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this secret -- desire for him or something. >> oh, my god. that is desperation. okay? yes. it is. >> you get way too passionate. >> no. also i learned that sometimes during the south of france, you're there so much when you come back to the states you slip into speaking french. >> that does it for us here on "morning joe." if it's way too early what time is it joe? >> it's "morning joe," but stick around because we've got "the rundown" straight ahead. thanks for being with us. see you tomorrow, and thanks to tom hanks. and good morning. i am jose diaz-balart live this morning from the campus of florida university in south florida, a special edition of "the rundown." in a few hours i will be joined by president obama for a telemundo and msnbc town hall. the president's stance on immigration. republicans who want to stop the president have been withholding homeland security funding. money runs out in less than three day, but there may be
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maybe, a solution if speaker boehner and house republicans will go along with it. we'll hear from the speaker in about an hour following a closed doctor dosh meeting with his rank and file. up until yesterday, boehner and mcconnell seemed to be united on their strategy, sticking with a house bill that simultaneously funded dhs and rerails the president's action on immigration. tuesday mcconnell said he's put up a clean funding bill and deal with immigration separately. >> my hope is the senate will act, i don't know what the house will do but i do think we have a responsibility to act here. i don't know what's not to like about this. this is a an approach that respects both points of view and gives senators and opportunity to go on record on both. >> but less than ten minutes after mcconnell made his other harry reid said, it's not good enough.
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>> we have to make sure that people understand the nature of this congress that we serve in. so to have senator mcconnell just pass the ball over to the house isn't going to do the trick. i'm waiting to hear from the speaker. >> but when it comes to the house, there are no guarantees. dozens of republicans in the house believe holding the line on dhs funding is the best way to fight chances and changes in immigration. a letter signed by nearly two dozen house conservatives say now is the time to stand firm against these unlawful executive actions and boehner said he did his job when he sent the original bill. his spokesman said tuesday the speaker has been clear the house acted and now senate democrats need to stop hiding. continue to block funding for the department of homeland security or not. and remember the stakes. funding expires friday. add midnight. 63 hours from now. 30,000 dhs workers will be sent home and nearly 200,000 have to
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work without a paycheck. dhs secretary jeh johnson will continue to drive that point home all day today, speaking this morning and holding another press conference this afternoon. joining me now nbc's luke russert on capitol hill and chris jansing at the white house. thank you both for being with me. luke, start with you. mcconnell seems to have left speaker boehner in a tight spot? >> he is in a tight spot jose. from the folks i've spoken to last night and this morning, john boehner has three options here. he has to figure out a way to stand up in republican words to president obama over those immigration executive actions. figure out a way to do that. in terms of funding the department of homeland security, three things. put the clean bill on the floor, funds until september and replicate the senate strategy. he'd have the votes for that but mainly democratic and a real upset ultraconservative right flank, and two, do what you mentioned in the letter members want him to do. stay and fight.
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they believe the texas court gave them the constitutional argument. they want to continue to make this fight and want to do it now. think there's no better time to stand up to the president than the few weeks into their large majority here on capitol hill and number three, the third option, more likely than not going to be it they would temporarily fund the department of homeland security for a period of perhaps weeks or months and then have this same fight all over again come spring, and by the process of doing that figure out way to stand up to the president regarding immigration. the issue with that though is what exactly would it look like and can john boehner get the majority of his house republican conference to support it? we do not know but what we can tell you, jose is that again, it comes down to how much does john boehner want to upset the conservative right within his conference moving forward on something? if he doesn't, they'll most likely not shut down in a few days unless they can figure out a peacemeal idea. one more thing. there's a vacuum filled here
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after this house gop conference meeting that's very important. the conservative media. how hard do they push the speak jer he's come under a lot of fire from them in the last few weeks saying he's not been tough enough on this issue. if he does not relent on this issue he'll get their blessing but then the department is not funded. he's got a big decision he has to make here in the next few days. >> and i want to turn to chris. chris, how does the white house see this? because it feels as though the republicans, they're having an internal fight. this is heading, in a way, of victory politically to the white house? >> reporter: they definitely think in they're not funded the republicans get the blame for it. look both mitch mcconnell and jane boehner said they didn't want to have any kind of government shutdown. this obviously is the first time in a long time republicans have controlled both houses of congress, and so they think they have a good case to make and so what the white house plans to do is stay out of the direct negotiations.
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they don't think they can add anything to it but they feel pretty confident with harry reid's position, jose. >> chris jansing at the white house, luke russert at capitol hill. thank you both very much. good to see you both. i want to remind you that our exclusive town hall with president obama airs tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern time right here on msnbc. and 7:00 p.m. eastern on telemundo. so can you catch it in spanish at 7:00 and then switch over and see it in english at 8:00. now to an emotional day for three families in texas. >> we the jury find the defendant eddie ray routh guilty of the felony offensive of capitol hill murder as charged in the indictment that verdict -- >> after a late guilty verdict for eddie ray routh in the 2013 deaths of american sniper chris kyle and chad littlefield. littlefield's mother spoke out on the verdict this morning on "today." >> it was a -- an answered prayer. we've wait add long time waited a long time to hear that and
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feel justice was served. chad was always a helping hand you know. he was a rock. he was -- just a -- a good friend. if he was your good friend, had you a friend. >> routh just 27 years old faces life in prison without the possibility of parole and joining me now nbc's charles hadlock. good morning. routh originally pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity and there was plenty of evidence presented that seemed to support that theory. chad littlefield's brother slammed the idea talking to savannah guthrie and listen to what he said. >> huh. it was all an act. that's just the way he was. he never grew up. he was still just opposite defiant and obstinate defiant and he had nothing wrong in the mind. >> charles, why didn't hold up?
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>> well the jury just didn't buy it. in fact they spent just under 2.5 hours, that included having dinner before reaching this verdict that he was in fact guilty. they just didn't buy eddie routh's theory his attorneys' theory that he was suffering from ptsd from other mental illnesses including psychosis and schizophrenia. they just didn't buy that. they instead believed the prosecution here to they they were deal wig aing with a man who had troubles and troubles with alcohol and marijuana and high and drunk on the day chad littlefield came by to help. chad littlefield along with chris kyle. that was another point that the prosecution made in the closing arguments. that this isn't the american sniper trial. two men died in this. chris kyle and chad littlefield. two men trying to help eddie ray routh. in fact, at the end of the trial, at the end of the sentencing phase, the families were able to give an impact
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statement. that was not recorded. the judge would not allow that because it was very personal. let me just read what don littlefield, chad littlefield's father said. he said our son was trying to help you. you confess that you did not even know his name when you brutally murdered him. you will have the rest of your wasted life each and every day to remember his name. his name was chad littlefield. powerful words to the man who killed him. jose? >> thank you very much. and developing this morning on the west coast, new details in that commuter train crash breaking during "the rundown" here yesterday sending inging nearly 30 people to the hospital. at center of the investigation, this truck driver. following the story in oxnard california. miguel, good morning. >> reporter: jose, good morning. that commuter train has been taken off the tracks this morning. the ntsb says it's recovered the train's black boxes. the video and audio recordings
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sent to washington, d.c. to be analyzed. officials say the driver simply turned the wrong way on to the tracks. today he faces criminal charges. fire on the rails. an explosive collision during the morning commute into los angeles. >> a train at fifth and wright. >> reporter: a metro train plowing head-on into a pickup truck hauling a trailer at a rail crossing. >> the truck exploded outside the window. >> reporter: joel in the second car. >> everything started flying everywhere. >> the brush of death went over me. i definitely thought we could die. >> reporter: with three cars flipped on their sides, the 49 people onboard suffered moderate to major injuries. federal investigators are now on-scene. >> our ultimate goal is not only to find out what happened but we want to find out why it happened. >> reporter: the rail crossing with a history of accidents is known at one of the most dangerous in california.
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the truck driver jose sanchez ramirez, reportedly drove on to the tracks then fled the scene and was arrested a mile and a half away. >> he was taken into custody for a felony hit and run violation. >> reporter: officials say the train can reach a max speed of 79 miles per hour. the operator spotted the truck in the crossing, applying the emergency brakes early, slowing the train before the explosive impact. metrolink says the passenger cars are equipped with newly installed crumple bumpers which absorb collisions. >> the investment they made in crash management cars i believe saved lives. >> reporter: a devastating sdheen could have easily been deadly. with four people listed in critical condition this morning, the suspect's attorney says he simply made a mistake. and that he left the vehicle to go get help.
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jose? >> thank you so very much and we're just getting started on this special ensdition of "the rundown" at florida university. as if the snow and ice earlier weren't enough the south is about to get another winter blast. a live picture from atlanta where it may not look like it but the governor of georgia 5urd issued a state of emergency. the latest forecast. plus one of the stars of "orange is the new black," also there's a separation story of her own when her parents were deported. she's going to be here with me from florida international university after the break. ♪ okay, you ready to go? i gotta go dad! okay! let's go go, go, go... woah! go right, go left, go left stop! now go... (shouting) let's go!! i gotta go! can i go? yup! you can go. (beeping alert) woah! there you go! way to go!
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turning now to the vicious freeze that is slamming much of the south. cruise treated the roads in
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atlanta to get ahead of that storm that could shut down the metro area today. take a look at that. georgia's governor declared a state of emergency. it's going to begin at 2:00 p.m. >> let's just say the first two were practiced and we night getmight get the real thing. we're prepared to handle another winter event. >> joining me now bill karins with the latest forecast. >> atlanta will about close call and dallas for the most part, jose, in the morning, started with rain, sleet, snow. not horrible going through the the peak of their rush hour there. still coming down hard. let me break down who is getting hit by what. this is round two. round one yesterday. a lot more moisture. gulf of mexico wide open and plendy y plenty cold to the north. northern alabama, mississippi, tonight in northern georgia and definitely through the carolinas. if anyone is definitely
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guaranteeded to get hit the north carolina area and into southern porngss of maryland and delaware. 25 million people impacted by the latest winter storm and as far as what we're deal wig right now, again, it's on the move. it's going to move quickly, too. the dallas area has been seeing the heavier snow. again, it didn't accumulate badly. at far as accumulations, north carolina mountains could get 6 to 9 inches and could see somewhere around 9 inches possible in raleigh, greensboro durham area. a lot of snow for an area that doesn't -- maybe four to six inches a year typically. a big blockbuster convenient. sure the kids love it but everyone driving in it will hate it. >> good to see pup thank you. now back tolt reason why we're live from florida international university in south florida this morning. in a few hours president obama will be here to sit down with me and an audience for an exclusive town hall on immigration that
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airs right here on msnbc at 8:00 eastern time and also on telemundo. the immigration issue is extremely something that hits extremely close to a lot of people. but, for example, popular tv actress diane guerrero stars in the hit series "orange is the new black" and "jane the virgin." she's busy. when guerrero was 15 years old she got home to find her parents and brother were deported back to their native country of colombia. she is with me this morning. a pleasure. >> thank you for having me. >> what is it that you think you try to accomplish by sharing your story, and it's a very painful story. not one we'll be talking about the details, but just why is it important for to you share your story? >> well, i think it's important to put a face to what's going on. i think it's important to focus that it's focus on the fact it's a human issue and not just a political issue. i want to inspire others to also get involved. i think that by me shirearing my
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story, i feel like it opens up a lot of hearts. that's what i'm trying to do here. and also encourage others who are going through the same thing to get involved and participate as much as possible. >> anytime you open up and you speak from the heart, you're bound to get some reaction. >> sure. >> and including negative reaction. what are some -- what have you een about the negative reaction that struck you. i guess people not really understanding the issue and not even wanting to understand the issue, and i see it as fear. comments like maybe you should -- leave the country, or i don't consider you an american. >> go back to your home country. >> when my home country is here. >> you were born here. >> i was born here. >> i can't tell you how many times i get there. okay. i was born in fort lauderdale close to my home country. >> a lack of understanding what the system is about, and what it's really offered people like us navigating through the system. >> when you look at florida
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international university 60% of the student body is latino. there's a law school a med school. so vibrant, this university. and just behind us in just a couple of hours the president will be here to talk to folks about immigration. what would you like to hear the president say? >> well, i want him to be firm and to stand behind his beliefs and just tell us and encourage us to really go out there and apply. if you are eligible for daca and the dapa programs now is the time to really get involved and really see in you're eligible so that you can take advantage of the programing. because if you don't, then we can miss out on an opportunity to really show that there is a need for change. >> yes. diane, i know you're involved hosting a hangout, right? >> i did a google hangout. >> what was that like? >> great. weird to get involved like that because you're not physically there with the people. fantastic. you open up a conversation. what i'm here doing and
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important for now for a lot of us. >> you see it. a little promotional, a little graphic to show that there's going to be ininvolvement, look there you go. how to apply, look at wilmer. that steamy look. >> look at that picture. >> smything. >> yes. and congratulations on your success, two extraordinary programs. one with my dear friend. hue's he doing? >> great. silly all day. great, making the set fun and really talented. >> diane, thanks for being with me. i appreciate it and you're such a success story we look up to. thanks for being with me and i look forward to spending the rest of the day here at fiu if you. i want to take you now to look at life homeland security secretary jeh johnson calling on congress to change the wear they're funding his department and overt a shutdown. that's going on. he's doing this throughout the day. i want to remind you that this crisis of the shutdown of dhs,
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in venezuela, an explosion caught on tape. zoom through some of today's top stories. no word on the fate of at least 70 christians kidnapped by isis in syria on monday. many of them women and children. the kidnapping is adding to fears among religious minorities in both syria and iraq repeatedly targeted by isis. meanwhile, kurdish and christian militia are battling isis fighters in the north each part of the country which borders turkey and iraq. venezuelan police shot and kill add 14-year-old boy during an anti-government protest in the country's western region. officials say he die and the way to the hospital. venezuelan president ordered an investigation. last month his government changed policy to allow police to use deadly force to control protests. tensions are running high in venezuela following a recent bad economic news and the arrest last week of opposition mayor of caracas. and a gas explosion that rip
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add house apart in southern new jersey. the moment it was captured by a police dashcam. no one in the home but 15 people were hurt. two of them critically. crews had been on the scene working on a gas main leak at the time. people could feel the explosion a mile away. still much more ahead on this hour as "the rundown" continues to roll on. we get ready for a big town hall with president obama later today, but first a different president will join me after the break. mark roenzbergsenberg, president of this great university. good to see you, on the wide shot. talk about your college, when we come back. >> ready to go. mr. president, the world's dying to know, is it boxers or briefs? >> usually briefs. can't believe she did that.
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and now to why we are live this morning from the campus of florida international university in south florida. a key moment tonight in the immigration debate as the president comes face to face with those impacted by his immigration executive actions. an action that remains in legal limbo. immigration will be addressed tonight in this hall. in spanish and english, with an audience here and around the country as the debate wages on. tonight, from the campus of florida international university, an msnbc and telemundo exclusive. a houn town hall with president obama. >> there are actions i have the legal authority to take as president that will help make our immigration system for fair and more just. >> executive action or executive overreach? >> we don't believe that the president has the authority to do what he did. >> the president taking questions from the audience in the hall and across the country. >> we're still going to have to do more work.
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so -- i've heard you. i've heard you, young man, and i understand. i've heard you. >> with a future now in the balance for as many as 5 million undocumented immigrants. >> they proclaimed we are americans, we need to be seen and heard and we want to make a contribution to this society. >> the legal fight wages on. >> it's possible to shape a law that upholds our tradition as a nation of laws and a nation of immigrants. >> a debate that will shape the obama legacy and beyond. >> immigration reform for our country is so hugely important. we are as diverse as diverse can get and that is a huge strength. >> one of our greatest strengths is that we are a nation of immigrants, and we would give that up at our peril. >> reporter: our immigration system has been broken for a very long time and everybody knows this. for years we haven't done much about it. well, today we're doing something about it. [ cheers ] >> and joining me now live from
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florida international university is a different president. the president of this great university, mark rosenberg. what a pleasure to see you. >> jose good morning. >> talk about this town hall. how important is it for the university jrchlt very important. there's no university in the united states where immigration has been more consistently or more intensively debated than our fiu. in fact, this morning in the capital, in washington's capital, one of our law school faculty members is testifying before the judiciary committee on the immigration issue. we're thrilled to be hosting the president of the united states here, and we think it's very important that we have a serious conversation, because the nation, as you know is very intensively split over this critical issue. >> and mark in a very real way, this fiu campus is a position of american society and how it will look in the future. tell us about the body makeup? >> one of the most energized places.
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>> walking that quickly and that's not in fast motion. >> this is a city of immigrants and a university that mirrors that. 65% of our students are hispanic origin, half from cuba cuban-americans, the other half rest of latin america. another 15%, africa. and faculty 4 3% are immigrant or immigrant origin. you have really the face of america in the next two decades right here n. this university you also graduate people not only from a four-year degree also you have med school you have law school. you are offering folks an opportunity to reach the american dream from a very high academic level. >> no question. no question. >> talk to me about, you were the first in the state of florida to haver in-state tuition to dreamers when and why? >> when in 2013 and why, because we had the legal opening and opportunity to do that. number one and number two, it was the right thing do.
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number three, our mission really is to promote international understanding, and if we can't do that at home where can we do that? >> mark what do you want to hear? what do your students want to hear the president address tonight? >> i think our students are very practical and wants solutions. i think our students understand that immigration is a critical issue, and that we have not addressed it. and i think they're pleased that the president has taken action but they understand that really we need a more broad-based approach and congress ultimately has to come up with a stach other statutory basis to move forward. >> tonight right behind us the president will be here to talk about those issues. >> that's very important to us because we live it breathe it eat it here in this community and the fiu, we feel we have the sfont deal with the critical issues and that's what we're doing g. to see you. our next guest has a unique perspective on immigration as well as the only immigrant
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currently serves in the u.s. senate. in an op-ed for "the hill," writing, immigration reform isn't just a la teen or or border state issue. matters to all, asian-americans, pacific islanders and all states. democrat from hawaii joins me from capitol hill. a pleasure to see you. how are you? >> how are you, jose? so glad you led with that intro. >> well it's true and it is about all america. >> exactly. >> there are more than one in three hawaiians that are from asian dissent. what would you like to stress as we sit down with the president tonight? >> let me emphasize as an immigrant myself my mother brought me to this country escaping a terribly abusive marriage in japan and had a vision for a better future for her children and that is something so many immigrants millions of immigrants who came to this country and who are here now hope for also. so what i would like to see is
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comprehensive immigration reform much like we passed in the senate months and months ago. >> senator, when it comes to the president's 2012 daca program for dreamers only a small percentage of asians applied for deportation protection. china didn't even crack the top 20. why do you think that is? >> there are probably a number of reasons. they may be afraid to register. you know that kind of designation. after all, this is a community that was flagged out during world war ii for being placed into camps. so you know this may be part of the reason but i'm hopeful the 600,000 people daca out and the many more who can be helped bite president's recent actionless come out of the shadows and the more who come out and register i think the hard ter will be for the republicans, particularly in the house, to keep their heads
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in the sand about the need for comprehensive immigration reform. let me ask >> lpet me ask about the maneuvering. >> we need to have both the house and the senate vote on a clean bill, because for the senate to send a clean bill and the house is just going to put back the kind of amendments that brought us to this particular situation is not going to advance the dialogue. so what we need to send both the house and the senate is a clean bill for the president to sign and then we need to debate and pass comprehensive immigration reform that we have been calling on the house to do for over a year. it is really the ball being in speaker boehner's court right now. >> senator, finally i want to ask you about the controversy
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surrounding veteran affairs, secretary robert mcdonald. you sit on the v.a. committee. yesterday he apologized for making fall claims he had served with the special forces. listen to his comments, if you would. >> in an attempt to connect with that veteran, to make him feel comfortable, i incorrectly stated that i, too, had been in special forces. that was wrong, and i have no excuse. >> senator, can he survive this? es special hi at a critical time trying to rebuild trust for an ax that fail sewed many of our veterans? >> he made the statement talking with a homeless veteran and i know eliminating homelessness in veterans is a top priority for him. so he misspoke. he apologized. and he will move forward as will the rest of us in supporting the veterans in our country. >> senator mazie hirono thank
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you for being with us. >> aloha. >> aloha. after the break, turning to the political futures of two democrats. is hillary clinton getting closer to announcing a 2016 run, and chicago mayor rahm emanuel needs a runoff to keep his job. plus next hour eddie ray routh will spend the rest of his life behind bars for the murders of chris kyle and chad littlefield. we'll hear more from chad's parents and talk to a legal analyst about the verdict. right back from florida international university. good job! still running in the morning? yeah. getting your vegetables every day? when i can. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. two full servings of vegetables for only 50 delicious calories. if you're running a business legalzoom has your back. over the last 10 years we've helped one million business owners get started. visit legalzoom today for the legal help you need to start and run your business. legalzoom. legal help is here.
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paid $300,000 according to the"the washington post". some are skeptical how liberal a campaign by clinton would be. senator liz wethelizabeth warren with senator al sharpton on msnbc. >> what i want to see, i want to hear what she wants to run on and what shez wants to do. that's what campaigns are supposed to be about. >> msnbc's alex wald at the speech. gotten up early in san francisco and mark murray political eder from d.c. thank you both for being with me and alex clinton struck a tone. might have been because she was speaking to a room full of women, but she's not going to run as any other candidate, but as a woman, did you get that sense as well? >> absolutely. she chose this as her first speech in the u.s. of 2014 to a room of 5,000 women in silicon valley. she talked how women's issues
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are the great unfinished business of the 21 it is century, described the locker room mentality in a lot of places in the tech world how women are often not welcome. this is a marked change from 2008 when she was advised to not emphasize her gender to emphasize strength and experience and one that is genuine. issues she's talked about for decades and strategic. i talked to a democratic strategist who worked on her 2008 campaign if she can make in-roadsry married women, the kinds of women at this event yesterday, professional women, the math becomes pretty difficult for republicans in 2016. this is a key demographic group and could be her secret weapon in a presidential run. >> and mark what's it going to take to satisfy folks like elizabeth warren about a clinton campaign? >> well we heard from elizabeth warren in the clip you played she's staying look i want to hear what hillary clinton has to say. i don't think anyone believes elizabeth war been make a president's bid. it she was, she'd be hiring
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people forming a committee as we've seen from others. what elizabeth warren is trying to do influence within the democratic party holding out a slim chance she might end up doing it it's to be able to have her say and influence within the democratic party and on 2016 and jose it's worth noting on many public policy issues and whether it's on president obama's immigration executive actions, whether on nsa or net knew trait, hillary clinton hugged president obama in a lot of ways the best route for hillary clinton to avoid a primary among democrats supporting what president obama is supporting, unlikely you'll see a serious challenge from liz weth warren or elizabeth warren or the likes. >> and this was rebuke to rahm emanuel. a weak field he was running against. he was the best financed best known person. was unable to get across that
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50% threshold. it's very possible according to the math he could end up winning the april runoff. jose, what essentially rahm emanuel doing, running against himself. got turned into a referendum against him. he is he's been kind of unpopular the last four years in chicago and last night's election results bore that out. >> and thank you so much for being with me. always a pleasure to see you both. appreciate it. >> thanks. coming up live from florida international university, the site of our exclusive town hall with president obama tonight. i'll be joined by two dreamers whose personal stories have helped shed light on the human side of the immigration debate. what do they want to ask the president? that's next here on "the rundown." [ female announcer ] we help make secure financial tomorrows a reality for over 19 million people. [ susan ] my promotion allowed me to start investing for my retirement. transamerica made it easy. [ female announcer ] everyone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real. transamerica.
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under way now at florida international university in south florida for our exclusive town hall on immigration with president obama. the event comes at a key moment with a federal judge in texas recently blocking the president's executive action on immigration, the justice department asked that judge to lift his own ruling and request that he make decision by today. joining me now, national director of dream action coalition, and dreamer gabby who led a 1500 mile march from miami to d.c. in 2010 to promote the dream act. ladies, thank you both for being with me. >> thank you for having us. >> gabby, i want to start with you. you went to fiu? you lived in miami, that's right, you led a group of students from fiu, miami-dade and south florida up to d.c. at a time when it wasn't easy to do it. never easy. what would you like to hear the president say tonight? >> really i think one of the things we did on the walk was share a story, and tried to change this whole issue of
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criminality. they talk about us say families, not felons but is that what it is about? i know living here in south florida while having so many people from all over the world, more than anything cuban immigrants, i learned that this issue is something that is very complex. what i want to hear is dive into the issue of immigration, not a problem but human phenomenon that we have to deal with for a long time. >> you have been critical of democrats and republicans alike who you see are not supporting immigration reform. what would you like to see the president deal with tonight? >> i think for me it is a lot about really hearing the stories of folks that are going to be here. it has been really hard, at least for us when we were pushing the president to do this last year and for daca we asked them to hear the stories, talk
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about how it is effecting families on the ground. and it was really hard to do that. many times we could do it only with folks who had a parent who were undocumented but not necessarily people that were undocumented themselves. so it will be an interesting way. you know, it will be interesting to see what's going to happen. >> it is so difficult for a lot of people. i guess if you're not part of this community you don't really understand or sense the level of fear there is among millions 11 million plus people who see uncertainty as the only status quo. how do you deal with that fear and how do we express that to people who maybe think this is not me this is not my reality, not my world. we talked to diana while ago, so many people say to me to you, to you, get out of here go back to the country you came from et cetera. how is it that you can convey
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this fear and the feelings that a lot of folks that weren't born here but are here feel about this country? >> well i think for me one of the things i tried to come at is meet people where they're at and explain to them that we love this country, that we want to belong, and that we want to come right with the law. we want to be able to do something. we don't like living in fear not knowing what we are going to do, if we are going to be able to drive without a license. we don't like that. one of the things that people need to understand it is not that we don't want to become citizens, it is just that there's more life. a lot of times, make the line. there's no line. we want to make something and get right with the law. >> i think it is a lot of hearing the stories and seeing the human face of the reality, right. when you don't see the human face many times you become a number and in the past that number has been you know this many undocumented people live in
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the country, but who are they giving us a human aspect many times can change a lot of hearts and minds. >> erica, gabby, thank you both for being here. so looking forward to seeing you tonight at the town hall meeting with the president. he is going to have the opportunity to hear many voices many perspectives many questions. i am glad that he is here to answer it. thank you so much. appreciate you being with me. coming up as we take the turn on "the rundown," a lot more from fiu. but this morning gets going on capitol hill. we expect to hear from house speaker john boehner when he comes out of his conference meeting. also the house judiciary committee is taking up immigration action house democrats are expected to discuss this issue. we are going to have it all for you next hour on "the rundown" from fiu, florida international university. toenail fungus? don't hide it... tackle it with fda-approved jublia! jublia is a prescription medicine proven to treat toenail fungus. use jublia as instructed by your doctor.
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welcome back to the campus of florida international university. a big day for us on "the rundown." a few hours from now, i am hosting a town hall with president obama to talk about immigration. it couldn't come at a more important time. republicans threaten a partial government shutdown over the president's executive actions. speaker boehner may be the key to whether that happens. he is due to speak any minute now. as a matter of fact, when we do see him appear on the podium we are going to go to him. these are very important moments. what are they going to do to avert a shutdown of department of homeland security, a shutdown that would start friday. the question is whether he will go along with mitch mcconnell's new plan to pass a dhs funding bell separate from immigration bill or will he side with house conservatives that want him to hold the line. less than an hour ago, homeland security secretary jeh johnson warned congress not to let that friday deadline expire. >> in these challenging times right now, it is even absurd to be talking about this.
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the american people should be very concerned that homeland security of this nation could shut down friday at midnight. >> we will hear from democrats on this issue in 30 minutes, and second johnson speaking again around 2:00 eastern time. right now, i want to bring in nbc's kelly o'donnell on capitol hill and amanda sakuma on the set in south florida. good morning. kelly, start with you. any hints what we might hear from speaker boehner any minute? >> reporter: this is a blinking contest of the highest order, jose. speaker john boehner has been saying consistently that the house has passed funding that would keep the department open through the year and of course it does include changes to the immigration executive orders and policies of the president, so he is saying the senate must move first. that's been a consistent message. now with the clock ticking down, is he likely to change that?
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at the same time, we've got senate democrats led by harry reid, they don't want to take that bill from mcconnell until they know what speaker boehner will do. what mcconnell offered is a two step approach. fund the department through the fiscal year that takes us to october 1st. that makes most people happy. then a second vote which would address concerns of conservatives that say the president has overreached, but it is not a full roll back like we saw in the house bill. it is a more narrow focus on just deportations. it would leave dreamers intact rules related to them. that's one of the changes that would be more appealing to some of the more mainstream republicans in the senate who say let's get this done. but the question is what can house speaker john boehner do? he is in a meeting with his conference now. the most vocal members don't want to see him give an inch to the senate because even though senate majority leader of last
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year harry reid had so much power, now in the minority harry reid still seems to be calling some of the shots, trying to make the speaker promise he can deliver. that's something we have watched over time jose difficult for the speaker to be able to promise what his conference will do. that's why his remarks coming up are so important. jose? >> we will be going live to them when they do happen. amanda, does the fact that mcconnell is willing to put up a clean bill represent a victory for the white house? >> i don't think it is time for the white house to take a victory lap quite yet. as kelly outlined though senator mcconnell came out and said he is willing to issue a clean bill that doesn't necessarily mean democrats or even congressional republicans for that matter will take up the deal. politically, this could be damaging for the republican party. you know after the terror attacks abroad after growing concerns with isis the idea of
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jeopardizing department of homeland security for political reasons to bring down immigration actions could become a queasy option for republicans. >> that's what the white house and jeh johnson has been saying. the other issue is if you have this clean bill the senate republican senate a clean bill as kelly o was saying you move the immigration issue until a future date could that you think get enough support among democrats and republicans? >> i believe democrats are waiting for speaker boehner to make the first move really elements of his far right conservative elements of the caucus could potentially sink the whole plan and the clock is ticking until friday. >> amanda good to see you. kelly, thank you for being with me. appreciate you both being with me this morning. >> great looking set, jose. >> thank you. what was that kelly? >> great looking set you have for the town hall today. >> yeah. look at that. i will show you the graphic.
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look at the wide shot. can we show the set we built here at florida international university? these are all chairs that will be filled you'll see it at 8:00 tonight. take a look. look at all of the cameras we have here. how many cameras? >> five. >> like 20. only five working now, raul won't exaggerate things but it looks beautiful. in just a couple hours right there on that stage we are going to be speaking with president obama. these chairs will be filled with all kinds of people with all kinds of opinions and all kinds of questions. we've also been asking you to send in your questions. what would you like to ask the president about immigration? show that graphic again, if we could. it's got the hash tag you can use to ask your questions tonight at the town hall you're going to be seeing on msnbc. you can send us your questions,
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comments through social media. take a look at that. 8:00. by the way, 8:00 p.m. eastern time here on msnbc. if you want to watch it in spanish or really would like to watch it in two languages. watch on telemundo at 7:00 p.m. and msnbc at 8:00 p.m. three hours u that's how long it took a texas jury to find eddie ray routh guilty of the deaths of chris kyle and chad littlefield. routh will spend the rest of his life in prison without possibility of parole sentence littlefield's mother applauded. >> we just want to say that we've waited two years for god to get justice for us on behalf of our son, and as always god has proved to be faithful and we are so thrilled that we have the
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verdict that we have tonight. >> joining me now, legal analyst lisa green. good morning. >> good morning. >> three hours seems like a fast turnaround for deliberations. >> it included a dinner break, they served justice swiftly. in the end, the defense had a high burden to meet in attempting to persuade the jurors that routh was insane for the purposes of texas law, meaning he didn't know what he did was wrong. prosecution did a skillful job of piecing together an alternative narrative, led to the conviction so quickly last night. >> yeah. what role do you think publicity from the movie "american sniper" or the book play in a case like this? >> it is really extraordinary to have the academy awards sunday night with a movie nominated for several awards and jurors back in court days later to determine this man's fate.
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i have to tell you, even if the victims were anonymous do gooders, under the law the defendant had a tough road to hoe to prove insanity under texas law. while the movie may have had some influence on jurors who promised to be objective, you can look at this case technically legally and see how the same outcome might have happened. >> the defense had a very tough case and as you said this was a very big mountain to climb for the defense. >> it was. and you may remember the testimony of routh's family members who talked about their relative coming back from service and descending into severe mental illness, and that is all powerful testimony, and yet even if true if at the moment of the murders he understood what he was doing and the prosecution was able to extract suggestions from his ownbyown
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own behavior the testimony he gave when stopped by cops some statements he made in prison all of which seem to suggest that perhaps he knew what he was doing, maybe he was angry, and the jurors apparently found that much more powerful than the argument about mental illness. >> lisa green, thank you for being with me. pleasure to speak with you. >> pleasure. turning now to the winter that doesn't want to quit let's look at the photos coming to us from i-95 between newport and bangor maine. a pileup of more than 20 vehicles. six people were hurt. it happened during heavy snow also involved a school bus and tractor-trailer. a 30 mile stretch of highway is closed. meanwhile, the south is bracing for another snowstorm today. georgia's governor declared a state of emergency to begin at 2:00 p.m. eastern time. gabe gutierrez in marietta, georgia with more. gabe? >> reporter: jose good morning. crews will be spreading this
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gravel throughout metro atlanta, trying to treat roads, prevent icy conditions. local officials are hoping to avoid what happened after last year's ice storm where drivers were stranded in cars for hours and children were forced to sleep in their schools overnight. winter storm warning just went into effect a few minutes ago here in north georgia. mayor kasim reed scheduled to hold a news conference in the hour. and georgia governor nathan deal having his own news conference at noon to talk about the state's preparedness level. this is a massive storm system that is hitting much of the south. we have seen snow in texas already today. we expect problems in alabama and mississippi as well as tennessee, north carolina is expecting to get hit hard with several inches of snow. here in georgia, many schools are closed for the day. the governor has issued a state of emergency that goes into effect at 2:00. people here are just hoping this
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doesn't turn into a situation like last year. in the northern suburbs of atlanta, two to four inches of snow expected, even more in the north georgia mountains. jose, back to you. >> gabe gutierrez, thank you so much. coming up on the second hour of "the rundown" live from florida international university in south florida, congressional showdown over immigration comes front and center this hour. the gop conference and house speaker john boehner are holding a news conference. later house democrats will sound off in response. all of this ahead of my exclusive town hall with president obama tonight at 8:00 p.m. just in case you haven't heard, telling you for the first time 8:00 p.m. eastern time 7:00 central. watch it at 7:00 in spanish on telemundo. first, a town hall throw back. audience member gave president obama an earful at a cnbc town hall meeting in 2010 becoming the face of the president's problem at the time the gap between promises and reality. >> i am one of your middle class
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we are back from florida international university in south florida where i will be sitting down with president obama in a couple of hours for our exclusive town hall on the president's immigration actions. house speaker john boehner and the gop conference are holding a
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news conference right now. let's listen in. >> over a bill that should have been debated and passed so until the senate does something, we are in a wait and see mode. >> obviously you know the way the caucus feels. are you concerned about rebellion? >> i am waiting for the senate to pass a bill. our staff talked back and forth, but listen senator mcconnell has a big job to do, so do i. >> did you talk to him ahead of this important deadline? >> our staffs have been talking back and forth. end of the day, the senate has to act, and i made it clear over the past couple weeks, we are waiting for the senate to act. >> what do you think on the merits of the plan what did you think about it? >> i am waiting for the senate to pass a bill. there's a lot, i don't know what the senate is capable of passing, until i see what they're going to pass no decision has been made on the house side. >> is congress going to avoid a shut down? >> i am waiting for the senate to act. the house passed a bill to fund
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the department. time for the senate to do their job. thanks, everybody. >> got a good indication he is waiting for the senate to act on the dhs bill. any situation about funding dhs runs out friday he is saying it has to come out of the senate first. bring in congressman bill flores, good to see you. thanks for being with me. >> good morning, great to be on "the rundown" with you today. >> thanks, let's talk about this. homeland security funding runs out in less than three days you heard speaker boehner say we have to wait for the senate. there's been no direct communication between the speaker and leader of the majority in the senate. what do you think is going to happen and what needs to happen before friday? >> well i'm not sure what's going to happen i tell you what i think needs to happen that is senate democrats need to uphold the oath of office they took to protect the constitution. article one of the constitution says the power to create law
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resides in the congress not in the white house, and so if the senate democrats were keenly interested in protecting the constitution, they would do the right thing and vote on the bill we sent a few weeks ago. >> let's say they decide senate decides what mcconnell is saying today and overnight is a possibility of a clean bill on homeland security department, and then afterwards a bill to deal with the president's executive action there are two different possibilities, separating one from the other, and that way you get past friday at midnight and thousands of men and women aren't going to have to go to work for dhs without getting paid. >> again, i think that issue resides fully in the hands of senate democrats who have stalled the process. as soon as the senate democrats do what they have been hired to do paid by the taxpayers to do vote on a bill the house passed
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then we can have the conceptual discussion. until then i don't think there's need for that. when you talk to the president in a few hours, the question i would have is this and here is where we are. i have my case load in my district in texas has gone up from folks who have applied to be legal residents and their applications have been put to the back of the line because the resources are being used for the president's unlawful amnesty action. how is that fair to these folks doing the right thing? the other thing i would ask him is this. look, mr. president, i've got workers throughout my district that are concerned they're going to lose their job to somebody who suddenly gets amnesty under the president's unlawful amnesty program. how is that fair to hard working american families that are struggling paycheck to paycheck? those are things the president needs to be asked. at the same time the president needs to be encouraged to tell senate democrats to do their job. >> now congressman, there are a
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lot of issues you bring up the issue of legal versus undocumented and the back line right now there isn't anything that shows any real path to legalization permanent. so anything the president has even suggested or you find unconstitutional, there's been nothing to state that. this is a temporary issue to deal with something that is happening day-in and day-out. it happens in your district and throughout the country. there are a lot of people that have u.s. born children that have been here a long time and find that no one really cares about their situation. don't you think that's important to be discussing as well as people dealing with this problem from a legal perspective? >> absolutely. i think it is an important issue to be dealt with. it is an issue for congress to deal with not the president. and i think the president -- >> nobody in congress does anything. >> that's not true. the problem is the president's unlawful actions have basically been to put a stick in the eye of congress and say i am going
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to do whatever i want to irrespective of what the constitution says his limited authority is. he is the person single-handedly responsible for holding up any discussion about immigration reform so i lay the blame purely at the steps of the white house because of the stick that he has put in the eye of congress, how he has ignored the constitution. so if he really wanted to do this right, he would get in his car, come down to capitol hill and we could sit down and have the conversation, but he has to stop the unlawful action first. >> congressman, do you believe that if the president had not taken these executive actions there would be a discussion about immigration reform on the house of representatives, something that didn't happen in 2014 didn't happen in 2013 didn't happen in 2012 didn't happen in 2011 back and back and back? >> yes, sir, i do. would it be an easy discussion no, sir, i am not trying to minimize how difficult it would be. we would have that discussion. the problem is the president's action hurt this. going back to the president's
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action, all three branches of government believe what the president did was wrong. the president 22 times said he didn't have the authority to do what he has done. the courts agreed the president doesn't have the authority. congress, we in the house said he doesn't have the authority, including eight senate democrats who said he did the wrong thing when he did this. for once all three parts, all three parts of the constitutional form of our government believe the president's activities were wrong. >> and we are going to see now, as you point out, the federal judge in texas said it was wrong, it is probably going to go to the court in new orleans, then from there it will probably get to higher courts. we will see how it turns out. congressman bill flores, thanks for being with me. pleasure to have you. >> jose great to be with you today. up next, zoom through some of today's other top stories. check out this. this is from the international space station. a u.s. spacewalk currently under way. where are they? on the top left, center of the
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screen. we have better lights down here at fiu for the town hall than they have there. again, they're in space, we are in the middle of a building. waiting on house democrats expected to speak on immigration minutes from now. we are going to be back from florida international university in seconds.
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train plowed into a pickup hauling a trailer at a rail crossing in oxnard. the truck driver then drove away from the scene, was arrested a mile and a half away. his attorney says it was a terrible accident and the driver left the scene to get help. chicago mayor rahm emanuel failed to get majority vote in his bid for a second term. a last minute visit from president obama not enough to get more than 50% of the vote to avoid runoff election. he faces off with cook county commissioner garcia in a runoff election on the 7th of april. a live look on capitol hill and the house judiciary committee. right now, weighing the constitutionality of the president's executive action on immigration. is it legal? we are going to debate that. and house democrats are about to speak live on immigration. we are keeping an eye on that. first, another question at the center of the debate that i asked the president about in december. >> let's talk about fear for a
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fund the department of homeland security and stop the president's overreach on immigration, and we are waiting for the senate to do their job. senate democrats have stood in the way now for three weeks over a bill that should have been debated and passed so until the senate does something, we are in a wait and see mode. >> the bottom line here is even though senate majority leader mitch mcconnell proposes a clean dhs funding bill boehner is sticking with his original bill that includes decision to derail the president's actions on immigration. a senior congressional reporter is with me pleasure to see you again. >> great to be here. >> what do you make of speaker boehner's decision today? >> he really wants to distance himself from the senate strategy. what mcconnell is proposing is a clean dhs bill that will not touch the president's executive actions, and that is politically toxic within his conference within boehner's conference.
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and he wants to tell his members that he is not part of that strategy. this is a senate strategy. they're doing things on their own. when the senate acts they'll decide what to do. it seems to me boehner is essentially going to let himself get jammed by the senate and say by friday they have no other choice but to pass a senate clean dhs bill. indications are that the senate would eventually approve a clean bill in the next couple days as long as republicans get a separate vote targeting the president's executive actions on immigration that's not tied to the funding process. >> cr is not part of the discussion now, it would be -- seems as though it is this clean bill with a separate immigration bill or nothing? >> i think the cr is certainly a possibility. boehner has to assess what happens in the senate. there are some folks on the republican side in the house that prefer a cr because they can continue to fight the
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president on a month by month basis, if they fund the department on a couple of months cr they can go back pressure the president again on immigration, particularly with the court battle separate court battle with the president if it doesn't go as expected. boehner will have pressure to do that. if boehner can't get votes for a clean bill in the house, they may ultimately fall back on a stop gap spending bill. that's certainly a fall back position. things are very fluid right now. they almost change hour by hour. right now, the betting is that probably there will be some resolution to avert a shutdown in the coming days. >> read part of what was in your recent article, several house republicans and top aides told politico a misstep by boehner in this skirmish could i am peril his speaker ship. is that where things are? >> boehner is certainly aware of
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pressure from his right flank, which is why he has really dug in said the senate has to do something. we have acted. this is a very very emotional issue within the house republican conference. people want to show want the speaker, want republican leadership to fight very hard for this position. and remember, the speaker lost 25 votes for speakership. this is the most in 100 years, you hear grumbling on the far right of the conference and boehner knows that he knows that grumbling exists and he is proceeding cautiously now. that's why he doesn't want to get ahead of what the senate will do. ultimately he may be forced by pressure by the virtue of not wanting to shutdown department of homeland security to do something with something the senate passed to alleviate concerns on the right flank saying he pushed hard this is
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all he can do. >> pleasure to see you. >> thanks jose. joining me former white house director of hispanic media and republican strategist. thank you both for being with me. a little debate we are going to have this morning. i want to start with you. the president is trying to spend time reaching the hispanic community. why hasn't he spent this much more time reaching out to congress with so much at stake this week? >> jose you and i talked about doing this type of event three years ago. it is great it is finally coming together. it is not just about talking to the latino community, it is about talk to go the american people. you heard something interesting, that speaker boehner is concerned about his speakership. he is not worried about the country, what's going to move us forward, what's going to be best for the economy, for national security. he is worried about his speakership, let's be clear. this should not be a partisan issue. the reality is that there are a lot of republicans in law enforcement, in clergy in
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elected office locally, mayors folks who recognize that the immigration issue needs to be addressed, needs to be resolved. we have seen problems in states like georgia with crops withering on the field because of anti-immigrant zeal that's not constructive. the reality is small minority is blocking it and speaker boehner needs to step up do what's right for the country. >> go ahead. >> well number one, let me tell you, notice how luis never mentions rule of law and the president exceeding his authority. that's what's at play. that's what the district court decided in texas. ultimately will be affirmed on appeal. no one wants to talk boy the rule of law. that's important. obviously for the imperial presidency of richard nixon, that's all they wanted to talk about. luis didn't answer the question about the president's pandering. why isn't the president up there negotiating? it is a bipartisan issue, luis
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we have bipartisan issues bipartisan support for the republican position that this president has exceeded his authority. both in the house and senate. you have eight senate democrats at least that believe the president exceeded his authority and are against the executive order. what the president doesn't want and democrats don't want is democrats to go on the record and embarrass the administration with a majority of senate and house saying the president has acted illegally. >> going back a half century that have done the same action. >> go back to 2015 there were immigration attempts by both republicans and democrats in the past. but what can we expect for example, luis what do you think that is going to happen going forward. there is a lot of fear. i think you can agree on the fact a lot of people don't have documents, have u.s. born children that are going through a lot of fear as they see uncertainty about their future. luis what do you think the
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future holds for immigration reform and specifically for these people that live in fear on a daily basis. >> i think there's fear on both sides. we have to acknowledge that. fear that's causing the small minority to block any progress on immigration needs to recognize that demographic change they're worried about is already taking place. there are 54 million u.s. hispanics. only a population of 10 million undocumented immigrants. they try to conflate this. and the reality, it is not. most are u.s. citizens legal permanent residents, born here. you have one out of every four kids in k through 12 hispanic. this demographic change is happening. we have to address this fear that america is built on diversity, built on the strength of different people that came here to build a strong country. i hope the president touches on that tonight. in terms of the other community, i think they have to recognize that this is a process that's going to be hard fought but the reality is that the president is going to win on this one because
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he is following the precedent set by many other presidents who have done the same thing. and let's remember, the reason he had to do this something he didn't want to do is because congress didn't do their job, abdicated responsibility. >> i will give you wrap up time quickly. >> quickly on this jose you know, america is founded on the principle rule of law, which this constitutional lawyer president of ours seems to have conveniently forgot although he told you and others 22 times he didn't have the authority, now he conveniently has it. i think the key here is the following. the republican party won majority in both chambers of congress, and the president took the executive action to impede the congress from really doing immigration reform. had he not taken this action we as republicans would be on the hook for the next two years to actually produce an immigration bill, to actually deliver for the american people. instead, the president --
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>> tell you what gentlemen, this conversation as i say when i have the pleasure of having you both on the program, this conversation is going to continue. thank you both for being here. >> thank you. good luck tonight. >> thank you very much. we are here at florida international university in south florida for that exclusive town hall on immigration with president barack obama. i want to go beyond politics now and talk about the human side of the immigration story with one of the people that will be in the audience good friend immigration attorney thank you for being with me. >> thank you. >> you see people that are directly impacted by this every single day. >> every day. >> what is it that those people that you serve want to hear from the president tonight. >> they want to hear two things. they want to hear that their fears are heard. if they apply, they are not turning themselves into
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immigration. they want to hear when is this going to start. when can we have some relief. we have strong roots in this country and we want to stay we want to do it the right way, when can this start. >> you say they want to do it the right way. a lot of folks say these are people that have broken the law. the president is dealing with them and not dealing with the broken immigration system of people who are here legally, trying to get their system done the legal way. >> let me 30 years in the business jose. if i am a u.s. citizen, have a child over 21 to get in line, it is 20 to 22 years to get a green card. i am not saying they should get in line but the idea of getting in line is a fallacy, because this isn't a line it is a humongous line. >> and they don't deal with it. republicans or democrats aren't talking about this. >> they're not doing their job as far as i am concerned, we have a broken immigration system both sides, we need to fix it.
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this is the foundation of this country. and the laws need to be amended to mirror the problems we have now. >> and meanwhile, we have in the latino community we talk about this all of the time we have people in the latino community taking advantage of those people exploiting these people that have hopes, dreams aspirations, many have u.s. born children. they're taking advantage by ripping them off. >> yes. this has been happening since i started practicing law, and it continues. i notice the state bar and different consumer affair organizations are taking -- when they're taking hands on the situation, and going after perpetrators that commit fraud. >> what are they saying? >> notary publics in latin america, that's an attorney at law, not here in the united states they believe they can help them unfortunately they can't. they're promising things that don't exist, filling out forms inadequately, filling out forms that many times turn into a problem in the end of a
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deportation hearing when the people have the right to immigrate. >> pleasure to see you. see you tonight. you'll be able to see at 8:00 eastern. up next add new hampshire to the list of states recently visited by joe biden. he is about to speak in concorde regarding immigration policies. is there more to this? the veep has recently visited iowa south carolina as well. on the other side 2016 hopefuls head to c pac that gets under way in maryland. that and more next on "the rundown" from fiu. and this is a soda a day for a year. over an average adult lifetime that's 221,314 cubes of sugar. but you can help change that with a simple choice. drink more water. filtered by brita. ♪ and introducing our new advanced filter,
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and new hampshire can always have dual purposes. also today, the annual cpac gathering begins. at least ten potential 2016 gop candidates will speak to the conference. and this morning, new poll numbers from iowa and the leader might surprise you. joining me now from the white house, our political correspondent kasie hunt in the d.c. bureau, and benjy sar did i know. is he keeping options open or do you get the sense there's operation building. >> reporter: it is tricky to go to iowa by accident jose. they say the trips are official business, just the vice president going to promote policies of the administration as you note. but i don't think that we are at a stage biden is building an operation behind the scenes but it is clear that he doesn't want to be written out of the
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conversation. at this point, the nomination seems to be so locked up for hillary clinton, but biden has been on the national stage for the democratic party for a really long time and doesn't want to be seen as somebody who isn't a player isn't part of the conversation. in the event that clinton stumbles badly out of the gate, then well, you never know he has done a little ground work. >> i guess if he decides to run, main difference he will have with hillary clinton is that for the past four years he has been out promoting the president's policies and clinton left the administration to give herself some distance. is that a plus or minus for him? >> both biden and clinton have long histories that are independent of the obama administration. yes, hillary left the obama administration part way through, but the reality is that each of them would have their own independent records to run on. also no matter what the next election will be at least in part about the obama administration and their
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policies. whether your name is hillary clinton or joe biden, you're going to have to answer for a lot of what this president has been doing at the white house. >> and let's look at the new numbers from iowa. scott walker running away with this has 25%. rand paul in second jeb bush all the way down in fifth with 10%. what do you make of the numbers? >> well it really shows the challenge that jeb bush has here. a lot of republicans have been sort of looking at iowa nervously on his behalf tends to be socially conservative. a lot of voters may be concerned about support for immigration reform and common core but it is very early. part of it reflects that scott walker has shown up. the reason he is surging in polls, he delivered a well received speech at the iowa freedom summit an event jeb bush didn't attend. bush will make appearances in iowa himself, has yet to start. see how things shake up once he puts in the time. >> and you write this morning not to write off senator marco
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rubio. he spent the last couple days in new hampshire. what did you see there? >> well marco rubio has been sidelined in the discussion. one, support for comprehensive immigration reform and subsequent decision to backtrack on it. two, jeb bush's arrival, who takes a lot of florida supporters with him, a lot of establishment support with him, doesn't leave him a lot of space. in new hampshire, rubio got grilled on immigration hard from the left and right alike. a lot of people there are not happy with his position. at the same time, you can't write him off. if jeb bush who is no sure thing struggles, there's going to be pressure to find someone to unite the more conservative and establishment sides. rubio is a polished talented candidate that represents a young contrast to hillary clinton. it will be tempting to donors to look to him if jeb bush struggles. >> benji sarlin kasie hunt great to see you. up next florida international university the site of the town hall with
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president obama today. to honor the big event, five things fiu coming up. first, we heard from lawmakers on the house judiciary committee about who is dropping the ball on immigration reform. >> instead of doing that work we are holding hearing and hearing to vilify the president for taking important, common sense steps to prioritize deportation of felons before families. >> telling entire classes of millions of unlawful aliens they face no possibility of being removed is not prosecutorial discretion, it is simply an ab did i indication of executive branch's responsibility to enforce the laws. that's it. good job. nice coating. and get this one next. whoa! what are you guys doing? making sure nothing sticks. otherwise, we gotta scrub all this stuff off. huh, what?
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through the "the rundown," coming to you live from the campus of florida international university in miami. it is the site of our exclusive town hall with president obama later today. and the inspiration for five things fiu. number one, the numbers. there are 54,000 students enrolled at the university making it the fourth largest public university in the country. fiu also awards the most bachelors and masters degrees to hispanics. number two, call him professor. some may have a different idea of teacher. senator marco rubio lectures on political science monday and friday. when the senate is typically off. began teaching after leaving state legislature in 2008. number three. president obama isn't the only world leader or president to visit here. bill clinton was here just before the 2012 election to rally for his fellow democrat. number four. a holy visit. the 14th dolly lamb a addressed faculty guests in 1999 here part of a swing across south
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florida to bring together leaders of different faiths. he donated $100,000 to supported religious studies department and received an honorary doctorate in did i vin tee. number five. very personal one for me. family ties. there i am with my dad. the law school main building at fiu is named after my late father. my grand father's name also that name. it was dedicate in 2007 by supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg. that wraps up "the rundown" on msnbc. thank you for the privilege of your time. in case i haven't told you, please don't miss tonight's town hall with president obama. you can see it at 8:00 eastern time on msnbc, 7:00 on telemundo. "newsnation" with tamron hall is next. i'll see you. sfx: opening chimes sfx: ambient park noise, crane engine, music begins.
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good morning, everyone. i'm tamron hall. this is "newsnation." developing now, family members and jurors in the "american sniper" trial are speaking out this morning reacting to the verdict that came so quickly after deliberations started. the jury found routh guilty of capital murder last night after less than three hours, and he was immediately sentenced to life in prison without parole. his attorneys say they will appeal in an exclusive interview on "today." chad littlefield's brother, one of routh's teachers in high school said he did not believe the defense claim that routh was insane at the time of the killings. >> it was all an act, that's just the way he was. he never grew up. he was still opposite defiant,

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