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isis drown out the other voices of moderation. >> this is an ongoing conversation. i'm sorry we have to leave it there. thank you so much. that is all for us. "the ed show" is coming up next. good evening americans, and welcome to "the ed show," live from washington, d.c. let's get to work. tonight, the campaign against isis in its international impact. >> isis is escalating its relentless assault. >> i'm confident that we will ultimately prevail. >> the goal of isis is to conquer the world. >> we all have a stake. it's our public safety. it is our homeland security. it's our country. and later, five years after the spill, we focus in on tourism and the seafood industry. >> the fear was it was going to
start washing up here on shore. >> the oysters have declined. a lot of the oyster men had quit. >> i know i'm just a little guy. i don't have much chance but i'm not going to give up. plus the fight to save the postal service gets some star power. >> i'm danny glover and i believe the postal service is one of our most vital institutions. >> we're hoping with public pressure to turn it around, stop the changes. >> now more than ever we need the postal service to thrive and innovate for the future. good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. we start with breaking news. president obama just finished what turned out to be a rather major speech at today's white house summit on battling violent extremism. the president immediately addressed the threat of isis. >> this isn't our challenge alone. it's a challenge for the world. isil is terrorizing the people of syria and iraq beheads and
burns human beings in unfathomable acts of cruelty. we have seen deadly attacks in ottawa paris, and now copenhagen. we have martialed the full force of the united states government. we are working to protect the american people. given the complexities of the challenge and the nature of the enemy, which is not a traditional army this work takes time and will require vigilance and resilience. >> president obama said terrorism extremist groups are based in lies. >> al qaeda and isil and groups like it are desperate for le
legitimacy. that's why isil presumes to declare itself the islamic state and they propagate the notion that america and the west generally is at war with islam. that's how they recruit. that's how they radicalize young people. we must never accept the premise that they put forward because it is a lie. nor should we grant these terrorists the religious legitimacy that they seek. they are not religious leaders. they are terrorists. >> groups like isis do not represent the faith of islam. >> do draw selectively from the islam texts. they do depend upon the
misperception around the world that they speak in some fashion for the people of the muslim faith that islam is somehow inherently violent, that there is some clash of civilizations. of course, the terrorists do not speak for over a billion muslims who reject their hateful ideology. no religion is responsible for terrorism. people are responsible for violence and terrorism. >> the president was strong to make the moment that muslim leaders play a role in stopping extremist recruitment. >> just as leaders like myself reject the notion that terrorists generally represent islam, muslim leaders need to do more that our nation's are determined to suppress islam,
that there's an inherent slash in civilizations. everybody has to speak up very clearly that no matter what the grievance, violence against innocence doesn't defend islam or muslims. it damages islam and muslims. >> and finally, president obama made the big point that everyone plays a role in combatting violent extreechlmeismextremism. >> when all of us together are doing our part to reject the narratives of violent extremists, when all of us are doing our part to be very clear about the fact that there are certain universal precepts and values that need to be respected in this interconnected world, that's the beginnings of a partnership. as we go forward, we need to find new ways to amplify the voices of peace and tolerance
and inclusion, and we especially need to do it online. >> today's summit at the white house and this speech comes after isis has dominated news in recent weeks. meanwhile, the obama administration is bringing the fight to isis with a change in trade policy. the united states has set new rules to export armed drones to other countries. the rules make it easier to provide predator and reaper drones to allies involved in counterterrorism measures. the state department said there will be strict standards for the sale and use of these drones. this change in trade policy will absolutely effect our national security, and i think that there are other issues involved here. i think the transpacific partnership also plays a role in our national security. i think the president is going along with the tpp because he
wants to strengthen the economic ties with these countries and also strengthen the defense ties. when you tie 40% of the world's economy together you rely on each other. it will be easier to open military bases in these countries and do counterterrorism measures. it will also be easier to get them on board fighting isis in the long run. this is my theory in all of this because so far in trade policy the administration has not given us a real good reason why american workers or how american workers are going to benefit from this trade agreement. the economic push around the gold right now is about the best thing we have when it comes to fighting terrorism across the globe. i don't think the tpp is the way to go. i have always been against the tpp and always for american workers. there are other methods and other ways we can do this. this is a flawed trade
agreement. to muddy it up with national security, i think is a mistake. appreciate your time. >> good to be here. >> have we done as much as we can do when it comes to a strategy with isis at this point? i mean i think today that this summit at the white house and this speech was the president really putting the icing on the cake of what kind of strategy he wants. he wants turkey involved, the iraqis iraqis, the jordanians, the egyptians. all culminating to work against these extremists that are isis and also their recruiting methods. this was a big speech today by the president, and i think it played really into his strategy. have we gone as far as we can go on isis and what we're doing? is this it? >> i think at this point we probably have, especially since what the president said i think
is very circumspect with regard to how he wants to develop this strategy. despite the tragic events that have happened in the last few days weeks, regarding isis four fists of the world plus still has about as much chance of dying from a terrorist attack as they do from a lightning strike. we don't need to overhype this. the second point i would make is that historically the united states through its policies and actions in the world been the greatest aider and abetter of the rise of these forces. first iraq and then takeingeing gaddafi out of libya. expecting they're going to be democracy afterwards was a bit naive. we started it in my
administration by invadeing iraq one of the most disastrous decisions that america has made in a long time. fighting these sources in libya and syria and iraq and elsewhere makes a lot of sense. it is the only way to do it. putting american ground forces in there simply aids and abets the process i just deferred to earlier. all you're going to do is create more of them because they are going to be insent vised not only by doing their radical islamic thing, but by killing american forces on the ground. >> what is your readability on drone technology to our allies? >> now we're supporting almost
any government that is fighting terrorists. to put drones into that bag might be good for lockheed martin and ratheon that manufactured these drones but it is not a smart thing to do in the technology spread. all technology migrates. as we saw with nuclear weapons, with you don't you don't want drones to speed up this process. >> this is going to rope other countries into killing other civilians, but is the latest hottest, and easiest technology for taking out terrorists -- but i sense you think this is a slippery slope. >> you just put your finger on
it. in order to be reasonably assured you're doing the enemy in and not civilians, you must have a massive and good intelligence complex. tactical and strategy operations. they're just going to go kill whatever happens to show up in the apature of the mechanism. the world is awash in arms. look at libya. we used air power in libya with nato. they constitute the greatest arms bizarre in africa. 20,000 shoulder fired missiles all kinds of weaponry available to isis and isis like forces because libya had its dictator
taken down. >> i want your take on the economic ties the united states has with other countries when it comes to trade. are we selling security? >> we are selling security. we've been doing it since world war ii. they are designed to facilitate arms sales. there are as many security, hard security kpliimp implications to the trade pacts than economic pacts. >> can this happen? >> i think it can, but it's got to be the native forces so to
speak. i think in iraq what i'm seeing right now we have pretty much stabilized the situation. in syria, it is a little bit different because we're not able to do what we should be doing, which is really taking assad. i don't care how you do it. i don't care how you camouflage it. >> we should be arming the syrian rebels. >> we should not be arming the syrian rebels. >> because they're talking about doing that training and vetting. light trucks mortars, and small arms. how are you going to beat isis with that kind of fire power? that kind of defeats the purpose, i think. >> when we talk about the number of arms in the world today, small arms in particular the world is awash in them. there are so many arms out there for these people and yet we didn't secure the ones in libya. we didn't secure the ones in
iraq and yet we're selling weapons to the so-called rebels in libya and syria. we do not need more arms. >> great to have you with us tonight. i appreciate your time. i want to follow up on this issue of trade because this has been a big story on this show. i want to bring in the director of public citizen global watch. good to have you with us tonight. i would like to have your reaction on the united states selling security and of course when you look at the enormous tpp, the transpacific partnership, it involves 40% of the world's economy, these would be new partnerships with countries we don't have these kinds of ties with. do you think there's a connection? >> i see where you're going with it because the agreement doesn't make sense in an economic basis. it would make it easier to
offshore our jobs. first, we have trade agreements with most of the countries involved in tpp and the ones we don't have relationships with aren't the countries that are going to be leading the counter isis effort but also the agreement predates all this blowing up in the middle east. what you do see is the administration now looking at this trade data. more jobs lost. that was the model for tpp. now they're trying to create sort of a distraction. they're now using the issue of we better write the rules or china will. that really is the trade agreement of squirrel. we all go look someplace else
because if you actually look at it, we have heard the same exact argument. we heard it with nafta. what china is or isn't going to do could be a real issue. but to give away our ability to defend ourselves by making our own stuff doesn't improve our ability to counter china. during nafta we were told if we don't write the rules, china is going to write the rules if latin america. we had 69% of exports going to mexico. now we have 40%. who moved in? china. it is not a foreign policy solution. >> always great to have you with us tonight. i appreciate your time here on "the ed show." the united states postal service has a new lethal weapon.
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you're a small town america. they deliver 30% of fedex's ground segment. the postal service employees over 626,000 people including approximately 130,000 military veterans. it is a shining example of "we the people" at work. which is why "we the people" need to stand up and fight and keep the postal service alive. they have a grand alliance to save our public postal service. in a coalition of 65 groups mobilizing across the crisis affecting this institution. so when you hear people say that the post office isn't making
money, it depends on what you're talking about. it is something no other business is required to do. as a result more than 140 mail processing facilities have closed since 2012. 82 more. that's 82 more are scheduled to close or consolidate this year in 2015. what's that mean? slower service. slashed hours of operation at neighborhood post offices and threaten to lower service standards. thousands of postal service workers have lost good living wage jobs and it is unnecessary. the postal service a democratic right in the constitution. under a do nothing congress it is up to us to protect it. ask yourself the question tonight in your town do you really want your postal service office to close? joining me tonight danny glover actor and spokesman for the postal service. also the president of the
american postal workers union. gentlemen, great to have you with us tonight. mark let's talk about this alliance that you have. what is it? what are the expectations? >> it is 65 national organizations and that's just the beginning that have from many walks of life from faith based to labor based to advocacy to civil rights based, that have a strong feeling they need to join together and protect the common good in a vibrant post office. what they expect to do in time -- right now the flag has been raced, but they want to work together to promote good legislation, to meet the postal service, to make sure their concerns are being heard and to stop the downward slide of less service, slower service and to turn that around and be part of what you said in your opening. "we the people." they're declaring that "we the
people" are going to stand together. >> mr. glover this is personal to you, isn't it? >> it is. my parents came to the post office at the beginning of my maturation was through what i saw -- how i saw them as young people, young parents, who were building a family building their life. that life would not have been built had it not been for their employment at the post office and the postal service and the work that they did and the belief that they had things were changing in this country with their work. >> the big thing about the postal service is it hires a lot of veterans and has a tradition of doing that and you saw that. >> my father was a veteran of world war ii. he had certain preference when he was hired in 1948. my brother was a veteran of vietnam. that helped in his hiring as a letter carrier in the 70s after he came back from vietnam. yes, it does that.
we're talking about something else. we're talking about how do we change the narrative around here. the narrative has always been placed upon the idea of profit the return on investment. the narrative is based upon greed. the post office has never worked on greed. it is a central part of this whole change in america with the expansion of public service. the idea ofization privatization is based upon the concept of competition. what about the concept of cooperation? things happen. people change. communities change. people grow not by competition, but cooperation. some people may think that is esoteric.
i go to the same pose office in san francisco that i have gone to since i was 11 years old. >> if you didn't have this legislation thrown on you in 2006, you'd have a different bottom line. >> absolutely. the operating profit of the post office this last quarter was $1.1 billion. last year $1.3 billion to the good, where it not for this prefunding hoax manufactured by congress. >> you're being attacked by the profiteers. >> that's right. that's right. >> what do you hear from postal workers? are they mad about this? >> generally, from what i see, we're at the same time that we're building this grand alliance. we're raising the conscious of workers themselves those who are most endangered by this. on the one hand we get it easy
in a particular place. i remember when my parents were involved in the union and involved with employees and everything else. there was something else that drove them as well and that was the civil rights movement. you see that played out through their work as postal employees involvement in union. i think there's a sense of the change is -- my own interpretation, the change is going to happen. we can't play a role in facilitateing the kind of change that belongs to us. it is our responsibility to be the participants in our own rescue. >> the american people have a great grip on what's happening in their community. if you live in a community, you know what's happening. you know what's going on. where's the march to get rid of the postal service? where's the outcry of the people? it's not there. this is such a manufactured attack by people who see an
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bp believes the restoration has been successful. it cites tourism numbers. dean blanchard believetells us why bp has a long way to go in repairing the place he calls home. >> it's an old saying but with this guy it really fits. dean blanchard is the salt of the earth. >> we never asked for nothing. we never got government money or nothing. i never collected a penny from the government in my life. >> a tell it like it is rageing cajun on a mission. >> 800 or 900 shrimp boils. >> 800 or 900? >> i'm asking the president of
the united states to come save the state of louisiana because it is a crime. please do something. >> just right out here? >> just right out there. >> they're not here now. >> they're gone. >> you didn't see this much oil west of the river. >> it's here. we touched it. we got off the helicopters. it is like when you were a little kid with cake mix or brownie mix. it's that thick. >> there may be submerged oil. we have had reports of tar balls becoming beneath the booms not along the surface. >> there's no reason for them to come. they'll come every once in a while and just look. they don't stay long. >> the shrimp industry has changed and he's mad about it. >> so all the shrimpers that were out here, where are they now? are they out of business? >> a few of them went out of business. the ones that didn't want to leave, they took other jobs
mostly with the oil companies. they have to go to the people that pretty much put them out of business. >> today he's an activist and advocate to make things right. many local seafood workers believe the tar balls are a direct result of the chemicals used to clean up the gulf. >> cleaning up tar balls and paddies in bbuluxi. >> it took us two to three weeks to realize something ain't right here. >> nobody is out doing their business right now if you are a commercial fishermen. most of them are out trying to stop this oil. >> they tried to arrest me three times for going over there to
see what the hell was going on. the fella told me it was none of my business. he just destroyed 30 years of work. what do you mean? >> i had to call the governor's office and get the governor to get the coast guard to let us go so we could get out of there. they wouldn't let us get close to the oil to film it. >> real estate here may never be the same. >> it dropped down. a lot that was going for $500,000 is now going for $250,000. this is a small place. it's not like florida. it was a place to come with your family. we have very little crime down here. if you like the fish this was the place to come because the shrimp would come here and the fish would follow them for the food. right now when the spill came most of oil came in about a
30-mile circle in this place. so the shrimp went around the whole and they went to the western part of the state, so the fish followed the food you know? >> so life has really changed here? >> it's been a nightmare. i mean we woke up one morning living in paradise and went to living in hell. >> and finding things like this on the beach certainly doesn't help. >> i would have never believed it unless i saw it. >> how many chemicals do you think you have to spread to make a liquid turn into this? >> so this is -- >> that's oil. >> this is oil? >> look inside. >> they poured so much chemical on it it hardens and it becomes -- >> and it sank to the bottom. >> it hardens like this and then it sinks to the bottom. this is all along the beach here
in grand isle. >> i just found it right there. how long have we been here? that's after 30 people have cleaned up every morning. >> this is just amazing. >> the ripple effect on main street throughout the gulf is a amazeing amazing. >> shortly after the oil spill there was hope it was going to get cleaned up it was going to be rectified. there wasn't going to be an impact to the beaches here. the fear was it was going to start washing up here on the shore and what was going to happen with tourism and it did. >> the locals can't support the local businesses. i know from talking to other business owners that it did affect them -- for them it was an effect with the locals and tourism but their businesses were straight tourism. they basically had to shut their doors. >> the oysters have declined. a lot of oyster men quit because
we didn't have oysters. our crews downsized a lot. >> it seems every walk of life and every aspect of business has been affected. >> born and raised here. i'm not going to let bp run me out of my hometown. we're supposed to be free. i'm a cajun. in 300 years, we were thrown out of canada because of the british. i'm tired of running from the british. >> this is your land. this is your home. >> i'm going to make a stand right here. >> once again we have invited representatives of bp to join us on the show. they declined, but the invitation remains open. they directed us to their website, stateofthegulf.com.
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spill. five years later, some are fed up with hearing the crisis is over. >> today, the beaches are open for everyone to enjoy. we can all produce energy more safely. >> well, the beach is covered in many areas with streaks of oil and the sand is lined with tar balls in many areas. that contains the most toxic form of oil because of what was used to clean it up. tourism has not bounced back and neither has commerce in grand isle and many people have left. the mayor of grand isle wants some action taken and he joins us tonight. i'd like to know what would you like to see happen in grand isle louisiana? what has to happen? >> well like i said we've been dealing with this for five years, ed. and between the council and myself and dealing with the
situation in grand isle and trying to take care of the people who make a living on the island, especially the people the fishermen and charter boat captains and even people at my residence, my business people we've lobbied a lot. we had the president that came in. it looked like when he came in at the beginning, he pushed things and then when he left things were left alone. so in the meantime thank god we went through different types of low pressures and hurricanes but dealing with the bp oil spill is completely different than dealing with fema the federal government. but it's been a nightmare. been traveling all over between baton rouge, new orleans, and trying to convince the bp officials, when you have people come into your office that can't pay your gas people local
fishermen, they can't pay the gas bill and you're looking at the mothers and families and the kids, you tell them to buy the groceries and we do the best we can to get back on our feet. in the meantime tourists are coming back to the island and trying to enjoy the island. two fridays ago we picked up 191 pounds of tar balls. bp came in and promised a lot. our kids you know the mayor and councilman and chief of police with 6,000 people coming in on the island to try to clean up the beach, you don't know who is coming on the island. you have to get the different churches and get all the kids in with the parents and tell them it's going to change our way of lives and that's what happened. in the meantime you know we were still waiting on some help and i got a call from the governor's office that the budget is going to be tight, that we need a figure out a way to keep the state -- >> david, there's still a lot
that has to be done. >> yes, sir. >> would it be too much of a stretch to say that grand isle will never be the same? >> well you're right. it will never be the same. i'm begging the business people to have patience please it's going to get better. but when your fishermen and shrimp buyers make 30% less they can't pay their bills. this is the biggest shrimp buyer in the united states. we used to bring millions of pounds off of that island. we even have a factory that we brought back way back in -- >> and quickly, your residents, their lives have been turned upside down. correct, sir? >> yes. all of our lives have been turned upside down. when you have a fisherman that turns in receipts been here 40 years, which i'm one of them you are dealing with different type attorneys and being questioned over and over and
over, it gets frustrating. when you have elderly fishermen retired coming and asking me i can't get nothing from bp they want to check my freezers wondering if i'm a true fishermen. we don't need all of that bull. take care of our people. >> and we'll continue this focus. mayor, i appreciate your time. we'll visit again, my friend. thanks so much. that's "the ed show." "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts now. good evening, al. good evening. breaking news. president obama delivering a major speech on isis and fighting violent extremism around the world. the president saying he's confident the u.s. will prevail. >> in the face of this challenge, we have marshalled the full force of the united states government and we're working with allies