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a good agreement to have obviously it's worth waiting for and completing the negotiations. >> backing down after increasingly loud calls for indiana to reverse its religious freedom law, now governor mike pence is pushing for a legislative fix. >> after much reflection and in consultation with leadership in the general assembly i've come to the conclusion that it would be helpful to move legislation this week that makes it clear that this law does not give businesses a right to deny services to anyone. >> and captured we just learned that police in fairfax county virginia say the suspect who has been on the run all morning is now in custody.
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good day, i'm peter alexander here in the nation's capital. hours from the deadline for iran negotiator and secretary kerry and foreign counterparts to agree on a nuclear deal. my colleague, andrea mitchell joins us from luzon, switzerland with a reality check on where things stand at this hour. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning to you, peter. a reality check and also breaking news check. we have a new statement from the state department state department official saying they may go into tomorrow morning. our experts and diplomats are working very hard and may need -- to see if they can have an agreement and evaluating throughout the day the best path forward. we'll keep working if we are continuing to make progress including into tomorrow if it's useful to do so. no decisions have been made about the travel.
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so that is breaking news. joining me now is michael gordon, the top diplomatic correspondent with "the new york times." up until now they have been saying until midnight maybe a few hours now it's a completely different story. they are really stuck on this statement, even a boiled down statement of principles. >> well i think what secretary kerry is trying to accomplish is to come back with something tangible. we were led to believe that before this round that they would have some concrete numbers, something they could show congress to make the case against imposing additional sanctions. i think senior official called it a quantifiable dimension. iran has been playing a different game and reluctant to make commitments up front at this stage of the game. i think this is a struggle to come up with something that kerry can come back to come back with in washington and not have a lot of trouble selling. >> they are having trouble coming up with this agreement and the fact is that -- the fact
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they are willing to stay this long and put that couple of hours necessary indicates he doesn't want to walk away empty handed. >> kerry doesn't walk away from anything too easily. and the previous rounds of negotiations that went in overnight, really there were a couple of those. i think the dilemma is the supreme leader of iran has made it clear he wants all of the sanctions lifted up front, the first stage of an agreement. the united states doesn't trust iran to that extent. they want to phase it out. i think this is one of the major stumbling blocks as they try to hammer out some kind of accord. >> what about research and development, this obstacle of stopping iran from being able to go ahead with developments which is really important to the ayatollah, the leader has said scientific discovery and exploration is part of the iranian national mission. that seemed to really become a
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stumbling block late in this talk. >> it's a huge issue because iran makes the argument you can't return our scientific development. if you let iran develop and perfect second generation centrifuge s for enriching uranium, at the end of the agreement they could have a capability that dwarfs what they have now and that's the fear of israel and critics of the united states that this agreement may defer the day when iran becomes sbecome ss nuclear power and not divert it. it's a very important agreement that centers on years '11 to '15 to what was a few days ago participated to be a 15-year agreement. >> it's been a long 18 months and before that of course as well. thank you very much. >> thank you. and joining me now from los angeles is brad sherman. congressman, this is going to be handed to you, the white house had said all along, congress
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doesn't have it all -- i know there are conflicting proposals right now, coming back april 14th. and one of the pressures on john kerry, give me something here that i can -- that is detailed enough and tough enough that i can sell to the u.s. congress even though it's not a treaty. what will you as a member do? >> well we're going to have to see what emerges in switzerland. the president asked us to hold off on new sanctions for this march 31 deadline and as a practical matter that means until we reconvene in mid april. i think they've got to come up with something from switzerland or there will be a move to impose additional sanctions. what it has to do in terms of specificity and in terms of the quality, it's hard to judge. we'll know it when we see it. >> what about lifting the sanctions on iran? i mean that has been the bottom line position that the sanctions
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should not be lifted up front, that they should be phased out. your fellow members, democrats as well as republicans are talking about putting more sanctions on. >> as a practical matter unless this deal was spectacularly good and i'm not hearing that at all, congress is not going to change statutes. so the most the president will be able to deliver is that he'll suspend the sanctions for the rest of his presidency and when we get a new president, we'll have to see who that is and what their platform is. congress i think the president would be able to prevent congress from passing new sanctions he doesn't want. he'll probably have to veto them but this issue has become so particularly and partisan that a veto override vote will have a lot to do with democrats voting to withstand and withhold the president's veto. so if -- i would hope that
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congress would push the politics and personalities out of this and ee val wait the deal. if it's a bad deal pass new sanctions. but i don't think we'll do that over presidential veto. >> and despite the fact this has become so politicized and we have the netanyahu visit and the way that evolved from the speaker's, john boehner's invitation, john boehner in israel this week for a trip. is it arguable that this is a good deal because depending on what's in it that it will bring iran from 20,000 centrifuges perhaps down to 6,000 or fewer that it will increase inspections that will be more access, more verification of what iran is or is not doing? better than letting them have no barriers at all to their exploration and their scientific development? >> well our policy in the first ten years of this century was absolutely terrible. we did nothing to sanction iran
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and iran went full speed ahead with their centrifuges. anything is better than returning to that policy. if this deal breaks apart, we can't just walk away and do nothing and say, well the sanctions that were strong enough to quote, bring iran to the table will be sufficient to get them to as you saysuspend their program. if these talks break down it's proof that that wasn't the case. so if the talks don't go forward, we need a new program. we can't just continue what we're doing. >> brad sherman, thank you so much and thanks for being with us today. we have more breaking news surrounding the growing civil war in yemen. state department officials received a letter from the lawyer of a man named sharif mogly, expressing serious concerns, the lawyers are, that he could be a casualty ongoing
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saudi bombing campaign. keir simmons joins me now with his exclusive reporting on all of this including an audio report. thank you very much for joining us. tell us about this man. >> andrea, he's 31 father of three from jersey. he's being held in prison in yemen's capital sanaa for five years without trial. he's accused of connections to the al qaeda operative an war al a awe lack key, a shia group is fighting while saudi air straks began last week. his sister in jersey managed to gets through to him on the phone. his lawyers released this audio to us in which he says that anti-aircraft missiles are being fired from the roof of the place where he's being held making
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him a target. >> work hard because i'm really you know last night there was a bombing here from the saudi arabian airplane. they made a bomb here and it hit -- it hit the base it's very scary. and it made the whole building shake. what happens is the anti-airplane anti-aircraft guns that they are using here at this prison, they are using anti-aircraft guns on top of the prison. so it makes us a target. >> and his lawyer from the international human rights organization reprieve has written to the state department and in that letter she is saying it is now imperative that the u.s. government makes an immediate intervention with saudi arabia at the highest level to ensure saudi forces do not bomb the base where he's being held. the high likelihood that be woe severely injured or kills, if that happened and she says coordinates must now be communicated to saudi arabia as
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a matter of the highest importance so there can be no excuse for it being targeted in a bombing raid. she goes on to say the presence of civilian prisoners would make such an attack a potential war crime. he says that he hasn't had contact from u.s. officials since december. and he may be one of the last american citizens in the country, the state department we did reach out to them they have not given a response. but it's worth just remembering that many people are being killed in this bombing campaign 36 people overnight, effectively yemen is descending into war. >> an amazing insight into this bombing campaign. quick question how did he get arrested in the first place? was it part of a u.s. counterterrorism initiative with the former government the government that had been living there, allies there? >> right, exactly. >> where he was arrested in the
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first place? >> it is a little bit cloudy as you can expect. what he has said is that he traveled there in order to learn and understand the region the previous yemeni administration claims he was connected to al qaeda in that area and had links with them. his attorney denies that. there is something of a mystery. i guess one of the crucial points here is that over the period of five years he was not put on trial. he has not been convicted. so at the moment what there are are allegations but nothing actually proven in court. >> very fascinating story, thank you so much for your exclusive reporting on that. peter, back to you in washington. >> we'll check in with you later in the broadcast about the breaking news closer to home here in washington within the last few minutes we learned that police in the virginia suburb of fairfax county now confirmed that authorities have captured
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the suspect who escaped from a hospital early this morning. msnbc's kasie hunt is in falls church with the late breaking developments, 20 minutes outside the district now. it sounds like this man was picked up in washington, d.c.? >> reporter: good afternoon, we've just learned from the fairfax police that they have captured him, who was in the hospital tht morning. it is in the anacostia neighborhood of washington. that's after a lengthy chase that's taken him through at least two cars and from one state into the district of columbia. he apparently attempted to commit suicide and landed himself in the hospital where he was guarded by private security contractors. he had a confrontation with one of them he took the gun. he then left the hospital and ended up in a silver toyota that he drove around at some length
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in these washington suburbs. police say he then abandoned that car, was on foot for a little while then carjacked a second car, a hyundai elantra. he was in a hospital gown and then found normal street clothes and in those street clothes when the police here last saw him. we don't know quite yet the details of exactly what happened between his carjacking in one of the neighborhoods that's nearby this hospital and ultimately ending up in the district of columbia in those different clothes. hopefully we'll still get those additional details from the fairfax police. >> all right, the bottom line that that suspect is now in custody and say of relief for a lot of people. coming up next right here indiana's governor is defending his state's controversial religious freedom law but says the legislature there needs to address the outcry from around the country.
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the governor of indiana is calling for a fix to the religious freedom law which critics say discriminates against gays and lesbians. >> this law does not give anyone a license to deny services to gay and lesbian couples.
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and look i -- i could have handled that better this weekend. but i -- going into that interview this weekend, i was just determined to set the record straight about what this law really is. >> with the governor acknowledging his mistakes in the way he handled the conversation joining me now is nbc's john yang. they had a little time to digest what the governor said. did he do a sufficient job in the eyes of many people there, including the major newspaper of clarifying the law? >> reporter: peter, i think ultimately that's going to be a decision for the people of indiana, he did sort of work very hard today to try to clarify the law but he's been doing that practically since thursday when he signed it. he did address for the first time the issue of gay and lesbian rights. he said he was pressed on whether he believed that
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bakeries and florists should be forced or should be required to serve same-sex marriages. he waffled on that and gave a very lawyerly response about the balance in the courts but did speak out against discrimination but said a specific law protecting their rights is not on his agenda. >> i don't support discrimination against gays or lesbians or anyone else. >> so no. >> no i don't support discrimination against gays or lesbians or anyone else. i ab who discriminate i want to say this -- no one should be harassed or mistreated because of who they are, who they love or what they believe. >> reporter: peter, we're here with greg lieuou began is is
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working with the people protesting this law. i saw you outside the press conference. apparently you weren't allowed in. i don't know if you heard what the governor said that he wants to clarify that nothing in this law could be used to allow a business to deny services to anyone. he also spoke out against discrimination against gays and lesbians. what's your reaction to that? >> any type of legislation like this i mean is harmful. the thing i'm most concerned about is the youth. what kind of message are we sending our young kids? because we have such a high rate of teen suicide amongst lgbt youth. growing up as a young man i tried to commit suicide and felt i was less than. that's what this legislation does. it makes -- sends a message to young people that they are less than. and that should not be where we're at today.
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>> reporter: you spent time in indiana training in trials. what's your reaction to the way hoosiers are being looked at because of this? >> you know what i've always felt embraced by the community in indianapolis we had olympic trials and national championships and pan-american games, i made my professional dance debut in indy. i felt embraced by the people. i don't feel that the governor is speaking for all of the people in indiana. so yeah legislation like this is really really very harmful. >> what are your plans going forward? terms of -- i know you were at the rally in city council and watched them pass the resolution asking for the repeal of this law. where do you go now from here? >> i came into town out of love to support gene white, it's the 25th anniversary of the passing
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of ryan white. there's a new book launch directed to young people so his legacy lives on. he was such an incredible influence in my life and dear and close friend. i'm here to support jeanie. >> reporter: very good. peter back to you. >> thanks to greg as well. to the political impacts of this including how potential 2016 candidates are reacting joining us now for our daily fix is chris cillizza. and out of the gates to you, this is the first cultural fight of this early presidential contest with all republicans backing the religious liberty law but there have been divisions among several of them. how have they handled this and what do they do now? >> what you've seen is everyone see religious liberty is
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important in this law, that's what the intent of the law is. you've seen some folks ted cruzes saying that nothing should be amended or changed here which is not the position of mike pence, that he would like to see the law amended to say, that this does not condone discrimination in any way, shape or form. look religious liberty remains something that is very very important to the republican base. this idea that the federal government or even state government cannot pass laws that infringe or force them to go against the religious beliefs. so you even tell someone like jeb bush hit for being too moderate come out and say, i support this my guess is everyone in the republican field is going to be basically with pence on this and we'll see whether what he said just now puts this controversy quiets it or doesn't. >> governor pence views this as
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to use his language, a perception problem by reckless reporting. >> he's done better than he did in previous interviews where he left open the question whether discrimination against lgbt people in indiana would be allowed. he tried to clean that up. the issue of perception no matter what he did today, you're going to see democrats make this about discrimination. they are going to say this is not a religious issue, purely a discrimination issue. we know democrats will be pushing republicans to weigh in on social issues. for someone like jeb bush this is something if he goes into a general election and wants to present himself as being a more moderate republican will hangover his head. >> julie pace and chris cillizza, we appreciate your time. joining me now, the ceo of sales and one of the companies operating in indiana to take action after the religious freedom bill was
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passed this year. we appreciate your time. your headquarters are in the san francisco bay area but employ 2,000 to 3,000 workers in indianapolis largely after you acquired the company. you canceled company events in indiana after the governor signed the law. what do you make of his speech today and will you change your plans? >> well peter, this is a bad law and it needs to change. and the faster the governor changes the law, the better it is for everybody. when he goes after our employees and tries to discriminate against them ceos are going to stand up and say it's not going to be okay with us. you saw in this case a broad range of ceos, not just myself but those from apple and microsoft and eli lilly and angie's list and so many others who immediately made a statement that this law is not okay because the damage that it creates to our employees and customers is unacceptable. >> last year one of your conversations alone brought in
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close to 8 million, maybe $9 million to indianapolis. i know you say the law needs to change. is it insufficient what he said today or are you waiting to see the action before you bring business back there? >> it is. he has not made the statement yet that we're waiting for -- >> which is what? >> we want to make sure our employees and customers are protected. we're the largest technology employer in indiana. we do bring thousands of customers to indiana and we want them to have a great experience. the governor is right when he says the people of indiana are in of the nicest people in the world. i agree, this law though is brutal. and it opens up a level of discrimination of those employees and customers that is just unacceptable. >> mark is a fix good enough or does the lawal together need to be repealed in your eyes? >> i think they can make a fix as long as they make it crystal clear that if you are an lgbt member and you're walking into a cafe, there isn't going to be a sign that says no gays allowed.
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and you saw those legislative leaders baseically make a statement that it was okay to have a sign in the window that said no gays allowed. that's not all right. >> marc benihoff joining us near your headquarters in san francisco. >> thanks peter. >> a week after the germanwings plane crashed in the french alps, any luck finding the second black box? we'll get an update next. you're watching msnbc.
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victims to visit the area near the crash site over the upcoming holiday weekend. germanwings flight 9525 crashed a week ago today. officials believe the co-pilot deliberatery flew the plane into the alps but still unclear why. bill neely, what's the latest we're hearing right now, specifically in terms of the friend of the co-pilot andreas lubitz? what is he saying? >> reporter: as you said the second black box the flight data recorder still has not been found. the searchers still looking for it and airline suggesting it might never be found, it might in fact be in 100 pieces that's not necessarily so significant because that black box will simply confirm the details that we already know about the flight path. as you say, french president francois hollande saying all
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victims will be identified by the end of the week. now, this is very curious and perhaps a little optimistic because the french police head of their criminal research institute has said it could take between two and four months to identify all of the victims. i think the problem might be because what the french president is talking about is extracting dna from all of the body parts more than 600 that have been recovered at the crash site so far. matching that dna to the dna that's been given by the relatives of the victims may take a lot longer than the french president really believes. there's some discrepancy there as well. we know tomorrow that the head of lufthansa is coming here to visit the site. luf han is a is under a lot of pressure to explain more fully how it came to be that it employed and passed a man with a history of what was described yesterday as suicidal tendencyies
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tendencies. lufthansa has suggested it does not know anything about his history and could not know everything because of straight privacy laws. for the first time friends and indeed family of andreas lubitz are beginning to speak to the press and others more significantly to the investigators. there's still an awful lot we still do not know about andreas lubitz. yes, we've had all of this background information about suicidal tendencyies and perhaps he was depressed. but we really still do not know what on earth triggered in andreas lubitz' mind to make him do this. that remains and perhaps will always remain the central mystery of this crash. back to you. >> bill neely, such a spectacular backdrop hosting such an awful story. we appreciate it.
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the talks are continuing and that as long as they are making progress they will try too keep at it. i'm joined by joe sers yoenny in washington who is a senior state department -- on the state department advisory board and here in luzon, so sorry, where are we? from the iranian american national fund -- council. you can tell that we and the negotiators have been up all night straight through the night. first to you, iran is staying at the table as well. who wants this more? iran or the united states? >> both sides want it a lot. no doubt about the commitment of the two sides. however, the u.s. side has had more pressure from home to get this done by march 31st. but the congress has done by threatening new sanctions is not to puts pressure on iran.
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it's actually put more pressure on the u.s. negotiations and that's been visible. the iranians have been feeling if time is on their side because they are not facing a congress willing to break all of the rules right now. >> joe, this of course gets down to the very important details, from what we know there's still disagreement on sanctions. there's disagreement on research and development, there's disagreement or at least reducing the number of advanced centrifuges from 20,000 to 10,000 and now perhaps less than 6,000. there's no agreement on research and development and controlling iran in the future in terms of their scientific exploration. there is apparently a tentative agreement on converting a plutonium facility being built, reengineering it to be for civilian purposes only. from what's on the table so far, is this looking like it could be a good deal? >> andrea the focus of many of the news stories and many of my own analyses has been the details, how many centrifuges
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and how much gas will they be able to retain. how soon will the sanctions come off. but it kind of obscures the big news that you just mentioned, we have substantial agreement that we're going to roll back the iranian program to slashing it by as much as two thirds. we're going to stop their pathways to a bomb. we're going to freeze the program, put it in a box and then put a camera on it. and that is going to last at least ten years. that is a substantial achievement achievement. it makes us safer than we are now and safer than any conceivable alternative out there. the details are still being hammered out and i don't want to minimize those. but it looks like from everything we know so far, that this is going to be a big win for u.s. national security. >> now, there was a critical comment today from the former deputy director of the international atomic energy agency and he said even what has
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been discussed publicly so far is not the one year guarantee, one year insurance policy of breakout where iran could not develop a bomb for at least a year without inspectors knowing it. what about that? that's of great concern? >> i think it's premature for those types of tabletopical lagss. this is not a bunch of diplomats negotiating this. we have the secretary of energy who's doing this the national laboratories. we have people from the department of energy. we have our national security specialists, paul richter from the l.a. times reports that the u.s. built a secret facility of iranian sentry fujs to test out exactly how they work and how much time it would take them to make the material for one bomb. even if one year breakout time is misleading because that gives them the material for a bomb. it would take another six months or year to make a bomb and even then they just have one.
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no country on earth has ever broken out with just one bomb. you usually want to have a small arsenal before you declare yourself a nuclear power. >> is this something that john kerry, if it does come together can sell back home with congress and if he leaves here without anything, we're told that still is a possibility. what does that mean in terms of u.s. iranian relations? >> i certainly believe that the secretary of state can sell this at home. we have to keep one thing in mind. part of the reason why it's been at times a bit tough for the administration to talk about this. they cannot reveal the details of the negotiations. if they did, they would be undermining the talks. they've been fighting this fight with one hand tied behind their back. once they have something, once they have something they can show, i'm pretty confident they can definitely make a case. as joe mentioned, when they have -- like secretary moniz can explain the science better than anyone else i don't think
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there's anyone that can question him. even in the previous question the current head of the iea and two formers heads do not agree with his assessment. >> thank you so much. joe, thanks for being with us today. peter alexander, back to you in washington. >> we're going to give you time for a quick cat nap but we'll come back to you in a few seconds. the team for dzhokhar tsarnaev says they are not calling any more witnesses. what does it mean? that's next. this is msnbc. denver international is one of the busiest airports in the country. we operate just like a city and that takes a lot of energy. we use natural gas throughout the airport - for heating the entire terminal generating electricity on-site and fueling hundreds of vehicles. we're very focused on reducing our environmental impact. and natural gas is a big part of that commitment.
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and joins us now from boston. where do things stand in this moment? >> reporter: well hey, there peter, good afternoon. they are in a bref recess, going over photographs that both sides are trying to determine whether the jury will be presented with these photos. the defense has said it will not call any more witnesses but have not officially rested. it was not much of a defense in terms of the number of witnesses called. there were a couple of witnesses yesterday and couple more today and what the defense is trying to do with these few witnesses that they've called is to essentially say that tamerlan tsarnaev, the brother, is the one who masterminded all of this and their contention from the start he was an influence on his younger brother who at the time was going to college and trying to study and things of that sort. once the court resumes, we're expecting a lunch break, then presumably after the lunch break maybe the defense rests officially and then the next step will then be to give jury instructions. now, there's no timing on when
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that will happen. but the case seems to be winding down. we do expect officially that the defense will rest today, peter. >> quickly some of the most powerful images came yesterday when they spoke about the loss of life martin richard, the young boy killed holding up clothing he was wearing when he was there on race day. >> reporter: yeah, there were a lot of tears in the courtroom yesterday. it almost seemed the prosecution wanted to remind this jury after having sat through a lot of forensic testimony where one juror reportedly fell asleep yesterday, they went through a lot of that type of testimony and brought them back to the fact that we're dealing with a multiple murder case here three people killed at the marathon and fourth person at m.i.t. police officer. the jurors were certainly wrapped with attention when that evidence came in about martin richard. >> ron mott thanks so much. speaking of new england region bob kraft testified this morning in a murder trial against his
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former tight end, aaron hernandez. he told the jury hernandez told him he was innocent when he was asked if he was involved in the june 2013 murder. >> you asked aaron to look you in the eye, didn't you? >> yes. >> and he did, didn't he? >> yes. >> and you asked him if he was involved and he said no? >> that's correct. >> and you wanted him to be straight with you, didn't you? >> yes. >> you wanted to be straight with him, correct? >> yes. >> and you told him you would support him, didn't you? >> yes. and aaron told you he had nothing to do with this isn't that right? >> he said he was innocent. >> hernandez has pleaded not guilty to murder of odin lloyd.
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we'll check back in andrea one final time in switzerland to see what the next few hours will bring. this was to be deadline day but it could be extended. this is msnbc.
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one more time we want to turn back to andrea mitchell in what could be the final hours in the iran nuclear talks. the potential that they extend this conversation to moem which critics appreciate the fact that tomorrow is april 1st. >> reporter: indeed. the fact is they are still talking and instead of walking away from the table, which tells me something, it tells you that both sides want something to come out of all of this effort. it's not in fact two sides, it's six nations plus iran and european union representatives. so there's a lot at stake. this is really the future of relations with iran. iran has been so heavily
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sanctioned, people in iran have been suffering. there have been the threat of proliferation. there are skeptics in the region and saudi arabia is very concerned and there are some arguing if a weak deal goes through and iran gets to keep a lot of its nuclear technology the saudis will want to match it and that will mean a nuclear arms race in the most volatile part of the world. there's so much at stake and the fact they are still at it means they are trying and maybe they can come up with something but it is clearly not going to be as extensive and detailed as some may have hoped. >> of course political consequences as well? >> reporter: yeah this is a legacy issue clearly for barack obama. what else is working well in foreign policy, with the withdrawals from iraq and afghanistan have not exactly gone as predicted. isis and all of those threats, the failures in yemen and libya, this is a big deal. and john kerry has put his heart and soul into this after the
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failure of the middle east peace talks, this is it peter. thank you. >> no doubt. we appreciate your help today. you've had a long one and there's a couple long nights likely ahead for you. that is going to do it for this edition of quts andrea mitchell reports. you can follow me at peter alexander. my colleague thomas roberts is joining us now with what's coming up next on msnbc live. regovernor mike pence of indiana says his state's religious freedom act does not give businesses a right to deny services to anyone. why couldn't he provide that simple answer on the talk show circuit, does it mean he'll sign a new law for gender protection and security. stick around.
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roberts. we begin in indiana, at any moment the state's democratic leaders will hold a news conference directly responding to governor mike pence. he announced this morning that he wants the legislature to clarify the state's religious freedom restoration act. >> i've come to the conclusion it would be helpful, to move legislation this week that make it clear that this law does not give businesses a right to deny services to anyone. >> so all of this comes as the governor and legislature faced heavy criticism, including what may have been the final straw, this editorial by the indianapolis star calling on them to "fix this now." john yang joins me live from indianapolis. there on pt ground what's the reaction now from people there as they've heard from the governor today trying to make this clarification? >> it's a little too


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