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breaking news, the curfew in mault baltimore has been lifted. the mayor thanking people for their patience and saying the violence may be over, but there's more work to do. >> i think a lot of the unrest has settled down in terms of protests. that doesn't mean the work doesn't continue. we have been since last year working on collaborative review, in the process of improving our police department, reforming our police department and putting in place things that will eliminate this type of incident from ever happening again. also this afternoon, maryland's republican governor larry hogan, is in baltimore. he spoke about 15 minutes ago about the relief that came with today's announcement. >> it's been a rough week. let's get back to normal in the city and get people back to work and school. get peopling to visit the shops
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that were devastated this week and the smallest mom and pop stores and restaurants. they need your help. we want to encourage everybody to come to the safe. it's safe. we've got calm and peace, something we haven't seen for a while. >> the announcement of the curfew being lifted followed a night of relative calm in the city. there were several arrests saturday after a handful of protesters violated that curfew. the six baltimore police officers charged in freddie gray's death are scheduled to appear in court at the end of the month. all six have a preliminary hearing scheduled may 27. if the judge finds there is probable cause to support the charges, the case will then move to circuit court to begin preparations for trial. let's go to msnbc national correspondent joy reed standing outside of st. peter claver church. and you were inside the church as the governor walked in. give me a sense of how parishioners in reacted to seeing their statewide elected official respond to all their issues in the city. >> reporter: absolutely. a good strong and robust cheer
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for governor larry hogan as he entered st. peter claver catholic church this morning. he was warmly received by a congregation. it was swollen by a lot of visitors. people seemed to be glad he was here. i spoke with a young man outside the church who said he was a lifelong democrat who voted for hogan because he felt he was responsive to the community. he definitely had some fans here in the church this morning. and then after that, he came outside, walked to our cameras and talked to the press briefly about the issue that has been rankling those here north of the famous intersection which was the curfew. it was lifted this morning by the mayor. and the governor said that he spoke with the mayor, and they agreed it was time for the curfew to end. take a listen to what governor hogan said. >> the mayor and i both talked and agreed that we think it's time to get the community back to normal again. you know, it's been a very hard week. we've kept everybody safe since
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monday night. we haven't had any serious problems. i just thank everybody for their help in keeping the calm keeping the peace. we couldn't have done it without them. it will take a while to get totally back to normal. i think lifting occur sfu a-- curfew is a good idea. >> reporter: at the same time the governor was speaking here at st. peter claver, the mayor, stephanie rawlings-blake, was giving a press conference of her own at the mondawmin mall which is where a lot of the unrest began last week. she talked about the city coming back together to heal. >> right now i'm very confident. we've seen not just the resiliency of our city but communities coming together. we want to heal our city. we know we have challenges in baltimore, there's work to be done. what you saw in these last few days with the peaceful demonstrations and people coming
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together to celebrate is that will that we will get better, we will get through this and do it as one baltimore. >> reporter: i can tell you that inside of that church the archdiocese, william laurie spoke to one of the issues that will be an ongoneing challenge. i'm across the street from abandoned buildings. this community has needs that go beyond policing. people we've spoken to want to see the mayor, governor and other officials address those issues as well as the issues that are raised by freddie gray's death. back to you. >> okay. i appreciate your expertise. you've been on the ground, done a fantastic job. thank you very much for reporting. let's had to msnbc's reporter from baltimore doing a great job this week. this area where you are is really kind of the money shot, if you will, that is the cvs that was burned and destroyed. it is a pivotal entity within the community.
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talk about, first, people's reaction to lifting that curfew and the sense of relief that comes with that. >> reporter: people are excited as the curfew is being lifted. the information is going out consistently. some people know some don't know. earlier we told the cab driver that the curfew had been lifted, and he was excited. he didn't know. you talk about the importance of this cvs in this location, in this area. we have the man who owns the building that the cvs is located in steve stone, who is actually a new yorker. how did you learn that the building that you own, that skrfs located -- cvs is located in was being burned and looted? >> i got a call from my property manager in the state. and informed me that the building's being looted. >> reporter: how did you feel? >> shocked. absolutely shocked. when i went to where i could view it and see i was amazed. i felt helpless.
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i told him to call 911. he tells me he's calling 911, the line is busy. they know about it. and it's an unfortunate situation. >> reporter: you've owned this building for four years, the cvs was already here. you wanted to be in this area. you wanted to own something in this area because you believe in this area, is that right? >> yes. i believe that this is -- looks to me as an area that's trying to rebuild with the nice residential apartment they have down the block. this nice senior center, this is a train station, this is a main hub. and i felt like this was a very good investment. this is a needed property for this area. the services that they provide is very -- needed for this area. and felt very comfortable with this investment. >> reporter: is it heartbreaking when you see folks looting and burning a building you own? >> yes, especially when it services their area very well. so it's going to be out of service for a time to get this to work. but yes, it's very unfortunate.
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>> reporter: you want to rebuild? >> things are up in the air now. but that would be my general intention, yes. i would like to try to rebuild, maybe make improvements to make it make sense, to make it make more sense. a little concerned as if it was rebuilt that this would happen again, though. >> reporter: steve stone landlord where the cvs is located. back to you. >> thank you very much. appreciate that. well as word was getting to residents, official word that the curfew has been lifted. this comes with a new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll the most startling number, 96% of people expect to see similar violence and protests in other u.s. cities this summer. we should note, this poll was conducted before the charges were announced friday against six baltimore police officers. joining me, todd johnson, managing editor of
10:10 am this number 96% here that's a figure that's consistent among both white and african-american respondents. so to what do you attribute that? >> these polls are always tricky. alex, understand the time in which this poll was conducted was right after freddie gray's funeral. those were two days of destructive behavior that we saw playing out with news cameras i think that's part of why folks expect something like it to happen again. 's also-- it's also the times we're living in with cameras and almost, you know no excuses anymore not to know what's going on in some communities. and not to kind of see with your own eyes sort of the frustration of the day-to-day realities in neighborhoods like freddie gray that he grew up in and lived in. i think that contribute to people thinking something like this might happen again. also, racial disturbances is sort of a -- again a bit of an
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odd way to frame it. you know, you could kind of make the argument that this country is one long history of racial disturbances. i also think, you know african-americans feel like their lives and their situations shouldn't be a disturbance to -- to america. to media. it's just their day-to-day life. almost like a life disturb an. i think that's all playing into this -- this answer in the poll. the difference is why they think that this is going to happen again. >> yeah. but thus the social media movement there, black lives matter. i want to play something for you that maryland congresswoman elightninga -- elijah cummings said. here it is. >> i don't want people to get the impression that people are happy/happy. it's more relief. and so what -- they see there are people who had lost hope in the criminal justice system. our criminal just system is--
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justice system is on trial. >> is there a sense of relief? is it the justice system that will be on trial? >> i think what the congressman is saying is exactly right. i think it's relief. i think it's a sense of acknowledgment that here is this woman, this city state's attorney kind of putting a validation on so many of the residents in baltimore who feel like they don't have a fair shake. that feel like no one is paying attention or listening to them or even trying to understand the day-to-day realities that they live in. i mean, we're talking about very bad and very, almost depressing levels of unemployment and homicides and shootings and the life expectancy rate of some of these children that have growing up in areas like this, it's -- it breaks your heart. so i think the announcement on friday was one of relief. but also almost like a stamp on what so many are experiencing
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on a day-to-day level. and acknowledgment that their lives matter and that you know there may be justice that prevails whether we talk about what's going to happen to some of the law enforcement officers. which is something i think before friday's announcement that people lose hope that that is possible. that it's possible for them to be prosecuted. it's possible for them to be seen in the public light as criminals. but that that same level of scrutiny is not given to law enforcement officials and officers who they feel have kind of overstepped their bounds. >> yeah. i want to look at startling numbers from the nbc news/"wall street journal" poll. specifically the big discrepancy in how whites and african-americans view the violence that accompanied these freddie gray protests. the most african-americans see it as the result of long-standing frustrations. most whites see it as the result of people using the protests as an excuse to loot. i don't know if you heard the end of the last hour, but my guest there, and specifically
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michael michael higgen bathambotham said that we have to agree there's a problem, identify it and move forward. how does society prevent further violence when it doesn't seem to agree on the cause of it? >> well that's an interesting point, alex, because you see there's kind of a disconnect there as to what is behind all of this frustration. and i think it speaks to perspective, and if your introduction to black lives matter or if your introduction to people of color in neighborhoods like freddie gray lives in in baltimore, if your introduction to that is seeing the cvs being burned on national television, if your introduction to that frustration is seeing a young teen put a bat through a police window, then you're going to be disconnected as to why they're doing that. but for black folks, for a lot of black folks, you know, that frustration is a symptom of something so much larger.
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a day-to-day lived experience. they know the frustration in areas and attribute it to not just last week but decades and decades and generations and generations of inequality and anger and frustration. and again, in -- in sandtown, this neighborhood freddie gray lives in, in baltimore you know, the police don't have this stellar and sterling record with the community that they may lead you to believe. i mean from 2011 and to 2014 nearly $6 million paid to victims of brutality in baltimore. that number is startling. now if you don't focus on that and only focus on the destruction of property, the 200 number that was seen in your last hour, businesses destroyed then your understanding is going to be a little skewed as to why all of this is going on. >> all right. if only we could spend time walking in each other's shoes for a while, that might help. until that happens, todd johnson, thank you very much. >> thank you.
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the events in baltimore dominated sunday morning talk shows. in an exclusive interview on "meet the press," house speaker john boehner had this reaction. >> do you believe we're in a national crisis when it comes to the relationship tobetween african-americans and law enforcement? >> i do. i think if you look at what's happened over the course of the last year, you've got to scratch your head. when you hear it these charges that have been brought -- >> charging homicide for freddie gray -- >> public servants should not violate the law. if these charges are true, it's outrageous, and it's
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unacceptable. >> joining me is michael steele former rnc chair and lieutenant governor of maryland. and howard dean former dnc chair and vermont governor. glad to have you here. >> good to see you. >> michael, as former lieutenant governor and former resident of baltimore, what was your reaction to the state attorney's decision to charge the six officers involved in freddie gray's arrest? >> i think that she had come to the table with a thorough review of the facts as she had been able to gather them. i think a lot of things that were -- a lot of stuff that was missed was her statement saying we began this process. immediately hearing of mr. gray's death. so this was an ongoing process. it wasn't something that just was done in the past week when all the uproar and focus was on the rioting in the city. so i thought that she put together a good team. she's come -- she came to the table very forthrightly with transparency. she laid out the fact pattern. she laid out the argument.
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and now she's got the very difficult job of going out and proving that. she stood in the face of the police union pushing back on her a little bit. she's going to get a lot more over the next few weeks. but i thought she came out strong and was good to see. and hear -- i think it was healing for the city. >> can i ask you, michael do you think this is an isolated incident, though? in your tenure as lieutenant governor of maryland and as a long-time resident of the city of baltimore, certainly not a depraved heart murder charge. but had the heard about police abuses and believe that this not isolated at all? >> hello -- yeah. >> hello? >> yeah. i mean this has been an ongoing problem for some time. it was exacerbated between 1999 and 2007 with the very aggressive, you know policing policies that the o'malley administration had on the street where literally men, particularly black men, were arrested for standing on street
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corners, some arrested standing on stoops. in the course of the first year 100,000 individuals had been arrested, and a population of 600,000. i mean, when you're arresting 1/6 of your population, 20,000 of which were automatically thrown out by the courts because there was no basis in fact to arrest these individuals. so this has been stewing for a long long time. and i think it finally came to a head. and it's causing people to look at policing in big cities and this idea of zero tolerance, you know, stop and frisk. we saw it played out in baltimore -- new york, as well. the anger that people have with these policies. >> okay. howard, let's listen now to what former maryland governor former baltimore mayor martin o'malley said on "meet the press" this morning. >> we need an agenda for american cities, we need to stop ignoring especially people of color. and act like they're disposable citizens in this nation. that's not how our economy is supposed to work. it's not how our country works. >> as you know, martin o'malley
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potential presidential candidate here declared candidates hillary clinton, senator rand paul, have weighed in on these issues facing the big cities like baltimore. so do you see baltimore and the related issues becoming an issue in 2016? >> i do, especially baltimore. each one of these incidents ferguson through staten island and baltimore are different. baltimore underlined -- this is not just about race. first of all, three of the cops are african-american out of the six that were accused. you have black prosecutor bringing the charges. to say race has nothing do with it would be ridiculous. but the big issue sheer poverty and opportunity. and i think a lot of this is the unfinished business of the '60s. one of the things i was pleased to see is that there were white kids in the street at these protests. not throwing stuff through the cvs window but the vast majority of these protests were peaceful black and white, coming
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together. it underlines that income equality, having a dream for all, not just the billionaires that citizens united has been able to own the process, that's going to be the big deal. i think that was a major issue before and now's a bigger issue. why aren't we reinvesting in cities instead of giving billionaires tax cuts? >> yeah. >> it's more than that. a lot of investment has been placed in these cities. i know in our administration we worked to try to -- tried to work closely with prince george's and baltimore city on a number of initiatives that address education address small business. i spearheaded small business reform in our state. the problem is the system resists the change that's necessary to move forward. this isn't just about throwing dollars at the problem. this is about setting priorities, having the community behind it, and more importantly, having the political leadership and will to implement it. that's what's missing. >> where does that begin? to both of you, where does that begin? i'm a mom and think about maybe
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it begins at home. how do you regulate that? how do you influence that as politicians? >> you don't regulate it at home. i do think 0 to3, i thought early childhood education, 0 to 3, is critical. we need high standards in all the schools and need an opportunity for every kid to blomp that means high standards -- to blossom. that means high standards in all the schools. if you go to charter schools, as long as they're not for profit than as it may. that means investing in neighborhoods like baltimore, northeast baltimore, northwest baltimore, and not investing in hedge funds and tax breaks for carried interests for wall street and things like that. it does make a difference -- >> that's not what cities are doing. cities aren't investing in hedge funds and tax breaks. cities are working with the resources at -- >> no, no michael, i'm talking about the tax code. michael, i'm talking about the tax code -- >> okay. okay. i'm not -- >> preferentially drives money away from the cities.
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>> let's talk about the dollars we have on the table. not the dollars we could potentially get through the tax code. this is about -- >> that's not enough. >> governor you know and i know as a lieutenant governor that running a state, this trickles down, federal money comes in it gets blocked at the state level. the counties the cities don't see these dollars. they're their are all kinds of mechanisms that go in places. deal with the dollars on the table. how do we prioritize the dollars. you also, to your other point, as the parent who is disengaged. dollars aren't going to help necessarily. getting into the communities, having the conversation with moms and dads who are not present in educating their children, in making them present for that child. >> i'm coming around to the right on this. i think that private enterprise can do a better job because -- the city -- public enterprise, public government has failed. we failed for 40 years. i'm interested in getting private money in here. you can't get private money in here when the tax code entice
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that's private money into things like -- entices things like private money into things like fault swaps. you need to change, it drive private investment into areas, and insist on schools with high standards. >> got it. >> all right. you got it, too. i think our viewers did, as well. thank you very much. so many more questions to ask, just means you both have to come back soon. thank you. >> thank you. in a moment the joy in jolly old england and ama. if you take multiple medications, a dry mouth can be a common side effect. that's why there's biotene.
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welcome back to "weekends with alex witt." with the occur tuesday being lift friday baltimore -- curfew being lifted in baltimore, resident say it's another stop toward healing the city. governor hogan visited a church and later spoke with reporters. let's listen to what he said about getting the city back to normal. >> it's been a really rough week. let's get back to normal in the city. get people back to work and back to school. get people coming back into the city to visit the shops that were really devastated this week and that -- small amount of mom and pop stores and restaurants, they need your help. we want to encourage everybody to come back to the city. it's safe. we've got calm and peace something that we haven't seen in a little. >> joining me, baltimore security councilwoman helen holton. welcome to you, ma'am. when you think about getting back to normal is it going to be a new normal or do you think you can get back to life as it was before this last week?
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should you? >> i don't want us to get back to life as it was. i think it's time to establish a new normal. and taking to light the issues that have gotten us to this point where we are now. it's an incredible opportunity to rewrite the script of life in baltimore. one that take on head on the issues that have led to the disruption of the past week. >> what is it that you want to see in the various communities and certainly the one that you represent in terms of evidence of healing? is it healing within the community itself is it different elements of the community all coming together? i mean it's probably a combination. >> it's a combination of all those things. and rather than to segregate the city in terms of districts and things of that nature these issues are prevalent throughout our city. whether you're talking north, south, east, or west you will find these same systemic problems taking place that have gotten us here where we are
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today. if you look at the murder rate the arrest rate the homelessness rate, if you look at children in foster care if you look at unemployment take a pick. you can take any issue and find that the statistics in baltimore city are greater than any place else in our state. and it's not just baltimore because if you look to any urban center you'll find similar demographics. baltimore is votecase. >> it is auto -- is the showcase. >> it is. all eyes baltimore. it's been said baltimore is america. it's echoing your sentiment. in term of the optics ma'am what kind of impact does governor hogan visiting that church have on restoring faith in the community? when people leave that church how long do you think a goodwill will exist? >> i think that it will be short-lived. people talk all the time.
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it's not what you say, it's what you do. people don't care how much you care until -- how much you know until they know how much you care. we had to take drastic measures in a period of time to restore peace. now that we're restoring peace, it's time for all of us to roll up our sleeves and go to work. we have a lot of work to do. and i just want to say that even today at city hall at 3:00, there's going to be a peaceful protest led by the faith community. there is power in peaceful movements. i'm reminded of spike lee's movie of "malcolm x." you talk about peace and power. when you had black men standing without words being spoken and the power that that represented in bringing about change in america. so i don't believe that the protests here will stop in baltimore until we can see proof of reform. proof of action to address these
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issues that have been systemic in our communities for decades. so it's not a new issue that has cropped up now. it is an issue we must address right now. >> in terms of the work ahead, my colleague spoke with the building owner where the cvs was burned out. let's listen to what he said about rebuilding it. >> okay. >> it's up in the air of what i'm going to do. i have intentions to try to rebuild. hopefully make improvements to make it better than it was. cvs is a vital service to this area. >> is this the kind of lesson that you want to come from this incident? you have a looted building burned out building but it's all about rebuilding? >> absolutely. it's not just about rebuilding cvs, it's about rebuilding and investing in lives.
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it wasn't brick and mortaretar that burned that cvs. there were people who were frustrated at their wits' end. it reminds me of "i'm sick and tired of being sick and tired." this generation doesn't relate to the struggles of the past. that speaks to our education system. you only know what you know. you don't know what you don't know. and so educating people on our history, a rich history in the african-american community and what we fight for, what we continue to fight for. so i'm elated the cvs wants to rebuild. i want to see other national organizations -- corporations come and invest in our city. we're people just like in other communities. we will support the organizations, businesses, that invest in our community. that provide job opportunities in our community. we, too, are america and deserve to be treated like the rest of america. >> baltimore alaskancity councilwoman,
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a subaru. we've gone from royal baby watch to royal baby name watch. there's no telling when we're going to find out the little princess' name. this adorable picture of her, it was the debut on the front cover of just bevery major paper in the u.k. let's take a look. "the sun," "sleepy cutie." "the toronto star,"" "her royal highness princess cutie." the telegraph" breaking down how her mother, the duchess of cambridge, walked out of the hospital looking stunning less than ten hours after delivering her baby girl. nbc's kelly cobiella joins us from london. i don't know about you but i feel completely inadequate. really? that having been said, it took i think will and kate a couple of days to make prince george's name public. what are the bets on this one? how long will it take to announce his sister's name? >> reporter: you know, i bet
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they are betting on that. i haven't even checked the bookies' lines on that yet. i'm sure you can place a boat when the name will be announced at this point. you know, the going names according to the bookies are still in the same order. they've changed a little over the passed couple of days, but generally alice, charlotte, i think elizabeth or victoria might be next. those two are sort of interchangeable. olivia popped up on the list recently, as well. yeah. diana has been in there but that's a sensitive topic. there's speculation that maybe diana's name will be a second or third name for the princess but not the primary name. then others speculates that they could use -- speculate they could use anything as a traditional name as long as there's a name she could use if she should ascend to the throne. that's something that roshtd jobbert
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jobson, who you know well, has talked about. it's not necessarily the first name that is the name used by the monarch. it might be the second third, fourth fifth who knows, depending how long the name is. you know we waited -- the public waited for a week to hear william's name. they heard herarry's name the moment he left the hospital. there is no rhyme or reason. >> the graphic you're putting up, it was a month until prince charles' name was announced back in the day. you mentioned robert jobson royal watcher and friend to us at msnbc. let's bring robert into the conversation, as well. robert i know that people are talking about the fact that charles and camilla paid their respects, came by to see the baby. we had kate middleton's mother carol, her sister, now aunt pippa, she came by as well. do you think that we're going to have to have the queen make an appearance, though, and we know that she's seen the baby before the name will be announced or -- not necessarily?
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>> i don't think that's it's in. i understand the baby's name won't be announced tonight in the u.k. maybe it will happen tomorrow. now the grandparents have spent the afternoon with their little child. i think they're getting to know the child before they issue the name anyway. i think that's -- they will go to the country estate. the queen has been spending the weekend in norfolk, privately. she's not actually at her own house. she's at the main house. it's possible along the way that they can have their introduction in norfolk. and so i think that's possibly going to happen. >> yeah. and kelly i've got to ask about social media in terms of how it's blown up with how fantastic kate looked exiting in her second jenny backpackham-designed dress, leaving with a newborn baby. she's looks amazing. i can't believe she leaves ten hours after giving birth. it's remarkable. >> reporter: yeah, incredible.
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it's incredible. and twitter actually did -- >> go ahead. robert. >> all right. i'll take it. she was absolutely -- twitter was mad with this. women tweeting "i can't believe how good she looks. she doesn't look like she just gave birth to little girl. i didn't look like that when i gave birth -- ten hours after giving birth." yeah i think women across the twitter-sphere are absolutely astonished that she looked so lovely. this is a woman who seems to do everything right. everything perfectly. and we know that she's also very careful in speaking to the press. she hasn't given an interview, should he as far as i'm aware. she's a careful woman. she knows she's going watched. that every step is going watched. and she's been very careful to make sure every step is the right one. >> go ahead, robert. >> i would say to be fair to kate, i think some people are unfair actually.
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you see, she was just trying the to look the best that she could. she always tries to do that. it's different for other women. i'm just a man, what would i know? she's going to appear in front of the world's media. i think she wanted to look the best she could on the day she knew there would be historic photographs around the world. yes, she has a hairdresser to make her look glamorous. if she was any celebrity, anybody that was going to face that battery of cameras and photographers, i think most people would try look the best they could. >> absolutely. i give her props for this. the story's been how she looked exhausted and withered. it's about this brand new baby. there you go. she gave us a beautiful picture, beautiful family. and i thank you both for weighing in throughout the weekend. it's been fun talking with you both. kelly cobiella robert jobson. next, leaders in the technology world.
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in a new telemundo poll that looks at cell phone use, 74% of american cell phone users use a smart phone. only 30% of the smart phone users say they use the phone of it more than anything else. with digital functions, such as texting, e-mailing, checking the internet, that's all dominating their use. meanwhile, latinos are more than twice as likely to use phones to listen to music. emerge america continues today. the annual event held in miami. msnbc is a sponsor. brings together innovators, investin investors and brain wormersstormers in technology. a woman trains youth in the areas of technology and sberpkperp
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-- what was the genesis of this? you started this with your husband. >> my husband and i are tekkies and owned a stand to address the need for tech training in south florida and training our employees in the stores first. they were the first students. the program has grown. >> what i love about this you're working with kids. you're trying to get the -- ahead of the game with the kids. talk about that. what you hope to accomplish with them. sort of revitalize their lives and potential focus for careers. >> absolutely. for us, it's about bringing our communities up to code. the african-american community and also the caribbean community, here and in south florida. we're in the state of emergency when we talk about the students we have that are graduating every single year that don't have the exact skills that add value to employers or to create enterprises that will contribute back to our society.
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tech is that great equalizer. it's the thing that even if they decide not to go to college, they can still create a viable career or start up that could contribute back into the community. that's why it's so important to do this work and get them the skills but then also merge it with entrepreneurship so they can monetize their skills while they're young. >> these kids, get them off the couch, gameboys or whatever they're doing. one kid won second place, 15-year-old boy, a transportation app called pen stop. you've got to be so proud of seeing these kids put their ideas and literally write the code from start to finish with something that actually could go somewhere. >> that's the thing. young people have such amazing ideas. it's all stuck in here. so often, they're not given the skills or the opportunity or even exposed to the possibility that they can create something with their hands. they can make money from it, or even add value to our community. we have to get those ideas and
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that passion out of them and into something like a tangible product that they can put out into the world. >> felicia hatcher, it's extremely cool what you're doing with code fever. thank you for bringing it to us. msnbc is going to bring you more from the emerge america this week. it'll be tomorrow at 9:00 on the rundown. before we go quickly back to baltimore. our national correspondent, joy reid is there. the curfew has been lifted to the delight of the residents there and the congress gatfolks inside the church this morning. >> >> reporter: i have moved to city hall but the people are happy the curfew is lifted. the mayor, stephanie rawlings-blake made that announcement earlier today. i was over at the catholic church, where governor larry
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hogan got a warm reception from those who were assembled inside the church. i've learned it's two churches who have combined their congregations. afterwards he ensaid it was time for the city to come together and get back to work. he noted the millions of dollars in lost revenue for small businesses pop and mom businesses that had to be closed early because of the curfew. also people whose businesses were damaged. in some cases, lost everything because of the unrest here. a city that's definitely coming together. we're awaiting a rally being put on by the pastors here in baltimore. that is going to be a unity rally. all in the interest of unity, alex. >> joy, i've got 15 seconds for you to answer this. you were on the ground all week. what is your biggest take away? >> reporter: my biggest take away is this is a city whose residents love this city and who are close to one another, but who are devastated by what they see as a police department that's not responsive to them. there's a lot of healing to be done.
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