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for the ones you love (dog barks) this valentine's day. (dog barks) verizon. more air strikes against isis. all right. good morning. thanks for getting up with us. another saturday morning. a big morning today of uh news and politics. a lot ahead in the next two hours including will democrats back a challenger to hillary? we'll get a clue on that this morning. also, some danger for chris christie. signs that new revelations are hitting him where it hurts with his party's big dollar donors. does 88-year-old harper lee really want her recently discovered manuscript published? a friend of the reclusive author will be here to join us and tell us what she thinks of that and
more still to come on the show today. we begin with this. jordanian fighter jets taking off in the last few hour s to launch a second straight day of air strikes against isis targets in syria. they come with isis claiming that yesterday's strikes killed a young american woman who was being held hostage by the group. the hostage has now been identified as 26-year-old aid workerer kayla mueller from prescott, arizona. u.s. officials are looking into the report. they say they have no confirmation that mueller was killed in the attack. jordanian officials saying they are skeptical of the claim. her parents released a statement saying they hold out hope that their daughter is still alive. jordan taking the lead in co costrikes after isis released video showing a hostage burned alive in the cage. tafs released this week. kier simmons was at the base and joins us now from ayman.
thanks for joining us. a lot of headlines here. talking about intensifying air strikes. the air strikes have been going on for a long time now. for months now. this bombardment campaign. has it produced meaningful results to this point? >> good morning. from a windy air force base, we are still here. they are having real results. these air strikes. you can see the f-16 isn't one of the planes involved in the campaign. you can see the mk-82 munitions attached to the wing. many f-16s like this took off from this base today. we watched them go two and a half hours later. we watched them come back. as far as we could tell in almost every case they had delivered the deadly payload against isis. that has to have an effect. we are hearing reports.
despite the fact that it is extremely difficult to get clear facts from the areas isisle controlled. we are hearing reports that many isis fighters have been killed. the jordanians are targeting isis weapons depots, stornlage facilities. they will continue to hold that territory. the air campaign like this can only be so the if he can tif in the end. there has to be a move on the ground. we know the iraqis are thinking about moving on mo sul, the city in iraq isis stormed into when they stormed across iraq last year. they are planning preparing for that possibility. that will need to happen. but the air rides are an enormous part of a depleting isis's strength. >> thanks for taking the time keir. here to talk more we have mark
ginsburg, a former u.s. ambassador to mo rack coand retired four-star general barry mccaffery from seattle. general, picking up on what you heard a minute ago the air strikes -- now months of air strikes have been having a real effect on isis. when you look at the campaign to cam degrade isis where do you think it stands now? >> i think to some extent we are making progress. the stupidest thing isis did was to mass around this city of kabani. it presented terrific targets. the u.s. air force and naval power made a huge impact on them. the jordanians have a good intelligence service. at the end of the day we should not forget this is primarily a u.s. air campaign. we have the assets reconnaissance, command and
control. refuelling to make it work. the jordanians are mad. they will definitely try to thump them a good lick in the coming month or so. >> this is a wound to their national character to have this happen. i have heard interpretations out there that the idea that isis would burn alive someone who's a muslim could have the effect of turning a lot of the muslim world against isis. at the same time i am assuming at some level there is logic to isis doing this. they think it helps them. how do you interpret that? >> as we saw steve after the imlitigation of the pilot, what happened is isis put on broad display the fact that they had committed this. there were people cheering. this is part of the problem. the longer isis controls territory, the more they are able to brainwash the sunnis who they have under their control.
it's important for us to understand that the air campaign alone as barry mccaffe ry said will do damage but won't ultimately destroy the will of the people who are eventually have to be destroyed. taking the city of mosul is the key. that's months away. >> in the middle east when isis does this there is loud condemnation from around the world. this helps them in terms of recruitment, standing in the muslim world. >> i hate to say it. but the romantic aspects of people attracted to isis. when uh i go on social media and i see what they are able to do by turning this on its head we think it is revolting. as long as they are able -- look what's happening in libya, in yemen. look what's happening around the region. they are still able to attract recruits. it is really a question in the end. are we able to show the people who are in the muslim world the
terrible atrocities they are committing. the problem is people like us think this is horrible. but the arab world people aren't really sewing what's happening. they may have sewn the pilot murdered. they may hear about the beheadings but they are not revolted enough by what isis is doing to the people they captured. >> i'm curious about what the game plan here is for lack of a better term for isis. when they do something like burning a pilot alive like this is the goal to cause revulsion in jordan or other countries like jordan so there is a movement to stay out, not participate in the campaign against isis. is that what what isis is looking for or is isis trying to draw countries like jordan into iter more because they think it elevates them in some way? >> it's easy to over talk this issue. this is a shia sunni, kurdish
struggle, internal religious overtones, cruelty. ambassador ginsburg knows about the region. at the end of the day the sunnis are more afraid of the shiite militia backed government and the shiite factions thn they are of isis. so we've got problems here. i actually think we are doing okay. 30,000 fighters. pounding them from the air. there are other operations going on. our concerns ought to be in western europe and the united states is the homeland security aspects. we are going back to france the uk, several dozen u.s. they will be a threat. this is a job for customs and border patrol. the fbi and marshall service and the national security agency so we can protect the american people. >> do you think there will be a role for a bigger american
ground force presence? >> no. i think domestic politics would rule it out and be a bad idea. i listened to somebody talking about 100,000 ground troops. they are trying to root out isis. this is nonsense. retaking mosul which is a huge deal to the iraqis. they can't get back the second largest city pin the country, they're in trouble. i'm not convinced the iraqi army can glue that country back together again. 25% of them took off like wild hares, abandoning tanks and helicopters. i have been arguing to send direct aid to jordan a front line state to the kurds. we need to arm the people that need to defend themselves. >> ambassador uh i wanti want to ask you about this young woman. we are not sure of her fate. in general the u.s. government
is saying in response to the beheadings and the oy sis atrocities it will revisit and are re-examine the policy toward how it deals with hostage situations like this. the policy is they never pay a ransom. we do know isis has produced proof that they have her, made a demand for money. short of changing the policy is there something different the u.s. can be doing to deal with hostage situations like this this? >> as you know steve, the yoits tried to launch an ineffective rescue mission on the other two american hostages who were held and ultimately beheaded. the fact of the matter is isis will continue to try as a they have done in north africa and tried to do. they were actually trying to capture americans. they want to capture americans. they want to be able to make
this even more of a fight with the united states. they want the united states to over react. the national security adviser rice gave a speech at brookings. it was a disturbing deer in the headlight s speech. it didn't lay out sufficiently what the united states policy should be with respect to hostages, with respect to isis. sufficiently to get the type of assurance to the american people that we have a strategiment that's what we need now. barry's right. we are not putting boots on the ground. we have to contain the foigt. we need an administration policy that's going to explain to the american people exactly how our role will evolve. >> okay. >> if i could add -- >> quickly, general. go ahead. >> a quick thought. that's the problem with trading five major terrorists for sergeant bergdahl. it was a terrible precedent to set. regardless of the fact he also had left his post in combat and
abandoned his unit the thought that we would hand over high value insurgents to these people set a terrible precedent. ambassador ginsburg is right. the danger is in lebanon, elsewhere in the arab world people will try to snatch americans. >> ambassador general thank you. we want to bring you up to speed on six people now charged in the u.s. on allegations they helped to support isis. federal indictments were unveiled last night. they are charged with conspiracy and providing support to terrorists over seas. they are funneling money, guns to isis fighterers in the middle east. five of them are in custody in the u.s. the sixth is still at large over seas seas. still ahead on this packed news morning, we are going to dive into the bizarre mystery behind a sequel to an iconic american novel. first, what the feds are looking at now in the investigation of chris christie.
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i have every faith and trust and confidence in david's integrity. as do people on both sides of the aisle in this state over the course of the last 40 yores he's been involved off and on in public life. >> that's new jersey governor chris christie on march 28 of last year talking about one of his very close allies david sampson. just announcing his resignation from the port authority. that was a position chris christie appointed him toment sampson resigned under a cloud of scandal at the port authority. amid investigations into the george washington bridge lane closure ises and other allegations about sampson mixing public services with private business interests.
tees are allegations sampson denied but the new development, federal prosecutors have subpoenaed the port authority for records related to sampson's travel and his relationship with united airlines the largest carrier at newark with airport. they are overseen by the port authority. at issue here is what looks like an incredible perk. a direct flight route from newark to columbia south carolina. it's about 50 miles from sampson's vacation home a route created just after sampson became the port authority chairman and united ended just after he stepped down. sampson, according to this referred to it as the chairman's flight. united airlines has no further comment and says they are cooperating. there was a report that federal prosecutors interviewed a former county prosecutor. he appeared on the show last year to accuse the christie
administration of getting too close to an ally and pushing him out as a prosecutor. the attorney's office gave a forceful statement released on the rachel maddow calling it a tremendous lope forward. it doesn't mean we are investigating anybody. on top of this there is the matter of bridge gate itself with wnbc reporting at least six federal indictments could come any day now. how serious is the new stuff learned this week? how is it affecting chris christie? the headline in today's wall with street journal. probe spooks some chris christie backers. we have with us wnbc's vet ran reporter brian thompson. he's been on the story since day one. we have josh barrow host of shift show three sense and msnbc contributor sam stein, politics editor and white house
correspondent for the huffington post. brian thompson. we can talk about the looming bridgegate indictments. >> the chairman's flight. >> it's incredible. maybe there is an ex pla nation. >> i though you research a lot but not this. do you know what the slogan for the chamber of commerce in akin south carolina is? >> welcome, david sampson? >> if you're lucky enough to live in akin you are lucky enough. what more can you ask for? >> besides a direct flight. let me go back to what the governor said. what you didn't show was with when uh i asked him directly about sampson's reputation at the news conference he said he's not a hands-on guy. he's a big picture guy. our information even before the news conference was that david sampson was a hands-on guy.
that's why everybody was curious about his being mentioned in the e-mails over bridgegate as somebody who would do retaliation. there is to evidence he did ever retaliate against anybody. i have to make that clear. wildstein and others could talk about that . >> it seems this is telling us it all started with closers on the bridge. here we are february 2015. federal prosecutors looking closely at sampson turning up other stuff. it suggests there was a broadening of the scope of this thing. >> absolutely. they have uncovered stuff. the question is if you're looking at indictments that were going to come down as early as january or into february does this put a delay in the process? the subpoenas are only a month old, according to the article in the record.
you ask about so and so. the investigation is continuing. do they put this in the investigation is continuing category or do they try to wrap it all this one big package? going into this they wanted to do everything in one package. hoboken, the charges involving mayor zimmer. bridgegate. even possibly the ethics charges against sampson that predate the airlines. they wanted to do one big indictment package whether there was going to be an indictment or not. do we have to wait for the united airlines situation or is that going to be the investigation continues answer. >> all of this comes to as chris christie is moving aggressively to launch the presidential campaign. he was in iowa see is hes an opening here. mitt romney is out of it. he wants to oppose jeb bush.
jessica, you have a report. this is a headline on the hill today. there is a wall street journal story that says republican donors are looking at the things brian is talking about saying look, we have other options out there. we are going to stay away from chris christie. >> if chris christie wanted to steal the spotlight he's almost fallen on his face. you have the investigations. with his vaccine comments you have the report in the new york times where he took lavish flights with his relationship with king of jordan and everything. it all bundled into one he's had a bad week. he had a good performance in iowa. iowa will never be his good state. new hampshire is where he was supposed to be. he's polling fourth fifth. the people who benefitted the most uh now, we thought it would be jeb and christie.
i think it's jeb and scott walker now. they have so many other options. he has to find a way to return to that. i was struck by what made chris christie appeal is he was a straight-talking politician. he would get up in your face. we saw a cold calculated politician with the vaccine answer. it was so politically calculated he didn't want to offend. >> that wasn't the guy who yelled "get the hell off the beach". >> that's the guy that got him in trouble with bridgegate. who really is chris christie? i think that's what we have to find out. as more stuff leaks out about the investigations too. >> he had dabbled a little bit in the anti-vaccine movement area during his 2009 campaign. that wasn't necessarily what vised me so much as him not
taking questions in london. it was the day after the vaccine thing blew up. casey hunt other reporters asked him about basic foreign policy question s, stuff that if you are abroad you should be able to answer. certainly if you have the reputation for being blunt you should answer the questions. he clammed up and said, no question with s questions. if your persona is a fearless, outgoing guy. >> ask the governor anything. >> to do that was really shocking. especially because you're over sea s. >> a quick final thought. >> one person said to me it was the worst week in the history of any politician last week for chris christie. that may be going a little far. >> i think nixon had a worse one at one point. it may have been the worst week in chris christie's career at least during the presidential hopes. my thanks to brian thompson. the next block, the grassroots gathering to find a liberal challenger. bernie sanders would be here to
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try new head & shoulders instant relief. for cooling relief in a snap. all right. the panel is back. a lot going on this morning. we'll look at other headlines making new this is morning, this weekend with. people talking about it now. here's one. we talk about hillary clinton on the democratic side. how about joe biden? he's making news here. joe biden said he'll skip benjamin netanyahu's speech to congress saying he'll be out of the country, what a coincidence, when netanyahu addresses congress. also biden taking the lead when it comes to ukraine in europe attending angela merkel's speech today in munich about diplomatic efforts. on top of this the des moines register reporting biden will be
in iowa next week at drake university doing a round table on college affordability. joe biden wants you thinking he's interested this running. >> it's adorable how joe biden thinks he's running for president. >> so mean. >> where is hillary now? 70% is this. >> 58 points ahead the last time i checked. >> there is no joe biden constituency in the primary. anybody who would have been -- and joe biden has run for president twice before and lost. anybody who would have been in that camp is in the hillary camp. we basely assumed they would never runner for higher office. there is no constituency here. >> cheney never seemed interested in running. i think biden thought there would be a chance. >> joe biden should be v.p. for
life. >> put him on the ticket with hillary in 16. >> vp for life. >> the new york daily news telling us sarah palin will be returning to "saturday night live" for the 40th anniversary special coming up on february 15. you remember in 2008. you probably remember more tina fey. but it's in this building. sarah palin will be here in a few weeks. >> things come full circle. it's a nice capstone from politics. is she'll finalize it. not much more to say to it. >> we'll move on to the next one. how about this? michelle and malia obama visiting new york college. they were spotted yesterday at nyu in columbia. also the chicago sun times reporting that michelle obama can pick where her post presidential library is. he favors new york city. columbia university. obama went to columbia undergrad undergrad. maybe they would want to have
the library herement they have columbia university of chicago. give it to the public school. not the ivy leagues. they have everything else. i'm sorry. >> no problem. >> i agree. columbia, such an ivory tower. >> where did you go? >> columbia journalism school. >> university of hawaii, i don't know. >> it's remarkable how there's been a lot of political consternation in chicago about plans to put it at the university of chicago. they want to use public parkland. people are upset about taking the public park for this purpose. it seems chicago ought to have the inside track. reminds me of the olympic bids. the city is supposed to want with it and people are like maybe we don't. >> more trouble. >> trying to take it over. trying to shepherd it through. it would be an embarrassment for chicago if it doesn't end up
there. >> >> he's so more closely associated with chicago than new york. >> the clintons were never associated with new york. >> the library is in little rock. >> sam stein, i got this because you put it on twitter. this is the craziest story i have seen this week. this is from bleacher report. the high school basketball game made history. this is a final score. that's 2-0. what is that bob county against brookwood is this the moral of the story is get a shot clock. the teams went into prevent offense. >> there is no shot clock so you can just hold the ball. coaches were jerks. someone scored within 15 seconds and then they decided to play four corners and never shoot so they could hold the ball until the end of the half. it was 2-0. people in the stands were like play the game. it just ended up 2-0. >> quart after quarter. >> the neither coach wanted to blink. nope.
i'm not going to get out of my game plan. you ended up with a 2-0 game. >> i want the box score. two shots, no fouls. >> if i were playing basketball that would be the score. >> thanks to the panel. we'll see you later in the show. they are all here for the up against the clock championship still ahead on the show your kids could be reading the sequel to this american classic in their english classes. we'll talk to a close friend of harper lee the author of "to kill a mockingbird" about her new book and whether she wants it published. then live to pennsylvania. if there will be a challenge to hillary clinton it will start there today. that's next. how much money do you have in your pocket right now? i have $40 $21. could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement? i don't think so. well if you start putting that towards your retirement every week and let it grow over time, for twenty to thirty years that retirement challenge might not seem so big after all.
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party activists in harrisburg pennsylvania. it is the pennsylvania progressive summit going on now. vermont senator bernie sanders will be addressing the crowd this morning. msnbc's alex seitzwald joins us. sober any sanders talking this morningment he will be on the show next hour as well. the appetite of the people the activists there. how many of them are looking for somebody besides hillary clinton to be the candidate next year? >> people are definitely looking for an alternative to hillary clinton who was invited to speak here. she's not speaking here. bernie sanders is speaking instead. they want bernie sanders, elizabeth warren somebody from that wing of the party. they cliek hillary clinton but say she's not progressive. i have heard about fracking. a big issue. i heard about labor issues. they want somebody else to be a true progressive voice this the party. they realize it will be a tough
road against hillary clinton. >> we'll ask but his stock answer is i'm thinking about it. by the way, if he does it he has to register as a democrat. something that's not the case now. when he comes to tend of this do you think he'll go ahead and run? >> i think he's looking at it seriously. he doesn't want to run and be a spoiler. if it looks like there is serious support he could run a spears campaign he goes for it. >> all right. the hillary clinton turning down the invitation should be a theme for a few months. hillary clinton, come on the show any time. you're invited. bernie sanders will be our guest live from the summit. that's in the next hour of "up." still ahead, two of america's top political reporters. plus the question of who may emerge to challenge jeb bush. we have a big celebrity making a special surprise appearance on today's show. here's a hint. it's alex trebek. stay with us. at ally bank no branches equals great
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my guess is thatter for many people they look at the political process and say, yeah my family is hurting. i'm working longer hours for lower wages. my job went to china. my kid can't afford to go to college. i can't afford health insurance. what are those people in washington doing to protect my interests? not much. >> that was senator bernie sanders laying out his populist agenda on the senate floor last month. sand issers is speaking at a convention of democratic activist this is pennsylvania. maybe one of the first steps in a presidential campaign against hillary clinton. he'll join us live next hour. how much traction could bernie sander get in a race with the former secretary of state. for that we turn now to jonathan martin from the new york times and perry bacon, jr. perry you have been following
the democrats closely. let's saber if i sanders gets in the race and becomes a democrat. he still has to do that. he runs against hillary clinton. the polls say she's 50 60 points ahead. where can he go with the campaign campaign? what happens then ? >> i don't know if he can go far. you had a remarkable thing happen where the white house communications director is leaving that job to work for the clinton campaign. clinton is almost like an incumbent running for re-election almost. she's so strong in the party right now. >> she is basically the closest thing we have ever had to an incumbent who is not an incumbent in american politics. it doesn't leave much space. this is the democratic partiment this is not going to be a 100% election. there will be folks looking for an alternative. it's always been a robust left wing of the party, especially on economic issues. places like iowa with and new
hampshire have got about 20% of the electorate in the democratic party that are real progressives. how many debates does she give him? also how much of this is about ber think talking about his progressive agenda and how much is going against her. >> i i'm reminded of ron paul and the republican side. ron paul had the same speech he was giving for 30 years. is that what bernie sanders does or does he tailor it to she failed on this and that. we want to get to other stuff. the gop nomination. senator marco rubio weighing in on the hottest political story of the week. that's what he had to say about vaccines. >> there is absolutely no medical science or data that links the vaccinations to the on set of autism or anything of
that nature. all children in america should be vaccinated. >> an interesting twist there. ru rubeo separating himself are from rand paul. sounding like jeb bush who said parents have a responsibility to make sure their children are protected. over and out. the question is in a crowded presidential primary can rubeo beat out jeb bush who is staking his claim with the establishment or the question is there even room for a marco rubio candidacy with jeb bush the fellow floridian, a lot of the same donors, maybe trying to play the same role. more of the moderate voice of rockiesen rhee son. is there room for jeb bush? >> i think jeb bush in the race is a problem for marco rubio. they have the same views on immigration, same donors. that said there is room in the race. there is the ted cruz and mike huckabee, the faction of the right. there is jeb bush who is the
moderate support. there is room in the middle. you talk to people in the party. there is a desire for people in the establishment who don't want a second third bush term. not excited about jeb bushment there is room for one or two of them to run a real campaign and maybe win. not three of them. one of those people will struggle. i'm not sure where marco rubio goes now. there is room in the category for the middle of the two polls of the party. >> if you look at the polling it's soft now. it's split between a lot of different candidates. rubio doesn't have to figure out if he'll run for re-election for the senate or president until into calendar year 201. he has months and months to look at this. he won't say it out loud. i think his approach is yes, jeb bush can raise money. is there an opening for jeb bush
among voters in the primary? if not, we'll know it here at some point during the course of 2015. if not he'll have an opportunity. >> to me that's one of the biggest stories now of the jeb bush roll out. they will do fine. >> financially, sure. >> when i look at the polls he's struggling. he's had 9% in iowa. they say it's just name recognition. if your name is bush and you have only 9% that says what your name means to republicans. it's not good. >> the first jeb bush trip to iowa will be interesting. the first town hall there, in new hampshire, north carolina he'll have the money guys. where are the voters? is there an appetite in the obama era? a more conservative party for another bush. it's an open question. >> very interesting. my thanks to john are than martin. perry bacon, jr., appreciate you taking a few minutes. still ahead, the prayer breakfast comments. we'll discuss president obama's faith-based controversy with his former faith-based adviserer.
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the new this is week that harper collins will be publishing a second novel by "to kill a mockingbird" author harper lee is being groateeted with enthusiasm. the book is already number one on amazon's best seller list. did harper lee really give consent after more than half a century of spurning opportunities to publish a second book? the harper lee who has been for decades afraid her second effort would never match expectations doesn't seem to mesh with the one who appeared to say she was happy as h ell about the loom publication. what was a recently discovered manuscript of the follow up to "to kill a mockingbird"le called "set a watchman." lee is described as having
trouble seeing and hearing. one friend telling vanity fair in 2013 she's profoundly deaf 95% blind and has a very poor memory. joining me now to talk about it is a publishing reporter for the new york times. wayne flint is a retired history professor and a life long friend of harper lee from her hometown of monroeville, alabama. he joins us from montgomery. let me start with you. first of all, have you spoken with harper lee this week? do you believe this is something she wants? she want it is book out there? >> ironically i was down in monroeville with my wife monday before the story broke on tuesday. so i really do think she's in control of her cognitive ability. i think she's quite capable of telling people she wants this published. so i have no reason to think what she 's been quote ed as saying is true.
>> you were with her on monday right? >> that's correct. >> did she mention it? >> we go once a month. we had a conversation where for instance she was talking about her grandfather and said he was in the 15th alabama regiment in gettysburg. in gettysburg i said was he wounded? she said no. colonel oats who was later governor of alabama and author of "history of the 15th regiment" i said killeded or wounded because they ran fast. >> so she's -- sounds like she's still with it. i'm curious if you saw her on monday did she mention that hey, on tuesday the whole world will be talking about this new book? did she mention it? >> she didn't. that's partly because with i preempted the conversation by walking into the room. she hugged me hugged my wife.
i immediately put in front of her the fact that usa today had her book at 49th 55 years after it was publisheded. so i said look nell, you're 49th on the best seller list 55 years after your book was published. she looked at it. she said, i can't believe that. i said i will take it down to your magnifier in the room and you can see. from that point on we were talking about "to kill a mockingbird." we were talking about her father. then they brought in lunch and we had lunch with her. we were there an hour and a half. she was reminiscing about her father and about "to kill a mockingbird." i blame myself. i didn't give her a chance to talk about much of anything except "to kill a mockingbird" and her dad. >> so i'm curious. you have reported this week on this this. what do we know about this? for 50 years there were few
authors who can publish a book at the snap of a finger. she would be one of them. if she said to a publisher, i have something. there would be a race to publish it. what do we know about how it came about? >>according to the statement put out by her publisher which came through her. she submitted it to her publisherer at the time. there is evidence she did submit it for publication. she did want to publish it. last fall apparently her lawyer tanya carter who is a family friend and goes back discovered itment i believe it was her sister's papers. she said it was in a secure location with other papers attached to the original type script of "to kill a mockingbird."
a few reservations about having it published. had people read it and confirm it was worth publishing. that's what we with hear from the lawyer and publisher. >> this is going to be huge. >> this is massive. they are planning a 2 million first printing which is huge. it's been probably the literary discovery of the century. people have been yearning for another book from her for half a century. the questions that remain are basically how. she's excited. but she's such a private person doesn't give interviews and is increasingly isolated. >> it's one of the great
literary events. we'll get to see the way in which this was transformed from a book that was rejected into "to kill a mockingbird" a year later. then we can compare the voices to the voice of the two authors and we'll also put to rest forever the truman capote wrote "to kill a mockingbird" because he was in italy during this period with his partner jack dunphy. >> there is something about great books rejected by publishers. a confederacy of dunces is my favorite. 25 publishers said no and now it's a classic. my thanks to wayne flint, life long friend of harper lee. has n't been published. another full hour of news and politics still to come. stay with us. oh yea, that's coming down let's get some rocks, man. health can change in a minute. so cvs health is changing
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all right. thanks for staying with us this saturday morning. another full hour of news politics, and trivia as well this morning. a couple special guest appearances you will want to stick around for. the up against the clock tournament of champions will be crowned at the end of the hour. also a special surprise appearance by alex trebek. he'll be here too. if there is a liberal challenger to hillary clinton it is likely from harrisburg pennsylvania. senator bernie sanders joins us. we'll look at president obama's crusades to isis. we begin with hour with the foreign policy crises facing the obama administration including the new round of air strikes against isis. jordanian fighter jets this morning on for a second straight day of attacks on isis targets in syria. military officials confirming u.s. and coalition military forces conducted 15 air strikes
in iraq. yesterday isis claiming an american woman held hostage by the group was killed in an air strike. she 's now been identified as the last known american captive of isis. 26-year-old humanitarian aid worker kayla mueller from prescott, arizona. video released by the pentagon shows the raids took place 140 miles awayment there were air strikes after there was a jordanian pilot taken hostage being burned alive in the a cage. let's get the latest now from the white house. kristen welker is standing by. kayla's parents released a statement saying they hold out hope she's alive. have administration officials given an indication about anything they have laernd learned about the question she could be still alive? >> they are being lip tight lipped. they are not able to confirm that kayla mueller was killed
yesterday. in a statement, bernadette meehan said we are obviously deeply concerned by the reports. we have not seen any evidence that corroborates isis's claims. officials are telling me there were streams of intelligence which showed kayla mueller was still alive just a few weeks ago. right thousand the intelligence community will be going back to the same streams of intelligence trying to determine what happened to her. i'm told additional resources are being directed to the effort. this is a top priority here of the obama administration. this comes as the white house is readying a request, steve, that it will send to congress in the coming days asking for a new authorization to use military forces against isis. there are key sticking points. the final language being hammered out. things like length of time for u.s. engagement scope and whether the language should prohibit the use of ground forces. of course we have all heard president obama say multiple
times he's adamant he's not going to send u.s. ground troops into a combat role. some democrats want the language in writing but many republicans disagree. top administration officials argued such language could tie the president's hands if they are needed in a different capacity. the president expected to send the request as early as next week. final authorization could take months. steve? >> live at the white house. appreciate that. that's not the only foreign policy crisis that the white house is dealing with this weekend. fighting in eastern ukraine continues to es a ka late. some call it the worst war in europe since the balkans. they are working on a last ditch diplomatic push. they are weighing sending arms to the ukrainian government to fend off separatists believed to be backed by vladimir putin's russian government. >> we are not seeking a conflict with russia. no one is. we cannot close our eyes to
tanks crossing the border from russia coming in to ukraine. >> amid all the foreign policy challenges the u.s. is facing at the moment isis in iraq and syria fighting in the ukraine, nuclear talks with with iran. amid all the threats, the washington post argues it is timele for the united states to think and act like a super power again. he says the u.s. quote, shouldn't rush to make concessions to weaker nations. it shouldn't be shy about helping friends or making adversaries pay for reckless behavior as in dealing with russia's aggression in ukraine. fortune blesses strong nations but only when they act with resolve. squandering america's advantage to gain short term diplomatic success would be a big mistake. joining me to discuss this is steve clemons, the washington editor at large for the atlantic and msnbc's lawrence o'donnell, host of "the last word" in a rare saturday morning appearance. >> well, this involves getting up at an ungodlier hour.
>> tell me about it. every weekend morning. let me start with you, lawrence. on the column we quoted from. got a lot of attention. people looking at that saying what he's arguing there is the united states ten years after iraq has been haunted by the experience of iraq by the experience of intervention that it's almost too timid this the world now and we need to shake ourselves. >> what i make of it is every advisory issued from op-ed columns in the 21st century. they have a batting average worst than the worst hitter in basketball. there could be some wisdom in that. it could be completely wrong. in every one of these ventures of the 21st century in uncharted territory. we don't have a previous experience in that region with
russia or with the soviet union, its predecessor that use it is guideline to say, oh here is why this will work. so whatever steps you're taking have to be taken with the humility that they can backfire on you. you know we took steps like this in the past that helped create osama bin laden. i approach these things with great humility. i can't write the column. i can't tell you what we should do. in the situation in ukraine. i think it has incredible complexities. it's why i invite steve clemons on to talk about this. i let him make any recommendation he wants without argument from me. i do not know what to do. i wish at this point in the 21st century we could run columns in newspapers that say, i have thought about these things all my life. i don't know what to do here. >> you know that would be so
different maybe you should write it and see what happens. okay. the man with the answers. >> i will take notes now when steves gives the answer. >> let me put it this way. the argument that he makes is he talks about oil prices. about declining oil prices and how oil prices have been linked so much to the nuclear talks in the united states. he's saying because oil prices are falling so dramatically vladimir putin is in a weak place. hard liners in iran are in a weak place. it gives the united states a position of strength in dealing with them. what do you make of the specific argument? >> he's a great thinker but wrong on this. one of the things i give the administration credit for in the national security strategy that it released is it had the guts to say the word strategic patience which means strategic
restraint. the temperature is high and hot on other things. when it comes to dealing with putin and russia when it looks like it was a basket case i interviewed richard haas and asked when you were at the state department did anybody think about what russia would look like when it became strong. it was rich and powerful again. resorting back to muscle memory of trying to pick up the buffer zone. why not give an opportunity to have a track to nato so we wouldn't have are this today. i would remind david ignatius we made very bad policy. our problem with russia was rooted back in the decision where the united states was high in the saddle. russia was a mess mess. we didn't think ahead 10 15 years when russia grows back into form it may begin acting
with muscles again. we tend to get it wrong. we need to think more strategically, less reactively and more long term. david usually does that. i'm a great fan of his. the article he has was wrongheaded in my view. >> can i make a point about the article? these articles in yen. what strikes me is how many notes of agreement david ignatius has and in the article, while also suggesting alternatives they take. these columns are written by people who are home alone. that's my thinking. i read them and think, you know, if dade was in the white house meet ging, he probably in that discussion and many other such columnists on many subjects including domestics, he probably would have found himself
agreeing with the group decision of what to do given all of these things. >> the broaderer question here the idea of have we gone stopped acting like a super power. that's the thesis after the experience in iraq. after a vietnam we wouldn't touch anything on the scale. then we have the first gulf war in 1991 and we can take out saddam, have a regime change in iraq. everybody votes for the war in iraq. that goes haywire. we have gone back in the other direction. is there something to be said. did we over react too much to the experience in iraq? >> i think we did. one of the interesting challenges of being a super power in the world -- and let's be honest. it's often a matter of mystique and the i vags of iraq the sense that the united states extended the military too far, that it couldn't fight two
battles in the world at the same time. we became an economic mess internally shattered the mystique of american power in the world and other nations began to doubt our resolve in either challenging threats or our allies began to doubt whether we we would be there like we would have been years ago for them in times of crisis. so it's not just a matter of posture, of just asserting yourself. it a has a lot to do with the combined assets and the stock price, if you will you will. does the world look ahead in 20 years, see the united states and its power on the rise? power is not just a function of throwing a military bombing raid here and there. power is a function of getting other people to do what you want without using power. that's the mistake. obama inherited one of the worst economic messes and a military miss.
barack obama is trying to show the united states has the ability to make a strategic list to impact the things that matter and not get distracted by things that are lower level. >> steve clemons of the atlantic. thanks for joining us. lawrence o'donnell will join us on the other side of the break. we want to bring you up to speed on the six people charged in the u.s. on allegations they helped support isis. the federal indictments were unsealed last night. they are charged with conspiracy and providing material support to terrorists overseas. they were accused of funneling money, guns and military equipment to isis fighters in the middle east. five of them are in custody now this the united states. the sixth is at large overseas. still ahead, a very special surprise guest appearance in our up against the clock tournament of champions finals. it's alex trebek. and why is lawrence o'donnell less than impressed with president obama's prayer
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>> president obama's remarks coming before isis claimed the death of 26-year-old american captive kayla mueller. in the speech the president condemned isis but compared their acts to the crusades over 900 years ago. in those remarks drew har sh rp criticism from the right and from some on the left. bill don bill don uh hue accused obama of trying to deflect guilt from muslim mad men. islam weighing in on the show last night the say the president missed the point. >> i made this point myself a billion bleep times. if i was living in the 16th century it would be christianity i woing after because they were the most violent and intolerant. but we are not. the problem with obama making this statement is he doesn't make the follow up statement i do. we did it then. they are doing it now.
here to talk about it josh dubois of faith based on neighborhood partnerships. lawrence o'donnell host of the last word on set. let me start with you. the criticism the speech is starting to take now, the idea that yes, christianity did horrible things. horrible atrocities during the crusades. the president glossing over the fact that 800 years separated these things. >> the president talked about the crusades and also jim crow and slavery. less than 60 years ago in this country and certainly over the last hundred years african-americans were hung up from trees and their sneks were with snapped. black men were charred and people who claimeded to be christians stood in front of their wide oy bodies.
people have been doing terrible things in the name of the religion. let's not blame an entire faith for the evil that people do in the name of the faith. that's a really important distinction. it isn't is ancient history. he connected the crusades to things that happened less than a hundred years ago. >> lawrence what do you make of this? >> the backlash is worldwide. china is objecting to references to the dalai lama. i'm glad he pissed off china with references to honoring the dalai lama. india is mad because india was dragged into the discussion of isis. we are talking here about scale. yes. the only comparable event in terps of religious war you can come up with is 800 years ago. and it is a comparable event.
it was 800 years ago and what's important about it is that catholocism was running the crusades and christianity grew out of that. how will the use of the religion in this way be something that eventually people in the region tens of thousands of them who were involved in this moved beyond that. how do they move beyond it? it took centuries. as far as the jim crow stuff is concerned, we are with talking about scale. we are talking about numbers and talking about religion. the reason people were killed by the ku klux klan was the color of their skin not their religion. the klan hated jus and catholics. and did not lynch jews and
catholics. they lynched black people. they assassinated only black people. to include that in a reference to an army. an active army that's out there in the tens of thousands and has worldwide reach. that can assassinate cartoonists in paris. the ku klux klan never assassinated a cartoonist in new york. we are talking about a scale that makes the comparisons irrelevant. >> with all due respect. let's talk about scale. the brutality of the atlantic slave trade all the way through reconstruction and jim crow which extended into the middle of the 20th century killed at least 16 million african-american americans. isis is brutal. the president condemned them as a death cult. all affidavit islamic terrorists -- >> josh i -- >> if i could -- >> i don't mean to interrupt. but the distinction made by credit i think so of the speech
is as horrible as the slave trade was it's being done in the name of profit. >> that's an his to call inaccuracy. people were directly using their faith to justify the subjugation and annihilation of black africans in the country. that's how people justified it. we should not condemn christianity. it wasn't jesus. it was evil men did in the name of jesus. in the same way we should not condemn muslim americans and muslims around the globe for the evil being perpetrated in the name of islam. >> no one condemns islam. >> yes, they do. >> not in this program. there are people saying they would like the president to declare war on islam. that's crazy. what the president is involved in and what the united states military is involved in is a war against the islamic state. they are doing that.
i agree with you. he did make a a reference to slavery. people were always citing religious justification for what they were doing. that was always a part of it. this is a uh unique kind of threat. >> it's not unique. people are doing evil thing this is the name of religion. that's terriblement we should not con testimony the religion itself. people are con flating things. you and i may not. steve may not. there were a lot of folks. the president is saying -- >> that doesn't mean we have to be silent about the connective tissue these people are bringing to what they are doing from religion to what they are doing. the president is argue in the speech that this is a perversion
of the religion. that's a good line of argument. let me read to you in the corrective article today in the new york time that is the white house has out there about what the president meant to say. when you're in a situation with a speech where you have to do an article about what the president meant to say it didn't work. the spokesman says i think what the president was trying to say, over the course of human history there are times when extremists pervert their own religion to justify violence. if that was the line he used word for word there would be no controversy. none. >> this is why there is a corrective article. the reason is immediately when the president uttered this basic historical analogy folks with a vested interest in showing that he's somehow scolding america, lost their minds. >> that's not true. >> i'm not talking about you. >> i have never heard -- >> not you. >> an obama speech i have -- in fact -- >> what i'm saying is jim gill more and donahue. >> i'm not in the business of
attacking what president obama says. >> i i agree with you. >> joshua in honor of lawrence o'donnell i will give you the last word. keep it short. >> sure. i'm saying when jim gill more and bill donahue and on the hard right -- >> those are crazy people. >> that's what was written up and is being responded to uh now. we cannot have thoughtful -- >> bill donahue is a fraud. he represents no one. >> joshua with dubois in chicago. lawrence o'donnell here in new york. that was an interesting conversation. i appreciate it. i wish we could continue it. you can catch lawrence o'donnell on weeknights at 10:00 p.m. eastern. the last word here. 30 minutes from uh now, one of these three contestants can brag that he or she is the new up against the clock national champion. the championship game, the final game is coppingming up. and bernie sanders will speak at the pennsylvania progressive summit, but will speak to us
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just minutes from uh now vermont senator bernie sanders will take the stage at the progressive summit in harrisburg pennsylvania. like hillary clinton sanders who is an independent still has said he's thinking of running for president. he was called perhaps the democratic party's best vessel to push clinton to the left in the democratic primary. we have bernie sanders with us just before he goes in to talk to the crowd. thanks for taking a few minutes this morning. you are walking into a room full of democrats starting to think about 2016. what are you going to tell them? >> what i'm going to tell them is at a time when we have more income and wealth and equality since 1929 the middle class is continuing its 40-year decline.
we need a bold progressive agenda to stand up to the billionaire class. we need to create millions of decent paying jobs. we need to raise the minimum wage to a living wage. we need a national health care program which guarantees health care to all of our people. do you think she's in a line with that agenda? people who are prepared to take on the koch brothers wall street. and to try to get the united states government. it's a radical idea to start working for work withing people rather than just the top 1%. where we are now is quite unbelievable. since the wall street crash, 99%
of new income generated goes to the top 1% as we have the highest level of childhood poverty in the industrialized world. that's crazy. i think we need a political revolution in this country. we need to get people once again actively involved in the political process and take on the people who have the real power in america. >> you say the question is better directed at hillary clinton. i tend to agree. she was invited to speak at the event where you are. she declined the invitation. she's not saying much for the last few months in terms of accepting invitations to appear on television speeches to groups like the one with you're at today. is hillary clinton taking it for granted? >> again, you have to speak to hillary clinton. i'm assuming she'll run. i have not made a decision. if i do run and if hillary clinton runs me. there will be a real clash of ideas. i happen to like and respect
hillary clinton. i respect on issues of massive investments in infrastructure on tax reform and a need to deal with the planetary crisis of climate change on the trans pacific partnership. i suspect we'll have real differences. >> i want to ask you looking ahead to the next two years between now and when the election finishes up we are in a situation with the democratic president. republican control in the senate now. republican control in the house. you talk about laying out your agenda here. do you think there is a prospect for progress on the agenda you have laid out in the next two years? >> this is what i think. if some of us are successful in mobilizing the american people and in a sense giving the republicans an offer they can't refuse, yeah we can be successful. let me give you an example. right now the republicans are preparing to cut disability benefits ander or social
security in general. that's a widely unpopular idea. if we can mobilize the american people to a you know what we are not going to cut social security. we are going to expand social security. yeah, i think we can win the battle. the starvation wage we need to move toward $15 an hour. we can push republicans to raise the minimum wage higher than it is now. >> no decision on whether you will run for president. have uh you decide fd you run whether it would be as a democrat? >> well, it's going to take a lot of thought and talking to a lot of people. >> all right. bernie sanders, independent senator still from vice president. thanks for joining us. appreciate that. >> thank you very much. >> everything from here on out this morning on the show will have to be phrased in the form of a question. alex trebek another special
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clock." the moment you have been waiting for all year has arrived. these three contestants -- sam, jessica and josh survived the gauntlet that's the regular season and the tournament. they are here to play for glory, hon er and an incredible prize which we'll tell you about later on. but the quick refresher here. you have all been watching all year playing. you know the rules. this is three rounds of play. the questions get harder as we go along. a hundred points 200, 300. this is the championship game. we have expanded the rounds. they are super sized in 105 seconds now instead of 100 seconds. the most important thing, you can ring in at any time but you will be penalized for incorrect answers. keep that in mind. studio audience i say welcome to you and also please no outbursts. [ cheers and applause ] with that you see the cheering sections for our players here today. we are going to put a hundred
seconds on the clock. i have the first round questions here. the championship game begins with this. it was reported this week that new york city will likely be the site of the 2016 presidential campaign headquarters of hillary hillary -- >> brooklyn or queens. >> incorrect. who is the wife of the former president. >> clinton. >> a little twist there. a confirmation hearing was held wednesday before the senate armed ser vises committee for this obama nominee -- josh. >> ash carter. >> for secretary of defense. josh ties the game. hundred point toss up. the united states is pressing for its new embassy to be opened by april in this -- jessica. >> cuba. >> p incorrectment i will complete the question. in the cuban capital city. >> havana. >> josh in the lead. hundred-point toss up. according to david axellele rod's forth coming book in 2007 then senator barack obama said he wished he could buy, quote, a boat load. >> apple iphone.
>> apple stock, that's correct. >> hundred point toss up. california governor jerry brown this week indicated his support for eliminating virtually all measles vaccine exemptions after a recent deadly outbreak that started at this -- >> disneyland. >> correct. stop the clockment very exciting for you. the measles outbreak started at disneyland. they are cheering because you have triggered our video bonus question. very simple. this is a risk free proposition for uh you. we have a famous quote to be read by a famous person. if you can identify who said it we'll give you an extra hundred points. i will ask you to direct your attention to the video monitor. get ready for this. mr. alex trebek. >> hello. i'm alex trebek with this week's up against the clock quote of note. this french general and statesman once remarked that politics is too serious a matter to be left to the politicians.
who was it? i remind you, this is the tournament of champions, so answer carefully and good luck. >> charles de gaulle. >> that's correct. listen to alex trebek there. hundred extra points for josh. we set the clock in motion on thursday. a blood clot hospitalized rick snyder is governor of -- >> michigan. >> in an effort to prepare for what would be his second presidential campaign this possible candidate recruited more than 80 major -- sam. >> ooh, rick perry. >> correctment at the wire. hundred point toss upment the new york times reported that chris christie took a trip to jordan in 2012 and socialized with bono -- sam. >> king abdullah. >> the iconic singerer for what -- >> u2. >> correct. ends the round. at the wire josh has the early lead with 600 points. jessica behind with a hundred.
sam in negative territory. this is the 200 point round. you can make up a lot of ground. the questions are twice as hard twice as valuable. a hundred seconds on the clock. the construction of the keystone pipeline could increase greenhouse gas emissions according to a report from this federal agency. >> state department? >> incorrect. >> the epa. >> 200 for josh. filing for bankruptcy this week was the electronics retailer -- >> radio shack. >> incorrect. was the chain radio shack whose first store opened more than 90 years ago -- sam. >> 1921 in boston. >> 200 points for sam. the online nickname dread pirate roberts used by ross ulbrek founder of silk road who was found guilty of drug trafficking this week was taken from a 1987 romantic comedy film. >> oh -- >> time. >> it was "the princess bride." inconceivable. .
calling it a reversion to the peace work of the 19th century. the sharing economy was denounced this week by this former labor secretary. josh? >> robert reich. >> correct. josh gets 200 points for answering the question and you have triggered the use it or lose it bonus questionment simple here. for 200 points you can use the bonus question. it is related to the one with you answered or choose not to answer it and lose the 200 points. you get 200 extra if you get it right. will you use the question or lose it. >> use it. >> here it is. in 2002 robert reich ran for governor of massachusetts, finishing in second place in the democratic primary to this woman who went on to lose the general election to mitt romney. >> shannon o'brien. >> correct. 200 points for josh. big lead. after a series of revelations about his fiancee the largest --
sam. >> john kitsaber. >> 200 point toss up. a ban was proposed this week by the new governor of illinois. josh? >> bruce ronner. >> alleging that their constitutional right to representation is being violated. a group of voters in new york this week filed suit demanding that a special election bel called to replace -- >> michael grim. >> incorrect. to replace former congressman michael grim in an election to be called by this governor. sam. >> andrew quo moe. >> correct. saying smoking marijuana was a youthful decision he now -- >> ted cruz. >> incorrect. he now regrets. a spokesman for ted cruz admitted use to this publication. >> daily mail. >> 200 for jessica. the end of the second round. sam in second place. josh, pretty far ahead now at 1400. >> answer some questions wrong. >> the round of champions, 300 point questions. the hardest, mostle valuable miracles happen in the third
round. we have seen it before. will we see it again? dim the lights for dramatic effect. put a hundred seconds on the clock. ladies and gentlemen, let's crown a champion. champion. a major cyberattack compromised the data of tens of millions of customers of -- >> anthem. >> incorrect. of the insurance giant anthem which until last december went by this name. >> anthem blue cross blue shield. >> incorrect. >> thursday's national prayer practice the keynote address was given by a nascar hall of famer. >> waltrip. >> most of the cast of the '90s teen sitcom "saved by the bell" was reunited including an actor that played the principal. >> dennis haskins.
>> despite a year that resulted in more than $4 billion worth of recalls, 48,000 union workers found out this week they will receive bonuses higher than usual from this auto giant. >> gm. >> as long as it retains the child's dignity, pope francis approved of what discipline? >> spanking. >> new york governor andrew cuomo will not sign a budget unless it includes a full slate of reforms. >> speaker of the assembly. >> a nominee for best spoken word album at tomorrow's grammy awards is an audio book for a call to action written by which former u.s. president? jessica? >> bush.
>> incorrect. do you want to take a guess? >> no. >> doesn't matter. jimmy carter is the answer. josh is the champion. 2,300 points. josh, an incredible accomplishment as our champion you have a very very special prize package, which we'll tell you about right now. no we're not. we're bringing out sammy the seagull. you are going to throw out the first pitch at a brooklyn cyclones game. sammy the seagull is here to present it. congratulations. >> nobody has ever given me a big thick check before. >> you have to bring that to the gate to get in. we're paying for the subway ride. jessica and sam, thank you very much. with real aged cheddar now in a convenient cup. new stouffer's mac cups. made for you to love.
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>> i'm not ready. my brother has been making so much fun of me saying i won't get it over the plate. >> you have three months to do it. >> jessica, so many memories from this season. one of the high scorers in regular season. jessica, you upset the defending champion in the first round. sorry you came up short. >> me too. >> there's always next year. >> that's what the cyclones say. sandy, again, the mascot here we loved having you be part of the show. a big thank you to alex trebek for being part of the show today. i love that. congratulations again to josh. thank you for watching this this season. a lot of fun. you can always play online. we have an online version. join us tomorrow sunday morning 8:00 a.m. guess who will be on the show tomorrow? senator al franken will talk about something he's very passionate about. maybe i'll ask him about that "snl" reunion coming up. we interviewed him and he did. up next you'll want to watch.
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