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out? >> help me. >> i felt like the brakes were hit hard. our car, we were like third from the last slowly started going over to the right. >> come on man. >> i got you, okay? okay? keep crawling okay? >> crawl forward, sir. >> keep crawling. >> we saw it go like that. you could feel it off the track, then we just rolled and rolled. next thing i knew we were pushing out the emergency exit. i was outside and there were people screaming and bleeding. >> good morning, everyone frightening details and images coming after that amtrak tragedy. i'm tamron hall and this is "news nation." we begin with the news conference held by philadelphia's mayor and amtrak officials just a short time ago giving us an update on what investigators know at this point about the derailment. mayor michael nutter confirmed six people are dead and dozens are still being treated at nearby hospitals. investigators have found the train's black box, a data
recorder that's expected to shed more light on why that train derailed. ntsb investigators are still combing through the wreckage for clues and the company is cooperating fully with its investigation. >> amtrak will do everything in its power to assist in the investigation and brought every resource to support that effort. this is the amtrak family. we are very saddened by what's occurred and will do everything in our power to work with the mayor's office ntsb and all authorities to do everything possible in dealing with this tragedy. >> the train was heading to new york from washington, d.c. when it derailed. it just left its scheduled 9:07 p.m. stop at philadelphia's 30th street station. when about 9:28 p.m. the train derailed with such force it ripped the steel rails right from the tracks, tearing down overhead electric wires. all seven cars derailed many rolled over. if you see the video there, absolutely mangled, in pieces
there, rescuers are using cranes to upright the cars that rolled fearing some people may be still pinned underneath. >> it is an absolute disastrous mess. never seen anything like this in my life and most personnel will say that as well. >> the derailment happened on part of a route called the northeast corridor which is the busiest passenger line in the united states. it's expected to be shut down now for days. at least 2,200 trains operate per day on the washington to boston route. trains reach speeds of 125 miles per hour and we have team coverage on the investigation. on the ground at the site and monitoring those victims at local hospitals. let's begin with rehema ellis who's been at the crash site all morning long. let's start with the crane that's been brought in to upright those cars. what's the latest there? >> reporter: what we know is there are three cranes that have been brought in and could be more on the way. we're told those cranes each one can lift something like
220,000 pounds of weight in order to try and get these trains back out of this mangled condition and away from this area so that they can check more on what's going on. the mayor says this is still a search and recovery effort. to your point, tamron they have not accounted for everyone. they are asking people who have loved ones who might have been on this train, they are giving them a phone number to contact and also saying to people who were on the train would they contact authorities. it's going to make it important, critical for them to try and get an accurate assessment of who was and wasn't on this train. as you know you make a schedule you reserve a train sometimes but you don't get on it. the mayor said they are not going to give numbers or names right now about that. some of the things we do know but the mayor said and was emphatic about this he said some things we know many things we don't know and we will not speculate at this time but you point out something very important that they do know
they have the black box recorder which is similar to the flight data recorder that is found on airplanes. they have that it's in camden in delaware i should say, and they hope to retrieve some information from that box. and that is the tracks that's the signal that's the speed, and that is even a conversation with the engineer to find out what he knew as well as do something that's very routine and that's to do a toxicology report on him. tamron? >> ray heeehemarehema, tell us how far the train was from the 30th street station where it would have picked up and let off passengers in philadelphia. >> reporter: it had left the 30th street station not very long before the crash happened and one of the things that's interesting about this while they know what happened, tamron they don't know why, and it
happened in an instant. what they want to try and figure out is was there anything that might have led up to this that they might be able to use as they try to piece together what happened here and also try to prevent this from happening again. we talked to people who were on this train, including one of our own nbc news producers, janelle richards who told me that it was a very normal train ride until suddenly it wasn't and she found herself being thrown out of her seat and trying to find a way out of that train. i talked to former congressman patrick murphy who said pretty much the same thing, he had taken that train because he wanted to get home to see his two young children so he could wish them a good night and luckily he was able to do that. >> he will join us a little bit later, as well as one of the images that he took from the cafe car, the area where many people stop to eat and kind of hang out on the train, his picture was on the front page of the new york times.
let me go now to stephanie gosk at frankford hospital about a mile and a half from the crash site. she's been there since 4:00 a.m. what's the latest on those taken to temple university hospital as well, and at least one other place? >> reporter: well, tamron good news here at this hospital they've had 26 injured passengers over the course of the evening and they have now treated and releeted all of them. that is not the case in other hospitals, as many as five other hospitals in the city that received passengers overnight, and one of those hospitals said they released about half of their patients but eight are still in critical condition. they also said one of their patients arrived in critical condition and then died. they tried to resuscitate him, but he died overnight. the doctor says the injuries they are seeing is what you might expect broken bones, lacerations, as well as more serious head trauma. and for people who live in this part of the country, almost
everyone has taken one of these trains at some point in their life and one of the things you notice is there aren't any seat belts. and you know that when you get up to go to the bathroom you can get knocked around pretty easily. every single one of these cars was knocked off the track, so it's no wonder that there were as many injuries as there were. close to 140 is the number they are putting on it. tamron? >> stephanie, thank you. and as mentioned, this was the image on the cover of today's "new york times" taken by congressman patrick murphy he was on that train and joins us now. thank you so much for joining us again. i was listening to you last night on msnbc and looking at this image, patrick, i can't imagine what that was like for you and those people onboard. paint me the picture of what was happening and when you first knew there was trouble. >> tamron you know it was like a regular ride. i was going back as you mentioned, getting home in time to kiss my kids good night before they fell asleep.
it was a regular train, senator tom carper was in the cafe cart table next to me working, he got off at wilmington, we hit philly i was getting off the next stop in trenton, everything was fine until we heard some pretty violent vibrations. i don't know if it was brakes or what not, but when that happened, you saw the car that was going northbound the train, our car banked to the left and then as if it was leaning over then immediately to the right. then it just went all the way over, so for those of us like myself who were on the other side of the train and the bench seating, there was no handrails or anything, i tried to grab on to the table, but we were thrown pretty violently across the train car. frankly, head first into the window. >> in the picture, patrick, there's a man in a gray t-shirt and he's slumped over he looks like he's unconscious.
what can you tell me about that man and was he able to get off that train with you and the others in that car? >> yeah i was able to pull myself up and i hit the emergency window out, then i helped some people get out. that gentleman, you're right, was not in any shape to move whatsoever, we had about 11 people who couldn't move and were severely injured. i stayed with them. tamron you come from a military family as well we have the ethic leave no one behind. i was doing my effort until the first responders came and within minutes, philadelphia firefighter captain was basically climbed up and was going through, he said hey, congressman, what's going on how many bodies do we have? i said we have 11 bodies these two are really serious. the one guy in the front of our cab who konlt feel his arms or legs, i fear he's paralyzed. we'll see.
>> looking last night at the breaking news coverage many others announced how there was no light. at one point you see just a few flashlights, glimmers of light in all of that. how do you describe getting off or having even the presence of mind to open that window to get yourself out of there and to help other people in the dark and smoke all around you? >> yeah well tamron it was pretty bad. you know, i thought i was a goner, frankly, it was so violent. but once i realized i was okay i checked my arms and legs they were still there and i just forced myself up. i knew i was going to get home to my wife and kids and i also knew that you know i wasn't going to get out of that train until i was going to help the people in there with me. some people got out right away human nature stepping over people and doing things like that, but there was a lot of folks -- even that amtrak woman
that works the cafe cart ms. bryant, she was thrown around like a pinball, she was standing up when that train went tamron. even though she was very shocked and unstable she was there getting ice, napkins, giving them to people to put on their heads. a lot of people mostly everyone was bleeding from somewhere. >> patrick, thank you so much for joining us. i know you have been on the air all day describing what you saw and i know your family you were able to reach out to your wife and kids so we're appreciative you stuck around to talk with us. thank you. john golia is a former ntsb board member who spent most of his time investigating rail crashes and larry mann the principal author of the safety act of 1970 and larry joins us on the phone. gentlemen, thank you both for joining me. john, let me start with you here. you know it struck me just talking with rehema ellis, our
reporter on the scene, amtrak and how -- i don't know if the word is antiquated i'm not sure how it's appropriately described, but down to knowing who was on the train, it seems behind the times. for people who don't know when you get on an amtrak train, you can put it on your phone and print your ticket not until the conductor comes by and processes your digital ticket for example, or you actually even registered as a passenger, so they don't know who actually got on the train. that technology is not available to have an accurate manifest. >> that's correct, and it's been a problem for amtrak keeping track of their passengers for a long time. and truthfully there's no easy answer to that. we all like the convenience of running to catch a train, catching an earlier train, so it's a balance between what the traveling public wants and what the needs are after there's an
event like this event. so there's no easy answer to it. >> when you look at the crash site itself and you see that all of those cars derailed one of them is just in a ball at this point, where do you start the investigation, is it speed? obviously, they are questioning the conductor at this point, getting information from there, but where do you start? >> well they are going to just start factually, some mentioned they were already on the scene doing a preliminary walk around during the accident site so in their own mind gathering pieces of evidence and questions that they are going to explore further. the event recorders are now in delaware. they are going to be right out here soon. it's going to give us the speed of the train, also tell us what kind of manipulation of the controls the conductor had done, they are going to look at the signals which are recorded. was he traveling at the proper
speed relationship to the signal system that's telling him what to do. so there's a lot of work that's already in progress. >> we heard -- >> remember when you get an event recorder which is what they call the recorders on the vehicle, and it says the operator applied the brakes well, then we're going to go look at the train itself and see if there's evidence he applied the brakes. so it's a set of checks and balances and everything that the ntsb does. >> john we heard amtrak officials and the mayor say there are things they know at this point things they do not know. from your expertise and background investigating accidents like this what do you believe they know perhaps they are not ready to share? >> well i would say that they probably already know what the event recorder has told them so they probably already know the speed, and they may have some indication of some track issues if they occurred earlier in the day, but it really is a little
premature. by later this afternoon, they will have a considerable amount of knowledge they can start to focus the investigation. >> let me bring in larry mann as i mentioned, the authority on railroad safety the principal author of the safety act in 1970. we've been on together many times, you have been very vocal about technology and advancements that are needed in our infrastructure. we've had just as of late may 6th the accident in north dakota, march 28th los angeles, 21 people hurt february 24th oxnard california one person dead 28 hurt. in february 5th new york six people dead 12 people injured. you have been advocating for changes here. what does this accident tell you here? >> well just as to the causation, thing that triggered in my mind was the fact that the congressman said that there were vibrations and shaking just prior to the derailment.
so that leads me to believe that one of the big focuses would be on a track failure or a wheel failure. obviously, speed is an issue here because we're on a curve, and there must be slow orders at that speed, i mean at that location. that is all speculative, of course. the one thing that also causes me concern is employees on all railroads are overworked. fatigue is one of the major issues in rail safety and for many years the railroad workers have been attempting to have congress do something about it.
in 2008 they did make some changes to the hours of service laws but there's many more issues that have to be addressed. so hopefully congress will do that during this term. i don't know. but the problem with amtrak is always been a political football. not only urban versus rural, it's just the fact that "x" dollars is going to be paid to amtrak and that's it. what would cure the whole issue, in my view if you would take a half of a cent of the -- every time we fill our car, take half a cent and that would cure amtrak's problems for a significant amount of time and we wouldn't have this problem with congress. >> to your point, there's an
op-ed in the new york times today, he says spending on infrastructure in the united states has sunk to 1.7% of gross domestic product. a 20-year low. europe spends 5% of gdp on infrastructure china 9% global cities like london and beijing are investing in transit and rail projects on vast scale, while new york city more than 160 bridges were built over a century ago and large portions of our subway signal system are more than 50 years old. there's a laundry list of questions from to your point, how many hours employees work to the quality of the train cars themselves, whether they can take an impact as we saw yesterday, particularly larry, that one car that's mangled. you have many people asking how is that possible believing that these cars could sustain a more direct hit.
>> well maybe ten years ago as a result of a collision in i think it was arizona, there was an impact -- side impact of one of amtrak's cars and it crumbled. the construction of these cars leaves a lot to be desired. that needs to be addressed. it has been addressed somewhat but it does not mean that the existing fleet, which is probably around 30 to 40 years old, needs to be retrofitted. and the regulations relate really to new construction. so it's another area where congress needs to step in. >> and you've talked to me before larry, regarding technology that could potentially prevent train cars from derailing, as well as even
monitor the speeds of the train, preventing any mistakes that might be made as a result of human error. >> well the technology new technology coming on to the scene on this positive train control, congress has mandated a certain number of trains particularly those all passenger trains and those carrying hazardous materials be equipped with positive train control. this would prevent collisions between trains it's excellent technology. the problem with the regulation is that it's covering only about 27 or 28% of the trackage. the entire system should be equipped with this kind of technology. i realize it is expensive, but
if we're talking about improving safety this is one of the best effects of new technology. >> larry and john thank you so much. i do want to point our audience now to a statement coming in from the president president obama, writing "along with americans across our country, michelle and i were shocked and deeply saddened to hear of the derailment aboard amtrak train 188. our thoughts and prayers go to the family and friends we lost last night and to the many passengers who today began their long road to recovery. along the northeast corridor amtrak is a way of life for many from washington, d.c. to philadelphia, new york city and boston. this is a tragedy that touches us all. as we work to determine impactexactly what happened i commend the personnel working tirelessly and professionally to save lives. the spirit of loving kindness was reaffirmed last night as hundreds of first responders and passengers lent a hand to their
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right now, what you see are the power lines that were taken down by the amtrak train that derailed. you might also see in your television screen that huge crane, one of the cranes being used to upright the cars of the amtrak train. all of those cars derailed some of them on their side. we just got a tweet in from the city of philadelphia's twitter account, michael nutter, the mayor, has ordered the city flags at half-mast and the governor of pennsylvania is doing the same for the commonwealth flags there. so we will get back to that breaking news but i do want to get you updated on another developing story and that is the search for a u.s. marine helicopter that vanished yesterday in nepal with eight people onboard. an intense search has failed to find any sign of the helicopter that disappeared while delivering relief supplies to
earthquake victims. it's now about 9:30 p.m. in nepal and the search is suspended for the night. so is the search for victims after the second major earthquake in three weeks causing new building collapses and landslides. we get more now on the search for those marines from nbc's katy tur who's in nepal. >> reporter: the search has resumed this morning for the missing huey helicopter like this one carrying six marines and two nepalese soldiers. the chopper suddenly lost radio contact yesterday while dropping supplies and evacuating earthquake victims in a remote village. there had reportedly been brief radio chatter from the helicopter about a fuel problem, but then total silence. the rugged terrain makes rescue efforts difficult, putting search crews at risk. the missing marines are part of 300 u.s. military personnel who began arriving just after the first earthquake on april 25th. this latest quake forces thousands once again to spend the night out in the open as dozens of aftershocks continue
to rattle the region. >> everybody's scared right now nobody stays in the house. everybody was in the road. >> reporter: across the country, already weakened buildings crumbled sending clouds of dust into the air and bringing more misery. this morning international search teams are out once again searching debris and hoping to find survivors. >> thank you katy for that report. up next breaking news out of boston. closing arguments are about to get under way in the sentencing phase of the boston bombing trial in the life or death decision could go to the jury today. a live report is next and we'll get you updated on the latest out of philadelphia. first, more breaking news coverage of the deadly amtrak derailment in philadelphia the accident sparked 46,000 mentions on social media, including passengers and witnesses who were able to share what was happening. one of them posting this picture showing the overturned train cars. you can see the wheels in the
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welcome back. we are also following breaking news from boston this morning, where closing arguments have just gotten under way in the sentencing phase of the boston bombing trial. the jury could begin deliberation on early as today whether convicted bomber dzhokhar tsarnaev should get the death penalty or spend the rest of his life in jail. tsarnaev's defense team asked the jurors not to consider the impact that 8-year-old martin richards death had on his family when determining the sentence. joining me now, boston globe assistant metro editor mike bello. let's first talk about, obviously, that's a stunning thing for many people to hear as this is about the impact the
crime and ultimately the conviction of dzhokhar tsarnaev had had on these survivors. >> you know it's really interesting. it's a very somber-faced jury today that heard from judge o'tool and these instructions lasted more than an hour and talked about the aggravating factors, the aggravating factors being there were 17 of them looking at the maliciousness of the attack the terror bombing, the damage and carnage to innocent young victims. there's also these mitigating factors that was talked about in terms of the defense saying that dzhokhar was remorseful that he was a young lad, that he was under the sway of his brother, that he was influenced by this jihadist culture in russia that his mother was very intellectual and also swayed him towards a jihad culture. >> you mentioned some of those witnesses were family members, his mother and also the last
witness by the defense team was sister helen prejean, the catholic nurse who's an opponent of the death penalty. you've reported on this and we discussed how not all of the survivors, not all of the people who lost loved ones in that tragedy want the death penalty in this case. >> that's right. the richard family came out with an editorial, an essay in our newspaper saying they wanted dzhokhar to have life in prison. others have said they want him to have the death penalty. there's a real division among survivors, many who testified in the death penalty phase appear to be for the death penalty. it's going to be a very interesting deliberation. this jury has heard from 154 witnesses over the course of ten weeks, 100 in the first phase of the trial, more than 50 in the second phase. they have a lot of evidence to consider. it's going to take a while for them tody dyigest this.
>> thank you again for joining us, from the boston globe, we greatly appreciate your reporting. and up next we'll get a report from our team including one of our reporters who's in a helicopter flying over the amtrak crash scene. but first, here's one of the first reporters on the scene describing what he saw last night. >> you see this one right here appears to be the most heavily damaged, just completely off the tracks here. i mean right now you can see some of the other train cars in this area and you just see how this one just completely went off the rails. >> we'll have the latest on the investigation, plus i'll talk live with a railroad engineer with decades of experience. we'll break down the role of the conductor versus the role of the engineer as part of this investigation.
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cranes have now been brought in as authorities try to determine if anymore people are under that wreckage. we know at least six people were killed and more than 200 people were treated at local hospitals. officials say 243 people were onboard the train headed from washington to new york. ntsb investigators on the scene now and the train's data recorders or black boxes as we know them have been recovered. joining us now from a helicopter over the scene, nbc's tom costello. from your vantage point, what can you tell us regarding -- >> reporter: yeah, good day, we are 2,000 feet above this train wreck, and it is awful to see it from this altitude. you get a real sense of how terrible and how fast this event occurred with the trains literally twisted and broken and lying on their sides. we've got major cranes big cranes coming in today. they are going to lift up the trains and they are going to be trying to look for anymore victims. they want to do a full accounting of everybody who's on that train. the question is did anybody not
get out, is anybody underneath those train cars they've had dogs coming in today, cadaver dogs already looking and trying to pick up hints of any individual who might be in that wreckage. fire rescue as you know went meticulously through the wreckage last night, so the real concern is is anybody underneath, they are going to right the trains look for victims, and candidly begin their investigation. this is going to take some time as you would expect because they've got to go through all the telemetry onboard, the black boxes on the train, they've got to do a full analysis looking at speed, looking at how the train went through that curve, they want to look at the condition of the tracks they want to look at the wheels onboard the train, and they need to look at the blood toxicology report for the engineer and the conductors is there any sign there was alcohol or drugs involved. now, that is a normal part of this investigative process. that's not suggesting this crew
in any way did anything wrong. they've got to begin eliminating everything and that's a very very long process. in the meantime this busy northeast corridor that stretches from washington, d.c., up to philly up to new york and up to boston it is really slow today because they've shut down all of the northeast rail traffic between philadelphia and new york. so that's going to be a very big inconvenience for many tens of thousands of travelers who rely on the northeast corridor every day. the mayor is saying he expects this particular stretch of the northeast corridor will probably be out of commission for the better part of the week. so the investigation now is going to be looking at exactly how did this happen how did these seven rail cars come off the tracks just north of philadelphia and is there any hint at all that there was a mechanical issue that there was a human factor involved it's going to be a very long investigation. tom costello over philadelphia, back to you. >> thanks tom. i want to bring in dusty, a
railroad engineering expert. spent more than 20 years in the railroad engineering business and has conducted track inspections and maintenance. he's also previously served as engineering director for the greater cleveland regional authority. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you for having me back. >> absolutely. let me first get your reaction to the fact all seven of those cars derailed there. does that shed any light on speed or perhaps a part of the investigation that jumps out to you? >> not really. i was thinking about that earlier today, as i heard the report, and think of it as when you're ice skating and you make a chain of people and you snap the whip as one car goes off the track, it's going to drag the ones behind it or the ones in front of it off the track, as well, and again, depending upon what caused the derailment. if there was a problem with the track, then all the cars would
possibly be effected at the same time. so at this point, i'm not -- i can't say that the fact that all seven went means one thing or another. >> we know that the train had approached that curve there. there are reports that the train is supposed to go from 75 miles per hour to around 55. with that said is there an alert that would let the team onboard know that it is time to reduce the speed? how would they know that it was time other than visual? >> well that is -- they should know because that's cab signal territory. that's old main line and that's been cab signalled for decades and what happens with cab signaling, think of it as a heads-up display in the locomotive that will give the engineer an alert that he has to reduce speed to some set number.
if he doesn't do it the system will do it for him. and so you can enforce speed restrictions, such as a curve, with that cab signaling system. we started putting that kind of stuff in here at rta 30 years ago. so it exists and i'd be -- i'm very surprised that it didn't exist there, which is why in this case, speed begins to say, gee, it doesn't make any sense. >> what we do know right now, the conductor was injured, we don't have an update on the engineer. however, going back to the relationship between the conductor and the engineer would it be the conductor's job to alert or remind the engineer that this curve is approaching, that the speed restrictions how does that relationship between those two individuals work in keeping the passengers and, obviously, the crew safe? >> well the operation of the train, the physical operation of
the train, rests with the engineer. the conductor is inside the train attending to the passengers. he has the title of being the one in charge of the entire train crew. train doesn't move until the conductor says so but as far as adhering to speed restrictions, wayside signals, the conductor's inside the train and he can't see where he is at at any one particular time. >> i ask that question amtrak their official responsibilities for the conductor and the engineer, it cites radio speed restrictions, so i was trying to understand the checks and balances in place to alert the engineer or remind the engineer in this world of distraction if this turns out to be obviously, an issue of speed or distracted engineer, we do not know that at this time, obviously. >> that is correct. i believe one of your earlier
experts talked about a slow order. the speed limit on this curve could be a permanent speed restriction because of the sharpness of the curve, it could be because of a problem with the track, and we call that a slow order. and so the conductor might say, and remember we have a temporary slow order at frankford junction. remember that as they would pull out of the station. >> all right. there are many questions and again, right now, according to amtrak officials and the mayor of philadelphia, they know some things they are not revealing and there are many other questions they have not gotten an answer for as of yet. we'll continue to follow the breaking news and remind people at this point we still don't know if all of those passengers have been accounted for as these cranes are now being used to upright the cars that remain on their side. thank you so much for joining us, we greatly appreciate your insight. and up next senate democrats brought president obama's top agenda item to a halt with only one democrat
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musculoskeletal so arms and legs and ribs. >> right now on "andrea mitchell reports," the deadly train derailment in philadelphia kills six and injuries dozens more. the terrifying scene experienced by hundreds, including a former congressman. >> i feel blessed and lucky to be honest to be here. i was able to kiss my wife last night. >> today the focus is on the investigation of the train's black boxes which have been recovered. >> we have a forward-facing video camera that's in the head end of the locomotive the front end of the train, so we will be looking at that. we will be -- the event recorders themselves can give you information about the speed of the train, any brake applications, any throttle applications that the engineer could have made horn bell it can give us a lot. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell in new york following breaking news from the