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nomination would be scheduled for a floor vote this week. so much for that. political reports this afternoon that there will be no vote on the new attorney general this week. senate republicans sometime, some other time, some time when the senate has time for little chores like hiring a chief law enforcement. meanwhile, the current occupant says he will stay until the next nomination is confirmed. the crazy is less powerful than the lazy or whatever it is that's keeping them from voting on loretta lynch. tick tock. we do have that breaking news of hillary clinton's e-mails at the state department. we've developed a bit more on it that we're going to get into. >> thanks. >> thanks, rachel. dick cheney actually showed up on capitol hill to address republicans, also the islamic state reportedly threatens
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getter's co-founder. and the "new york times" has breaking news tonight about hillary clinton's use of personal e-mail when she was secretary of state. >> do you like your job? >> most days. friday wasn't a whole lot of fun, but most days. >> speaker boehner, after losing control of his caucus is embarrassing. >> lawmakers are facing a new friday deadline. >> what the house should do is exactly what the senate did. >> do they have a plan that would have gotten what they wanted, this small group that you say basically undermined your efforts? >> not that i know of. >> iraqi forces launched a new offensive to retake saddam hussein's hometown from isis. >> looks like your ride's here. you be careful, okay? >> dad, it's just isis. [ laughter ] >> the assassination of russian opposition leader, boris nemtsov.
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>> he was skilled because of his political activities, and he was killed because he was nemtsov. >> about 22 seconds after jones makes the jump, something goes wrong in midair. the 22-year-old who has epilepsy says he blacked out. >> you may not have heard, see, i'll be speaking in congress tomorrow. >> as a matter of policy, we think it's a mistake. >> never has so much been written about a speech that hasn't been given. ♪ ♪ earlier tonight, senate democrats blocked what is usually a routine procedural motion to enter into a conference with the house representatives over a bill. in this case, for the funding of the department of homeland security. but nothing, but nothing is routine in congress anymore. harry reid says democrats are blocking the conference because
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the only real difference between the bills is that the house bill nullifies president obama's executive actions on immigration, and the senate democrats want that provision simply stripped out of the house bill. in other words, for the democrats in the senate, there is nothing to negotiate in conference. >> i've been very clear for days now that we will not go to conference. the majority knows that. the speaker of the house knows that. senate democrats will not support going to conference because it will be counter-productive. >> the senate's refusal now to go to conference makes it at least theoretically possible for democrats in the house of representatives to employ an obscure house rule to force the senate bill to come to a vote in the house. republican congressman steve king of iowa who voted against both the short-term funding measures friday has introduced a
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resolution to block house democrats from using that rule. joining me now is beth fouhy and jeremy peters, and steve latourette. what happens next? >> well, it's really a matter of whether cooler heads prevail, but i don't think that's going to happen. as a republican, when they came back for the deadline of february 27, and this judge had given them a gift by staying the president's executive orders on immigration, they had won, you know. the homeland security bill was a bill written by republicans, funded by republicans. i really thought, my goodness, this is wonderful. can you declare victory, go home and move on to other things. cooler heads did not prevail,
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and you continue to have 50, 51, 52 republicans who, they don't have a plan b. in the clips introducing the show, the most telling was speaker boehner saying, do they have a plan? not that i'm aware of. they never have a plan b. they just know what they don't want. and that really isn't what happens when you're trying to governor the country. >> beth fouhy, isn't it john boehner who has to have a plan b? >> this is just crazy kabuki theater. >> i hate taking the suspense out of it. weave seen these plays run before. >> let's face it. republicans have marginalized themselves so much now that they are both the shutdown party and the party that opposes immigration. they are going on a suicide mission with this one. there was a great study called "states of change." it says by 2060, the majority of states are going to be majority
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minority. that means hispanic voters. and that means if republicans don't figure out a way to clean up their act with hispanic voters they're going to lose their relevance as a national party, and doing what they're doing around the president's executive action is not going to help them on that. >> jeremy peters, do you think the democrats will actually be able to use this rule to kind of pole vault the senate bill onto the house floor and get a vote on it? >> i think ultimately, the end result is a clean bill. i think that that is where republicans are starting to. come around and realize that at the end of the week they may not have another option. now whether there's another short-term funding bill that buys more time until john boehner and his lieutenants can get more republicans to come around, i don't know. i can almost predict with quite a bit of certainty that the end
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result will be a clean bill. the end result will also be a weakened speaker boehner. and i think that more than anything else right now is the goal of a lot of people yep side the conservative movement. they see a vulnerable speaker. somebody who's faced setback after setback. and right now a lot of them smell brood. it's not only harmful for boehner but mcconnell as well. over in the senate, he's the guy, remember, who said no more shutdowns. there won't be any more republican shutdowns in this new congress. now he has a bunch of stuff he wants to get to. he wants this week to get to a keystone veto override. he has to get to loretta lynch, the president's nominee for attorney general. and congress is also in the middle of trying to figure out what to do with this war resolution that president obama's asked for. so there are far more pressing matters that the congress right now could be focussing on, but they're not. >> let's listen to republican
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peter king who can't be outrepublicaned by anyone. let's listen to what he had to say about this. >> there's a wing within the congress which is absolutely irresponsible. they, they have no concept of reality. listen, i am as opposed to the president's immigration action as they are. but the fact is, it's essential that we fun the department of homeland security. >> steve latourette, what do the tea party types think when they hear him say that? >> they get mad, and he like i are squishers, traders, but peter and i, on this issue, we think alike. >> can i interrupt you for a second? >> sure. >> peter king's not a moderate. i'm not sure you fit the definition of moderate. what you are are people who are able to see realistically what the playing field will allow. that does not make you a moderate. that makes you someone who knows how to get from here to there. >> thank you for the compliment.
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one of my wife's favorite stories is when i was elected in 1994, another guy, who's very, very conservative. she used to say remember when we thought he was the conservative? he's like a moderate now. we come from the governing wing of the party. we think when you work for the government, govern is a big part of the word. he's in trouble, but once again they don't have a plan b. so you throw john boehner out, but who's going to be the speaker? they don't know, daniel webster? my favorite was the guy from florida, yahoo or yoho. he says yoho for yoho. is that what we want in this country? >> don't tempt us with such
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entertaining options. senator orrin hatch has a new name for this problematic wing. let's listen to what he's calling them now. >> we've got a small segment of our republicans, they're not really republicans. they're independents, really, who are so far to the right that they don't see anything good in working with people in the left at all. >> they're independents, beth, that's what they're dealing with. >> he says they don't want to work with anyone to the left. they don't want to work with anyone to the left of them. >> leftist peter king. >> they want to work with steven king, but not peter king. they don't know how to win. they won with a historic majority in november. they could do so much and be so productive. >> they had a huge victory with the court where they could have easily claimed. that doesn't, the court has stopped the executive action.
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therefore we're going to move forward on this bill. they had a perfect out. >> what's the expression. snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. they could have declared victory, gone home and moved on to more pressing issues. instead they have to reenforce this vision of themselves as being obstructive. >> that side that's trying to undermine john boehner, who would they suggest as a possible speaker if they could depose boehner? >> i think steve is absolutely right. they do not have a viable contender. daniel webster was their choice, you know, he didn't end up getting more than a handful of votes in january. so they don't, and this is a problem for the conservative movement right now. and i spent the afternoon talking to a lot of activists inside the movement, and they were expressing a lot of frustration right now that with regards to the dhs funding
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fight, they don't have a plan to move forward. and they think that's kind of problematic of the state of the movement in general right now. they know how to say no. they know how to oppose the president's agenda, but they don't have a way to articulate how they would govern. and this's a real problem, especially when you look at 2016. and it's also, interestingly enough, opened the door for a personality-driven movement, so you have people like donald trump and sarah palin who then fill that void, because it's not really a movement that has articulated a lot of ideas. >> so, steve, is the boehner move just to sit back and let the democrats use this rule to get a vote in the house on the senate bill? >> i don't know. i do know for a fact in full disclosure, john boehner's a good friend of mine, that he met with his most trusted members of the house for a long time friday afternoon. and they were attempting to come
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up with a strategy to deal with this. and against all of our advice, i advised him for a number of years, this same bunch advised him. we told hill, if you want to turn the corner here, you have to chop off a few heads, figuratively, not literally, and you've got to take no prisoners. and the example is that nancy pelosi wouldn't let this happen, and john shouldn't either. >> what tools does he have in what is the chopping off of heads? >> i don't think it's appropriate that after six members who voted against him on opening day have now been promoted to be sub committee chair men on committees. that does not send the right message. so i think stripping people of that sort of thing would send the right message, but promoting them for sticking their finger in your eye probably emboldens them. >> steve latourette gets the last word on this. thanks for joining us. beth, jeremy, hang around. we have more to cover about the
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we have a breaking news report from the "new york times" which we're just getting through right now, indicating that hillary clinton may have violated federal requirements that official correspondence be retained as part of the state department's records she used only personal e-mail when she was at the state department. she never had a state department e-mail address. that breaking news story is next. next. ♪♪ expected wait time: 55 minutes. your call is important to us. thank you for your patience. waiter! vo: in the nation, we know how it feels when you aren't treated like a priority.
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we have breaking news from the "new york times." the times has just posted a new report that says when hillary clinton was secretary of state she exclusively used a perm e-mail account for all of her government business and that that might have violated federal rules. the "times" reports that her aides did not preserve the e-mails on state department servers as required by the state department records act. she did not have a government e-mail address during the four years she was at the state department. this was discovered by the investigation into the benghazi attack. back with me is beth fouhy and jeremy peters. this is a rather startling development. we're just getting it from the "times" now. it is not unusual for people in hillary clinton's position to have a personal e-mail account,
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but according to everyone's understanding of it, it is only supposed to be used for government business in an emergency when, say, there was some problem in the state department's servers and they couldn't use that e-mail. what do you expect the reaction to be tomorrow on capitol hill about this? >> well, as you correctly pointed out, lawrence, it's not unusual for candidates, elected officials to have these personal e-mail accounts. what is unusual is for them to conduct all of their business on these personal e-mail accounts. now as a reporter who's filed public information requests for these types of correspondence before, you know, you would typically see that not all business is being conducted in the open like it should be. now, as my colleague, michael schmitt, who is a tenacious report, discovered, hillary clinton has opened herself up to a really big question here,
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which is how forthcoming is she willing to be. and this is an issue that kind of dogged her when she ran in 2008, that she was trying to keep things from getting out into the public. and i think for anyone who thinks that we've seen all there is to see about hillary clinton, that all of her dirty laundry has been aired, you know, they're realizing now that that's just not the case. >> beth, the "times" report indicates that under federal law, that officials are supposed to retain the papers so members of the government and media can find them. john kerry has used nothing but state department e-mail. there's another note in here that personal e-mails are not secure. senior officials should not be using them. and this is not a senior official at the environmental protection agency. this is the secretary of state,
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using a not-secure, commercial e-mail system. >> right. and as fabulous as the story is and incredible report being by the "new york times," i just have to think there's something more going on here. it raises so many questions. null one, where were the state department lawyers who allowed this to go forward? where were the people, top diplomats in other countries receiving these e-mails from hrc or something like this. there are so many unanswered questions about this. she a very secretive person. and yet she understands rules and protocol. and for her to just willingly violate it just to preserve some semblance of privacy just really makes no sense. she's got a big speech tomorrow night at the emily's list dinner. she's going to have to address this. >> i suspect she will not have any real addressing of it in
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that location. jeremy, the cia director in bill clinton's administration got into very serious trouble by having some of his cia information at a computer at home. but nothing like this where in effect all of the electronic communication that she was issuing on e-mail was sent out into a, to a, basically through a private company, to distribute. this is a stunning breach of security. >> right. and that's one of the things that my colleague michael schmitt raises in the story, that we don't know if the e-mail she was using, even though it was personal, was somehow encrypted. there are so many unanswered questions right here. and i think that this story's going to continue to play out for a few more days. >> well, if it's true that she never used a state department e-mail address, we have
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something that, at first read, has no conceivable rational explanation. what could it possibly be? >> you know what the other amazing thing about it, this was uncovered, basically, by the benghazi committee. and democrats and opponents about the benghazi committee have been saying they're wasting their time. this is just political, this is just redundant. and yet, we have an example of something very significant raised by this committee. so i think it emboldens republicans to pry away at her and see what else she's hiding. >> the "new york times" is on it, the media is going to be on it. it doesn't matter what the republican does at this point. thank you both for joining me tonight. >> thank you. coming up, the islamic state threatens the life of the founder and ceo of twitter and "saturday night live" could be next after their commercial parody about the islamic state this weekend.
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to life. it is unclear who wrote the post. twitter says that its security team is investigating the veracity of these threats. joining me now, evan coleman for flash point partners and herb greenberg. how seriously do you take this threat? >> this is not officially isis. it's isis supporters who speak in arabic. so the idea that there are going to be legions of supporters who take arms up on this will not do it unless they read up in the newspaper. some of the details are chilling. this group is not saying that isis is going to kill jack dorsey, it's calling for lone wolf attacks, in the spirit of "charlie hebdo."
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there's talk about attacking twitter employees when they exit a bar or something look that. and that's kind of scary. that's within the realm of somebody who's reeled in by isis propaganda and looking for celebrity status. it's an instantaneous celebrity status. you go after jack dorsey or his employees, and that's what we're worried about, that somebody will take advantage of this to get publicity for themselves because they see isis on tv. >> and this doesn't have to be someone who makes his way from syria or somewhere over there. it can be someone in the united states already. it takes exactly one to attack jack dorsey. what does a company like this do in a situation like this? >> well, i think, if you're twitter, and you have 3600 employees, you obviously have concern about those employees as any good company would do. but you have to continue to move on with your other business.
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you're trying to calm people down and remind them that you could walk outside anytime and something could happen unrelated to all this. but they got, i got to tell you something, they have much bigger things to worry about, from a business perspective -- >> oh, no, they don't. herb, that's cnbc tunnel vision. there's nothing more important to worry about than a death threat. nothing can happen in business that's worse than being assassinated. >> i get it, and i know where you're coming from. and obviously none of us want to be the focus of a death threat or something like that. it is chilling. it's horrible. it is. but you still have a business to run. this isn't the tunnel vision of cnbc. you have other things to do. you don't stop all of a sudden and say, guys, let's stop. let's run for cover. you have other things to do. you have to.
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>> evan, the, this company, as herb just said, 3600 employees, different campuses around the world. they are not secure at their perimeters necessarily the way a movie studio is. if you threaten the president of paramount you have to get him after he leaves the area. >> i think it's really the employees that i feel sorry for. you talk about the u.s. military and how isis is looking through facebook and linked in, and they're looking for profiles of u.s. military or saudi military, jordanian military and collecting this information and harvesting it, trying to come up with target lists, and i think it's very scary, and i understand the perspective of twitter employees that i didn't understand it was something i had to worry about by putting in my resume that i worked for twitter. >> where do we start saying, then, any company, so basically,
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they know, look, this group knows how to sort of strike fear into the hearts of everybody. they could systematically go around the united states and start targeting, whether it's facebook or ibm or google or anyone who dares get in their way. and i think you reach a point where that is real, but, again, there's the other side of the equation. and that is, there's still, you know, the world still goes on. >> looks like that's the way they're going to handle it so far. evan, quickly before we go. bill clinton's director of the cia, john deutsch was convicted of crimes and pardoned by president clinton for misusing classified information on his home computer. here is hillary clinton, using personal e-mail, for all of her state department e-mail communication, which must have included at some point classified information. this seems like an incredibly dangerous area for hillary
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clinton. >> i think what the problem here is, if she was using a service like gmail or yahoo, we know that governments like china have infiltrated these services, looking at the accounts of people who are dissidents or threats to them. they've also been looking at accounts of people who run major corporations and also american politicians. and i think the problem is, is that we don't know at this point what kind of encryption she might have used, trying to put encryption on private e-mail, because we do this, is not easy. it requires technical sophistication. who did that? who made sure that that registered up to the standards that we would have government e-mail. government e-mail's secured. it's quite secure. i don't think you can expect that from gmail or yahoo, and the former secretary of state has got to answer that question. what happened to that classified information. >> all right. we're going to break it right there. evan greenberg, thank you for
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well, it was bound to happen. the islamic state finally got the snl treatment on saturday night. ♪ ♪ >> well, this is it. you need any help with your bag? >> no, that's all right. i got it. >> how about some walking around money? >> dad, it's okay. >> okay. just make sure to -- >> call you when i get there? i know. >> yeah. you know, you can stay home, do another year of high school. >> very funny, dad. jokester. >> well, i'll see you at thanksgiving. >> yeah, i'll see you. hey, dad. >> yeah? >> thanks. >> you got it, kiddo.
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looks like your ride's here. [ laughter ] >> you be careful, okay? >> dad, it's just isis. [ laughter ] [ applause ] >> take care of her. >> death to america. [ screaming ] >> isis -- we'll take it from here, dad. >> joining us now, h.a. goodman, a columnist with the huffington post, and comedian negin farsad who co-produced the documentary, "the muslims are coming." >> first of all, was it funny?
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>> it was funny. and i actually thought it was great, there was a pointed satire on isis. and they did a great job. >> h.a. goodman? >> my huffington post article says it all. it was funny because mel brooks has similar type of comedy in the history of the world and "to be or not to be." second reason is because there's a one in 20 million chance of getting killed as an american in a terrorist attack. this was in the washington post. and the third reason is isis has two marketing departments. one is its own where it commits atrocities, and then videotapes the atrocity to frighten
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millions of people. and the other is fox news and bill o'reilly and sean hannity and all the people who tell you that you must be afraid of isis. the snl skit, they should go ahead and do that type of isis skit every single week. and i applaud them. i think every comedian should go ahead and have an isis routine, because you're not going to get your head cut off by isis. you have a better chance of getting hit by lightning. that's something that fox news and the people on the right won't tell you, because they want to send ground troops back to iraq. we already had two wars. we don't need another war, especially with a group that doesn't have a navy, nuclear weapons. they can't hurt us the way people on fox will try to tell people they can. so i think it's a great thing. i think more americans should poke fun at isis. i think that isis ultimately should become a punch line, and that will hurt recruiting.
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it will make us safer, at least because we're not going to be afraid of something that really can't hurt this country. it's really our reaction to isis and to terror that can hurt us. not the terrorists themselves. >> now evan coleman, clearly the islamic state can take a joke, right? there's nothing, come on. what's -- >> look, i'm sure that they find this terribly amusing. i take this in a slightly different way. i think this is poking fun at our counter message. anyone who looks at this and condemns snl for poking fun at this, i ask them, the fact that we haven't been able to develop a counter message to a group that thrives, its open policy is murder, rape, bigotry and racism, and we can't come up with a counter message for this. don't you think we deserve to get made fun of? i think so. >> the state department is doing a whole thing.
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but seriously, within the islamic state, what reaction are they going to have to this? >> they're going to find this to be a waste of time. they may find it amusing. they think it's funny how easy it is to recruit people, particularly young girls and lure them from the u.k. or the united states to iraq. they fight find this terribly amusing. the thing that's drawn the most amount of attention to the fact that this group is luring these girls, like pedophiles is an snl skit. shouldn't the self-righteousness have come from the fact that there are pedophiles in syria luring young girls to go there? >> elisabeth hasselbeck disagrees with you, disagrees with all of you. let's listen to you. >> i don't think there's anything funny about isis. >> i don't think it's funny. >> it's hard to watch.
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when you watch it time and time again, you think, really? how insensitive can you get? >> i actually think elisabeth hasselbeck is a jewel for isis right now. she has the same amount of outrage, and a lot of people on twitter have the same amount of outrage as they did of seeing an emulation of a human being. like we can't have the same level of outrage on these two things. snl was doing a parody, a comedy. and i think it's ridiculous to create this type of outrage. i think the outrage is proof positive that america needs to take a nice kick boxing class and really let that stress go. >> i'm going to defend every reaction. look, you know, and you can look at thing, you and i can watch something and say that's funny, and i say that's funny, you say that's not funny. what's funny is a completely different position. elisabeth hasselbeck and
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everyone else has a right to the it's not funny part. it's insensitive. i get what she's saying. >> your guest has a really good point. we have not created an appropriate counter narrative that deflates their ideology. and comedy's a really good route. we've tried the war thing. we've been variably successful at that. >> let's look at taran killam's tweet. clearly they asked not to be mentioned by name because they're a little worried. >> after what happened with "charlie hebdo," it makes perfect sense. i don't think they're going to be targeted by this. i think isis revels in this.
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in the nba player draft, the boston celtics was the first team to draft an african-american player, chuck cooper. he was picked in the second round of the draft, and in the ninth round of the draft, the washington capitals drafted earl lloyd, also a forward. three and a half years after jackie robinson integrated professional baseball, earl lloyd became the first african-american to play in a nba game. he scored six points and led both teams in rebounds with ten. that game earned earl lloyd induction into the basketball hall of fame in 2003 at nba's first african-american player. the day after earl lloyd's first game, chuck cooper played his first game for the celtics. and three days after that, sweet water clifton who had been playing for the harlem globetrotters played his first game for the knicks.
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it was simply time that gave him that advantage when he was inducted into the hall of fame. >> there were some unusual circumstances in 1950 that forever entwine the lives of two other people with me. and i speak of chuck cooper and sweetwater clifton. i would be remiss if i didn't mention that [ applause ] >> earl lloyd went on to play for the syracuse nationals and the washington capitals. he, let's z before he was drafted into the army during the korean war, then he played for the syracuse nationals. earl played his last two seasons with the detroit pistons and in 1960 became the nba's first
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african-american assistant coach. he wanted to continue playing as the assistant coach, but he dropped that idea when he saw the first giant. i saw wilt chamberlin for the first time. i quit right there. i said, coach, the guy isn't real. you've got your assistant coach. the first african-american coach was bill russell who became the team's player coach in 1966. in 1971, earl lloyd became the first non-playing african-american coach in the nba with the detroit pistons. detroit's biggest star of that era, hall-of-famer dave bing who was later elected mayor of detroit said this about coach lloyd. >> he taught a lot of us how to play the game. but more importantly, he taught us how to be good citizens, how to be good ambassadors for this
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game of basketball. >> in 2007, earl lloyd told the "washington post", that he was surprised that he was drafted, because having grown up across the river, he thought of the washington area as a cradle of segregation. he wasn't hate with the glare that jackie robinson had to deal with. he once told the "detroit free press", there was no publicity on it. remember, at the time, the nba was this little ho-hum league. some high schools drew more fans. earl lloyd's second road game was in ft. wayne, indiana where he was not allowed to eat in the restaurant of the hotel he was staying in. he remembered his coach's reaction this way.
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i told bones how much i appreciated the gesture. earl lloyd said, quote, but earl lloyd heard racial epithets many times and ignored them. on friday, i got an e-mail from bill russell's daughter, karen russell, telling me that earl lloyd, the first black player in the nba had just died. her note said that when her father joined the nba in 1956 with the boston celtics, earl
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lloyd warned him about where he wouldn't be able to get served when he was on the road. the last line of karen russell's e-mail to me, said, quote, we've come a long way. bibi or not bibi? that's the question. let's play "hardball." >> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. ground zero in a historic challenge now set for 11:00 tomorrow morning to president obama's leadership of this country, in an act of backroom partnership, speaker john boehner made an under the table deal. whatever everyone thinks of bibi netanyahu, he's not here to bring unity to american policymaking.


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