tv MSNBC Live With Thomas Roberts MSNBC April 1, 2015 10:00am-12:01pm PDT
live," the fire storm of controversy over indiana's religious freedom law spreads to arkansas where a similar bill was poised to become law today, and the governor is speaking out against it. >> my son seth signed the petition asking me dad, the governor, to veto this bill. >> so we are also watching and waiting the negotiations over iran's nuclear future. it drags into another day. should the u.s. walk away from the already drawn-out talks? and an nypd detective is caught verbally abusing an uber driver and a passenger in the car captured it all on video. we start with the developing news out of arkansas where hours after the legislature passed its religious freedom bill the governor, asa hutchinson, is sending it back. he wants changes. >> my position is clear. i've asked them to remedy it. i've asked them to change the current law and i've asked them to recall it and change the language on it.
>> that decision just 24 hours after indiana governor mike pence asked legislators to send him clarification on their bill. "the indianapolis star" reporting the new language would set limited protections for lgbt residents. indiana's speaker addressed fixing the law on cnn this morning. >> we don't support discrimination. it was not the intent. my focus now is to fix that concern and we're extremely close to making that happen. >> so we're coverings latest developments in both states. nbc's john yang is reporting in indianapolis. nbc's sarah dallof is in little rock, arkansas. that's where we're going to start today. sarah, it was very unexpected to see the governor come out and say that he was not going to be signing this bill especially when all signs pointed to yes. >> yeah it was quite a surprising aboutface, thomas, especially since the governor had previously indicated he was prepared to sign this bill. so he's offering the legislature some options here. eertd
either they can recall and amend that bill or pass a follow-up measure that will mirror the 1993 federal religious freedom act. the governor did stop short of saying he will veto the bill in its current form if the legislature doesn't make these changes. but as we know in the past 24 hours, the governor has been facing increasing backlash from both the business and corporate community. we're talking about businesses like walmart based here in arkansas, and also from protesters who have been showing up here throughout the day. >> i was hurt that people that i live with felt that way, you know. arkansas, as i know arkansas it's a very tolerant accepting, loving place. and suddenly we elect these people that are the exact opposite. >> that gives you an idea of the frustration and the emotion people here are feeling. in about 45 minutes, there's going to be a rally here. it's going to include some
speakers, local business leaders, as well as some representatives. thomas, it's going to be interesting to see how quickly and if and how the legislature addresses these concerns. they were originally scheduled to adjourn tomorrow. back to you. >> so sarah, real quickly. specifically for arkansas, it only takes a simple majority to override the governor's veto. what happens if the governor doesn't get those changes? >> yeah he has a couple options. he can veto this bill which like you said just takes a simple majority to override that. he can also choose to not sign the law but let it go into effect effectively sending a message by not signing it. but his best bet here is really that they come to the table and they make these changes. he is facing a hard right base here in the legislature this year that up until this point they've gotten along pretty well. >> sarah, thanks so much. nbc's sarah dallof reporting in little rock. we want to bring in nbc's john yang live in indianapolis. john, bring us up to speed, the
latest developments from that state. >> well, right now at the state capitol behind me the republicans in the legislature are meeting, talking about trying to come up and agree on this fix that governor mike pence has asked for. i just spoke a little bit ago to an official from the republican leadership in the legislature who tells me there are still multiple drafts of this fix. they have not settled on a single solution. there's been a published report about one of them but they say they can't even say if that is one of the drafts on the table right now. it should be pointed out that the specific proposal that governor hutchinson wants taken out of the arkansas bill is in the indiana law that governor mike pence has signed. it's a provision that allows religious belief to be used as a defense in private lawsuits not involving the state. now, there's some legal analysts here in indiana saying they could -- people could use that
in a defense in a court if they're sued for not serve inging at a single-sex wedding because of their religious beliefs. it doesn't guarantee they'll win in court, but it's one more thing on their side in their argument. as the legislature races to try to fix this thing, there are some business people in indianapolis who feel that damage is has already been done but a lot of people still talking about cancelling businesses and trips here to indiana. >> john, real quickly, confirm or deny there's really a pizza shop that's speaking out saying it would not serve a gay wedding. it would serve gay customers, but it would not cater a gay wedding. i was confused. i know it's april fools' day. i want to make sure we have this correct. >> question not confirm it or deny it. an nbc news producer spoke on the phone with the owner, who would not answer any questions.
>> okay. very interesting. we'll continue to vet this. again, it's april fools' day. maybe someone's pulling our leg. john yang thank you, sir. much appreciated. coming up in a few minutes, we're going to talk to indiana senate democratic leader about where the legislature stands in creating that fix that the governor asked for. well the ceos of germanwings and parent company lufthansa visited the crash site of 9525 this morning. they laid flowers and paused for a moment to remember the 149 people who died when the co-pilot allegedly, deliberately crashed the jet into the mountains. lufthansa ceo vowed to support the families of the victims. >> i would like to also give my word to the victims that we don't only help this week. we want to help as long as help is needed. that's also my promise. >> now, their visit comes one day after the company disclosed that co-pilot andreas lubitz informed them of a previous
episode of severe depression in an e-mail. nbc's bill neely is live in a village near the crash site in france. you were very hard with your questioning, and they walked away from you at this press conference. exactly what did they know and when did they know it? >> well good afternoon, thomas. that is the key question. they came in somber mood and they are two ceos under great pressure. they came to thank the searchers, to lay a wreath to thank the people of france. i think the key section of the statement that he made was he said we're just very very sorry that such a terrible accident could have happened in lufthansa, where we put so much focus on safety. of course, quite how much focus on safety they put is at the very center of this. yesterday we learned that lufthansa received an e-mail in 2009 from andreas lubitz the
co-pilot, in which lubitz admitted that he'd had severe depression. now, as the ceo finished his statement, he began to turn on his heel and walk away. it was at that point that i began to ask him questions about that e-mail that lufthansa admitted it had received. >> how do you explain the 2009 e-mail from mr. lubitz? >> why did it take you so long to publish the e-mails? >> your employee crashed a plane. why are you refusing to take questions? >> well as you can see from that, he wouldn't answer. we went up to his car and tried to ask him again. and he simply wouldn't say a word. now, lawyers might say that was a very wise thing to do because he and lufthansa clearly face a lot of questions, many of those questions will first of all be from investigators. secondly they could be in court as well. lufthansa has set aside $300
million to cover the costs of this crash. its insurers have set aside that money. if it's shown in court that lufthansa was negligent in letting lubitz fly the plane that he crashed, lufthansa would face unlimited damages. so the future of the company and indeed the future of the ceo is very much in the balance. >> huge culpability. bill thank you sir. appreciate it. coming up in the next hour we're going to speak to the journalist who broke the story about reported cell phone video that was taken in the moments before the crash. now to the other big story we're following overseas. the deadline for a framework, an agreement between the u.s. and iran over nuclear weapons has come and gone. secretary of state john kerry is meeting again today with his iranian counterpart. the two men are trying to cobble together final details. and an announcement could come any time. sticking points remain over sanctions and future nuclear research. meantime in israel prime minister benjamin netanyahu is
hosting house speaker john boehner, and he's blasting the few details of the plan that have leaked so far. >> the concessions offered to iran in lausanne would ensure a bad deal that would endanger israel, the middle east and the peace of the world. now is the time for the international community to insist on a better deal. >> nbc's chief foreign correspondent richard engel is live for us in tel aviv. so richard, where do things stand as we speak? again, the deadline come and gone. >> i wish i knew frankly. if you listen to the russiasns and listen to the iranians they're sounding quite optimistic they're going to have some sort of framework agreement by the end of the day. it would basically be a political statement allowing the two sides to continue to negotiate. so a nonagreement or just an agreement to keep talking. if you talk to other countries,
the european capitals they are less optimistic that there will be even that kind of nonbinding resolution reached by the end of the day. so frankly, we don't know where we are, but what we do know is that israel several arab countries have come out very strongly against the entire process. they don't like what they are seeing in switzerland. they don't like the fact that iran is being allowed to, as they see it, set terms of this deal. they would very much like to see iran being pressured with sanctions, with the threat of military action and convincing iran to give up its nuclear program not to bargain away to keep a limited program with some sort of controls over it. controls that certainly here in tel aviv officials do not trust will be effective. >> richard, the other parallel story line that's taking part here is what's taking place in the iraqi city of tikrit. can you update us on that?
>> they're not unrelated because it is iranian militias that led this fight in tikrit. they were the vast majority of the ground troops were militia forces backed and led by iranian generals. they have now pushed their way into the center of tikrit. for the last several days they've been fighting with u.s. air support, which is an unusual dynamic, to say the very least. but there's still some isis pockets in other parts outside of tikrit. >> nbc's richard engel reporteding in tel aviv for us. great to see you. thank you. we have this developing story we're following out of illinois. there's a manhunt on for an inmate who escaped from the county detention center there. saying he attacked a guard. it's a convicted murderer. cameron taylor getting away from the jerome cops detention center
in a 2012 chevy equinox. police are offering a $5,000 reward for his successful arrest. coming up indiana governor mike pence says he's working to protect lgbt rights but does his voting record actually back him up? plus uber outrage. >> i don't know what [ bleep ] planet you think you're on right now. >> i'm here. >> we're going to bring you the latest on the nypd detective who appeared to berate an uber driver over a driving infraction. all caught on camera. and you know what day it is. yes, it's hump day. but it's also april fools. from selfie shoes to google's stuffed smart panda. we've rounded up the internet's best attempts to pull one over on you today. is it our insightful strategies that make edward jones one of the country's biggest financial services firms? or 13,000 financial advisors who say thank you? it's why edward jones is the big company that doesn't act that way.
real transformations can happen as much inside a person as out. that's why you should take the listerine® 21 day challenge. use listerine® and over 21 days you'll experience a transformation. take the listerine® 21 day challenge and start your transformation today. i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement insurance plans it could save you in out-of-pocket medical costs. call now to request your free decision guide. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. [ male announcer ] you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital
that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and virtually no referrals needed. see why millions of people have already enrolled in the only medicare supplement insurance plans endorsed by aarp. don't wait. call now. (vo) maggie wasn't thrilled when ben and i got married. i knew it'd take some time. and her sensitive stomach didn't make things easier. it was hard to know why... the move...her food...? so we tried purina cat chow gentle... ...because it's specially formulated for easy digestion. she's loved it ever since. and as for her and ben... ...she's coming around. purina cat chow gentle. one hundred percent
back now with the developing news out of indiana. more fallout in the wake of the state's religious freedom law and how governor mike pence has been handling the major backlash we've seen. frances rivera here with a look at governor pence's voting record and what may lay in the details of the past. >> he wrote an op-ed staying, quote, i abhor discrimination yet his voting record shows he has a record of going against gay rights. let's take a look at his voting record. as a congressman, pence voted no on the employment nondiscrimination act in 2007. and here's what he had to say then on the house floor. >> the problem here is that by extending the reach of federal law to cover sexual orientation, employment discrimination protections in effect can wage war on the free exercise of religion in the workplace.
>> now let's look at discrimination in the military based on sexual orientation. in 2010 president obama signed a landmark law repealing "don't ask, don't tell." the law that banned gay men and women from serving openly. well, as that repeal was being debated, then-congressman pence voted no. here's what he told our colleague chris jansing ahead of that vote. >> there's no question that to mainstream homosexuality within active duty military would have an impact on unit cohesion would have an impact on recruitment, would have an impact on readiness. >> and finally, a look at governor pence's record on same-sex marriage. in 2006 a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage failed on the house floor, and here's what then-congressman pence had to say. >> i believe first, though marriage should be protected because it wasn't our idea. several millennia ago, the words were written that a man should leave his father and mother and clooef to his wife and the two
should become one flesh. it wasn't our idea. it was god's idea. >> all right. thomas, that was in 2006. certainly a lot has changed in indiana since then. same-sex marriage became legal last year with that appeals court ruling. and just last year governor pence told our colleague chuck todd that marriage in the state of indiana should be up to the states. >> well it'll be interesting to see how it all plays out with the fix and how quickly they can get the fix done if that's going to happen this week before the final four. countdown is on. thank you. joining me now, the democratic leader of the indiana state senator tim lanan. you say republicans are going to fix it. what fix would make you happy? >> of course we've said all along as you just pointed out that the best and oldest course of action is simply repeal this law then move further,
affirmatively to protect all people in the state of indiana by adding to our existing indiana civil rights act the category of lbgt or certainly sexual orientation. so there's stated wide protection. that's what we need to send a bold message to indiana. that's what the people of indiana want. >> sir, are you grateful then that this law was enacted so that the people of indiana could finally get potentially an lgbt law that protects them? because that's basically the catalyst that's gotten you here. >> yes, well you raise a good point. i've said several times here in the past the one silver lining the one thing that really has been gratifying to me is the grassroots effort that's come about here and the outrage in terms of us ever being portrayed as a state that would want to discriminate. it just goes to show how far people have come across the nation but certainly here in the state of indiana. they're now, i think, saying to us, let's prove to the nation
that as hoosiers, we believe that discrimination is wrong. let's put sexual orientation into our civil rights act and let's show the whole world that in indiana we do not discriminate. >> i know a lot of great americans who love the hoosier state and the values that you represent certainly the attention and the heat is on with the final four coming your way this weekend. but you've said you warned gop leadership about the blowback that would come from this law. i'm curious how that conversation went and what your republican colleagues said back to you when you said you know what, this is not going to go over well. >> well you know that happened by and large on the floor of the senate when we were in final debate upon the bill at various stages. and we said this sends the wrong message about the state of indiana. this is not reflective of how indiana really is. we're a friendly welcoming state. the last thing we want to do is send a message other than that. quite frankly, they just simply ignored it, shown by the votes.
we had amendments to tone this down, to make it a little bit of a better bill a bill which would simply -- certainly seem less intolerant. again, defeated on a party line vote. that's in the past. that's water under the bridge now. now we do need to take the affirmative steps to really show to the world that as hoosiers we welcome everyone. >> what's your timeline? >> well things are moving rapidly, obviously. the governor has asked for some action by the end of this week. i think it would be better for us to not necessarily be driven by an artificial deadline like that but for us to at least come out and to say that we will take the steps that will be necessary to implement a statewide law to protect against discrimination, against members of the gay community, lbgt. and so that doesn't necessarily mean we have to do it before the end of this week.
we've got a session that doesn't end until april 29th. we think we could slow down a little bit, do the right thing, say now we're committed to doing that if we need to for purposes of this upcoming weekend, and then move to really putting in place comprehensive legislation which will protect all hoosiers and everyone coming to the state. >> all eyes are watching. >> yes, they are. >> thank you. indiana state senator tim lanane. we're going to talk to a member of congress on why members of the lgbt community are still denied protections in areas of every day life. and breaking news out of switzerland, where germany's foreign minister has reportedly told his delegation and reporters they're going to meet again tonight to hear iran's answer to new compromised proposals and stay one more night. that would mean no announcement is likely today. separately a u.s. senior
official told our andrea mitchell it's less likely tonight they'll have anything to announce. we'll be right back. . and the children are left wondering . . . what else to to with: these . . . ♪ hands . . . ♪ ♪ welc ome back: hands ♪ you got it booking right. ♪ booking.com booking.yeah ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ great rates for great rides. geico motorcycle see how much you could save.
there's nothing more romantic than a spontaneous moment. so why pause to take a pill? and why stop what you're doing to find a bathroom? with cialis for daily use, you don't have to plan around either. it's the only daily tablet approved to treat erectile dysfunction so you can be ready anytime the moment is right. plus cialis treats the frustrating urinary symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently, day or night. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long-term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision or any symptoms of an allergic reaction stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. why pause the moment? ask your doctor about cialis for daily use. for a free 30-tablet trial go to cialis.com
in new york state, we're reinventing how we do business so businesses can reinvent the world. from pharmaceuticals to 3d prototyping, biotech to clean energy. whether your business is moving, expanding or just getting started... only new york offers you zero taxes for 10 years with startup ny business incubators that partner companies with universities, and venture capital funding for high growth industries. see how new york can grow your business and create jobs. visit ny.gov/business (son) oh no... can you fix it, dad? yeah, i can fix that. (dad) i wanted a car that could handle anything. i fixed it! (dad) that's why i got a subaru legacy. (vo) symmetrical all-wheel drive plus 36 mpg. i gotta break more toys. (vo) the twenty-fifteen subaru legacy. it's not just a sedan.
it's a subaru. a member of the new york city police department could be in very hot water after a video of his encounter with an uber driver has gone viral. frances has the details on this one. really shocking stuff. >> really shocking when you watch this video, thomas. in fact it has the new york civilian complaint review board looking into this video that appears to show an nypd detective berating an uber driver after a traffic accident. a passenger in the backseat recorded the profanity-based rant with his cell phone camera. at one point, the plain clothed detective appears to mock the driver's accent. >> stop it with your mouth. stop it with your for what sir. stop it with that [ bleep ]. how long you been in this country? >> almost two years. >> almost how long? >> two years. >> two years? the only reason you're not in handcuffs going to jail and getting summoned in the precinct
is because i have things to do. that's the only reason that's not happening. because this isn't important enough for me. you're not important enough. >> all right. so the detective went on to issue the driver a ticket. the nypd says the detective has not been suspended and is still on active duty. the civilian complaint review board says it will interview one of the passengers today, and uber issued a statement that reads in part the behavior in the video is wrong and unacceptable. we appreciate the nypd investigating the incident. and we also reached out to the passenger in fact backseat who shot and posted the video. he declined to comment on this incident saying quote, i am worried that any time i spend on camera is not spent considering the video or discussing the issues. posting the video is my statement. in his youtube post he said the dispute began over the detective parking without using his blinker, thomas. >> all right. so everybody else can decide how it rolls out. very interesting. all captured on tape. you'd have to think that cop saw
the guy back there. >> normally they say no cameras, turn it off. interesting to see. >> all right. frances, thank you so much. and straight ahead, if congress had passed a decades' old bill to protect lgbt americans and their right on a federal level, could all this controversy over statewide religious freedom laws have been avoided? we're going to ask a congressman pr rhode island when we come back. plus, new developments in the corruption case against new jersey senator robert menendez. know your financial plan won't keep you up at night. know you have insights from professional investment strategists to help set your mind at ease. know that planning for retirement can be the least of your worries. with the guidance of a pnc investments financial advisor, know you can get help staying on track
for the future you've always wanted. you can call me shallow... but, i have a wandering eye. i mean, come on. national gives me the control to choose any car in the aisle i want. i could choose you... or i could choose her if i like her more. and i do. oh, the silent treatment. real mature. so you wanna get out of here?
♪ at mfs, we believe in the power of active management. every day, our teams collaborate around the world to actively uncover, discuss and debate investment opportunities. which leads to better decisions for our clients. it's a uniquely collaborative approach you won't find anywhere else. put our global active management expertise to work for you. mfs. there is no expertise without collaboration. welcome back everybody, to "msnbc live" with thomas roberts. here's what's happening. french prosecutors are asking the french paper "paris match" for a copy of a video reportedly shot inside the germanwings plane moments before it went down. we're going to speak to the reporter who broke that story coming up in the next hour. will they hand over the video? meanwhile, we just learned negotiations will continue one more night over iran's nuclear
program just as house speaker john boehner wraps up a lunch with prime minister benjamin netanyahu in jerusalem. the israeli leader reiterated he thinks the current proposal is a bad deal. sfwlmpblts and back in the u.s., officials at duke university are investigating a noose that was found hanging in the common area on campus overnight. in an e-mail to students this morning, duke's vice president for student affairs called it a hateful and stupid act. happening in arkansas protesters gathering at the state capitol to express their outrage over a religious freedom bill that was on the governor's desk for signing this morning. he's since sent it back to lawmakers to either recall or fix it. emma this was a surprise because so many people had figured the governor of arkansas had already said that this was going to be signed and now he's backtracking. how similar are the laws in indiana and arkansas and is the
backlash in indiana hutchinson's reasons why he's walking away? >> i think it's pretty clear the backlash in indiana is the main reason why governor hutchinson reversed course in saying that he would not sign the religious freedom restoration act currently on his desk. both of these laws explicitly recognize corporations as people who can claim religions. that would be something like a photographer who doesn't want to take pictures at a same-sex wedding ceremony. they could invoke this and use their own religious beliefs as a legal defense if they're sued for discrimination. that's the main thing we heard governor hutchinson speak out against, the main thing he wants to see changed in arkansas's version. >> one thing that was big was the fact that walmart made a statement. they came out. they're based in arkansas. they came out against this asking the governor not to sign it saying that this bill would undermine the spirit of
inclusion present throughout the state of arkansas. and there has been this back and forth between indiana's law, to the federal law that was signed by president clinton back in 1993. let's show the differences for everyone. indiana's law protects the exercise of religion of entities. that includes for-profit corporations. its protection of religious liberty can be invoked, but it's likely to be substantially burdened by government action. and it allows using exercise of religion as a defense between private parties. let's go down the key differences of where the distinctions need to be made especially for the comfort level of arkansas compared to indiana. >> well the federal version was really inspired by a case where a native american in oregon was fired for smoking peyote in line with his religious beliefs. that's really the spirit in which this federal version was enacted. it was designed to protect religious minorities from
unnecessary government intrusion. it has since been interpreted to inflict third-party harm on nonreligious entities such as customers of any kind of business like a same-sex couple who wants flowers for their wedding, for example, or employees of hobby lobby who want contraceptive coverage in line with the affordable care act. this law has really been understood to be something else by court opinions and that's why it's a little disingenuous when we hear supporters of the religious freedom restoration act in states saying they don't understand why this is so controversial if it had bipartisan support at the federal level. >> right. back in 1993. emma emma, great to see you. thank you so much. as we speak, there are people gathering in arkansas at the state house. there have been people protesting in indiana. it's prompting this renewed debate on whether the u.s. needs some kind of federal law to protect the lgbt community from discrimination.
in 2013 the senate passed the latest version of the two decades old nondiscrimination act. the bill would prevent employers from making hiring or firing decisions based on gender identity or sexual orientation. speak you are johner john boehner says all it will do is create frivolous lawsuits. congressman, this idea is not new. we have had efforts in washington to end lgbt discrimination in the workplace. it's been around so long that the lawmakers who first introduced this bill have passed. they're no longer with us. so how do you expect to make meaningful progress this time around? >> well, thomas thanks for having me on. what's very important is that this is a very different effort. my legislation, and i hope it will be a bipartisan bill. i'm working with senator merckly. it really approaches this issue in a spre hencive way. for the first time it says instead of just repealing "don't
ask, don't tell" and making progress on marriage equality and working with end to unemployment, we are saying you shouldn't be able to discriminate against members of the lgbt community period. add that term sexual orientation and gender identity to the list that we have in other parts of the federal statute on race, gender, religion. in other words, treat it the same way we do for existing civil rights laws. say you can't discriminate period. no longer sort of quarreling or fighting for one little right at a time but saying, you know what, to be free from discrimination is a basic american value. members of the lgbt community have the right to be free from discrimination in any context. so this bill will be a comprehensive approach to preventing discrimination in all of those contexts. many people have worked hard on this for many many years and have had some success in specific areas. instead, what we're saying as a community, as a country, that it's time we moved forward and
say, as we do with race and gender and religious backgrounds and ethnic origin, you can't discriminate based on gender identity or sexual orientation, period. >> i want to say, while you're working hard in d.c. to try to bring something forth, it seems like business corporations are a hell of a lot ahead of you in coming out in the protections needed for their own employees. and now -- i mean walmart came out asking the arkansas governor not to do this. walmart in arkansas. which is amazing. >> i think you're right. i think what we saw the backlash from the statute in indiana is really strong evidence that the country understands this issue. they understand the dangers of discrimination, how it hurts not only the individual that's discriminated against but the whole community, the whole state, and ultimately our country. when the bill is filed hopefully in early may, i think we'll see broad bipartisan support. we'll see business leaders, advocates all across can the
runt they are going to rally around this simple idea that you shouldn't be able to discriminate against people because of their sexual orientation or gender identity. the economic consequences of that are obvious. we're seeing that right now. but this is again a really comprehensive, holistic approach. >> we know the backlash that has been taking place in indiana, especially with businesses coming out against this law, taking their business out of indiana. now, the governor did not directly mention walmart in his statement today. but he did -- and this is what touched a lot of people -- spoke about his own son seth saying his son signed the petition against his son to veto this. seth is just an ally against anti-discrimination, but isn't it interesting how persuasive family can be when they're involved in the conversation? >> absolutely. and you know we benefit. it's not only important for the member of the lgbt community, but we rob the whole state or the whole country of the talent and ability of any person who's not allowed to realize their
full potential to live a life free from being discriminated against. it's not only in the interest of members of our community. it's in the interest of our whole country to be sure those basic princeiples of respecting each other, equality for everyone be honored. >> good luck with what you're trying to do there. we'll see and watch as you try to move some legislation out of d.c. well some of the potential 2016 presidential candidates are speaking out on religious freedom laws. frances takes a deep dive into their positions coming up. we're going to turn to california, where the state is suffering from an unrelenting drought. in the next hour california governor jerry brown will tour the sierra nevada mountain snow pack. electronic readings have shown the snow pack's water content is lower than any year on record dating back to 1950. miguel almaguer joins me now with more on this. how much of the state depends on water from those mountains? >> 30% of california gets its water from the mountains. that water is critical because it eventually melts and works its way into our reservoirs which are running dry across the
state. the governor is speaking in a very symbolic area. he'll be doing this at the snow pack measurement, which hasn't been this low in some 65 years. now, because of the low water content, all across california there are restrirkss in place. in many places, you can't get a glass of water at a restaurant or a hotel unless you ask for one. you won't automatically be served one. there's also limited days in terms of when you can water your lawn or even wash your car. many are calling for more strict guidelines to go into place. we're unsure what the governor will talk about in about 20 minutes or so. he is being pressured by many to kind of step up the pressure in california. many can say california is in a state of emergency facing severe drought conditions. nasa scientists say we are moving towards the driest period on record over the last 1,000 years. so this is certainly becoming more of an emergency, thomas. >> all right. we'll wait to see what the governor has to say coming up in the next 20 minutes or so. nbc's miguel almaguer reporting in los angeles. coming up religious freedom
never made with hydrogenated oil, oh, yeah... always made with real cream. the sound of reddi wip is the sound of joy. we return now to our top story and the fallout in the wake of indiana's religious freedom act, signed into law last week. this is without a doubt the first cultural fight early on in the 2016 presidential race. frances is back with a look at some of the 2016 hopefuls and what both sides have to say. not a cultural war that either side really wants. >> no but kind of a pattern when it comes to the gop contenders. starting with the 2016 hopefuls. here's what senator ted cruz of texas had to say on twitter. quote, i'm proud to stand with governor mike pence for religious liberty, and i urge americans to do the same. remember, cruz became the first official candidate for president just more than a week ago. former florida governor jeb bush spoke out about indiana's law in a radio interview.
here's what he told conservative host hew hewitt. >> governor pence has done the right thing. florida has a law like this. bill clinton signed a law like this at the federal level. this is simply allowing people of faith space to be able to express their beliefs, to have -- to be able to be people of conscience. i think once the facts are established, people aren't going to see this as discriminatory at all. >> and senator marco rubio of florida is weighing in as well. here is his take on the law speaking to fox news. >> the issue we're talking about here is should someone who provides a professional service be punished by the law because they refused to provide that professional service to a ceremony that they believe is in violation of their faith. i think people have a right to live out their religious faith in their own lives. they can't impose it on you in your life but they have the right to live it out in their own lives. when you're asking someone to do something or be punished by
you're fighting have religious liberty. >> we have wisconsin governor scott walker's take. quote, as a matter of principle, governor walker believes in broad religious freedom and the right for americans to exercise their religion and act on their conscience. now to dr. ben carson who said quote, it is absolutely vital that we do all we can to allow americans to practice their religious ways while simultaneously ensuring that no one's beliefs infringe upon those of others. as far as the possibility democratic contenders here, hillary clinton tweeted, sad this new indiana law can happen in america today. we shouldn't discriminate against people because of who they love #lgbt. and former maryland governor martin o'malley calls the law reprehensible saying i think it's shameful that presidential candidates in this day and age would try to give cover to a law that attempts to give license to discrimination of gay and lesbian people and goes on to say, this is just wrong. as far as those, thomas who have kept quiet, kentucky
senator rand paul new jersey governor chris christie. we haven't heard from them. you look at the pattern there with the exception of paul and christie, every gop hopeful out there for 2016 they are basically backing pence. you throw in bobby jindal as well rick santorum mike huckabee. >> you would think with the libertarian bend we would know where rand paul came down on this. we haven't heard from him. chris christie i think we have a good idea. we'll wait to see where it goes. frances, thanks. we have a lot more to get to in the next hour. i'm going to speak to the journalist from the paris match who broke the story about this alleged cell phone video that was taken on board germanwings flight 9525 before it went down. we're going to speak about what he says is on there. are they working actively with investigators? but first, a round up of the best april fools' pranks we've seen online today. this is no joke. ♪ ♪ ♪ (under loud music) this is the place. ♪ ♪ ♪ their beard salve is made from ♪ ♪ ♪ sustainable tea tree oil and kale... you, my friend, recognize when a trend
has reached critical mass. yes, when others focus on one thing you see what's coming next. you see opportunity. that's what a type e* does. and so it begins. with e*trade's investing insights center, you can spot trends before they become trendy. e*trade. opportunity is everywhere. whether you need a warm up before the big race... or a healthy start before the big meeting there's a choice hotel that's waiting for you. this spring, choose choice twice, get a night at no price at 1,500 hotels. book now at choicehotels.com push your enterprise and you can move the world. but to get from the old way to the new, you'll need the right it infrastructure. from a partner who knows how to make your enterprise more agile, borderless and secure. hp helps businesses move on all the possibilities of today.
it is april 1st. otherwise known as april fool's day. we're talking about this opportunity to honor some of this year's best pranks. >> first up out there, it is a video where a company introduces its cutting edge voice enabled search product. >> i'm happy to announce google panda. [ applause ] google panda is engineered with the state-of-the-art emotional and conversational intelligence. >> i want a google panda that google engineer explained. the features include its extra cute shock-absorbing abilities. the panda is available in multiple size, too, the compact google panda 5 and the high-tech google panda 6, too. >> i think it was doing something obscene to us. >> who says that google maps is only good for getting directions? take a look at this. now you can turn just about any neighborhood into pacman.
>> that's awesome. >> pull up google maps on your desktop browser, type in any address and click the pacman icon on the lower left-hand side of the screen. >> we go back to our childhood neighborhoods back in the '80s and do your pacman there. too bad there is no miss pac-man. >> i used to be able to get to level three. >> this is my favorite. you heard of the selfie stick out there. that's so yesterday. now comes the newest technology. >> introducing the selfie shoes. no matter where you go you'll always be camera ready, just insaid your phone into the port raise it to the perfect angle and click the internal button with the tap of your toe to take the photo. >> there you go. it's not an obvious selfie because your hands are in the picture. it has the iphone docking
section on both shoes. the shoes are kind of cute. >> i like the selfie shoe. >> it's a real shoe company that put the video out there. >> that's amazing. >> those aren't the best-looking shoes, though. you need an adapter. >> you know when the pointed shoes are all in. >> you always want to be with the height. >> shut up. >> this way the double chin is out of the picture. >> you can tell the selfie shoe designer like your little tips. >> this is a nice roundup. it is april fool's so be careful. the breaking news we've been following throughout the show, this is the big aboutface, this is no joke over arkansas's governor and that state's religious freedom bill. and the cell phone that reportedly shows some of the last moments from inside germanwings flight 9525. i'll speak to the reporter that broke that story. and one of those flashing lights behind chris rock in this photo? what is that? we'll bring you details in the
next hour here on "msnbc live" with thomas roberts. the garden is the story of our lives... told and retold. it's as old as our time on earth. and as new as tomorrow. you can have a yard. or slightly less. gardening isn't about where we choose to live. it's about how we choose to live. miracle-gro. life starts here.
in new york state, we're reinventing how we do business so businesses can reinvent the world. from pharmaceuticals to 3d prototyping, biotech to clean energy. whether your business is moving, expanding or just getting started... only new york offers you zero taxes for 10 years with startup ny business incubators that partner companies with universities, and venture capital funding for high growth industries. see how new york can grow your business and create jobs. visit ny.gov/business
this hour on msnbc, religious freedom firestorm. the debate now moving to arkansas. the state's governor refusing to sign a bill unless it changes. >> your employee crashed a plane. why are you refusing to take questions. >> hard questions. lufthansa's ceo dodging the hard ones about what he knew and when specifically the mental health of co-pilot andreas lubitz. in moments, we talk to a correspondent from paris match. prosecutors now want the video he claims to have. >> stop it with your mouth. for what sir, for what sir? stop it with that [ bleep ]. >> speaking of caught on cam are, a new york plea police officer's rant against an uber driver now prompting a full investigation.
but we begin with that developing news out of arkansas. in a surprise move by the governor, asa hutchinson saying he's sending the state's religious freedom bill back to law maushgs to make the changes he wants. >> my position is clear. i've asked them to remedy it. i've asked them to change the current law and i've asked them to recall it and change the language on it. >> meanwhile, in indiana, governor mike pence will not deliver a statement reacting to governor hutchison's decision. it comes a day after michael pence asked his legislature to clarify indiana's law. nbc's john yang live in indianapolis and nbc's sarah dallof is live in arkansas. we see the rally that's formed behind you. what is the reaction to the governor governor's decision. >> reporter: of course the governor previously indicated
that he would in fact sign this bill into law. then to come out today and say that changes need to be made he wants legislatures to recall it and amend it so it more closely mirrors legislation from 1993 caught a lot of people in a good way off guard. so let's talk about this rally here behind me. the human rights campaign and advocates of equal rights gathering to praise the governor for his actions today and to say it is a step in the right direction, they want to see this progress continue this language get added. and a bill that supports equal rights and does not discriminate against anyone period. they want to see that form of the bill passed. now, this of course following quite a bit of backlash not only from individuals but also from corporations. we heard from the world's largest retailer walmart, talking about it. they said in a statement, that the law as it's currently written, quote threatens to undermine the spirit of inclusion present throughout the
state of arkansas. we also heard the governor talk about how his own son contacted him, said he had signed a petition asking his own father the governor to veto the bill. so a strong message from many people in arkansas today asking for the bill to be recalled and amended so that thomas it does not discriminate against anyone here in the states. >> sara specifically we can hear behind you briefly the rally that's taking place. that's in recognition of the fact that the bill's going back? >> reporter: the bill was -- this rally was already planned. people coming out voicing their opinions against this bill. so it has changed a little bit due to the governor's announcement. they are continuing to urge state leaders to reach for equal rights, to write legislation that protects those equal rights, not only from individuals and representatives we're hearing from but also business owners who say that it is not only their customers and their employees affected but their bottom lines, that arkansas needs to draw
customers, business and those all-important economic dollars while protecting equal rights. sarah dallof reporting live thanks so much. five catholic bishops said in part, quote, the rights of a person should never be used in inappropriately in order to deny the rights of another. we are called to justice and mercy. that's the end of the quote. we bring in nbc's john yang. any indication of when they expect the so-called fix to happen? >> they're working on it thomas. they are meeting now, the house republicans and the statehouse behind me, they've been at it for about two hours. there are several versions several drafts of this fix we're told. they haven't yet settled on a single idea that they can all get behind and send to governor pence. they are having a bit of an artificial deadline. they want to get this done, the
governor and the speaker of the house say they watch the to get this done by the end of the week because there will be a lot more attention to indiana and indianapolis when the final four is held here. smaller businessmen across indianapolis say they fear a lot of damage has already been done. >> i don't have a fear of directly losing business immediately. i have a bigger fear of the residual effect of you know of how we look over the next few years. and that if we don't put this away quickly and put it in the past, that it will be remembered in indiana, particularly, indianapolis, for this episode that happened in one week in 2015. >> reporter: and a lot of fallout continuing. a lot of people who had been coming to the ncaa final four say they will not come. pat haden, the former college and pro quarterback who's the athletic director at university of southern california said he will not come to the ncaa
meetings surrounding the final four because he's afraid of what a law like this would do to his son, who is gay. thomas. >> a major perception problem continuing for indiana. thank you, sir. there's a lot of uncertainty about the history of religious freedom laws in this country. francis rivera is here. >> when you look at history, especially where this came from how it all started back in the 1980s and it all came from a cam tuesday, specifically peyote. they argued their use of peyote was part of a tribal religious ritual. they lost in the u.s. supreme court in 1990 by a narrow 5-4 vote. justices ruled that religious
groups were not exempt from general laws that applied to everyone. that outraged congress. in 1993 president bill clinton signed "the rundown" -- the restoration freedom act. here's what president clinton had to say at the time. >> what this law basically says is that the government should be held to a very high level of proof before it interferes with someone's free exercise of religion. >> from 193 we go to 1997. the supreme court limited the reach of the act ruling it didn't apply to the states. and that prompted many states to pass versions of their own. you're looking here at the 20 states in total that now have religious freedom restoration acts. thomas, in 2006 if you put in this perspective, the supreme court held it at the federal level, a unanimous ruling in favor of a small religious sect.
that religious sect basically wanted to improperty a hallucinogenic tea for religious ceremonies. the supreme court said this sect, they have the right to do that. >> it is fascinating to see how this has evolved over time. when we look at the modern day laws and they're using intent in timing and how the law has changed, it's fascinating but revealing. >> when you go from peyote to a baker denying a cake at certain businesses, too, fascinating to see the parallels. >> we'll continue to watch this and see how indiana comes up with the fix and what they'll do in arkansas. developing news from switzerland, it's looking less likely that an iran nuc deal will happen today. talks are stretching into the evening. still going on a day after the scheduled deadline. joining me now from tehran nbc news correspondent ali arouzi. how are these talks going now.
>> reporter: there seems to be all sorts of competing claims coming out today. they continue beyond the deadline. we heard that the gaps are narrowing and widening from both sides more times than i've had hot dinners. iran's deputy foreign minister was speaking on iranian state tv. he said if the sides make progress on the text that could be issued by the end of the day. senior western official saying a document without details is unacceptable, presumably the iranians at this stage are not sure about the direction of the talks or what action congress may take. they're being deliberately opaque on what to give up what to limit and what to convert. one of the lead negotiators added if an agreement is reached, sanctions on oil, banking and finance have to be lifted immediately. he also insisted on keeping research and development on advance centrifuges. two major points of contention.
in recent comments iranian foreign minister said that the success of nuclear talks depends on political will of major powers and that they should stop pressuring iran. three of the foreign ministers from the p5+1 said that sufficient progress hasn't been made yet and he'd only return if it was useful. as the talks stretch way past the deadline, we're seeing if anything useful will come out of this tonight, to form the basis of a comprehensive agreement by the 30th of june. these guys are scrambling very hard to see if they can get something signed on the dotted line before other people can weigh in. >> nbc news' ali arouzi reporting. thank you. we want to go back now to the developing news we've been falling all week long the updates from the crash of germanwings flight 9525. french prosecutors appealing to
anyone who might have a copy of an alleged video from inside the plane. news of this cops a day after two papers "build" and "paris match" said they had develop -- develop phone video. >> where did you find the 2009 e-mail from lubitz? >> i'm sorry, i'm sore we there's no -- >> why did it take you so long to publish -- >> there's no questions and answer. >> we want to start with this new appeal from prosecutors for any alleged video captured inside the plane. joining me from paris is frederique elbare. walk us through how you found out about the video and what you witnessed, what it shows.
>> well it's a short video which shows passengers in the plane. it appears, clearly, that the person who filmed that video with a smartphone or cell phone was at the back of the plane. and at this time you cannot identify anyone. and everybody is in his seat with belts. but what is the most -- the part of this video is the sounds because you can hear people screaming. you can feel a total distress beyond the passengers and you can hear some words, try to
understand but it was quite difficult. it was quite noisy in the cabin. and with some words, i guess, in german, in spanish, too. >> frederique you've said that you don't have a copy of the video to hand over as investigators are -- >> no. >> -- asking if this does really exist. so do you feel confident that this was authentic and should be hand over to the investigators? >> well let me tell you first i don't have the video. we got access to that video. i saw it first, then i saw it with the team from paris match. we decided not to broadcast it
because we thought it was not bringing anything to the investigation directly. it was just showing the level of distress and the fact and kind of chaotic situation and i can tell you that it had a deep impact on people who saw it and who were not used to facing such a situation. so this is the first point. in this situation, i'm not able personally, to give any kind of -- to give that video or any other. i don't have any video. >> did you ask the source -- >> we got into this specific video -- >> frederique did you ask the source of the video, ask the
source of how they were able to obtain this video? doesn't it compromise the crash site investigation? >> regarding the fact that i have to protect my sources, i won't go into details about that. we decided not to broadcast that video. we just put a few words in my report about it. that's all. the report is about the last moments and essentially based on the cockpit voice recorder transcription. so this is it. so i cannot tell you anything else that i know how i proceed. i know how i went to obtain that
access and how i proceed to obtain that access. >> obviously the story that you have -- >> to watch the video. i know it comes from directly from the field but i won't go into details. >> we understand you want to protect your source. obviously this story has captured the attention of the world as well as those that are trying to put together the full investigation of the story. we'll wait for confirmation of whether or not this does appear in the investigators' hands. international correspondent for "paris match "," thank you, sir. the governor jerry brown called for the first ever statewide mandatory water reduction. this is with the state of california living through a severe drought. we'll bring you a live report coming up in just about 20 minutes. but apparently they are going to slash water use by about 25% across the state to deal with drought. coming up behind the scenes
the efforts to stop "the rundown" bill in-- the religious freedom bill in arkansas. also ahead, this. >> do you understand me? >> yes. >> i don't know what [ bleep ] planet you think you're on. >> i'm not planning. i'm here. >> planning? i said planet. >> that department is launching an investigation. trevor noah responding, the comedian's reaction to the outrage over his past tweets. we'll be right back. ch protein does your dog food have? 18 percent? 20? purina one true instinct has 30. active dogs crave nutrient-dense food. so we made purina one true instinct. learn more at purinaone.com
how much protein does your dog food have? 18 percent? 20? purina one true instinct has 30. active dogs crave nutrient-dense food. so we made purina one true instinct. on the record with this breaking news from georgia. 11 former atlanta public school educators accused of participating in a test cheating conspiracy have been convicted of racketeering charges. only one of the 12 educators on trial was acquitted. a grand jury indicted 35
educators in march of 2013. many reached plea agreements with the prosecutors but again, 11 former atlanta public school teachers accused of participating in this test cheating conspiracy have been convicted of racketeering charges. i want to take you back to arkansas and the developments we've been watching coming hours ago from the state capital. the ball is back in the court of state lawmakers over the religious freedom restoration act. asa hutchison asking them to take back the bill and make changes. he says he won't sign it in its current form. it's a shock. with me now is arkansas state representative camille bennett who voted against the bill. thank you for joining us. i know there's a rally currently going on behind you. were you surprised when you heard the governor did not want to sign the bill in its current form? >> no, i really wasn't surprised. i think there's been such an
outcry from businesses and local leaders about the problems with this bill. i was thrilled to hear that he asked for the recall and i'm hoping that that happens. >> so he asked for the recall but if i understand the way that your state legislature works, if this bill is not recalled the governor doesn't need to sign it for it to go into law in about five days. is that correct? >> that is correct. he has two choices once it's on his desk. he can veto it or he can allow it to sit and go into law or he can choose to sign it i guess that's the third choice. i've heard both statements that he might veto it or that he might go ahead and allow it to become into law. >> so we know that -- >> we passed a previous bill -- go ahead. >> we know in his statement this morning he said his son signed the petition asking him to veto it. he used the words about recall. do you think it's the influence
of major businesses like walmart who came out against this bill who is -- >> yes. >> -- a big, a huge base for arkansas business. do you think it's walmart that turned the tide for the governor? >> i certainly think that had an influence. you know i think a lot of people when this bill came through thought we were signing a bill that was the equivalent of the federal religious freedom bill. which is commonly called the rfra bill. we're in arkansas religion is central to who we are, who i am as a legislator. if that's what we were doing is protecting religious freedoms i think everybody would be on board. i think the problem with this law as it goes well beyond the scope of the federal rfra law. it provides opportunities to sue private corporations and to sue
the state for violations of religious freedom. and changes the standards that we would use to assess those violations. it would make it almost impock impossible for a state to come back and show the standard that they have placed in this law to overcome the advice on a person's religion. >> the federal law is enough for most states. is it the fact that the supreme court is taking up marriage equality that makes arkansas think that it needs its own state law? >> you know giving everyone the benefit of the doubt, i mean there is a supreme court case that says that the federal law does not apply to states. so there is an argument that there's no harm in passing a state rfra law. if you look at the arkansas constitution, we have one of the highest religious protections that's in any constitution. it even expands the rights beyond the scope of the federal constitution.
however, if it gives people comfort that we're passing a state rfr law, i'm on board with that. we need to do everything we can do to protect our religious freedoms. >> we'll see how it proceeds forward with the recall, the governor asking for that. we'll see how you proceed. arkansas state representative camille bennett. thank you for your time. we appreciate it. we can hear the rally. we'll let you get back to work. >> thank you. hillary clinton is here in new york. we'll bring you a live report from inside an event. comedian chris rock tweets a pick as he's apparently pulled over by police. according to him it's the third time in almost two months. we'll be right back.
(son) oh no... can you fix it, dad? yeah, i can fix that. (dad) i wanted a car that could handle anything. i fixed it! (dad) that's why i got a subaru legacy. (vo) symmetrical all-wheel drive plus 36 mpg. i gotta break more toys. (vo) the twenty-fifteen subaru legacy. it's not just a sedan. it's a subaru. i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement insurance plans it could save you in out-of-pocket medical costs.
call now to request your free decision guide. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. [ male announcer ] you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and virtually no referrals needed. see why millions of people have already enrolled in the only medicare supplement insurance plans endorsed by aarp. don't wait. call now. there's nothing more romantic than a spontaneous moment. so why pause to take a pill? and why stop what you're doing to find a bathroom? with cialis for daily use, you don't have to plan around either. it's the only daily tablet approved to treat erectile dysfunction so you can be ready anytime the moment is right. plus cialis treats the frustrating urinary symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently, day or night. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain as it may cause an unsafe drop in
blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long-term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision or any symptoms of an allergic reaction stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. why pause the moment? ask your doctor about cialis for daily use. for a free 30-tablet trial go to cialis.com i love making sunday dinners. but when my back hurt, cooking all day... forget about it. tylenol was ok, but it was 6 pills a day. but aleve is just 2 pills all day. and now, i'm back! aleve. all right. we have a comedian trevor noah responding to the mountain of criticism he's received over controversial past tweets. he said via social media his jokes were not a true reflection
of his character or evolution as a comedian. comedy central defended the comedian call be the controversy unfair. some of his past tweets none of which were from this year poked fun at the jewish community, women and, quote, fat chicks. that story was trending big yesterday. francis is following other stories trending on social media. what's popping up today? >> a whole lot of uber trending on social media today. we brought you that viral video involving uber. a new york city police officer berating an uber driver. in yet another trending story, an uber driver was arrested yesterday in denver. 51-year-old gerald montgomery is accused of picking up a passenger, taking her to the airport and doubling back to rob her home thinking she wasn't there. fortunately her roommate was at home and foiled the attempt. the victim used the screen capture of her uber receipt to
help identify the suspect. uber maintains it screens its drivers and the suspect has no record in colorado. chris rock the comedian posted this tweet in the wee hours of the morning saying stopped by the cops again. wish me luck. many reply on twitter with disbelief that a man of his stature could have been pulled over. it's not clear why he was stopped, the reason there. this is the third time the 50-year-old funny man faced an officer stop in two months. police stops of black men at disproportionate rates have become a national issue. rock famously addressed it in a skit on how to deal with such interactions we reached out to chris rock for comment but have not heard back. chris rock and his traffic stop trending on social media. >> we shall see if we find out the story of whether a ticket was given, he has a lead foot or it has something else to do with
the police. the state's governor in california ordering the first-ever statewide water reductions. more from a live report from los angeles. and hillary clinton being seen in new york a day after being invited to speak at a congressional committee. a report from inside her nyc event. we're back with more, stick around. the up all-nighters. and the ones who turn ideas into action. we've made our passions our life's work. we strive for the moments where we can say, "i did it!" ♪ ♪ we are entrepreneurs who started it all... with a signature. legalzoom has helped start over 1 million businesses, turning dreamers into business owners. and we're here to help start yours. you've been part of the family for as long as i can remember. and you just mean so much to all of us. the holidays wouldn't be the same without your crescent rolls. we got you a little something. we got you jeans. it's about time. pipin' hot pillsbury crescent rolls. make easter pop!
♪ [upbeat music] ♪ defiance is in our bones. defiance never grows old. citracal maximum. - children start noticing physical differences as early as age two. so teach them it's okay to not only notice our differences, but to celebrate them. that's a lesson they're never too young to learn. the more you know. audible safety beeping audible safety beeping audible safety beeping
the nissan rogue with safety shield technologies. the only thing left to fear is you imagination. nissan. innovation that excites. breaking news from california where in an historic move that state is ordering all water use to be slashed by 25%. governor jerry brown issued a statement saying this historic drought commands unprecedented action. the snow pack's water con ten is the lower than any year going back to 1950. he signed a $1.1 billion relief package to help the 37 million californians affected by these bone-dry conditions. miguel almaguer joins us from los angeles with more on this. how did the governor, his office explain that number?
why they feel 25% is the right place to start. >> reporter: they asked for a 20% reduction over the last year or so and they've seen about a 9% reduction. they have to up that number. they're not getting the water savage they need. they're going to ask the public to all chip in. california is an unprecedented times. nasa scientists tell us we haven't been moving towards a dry period in the last 1,000 years like the one we're in now. reservoirs all across the state are running low. we are running low on water. nasa pointed out that we could run out of reservoir water in the next year. we'd still have ground water and other aquifers. some 37 million people in california alone are affected by this drought. it really changes the way we should live our lives day to day. the governor asking for more people to get involved cut back on water usage. if it's simply turning off your tap earlier or not washing your car as much.
we're facing restrictions in california in terms of lawn watering and other measures like that. the governor is asking for the state to do more. at this critical junction we don't have much of a choice. we have to do more if the state is going to try to save that 25% of water, thomas. >> he's asking for personal responsibility from all californians. if they're only at 9% over the first order, and it should be higher to 20%, now they're going for 25%, what are they doing to increase enforcement? how are they going to crack down if people aren't respecting what is being asked. >> they'll have to have local water districts to enforce the law. they asked people to cut down on water usage. that hasn't happened. in long beach they have installed water meters. information is sent electronically. immediately they can fine home owners saying you're going over your allotment, you have to cut back. that simply can't be dpon all across california. there's 38 million people in this state. it would take much too long to
do that. the governor will have to try to in some essence shame people to curbing their water use. one question to him, are we in a state of denial? yes, to some extent we are, he said. want to take you back to news on the east coast where we are expecting to hear from hillary clinton in about a half hour. she's here in new york city to launch early childhood initiatives. but the controversy of her use of private e-mail and its address during her team as secretary of state hasn't gone away. republicans on the house committee investigating the 2015 benghazi attack are putting a clock on the issue saying they want to hear from the former secretary in public and under oath by may 1st. a spokesperson for clinton said she is ready. alex how is this potential testimony impacting what's expected to be an april announcement from hillary clinton about running for
president? >> that's the million dollar question that even hillary clinton's campaign doesn't know the answer to because it's largely outside of their control. she would have liked this issue out of the way in december or even january, but republicans have an interest in keeping this as close as they can. she's looking at the prospect of testifying immediately before or after announcing. she wants to make public testimony and not do a private transcribed interview which is what the republicans want to do. she's afraid they'll leak out individual portions that might paint an unfavorable light. this is the big question hanging ofrg over her announcement even though we're just days or weeks away. >> it's a political gamble. having a context of viewership, of people being allowed to
witness it as opposed to the transcript could be pivotal to her success if she were to run for president. alex seitz-wald thank you. german's foreign minister telling his delegation that the talks will keep going through the night. world leaders are still hung up on key details aimed at curbing iran's nuclear program. the 18 months of talks had a deadline of midnight local time yesterday. and here we are with no public deal. nbc's chief foreign correspondent richard engel joins us once again from tel aviv. richard, what are the sticking points you're hearing about that are elongating the conversations? >> well a lot of sticking points really. it is the basic principle, how far iran is willing to go to put caps on its nuclear program, on its ability to enrich uranium, store that enriched material and how quickly the sanctions will
be lifted on iran in exchange for doing that. iran wants the sanctions to be lifted immediately, although the iranian foreign minister has said of that he only wants to see the key sanctions lifted immediately on the oil and gas sector, on banking the u.s. wants to see a more gradual approach where compliance is rewarded with easing of the sanctions. u.s. officials say it is not very likely that we're going to see some sort of deal today. it is looking more likely that it will run into tomorrow. these are big issues. and this would just be the beginning of negotiations. this would establish a framework for continued more technical talks to continue for the next couple of months. >> hard to think we could be back at square one after all this time. up next an nypd police officer and the traffic rant that's gone viral, all caught on camera. >> let me tell you something,
the next time you do it again -- >> okay. >> okay what? you going to let me [ bleep ] finish? >> we speak to the new york city reporter following the story. the details and much more, stick around. yummy! key lime pie at 90 calories. it is so good for not giving in. (vo) maggie wasn't thrilled when ben and i got married. i knew it'd take some time. and her sensitive stomach didn't make things easier. it was hard to know why... the move...her food...? so we tried purina cat chow gentle... ...because it's specially formulated for easy digestion. she's loved it ever since. and as for her and ben... ...she's coming around. purina cat chow gentle. one hundred percent complete and balanced for everyday feeding of adult cats.
to work on fine lines and even deep wrinkles in just one week. neutrogena®. the nypd is investigating one of its own after a video which appears to show a new york city police officer verbally abusing an uber driver went viral. the passenger who shot the video and then posted it on youtube says the officer went on a tirade after the uber driver honked at the officer whose unmarked car was block his way. >> let me tell you something, the next time you do it again -- >> okay. >> okay what? you going to let me [ bleep ] finish? stop interrupting me. people are allowed to park their cars on the side of the street without your interference. >> okay sir. i apologize. >> especially when the person
you do it to are the police. >> christopher mathias joins me with more on this. he's a reporter for the huffington post. three minutes long this video goes on that the passenger was able to capture this. the detectives endowment association released a statement saying the detective is just like everyone. they have things going on with their own lives. even the cops are indeed held to a higher standard. should we be look looking at this video and judging the life and career of this guy by one incident? >> well obviously the detective's endowment association says no. kind of the back story they've provided for this is that he was actually on his way to work after sitting bedside with his fellow detective who's in critical condition after suffering a heart attack. whether or not that's an excuse for the kind of rage he went into against this uber driver i mean, that's up to you. >> as you've been covering this we know internal affairs is investigating along with the
city's civilian complaint review board who will also speak to the passenger, sanjay seth i believe. >> yes, sanjay seth. >> he doesn't want to speak publicly. he thinks the video speaks for itself. what's the possible resolution with all sides to starting to investigate? >> sure. this is being investigated by internal affairs at the nypd and the civilian complaint review board. the hearing is actually today where sanjay says he is testifying. and there's a range of discipline that could happen to the detective, patrick cherry. he could be suspended for a period of time. he, like you said works for the joint terrorism task force. he could lose some clearance, among some other types of discipline. >> so uber gave a statement saying the behavior in the video was wrong, unacceptable. we appreciate the nypd investigating the incident. we are in touch with our driver/partner who was subjected
to this terrible experience and will continue to provide whatever support he needs. the twitter account of sanjay seth, here's to a quick, fair and thorough resolution of this incident. have you heard from your sources about eye time linea time line? >> i haven't heard about a time line. after the ccrb makes a decision the discipline decision will ultimately be up to the nypd. >> we shall wait and see. this was trending and got everybody's attention. that's for sure. christopher mathias, huffington post reporter. thank you. and governor mike pence on discrimination issues. and a theme park in florida that has assault rifles as its main attraction.
start the interview with a firm handshake. firm, but not too firm. make eye contact...smile. ay,no! don't do that! try new head & shoulders instant relief. it has tea tree and peppermint that cools on contact. and also keeps you 100% flake free. i use it for cooling scalp relief in a snap. mi bebé ha crecido tanto. try new head & shoulders instant relief. for cooling relief in a snap. in new york state, we're reinventing how we do business so businesses can reinvent the world. from pharmaceuticals to 3d prototyping, biotech to clean energy. whether your business is moving, expanding or just getting started... only new york offers you zero taxes for 10 years with startup ny business incubators that partner companies with universities, and venture capital funding for high growth industries. see how new york can grow your business and create jobs. visit ny.gov/business
want to update you on the developing news, the religious freedom debate that's taking place in arkansas. walmart which voiced opposition to the bill tweeted the reaction that it had to the governor asa hutchison, tweeting quote, we commend governor asa hutchison for reconsidering house bill 1228. the governor announced today that he wouldn't sign the bill without changes. walmart put out a statement that they were against the bill. they are one of arkansas's largest based businesses. we're also following developing news out of indiana and the fallout in the wake of the state's religious freedom law that went into effect about how governor pence has been handling this within his state. >> just this week he wrote in an op-ed op-ed, i abhore discrimination. let's look at his voting record on discrimination based on sexual orientation.
pence voted no on the employment nondiscrimination act in 2007. and then here's what he had to say on the house floor. >> the problem here is that by extending the reach of federal law to cover sexual orientation, employment discrimination protections, in effect can wage war on the free xer exercise of religion in the workplace. >> in 2010 president obama signed a landmark law repealing don't ask, don't tell. the law that banned gay men and women from serving openly. as that repeal was being debated, congressmen pence voted no. here's what he told chris jansing ahead of his vote. >> there's no question that to mainstream homosexuality within active duty military would have an impact on cohesion recruitment and readiness.
>> a look at governor pence's record on same-sex marriage in 2006. a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage failed on the house floor. here's what then congressman pence had to say. >> i believe, first, marriage should be protected because it wasn't our idea. several millennia ago the words were written that a man should leave his mother and father and cleave to his wife and become one flesh. that wasn't our idea. that was god's idea. >> last year thomas governor pence spoke with our colleague chuck todd and said marriage should be left up to the state. >> all right. so we shall see what the supreme court says coming up at the end of this month. interesting reactions coming out of indiana and arkansas today where over the hour we've seen at the statehouse there the rally that's taking place and people waiting to see if the
governor, asking for that recall, how the legislature will do that. as indiana's governor tries to back peddle on the controversial religious freedom law, there's one governor putting his hoosier hospitality where his mouth is. >> i don't support discrimination against gays or lesbians or anyone else. >> i'm joined by chris moorhead president of indy pride, that's the group leading the challenge. you're requesting of the governor to attend indy pride, correct? >> that is correct. thank you so much for having me. not just attend but also send a letter of welcome out to our state of indiana, making sure that everybody knows the hoosier hospitality is a reality here and that he wants to welcome people to the state for the circle city and pride festival. >> have you ever invited him before and has he shown any indication of wanting to attend. >> we actually don't make it a standard rule to invite specific people or individuals to our
event. we consider ourselves open for business for everybody and everybody's welcome and invited. >> from what you know chris, do you believe the governor is sincere when he says the intent of the bill the timing of this bill was never meant to be discriminatory or in reaction to the state getting marriage equality in the fall? >> i'm not a lawyer per se by any means or any stretch of the imagination. i think the writing is on the wall and everybody's on the exact same page with this and does see this as a form of discrimination. >> do you think from what you've seen, his press conference the other day, do you think he feels authentic, that he made a mistake although he's not used that word. do you think he feels and is expressing that authenticity to the lgbt community and those straight allies within your state? >> we would like to absolutely believe that. and so that's why we are asking him to actually produce this document welcoming people to the state of indiana. and really speak to that hoosier
hospitality rather than the hoosier hostility that people are feeling right now. >> what's the date and time line of when you would like to hear back from him. >> anytime soon but the specific date is saturday, june 13th right here downtown at the american legion mall in indianapolis indiana. >> june being pride month all across america. we'll see whether or not june 13th is a date that ends up on governor pence's calendar. you'll keep us posted. >> absolutely. we hope to see everyone there. >> president of indy pride inc. thank you for coming on. >> appreciate you having me. that will wrap things up for "msnbc live" with thomas roberts. "the cycle" is coming up next. hey, gang. >> we are covering this iran deal, the possible deal the ongoing fallout from arkansas and indiana and an interesting look at some of these new machine gun practice ranges for kids as young as 13 years old.
all that straight ahead on "the cycle." it's time for "your business" entrepreneur of the week. ryan smyth is an architect, designer and the owner of seattle based modern shed. he never intended to start a business selling these sheds but ten years ago he made one for himself and soon everyone was asking for them. now he's got a thriving business. for more watch "your business" sunday mornings at 7:30 on msnbc. brought to you by american express open. visit openforum.com for ideas to help you grow your business. and someday, i may even use it on the moon. it's a marvelous thing! oh! haha! so you can replace plane tickets, traveler's cheques, a lost card. really? that worked? american express' timeless safety and security are now available on apple pay. the next evolution of membership is here.
busiest airports in the country. we operate just like a city and that takes a lot of energy. we use natural gas throughout the airport - for heating the entire terminal generating electricity on-site and fueling hundreds of vehicles. we're very focused on reducing our environmental impact. and natural gas is a big part of that commitment. taxi. vo: after years of being treated like she was invisible it occurred to mindy she might actually be invisible. ♪♪ but mindy was actually not invisible. ooh, what are you doing? can you see me? she had just always been treated that way. yeah. you don't have to look at me like that. there are worst things than an attractive woman touching your body. i'll go. join the nation that sees you as a priority. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪
nuclear negotiators say they have a deal in sight, just don't hold your breath. good afternoon. i'm ari melban. negotiators working to finalize language on an agreement. these talks are continuing even as last night's deadline passed. the parties are close enough they feel they can leave with an understanding. secretary kerry has extended his stay at least another day. meantime israeli benjamin netanyahu unconscionable. the obama administration is emphasizing that deadlines are designed to spur compromise and action, not cut off debate.
earlier today, deputy foreign minister made a new bullish state on this deal saying there could be a, quote, resolution for all issues by tonight. as of this hour though, it appears that statement was overly optimistic. we begin in iran with nbc news' ali arouzi. >> it's still unclear whether they'll issue a statement let alone a political framework. in recent comments iranian foreign minister said he was not -- in a statement he said the success of these nuclear talks depends on the political will of major powers. he said that he's not dissatisfied but a lot more progress could have been made. he eludealluded to the fact of the