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look at what naacp, ncaa has done walmart. >> walmart. >> think about that. >> the heart of america, and they're just saying no to what's going on in indiana. >> it's if way too early what time is it? >> it's "morning joe." but stick around because "the rundown"'s next. and good morning. i'm jose diaz-balart. developing now on "the rundown," the ceo of lufthansa this morning refusing to answer questions about just how much the airline knew about the mental health of the copilot suspected of deliberately crashing a passenger plane into the french alps. on tuesday, lufthansa, which owns germanwings, revealed andreas lubitz suffered severe depression in 2009 but was still cleared to fly. the head of the two airlines visiting the crash site laying flowers to remember all those who died in the crash more than a week ago. lufthansa ceo said he was very
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sorry and said it will take a long time to understand what exactly happened. now, nbc's bill neely was there and tried to ask a question. [ speaking in foreign language ] language ]. >> reporter: sir, when did you find the 2009 e-mail from lubitz? >> i'm sorry. i'm sorry. there is no -- >> reporter: what took you so long to publish. >> there's no -- sorry for that. >> psychological -- >> sorry for that. >> reporter: why won't you take our questions? >> thank you. thank you so much. >> reporter: sir, your employee crash add plane. why are you refusing to take questions? >> let's go live to nbc's claudia lavanga near the crash site in the alps. what's the reaction following that news conference? >> reporter: the reaction is a mix of surprise and disappointment, really. we were hoping this morning the germanwings and lufthansa ceos would elaborate a little more on that statement released yesterday that they did obtain
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this e-mail exchange information between lubitz and the flight training school ran by lufthansa in germany in 2009 where lubettes said he went through a period of depression and he took off from training. they were very reluctant in answering bill neely's question. but they said yesterday to nbc news they made it clear while trainees including, of course lubitz, are training in the flight facility even though it's run by lufthansa, they are not employees of lufthansa yet until they get a pilot's license, raising more questions than answers. of course you will wonder why an airline company would not want to receive medical or mental information about their trainees or during the training and prior to the training before they're granted a pilot's license, jose. >> and claudio, meanwhile, the research continues and the crews are out in the area trying to
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still comb up through the debris. right? look at this picture we're just getting in. >> reporter: we told this morning that -- yes. we were told this morning that all of the body parts, the visible body parts have finally been removed from the crash site. a major boost for the investigation. the president, france president, francois hollande hope to identify all remains of the victims by the end of the week. the way to do that take dna samples from remains and match with the dna samples given to investigators by the families. the fact all of the visible body remains have been removed is of course will make that possible. by the end of the week we should have at least all the remains identified. jose? >> claudio lavanga, thank you so much and we're seeing larger pieces of the airplane found this morning. i want to bring in nbc aviation analyst john cox.
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lufthansa revealed yesterday, in 2009 suffered an episode of severe depression. what should have happened with that information? >> good morning, jose. one of the things we have to be careful of the airlines are in a precarious position because they can't release full data disclosure because it's an investigation that is being run not only through the bea but also as a criminal investigation. so they have their hands tied to some degree about what they can release. essential the in certainly the investigators are going to look at the disclosure made by lufthansa. the individual, the pilot, has an obligation to report this not only to the, to his employer lufthansa in germanwings, but also to the appropriate authorities. the medical people who certify pilots to be able to fly. so all of this is going to be looked at very carefully to make sure that all the proper protocols were followed. >> it's just odd that the
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information that the pilot or copilot find out about themselves, it's the responsibility its theirs to inform their potential employer when if they shared that potential information with the potential employer they may not get the job. it's odd you put the responsibility on the person affected? >> well that's the way that it has been done for decades and proven to be pretty successful. additionally, remember that pilots work in very close proximity to each other. consequently, if someone's not performing well or is is performing below their normal standard, it doesn't take very long before other pilots will report that. so there's a self-monitoring within the system that has worked very effectively for decades. >> and it didn't work in this case. he had what 650 flight hours and it seems as though no one kind of raised that flag on him. >> that's one of the things investigators will look at.
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during the time he was flying, was anybody concerned about his ability? so far we haven't heard that they were. one other thing, there's been a lot of information or a lot of speculation about his amount of flight time. the process and training program used in europe known at abinitio is a rigorous program much like the military here in the united states so that low hours does not indicate lack of experience necessarily or qualification. we have very experienced pilots that can have low hours just like we do in the u.s. military. >> john cox, pleasure to see you. thanks for being with me this morning. turning to the other big developing overseas putting more time on the clock despite having blown past that self-imposed deadline 15 hours ago. we're hearing secretary of state john kerry once again met with his counterpart to hammer out
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and could have an announcement anytime today. reuters says goertnegotiators have a tentative agreement on a rough outline of a possible agreement on the progress made so far. that's a lot of vague language. don't you think? it's not surprising considering the disputes are unresolved apparently. with so much up in the air israeli prime minister netanyahu took a few minutes to slam the few details that have come out. >> the concessions offered to iran in lausanne would ensure a bad deal that would endanger israel, the middle east and the peace of the world. now is the time for the international community to insist on a better deal. >> nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell is in lausanne switzerland with the very latest. good morning. >> reporter: jose, even after going into overtime the ministers were meeting although the french and russians and
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chinese left the remaining ministers stayed here and john kerry had a one-on-one meeting with iran's foreign minister zarif. there are still issues to resolve. there was significant progress they're thinking a statement could come out today and certainly don't want to say another day. people are packing their bags getting ready to be prepared to run to the airport. at this point it's not finished yet, and they still are arguing, i'm told over the sanctions. the sanctions relief. the immediate relief iran is demanding, phasing it out, suspended it out, and prime minister benjamin netanyahu in israel preemptively tried to take a shot at this deal the deal that is still not officially on paper saying that it would be on conscionable to negotiate a -- unconscionable. the critics are not out there not even waiting, and the administration nervously trying to finish this deal.
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the president was briefed by videoconference from kerry and the negotiators last night. the president, the vice president, the secretary of defense, the whole national security team all in washington by video conference. it was mountain night here when that briefing took place and they still then went back for more talks. they have been basically going around the clock. jose? >> andrea mitchell thank you so very much. 4,000 miles away in washington the white house and congress are keep kag close eye and ear on the talks. the administration released this picture of the teleconference last night, midnight switzerland between between john kerry and the president and his national security team. connecticut democrat is on the foreign relations committee joining me now. a pleasure to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> thanks. seems leak the ss like the bar is low ared by the hour. what are your hopes for these talks at this point? >> i think it's important to understand two thing. first, this is an ashrbitrary
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deadline. march 31st. progress made common sense to give negotiators more time and the second thing to understand is this is a deadline to get a framework to get a general understanding of an agreement. the actual negotiations have been extended to june and so i don't think we should set too high a bar for what we'll see by the end of today. and so i'm hopeful that the congress and the american people are going to have the maturity to let the negotiations play all the way out to the end, and at that point congress has the right by statute to weigh in and support the deal, approve it or disapprove it. take the president's power away to implement it. so i'm certainly supportive of he's in negotiations going another day, and hopeful we'll continue to see progress. >> senator, all negotiations have a imt willed time period. they're not always open-ended and i remember being in washington, d.c. for the reagan/gorbachev summit, just a couple of days. it's a couple of days.
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so if it's not done by those days, one puts it on pause and maybe junior negotiators take over, but seems as though these negotiations are being extended with the highest levels still present? >> extended but extended for a 24-hour period. not talking about extension of weeks or months and i think it's right that we have to tell the iranians at some point they have to make a decision as to whether they're sincere about this. the problem is as the "new york times" pointed out this morning, that you have the people in the room who don't have the power and you have the people who have the power being totally inaccessible back in tehran. at some point we have to sap to the irans, if you're not serious it's time to walk away and we will reimpose sanction p sanctions and pass a new he of sanctions and maybe a year in now you'll decide it's time to get serious, but i don't think we're at at point to walkway. give it at least another 24 hours. >> what is your position on the role and responsibility that congress should have regardless
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of what happens in switzerland, and the corker/menendez bill? how do you see that aspect going? >> well congress reserves the right to weigh in on this deal after it's signed. we have the ability the day after the deal is signed to review it and either approve it or take away the president's power to implement it and that's what i'm hopeful we will do. that we will wait until these negotiations are over and if a deal is entered into at that point have a debate in the united states congress. the risk is that if we pass something when we get back from this easter recess in the middle of the final negotiating period it could send a really troubling signal to the iranians about the division within the u.s. government. so i think that congress has the ability to weigh in one way or the other on the deal. i just hope we have the maturity toy wait until the negotiations are over before we do that. that's what the administration is requesting. and i think it's important for us to listen to the negotiators who are in the room who know what will be helpful and hurtful to their work.
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>> senator murphy thank you so much for being with me. so appreciate your time. >> thanks a lot. and we're keeping a close eye on developments out of the nuclear negotiations in switzerland. if a deal is struck we'll bring it to you immediately. we're just getting started. coming up, the battle over the so-called freedom laws in the u.s. the governor of arkansas getting ready to sign a similar law as in ind. the latest on the controversy and talk about the legal director for a um whoen rights campaign. also this hour preparations under way for monday's closing arguments in the boston marathon bombing trial. our own pete williams has been in the courtroom. a report from his just ahead. music) this is the place. ♪ ♪ ♪ their beard salve is made from ♪ ♪ ♪ sustainable tea tree oil and kale... you, my friend, recognize when a trend has reached critical mass. yes, when others focus on one thing you see what's coming next. you see opportunity. that's what a type e* does.
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>>. developing now the backlash over indiana's freedom law intensifies another state is jumping into the exact same controversy. on tuesday the arkansas house passed its own version of a religious freedom bill. now it goes to governor asa hutchison expected to sign it into law despite the objections of walmart, the nation's largest employer headquartered in arkansas. >> i've come to the conclusion it would be helpful to move legislation this week that makes it clear that this law does not give businesses a right to deny services to anyone. >> it's something the state's democratic leaders say is not enough. >> they're going to have a hard time convincing -- >> the most clear, decisive and understandable thing we can do is repeal the statute and repeal it promptly. >> nbc's john yang is in indiana with the very latest reaction from hoosiers.
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john good morning. >> good morning, jose. the governor's statement doesn't seem to be calming this firestorm at all. if anything it's spreading. protests spreading. to bloomington, indiana, southwest of here home of indiana university, and the folks we've been talking to around indianapolis say that this is a half step by the governor and they don't feel it's going to do anything. they feel that the damage is already done. >> this isn't what we are about. i think we've been disgusted 24 hours a day since this all began and i don't see that changing unless something drastically changes i. can't even imagine one that would not serve anyone who walked in the door. >> reporter: new this morning, the denver mayor banning official travel to indiana. the university of connecticut bask, men's bask coaching staff, will not be coming to the final four and the ncaa meeting surrounding it this coming weekend.
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jose, this is showing no signs of calming down anytime soon. >> john yang thank you very much. appreciate that. joining me now a key voice in the legal debate around these laws, legal director for human rights campaign the largest lgbt civil rights organization in the country sarah warbalow. >> thank you for having me. >> the bake ssics. what's the difference between the law in indiana and arkansas? >> really no difference between the law passed in indiana and the law passed in arkansas. both are intensely problematic, allow corporations to voice religious beliefs, and allow individuals who want to discriminate the ability to claim a defense under this new act. >> and so you are saying it allows corporations to voice religious belief. is there -- what is the problem with that? >> well, corporations should be open to the public at large. and serve every individual who's
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able to afford their services. that's the way we've operated in the united states for a very long time. we have critical laws in place, prohibiting discrimination on the basis of race on the basis of religion and in states around the country on the basis of sex and many on the basis of sexual orientation gender identity. we want to make sure that these laws can't be used to poke holes into those core protections. >> so in the case of indiana, that's exactly what the governor is saying he wants by this fix that they're calling it. is that enough? >> we're very heartened by the governor's statements but he really needs to come through. he needs to ensure that the religious freedom restoration act adopted by the state cannot be used to allow for undermining of civil rights laws, and he needs to make sure that lgbt people are protected in every area of the indiana civil rights
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law. >> and you know, pro poemtsro -- proponents point to the hobby lobby case and do you see these at relevant? >> when president clinton signed the federal rifra it was to protect rights of potential minorities. individuals who might have been required to take off hats and head coverings in their federal government place of employment and had religious reasons to push back against that. but over time these laws have been interpreted by courts to create harms for third parties. not just for the lgbt community, but for members of religious minorityies as well. >> like what? >> so for instance, we have had police officers claim that they should not have to patrol a sin
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going -- synagogue based on religious beliefs. no one should use beliefs to harm a third party. instead we should be protecting religious practice and religious values without bringing harm to anyone else. >> thank you so much for being with me. so appreciate your time. >> thank you for having me. after the break we'll zoom through some of today's other top stories including the death of an oil heir with a prominent family name. first, i just had to show you this dangerous scene. not every day you see rhino walking down the street. it happened in in a pall. ed ined in the rhino eventually decided to go back into the woods, where they live. and he apparently just you know, took a stroll a right turn that was wrong somewhere, but found home afterwards.
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the death of an oil heir and good news for a transplant candidate. zoom through some of today's top stories. investigators in los angeles are trying to figure out how the heir died found in the bathroom of his hollywood hills home yesterday. officials in the l.a. coroner's office say the death appears to be natural or accidental and not criminal. andrew getty was among the heirs to the getty oil fortune estimated to be in the billions. the parents of the 43 missing students in mexico are appealing to the leader of a drug cartel to help find their children. because a rival gang is believed to be responsible for the disappearance, the families handed out leaflets and posted an open letter to the leader of a gang and want him to please give any information he may
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have. mexican officials say the students were held by police back in september and then handed oebver to this gang to be killed. an update on the story we first brought you last week on "the rundown." a mexican man in need of a double heart and liver transplant fighting to come to the united states for treatment was granted a 90-day humanitarian pass. he is planning to head to the mayo clinic in minnesota. the past can be renewed once here in the u.s. as the wait for organs could be very long. after a quick break, we'll talk about the race for the white house, and a new article on a new group quietly raising money for jeb bush. plus hillary clinton's benghazi controversy sneaking back into the headlines. i'll explain that. also a live look at the nasdaq where business leaders are holding a summit to look at how the united states new relationship with the cuban regime can help the american economy. we're going to take you there live. next. you owned your car for four years.
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the boston marathon bombing trial is at a turning point today with closing arguments set to begin monday after 16 days of emotional testimony. let's get the latest from nbc justice correspondent pete williams at the federal courthouse in boston. pete good morning. >> reporter: jose good morning. the defense put on just four witnesses lasting barely five hours total. dzhokhar tsarnaev lawyers concede he took part in the bombing but insist it was his older brother who was really in charge. an fbi analyst called by the defense told the jury that when all the fragments of the two marathon bombs were checked, 500 pieces in all, the only fingerprints ever found were from dzhokhar tsarnaev's older brother tamerlan and governed on just two pieces. the backpack that held the second bomb and a mangled piece of cardboard from the second. two of dzhokhar tsarnaev
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fingerprints were found on an unexploded tupperware bomb found in watertown but six of tamerlan's, too. the very brief defense testimony is now over and the defendant never did take the stand. legal experts predicted he would not. given that his own lawyers said he was involved in the bomb attacks calling lots of witnesses including him would have been surprising. >> even if it's on some relatively nuanced topics, i'm afraid that jury might look at it like, well i thought he said he was guilty. why is he putting on a defense? >> reporter: some question rees main unanswered. example, did tamerlan's wife katherine know about the bomb plot? she's been questioned by the fbi but never charged and was not a witness during the trial. in fact her name was barely even mentioned. court is in recess until monday. that's when the lawyers will give their closing arguments, and the jury will begin deliberating. a guilty verdict seem as center. so after a brief pause, they'll be a second trial on the penalty. jose?
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>> pete williams, thank you so very much. now to a pair of political story lines how secrets could play into the race for the white house. according to a new report in "the washington post," jeb bush has a new way to kwauquietly raise campaign cash and for hillary clinton, the e-mail controversy is not going way. investigating the benghazi attack putting a clock on clinton saying they want to speak to the former secretary of state before may 1st. clinton's spokesman says she is ready to testify, and joining me now, reporters on both stories, "washington post" political reporter ed oh keefe and msnbc political reporter alex sikes wald. good to see you both. >> good morning. >> ed, start with you. the headline reads "secret unlimited donations could boost a jeb bush run." what did you find? >> a former aide and frent ofiend
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of the governor, former kre wm ceo of walmart right to rides policy solutions. if right to rise sounds familiar it's also the name of the two pacts that bush has been raising money for. and mr. simon tells us he's established this group, it's essentially going to be a think tank inspired by the ideas or ideals of governor bush and that it will operate independently of whatever campaign or super pac continues to exist once or if governor bush makes it official. but what's interesting about this, jose is that it allows it conceivably collect money from donors anonymously, and we're likely to not know where exactly that money is coming from under the current irs rushlgs that'sles it's allowed and a way to boost a potential bush candidacy. >> if they raise that money as a think tank trying to hide it maybe should have named it something differently, but it they do raise the money, that money can be then directly given to a bush campaign in the future?
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>> not necessarily. and they have said or people familiar with it have said that this group isn't going to run political advertising, isn't going to do campaign mailers pocusing on policy issues and publishing the? ed on the website and letting people see it. they couldn't necessarily give money to a superpacker, to a campaign but that super pac bush is raising money for could conceivably give money to the think tank. the reasons why this is going on, why mr. simon felt it necessary aren't entirely clear. he wouldn't answer those questions. we'll learn more about it in the coming weeks but show thes extent to which bush's team is building on a political operation to help him ahead of a formal complain launch. >> yeah and alex fund-raising extremely strong point for the clintons. they've been here before. they know how to do it successfully. how closely are they watching the right's fund-raising efforts and how will it impact the fund-raising strategy for a clinton campaign?
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>> clinton allies definitely identified jeb bush as the top opponent that one that scares them the most. he's able to raise huge amounts of money, has the republican establishment locked up behind him and they're definitely eyes him as the guy to go all the way nap said they think he's rusty, keeping a chloe eye on scott walker, rand paul, some of the other people in the 2016 race but if they had to pick one oh peanut they don't want to go up against now it's definitely jeb bush. >> meanwhile they have a very strong campaign fund-raising machine in place, which is going to be very helpful, because all candidates are going to have to raise a lot of money. >> yeah. no doubt about that. one thing they're doing actually a lot of expect aches setting on fund-raising now. saying you should compare her fund-raising right out of the gate first quarter results to her 2008 campaign not to obama in 2012. because she doesn't have a super pac, doesn't have a senate campaign. she doesn't have the benefits of
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the incumbency of the presidency and she's limiting the amount of money she can take. only going to take money for the primary campaign not the general election campaign. so that's going to limit it somewhat, and that's a part of a larger trend their trying. trying to say her nushless come down in the polls, not as strong as everybody thinks she's going to. doing a lot of expectation setting all around just ahead of her announcement which could come any week now. >> clinton folks say these ready to testify and the delay is on the oversight committee. will testifying, is that going to affect her presidential rollout? >> it definitely is something that could trip them up. the faultline is over timing and format. she wanted to testify as early as december nap obviously didn't happen. wanted to get it out of the way before presidential rollout. gowdy, the chairman of the house benghazi committee yesterday asked her to testify by may 1st. in a private setting, would rather do a public setting. worried about republicans
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leaking out selectively parts of a transcript that could be unflattering. we'll see how that resolves itself. >> thank you so much. breaking news ed o'keefe, your mantra here. breaking news ed. thank you, man. appreciate it. >> take care jose. cuba is in focus this morning at the nasdaq exchange in new york's times square holding an all-day forum called the cuba opportunity summit. restoring ties with the communist regime could lead to billions for american companies. coming a day after a meeting. the first formal dialogue on the issue since president obama announced plans to restore ties with cuba last december. chief international correspondent michelle caruso-cabrera helped ring the opening bell at the nasdaq where she's moderating some of the panels at today's cuba summit and joins us now from the nasdaq. michelle good to see you. >> good to see you.
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>> thanks. so let's start with what's on the agenda today. >> the summit is about opportunities, about investments in in cuba. what are the realities. as you and i have talked about, even though there are a lot of changes, incredibly difficult to invest in cuba because the cuban government makes it incredibly difficult to invest in cuba at this point. i have to tell you, there's more than 200 people here. a waiting list i'm told by oggers of more than 100 people that wanted to be here. and couldn't get in because there was so much demand and we know now speaking with a lot of people they have put together hundreds of millions of dollars if not billions ready to be able to do things like go in and do construction, and things that the cuban economy definitely needs, if there's enough of an improve innocent in relationships where that can happen. >> and the fact is if you're dealing with any kind of big construction or big business in cuba, that's government-owned. any risks in doing business in cuba? >> huge huge.
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even if not an american company. cuba could be doing business with many countries in the world and when you're there few international business as all because it's extremely difficult to do business there. hiring employees, you have to go through the cuban government. they decide salaries, who's going to work for you. emblematic of how difficult is-it-is to make business decisions there and the audience here is pretty aware of that but at the same time they're convinced that the tide is changing, and that there's going to be opportunities there as time moves forward. >> no one better to discuss this than michelle caruso-cabrera. thanks soch. >> good to see you. turning to a weather alert. march didn't exactly go out like a lamb. hail pelted parts of the country. look at this picture. the national weather service receiving more than 100 hail reports in the south. apparently it's raining, hailing and there are coins, also -- that's a joke. just a comparison. severe weather expected to hammer that region to the midwest today. it's coming ahead of a cold
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front moving east. bill karins joins me with more. bill what is going on? did you see that? the size of that hail? >> everything would be different if it was raining money. right? >> really. that is like the bigger the better. right? >> exactly. looked like usually people take a dime the measurements for hail dime quarter, golf ball baseball, softball. usually when they get a piece, compare it let everyone know the size. yesterday all of these yellow dots by the way were large hail reports. a lot in northern georgia, alabama. late last night oklahoma city saw large hail and damaging winds. nothing horrible out there now. didn't have any tornadoes either yesterday, great. after 169 reports of hail. the worst weather in the country on april fools' day, sherman, texas, lightning strikes, heavy downpours. passes in 20 minutes, all done. this afternoon, severe weather threat, right through the heartland here. starting dallas oklahoma city but the worst of it where we expect the largest hail to be will be up here from omaha through areas around lincoln,
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nebraska hastings and northern portions of kansas and then tomorrow watching severe weather shifting towards much more populated areas. st. louis, cincinnati, north of memphis and jose doesn't look like a setup for tornadoes. more damaging winds and hail we'll take any day over twisters. >> bill share incredible photos of the typhoon taken from space and posted. tell us about that. >> taken from the international space station, the great astronauts on twitter accounts put photos up there. a perspective we don't see. we have weather satellites but the angle this get over the top of these storms. a super typhoon, 150 mile-per-hour winds and unfortunately, this one is going to be heading towards the philippines. it looks like it's going to arrive in the philippines getting towards saturday. it should weaken a little bit by then. here's the storm, there's manila and the northern philippines. hit by a lot of big storms lately. the actual path of that takes
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it weakens it from what we consider a category 5 to probably a category 2 when it makes landfall. still a serious storm not a huge devastating blow for the whole country. >> a pretty large storm. right? not just concentrated right? >> the interesting part jose this is the third earliest we've ever seen two category 5 super typhoons in the pacific, the water temperatures in the pacific are much warmer than they should be and the result is storms like this. >> yeah. thank you soch. good to see you. talking about a big step forward for tracking hate crimes against sik and other americans. and accused of killing odin lloyd, hernandez. at some point coach bill belichick is expected to take the stand. watching the trial and i'll speak with a legal expert in the next hour. ♪ at mfs, we believe in the power of active management. every day, our teams collaborate around
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a major step forward in fighting hate crimes in the united states. lawmakers announced last week for the first time hate crimes committed against sikh hindu, tried. a rampage at a sikh temple in wisconsin that left six dead. joining me now director for the coalition, rajib. thanks for being with me. >> thanks jose. >> why are hate crimes tracked now only? why not doctorbefore? >> the fbi has been keeping hate crime statistics since 1991 but nerve her a mechanism for keeping track against sikhs, hindus and african-americans. in the post-9/11 environment members have been subjected to quite a lot of violence and discrimination.
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and it's really a million dollar question for us as to why the fbi wasn't keeping track of hate crimes against our communities. >> yeah and there is so much i guess, misinformation on these communities. the sikh community is one of the most tolerant you know positive communities in the united states and yet people don't understand and fear them for some reason? >> the revealing stay stereotype, if someone wears a turn they're somehow associated with al qaeda. as it turns out the overwhelming majority of people in the unite who wear turbans are sikhs and the sikh turban stands for core sikh values including respect for all, dignity for all people and our core belief in university equality. >> talk to me about the importance of tracking hate crimes against these communities. why is it so important? >> for several reasons. i think it's important for people to remember that you can't address any kind of policy
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issue unless you're measuring it. we keep metrics on economics, economic indicators, like gdp, unemployment, to help policymakers decide where to allocate resources where to make adjustments. we keep statistics on crime to spot trouble areas, and come up with solutions. so i think it's important from a policy perspective to be able to diagnose problems and then be able to craft solutions for them. and one other significant benefit of keeping hate crime statistics is that all of this is tied to training and so because of the changes that the fbi has made thousands of law enforcement agents around the country, police and so forth, will receive training on the sikh community, on arab americans, on hindu americans and will better understand how these communities are susceptible to hate crimes and oshie time do a better job investigating hate crimes against our communities and
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prosecuting them. >> i want to learn more about the sikh community myself. there's so much we need to learn. to learn more about that community as well. thanks for being with me. still ahead, you may think alligators are the most dangerous predator in the everglades everglades, think gone. pythons are endangering the ecosystem. this is a serious story, they're huge everywhere and eating everything. we are going to talk about that next. in new york state, we're reinventing how we do business so businesses can reinvent the world. from pharmaceuticals to 3d prototyping, biotech to clean energy. whether your business is moving, expanding or just getting started... only new york offers you zero taxes for 10 years with startup ny business incubators that partner companies with universities, and venture capital funding for high growth industries. see how new york can grow your business and create jobs. visit ♪ turn around ♪ ♪ every now and then i get a little bit hungry ♪ ♪ and
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slithering assignment. >> reporter: florida's everglades are home to alligators spoon bills, and unfortunately burmese pythons. a just released study from university of florida confirms pythons like this record 17 foot snake are up ending this fragile ecosystem. captured wild marsh rabbit were fixed with radio transmitters and released. researchers tracked the signals. an astonishing 77% of marsh rabbit turned up in the bellies of hungry pythons. >> i was not expecting pythons to have the level of impact we saw in this study at all. >> so rabbit breed like rabbit. you would think a python would wipe them out. >> precisely. >> reporter: in port st. lucie, it wasn't radio collared rabbit but rather pet cats. >> saw the snake wrapping around
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the cat, it was just squishing it. >> reporter: police captured the python. >> solid muscle. >> reporter: it was 12 feet long. data collected and analyzed in the study is the first ever its kind if as scientists believe there are up to 100,000 of them in the everglades this study suggests a domino effect. these exotic snakes are competing for the same food animals that belong here usually eat. >> we know that that environment will change as a function of loss of mammals here. >> reporter: how did the burmese pythons get here? it is believed someone released a pet snake because it grew too large to keep at home. >> ideally we would like to get rid of this animal does not belong here. it is an exotic invasive. if that's not possible figure out a way to mitigate effects that it has on the ecosystem. >> the fear is they take over all of this. >> yes. >> reporter: in one documented case of python versus king of the jungle the python won, but
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then when it swallowed the gator, it exploded. now the explosion of python in the everglades could be trouble for everyone involved. >> watch out! >> exploding pythons. now i have seen it all. a story only nbc kerry sanders can cover. i was talking to an everglades ranger recently he said all of the deer and rabbit that you used to see all the time in the everglades are not there, the snakes are really causing a problem. hopefully don't bring any to the bureau here any time soon. coming up on "the rundown," watching and waiting on negotiations on iran. and heated debate over religious freedom bills. we will talk with the president of butler university who has been sounding off since the controversy began. and today's five things is no joke. unlike this online ad from honda, the car maker unveiled
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they're close to some agreement, what would hold it up. >> reporter: close to agreement is not agreement. we have to have caution. we expect a press statement. when you listen to representatives from various countries, you get various positions on how close exactly they are. here is what we do know. we do know that the president spoke late last night via teleconference with john kerry, secretary of state, as well as the energy secretary for an update. he has said what senior white house officials said all along, no deal is better than a bad deal. timing is one of the issues that's still out there. for example, the united states which is facing congress on the 13th of april would like any sanctions or would like any changes in the nuclear program, push back on the nuclear program to happen quickly. the iranians would like sanctions lifted quickly something the president said is not going to happen. those are just a couple of
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sticking points. one of the things that's complicated about this is that as one piece seems to move into place, other pieces can move. so we will see if within the next several hours we get that statement which we are expecting. i think it is worth pointing out, these are two countries that have barely spoken for 30 35 years, there's been zero trust. getting them in the end to come together and say yeah here is something that we have that we can work on in some depth in the next three months was always going to be fraught and remains complicated at the 11th hour. >> could be just a statement saying even though we said end of march, we are going to continue until june. we don't know. >> reporter: there have been reports they could even extend it a few more days. we will see what happens. >> kris jansing, thank you so much. i want to bring in richard engel, our foreign correspondent in tel aviv this morning. good morning. we heard from the prime minister of israel today, he says a deal is shaping up in switzerland
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would endanger the world. strong words. >> reporter: he had very strong words. he has been incredibly outspoken on this issue, and prime minister netanyahu who just won re-election here spoke a few hours ago and quoted the iranian military as saying the destruction of israel is nonnegotiable, but putting iran on the threshold of being a nuclear power apparently is negotiable. so he clearly does not like what's going on in switzerland, doesn't believe there are going to be any guarantees that would prevent iran from breaking out, becoming a nuclear armed state, a state with a nuclear weapon. and israel has a different view on what should be happening in switzerland. what israel believes should happen according to a senior member of the government we
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interviewed is a program to convince iran to dismantle its nuclear program, not a negotiation in which the program is frozen in place with some sort of safeguards which israel doesn't believe will be very effective. >> that's not going to happen apparently. but i want to change topics ask about what's going on in iraq. officials say the troops lib rated tikrit. how big is that and what's the next step? >> reporter: liberated parts of tikrit. moved to the center of tikrit. u.s. officials say there are still isis pockets in tikrit. it is significant because it is a large city the first big urban area that the iraqi combined forces are trying to take on and drive isis out, and it is a test case of the very
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complicated strategy under way to try and attack isis because you have the iranian military providing a lot of technical support, iranian backed militia doing a lot of fighting. the iraqi army involved in the fight, and u.s. military providing air support. four different organizations all involved in a battle to take on isis and they have apparently reached the center of tikrit but still pockets of resistance. what's going on in switzerland, how it is seen in tel aviv and what's happening in iraq are not disconnected. one of the reasons that israel and other arabs and other states, including arab states don't want to see iran succeed in negotiations is they see iran as behaving aggressively on the world stage. they see iran expanding its power in iraq through its militia, expanding power in yemen, having a lot of influence
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over events in syria, and they see while iran is expanding militarily on the ground that a deal reached with the u.s. and switzerland would only be rewarding aggressive behavior. >> richard engel, thank you so much. appreciate your time. let's talk more about the talks. i am joined by special correspondent with the daily beast. michael, good morning. >> hi jose. >> you say we shouldn't did i lewd ourselves thinking it will lead to changes regarding iran's behavior. explain that. >> you hear sometimes from administration officials and other supporters of the deal that if we strike this deal with iran, they hope it will change iran's behavior change the nature of the regime that it will modernize in certain other ways, and i don't think all of that is true. now, i support getting a deal for other reasons, for reasons for the deal on its own terms,
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but i don't think we should be under any illusion that it is going to change the regime in any ways for the better. they do all of the things richard engel said they do and deal or no deal i think they're going to continue to do those things. >> are they going to be strengthened if they get a deal certainly the optics in the middle east will be that iran is becoming a bigger and bigger player, in the future they may have some access to nuclear weaponry 10 15 20 years down the road. is that going to change optics for folks that live in the middle east and regimes there seeing iran growing in influence, taking a bigger footprint, now having agreement with the united states. >> very well may. it is the middle east. there aren't any good options, there are bad options and worse options. let me flip it jose put it to you this way. if there's no deal what's iran going to do with regard to nuclear ambitions? is it going to drop them no. it is going to pursue them presumably all the more without any international monitoring without the five or six other countries talking to them
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trying to negotiate terms with them. you can easily argue, plausibly argue they'll get to nuclear weaponization capability faster without a deal than with a deal. now, what's everybody going to do when that happens? >> but michael, if it is p5+1 and that group of nations continues saying we tried, the deal wasn't acceptable for us we are going to continue with sanctions, iran is not coming to the table because they like kerry or like the united states they're coming to the table because they think they can get something out of it and they're hurting. >> yeah, they are hurting, and more sanctions might hurt them more. i have been talking to some experts the past couple weeks. one said to me there's only one reason rouhani was permitted to win the election, and that was to cut the deal and get the sanctions lifted. so you're right, that's absolutely what they want and more sanctions might make it tougher on them but is more
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sanctions have them stop backing up hasan and hezbollah, i don't think so. >> with sanctions, without sanctions, they've got their mission orders in place. michael, pleasure to see you. thanks for being with me. appreciate your time. >> thank you, appreciate it. now to other big developing news we are following this morning, look at this video into the newsroom. recovery efforts at the crash site of germanwings flight 9525 in the french alps. teams continue working at the site. this is a pretty large part of the fuselage there, we have seen small parts in the videos in the past this is the largest one we have seen. ceos of germanwings and parent company lufthansa arrived near the area this morning, they laid flowers, paused for a moment to remember 150 people that died a week after the co-pilot is believed to have intentionally crashed the plane. >> just very very sorry that such a terrible accident could have happened in lufthansa where
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we put so much focus on safety. we sorry for the losses that occurred and there's just no words to express this. >> the lufthansa ceo declined to take questions about the co-pilot lubitz and reports that he suffered from depression in 2009. good morning. what more did the ceo say or didn't say at the news conference? >> reporter: they looked generally moved as you could see, said sorry to the families many times. said they won't let families alone, they want to turn the area into a mourning site for them to come any time they want in the future. they promise to restore that beautiful countryside that was badly effected by the air crash. they also said that while we learn every day a little more
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about what happened, about causes of the accident it will take a long time before we finally learn about the full extent of what really happened on that day. perhaps the most significant part of that what they didn't say. they refused to answer nbc's questions on what they really the extent of what they really know about the medical and mental history of andreas lubitz' past during the training period in which we learned he went through a severe episode of depression jose. >> thank you so much for being with me. as developing news as we go to break, just learning from arkansas governor ace a hutchinson in the next hour his state joins the growing controversy over religious freedom. we will breakdown differences between the arkansas and indiana bills at the center of the debate. and the president of butler university in indiana is with me.
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developing now on "the rundown," we're just learning we will hear from arkansas governor asa hutchinson in the next hour as his state steps into the same controversial spotlight as indiana, passing its own version of religious freedom bill tuesday. in indiana, governor mike pence is calling for a fix to its own religious freedom law by the end of the week. to talk more about the situation in indiana, major voice in the conversation president of butler university located in indianapolis. thank you for being with me.
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>> good morning, how are you doing, jose. >> good thanks. yesterday you came out strongly against the law. why? >> well the law or at least interpretation of the law, right now seems like a lot of people are interpreting to whatever might fit their agenda, but it went against core values of butler university. our university was founded in 1855 by an abolitionist he believed that everyone regardless of gender or race deserved an excellent education, as a 20th successor to him, i add sexual orientation and religion to that list as well. when it goes against people's perceptions or beliefs around this, we felt a need to step forward. >> it is interesting. you talk about the impressions about the law or interpreting the law. will you be satisfied with a fix the governor is asking for or do you think the bill needs to be you know wiped off the books. >> well it is at least encouraging that we moved from
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last week to this week to some recognition that something has to be done. as someone in the state being effected by this our institution being effected by it we want to be optimistic that state legislature and governor are able to take action to address it but my concern right now is that the noise level has risen to such a height and on both sides of the argument here that i am not sure anything short of stepping back and starting it again is going to fix it. as a university president, my role by the way isn't to get on the political soap box, but to help bring people together to try to mediate the conflicts. so i'm willing to offer butler university and the resources, our faculty, our campus to bring people together. if we have an issue here that needs to be addressed when it comes to religious freedom, if we have an issue that has to be addressed with respect to
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assuring that everyone is given appropriate protection, let's do it on our campus. and i tell you what i'll pay for lunch. >> the governor said and certainly the leader of the majority said they want that fix to be very clear and define what exactly the law can and cannot do. obviously a big event happening this weekend not far from the campus, the final four. if your butler team had made it this year, hope they make it in the future would you have allowed them to play? >> oh, my god. absolutely we would allow them to play. i think people are overreacting in believing that somehow or another the state is not open for business or encouraging. we are welcoming everyone to indianapolis. we put on a great show when people visit our city and i really hope people understand that there's a lot of noise out there about this thing, but the reality is our people are welcoming and open to everyone. that's what you're going to see this weekend with the final four here. >> when are you going to be in
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the final four? >> we're going to be in it next year, we had a little slip. there was a little school up north in indiana, notre dame. i think we have a great team. we have a coach under contract for awhile longer now, and we're excited about the future. >> next year when you're on the final four i will run this tape back, and i will have you back and we will talk about this. >> i would be more than glad. i would rather be at a tournament than sitting here doing this. look forward to meeting you next year when we're there. thank you very much, jose. >> butler university president james danko. appreciate it. emma margolin joins me. what are we expecting from asa hutchinson today? >> last we heard from him, he said he would sign the religious freedom restoration act which is similar to the controversial legislation in indiana. we don't know. last we heard it was prior to this massive back lash we have seen in indiana. we don't know if that's going to
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prove persuasive on governor hutchinson. everybody will be watching at 11:30 eastern to see what he says. >> in the past he was clear he would sign this. >> right, but he has been very adamant about wooing tech talent to the state, we have seen tech leaders be the most outspoken opponents to the religious freedom measures. we saw walmart, a massive employer based in arkansas come out against the bill urging him to veto it. he could be looking at what's happening in indiana to governor pence and say i don't want any part of this. >> we will see at 11:30 eastern time. thanks for being with me. up next we will zoom through today's other top stories, including charges of the man accused of carrying out a knife attack to the ambassador to south korea. and the sierra snow pack a record low, thanks to the california drought. we have much more on this on "the rundown." ♪ turn around ♪ ♪ every now and then i get a little bit tired ♪ ♪ of craving something that i can't have ♪ ♪ turn around barbara ♪ ♪ i finally
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ambassador lippert attacker and the sierra snow pack. let's zoom through some of the top stories. the opposition party has democratically taken control from the ruling party. former military dictate or beat out good luck jonathan. he was already deposed and jailed more than three years. a man accused of attacking mark lippert with a knife last month in seoul faces charges of attempted murder. the 55-year-old was indicted earlier today. charged with attacking a foreign envoy. lippert was stabbed with a ten inch knife on march 5th. he receives cuts on the left arm and hand. he opposes the south korean u.s. military drills. more dire water news for
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california. the snow pack at the sierra nevada has a water content lower than any year on record and that goes back to 1950. that's according to the manual snow survey conducted by department of water resources. the water content has gone down each month since this winter's first survey at the end of december. the snow pack is usually at its peak on the 1st of april. this is very concerning. we are going to keep covering this. let's go to wall street. stocks are lower on disappointing economic reports this morning. cnbc mandy drury is here. >> good morning to you, jose. weaker than expected report on private sector employment from the adp, and doesn't necessarily mean the official payroll support on friday will be bad, it is not a perfect correlation, but nonetheless making traders nervous. obviously if labor conditions are worsening at the same time as the fed moves closer to pulling the punch bowl away
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doesn't bode well for the economy. if jobs numbers continue to disappoint, maybe the fed won't move as early as some think. we have to wait and see on that. in other news website host internet domain registrar go daddy started to trade this morning. priced the ipo at 20 bucks, above the range of 17 to 19 per share. last time i checked, stock was up 30%. nice pop there in the start of trade. gives the company a valuation of about $4.5 billion. there you go. go daddy. they're all cheering as they start trade. >> or as you say in south florida, go poppy. that's a different story. thanks good to see you. coming up a new day a day after new england patriots owner robert craft took the stand. even more high profile testimony is expected in the murder trial of aaron hernandez. and a developing story out of iran not focused on nuclear
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with safety shield technologies. the only thing left to fear is you imagination. nissan. innovation that excites. developing now, testimony continues at the aaron hernandez murder trial in massachusetts. a case expected to wrap up next week. former patriots football star is accused in the 2013 murder of odin lloyd. i am joined by legal analyst, host of judge faith, faith jenkins. pleasure to see you. >> good morning. >> we are hearing from a former friends of hernandez, alexander bradley, answered questions outside the jury's presence. he is suing hernandez claiming he shot him in the face in 2013. the prosecution is barred from mentioning it the defense doesn't want him to testify at all. what's going on? >> they're concerned about this
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coming into the trial. aaron hernandez is on trial for one murder as you know he is accused of two other murders and shooting this particular person. so the judge is concerned about all of this coming in and tainting the jurors' expectations. want them to focus on this trial and not other things aaron hernandez has done in the past prior bad acts. the judge has told both parties they can't bring up prior bad acts, they want jurors to focus and determine his guilt or innocence based on the facts of this case. >> this trial set to wrap next week. from what you've seen so far, how's it going? >> i think the prosecutors have done a pretty good job here. this is a circumstantial case. they don't have a murder weapon they don't have an eyewitness that says aaron hernandez pulled the trigger, but they have this tremendous time line that they have laid out. and they have a number of witnesses that come in including robert craft who testified yesterday that aaron
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hernandez offered an alibi, told him that he was at the club at the time odin lloyd was killed and the jurors now know that's not true based on video surveillance and the time line that's been built. even a couple days after odin lloyd was killed aaron hernandez lied about his whereabouts. that's not good for him. >> let's talk about the other high profile case in massachusetts, a murder trial of boston marathon bombing suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev. the defense rested yesterday. closing arguments are set for monday. how do you see it? >> well it is very interesting. the defense only called about four witnesses. they were all evidence gatherers, clearly going forward with their theory of the case that yes, he committed this horrible crime but he was manipulated by his brother. his brother was the master mind. that's clearly what they're focusing on. they expect there to be a conviction in this case but apparently what they're focusing on is they don't want him to get
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the death penalty. that's how they have gone forward with their defense in this case. certainly is a stark contrast to what prosecutors have done. they called a number of witnesses, have done a great job showing of death, destruction, and extreme chaos this defendant and his brother caused. >> faith jenkins, thanks for welcome me. former governor martin o'malley is courting the elizabeth warren vote. he kortd voters. on morning joe, senator warren said she will be tough on all candidates to stand up to wall street. >> you see her doing these sort of things that she hasn't been willing to do. >> hasn't declared hasn't laid out what she's going to run on that's what we need to see. i want to be clear, i think this is what everybody should be talking about, democratic or republican. >> will you push her? >> i am going to push everybody,
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do i not look like i am going to push? >> political editor for the boston globe joins me. pleasure to see you. >> thanks for having me today. >> thanks. what does martin o'malley gain on this trip to new hampshire? >> what he gained is the opportunity to meet with new hampshire voters. remember it is a very small state, meeting activists, people involved in the party can help a candidate get a bump in the poll. we have the opportunity to chat with them and stake out a new message for himself, which is pretty much the left of hillary clinton now. >> elizabeth warren is repeating over and over she is not running, but support from her for someone like o'malley would make a difference. >> it would make a huge difference, iffy liz bet warren were to endorse anyone in the democratic party it would change the dynamic in iowa new hampshire, south carolina across the country. i don't think she's going to do that because she's elizabeth warren. even though she said no clearly
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over and over again, i can't help but think she probably likes the attention, when it comes to her progressive issues. >> just seems as though with or without warren it will be tough for anybody but hillary clinton to be able to be successful. she has such momentum going now. is there anybody out there that could really successfully challenge her? >> in new hampshire it will be very difficult. really the only candidate who could really challenge her in the granite state would probably be elizabeth warren and we know where she stands on this currently. otherwise, it is going to be very difficult. new hampshire many ways is her home on the primary calendar where she staged a dramatic come back that kept her going many states and many weeks. >> folks like joe biden who haven't said or implied much about whether he is interested or not it is kind of getting late in the game unless you
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have some ground work done. certainly biden would be a force. >> he would be a force. you're right, by this point in the campaign you need to have some kind of ground game some kind of already developed national following or fund-raising network to be able to match a campaign except if you're already holding national office like joe biden does. that said i think for joe biden to make an impact on the race because new hampshire is still really clinton country now, it would probably be in iowa where you have to make impact where hillary clinton didn't do well in 2008. >> thanks for being with me. appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> congrats on your new gig at the globe, by the way. >> oh, thanks. back to iran while we are talking about all eyes on the potential nuclear deal there's another potential deal that would mean a lot to some families in the united states focuses on attempts to secure the release of three americans being held by tehran. one of them is a former u.s.
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marine and an iranian american detained traveling in iran in 2011 convicted of spying for america and thrown in prison. more than three-and-a-half years later, he's still there. the president himself weighed in last month, calling on them to free he and two others. he requested deportation and renounces iranian citizenship, releasing this recording from inside prison. >> my iranian heritage and affinity for the iranian people will always be a part of me but i wish to have no ties to an organization that places so little value on my human rights and dignity and is willing to destroy an entire family for simple propaganda purposes. >> back home efforts to free him going on. and they've gotten high profile help includes tv personality montel williams who joins me this morning. >> thanks for doing this and talking about it like we did
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three months ago. we spoke about another marine left behind. we say we leave no soldier behind. right now, this marine has been left behind three-and-a-half years. >> he went to visit his grandmother, never been there before. he is american. >> he is an american. >> and goes to visit his grandmother, and this happens to him. >> let's get this straight. he went to visit his dying grandmother, and after being there they arrested him, convicted him, sentenced him to death for spying for the united states they repealed that now sentenced him for carrying on activities with another country. bottom line is this young man has been in prison three-and-a-half years a marine, being tortured. he has been tortured to the point, jose they whipped him, they beat him, deprived him of sleep, they abused him in ways we can't imagine. the worst one, they addicted him to lithium. why? they give him lithium in his food give it to him a few weeks, then deprive him of it so he goes through the wreched
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withdrawals. this is a marine. the president reached out, included him and the other two in discussions. i spoke to governor richardson this morning who is behind the scenes making attempt to see if they can tie it together with the talks. bottom line is he shouldn't be held hostage for a talk he should be let go. our government should do everything we can possibly to get him out now. i am asking everybody who is hearing this, #, freeamirnow. make sure the government knows it the president knows it and i have one more thing to say, jose. though the president may have asked someone in a discussion, the president, vice president, no one has gone to see amir's family. his father is dying here in the united states. and no one has gone to see his father. i can't believe that we can't even reach out from the state department, say look we are trying to do everything we can. we are not doing that. >> no one reached out to the family as far as the federal government. >> no. we had some discussions i
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believe with members of the state department but listen the president of the united states went to see pastor said went to see him and his family. why can't the vice president or joe biden or somebody see this family. also representative dan kildy is working hard behind the scenes we aren't getting the voices. there's no reason a marine is in prison in iran three years being tortured and nobody knows about it. >> this is important. the iranian government says although he has been tried in some secret court that no one, not even his or his lawyers are able to be in. >> correct. >> was tried there, what is he charged with being a spy for the united states. >> watch this. he had to renounce his iranian birth right just to let them know that i am not an iranian citizen. they've accused him of working with a foreign country, meaning he is an iranian working with the americans. he is an american. has worn our uniform.
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he served with distinction and honor, honorable discharge. everybody that knows him spoke the same way about him. we need to get that honorable marine home. >> pleasure to see you, my friend. >> thank you. after being tapped to replace jon stewart, trevor noah is under fire for not funny at all tweets. we will tell you why. and google is turning an april fool's prank into fun. instead of getting directions today, you get pacman. a chance to get them in the streets of your neighborhood. now find these guys to go to the everglades and get the pythons!
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tweets he posted in the past. the comedian and his employer have responded. craig melvin has more on the controversy. >> you dominate the world of economics, military power, obesity. >> trevor noah, south african funnyman that's going to replace jon stewart hasn't even started yet, already some fans aren't laughing. >> oh yeah, right. yeah. i got you. >> a few hours after landing the job, some sifted through his tweets and came across several eyebrow raising posts. like behind every successful rap billionaire is a double as rich jewish man. originally when men proposed they went down on one knee so if the woman said no, they were in the perfect upper cut position. sparking widespread outrage, many call him a sexist and antisemite prompting the 31-year-old to respond with a
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new tweet. to reduce my views to a handful of jokes that didn't land is not a true reflection of my character nor my evolution as a comedian. comedy central quick to respond issuing a statement saying he pushes boundaries is provocative, spares no one, himself included. the boundaries between funny and offensive have been tested a lot. at monday's justin beiber roast. >> all these rappers on stage, and martha stewart has done the most jail time. >> sunday night, jamie foxx criticism with this bruce jenner joke. >> he is doing a his and her duet all by himself. >> and earlier this year "snl" skit about joining isis that drew as many gasps as laughs. >> you be careful, okay? >> dad it's just isis. >> go back and watch one episode of "all in the family" and see
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whether comedy is getting meaner. are we becoming more sensitive? yes, we are. that's the deal. is that a good or bad thing? i don't know. i'm still going to tell my jokes. >> nbc's craig melvin reporting. "snl" cast members responded to criticism of that isis sketch saying freedom to mock is our greatest weapon. let's talk more about this controversy surrounding trevor noah. anchor for the hot list amy holmes, and director of african studies at lee high james peterson. you heard the comedian in dreg craig's report, are we getting more sensitive? >> i think we are. i read the tweets. i didn't think they were funny nor were they true. comedy is said to be the smuggler of great truths. i don't know how poking fun at overweight women or this bizarre preoccupation with jews in his neighborhood, i almost bumped a boy and i would have felt bad because i was driving a german
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car, you can say it crosses a line i would say it is not even funny. >> we can't even show tweets. we need humor perhaps now more than ever. he will build on jon stewart's great legacy. we hope he won't cross the line with jokes calling up anti-semitic stereotypes. where is that line? >> it is a thin line jose. what we are witnessing is trevor noah who is quite popular around the world shifting to a platform that's a much bigger platform where the stakes are much higher. i agree with amy that the best comedy, even when pushing those boundaries has some truth in it. i trust jon stewart, he created this forum of delivering the news in a certain way, he believes and comedy central believes trevor noah can do it.
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for anyone who didn't know who he was a couple days ago, now everybody knows who he is. >> any publicity is good publicity. but you know what i like to make fun of myself. i think i live in a world you can make fun of people and things, but not to injure not to -- when you talk about hit ago jewish kid with a car and hoping the car is okay those things are vile regardless of whether a funny person says it or in any context, i don't see the context you can say i am just pushing the envelope on this. >> and his tweets yesterday was -- he said you shouldn't judge me on these things i tweeted. but by the way, i also evolved from these views. so which is it trevor do you disown what you tweeted or are you telling us to ignore it completely. it didn't make sense. all of that said i don't think he should lose his job, but i
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think i have the right to make judgment about his sense of humor, whether i like it or don't. believe me we all judge every time we choose to laugh or not laugh. that's making judgment. >> james, when it is said and done it is about a comedy show on a comedy network and a comedian. on the other hand i think the big conversation as far as sensitivity, how we discuss each other, how we talk and make fun of each other. i think there's a lot of issues we need to be talking about. some things injure you on a more profound almost permanent way. >> that's right. words certainly hurt. yes, it is the comedy channel and all that. what jon stewart has done how millenials consume news has taken it beyond the scope of just comedy. there are unspoken rules for comedians about who they can sort of persecute in their jokes
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and a lot of times unfortunately has to do with what the identity is of the comedian. trevor is a person of color, parents from mixed heritage swiss and german on the dad's side, and by the unspoken rules, may think he has leeway to make jokes about jewish culture. that doesn't stomach well people need to respond the way they're going to respond. amy is right the discourse around these things are sometimes more important than the jokes themselves. i think it is a transition period for trevor noah. he will transition into this greater platform platform he never had exposure to he will have to make adjustment in terms of the comedy he puts out publicly with respect to that. >> james, amy, thanks for being with me. i enjoyed this conversation. >> thank you. coming up, i pity the fool. april fools day five things. viewers beware t may not be as
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here are five things april fools. number one, laughter is eternal. some believe it dates back to canterbury tales, 1392. who would have thought over 600 years later would be the world's number one trending topic. number two, money doesn't grow on trees, spaghetti does. 1957 bbc, a story about them harvesting spaghetti from trees left some viewers asking for tips. and the whopper, the ingredients
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were the same, they shifted to accommodate. number four told you as simple as effective. take the sugar bowl, out goes the sugar, in goes salt. enough to leave one producer's mother salty. and number five all roads or beaches lead to miami. not kidding you when i tell you making rounds is pit bull for mayor. what do you think of that? stranger things have happened in south florida. that wraps up "the rundown." thank you for the privilege of your time. see you tomorrow. know your financial plan won't keep you up at night. know you have insights from professional investment strategists to help set your mind at ease. know that planning for retirement can be the least of your worries. with the guidance of a pnc investments financial advisor, know you can get help staying on track for the future you've always wanted.
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i've just arrived in atlanta and i can't wait to start telling people how switching to geico could save them hundreds of dollars on car insurance. but first, my luggage. ahh, there it is. uh, excuse me sir? i think you've got the wrong bag. >>sorry, they all look alike, you know? no worries. well, car's here, i can't save people money chatting at the baggage claim all day. geico®. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. good morning, everyone. i'm tamron hall. this is "newsnation." we begin with breaking news. a day after indiana governor mike pence said he wants to clarify his state's religious freedom law, arkansas republican governor asa hutchinson is being forced to address a similar religious freedom bill passed by lawmakers in his state.
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governor hutchinson is set to have a news conference within the hour. looking at about 30 minutes from now. the governor previously said he would sign the religious freedom bill into law, but the nation's largest retailer is now weighing in urging the governor to veto that law in his state. in a statement yesterday, the ceo of walmart, based in arkansas, said the law, quote, threatens to undermine the spirit of inclusion present throughout the state of arkansas and does not reflect the values we proudly uphold. these religious freedom laws are now on the books in 21 states but the laws in indiana and arkansas are drawing more heat since anti-discrimination laws in those states do not protect sexual orientation. joining me now, benjamin hardy, associate editor with "arkansas times." interesting yesterday as we waited for governor pence to


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