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fan, because i did not want wisconsin to win? >> what? c'mon, now! >> they beat kentucky and if you beat kentucky i'm riding with duke. >> the freshmen kids they felt no pressure they didn't even know the atmosphere and they just kept shooting. it's the coach's job to have them ready, and his team was ready. that's "the ed show." "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. \s. good evening. it's official. rand paul is running for president. >> today i announce with god's help, with the help of liberty lovers everywhere that i am putting myself forward as a candidate for president of the united states. >> the republican senator making the announcement today from kentucky pitching himself to
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the base as a true conservative. >> too often when republicans have won, we have squandered our victory by becoming part of the washington machine. that's not who i am. >> it's central to paul's campaign,ed claim that he's a different kind of republican one who's savvy about social media and can reach younger voters a libertarian who's questioned drone strikes, and nsa spying and gop military hawks, and he's joined democrats in calling for criminal justice and criminal sentencing reform and restoring voting rights to nonviolent felons. yet on some key issues paul lines up perfectly with the right. paul opposes same-sex marriage and abortion rights. he now calls for increasing
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military spending by 16%, while slashing the safety net. and today on the economy, he stuck to right-ring trickle-down rhetoric about the perils of government spending. >> this vast accumulation of debt threaten not just our economy, bur our security. -- it's only widened the income gap. we can't borrow our way to prosperity. lib rag policies have failed our inner cities. >> today paul's campaign put out this eye chart, playing off his medical background as an eye doctor. but what kind of candidate will voters see? when he look at rand paul? joining me now is robert gibbs, former white house press secretary for president obama, and casey hunt msnbc political correspond live in louisville where senator paul kicked off his compare. thank you both for being here.
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>> thank you. >> nice to see you, rev. >> casey, what can you tell you about the tone of the launch today? >> rely reverend i think the tone he was going for today was inclusion. he was the first white man to step onto that stage. preceding him were minority in one case a pastor from west louisville who cave a pretty passionate defense the rand paul. so i think that's a lot of what you also saw him reaching out to young people. i think you saw him strike a note on foreign policy thafb may softer than some of hess past positions, but i think at the same time he struck a different tone on that than other republicans. >> robert you're a political veteran. i want you to watch this and tell me how you think he did today. >> yet everyone needs to realize
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that negotiations are not inherently bad. the trust but verified it required in any negotiation, but that our goal always should be and always is peace, not war. >> robert? >> the tack he's trying to take and it will be interests to see if work in a gop primary particularly in 2015 where a lot of people on the right want to make his foreign policy views into a weak spot. it would be interesting to see. he probably lined up a bit better with where people were generally in the war-weary days of last spring. i think the rise of isis has changed a bit of that calculation, and it will be interesting to see it he are thread in needle in a very tough, hawkish primary. >> he's tried to play that he's conservative, but that he'll
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reach out standing with other senators like corey booker the minister, as you said today, from west louisville standing there. he even had a public breakfast with me but at the same time takes very right-wing positions. is this something that you think she has calculated to try to expand his base? and does he expand his support, but does he risk some of those in his base, saying that's going too far? >> i they he is walking a very careful line especially between those supporters who come from him out of the libertarian movement, maybe whofb very aggressive, very loyal. i think every step he takes away he's taking a small risk because those are the people he knows will be will they built organizations for his father in early states. they'll get small donations to him. on the other hand he also knows he's never going to win the nomination with only the people who supported his father. he has to make those overtures
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to other communities. whether it's to minorities whether it's to young people. i think it's interesting he's going after that instead every tacking hard to the right to try to gin up support with the evangelical base. it's clearly a calculated decision and separates him from somebody like a ted cruz who otherwise he might be directly competing with. that honestly would hurt both of them. this in some ways opens a different past for paul. >> there's already a million attack ad attacking him over foreign policy. >> announcer: rand paul supports obama's negotiations with iran but he doesn't understand the threat. >> you know it's ridiculous to think they're a threat to our national security. >> rand paul is wrong, and dangerous. tell him to topsiding with obama. >> how much time robert will paul have to spend fending off
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these kinds of attacks, and if you were advising him, how would you tell hem to handle it? spend a lot of time? ignore it? how does he handle this? >> i think he's got to go at it head-on. i think it's an interesting thing to watch this ad pop up on the day that he announces. you know clearly there are people like john bolden and lindsey graham running in the republican primary almost to run against rand paul as much as to run for president. you know, i think the line that he had -- the lines that he had today, as kasie talked about, the tightrope he has to walk is interested. to say that the government is an inefficient government at home is no better than at nation building abroad is an interesting tack to take. he's going to have to figure clever ways to phrase this because there's no doubt the primary voters these days tends to be more hawkish, more
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pro-invasion of iraq and different things like that and as you and kasie have both said it will le tough to walk this tightrope without walking away from the core republican primary voters. >> you know, kasie, a lot of republicans that are running are talking about the income gap, and rand paul is as well. listen to this. >> the poor seem to be poorer and the rich get richer. the poverty gap continues to widen. my trips to detroit, to appalachia, to chicago, have revealed what i called an undercurrent of unease. >> now, he's saying that but at the same time he's opposing minimum wage called for cuts to the safety net. he's called for blocking granting of food stamps. will independents and democrats buy his economic message? >> reverend i think this is a
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question of essentially which policies do you believe will work to close this gap? because you're right, you're seeing candidates on the left and on the right start to talk about this. everybody is seeing this in the data even big businesses are. yes, there are businesses raising the minimum wage but they're seeing the writing on the wall. this is a groundswell in many ways sweeping through the countries countries. on both the right and the left, and the republican party is no exception in this way. so i think the question for paul is going to be whether or not he can sell those voters on the idea that his policies are the right ones that ultimately will help them more than say, investing more in the safety net that the country has already built. i think that's the open question here. >> robert, let's look at the political landscape on the republican side. isn't ted cruz his biggest problem that there would be a threat to that base if there is
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a threat from the libertarian far right base? he's got to take on ted cruz somehow and neutralize him, and vice versa, ted chris has got to try to neutralize him? >> i think there's no doubt that he and ted cruz occupy some of the same space. i think kasie is right he hasn't tacked as hard to the right in invite social issues at least what he spent most of him time talking about. i think he's more known for his libertarian views on some of the issues. i think it will be interesting. he has a tougher path than say a marco rubio, scott walker or just about bush. his biggest concern will be those coming at him from the right on national security and if that continues to be a growing and important issue, as it looks like it will be in the republican primaries. if it gets even more important, he'll become more quickly
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marginalized. he clearly has the ability, appealing to younger people to expand this electoral. the question isn't whether he would win a rub primary as staged four years ago, but can he, in a place like iowa new hampshire or south carolina or nevada can he broaden that electorate to bring in enough people that changes the calculus a bit? >> and those are states that give him momentum. i smu ask you this i'm out of time, but robert the other person he has to deal with i don't know if worrying about it would be the right term is dad, the role -- politico did a piece about that. the role hi father will play or not play in the campaign. how does he deal with the optics of that either way? >> this again is another one of these tightropes that he has to walk. it's the enthusiasm of people who came ought for his father in 2008 2012 but how to navigate
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some of the thinks his hat has talked about more recently. seceding from the nation. it's not something that a candidate like rand paul will want to spend a lot of time or really any time talking about. yet at the same time he wants to capture that enthusiasm that his father garnered in appealing to uper voters. >> i'm going to have to left it there. thank you for your time tonight. robert, we looked forward to seeing you this week. >> eyen liking forward to it. >> here in new york this weeks. thank you. >> yes, sir. coming up breaking news. u.s. officials confirm, hackers connected to russia broke into the white house computer system. more on that ahead. also an important night in ferguson as voters cast their ballots for changing the city's future. we'll tell you all about it, ahead.
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breaking news. nbc news confirms u.s. officials bref hackers connected the hack occurred last fall and had already been disclosed. but it hadn't been linked to russia. officials say hackers got into an area of the white house network that contains unclassified but sensitive information. moments ago the white house deputy national security adviser had this to say. sfloo
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. developing news from ferguson missouri. voters heading to the pops polls for the first time. electing three new members for the city council. polls close in just under two hours. it's a big moment. bag in the fall in the first council meeting after the shooting, the residents of ferguson demanded political change. >> look around you. we're not going to let you go back to business as usual. it's not going to happen. today we tell you no more. you are now on notice.
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council. we've got to get out and vote. we've got to be accountable. when it comes time to make change. we are accountable. we've got to do it for us. >> since the shoot -- has started to see changes. the -- and municipal judge all resigned last month, but real issues remain with -- but just one of the six council members is black. the justice department chose not to bring charges guns officer dan wilson and the investigation confirmed the shooting was not rasually motivated, but the department of justice review found a history of systemic racial bias in the city's police
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department and lot courts. dale the people of ferguson have a chance to vote for change. joining mess is patricia bynes for ferguson township. thanks first of all for --. >> pow hornet is today's election moving forward? >> this is a monumental election in moving ferguson forward, in moving the st. louis region forward, and moving the nation forward in nose how are we going to tackle the issue that is we've been faced with regarding police brutality and the municipal court system. this is major. >> in 2014 only 12% voting only 11% voted.
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"wall street journal" reports that absentee ballots aren't signaling that the election will bring out large numbers of new voters. what has the effort to get out the vote been? and are you seeing it pay -- >> i think there's been a tremendous effort in get out the vote because the message in ferguson has not been a lack of voicer -- and what i've seen and the field plan that's been put into place, we are getting people to the polls, they want to be at the polls. they're taking right to the polls. they and they were tying that message directly to the selection.
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>> now, there are three seats in the city council up today. one is an open seat. i think you have -- so there's going to be more conversity in the city council no matter what but they'll have to deal with -- as you share overseeing the hiring of a new police chief. they'll decide the future of the police department and consider whether it even should be disbanded. they'll oversee rebuilding parts of the city leveled in the disturbances. they'll help a negotiated agreement with the doj over police court reform. do most of the candidates agree that serious change is needed? >> i've been to all of the
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candidate forums and i don't think that all of them think that there. looking at candidates and look at them for what they're saying messaging, in the way they want to move forward. >> do you think that's going to be healthier? if you have a more diversion council in or will it be dependent on what that diversity brings in terms of what the candidates and ultimate victors stand for and represent on the council?
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>> i think it's not just about diversity. there needs to be a diversity of ideas that speak to the wants and issues of the people to fix the problem? just being black is not enough. we need people who are going to tackle these issues. sometimes there are people of all different skin colors who can tackle the issues of equality. in order to move this around. there's very clear choices in these races, which i'm very happy about. . >> well we've got a little under two hours left for people to go to the polls. i sue you have on your get out the vote gear. pa tries ra bynes thank you for your time tonight. we'll be right back. know your financial plan won't keep you up at night. know you have insights from professional investment strategists to help set your mind at ease.
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we're following breaking news right now. a south carolina police officers has been arrested on a murder
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charge. after video surfaced appearing to show him shooting and killing a man, in the back the victims' attorney supplied it to the "new york times." we want to warn you, this video is graphic. the video appears to show the north charleston police officers shooting 50-year-old walter scott in the back. patrolman first class michael slager said he feared for his life because the suspect stole hi stun gun. today the north charleston man said the officer's bad decision prompted his arrest. joining me now is legal analyst paul henderson.
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>> thanks for having me rev. >> what's your initial reek action. >> i think it goes beyond just making a bad mistakes. what you see in the video is the individual running away with his back turned so there is no zone of danger in spite of whatever may have happened preceding those few moments, what we actually see is this officer aiming and shooting at this individual and killing him. and so i think prosecutors paid very close attention to that tape, and i think it's going to raise a couple issues as we continue having this national debate about how disenfranchised communities are affected when they interact with law enforcement, and also it directly feeds into the conversation we're having about how useful and how helpful it is to have these videotapes and people, individuals on the side watching and recording what
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happens when individuals interact with law enforcement. we see in this case a charge of homicide, so i think it's very important that's what we'll be discussing over the next few weeks as this case unfolds. we see what appears to be the man running away from the officer, which clearly doesn't line up with what we're hearing initially. we don't know where we're going with this but that the officer was threatened. it appeared the man was running away but again what is key and what many of us have been saying now, there needs to be video cameras. this video is probably the thing that led to this officer's arrest. >> but for that video, we would be unable to discern if there were inconsistencies from what the officer told his superiors and actually wrote out in the incident report after this event, and what someone actually recorded and saw. so i'm sure that's exactly the
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linchpin the prosecutors were peaing attention to when they were making the independent evaluation as to whether or not this person could be charge you saided and would be charged with a crime. >> again there will be an investigation and there will -- if in fact he's indicted and goes to trial, we'll see where the evidence brings us but it is disturbing again we have seen another shooting and another video that raises serious questions about police and the use of deadly force. >> we are. i think it's somewhat encouraging we are seeing a similar stade of review so that we don't see law enforcement in this case being held at a separate standard or not being held accountable when they're engaged in behavior that rises to the level of criminal conduct, particularly when it involves african-american men. it's very disturbing but i'm encouraged that review is taking
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time now for "conversation nation." joining me tonight, political strategist angela rye. accomplice cal science professor jason johnson, and the "boston globe's" shirra center. thanks for all for being here. we go back to rand paul launching his campaign today. he also launched strange items in the president atstore like a cornhole game. how about some "stand with rand" flip-flops. maybe you knee a spy-cam blocker, only $15, or set of
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rand paul beer could seeies. get this a "don't drone me" th shirr and perhaps a skin for your beats by dr. dre headphones. angela, are you buying what he's selling? >> i'm not buying anything from this store or any of the words coming out of his in mouth. this is not a candidate for me or i think for most persons once they get past this 30,000 foot level. he as managed to unite people all in the same opening address, and this is some of the talking points are things you could easily say and/or write. i think it's only a matter of time where they start to not being able to pass the smell test. >> jason, can he sell the stuff in history as well as the things on his platform that he laid out today? >> yeah, definitely.
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this is a guy who after the snl sketch his the #d.j.rand paul. s beats are very good headphones. i think he did a good job. he had a whole slew of multicultural and diverse people talking about how fantastic he was. he 'trying to say that not only can i win this nomination but win a general election. i think he did a good job. much better than ted cruz last week with his captive audience of college kids. >> how did he carve out and expand his voting base? the cosmetics of an announcement is one thing. to show diversity is another thing. how does that diversity translate into a diverse support base at the polls? or in the caucuses? >> it's going to be very difficult, rev, especially in the primary. the filed is just so large and
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unwieldy. you look at iowa new hampshire, south carolina rand paul cannot count on all of his father's supporters, first of all, because his father had a very unique and dedicated group of supporters. secondly he's just not going to be able -- he'll have a totally different competition. it will be much more difficult to create 9 same momentum his father had. >> angela your accomplice cat strategist, give me if you are consulting or counseling him, and i know haz hard for you to get there, but -- let's just stretch for a minute. >> okay. get me the road map you would give him to get the nomination? >> i would tell him to find some other bipartisan measures he could work on in the senate it's the same thing that president obama did. >> would that help him with the gop and conservative states as shirra said that come first like iowa and south carolina? >> i think iowa is a bit different, as history has
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dictated dictated. i think when it comes to being a middle of the road candidate for the conservative base he's going to have a hard time. i don't know what i could tell him to win him over especially given the fact he's done things like worry with corey booker on criminal justice reform. i don't know that many of them in the senate have bought into the koch brothers plan they put fort with the center for american progress. i think he has a tougher road with the regular conservative base. i really do. >> jason, president obama has some advice for scott walker -- study up. in a new interview with npr, the president was asked about the wisconsin governor's recent comments that he would rescind any iran deal on day one of his presidency. >> it would be a foolish approach to take and, you know perhaps mr. walker after he's taken some time to bone up on foreign policy will feel the
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same way. >> the president telling the governor to bone up. he responseses to criticizing the president's foreign policy. this isn't the first time that president obama has called out walker. just last month he slammed walker for signing an anti-union right to work bill in his state. jason, what kind of signal is president obama sending by singling out walker? >> you don't trash talk on somebody who doesn't have game okay? scott walker, i have said this from the beginning. he's the republican party's best chance of winning the white house in 2016. if you look back on it the sitting presidents always know what it takes to get the job done. they can see it in another candidate's eyes. george bush spent more time criticizing senator obama han hillary clinton. he's signals, this is the candidate that the democrats have to look out for. >> now, shirra do you feel that
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the president by -- in many ways raising scott walker up, will that rally republicans around walker? will it in many ways help walker become the single anti-obama candidate in the field, since he seems to have the president zeroing in on him? >> i'm going to bet no one was happier to hear the president criticize scott walker than scott walker's campaign staff. for them that means the president sees him as a viable challenger. it sets up a confrontation that scott walker would love to have directly with the party's current opposition. so i think it does say something about him standing in the field. i wouldn't call him the front-runner, probably just in the top tier of candidates. >> now, when you look at the whole top tier and secondary tier that is in the republican side of this, angela isn't the
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problem to walker job bush isn't the problem for rand paul ted cruz? didn't they have to fight for different parts of the party before they can go for the expanded base with enough of a big base to win? >> i think theyabsolute lie development you have folks that have to generate a track record of doing something besides filibustering, besides talking what have you actually accomplished? you have that type of questioning. anybody can come on air or getd deliver a speech and give excellent talking points but what can you deliver for the american people. what scott walker has demonstrated is he would be antiunion, and haven't does any foreign policy substance. by saying he needed to bone up on his foreign policy actually points attention to the fact this is the same guy that said that ronald reagan's biggest foreign policy accomplishment was undoing the air traffic
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controllers union, so everybody else will start to look at these records, whether they can stand on substance or just full of hot air. >> jasons mitt romney isn't just the 1% he's the top 0.1% on college basketball brackets. romney picked duke to win it all last night, and the blue devils beat the wisconsin badgers to win the championship but romney had near-perfect picks. he bracket ranked imperil than 99.9% of the 11.5 million others filled out on on espn.com. he tweeted -- should i have put that $10,000 on my bracket? congrats coach k and duke u. that is in reference to the bet in the presidential debate. jason, pretty funny joke from mitt. can you buy romney as a basketball analyst?
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>> i can. i remember when -- he's not a good sports guy. i remember when he was talking about nascar and said all i know is a couple of my friends owns nascar teams. he's never been able to connect with regular people but this is the humor he should have been able to show when he was running for president. >> where was it, shirra in we are seeing a lighter romney on jimmy fallon, and now with this tweet than we ever saw during the campaign. >> i think it's possibility that he enjoying being a former candidate that is a whole lot more than enjoys being a candidacy. that shows through in humorless formats like twitter, and the thing is he can be self-deprecating. but the public never saw -- never really saw that side of him under the documentary came out 1e6r8 months after he lost. >> well some americans join him better as a former candidate. angela jason and shirra thank
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. we are following breaking news right now. the charleston county sheriff's office just posted this mug shot of the north charleston police officer arrested for murder. the charge comes after videos surfaced, appearing to show him shooting and killing a man in the back. the victim's attorney supplied it to the "new york times."
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[ gunshots ] the video appears to show the police officers shooting 50-year-old walter scott in the back. patrolman first class michael slager said he feared for his life because the suspect stole his stun gun. today the north charleston mayor says the officer's bad decision prompted his arrest. we'll be right back. it took tennis legend serena williams, fencing champion tim morehouse and the rockettes years to master their craft. but only moments to master paying bills at chase.com. depositing checks at the atm and transferring funds on the mobile app. technology designed for you. so you can easily master the way you bank.
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president obama just over a year ago announcing his "my brother's keeper" initiative. the goal is to help young men and boys of color through community involvement, mentorships and education, part of the president's plan is a challenge to cities a challenge philadelphia is meeting head-on. the city of brotherly love has been at the forefront of the program, doing everything from making investments in agreed-level reading, strategy to helping young men out of school find jobs. to even hosting a my brother's keeper hack-a-then, an vent from young people can pitch ideas for mobile apps. a driving force has philadelphia mayor michael nutter. just last week he released a city's my brother's keeper action report and spoke about the philosophy behind the program.
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>> am i my brother's keeper? the answer of course should be yes, i am my brother's keeper. my brother's keeper is is intoed on the belief that we as a community have a shared responsibility to not only talk about they issues but ultimately that we work together to find solutions that help ensure that every person has an equal chance to succeed. joining me now to talk about those solutions is philadelphia mayor michael nutter who i'm excited to see at the national network convention this week. thank you for being here tonight. >> reverend thank you very much. thanks for the opportunity to be with you tonight, and certainly tomorrow. >> mayor nutter what are some of the biggest challenges facing young men and boys of color in philadelphia? >> well reverend as you certainly well know whether it's philadelphia new york
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chicago, atlanta, los angeles, many other cities across the country, issues related to the safety safety of unions men and boys of color, educational opportunities, disparities in health care, issues of reading and his rae, jobs in some instances reentry issues, and the ability to go on to higher education. and so these issues certainly affect philadelphia but many other cities across the country, but president obama's vision and focus on this my brother's keeper initiative the my brother's keeper challenge to mayors and cities all the across the country, other elected officials, we took up that challenge here in philadelphia. the six key milestones that young people are ready to learn when they go to school that they're reading at grade level by third grade, that they are graduating from high school s. fourth going on to higher education. a fifth, that they can get a
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job. sixth and most importantly, that they are safe from violence in their communities. this is not rocket science, it's not even science. it's just common sense. these are things that all young people should have but a particular challenge for young men and boys of color. >> what is impressive is that we hear a lo the about the problems and about the crisis and certainly no one tries to bring more light to them than i do but we've got to bring light to the solution. >> no question. >> and what works. and an example of that is what you are doing in philadelphia. what has been the biggest success of my brother's keeper in philadelphia, in programs in this first year? >> well i think the first and foremost, we literally just released my brother's keeper action plan for philadelphia, but we've got doing much of the work, even leading up to putting the report together. so investing in areas of public safety investigating or
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children here putting more funding into the programs. it's about mentor ship getting more caring dulles a particular focus on men to be mentors of four young people these kinds of effort -- we have to literally wrap or arms around these young people and let them know not only do we care but we have opportunity right in front of them and they can make different decisions about their life choices. it's about the police department, community policing engaged officers walking a beat getting to know the young people establishing a level of respect and rapport, talking with them about the issues and challenges they face, but also if pointing them in the right direction, the p.a.l. program but again it's the leadership and inspiration by president
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obama for this particular initiative. >> mayor michael nutter thank you very much for your time tonight. >> thank you, reverend al. again, we're sited to see you at the national convention week here in new york. >> absolutely. before we go back to the breaking news tonight, this north charleston south carolina police officer is in jail right now on a murder charge. the arrest comes after video surfaced appearing to show patrolman first clays mike at slager shooting a 50-year-old walter scott in the back eight times. scott was killed. slager said he feared for his life because the suspect took his stun gun. there will be an investigation, and if indicted the officer will stand trial, but what we already know is we have incidents all over the country, which is why we need to deal with police reform and why we
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need to deal with issues like videos and cameras on police. had shall video not surfaced we would be debating if anything happened at all. thanks for watch, i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. \s. rebellion on the right. let's play "hardball." ♪ i have a message. a message that is loud and clear, and does not mince words -- we have come to take our country back. today i announce with god's help, with the help of liberty lovers everywhere that i am

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