingly mitt romney fired back on twitter. he said mr. obama, wonder why my concern about poverty? the record number of poor in your term and your record of failure to remedy. of course, that is a reference to the fact that while we have seen the unemployment rate go down there is still this large concern over wage stagnation something that president obama has acknowledged is still a problem, clearly going to be a central issue in the 2016 presidential election jose.
>> and philip if romney decides not to run in the gop field, there's names that come up and down, and marco rubio has kind of been coming up in recent weeks. tell me about the playing field if romney decides not to run? >> so if romney bows out, that means a big advantage for jeb bush former florida governor. he is another titan on the establishment side of the party, he is likely to scoop up a lot of donors. marco rubio could also benefit. rubio hasn't decided whether he is running for re-election to senate or for president, but he was out at an exclusive retreat in california last weekend with the koch brothers and other donors in that network and impressed a lot of people in that crowd. he has a lot of potential as a candidate. >> the question is would bush and rubio run against each other. and apparently rubio said that's not an issue, if he decides to run, doesn't matter who is running. >> he says it is not an issue
and if he decides to run his family is on board, but he hasn't made that decision yet, and we have to see. another name getting a lot of attention is scott walker the governor of wisconsin. he would also compete for some of the same donors and supporters as well. >> philip rucker kristin welker, thank you for being with me. a lot more ahead on developing news, including one of the authors of the real romney. there's of course the other side, the democrats. and the question when will hillary clinton announce one way or another? nbc's perry bacon is reporting some democrats have their doubts about hillary. let me bring in senior political reporter and "the washington post" political correspondent. thank you both for being with me. ann, start with you. what do you think hillary is thinking sitting back watching all the romney talk? >> i mean in the short term if romney pulls out, it is kind of
a wash for her. positioning herself against either jeb bush or mitt romney isn't that different from her or for any generic democratic message. in the long term there are a lot of democrats who would rather run against romney a second time, have beaten him once say they know how to do that rather than run against jeb bush. so in the long term if you're hillary clinton you might prefer that romney stays in and he and jeb bush keep feeding off the same donor and staff base fighting one another, rather than fighting her, and that in the long term there's a better chance that romney is the nominee for the republicans and not jeb. >> and perry, what have you learned about where democrats stand on hillary clinton now? >> i heard two things. overwhelmingly, hillary is leading in polls, very likely to be the nominee, a big favorite. governors, house members all
endorsing her. there's two camps of people that are wary of her. one, folks on the left people like elizabeth warren that say they're not sure hillary will be taking up progressive ideas in a strong way. they would like someone call for breaking up banks like citigroup or call for increase in social security benefits. not sure hillary will do those kind of things. a second group, i talked to david axelrod, and his worry is hillary, it is not clear what is the rationale for her running beyond winning. he was talking about how she needs to come out when she announces, whenever she starts and say here are my two or three things i want to get done. we have a group called ready for hillary we've all been talking about, but what does it mean what are we ready for when people say we are ready for hillary. >> everybody is talking about the warren effect but we're expecting biden to speak within the hour. where does he fit into this
equation? >> biden appears to be positioning himself to potentially be the recovery candidate if hillary clinton falls apart, either doesn't announce for president at all, which is a very slim possibility, still a possibility, or becomes a candidate and then isn't a good one. it seems unlikely to me that biden would mount a serious, real primary challenge against hillary. i mean it would be even a bigger version of what you're seeing with jeb and mitt now, which is really looking at exactly the same base of support and that's a very difficult place for the democrats to be now. as many people as perry said have some reservations some qualms about hillary clinton, really i don't talk to any democrats that want to see hillary versus joe biden. >> and thank you for being with me. good to see you both. >> thank you.
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qaeda prisoner. bring in shane harris correspondent for the daily beast. good morning. >> hi jose. >> wonder why we're not hearing anything, what's going on behind the scenes in jordan and japan. >> the jordanians asked for proof of life video, some indication from isis that the jordanian pilot is still alive and ready to trade the other al qaeda prisoner for him. having not seen proof of life video, a lot of experts noted that you have to assume that perhaps the jordanian pilot could already be killed. it could be that isis is weighing its options, but it is distressing they have not come forward, given that jordan put forth an offer, said they're ready to make that trade. >> isis was public when they brought out the japanese hostage, who the last one was the audio recording we heard saying i have very little time left, and holding a picture of the jordanian pilot. and then silence. nothing. >> absolutely. sort of makes you wonder.
if isis was ready to do this and made such a big deal made their demands so known, why weren't they ready to move. it is an interesting moment isis finds itself in a self proclaimed islamic state, wants to be taken seriously as a state. forced another country to negotiate with it, something they have not achieved up to this point. in a way, talking about people's lives, first and foremost. there's a political calculation now that isis has to make. if it could execute the trade and do that publicly could potentially give the group tremendous of leverage with other countries, if that falls through and seen to be not credible making unrealistic demands with no intention of freeing prisoners, i don't think they'll have the opportunity to negotiate in the future. >> seems like the governments of japan and jordan are dealing with a no win situation. >> they are. i am surprised the jordanians came forward quickly to negotiate this way. of course they're facing tremendous pressure at home domestically to release this
pilot. he comes from a very prominent family in jordan and the war there is extremely unpopular. the japanese have also been caught in the middle of this now. the initial exchange was the pilot for the al qaeda prisoner in jordan now the japanese journalist has been brought into it as well. isis does hold all the cards here, at this point the ball is in their court. whether or not they come forward with proof of life video in the next several hours will give the best indication of how this is probably going to resolve itself. >> shane harris, thanks for being with us. appreciate it. >> thanks jose. a wintry weekend ahead with snow in the forecast for the northeast and storm heading for the midwest by monday. this as the east coast digs out from the blizzard earlier this week. weather channel chris warren joins me from summerville, massachusetts. how is the cleanup going? >> reporter: well it is a big, big project, jose. we are just outside boston there's a lot of snow already on the ground. more snow coming downright now. and the snow is coating the
sidewalks where if it wasn't completely cleared, it is covering some icy spots. can be dangerous to be walking around. we are also seeing some cars still yet to be dug out. you go around and walking and try not to slip based on the cover of the new snow. you're walking along, all of a sudden sidewalk comes to an end. you can go right or in many cases you have to negotiate around, find another way to cross the street which often means coming out into the street. jose, we are looking at a situation now where it is the old insult to injury situation with more snow coming down when the dig out is not over yet, it is going to get windy and extremely cold overnight tonight in boston. >> chris warren thank you so much. want to take you to portland maine with live pictures of how the weather is. it is just ugly out there. look at that. as we were just saying we can
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let's turn back to the developing mitt romney news and what could be the biggest announcement yet as we look ahead to the race for the white house in 2016. mitt romney is expected to disclose intentions for 2016. bring in co-author of "the real romney. pleasure to see you." >> good morning, jose. >> here is what chuck todd tweeted. if romney were a stock and folks were buying two hours ago, then they're now selling.
we will know at 11:00 a.m. what are you expecting at 11:00 a.m. scott? >> very good analogy. i don't know honestly. i have been somewhat skeptical about this romney hoopla i think the bar is fairly high for him this cycle. he has run twice before. the rationale last time was clear and compelling the economy hadn't recovered quickly enough, job growth was slow unemployment was high he looked at obama after four years, said i can do better than this i am the turnaround guy, it made sense, that's why he was the nominee and got reasonably close. this time i am not sure what the rationale is. that leads me to question whether or not he will do it. at the same time, he thinks he has a lot to contribute and it is quite possible he goes for it. >> interesting because the fact is that he has kind of changed his tune recently as far as how
he talks about issues. on poverty, for example, middle class, he is looking to rebrand himself? >> right. just like he looked to rebrand in 2008 and 2012 this is a story we have been talking about a long time with mitt romney. he has a gift for reinvention, it served him well also attracted a lot of negative attention. i think it would again. clearly he has to chart a different course to enter the race this time. you brought up poverty, he has been talking about that and income inequality clearly that's a huge issue in this country, the president has said that's an area they made no or little progress. is that something that in romney's background you can see in romney's background, meaning that does he have the skill set or experience with that kind of thing? i don't know. it is possible. but there's nothing that jumps out at me that says oh, yeah he worked hard on those issues in the past therefore he would be a great one to champion that.
i think that's a big question. >> the whole fact of his faith, seems to be much more up front with it now, in the last couple of weeks, but i am wondering if he is going to decide not to run, why go through three weeks of having everybody talk about it and say three weeks ago hey, i am up for it. >> exactly. i mean i don't see romney as somebody who wants a talk show you know or who is hawking a book. a lot of reasons we see perpetual candidates continue to flirt with running when they really aren't going to. you know there's been much made about the alleged animosity between him and jeb bush and i don't know much about that but maybe he just wants to keep his name in the conversation or maybe he is genuinely interested in it i really don't know jose. hopefully we will have some clarity today one way or another. i guess it is possible we won't have full clarity. >> scott helman author of "the
real romney. thanks for being here. a deadly attack in afghanistan, ebola test in california, a new disney princess. zoom through some top stories. taliban had an attack that left three military contractors dead. officials say gunmen also dead. the shooter an airport employee who successfully infiltrated the afghan military." in california a hospital patient being tested for ebola. the patient transferred from sacramento hospital to an isolation unit at uc davis medical center after exhibiting symptoms consistent with ebola. uc davis is one of the few medical centers in the state equipped to handle the disease. the patient is in good condition. test results pending and expected in 48 hours. as the new england patriots prepare for the super bowl former teammate returns to court. day two in murder trial of aaron hernandez. the victim's mother and girlfriend expected to testify
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president obama is sending in his closer to the vice president and philadelphia vice president biden set to address the democratic retreat. jackie kucinich joins me. good morning. >> good morning. >> benji, the president took a swipe at romney yesterday. does all of the romney talk this morning almost guarantee another one this morning? >> well the easiest way to get mitt romney to run would be to keep telling him he can't, especially for democrats to keep telling him he can't run again. that would clearly add fuel. no one is exactly sure what he is going to say, even within his inner circle. talked to romney veterans that say they're unsure one says nothing to indicate he is thinking of pulling the plug they have no idea for sure. chuck todd has chatter that some could be down on him running. it is very up in the air.
a lot is weighing in on the decision. it isn't the same environment as 2012 where he had a clear path to the nomination on the establishment side. >> jackie msnbc hasn't confirmed, but the daily beast sources say romney is running. what are you hearing, what's his pitch going to be? >> we are hearing that he is going to take the next step. form an exploratory committee and look at a second run. the pitch is he has been vindicated. a lot of things he said came true on foreign policy front. he doesn't feel like jeb or some of the other contenders can seal the deal can win. if it has to be him, has to be him. ann romney is okay with the idea. and as we know he is very close to his wife. that's another big factor. >> benjy, the fact he has been changing as far as focus, has been talking about income and equality, et cetera is this a moment to rebrand himself?
it is not like the country didn't know what he stood for and what his positions were last time around. >> well one gets the impression as you might expect from anyone that came close to being president that he spent a lot of time thinking about what went wrong the last time and it is pretty clear that one of the main issues he regrets focusing on so much is perhaps emphasizing business owners so much over lower income americans, over the middle class. he has been really making poverty a big focus of his speeches. but it is still unclear what that means in terms of a platform. when he spoke in mississippi state university the other day, he talked about poverty, talked about middle class wages stagnating. when he got to policy he named the same prescription tax cuts for big business and deregulation that he championed in 2012. so i think it is still early to tell exactly what the romney rebrand means in practice. >> and jackie you called it mitt 3.0. but if he indeed does decide to go into the race it will be a
different environment just within the gop when you have jeb bush talking about the possibility, he's already made clear steps, including taking some of romney's folks. >> absolutely. this is a very different field than he dealt with last time. it is jeb bush chris christie scott walker. there are some strong contenders this year. it also comes down to data. there was a large poll the last couple months and i think we'll know the answer once we know what happened with that poll. he is not going to do it blind. he is not going to run in because the crowds are big. it is going to be very data driven and going to be -- he's going to go very resolutely into this. >> thank you so much for being with me this friday. appreciate it. >> thank you. a pre-super bowl joint press conference with the coaches of new england and seattle just about to get under way in glendale, arizona. going to take you there once that begins. also up next look at this video. the moment of that massive gas
explosion in mexico city. a story we broke on "the rundown" 24 hours ago. new details on the investigation right now in mexico city. but first, our prime cut, and my colleague chris hayes put the 2016 on a board. >> i have done calculations that show mitt romney is behind 18. >> he's got the hot touch. lake brady with an underinflated ball in his hand. does he have it here. >> mitt romney the founder of bain capital, former governor of massachusetts, and he did something with the salt lake city olympics. is the third time the charm for governor mitt romney?
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i take you live to arizona where pre-super bowl joint press conference with the jeweled coach bill belichick and pete carroll is just getting started. craig melvin is live outside the stadium. good morning. >> reporter: hey jose good morning to you. it will be very interesting to hear what the two coaches have to say at the news conference. as you know as you were just talking about before commercial break, deflate-gate. that will dominate the belichick side of the news conference. everyone continues to talk about it ad nauseum. a lot of folks wonder if the patriots win the super bowl whether the win itself will come with an asterisk next to it. it is going to be interesting to see how belichick handles the questions. you recall last saturday there was an impromptu news
conference. bill belichick not a man of many words. you can bet your bottom dollar he is sick of talking about, but he will be forced to talk about it again. >> tom brady earlier this week said he had a cold. have we been given update on his health? >> reporter: terrific tom says he has a cold no one is making that big of a deal about it. he is still going through the walk throughs does not appear as if it is going to effect his on the field performance. we know he has been treating it with some sort of garlic concoction using a lot of garlic to treat the cold we are told. he has a cold but you know this tom brady, bill belichick are quite possibly the best duo, the best coach, player duo in the history of sports. tom brady won his third super bowl before russell wilson was even out of high school. bill belichick, the winningest
coach in the post season in the history of pro-football. 21 post season wins. it will take a lot more than a runny nose and some sniffles to keep tom brady from performing at 100% sunday. >> yeah we're also going to hear from goodell this afternoon. how will fans look back on the season with him in charge? >> reporter: 1:30 eastern time roger goodell set to do what he does on an annual basis, sort of a state of the nfl. this has been as most folks recognize a very very year for the league. a lot of off the field distractions. adrian peterson ray rice concussion. so many things have dominated the conversation off the field. it will be interesting to see how roger goodell addresses some of that this afternoon, and whether he addresses it at all.
we heard yesterday from one of the vice presidents of the league boasting about some new concussion numbers. concussions in the league are down from where they were a year ago. but make no mistake, roger goodell will be asked about deflate-gate. that's all anyone wants to talk about. spent time with a former pro player from time to time jose you wonder whether we make a big deal out of things, whether it is that big a deal. that was the question. is this as big a deal as we make it out to be he was like absolutely. absolutely. and he thinks and i don't want to get into his name he is a friend but you know it really does make you wonder whether all the wins in the past or a lot of wins in the past what else they may have been doing. a lot of folks thought the league would have tried to put this behind itself before the
big game the investigation might be wrapped up maybe there would be some punishment handed down. had the league done that a lot of folks wonder whether we would still be talking about it the way we are. >> right. craig melvin at the super bowl. thank you, my friend. good to see you. >> reporter: good to see you, jose. >> in case you haven't heard, super bowl xlviiii is sunday at 6:30. tonight, hard ball with chris matthews is live. at 7:00 p.m. followed by morning joe at night. 8:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m. eastern time. new details in a story we broke on "the rundown" 24 hours ago. investigation is under way now in mexico city after a massive gas explosion at a children's hospital killed three, injured more than 70 others. when you look at the aftermath, it is hard to believe some babies were found alive after the blast. incredible images of the powerful blast were caught on
video. let's get the latest. julio, good morning. >> good morning. >> let's talk about the victims. what are officials saying about the number of dead and injured now? >> so farther sticking to original numbers, three people dead, one of them was a woman who worked as a nurse at the hospital. two of them are newborn babies. yesterday they gave a press conference, only confirmed the three deaths. he also said that 73 people were injured, 22 of them were children, were babies some of them and they were all being looked after at seven different hospitals around mexico. these numbers could change. still now there are people looking after new bodies people
that could be alive. >> and what's the latest authorities are saying about how exactly this happened? look at that video that we just showed with the moment of the explosion. there was movement, people going on how did this happen? >> these explosioners often in mexico, there's lack of pipe system to deliver gas to businesses. apparently this truck was delivering gas to the hospital's kitchen, and at the moment two workers of the gas company noticed that the hose had a leak where the gas was escaping from. they alerted firefighters and people were starting to evacuate the hospital at the moment of the explosion. so far authorities are investigating the two workers. they are badly injured, still are being investigated, and they're also investigating the gas company because i understand that it has been involved in more incidents like this one. >> thank you for being with me
this friday. >> thank you, jose. i want to go back to developing news we have been following all morning, minutes from mitt romney holding the first of two phone calls with supporters to discuss presidential intentions. how do his chances look if he decides to run? joining me steve kornacki. good morning. >> how are you, jose. >> good. where does romney stand in recent polling? >> let's take a look we have the big board, a lot of numbers, a lot of suspense. this is an unusual day with romney decision maybe coming this morning. let's look at some of the numbers he is looking at. what we want to show you is why he might want to get in the race. you heard a lot of people said the last few weeks why would he run a third time couldn't win the first two, why run a third time. let's look at the numbers he is seeing that are maybe telling him yeah i should take a shot at this. this is the nbc news "the wall street journal" poll. hillary clinton, mitt romney jeb bush. the key is hillary clinton is doing better than romney bush
both are upside down. what romney sees when he looks at numbers is look everybody is talking about jeb bush being the big kahuna in the republican party, meanwhile, mitt romney i am more popular with all voters than jeb bush is. not like jeb bush is popular or rivals hillary clinton. romney and bush do about the same. match them head to head again all of the talk about mitt romney is done jeb bush is the future, this is what romney has been hearing. you match them with hillary clinton, basically the same thing. not like jeb bush is beating her and mitt romney being trounced by her. look at more interesting numbers. this is just among republicans. positive or negative view of candidates. look at this. mitt romney is 15 points more popular than jeb bush. again, all the talk about romney ace has been. you ask republicans, romney is more popular than bush. look at this. tea party republicans. the hardcore base of the republican party.
this is notable for two reasons. mitt romney 52 positive 18 negative. jeb bush 29 20. barely above water with tea party supporters. it speaks to a huge opening romney may see on the right side. the name bush after the george w. bush years, the name bush is not a name many in the tea party movement want to be associated with. tea party movement sprouted with people on the right saying george w. bush gave conservatism a bad name. because of that we got barack obama. what we as conservatives need to do is purify ourselves. that's what the tea party was about, about opposing obama and bushism. you are seeing jeb bush is caught up in that. romney could see an opening on the right to go after bush. look at this. this is the ultimate thing. polls that matched up mitt romney and jeb bush head to head among republicans, there
have not been many of them until recently not many thought mitt romney was serious about this. take a look. the ones that have been conducted, every one of them mitt romney, 21 jeb bush 10. mitt romney 19 jeb bush 10. mitt romney 19 jeb bush 11. those are not great numbers. but when you are here if you are mitt romney you hear jeb bush is coming the party is getting behind him, you see poll after poll that shows you doubling up jeb bush in some cases, i think you look at the numbers and say why not me? >> interesting. msnbc's steve kornacki. we know the first of two phone calls expected today by mitt romney is under way. we will see how that goes. be sure to watch "up" with steve kornacki at 8:00 eastern here on msnbc. take you live to the annual super bowl press conference under way, two opposing head coaches hoping to take their team to victory.
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conservative radio talk show host, someone close to the romneys, who was pushing him to make third bid has a statement out saying mitt romney is not going to run. nbc news hasn't been able to independently verify this but this is a statement that hugh hewitt appears to have. mitt romney is saying it is time for another generation of republican leaders, other folks to be able to give it a go in 2016. of course that was kind of the word we were getting from mitt romney in the last three weeks after he made it clear he was thinking about another presidential bid. but from this particular source, we can say we are getting word mitt romney will not make a 2016 bid. >> mark murray thank you for being with me this morning from washington, d.c. we will keep you updated on that situation. the countdown to super bowl xlix is on i am such a huge american football fan, i have been told by my staff to take my cues from animals about sunday's big game. so that's the five things.
when animals predict. number one, winston. the so-called psychic golden retriever, correctly picked the winner of the bachelorette this year. winston is a distant cousin of oprah's golden retrievers. fun fact from an executive producer. winston picked the seahawks. number two. the penguins in texas, don't think so. no surprise here sticking with their distant cousins, the seahawks. number three. no longer hump day, bi tribute to a fallen super bowl predictor, princess the camel from the zoo in new jersey passed away over a year ago after correctly predicting eight correct super bowls. the final prediction the ravens in 2013. number four. different football prediction. we got to know this german octopus well. regina or he making the first predict in last year's world
cup. germany winning over portugal. hoping to see regina in russia in 2018 when telemundo has the world cup. and gabby the sea turtle predicting a win for the patriots sunday. in four years of predictions, only right one time. victor turtles belong in aquariums. do we have a picture of victor? look at that, is that your turtle? that's beautiful. say hello. what's the name of the turtle? >> gamera, victor. anyway listen whoever wins i told chuck todd i thought new england was going to win. we called the sea aquarium to see if flipper the dolphin is making a prediction didn't know
who we were apparently flipper is taking time off like the miami dolphins are. super bowl xlix this sunday 6:30 eastern on nbc. tonight on msnbc, "hardball" with chris matthews followed by a special "morning joe at night. everybody from phoenix tonight. 8:00 p.m. through 10:00 p.m. eastern. that music is killing me. that wraps up "the rundown" on msnbc. thank you for the privilege of your time. have a great weekend. tamron hall is up next. for most people, earning cash back ends here, at the purchase. but there's a new card in town. introducing the citi® double cash card. it lets you earn cash back when you buy and again as you pay. that's cash back twice. it's cash back with a side of cash back. the citi double cash card. the only card that lets you earn cash back twice on every purchase with 1% when you buy and 1% as you pay . with two ways to earn, it makes a lot of other cards seem one-sided.
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calls with supporters and donors. the news is three weeks after he first told a meeting of donors that he might be interested in running in 2016. let's bring in moderator of "meet the press," chuck todd peter alexander who covered the romney campaign. here in studio steve kornacki host of" up "with steve core nami. talk about a whirl wind the last couple hours. the calls, it was spreading like wildfire. you tweeted earlier as romney supporters talked to each other. feels like how wall street trades on rumors. they were thinking yes, now they think no. and it is no. let's talk about it. >> look it does sound to me that somebody had the larger conversation for mitt romney. let's play out what a mitt romney campaign would have looked like for the next six months. if he had decided to get in every day