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this is "the ed show." >> the conservative dynasty in his 44th uninterrupted year. crushed. >> might have made a little bit of history tonight. >> plus -- >> more probable than not that the new england patriots intentionally deflated footballs later. >> warming up and expanding. >> increasingly a national security threat. >> could become unusable. >> i will help the opposition against the tpp. good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. we start with a story north of the border and it has an impact here at home. it's a political revolution that's unfolding in alberta, canada. this is absolutely horrible news for transcanada, as it could put the keystone xl pipeline totally at risk. on tuesday night, alberta conservatives were ousted after being in power for 44 years. the new democrats took 53 out of
87 seats in the province legislature. the conservatives were reduced to only 10 seats. what is going on here? this is a huge deal in canada. alberta is canada's largest oil producing province and holds the country's tar sands. this is the texas of canada. the international fairs correspondent, doug saunders puts things into perspective when he tweeted this out. to put what just happened in canada in context for you yanks imagine bernie sanders becoming texas governor by a big majority. that's got to put a smile on your face. the new democrats ran on a progressive platform. here's what's happening. they want to put forth and negotiate new climate policies. they ran on increasing the corporate tax rate and also oil and gas royalties. they also want to stop lobbying president obama to push for the
keystone xl pipeline. they don't want the project. alberta's new rachel motley is against the keystone. she's the speaker of alberta. some oil investors are worried about the change. alberta responsible for 78% of the canada's oil output. trying to calm the fears at a press conference on tuesday. >> i'll be reaching out to industry and they can count on us to work collaboratively with them and i am hopeful that over the course of the next two weeks, they will come to realize that things are going to be just a-okay over in alberta. >> this is not the end of the world for the oil companies, folks. the democrats just want to take care of the environment. they're talking about fracking don't want the oil coming out, increase taxes and produce oil in a responsible manner. they have a progressive agenda. they don't have full blown
citizens united. the big special interest money could not beat prairie populism. no billionaire was able to come in and spoil the will to the people of canada in this province. now keystone is on the ropes. a political revolution is possible. grassroots common sense and prairie populism can win. this is why i've always said hillary clinton shouldn't be afraid to come out and say that she is against the keystone xl pipeline. she shouldn't have to word smith it. senator bernie sanders has been sounding the alarm about spoiled elections and populous thinking for years. but when you look at it where's all the big special interest money to make sure that the conservatives can stay in power? how in the world did the people make this happen? look at their election laws. public funding, it's available. but you know what? there are spending limits. and there's also transparency north of the border as to who is giving the money. those provisions unlike what it's like in america. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think.
tonight's question can populism beat big money? go to pulse.msnbc.com/ed. cast your vote tonight. we'll bring you results in the next segment right here on "the ed show." we're joined by vashi kapelos and jane cleb of bold nebraska. great to have both with you tonight. vashi, how big of a transition is this in canada? what do you equate it to? >> this is huge ed. i honestly can't understate it. i worked in alberta for a number of years. i never saw this coming. i don't think anyone really expected the most conservative province in this country to suddenly vote in a left wing party. but this is huge. this will have a big, big effect. especially on things like keystone that you mentioned and the whole oil industry in this country. >> what do you think moved the people? was it keystone? was it climate change?
was it tar sans oil? what moved the folks this time? >> you know what from my perspective, that's kind of a by-product. there's a lot of domestic factors at play. the government in that power for four decades had sort of rubbed people the wrong way, maybe one too many times and i think this was in large part a protest vote. there were a lot of people who just department want them in power anymore. but it says they were willing in that protest vote to accept a party that, you know wants to change the whole, the way that the government acts on climate change. that wants to bring in a carbon tax. that says no to keystone or campaign or promoting keystone. it does say something that they were willing to accept that, but i do think the domestic factors here were perhaps more at play. >> with the domestic factors, vassy, we're having quite a discussion in america about income inequality. i noticed the liberal democrats now in power in alberta want to go after corporate taxes, they
want to raise those rates. did this income equality pull you in that province as well? >> it did. that's an interesting point. the new democrats talked about raising corporate tax rate from 10% to 12%. still one of the lowest rates in this country, and it ended up being very popular. i think people understood that. they do believe, especially in alberta alberta, oil companies should pay more or should pay a bigger part of the pie. and i think that resonated with voters for sure. >> jane cleb this is an equation i don't think you thought was going to play out. we've had many conversations about transcanada and keystone and eminent domain and permits but never really talked about the seed change could take place north of the border. what do you make of this? >> i was in alberta a couple months ago and i was hearing from farmers and ranchers as well as progressive young people that they were tired of the old government and they were tired that the old governor was essentially letting polluters pollute and not paying their
fair share. i do not see this huge seed change in election but i saw seeds. there is populism in canada and our country as well. in your intro, absolutely right. secretary clinton should take note. we don't want keystone xl and leaders that are actually going to put their values on the line and start talking in ways that we talk around kitchen tables or talk to each other on this tv program. and so it's a huge seat change. i think president obama clearly is going to take note. alber tans wanted to see a change in tar sans and so do americans. >> do you think president obama was in the back of his head and not say anything play out in canada, what do you think, jane? >> i do but i think time is up for the president to make a decision on keystone. he made keystone xl a climate issue last june when he gave the georgetown speech. it's long past due to reject keystone xl and move on to bigger issues on climate change and so we hope a decision is going to come sooner rather than
later. >> where does this leave transcanada, what's their next move? >> transcanada is essentially putting a lot of eggs in the energy east basket hoping they can convince the alberta premier to approve that project since she seems to be open to more domestic refining of tar sans. that is a possibility but you have to remember the first nations are very critical at stopping any tar sans expansion and we are winning. alberta won 6 to 8 million barrels of tar sans out to the export market. only 1 to 2 million barrels a day. there's a million barrels a day been cancelled. we are holding the line and i think we're going to continue now with this new leadership. >> vassy, can americans come to the conclusion if the canadians wanted keystone and tar sands to come out of the ground dirtiest on the planet this election would have never taken place. we hear the canadians really want it they want the pipeline,
they're going to get this oil they're going to get this to market one way or another. what about that? >> well i'm not sure you can draw the sort of specific conclusion out of this election that canadians don't want to get oil out of market and there's a lot of canadians that would argue with your description of our oil as the dirtiest on the planet. i think, you know, it depends where you are in the country but there is a sort of will to see our oil industry do well. it is a large part of our country's economy. but also i think what you can draw, a concern for the environment. a desire to do it responsibly and i think those are the two parallel conclusions i would draw. >> all right. and jane kleeb, would this fire up the folks in nebraska or nervous about letting their guard down? i know there's still a tremendous eminent domain legal battle going on. >> we are fighting every day just as fiercely as we fought from day one. we're actually in the middle of doing a 14 acre huge crop art that's going to send a strong
message to the president we'll unveil next week. so the fire in the belly is still there and keep on battling until we get a fight rejection. >> will it be difficult for the new democrats to implement their agenda? is this past go do what you got to do? >> i think they're at the beginning of a honeymoon phase. might not be so hard now. if you want to get reelected, your decisions are going to be viewed through a certain prism and if the economy is not going well now given oil prices if it continues to tank their decisions will be directly correlated to the economy and they could suffer because of that. it's not sort of a blank check, but they definitely got this will of the people behind them at this point. >> all right. two great resources with us tonight. vassy and jane thank you for your time. very interesting developments, no doubt about it. thank you for being on "the ed show." remember to answer tonight's question they're at pulse.msnbc.com/ed. we'll have the results right after this break. you can follow us on facebook. you can watch my facebook
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is tom brady a cheater? >> i don't believe so. i feel like i've always played within the rules. i would never do anything to break the rules. i believe in fair play. i respect the league and everything they're doing to try to create a very competitive playing field for all of the nfl teams. >> all right. welcome back to "the ed show." this is a big story today. everybody is talking about it. now, the question is is tom brady a cheater? well, in his mind he's not. he's a quarterback who wants a good feel and a good touch on the football. and of course, brady back in january denying any wrongdoing in the deflategate controversy. so wednesday, nfl released a report that brady could have known what was happening. brady's agent is now speaking out and ain't real happy about the whole deal. the report found it is more probable than not two patriot employees intentionally deflated
footballs in last acl title game against the colts. the report said quote, it is more probable than not that tom brady was at least generally aware of inappropriate activities. hold it right there. you're going to tell me nfl, that there was a deflated football and the quarterback didn't know about it? really? let's move on. the coach bill belichick, they didn't have any knowledge of the wrongdoing. owner robert kraft still think the patriots did nothing inappropriate. brady's agent, don yee, he said the report is quote, a significant and terrible disappointment. its omission of key facts and lines of inquirey suggest they reach the conclusion first and determine so-called facts later. how about this text messages in the report show brady may have been involved prior to a jets game in october, a patriots locker room attendant texted an
equipment saying tom sucks, i'm going to make that ball a f-ing balloon. the locker room attendant replied. talked to him last night. he actually brought up you and said you must have a lot of stress trying to get them done. after news of deflategate broke, tom brady texted the equipment assistant saying this. you good, johnny boy? >> still nervous. so far so good though. i'll be all right. brayly replyied back you didn't do anything wrong, bro. he wrote, back i know i'll be all good. for the league to say tom brady wasn't involved. give me a break. the league hasn't announced any punishment and they might not. all evidence is circumstantial against brady and the patriots. but today, mike floria of nbc's
pro football talk said a suspension for brady seems unavoidable. well, if that's the case, they're going to have to tighten up a lot of rules. now, you might not know this but the nfl watches players on the field and if there's any adjustment to their uniform, they get fined. that's right. they have to wear their uniform a certain way. they can't taper their uniform in any way. the nfl watches that. but apparently they're not watching how the footballs are. being a former quarterback myself and i don't talk about this much but i did play a little bit at state, passed division ii all american and a tryout with the raiders and jets spent some time in the canadian league. i was a quarterback, i had idiosyncrasies. i used to like to put stick em on my fingertips. that was still allowed and it did affect the way i threw the ball. not a lot, a little bit.
quarterback haves theirs have their idiosyncrasies. maybe the way he puts his hands under his tail. they may do certain things with their shoes. quarterbacks are kind of goofy sometimes. let me bring in a great one. saij a former nfl trb, terrence moore with us tonight. national sports columnist and also we've got ben with us a former nfl linebacker and host in minneapolis. gentlemen, great to have you with us tonight. sage, what were your idiosyncrasies and don't tell me you didn't have any. >> well i'm goofy like the other quarterbacks. i like my footballs a certain way and as the league progresses, my career progressed, i like the balls worked as much as possible. i got to the minnesota vikings, those equipment managers have a great way to work the football. put them in the steam room, they got worked in.
when you got them on game day, felt like you've been using them for a couple months. well worked in and the grip was perfect. other teams did that all legal, but there was never talk of deflating footballs. >> what do you think should happen sage to tom brady, if anything? >> well my assumption is he's going to get suspended, a real shame. one, the first game of the year he will be starting that game which is the highlight of opening weekend, the first game of the nfl season if they played on thursday night in front of a national tv audience against the steelers and tom brady not playing the football game the super bowl mvp, that would be a shame and also a guy who played the position i know how hard it is to play quarterback in the nfl. i played for 12 years, played nowhere near the level tom brady played it. one of the all-time greats one of my favorites and can play in terrible weather, snow sleet, rain, the wind up there in foxborough massachusetts,
watching him play and compete, the accuracy over the course of the years, i don't think he's cheated at all and to see this tarnish his images bothers me because he's one of my all-time favorite quarterbacks. >> he was looking at this maybe another day at the office. this is what i do with the footballs, this is what i like. in his mind, probably, no i'm not a cheater. just playing football like i like to play football. terrence, what's the front office saying right now? are they struggling with in?this? >> no offense to sage but this is not a shame he should be suspended and probably won't be suspended. let's not start with this. not only should he be suspended but for multiple games along with bill belichick. belichick and tom brady are attached at the hip. and i want to read you something here in september 2007 right after new england was nailed for spygate. quote, coach belichick not only serves as a head coach, but also
has substantial control over all aspects of new england's football operations end quote. that was roger goodell. roger goodell eight years ago can't say that bill belichick is a grand puba of new england and suggest with this report he's not guilty of anything when it comes to deflategate and the other part of that is this. here you've got roger goodell, this big and bad guy suspending all these players and also different teams and different executives. yet he said in regards to this deflategate, he's going to have one of his underlings decide the punishment. the fix is in. the nfl is afraid of the new england patriots. >> i think they're afraid to do something to a marquee player. who brings great ratings and exciting play. i think they're struggling behind closed doors with this but i also want to talk about the indianapolis colts. ben, let's just say you're a
linebacker for the indianapolis colts and you find out that tom brady and the patriots were doing something with the football and the afc championship game gave them a little advantage. obviously, it gave them an advantage or they wouldn't have done it. how do you feel as a colts player if nothing gets done here? >> not only just as a colts player, but i respectfully disagree with sage and terrence yes, it is a shame, but you've got to do the right thing. he lied in front of everybody on national tv. he didn't cooperate with the investigation. that in and of itself with the bylaws should warrant some discipline. so those two strikes, the fact that we don't have hard core evidence, he needs to be suspended. you have to do the right thing. is this going to tarnish his career? i don't think so, i really don't. two games is i think something that's appropriate. something that needs to be done. something that has to be done. people will tune in that thursday night no matter what. it's opening kickoff for the nfl. everybody is excited.
i don't think it's that big of a conflict as many people think because you're going to get the ratings no matter what. >> they are going to get the ratings. >> if i was a player i think i would just be happy if they did the right thing. >> how hard is it to get the balls, to get air in them? ben, can't the league figure this out, can't they have a designated ball boy for every game of course that would cost some money and the owners don't want to spend money. somebody's got to be in charge of the footballs. what about that? >> i think that's the easiest fix is when they get handed over to the game officials, they have to be under lock and key. they can't walk away for a few minutes and let a locker room attendant steal them for two minutes into the bathroom. so that is the one gap that the officials had that day and i don't think that's going to be the same mistake going forward. that's going to be an easy fix. >> talking about quarterbacks this is a perfect discussion here. we've got both of you guys disagreeing with the quarterback and i'm kind of with the quarterback on this. we just think different. that's just the way it is.
but you know what i couldn't throw a wilson td very well but could sure throw a spalding j5v. how much would this bother brady, sage if there is a game ball boy designated by the nfl the make sure that football is not going to be doctored before the game? what about that? >> i think that's how it's supposed to be right now. and what's interesting about the indianapolis colts in the afc championship game is that the gm of the colts sent an e-mail to the nfl about and complained about the side of the footballs going into the game and those balls still lost for a couple minutes before the game. obviously taken out of them before the game and weren't under lock and key. to me that's all back on roger goodell. he's been under a lot of scrutiny over the last few years. especially this last year and
he's made a lot of mistakes and just like belichick is in charge of everything to do with the new england patriots roger goodell is fully in charge of everything in the nfl. looks to me like this is another situation where he's botched it again. no one really knows what the suspension is going to be because no one really knows who the judge is. roger goodell goes off what he feels the fan wants. ray rice suspension wasn't enough, we'll do more. adrian peterson wasn't enough do more. >> that's the thing that gets me terrence. the nfl and roger goodell have had some pretty serious issues to deal with this year and now they're really not sure whether they're going to suspend tom brady because there wasn't enough air in the football? can this guy make any decisions? >> well, first of all, he's not going to make the decision. he's going to troy vincent to make the decision, makes it so disgusting. i'll take it further than this. the worst part of this isn't so much what the patriots did.
as it was. but the worst is how the nfl covered up from the beginning. let's get this picture here. everything that was released yesterday, they could have told us during the two-week period at the afc championship game in the super bowl not coincidentally, what team is in the super bowl? the patriots. they didn't wait until after the super bowl through the combine a big moneymaker for them. through the nfl draft. and then finally when they release it, hear about this stuff, probably, maybe, could be. the remarks in the boston harbor, this sort of thing. it's obvious they were trying to cover this thing up and still trying to cover this thing up. i tell you something, ed. this deserves everything the patriots have done. all four super bowls, deserve an asterisk. >> what about the text messages? doesn't that incriminate the quarterback here? >> absolutely. i mean, you go back to the text messages in october and it's clear as day to me that tom had
the assistant equipment manager take out of the football to his liking and he's so adamant, those guys despise him to the point they make fun of him for doing so. this is not a one-time thing. something he's been doing for a long time. but all of that being said i just don't share the same vitriol that everybody else does. this is not that big of a deal. most of the balls deflated by average of a pound and a half. i'm not a quarterback but i don't think that had any major bearing on performance. maybe a slight psychological advantage for him. but i don't think it helped them win any sort of games. you go back to the colts game they played with standard footballs in the second half and they blew them out of the water. that just tells me it doesn't really matter. >> great to have you with us tonight. terrence moore and ben lee, aulds a pleasure. always a pleasure. climate series heads up the
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welcome back to "the ed show." tonight in our series "riding tize tide: the climate crisis" national security is an issue. the largest naval installation battling climate change. my hometown of norfolk, virginia, at the rising sea levels taking place. they were putting military readiness in question. climate putting servicemen and women in risk for their anti-science views. >> the pentagon says that climate change roses an increasing set of risks to our
national security. >> it threatens home businesses, and even military. >> the base could be unusable. >> norfolk, virginia, home of the largest naval station. their infrastructure is crucial to military readiness. >> home to about 75 ships, 200 aircraft, a large training and maintenance and logistics infrastructure to support those forces. sea level rise impacts the ability to have the base to carry out its mission. >> the folks can't get to the base. >> the other reason is the water is rising. the ocean is warming up. and expanding. >> the gulf stream pushes water up against virginia more so than anywhere else on the east coast. so we're getting the triple whammy. >> before, we would see flooding during an actual tropical storm or a hurricane, but now, we just see flooding in certain areas during our lunar high tides. so we see the water coming up. we see it on the tide gauge, but
we also see it in the streets. so that's really a significant indicator of flooding becoming more frequent and more of a problem. >> as sea level rose since the spill in world war i the utilities at high tide more often than not emerged in sea water. and that can cause outages. additionally, it's getting more difficult to make repairs. >> the national security risk from climate change caught the attention of military and intelligence agencies. >> as the oceans increase it will affect our bases. it will affect islands. it will affect security across the world. so just from my narrow perspective, what i have a responsibility for, that's happening now. and we have to be prepared. >> climate change, you know, global warming, whatever anybody's preference to call it
is, is increasingly a national security threat. >> this isn't about the battle of, you know climate change and the issues related to that. this is about what we are seeing happening. and the intelligence that flows from that. and that is important for us to consider. as we look at issues that could threaten our national security. >> local leaders have come out in front of this issue. >> senator tim cain and congressman scott rigil and rob whitman held a panel discussion with environmental, military and preparedness leaders. they all talked about the problem today and they all seem to be in agreement something needs to be done. >> they're seeing 250 to 300 hours a year of flooding. >> many remain in denial. >> the first step in getting there is awareness and understanding among navy leaders, d.o.d. leadership and the congress. congress because they have to appropriate the funds to keep
the bases operational. >> you've got to understand. we have people with our lives tied up and tried to make this hoax a reality. >> i personally am very disappointed when i hear members of congress criticizing individuals, particularly individuals who are advocating adaptation to the climate change. >> today, the global warming alarmists are the equivalent of the flat earthers. >> it is in many respects, an insult to professionals who are striving to carry out their responsibility to protect national security. >> first of all, global warming is not taking place. it's kind of laughable right now with all the records being sent. >> the entire community depends on action. >> our storm water system can't handle the increased amount of rainfall because the water is rising and pushing up on our old
infrastructure which can't handle it. >> buildings have to be built three feet higher than they were a year ago. >> we have had a lot of water damage, when the house was right on the ground literally and in the garage, we had to have all the hardwood floors replaced down to the joyce. literally, ripped out and replaced and since the house was elevated, we still have flooding. it's scary to see the water rushing? >> businesses are closing and they're losing days that they are staying open to make money. commuters are unable to get to their jobs. i know that that's a huge problem. and school buses have a really hard time getting to kids. there are pictures that show big school buses driving through
flooded streets to try to get kids to and from their houses to school. we had one school was pretty badly flooded, or the street in front of it was and take kids out of their classrooms. >> you can't raise the homes. you've got to raise the docks, the railroad entrance, they've all got to be part of the package. >> 35% of the local economy. if the bases have to move because of sea level rise the economy would be devastated. that's just not an option. >> combatting the rising sea level comes down to one thing. money. >> every city at least a billion dollars for each city just to build structures to stop some of this. if there is not a sustained funding string for adaptation bases are going to phase
increasingly difficulty carrying out their mission. >> climate change is a serious threat. >> congress must take science seriously and act. >> congress has seen the need to address sea level rise and recently authorized a very large study for the whole north atlantic region. >> the federal government is going to have to coordinate much better than they usually do. >> the challenge and i would actually call it an opportunity is bringing all the resources together and get out the maximum use of them to make sure we establish a community effort. >> to try new things new approaches. >> we're having old infrastructure and new infrastructure at the federal level that changes from anywhere to hard and expensive seawalls like what you're seeing in places like new orleans. it's more greener solutions like planning wetlands out there and the storm surge before they hit land. a whole gamut from hard
structures to more greener structures. >> if we could speak with one voice and that that one team one fight, you know a strategy i think, we'll be pretty successful. >> and "the ed show" series "rising tide: the climate crisis" on hoboken, new jersey. sandy puts a small city under underwater and now working with the president to prevent future flooding. still to come the president makes a big push to win over democrats on the transpacific partnership. we'll have the details ahead. stay with us. we're right back.
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it's not the move that's going to convince the undecided republicans in congress that obama is still trying to wrangle. on thursday bernie sanders sent a letter to president obama strongly encouraging him to cancel the meeting at nike. the senator from vermont, who's a candidate wrote, nike epitomizes why disastrous unfettered free trade policies during the past four decades have failed american workers. it's no secret why nike is supporting the tpp. so in the 11th hour the only secret continues to be the actual details of the deal. and apparently the white house is putting a lot of pressure on environmental groups flat-out telling them we've been with you on climate change you've got to give us this one. we'll have that story, of course, tomorrow night. right now, let's bring in leo gerard president of the united steelworkers international. mr. gerard good to have you with us. this is a fevered pitch effort by the white house and the president.
what do you think of it, going to nike? >> look i think it's a terrible mistake as you do and i do. we support the president on almost everything else. this is a terrible mistake. nike represents everything that's wrong with global trade. in fact, nike has publicly said that they're forthis this deal because they'll be able to export from vietnam with duty-free. 1% 1% of nike's employees are in america. and we now know that nike at one point in time had moved from china and other countries to vietnam, because vietnam had lower wages. i think this is an act of desperation. i think whoever advised the president to go there, we ought to thank that person because i think it's a terrible place and it epitomizes everything that is wrong with the trade deal. >> the only thing that would make this good is if nike has got some announcement they're going to make tomorrow that they're going to start building factories and hiring people in america. i mean 1% is the correct number. maybe the president is looking for a bunch of fans behind him that are going to be cheering because they work at nike. i just find it puzzling.
>> look, even if they increase it from 1% to 1.5% or 2% double their employment that still means 98% of their employment is outside of the country. that still doesn't repair the peace that nike has said they want to be able to export from vietnam to the world. they want to be able to export from vietnam to those other 11 countries, that are part of tpp. and look ed i've been saying for a long time this is really for me and for the people i'm privileged to represent, quite simple let history be your guide. look at every trade deal that has been passed since the passage of nafta, and look at its face what it's done is had record trade deficits, loss of jobs, and downward pressure on wages. if this trade deal is so good put it out in the open don't push fastrack and try to prevent us from seeing it. put it out in the open and see if that creates balanced trade, growth in experts, the reduction of imports, and upward pressure
on wages. nike represents low wage jobs. we don't need anymore low-wage jobs. what we need is a manufacturing industry that is going to be able to thrive and have family supporting jobs. >> all right. the president and his staff putting a lot of pressure on democrats, especially the congressional black caucus. are the democrats going to hold the line? right now they don't have the votes for fastrack. >> my sense, talking to the people that i know working up on the hill that the democrats are going to hold the line. there are a few that are going to be wayward democrats, we best not forget about that. and then you're going to look at the republicans. we've got a lot of republicans who are from the tea party, who aren't prepared to give the president this unfettered authority. let me make this point. republicans want to read every line of the nuclear deal with iran, but are they prepared to want to ignore every line that's in the trade deal? that's a level of hypocrisy that you need to call editor. and the same thing with democrats. you want to see the iran trade deal every line let's look at the trade deal with every line.
>> very profound point. mr. gerard always a pleasure. good to have you with us tonight. we'll have more on the tpp tomorrow night and the president's visit to beaverton, oregon, the nike town. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. politics nation with reverend al sharpton joins right now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed. and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead should tom brady with punished? in an hour and a half nfl superstar tom brady will speak publicly for the first time since nfl investigators called him out. we did not see him, but his helicopter just arrived at salem state university in massachusetts. a stop planned before the new deflategate report was released. he did not say anything to awaiting reporters. we do not know what he might say, but his agent is