tv The Rundown With Jose Diaz- Balart MSNBC April 27, 2015 6:00am-8:01am PDT
the drone program or the cia. i think it makes a big difference. more transparent in the pentagon. that debate will continue, but right now the cia doesn't want to give it up. and you know what? i don't think the white house wants to give it up that much either. i'm not so sure anybody in washington want this is program to be transparent. >> and if it's way too early, what time is it joe? >> it's "morning joe." but stick around, "the rundown" is straight ahead. developing right now, a press conference, the u.s. coast guard is holding in alabama. >> thank you for continuing to be here. i want to reiterate that we continue to look to bring this case to closure for the affected families. that's principal. we're still looking for four individuals. a fifth individual that i talked about yesterday was found yesterday and we confirm that he was okay so we're down to four target individuals that we're looking for. my message here this morning is about the weather conditions.
they're deteriorating, we've got weather moving in from the west it's going to make the water potentially unsafe place to be so i want to encourage all private boaters, good samaritans that helped us in the search yesterday to please stay on laend land today. if you want to apply yourself shoreline walking searches are welcome and our number 251-441-6920 is still live for any information you have. but stay off the water because as the weather conditions deteriorate today, it's going to be an unsafe place to be and i want only the professionals from the alabama state resources and my coast guard resources to be out there. and they're searching for four people who are still missing, sailors still missing after a regatta over the weekend turned deadly. we will keep you updated on this developing story. good morning, i'm jose diaz-balart. also developing on t"the rundown"
rundown," thousands of people are trying to escape nepal, fleeing the city in the fear there could be more aftershocks in the wake of saturday's 7.8 earthquake. video shows the moment the quake struck devastating kathmandu and scores of villages in central nepal. the overall death toll has risen above 3,700. that number is expected to grow as the recovery effort continues. across kathmandu, people slept outside for a second straight night trying to stay away from buildings in case there are more aftershocks. on sunday an aftershock measured 6.7. a number of countries including the u.s. have sent aid but we've learned that several american military aircraft could not land in nepal because of congestion at the airport in kathmandu. instead, they were rerouted to india. beyond the capital, rescuers are trying to reach mountainside villages in the himalayas, some reportedly flattened. on base camp on mount everest,
look at this video, this is the avalanche sweeping through. look at that. here it comes. at least three americans among the dead. more still tripping right now and while rescue efforts are under way, it's not clear how many hikers are still up there. we begin our coverage with nbc's miguel al mare ga in kathmandu. miguel? >> reporter: saturday's earthquake spread waves of terror from kathmandu to mount everest. when the ground shook here waves of snow cascaded off the mountain. at least 18 are dead there, dozens injured. for so many there was simply no time to run. >> the ground is shaking. >> reporter: this new video from mount everest shows climbers trying to outrun a wall of snow and ice. >> go go! >> reporter: fleeing into tents as the avalanche he understand straight towards them. [ bleep ] [ bleep ] among the
dead, three americans. marisa eve girawong from new jersey who served as a doctor at a base camp posting on facebook hours before passing "day 28 on this arduous journey, snow is falling and my food cravings here are at an all time high." dan fredinburg a google engineer based in california was on a three week expedition to everest. >> here is where all the things we have. boots to gloves to booze. >> reporter: he shot this video in his tent just a week ago. his ex-girlfriend, actress sofia bush posting on instagram "he was one of my favorite human beings on earth, he was one of the greatest loves of my life." top taplin from california also from california died while filming a documentary. his wife says this was never supposed to be a dangerous expedition. >> an earthquake was unfathomable to me.
it's so shocking. >> they're bringing him down now. >> reporter: saturday's earthquake comes a year after an avalanche claimed the lives of 16 nepalese sherpas, ending the the climbing season: since then new paths have been put in. dozens of injured climbers have returned to kathmandu, an all too familiar scene of horror and terror on the world's tallest mountain. >> miguel almaguer getting us started. we will have much more from this devastating scene throughout today's "rundown." now to baltimore where thousands are expected to attend the funeral for 25-year-old freddie gray who suffered a spinal injury while in police custody. over the weekend, a week of peaceful protests came to an end when a small group of what baltimore police call outside agitators smashed cars and clashed with police. some residents tried to get in between police and demonstrators
in an effort to diffuse this growing tension. 36 people were arrested on saturday including four minors. i'm joined by baltimore sun investigator mark puente. mark, good morning. >> good morning. >> thousands of people are expected to attend the funeral and they want answers. what's happening? >> everybody in the city is waiting to hear how mr. gray died, whether or not the officers caused the injuries and what led to mr. gray -- the encounter with mr. gray and why the police officers pursued him that sunday morning. >> so we don't know yet what the results of the investigation as far as how he possibly died are, right? >> no, we don't. the police commissioner said friday they have been been given preliminary autopsy result they have not released those. the city vowed to turn over findings to the state's attorney but city officials caution when they do that the answers won't be known publicly or the investigation will still continue after friday. >> as i mentioned, protesters
got violent on saturday. we're seeing the video here. a photographer who works for the paper owned by your company was briefly detained saturday night. what happened. what's police response to this? >> well, the police responded yesterday and said that command staff has been told to give the media all the access they can. they said it was a mistake and they released the photographers pretty quick and dropped the charges. >> meanwhile, the protests are -- is it an isolated incident that we're seeing violence? >> well, there was a couple pockets in the city saturday night where out bursts occurred. things have calmed down since then. the gray family along with the mayor have asked for peace and calm. the funeral service for mr. gray starts in a couple hours so we'll see how things go today. >> mark puente thanks for being with me. also developing from boston, the defense is about to begin making its case to spare the life of boston bomber dzhokhar tsarnaev. let's go to the federal courthouse in boston where msnbc's adam riess is. adam, good morning what are we expecting from the defense
today? >> reporter: >> reporter: good morning, jose. defense attorneys will try to paint a picture of a naive young man, 19 years old, under the influence of his brother, someone who made bad decisions from a dysfunctional family. were it not for tamerlan, none of this would have happened. they have to overcome a strong gripping emotional case put on by the prosecution last week that left some jurors in tears. six members of his family v arrived in the united states. we expect it's possible some of them will testify on his behalf humanizing him in the hopes that the jury will show some mercy. now, if all 12 vote for death, he will get the death penalty. if not, he'll get life in prison likely at the supermax in florence colorado. some call it the alcatraz of the rockies. jose? >> adam riess, thank you very much. we will be coming back to you throughout the remainder of this broadcast. we'll also go to colorado where opening statements begin in the murder trial of aurora movie theater killer james holmes.
but we're just getting started on this busy monday edition of "the rundown." the coast guard just wrapped up a news conference we saw the beginning of it for the search of four missing people in alabama's mobile bay after a powerful storm capsized several sailboats. we'll go to a live report. plus the supreme court takes up the high stakes issue of same-sex marriage. it could affect the entire country. i'll talk with the man whose two fathers are the plaintiffs in one of the cases. and every emotion you could possibly imagine. those are the words of kim kardashian-west talking about bruce jenner's transition to living life as a woman. her interview with matt lauer on "the rundown." (music) boys? stop less. go more.
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the supreme court, people already lining up outside the nation's highest court in the land opening the witness storm's high-stakes arguments that will decide future of same-sex marriage in the country. with same-sex marriage already legal in 36 states plus the nation's capital, tomorrow the court will hear cases from four other states -- kentucky michigan ohio and tennessee. the decision could then affect the status of marriage for all 50 states. nbc's justice correspondent pete williams joins me now with the latest on tomorrow's arguments. pete, good morning. >> good morning to you, jose. yes, the supreme court will be deciding two questions, those are what they've asked the lawyers to address. first of all, under the constitution, can the states refuse to license same-sex marriage and in the event the supreme court says the answer to that is yes then the second question is even so must the states honor and legally recognize marriage z that were legally performed somewhere else in other state that offers same-sex marriage or another country, for example. now, it's asking those two
questions because those are the two questions from those four states that you just noted coming through the sixth circuit court of appeals which is the only one of the circuit miss the u.s. that has said states can ban same-sex marriage. to the supreme court will be deciding whether that circuit court got it right or where there was a constitutional right here and that the states all 50 must allow same-sex marriage. >> so pete what or should i say who will both sides be willing to? >> well, i guess -- once again, all eyes will be on justice kennedy here for a couple of reasons. one is because he often is the deciding vote but more importantly because he has written all of the cases that are considered pro-gay rights in the supreme court, including the one two years ago that really is the one that opened the floodgates that led to a lot of these lower court rulings striking down bans against same-sex marriage. now, the one question here is his opinion in that case two years ago called u.s. v. windsor
about the defense of marriage act has two faces. one is it's a pro-state's rights decision and in that case the states may think they have the upper hand. but at the same time he said it's wrong for the government to demean same-sex marriages and that's why advocates of same-sex marriage think they may have the upper hand. >> interesting. pete williams thank you for being with me always a pleasure. >> you bet. joining me now is one of the faces who will be directly impacted by the arguments tomorrow. tevin johnson campion have two fathers, plaintiffs in the kentucky court. he's just made his way from washington, d.c. with his family ahead of the arguments, good morning. >> good morning. >> talk to me about the journey you're making and you're blogging about it. >> yes, sir. i'm teamed up with the aclu and i'm running a tumblr blog and i'm just documenting the experience that i've had up to my trip to washington, d.c. and what i see when we go to the
court tomorrow. and just the trip in general. >> so your parents' marriage is not recognized in your home state of kentucky. how does that impact you and your family? >> well you know it's a touchy subject because i've always considered my parents married but since they are not legally recognized in the state as married, they miss out on a lot of benefits that married couples do get to have. they have to pay different mortgages, health insurances and just -- they have to file different taxes as well so it's costing them a lot more money each year just to go on and live their lives. >> and tevin, tell me what you wish folks that read your blog and get to know your story, what do you want them to know? >> that we're just like everybody else in that we are human and we are people and that we're not freaks and we're not completely different from everybody else. we are the same.
and i really hope people who see my blog see how similar and how similar my life is to their lives and how human we are. yes. >> what do you say to folks who oppose same-sex marriage who say kids should be raised by a mother and a father not a father and a father or a mother and a mother? >> well, you know i always just ask them i'm like is that really what you think? because i've grown up great. i've had a great life. my parents are given me so much. they've given me a second chance at life. and for people who don't know what i've gone through and don't know what i would have gone through if my parents did not adopt me i really have to challenge their mind-set. my parents have given me a great life and i could not have had that if they didn't adopt me. >> even the, thanks for being with me. so appreciate it. >> thank you so much for having me. >> thanks. we'll have much more on these high-stakes arguments in the next hour. includeing one of the
high-profile voices against same-sex marriage. after the break, we'll zoom through some of today's other top stories, including the search for four people missing after sailboats capsized during a storm in alabama. also these storms produced massive hail in texas. severe threat not over yet. the details of that. also, in case you missed it president obama put on his comedian hat for the white house correspondents dinner on saturday. he was very funny. >> after the midterm elections my advisors asked me mr. president, do you have a bucket list? and i said well i have something that rhymes with bucket list. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] take executive action on immigration. bucket. [ laughter and applause ]
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developing right now in alabama, we're seeing this dramatic new video of a storm pummelling a sailboat at a regatta. winds up to 70 miles an hour. the search for survivors continue this is morning. we have a reporter on the ground from dauphin island alabama. mark, good morning, what have we learned? >> well, hi, jose. there's been an interesting development in what has been described for the last couple days as a search for five people, five boaters presumed to be missing. we're told they are looking for four people, the fifth person, a man, has been found. but that person was at home and safe not in the water. there fs a mixup in how many people they were looking for. they had 119 boats to account for. they thought there may be five people missing, turns out there are four people, the fifth person, a man, has been found, as i said at home. all is well. unfortunately there are still, to keep this in perspective, four people still missing out
here. two others have been confirmed dead as a result of that fierce storm with near hurricane-force winds that tore into mobile bay on saturday. swamping 10 boats. with boaters still missing this morning, race participants who survived the storm know just how lucky they are to be alive. >> i'm very fortunate. very blessed. >> reporter: joshua edwards, who took these pictures at the height of the storm with his mother at the helm says it's the worst he's ever seen. >> by the time we realized it was going to hit us it was on top of us, it was a matter of minutes. >> reporter: coast guard boats and aircraft along with local authorities have been searching mobile bay non-stop. >> we're working our hardest still to bring those still missing back to their families. >> reporter: 40 boaters, some racers but mostly others just out sailing, were rescued soon after the storm hit. richard mather, who shot this video, says he and his crew pulled three people from the water. all three clinging to a single life preserver.
even while the search goes on some are asking why there was no warning. they could have averted this tragedy. meteorologist kelly foster from our mobile affiliate wpmi says the storms grew up very quickly. >> winds were gusting at more than 70 miles an hour as lines of storm moved across mobile bay racing at 60 miles an hour boaters had no time to take cover. >> everybody has technology in their pockets. the sailors out here were watching the weather but we had no idea it would be that severe that fast. i don't think anyone would have ever gone out. >> reporter: now, the coast guard says there will be a formal investigation of this incident but right now they're still concentrating on search and rescue as the weather gets bad. they're urging everyone except the coast guard and local authorities to stay off the water as they hope against hope of finding survivors as time passes here. >> mark potter in alabama, thank
you so much. a weather alert. a key meeting between the u.s. and iran and a coyote caught. let's zoom through today's top stories. >> oh, my gosh we have softball sized hail going off -- and i just got -- i just got bless all over me. >> wow just to repeat. that was softball-sized hail smashing the windshield of this storm tracker's car near stevenville, texas. severe storms packing high winds. hail and even 19 tornados causing major problems from dallas to san antonio. today 13 million people are at risk of bad storm, from houston and norls more of the same conditions expected. nuclear negotiations from iran will be front and center in new york when secretary of state john kerry meets with iran's top diplomat. the two will meet on the sidelines of a u.n. conference to discuss a tentative deal that was reached on the second of april in switzerland. this in hopes of securing a final landmark agreement with iran before the 30th of june deadline. later this morning, loretta lynch will become the nation's
83rd attorney general when she's sworn in by vice president joe biden at the justice department. she's making history as the first african-american fee neal the post. the swearing in is coming five months paf president obamaafter president obama nominated her to replace eric holder. her confirmation was logjamed as republicans and democrats fought over an unrelated bill. an update out of new york for those who caught friday's "five things." one of the coyotes seen strolling the streets of lower manhattan has been captured by police. officers cornered the coyote in a restaurant patio after an hour-long hunt. the female canine was tranquilized and taken safely to the aspca. city officials say three coyotes were sighted in manhattan just last week alone. three of them. still ahead, you've heard from bruce jenner about his journey to live as a woman. up next, matt lauer's interview with jenner's stepdaughter kim kardashian-west. hear how her family took the news and the emotional toll it
has taken on all of them. plus, a who's who of republican presidential hopefuls took to iowa, cruz rubio, walker paul huckabee, these are just a few. we'll break it down. but first nepal, one of the poorest countries in the world, is struggling to deal with the shock and devastation of this weekend's earthquake. according to the world bank nepal's per capita income $62.50 a month. if you want to help global aid organizations are taking your donations. just those the web sites of some of those you see on our screen including save the children the red cross, oxfam, unicef and even paypal. we'll be right back. i heard you lost a close one today. look, jamie, maybe we weren't the lowest rate this time. but when you show people their progressive direct rate and our competitors' rates you can't win them all. the important part is, you helped them save. thanks, flo. okay, let's go get you an ice cream cone, champ.
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ultron" opening in theaters, friday may 1. now to a nbc news exclusive. kim kardashian-west speaking one on one today with most matt lauer following her father bruce jenner's conversation that he's transgender. she didn't hold anything back about her feelings and how her family is adjusting to jenner's decision to go public about living his life as a woman. >> bruce is the most honest just -- he has the biggest heart and i'm really happy for him that he is living his life the way he wants to live it and that he has found inner peace and just pure happiness. that's what life is about. i don't know what life would be like if you always felt like you weren't yourself. and i know it's not something that you or i can really fully understand but i don't even think we have to.
i think as long as he is happy and he wants to live his life however he wants to live it that just makes me happy and i support him 100%. >> did this support take time? was there an adjustment period for family members to kind of get used to this idea? >> i think there is still an adjustment and there's family therapy and we're really close, you know? i see reports you know that say this one doesn't support him and this one is over here and my mom feels this way. it's all really so made up. we all really support him. is it a hard adjustment? yes. is there things that we have learned more recently and -- it's an adjustment on how to deal with it and it's a daily process. >> give me an example of what it takes to adjust. >> even just the discussion. we have been talking to people
from the glaad organization and different organizations on what do we call him? do we say him or her? how do we be respectful? there's so many different things that you just want to be supportive and just want to be respectful. and i think that everything takes time. i mean bruce wants us to feel as comfortable as possible and take everything at our own pace and we love him for that and we respect him for that until that transition is done we've learned that you do refer to him as him. but bruce has always been really really good at explaining everything to us even though it's really new and these have been newer feelings -- not newer feelings for him but for us to digest. he's done a good job at walking us through it. >> do you think he has any idea the attention he's going to get for a certain amount of time? paparazzi with one of those long lenses grab photos of him and they're splashed across the front page of a tabloid
newspaper. is he prepared for that? >> i think he is prepared for it. i think he has waited almost 65 years to make this decision. whether he's kept it to himself or not, he's lived with it and i think that when you are finally ready to be your true self then you're prepared for anything. >> was there the family meeting? was there one of those thisat you almost imagine the family gathers in the living room bruce tells his story and there's embracing and hugging and tears and laughter? all of that? >> every emotion you could possibly imagine. there is hundreds of family meetings. we still have them. say what you want about us but we work out everything as a family and we have the best communication and we are so in sink with each other. i love having so many siblings
and such a supportive mom because each family member might be dealing with this in a different way but we have each other to go through this experience with and i'm grateful for that. >> amazing. bruce -- i grew up watching him and admiring him as a decathlete, an olympic champion. he was in the spotlight. but over the course of the show "keeping up with the kardashians" he seems to have wanted to remain a little bit more in the background. and now that spotlight is going to be turned right back on him again in a very intense way. >> and i think he is ready for the challenge and ready to help other people's lives that might be going through the same things that he's going through and that's something that he's really proud of and something that he is really ready to take on and i'm really proud of him for that. >> we will have much more on bruce jenner in the next hour of "the rundown"." i'll talk to executive director of the transgender legal defense
and education fund about the impact this could have on the transgender community. turning now to politics, if you're a republican who wants to be president, there's a good chance you were in iowa over the weekend. a group of eight men and one woman eyeing the white house attended the faith and freedom summit. their goal, to win over social conservatives that are key in the gop primary. they all seemed keenly aware of tomorrow's supreme court arguments over same-sex marriage: >> i have to tell you one thing that i think all of us are called to do. between now and then and especially on tuesday is fall to our knees in prayer. >> marriage is a decision that should be defined by our state governments and not at the federal level and in wisconsin and other places across the country marriage is defined between one man and one woman and states should make that decision. >> in this whole debate about the definition of marriage i remind everyone that marriage as an institution existed before even government itself. that the institution of marriage is one man and one woman existed before our laws existed.
>> joining me now is ed o'keefe of the "washington post" and msnbc's jane tim who attended the summit in iowa. many in the gulf of mexico see this whole same-sex marriage issue as a losing battle yet they are very much talking about it. >> that's partly because the primary system goes through iowa first where there are so many evangelical voters who vote republican and they know that they've got to rally those supporters in order to get early momentum. then very quickly it goes to south carolina which is another state packed with evangelical christian voters. so that's part of it. the other part of course, is just this general belief that there's concern that the country's moving too quickly on this issue. they see the polling, they understand that, but even as bobby jindal said, if it means we're in the minority so be it. >> jane you were there over the weekend. which candidate got the largest applause there? >> ted cruz really was the favorite. he spoke second to last after three or four hours of just straight speeches. and people were stomping on the
ground, clapping, cheering really really excited to hear him and hear what he has to say. he's a bit of a celebrity in this social conservative crowd but there were a lot of candidate there is that people were interested in. a lot of standing ovations and applause lines. i was particularly surprised, carly fiorina, one of the least-known candidates in that room, did very well. she had a lot of people who were saying, yeah this woman, i'm very impressed with her. and the iowa faith and freedom coalition is some of the more realistic evangelicals they want a social conservative who checks the boxes but they want someone who can win, too. >> jane i want to change the issue here. the acting head of the clinton foundation is now addressing reports on foreign donations and disclosures saying in part "yes we made mistakes as many organizations of our size do but we're acting quickly to remedy them and have taken steps to ensure they don't happen in the future." jane i'm just wondering, do you think this is going to have a
continuing story byline on this? >> i mean, this is just yet another thing for republicans to go after. when i was chatting with people on the trail and said "why do you like thissern? why do you like that person?" a lot of things i heard was i like this person because i trust them, they're honest and seem straightforwardment they'd say "hillary doesn't seem that way to me." i think this is feeding into a narrative that republicans are pushing that's she not transparent or clear. >> it seemed as if she was planning to run for president for such a long time. they've been thinking about it for years. now suddenly now is it oh we did make mistakes? why didn't they think about this before. >> you would have thought that from the beginning, bringing her on putting her name on the door they would have started to think about the possibility possibility that all this would come out. in the absence of any actual campaigning, this is what journalism does -- we start digging into these types of things and this was sitting there for the taking:.
part of it may be that they thought they were doing everything acceptably but it snowballed into a big problem for them and what was once a big benefit, having this global foundation that is doing a lot of good around the world is becoming a very big political liability. >> do you think this will continue? >> absolutely republicans haven't stopped. they see this as an excellent opportunity to remind people they've been out of touch with ordinary americans, that they have great influence that might one day play out in the clinton white house. >> ed o'keefe and jane timm thank you both for being with me appreciate it. after a quick break, we'll be showing you this cool video from the hubble telescope celebrating its 25th birthday. but what it was f there was life in those distance galaxies? nasa says it's a real possibility. i've been saying this for years now. i'm thinking there is life. first, we're just getting in this new drone video showing the ing the sheer devastation from the death not nepal.
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every corner of the scientific field to examine hundreds of planets for signs of life. derek pitts is the chief astronomer at the franklin institute in philadelphia. what a pressure to see you. >> thank you for having me this morning. >> do you think we're talking about like martians. like the green little life forms or more basic level? what do you think we're looking for? >> wouldn't it be great if we could find something like that? that would answer a lot of questions right away. but actually, no. what we're actually looking for are the biometric signatures if you will of the existence of life and we're really looking for microbes. microscope microscopic organisms. so it's a much smaller scale of organism we're looking for. >> derek, what exactly are biometric signatures and how do you look for them? >> well, what we're actually looking for is we're looking for telltale evidence that there's
some sort of biologic process happening on one of these planets. the way to do that one of the best ways is to examine the gases in the atmosphere of the planet. fortunately, scientists have a method by which they can examine the atmospheres of these planets using the light from the nearby star: the device that we use looks at the light that's reflected or comes through the atmosphere and we can pull apart the component chemicals o of the atmosphere, figure out what's the reflected light from the sun and figure out what's left over as the evidence of gas is in the atmosphere of that planet. we know certain biologic processes create certain kinds of elemental waste materials and we can sniff for those, in a way, in the gas more to the atmosphere and that might be able to tell us of the possibility of some biological process happening on those planets. >> derek, on a bigger picture, with so many billions infinite number of planets, aren't you just sure deep down that there's someplace somewhere where there's somebody watching the
equivalent of msnbc on one of those little planets and they're seeing me and you talking about it reacting to it and say requesting there's got to be life over there in tert area"? don't you think there's so many planet there is's got to be some real intelligent life out there? >> and i'm sure msnbc would love to have those numbers to post for ratings, too. >> i'll take them. really. >> you're right, as we look around the galaxy alone there are thousands, thousands of possibilities. thousands of possible planets, and of those thousands of possible planets. the numbers alone suggest they's probably some sort of life. but that's the piece of this that we have to be careful about. that is just working the numbers the probability says there has to be a someplace where there's some kind of life going on but we haven't seen any evidence anywhere yet. so while dr. stofan is excited about the possibility of us
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daredevil and high-wire artist nik wallenda has set world records and now his sights are set on this all new 400-foot-tall orlando eye in central florida. the massive structure opens to the public next month, but wallenda will get an early look this week. he's going to walk across the top of the ferris wheel on a beam that's six inches wide and he'll do it without a balancing pole while the ferris wheel is in motion and, of course while on live tv. nik wallenda joins me now, along with john stein. gentlemen, good morning. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> so nik, you've done all kinds of things. i mean grand canyon niagara falls. why orlando?
>> you know me and my wife were visiting orlando about a year ago and while we were here with our children i saw a new structure going up right here on i drive, it is an awesome observation wheel, but at that time i didn't know what it was. i told my wife i wonder if there's an opportunity to do something unique there. i saw a huge structure in the middle of an open area if you will, so about three months after that the phone rang and it was the people of i drive and wanted me to be a part of their grand opening, they didn't know how i'd walk where i'd attach and as i came out with my team i decided, you know what i think it would be very cool for me, as well as the viewers, to do something on top and actually walk as it's moving. >> you know i can picture you and your family anywhere you go any place, the kids are looking, look a big structure, dad's going to think he can put a cable.
traveling with you must be kind of a nightmare as a kid in a positive way. how is this different from all the other things that you've done and every single one of them is different, i know but how is this one different? >> this one's extremely unique because of the fact it is moving. i'm not in control of my pace because of the fact i can't use a balancing pole because the structure's in the way and also because of the fact i have to duck under structure as i'm moving as well. this will all be for a guinness world record and, of course this will all be live on the "today" show wednesday morning. >> that's good thanks for mentioning, i'll plug it again, but tell me about this vision for the project, the orlando eye came about. >> yeah jose again, we wanted to kind of reinvent the way things are done here on international drive, so our owners came together and created this incredible complex, which features a number of unique attractions. of course, the new orlando eye is the star of it but other great attraction brands like
madame tussaud's wax attraction sealife aquarium cool restaurants and nightclubs and shops, and it's here on the center of international drive, so our guests can do what nik's going to do but in the safety of their capsule. they'll be able to go to officialorlandoeye.com and get more information on what i shared and purchase ticket packages, which include the eye. just a great way to kind of add a new dimension to your orlando experience. >> looking forward to doing that, john. i actually am i'm going to take the kids but in the capsule, not the wallenda style. nik and john thanks so much. i really appreciate you being with me this morning. >> thank you. >> as nik said the stunt will be live on "today" this wednesday. don't miss it. nik is extraordinary and he does the wildest things and always succeeds. we'll catch it on the "today" show. coming up on "the rundown," a live look inside baltimore. a church there where funeral
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day, of course on which freddie gray will be laid to rest but there's great concern about the unrest here in baltimore. there have been protests in the days leading up to this funeral, but really today is about family, friends, loved ones supporters paying their final respects to a 25-year-old man who lost his life under what can best be described as mysterious circumstances. the city is trying to walk a razor thin line here trying to reassure the community that will will be a full and a fair investigation into this case. freddie gray died on april 19th from spinal cord injuries he suffered after being arrested by baltimore police. six officers on leave and the investigation is trying to determine whether these officers did anything wrong. police officials say so far that yes, something absolutely was done wrong. he was not belted into the back of a transport wagon as department policy suggests he should be. the question is whether there was criminality and whether
there will be a prosecution here and that's something that is part of that razor-thin line while reassuring the community this is being investigated officials also have to make sure there is a full and a fair investigation of the officers into what happened that involves all kinds of surveillance videos that were -- some of which were released over the weekend, but really today, this is about freddie gray. it's about his family loved ones supporters coming here to say their final farewell to a 25-year-old man who lost his life. jose? >> brian mooar, thank you so much. developing now in boston defense lawyers are beginning their case to spare the life of boston marathon bomber dzhokhar tsarnaev. msnbc's adam reese is there. good morning, what have we heard so far this morning? >> reporter: jose good morning. actually attorneys are still in the judge's chambers but when they begin the defense will attempt to save his life painting a picture of a naive 19 year old under the influence of his older brother, someone who
came from a dysfunctional family, who made bad decisions. were it not for tamerlan none of this would have happened. now, his family is expected here today, six members of his family that arrived from overseas. some of them may testify on his behalf to humanize him, to see if the jury will show some mercy. all 12 jurors must vote for the death penalty, otherwise he'll receive life in prison and that would likely be at the super max in florence, colorado also called the alcatraz of the rockies. jose? >> adam thank you. i want to bring in msnbc legal analyst faith jenkins, good morning. >> good morning, jose. >> what do you think the defense needs to do to get the jury to spare tsarnaev's life? >> judy clark has one job here and that is to convince at least one juror to show mercy. this exercise that they are doing now, a lot of people think when it comes to the death penalty phase this is a very emotional decision but it's actually very academic one, because what they have to do is they have to weigh the
aggravating factors in the case what the prosecutors did, present for several days for the jury, they have to weigh those aggravating factors against any mitigating factors. so now what you're going to see judy clark get up and do talk about those mitigating factors and she'll bring on witnesses to talk about how young he is he's a minor, he doesn't have a criminal record, he was influenced by his brother, he isn't this radicalized terrorist that the prosecutors want you to believe. >> i want to take you back to baltimore, where thousands are expected on hand. what's going on behind the scenes as the police get ready to release their report later this week? >> i'm sure there's been a lot of interviews and investigations going on behind the scenes because here we are several days after gray's death, family friends, loved ones community gathering for his funeral and there are still more questions than answers. we know this young man was a relatively healthy young man and within one minute of his
interaction with police he was being arrested and days later he dies from this severe trauma to his neck and spine. as you can imagine, that community wants answers. how has it been so many days now and the family still doesn't know why he was being detained the family still doesn't know exactly what happened in that van. there are people who know the officers in that van know perhaps another person who was arrested perhaps witnessed something, so again, people are calling for a fair and impartial investigation. the question remains, can this police department investigate themselves and do that fairly. >> yeah i mean the fact that he wasn't strapped in the back of his van as is policy doesn't necessarily mean that something so outrageous could happen in that van. wasn't involved in an accident or anything right? >> right. as far as we know that van was not in an accident. so now the real question is about the use of force and if the use of force was justified, what happened when that force was used and what caused those
injuries. >> faith jenkins, thank you for being with me appreciate it. >> thank you. now to developing news out of nepal, where rescue efforts are gradually turning to recovery. more than 55 hours after a devastating earthquake that hit the capital and the surrounding region. the official death toll now over 3,800. it's tough to get your mind around the kind of destruction we're talking about, but this may help. these are pictures we just received showing a bird's eye view of kathmandu. you can see how many buildings have suffered damage. take a look at this this is one building that is demolished. over 2,500 buildings have been destroyed, by the latest count. take a look at these pictures a lot of places rescuers are still trying to reach, particularly remote mountain villages. richard engel is there with more. >> reporter: officials tell us any death toll at this stage is really just an estimate. they are still coming to terms with the scale of this disaster and the aftershocks are continuing.
the entire city of kathmandu seems to have moved outside. families live on curbs, trying to keep their children fed, clean, and most of all away from buildings. the historic center of kathmandu is the city's most popular attraction by far, with ancient temples and palaces, and it bore the brunt of this earthquake. where a nine-story tower had been over 150 years old, now just a stump. a temple compound even older, reduced to a pile. volunteers today were digging with their hands. they don't expect to find survivors, just bodies. police have already found around 150 of them in this area. they used to come to this exact spot. why are you helping out today? >> it's my place. i've been here like every day. used to come here and hang out. used to sit around here with friends. it's my place, it's my country, it's my people. >> reporter: this is also the height of tourist season and an
american visitor captured this video of guests huddled in front of their hotel during saturday's earthquake and aftershocks. >> there was a huge crowd and we had a couple of big aftershocks earlier, which everybody was saying to get down get down get down. >> reporter: kathmandu is on edge, but what's happening on the slopes of mt. everest is far less clear. there were more avalanches sunday trails and camps swept away. at least three americans have died on the mountain. a few dozen survivors have been rescued. it's unknown how many people are trapped on everest. a military official told us here that teams are now heading out to remote parts of nepal, which are difficult to access even under normal circumstances and which now may be completely inaccessible. >> richard engel, thank you. coming up a pair of huge events for 2016 republican hopefuls woeing big money in vegas and iowa.
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it's a big weekend for republicans looking toward 2016. many gop players were in las vegas for mostly a private meeting of the republican jewish coalition. the main attraction billionaire casino magnet shelden adelson and his checkbook. also this weekend, in iowa nearly a dozen declared or potential candidates met to woe evangelical voters. here with me in miami, mike pa
paluto of politico. you were in vegas, how would you characterize the meetings? >> well i mean there was a lot of stuff the press was actually not allowed to go into but in terms of the public speeches i would say the biggest hit was probably ted cruz. he really hit a lot of the right buttons for that crowd. you know, it's all about adelson at that meeting and trying to impress him and trying to make a good impression with a particular donor crowd. and i think that cruz did a good job with that. >> is adelson speaking out or any indication who he's kind of leaning towards? >> well the word is that he really likes marco rubio, but i'm told he's not going to make a decision on who to support until after the second republican debate. >> mark all the republicans in iowa spoke out against same-sex marriage republicans think it's inevitable and a solid majority of americans support it why are they still talking about it this way? >> something that the base cares
about. remember, we're still in a republican primary if you're a republican, especially iowa. iowa skews heavily white evangelical, and in the end, polling shows that demographic is largely opposed to gay marriage or certainly kind of the legalization of it at either the state or federal level. >> so they want to hear people say it specifically. >> well, the candidates are acting like it and so far haven't seen the evidence to suggest that it hurts a republican candidate in a republican primary to go the other way, especially in a place like iowa again, a very conservative electorate. new hampshire is different, but south carolina again, conservative electorate when it comes to a primary. i made a mistake, should have said iowa is a caucus. >> rosie, george w. bush was in vegas, criticizing the iran nuclear deal and the u.s. withdraw from iraq. what exactly did he say? it was kind of off the record his chat wasn't it? >> yeah this was in a closed door session, but apparently he
criticized obama's iran policy and said that it wasn't -- that sanctions shouldn't be lifted and this is pretty rare for george w. bush because he usually doesn't make a lot of these sort of public criticisms of obama. >> yeah, although again, it wasn't really public right? >> well semi-public, i guess i would say. >> mark talk to me about george w. bush factor for jeb. >> maybe -- i'd like to see more polling on it, but maybe in a republican primary this is good but i can't see this being good for bush assuming he gets through the primary into the general election. in the end, his brother's foreign policy is viewed negatively by the public at large. it's a balancing act, i'm not my brother, not my brother, not my brother, yet he's essentially had no daylight between his foreign policy and his brother. >> really so far, george w. bush since he left office has been very quiet about criticizing president obama or the administration's policies in general, right, and this was kind of a slip-up to that
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developing now, new reaction to bruce jenner's public revelation he's always believed he's female. jenner's step daughter kim kardashian-west spoke exclusively to nbc's matt lauer on the "today" show. >> every emotion you could possibly imagine. there is hundreds of family meetings. we still have them. say what you want about us but we work out everything as a family and we have the best communication, and we are so in sync with each other. i love having so many siblings and such a supportive mom, because each family member might be dealing with this in a different way, but we have each other to go through this experience with. and i'm really grateful for that. >> executive director of the transgender defense and legal education fund michael silver good to see you. >> thanks for having me on. >> we heard kim kardashian-west's reaction to
this personal revelation what was your reaction? >> first, congratulations to bruce jenner. it can be so difficult to carry a secret for so long and it just must feel incredible in this moment for bruce, so all my best personal wishes to him and his family. also incredible to see kim and the rest of the family supporting bruce at this incredibly personal moment for bruce and for the family. you know, nearly 17 million people tuned in to hear bruce talk about his journey and the personal struggle that he's experienced in such a relatable way. i think everyone can understand the importance of being true to one's self and for most of the people who are watching they don't know anyone or didn't know anyone who was openly transgender before the interview, and that is just a great opportunity to talk about these issues. >> yeah and i want to play for you part of the interview with bruce jenner with abc news'
diane sawyer. >> for all intents and purposes i am a woman. people look at me differently, they see you as this macho male but my heart and my soul and everything that i do in life, it is part of me, that female side is part of me. that's who i am. why now? i just can't pull the curtain any longer okay? i've built a nice little life i just can't -- again, bruce lives a lie, she is not a lie. i can't do it anymore. >> such an interesting interview, and michael, you know, with a family like that you know the entire family seems like they are on tv 24 hours a day and there's so much salesmanship going on. in this interview it was so personal, it was so direct. it felt so real that i think that it's going to have an
impact. and as you said michael, the opportunity to have this discussion, i think, is so important. >> i agree, jose. bruce's words were so heartfelt. it's impossible not to be touched and moved by them. bruce is now one of the world's most famous openly transgender people and the interview has shined a spotlight on the challenges that transgender people face. you know, bruce talked about it in the interview, he talked about the difficulties that transgender people have doing simple everyday things like trying to find and hold jobs in the face of rampant job discrimination, and it's important to note too, as incredible as it's been to see the family support for bruce, not every transgender people have that. people face rejection from family, friends, and community. go ahead. >> i was just going to tell you, the other thing i found important is he says that from really early on he knew he was at the time a girl felt it and
yet a lot of what he decided to do in his life was in reaction to the fact that he couldn't be seen as a girl at the time. >> there is tremendous discrimination that transgender people face and just tremendous social forces that keep people from being honest about who they are. of course, what we want to do is create a world and create the opportunity for people to be honest and open about who they are, and i think that is going to be one of the long-term impacts of the interview. i'll tell you a little personal anecdote, i got an e-mail last night from a friend. she's transgender and has adult children, and one of the children was having a difficult time with her gender transition my friend's gender transition and the child wrote to my friend and said you know, i watched the bruce jenner interview and i'm ready to move forward. how incredible is that? if that is the only kind of
impact that the interview has, then bruce should be walking on air, because it's incredible. >> and, i think important that we continue to have this conversation. do so respectfully and listening to each other, even the questions, even the fears, even the reaction may it be negative i think it's important to talk about it in this way and continue this conversation. >> i agree, jose. what was so wonderful about the interview was it gave people the faith to ask questions, to wonder what is the experience in being transgender like and to ask themselves are there people in my life who might be transgender and don't have the space to come out, who don't have the kind of support that bruce has, so i think the interview was a remarkable success. >> michael, thank you. it's a pleasure to see you. >> thank you so much jose. >> take care. now to wall street, where investors are chewing on a new report on chipotle which is making a bold move when it comes to its menu. cnbc mandy drury, good morning.
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joining me now is with us msnbc's national reporter irin carmon, who's covered this in court closely. good morning. >> good morning, jose. >> what's at stake for these plaintiffs tomorrow? >> well jose the last time the supreme court looked at this issue it struck down a federal defense of marriage act, which said the states that had sanctified gay marriage, the couples married in those states could not be recognized, but it left alone the question of whether the bans in states such as california were unconstitutional. now the couples that have gotten married in other states are bringing challenges to the bans across the country that were passed at the state level, some of those constitutional bans some of those legislative bans and they said that the 14th amendment of the constitution requires their marriages to be recognized either by the state itself recognizing someone else's marriage a marriage in another state, or that they have a right to be married, fundamentally to be included into the institution of marriage under the constitution.
>> what are some of the legal arguments we're going to hear from those against same-sex marriage tomorrow? >> well the states defending their bans have essentially said states have a right to determine marriage that this is a time honored institution, and that the federal government has no business telling states what they can and can't do in this particular regard. there have been some other arguments because the states you know, they can be assisted by other advocacy groups they have said that the reason that the supreme court should not recognize same-sex marriage varies from it will make marriage decline among opposite sex couples, it will charge the same-sex couples, something expressed concern in the past. there's also an argument if the supreme court recognizes same-sex marriage that will harm same-sex attracted men to women because it will say gay marriage is what they should be aspiring to. so you have a range of arguments that the supreme court can look at tomorrow, but primarily, they
will probably engage with the issue of should the court step in on an issue that involves state governments or if there is a fundamental issue of rights violated with couples' marriages not being recognized. >> irin carmon thank you very much. >> thank you. joining me now is one of the voices on the other side of same-sex marriage debate from the heritage foundation. thanks for being with me. >> thanks for having me, happy to be with you. >> they call you the right voice on same-sex marriage. how is that the case? >> sure you know marriage has existed more or less throughout human history to unite a man and woman together as husband and wife so any children their union might produce will have a mother and father based on a bio logical fact reproduction requires a man and woman and social reality children deserve a mom and a dad. none of that is anti-anything or
anti-anyone. defending the truth about marriage is trying to uphold the goodness of marriage bringing the two halves of society so the mother and father who gave them life. >> do you think that's something the federal government should be saying, in other words, these definitions and distinctions is that something the federal government should be telling you what is the correct definition of it? >> well certainly not the court system. this shouldn't be an issue that's solved by the supreme court. this should be an issue by the people and our representatives. what we don't want to see happen is the supreme court say my preferred marriage policy or your preferred marriage policy is absolutely required or absolutely prohibited. this needs to be worked out democratically democratically. >> the states, for example, the states should have the right to decide on their own? not make it part of the national law structure? >> yeah we're having a huge
national conversation right now about the meaning of marriage what is marriage. some people think it's a generalist institution, the supreme court justices have no greater insight on how to answer that question than you and i have, so we should settle this democratically and see what works best for the majority of americans. >> you know there's clearly a political angle to this. "new york times" headline this morning, well the gop is struggling with shifts on gay marriage. a new poll this morning shows a strong majority of voters favor same-sex marriage so if that's what the majority 58 to 34 look at the numbers, 58-34, then shouldn't that be the law of the land? >> well, democratically. if those are the true numbers. >> pretty strong. >> who knows, those are what the public opinion polls, polls that matter most are the polls that take place at the ballot boxes and these folks have defined marriage as a man and woman, if
people want to change that definition they have to have a vote and win the vote. public opinion poll isn't a substitute for actual election. >> what's the election you're calling for or think should happen? >> democratically in all 50 states. each and every state need to decide what their state law will be with respect to marriage and not be second guessing the decisions that the citizens in the states have made. they have good reasons for defining marriage in the junior of a man and woman, husband and wife and unelected judges shouldn't be throwing out those reasons and voices. >> ryan thank you, appreciate your time. >> sure thing. >> we'll be watching the court closely tomorrow. now to developing details on the deadly boat race out of alabama. last hour the coast guard ruled four boaters still missing following a storm, the fifth boater located safe at home overnight. this video shows the violent conditions tearing through a regatta on saturday with winds gusting up to 70 miles an hour. two boaters are confirmed dead. the conditions on the open water
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colorado. john good morning. >> reporter: good morning, jose. right now a final pre-trial conference going on. as you say the opening arguments will be in few hours. this isn't so much a who done it as what made him do it. the question is what made him do it, the defense says it was an act of insanity it was a psychotic break. the prosecution says it was a calculated act of revenge and anger and to prove their point, the point to bolster their point, they pointed out what the planning went into this the amount of ammunition he amassed, the plans he made about the attack in the theater, booby trapping his apartment, and legal analysts say that's going to be the toughest obstacle for the defense as they bleed not guilty by reason of insanity. they have to convince the jurors that not only was he insane when he committed the crime, but he was insane when he took all
those steps leading up to the crime. legal analysts say it would be different if he just stood up in the theater and started shooting but because he did these steps leading up to it it raises the challenge for the defense in this case jose. >> and the shooting happened nearly three years ago. why has it taken so long? >> yeah nothing has been quick about this case jose. there were fights about the venue, the defense wanted to move it out of this county. there were fights about the mental status of james holmes. the prosecution objected to the first psychologist examination, they said it was biased they pushed for a second. we don't know what's in either of those exams. clearly, there was something in the first one that bothered the defense. then the jury selection took a long time. they had to call 9,000 people jurors one of the largest jury pools ever. 95% of them have filled out questionnaires said they had read something about the case
already. and 68% of them said that they had already decided that james holmes was guilty. so it took a long time to weed that down to get a -- to get 12 jurors and 12 alternates and this trial the judge says could last until labor day. jose? >> john yang thank you very much. i want to turn back now to nepal. experts say while the earthquake that struck the area devastating it was not unexpected just a week ago researchers had gathered in kathmandu to discuss preparations for a quake that could do major damage citing concerns about the overpopulated capital and the fault line along the himalayas that produces a big earthquake every 75 years or so. there are also growing concerns about earthquakes here in the united states, and while we're not talking about anything on the scale of what happened in nepal, the u.s. geological survey just released a report linking the oil and gas drilling process known as fracking to a spike in earthquakes in places like oklahoma and texas.
josh fox is the producer and director of two documentary films on fracking called "gas land" and "gas land 2." good morning. >> good morning. >> people thought fracking was linked to earthquakes, but what does this report tell snus. >> once again we have science coming in and telling us what citizens have been expecting and reporting for years. i interviewed people in arkansas and also cited reports from ohio where fracking and injection wells, which is the injection of waste water produced by fracking back down under the earth, was causing earthquakes. people were obsessed by this. they were tracking earthquakes using plum bogs in their living rooms, where they were tracking earthquakes by just sensing the shakes in the ground, then going on the geological survey and sure enough it turns out that fracking and injection wells cause earthquakes. a lot of people are asking what took the government so long to confirm this fact when people
have been sensing this and reporting on this for years now. >> so is it not true though these earthquakes or tremors have occurred in places where in the past there haven't been or is this it's brand new, never been any kind of earth shaking before until fracking started? >> these are incredibly unusual. youngstown, ohio had an earthquake. right now oklahoma is experiencing two earthquakes per day. they have the largest earthquake in oklahoma recorded history, i believe, at a 5.7, so they are getting larger much more frequent. the list of ills that comes from fracking just keeps growing and growing and growing and growing. we're talking about water contamination, air pollution, a health crisis earthquakes, we know that the frac waste and the frac gas is radioactive, and, of course, the most destructive impacts are those on our democracy. the oil and gas industry influences the way our government does business every single day of the week and what's happening now, what's
even more ironic oklahoma the day after we confirmed this oklahoma passed a law that said that local townships and municipalities could not ban fracking. so not only are they not taking efforts to stop the earthquakes, they are actually doubling down on making it harder for citizens to prevent this destructive activity from happening in their townships. oklahoma just banned fracking bans, it's unbelievable. >> remember, josh these are elected officials that are taking these positions, right? >> that's the truth. even more troubling is that right now barack obama with the tpp, the transpacific partnership, is moving to do something on the level of what oklahoma has done the transpacific partnership has the potential to overall fracking bans in states. as you probably know new york state banned fracking throughout the entire state because the government looked at this and said according to the science and the health impacts we don't want any part of this. the tpp could threaten to overturn those bans by giving corporate power to things that
are democratically passed laws things citizens should have power over. >> josh you're opening up a whole big discussion that i want to have with you in the future and more information to come in. i appreciate your time. >> thank you very much. >> josh fox, thanks. minutes from now, the funeral for freddie gray begins in baltimore. thousands have taken to the streets since the 25 year old suffered a deadly spinal injury in police custody died last week. also loretta lynch will be sworn in as the nation's 83rd attorney general. we'll look at what's top on the agenda for our nation's top justice official on "the rundown". (mom) when our little girl was born we got a subaru.
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us. >> well, jose it's a huge church here but really a intimate feel inside piano music, choir singing, the last few people streaming in going up by that casket and paying their last respects, but we might get the feel for the sermon on either side of the white casket there's a projection on the wall black lives matter and all lives matter. contrast that to a sign i saw just about a mile away from here that said they did it to freddie gray, they'll do it to you, too. there's tremendous distrust in this community and that is a big problem. the family is urging the community after a weekend of unrest to be peaceful. fredricka gray the twin sister of freddie gray says that freddie gray would not have wanted violence. she and city officials are calling on demonstrators to keep it peaceful. jose? >> brian mooar, thank you very much. i want to take you now to washington and live pictures of history in the making. at the top of the hour loretta lynch will be sworn in as the nation's 83rd attorney general,
first african-american woman in the position. she takes over from eric holder who spent more than six years leading the justice department. joining me now, chris jansing and ari melber. chris, let's start with you. as we await the ceremony, we're also learning about a hack of the president's unclassified e-mails? >> reporter: yeah, more details. nbc first reported it jose back in october but "the new york times" is now reporting this hack was much more extensive than was originally expected or originally reported. now, they take pains to say this was not a hack of any classified information, but there was sensitive information, things like the president's daily schedule communications about appointments diplomatic communications. obviously, something of concern. now when you talk to white house officials about it they'll tell you, look it's important to note this wasn't classified stuff, on the other hand they'll tell you this is something they work on every day. obviously, it's a source of concern, it's happened at the state department it's happened
at the pentagon and so it is something that they are looking at every day. we should also say that classified information is journaling not handled on e-mail, it's usually handled in the oval office or the situation room, either delivered orally person to person or in writing. but that's also something they want to continue to work on every day, as well making sure that that classified stuff on those particular portions of the e-mail system within the government are secure, as well jose. >> chris, back to what's happening at the justice department, this is a big day, one that the white house has been waiting for for months. >> as you monthed out, historic and something they waited a long time for. 166 days from the time that loretta lynch was nominated to the time she actually was voted in by the senate and that's i think, as much as or more than the previous seven nominees. she's somebody who has a really great reputation in the eastern district of new york where she served twice as u.s. -- former
u.s. attorney and she's done everything from being the lead on stopping an al qaeda not against u.s. subways, to bringing charges against the former republican congressman michael grimm. so the vice president is going to be swearing her in shortly. >> ari, what can we expect to be job one for her? >> well, as chris was mentioning this is a former prosecutor out of brooklyn who's prosecuted isis cases and been preventive in the area of terror, and i think that combined with the cyber threat are two areas where we're going to see her really step up and try to make sure that there's a coordinated strategy from the united states. we just saw, of course reporting out of minnesota recently where you also had these prosecutions from another u.s. attorney it will be important to coordinate those efforts up to the national security division in washington here in her tenure. i think that's going to be a big
priority. >> just in so many ways she's different than the former attorney general. >> yeah, i think, look if you look at their backgrounds, yes, they were both prosecutors, but holder spent time as a judge, spent time in private practice brought a really policy oriented approach, you could say. i think that's something that his critics and supporters would agree on they just disagree on some of the emphasis that he brought. loretta lynch is a prosecutor's prosecutor why she had such strong support from police and law enforcement folks out here in new york and i think that's going to be her focus. there's always a policy and coordination considerations in this job, because you're the chief law enforcement officer, but you're going to see, i think, the nose to the grindstone approach and emphasis on cases and particularly national security and it is a little bit, i would say, like cia in the sense that the doj can get 9 out of 10 or 99 out of 100 cases right. as soon as they miss something, someone does get to an operational plot that's always
considered a giant error, so she's going to be looking at being proactive on that right out of the gate. >> ari melber and chris jansing, thank you so much. ari, we'll catch you on "the cycle" as we do every day. before i go i want to just take you back to baltimore to the church as we've been reporting all morning, and brooirn moore was talking about the signs that are up on top of the projection screens. you can see one there, "all lives matter." that wraps up "the rundown" on msnbc. thank you for the privilege of your time. continuing coverage out of baltimore, plus the loretta lynch swearing in on "news nation" with tamron hall. see you tomorrow. it's time for the "your business" entrepreneur of the week. mark owns six restaurants in the reno/lake tahoe area. realizing many of them have the same needs he created reno provisions, a bakery for bread, butchery for meat plus pastas and pastries now he serves
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about to get under way and thousands are expected to attend after a week of protests after his death. much more on that in a minute. first, after waiting longer than the last seven attorneys general combined loretta lynch is about to be sworn in as the 83rd attorney general of the united states. lynch was confirmed last week by the senate after a contentious five-month delay. she is the first african-american woman attorney general. president obama nominated lynch a federal prosecutor from new york back in november to succeed eric holder. republicans held up that vote objecting to lynch's support of the president's use of executive action on immigration. nbc justice correspondent pete williams joins me now. you have not far away in baltimore this funeral for mr. grey, and one of the things loretta lynch would like to implement immediately is meeting with the heads of the police departments across the co