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st jetted in from the south of france and we're going to be having a know your value conference in washington, d.c. have a great weekend. if it's way too early, it's "morning joe." stick around, "the rundown" starts now. good morning i'm jose diaz-balart. breaking news this morning on "the rundown." a development the department dreaded -- the wreckage of a u.s. marine chopper missing in nepal has been found. we're expecting a press conference from the american embassy this kathmandu every moment where the american flag flies at half-staff this morning. the wreckage of that marine huey helicopter missing since tuesday found in an altitude of over 1,100 feet in the himalayas eight miles north of the town of charikot, nepal. here you see u.s. military helicopters returning to kathmandu this morning as the air is search for the chopper carrying six marines and two nepali troops comes to an end. so far no signs of survivors as a ground search continues.
nbc's jim miklaszewski is standing by at the pentagon. what do we know? >> according to a senior u.s. official there's no indication by the crash team. paramilitary search and rescue teams are on the ground there, u.s. military, and this official said there's no indication that anybody could have survived this crash. so that's an indication that not all of the members of the u.s. marine corps crew that were aboard six marines and two nepalese soldiers apparently it sounds as if not all have been found. now, this helicopter crashed right into the side of a mountain. it as a on a very steep cliff, according to officials we're talking two. three charred bodies we removed from the helicopter. that would leave as many as five that could be still unaccounted for. and you can understand with that kind of terrain why it would be difficult to find all those victims at once. the investigation into the
crash, of course, continues. oh, and by the way, the conditions there 30 mile per hour winds and more. it's raining, there's lightning, it's a very difficult recovery operation that is taking place now. now, to be clear about this the u.s. military is not now confirming any u.s. military dead and won't until they account for every single individual on that helicopter. and you mentioned a moment ago, jose that this helicopter was only eight miles from where it took off when it suddenly disappeared earlier this week. just eight miles. there have been hundreds of hours of air searches in that area under way and it took nepalese ground forces to find it on the side of the mountain, jose. >> jim mig laklaszewski thank you very much. we'll keep our eye out for that
news conference in nepal. developing now, federal safety investigators could talk to the aengengineer of the amtrak train. an eighth person was killed in the crash. 200 injured they're focusing on the train's sudden acceleration a minute before the derailment tuesday night. police want to check brandon bostian's cell phone to make sure he wasn't texting. we're also hearing from friends of bostian. >> i was shocked considering what kind of person he is and what kind of love -- he wasn't just doing this as a job like, yeah i've got to pay the bills so i'll take this job. it seemed like this is what i love to do. >> as the investigation continues, the first funeral is being held today. 20-year-old navy midshipman justin zemser will be remembered in queens, new york. more now on the investigation from nbc's tom costello in philadelphia. >> reporter: this morning, the ntsb says it's eager to talk to
engineer brandon bostian who now says he'll sit down with investigators as early as today. meanwhile, the first lawsuit against amtrak alleges gross reckless conduct. it was filed bid an injured off duty employee who claims he was violently hurled inside the rail car and suffered brain trauma. investigators now say the train was accelerating for a full minute before the derailment. 43 seconds before the crash 80 miles per hour. 31 seconds before the crash 90. 16 seconds before the crash more than 100 miles per hour. >> i don't think that any common sense, rational person would think that it was okay to travel at that level of speed. >> the question did engineer brandon bostian realize he was speeding? was he distracted? his attorney insists he had turned off his cell phone and put it in his bag, but he doesn't remember the accident. in a statement, amtrak's ceo says "amtrak takes full responsibility and deeply apologizes for our role in this
tragic event." what is amtrak's policies about distractions in the cab? >> we try to minimize those distractions. they're not allowed to have cell phones. they have to have them shut off and stowed. they can't use them. >> period? >> period. >> reporter: meanwhile, the ntsb is hoping to interview survivors about where they sat on the train and how they managed to escape. >> we want to find out where they were seated and their injury patterns so we can correlate their seating with the injuries for crash survivability issues crash worthiness issues. >> that was nbc's tom costello reporting. and now we're joined by nbc's rehema ellis in philadelphia. rehema, good morning. we're also learning more details about the safety system that could have maybe prevented this tragedy. >> good morning, jose. yes, indeed we are learning more about that. we're also learning that on the
southbound side of this track there was an older braking system called an automatic system that was in place and there was, however, no pt system, which is that positive crack and control system not in place yet. we are told the federal government has mandated there be pt systems on all of the rail systems in the country and it's supposed to be installed by the end of the year. but they were not in place. they're trying to get the electrical system up. so there's going to be questions that have been asked and many more will be asked about why it wasn't in place. one person was heard reported saying they didn't have it in place on the northbound side as this train was heading to new york because they didn't think that the train could get up to those high speeds as quickly at that point having left the philadelphia station at the time it did in the distance that's involved. i have to tell you too, jose.
it's a very different scene out here this morning versus a couple of days ago at the point when the crash -- shortly after the crash happened. there were fewer reporters out. you can't see it right now because of the truck going behind me, and theres a lot of traffic here, but you can take a look down the street and we don't see the emergency vehicles that we saw a couple of days ago in that area. all seven rail cars are now gone and amtrak is trying to fix the track and the electrical system to get the system back up they hope as early as next week. jose? >> nbc's rehema ellis thank you very much. coming up in the next hour, we'll hear more about the engineer and one of the victims in this tragedy. now to the white house. the amtrak crash was one topic discussed during president obama's news conference following the gulf summit at camp david. but the bulk of the time was spent on the summit itself and his assurance to gulf leaders that an iran nuclear deal would not come at the expense of their
security. the president even promised to use military force to protect them if necessary. kristen welker is at the white house. good morning kristin. >> you're right president obama's goal was to calm the fears of the gulf nations who worry they'll be vulnerable in the u.s. strikes a nuclear deal with iran. on thursday, the president offered those countries assurances that the u.s. will help defend against everything from cyber attacks to missile strikes. the u.s. vowing to offer military goods and also some training exercises. what the gulf states wanted they wanted a defense treaty and the president stopped short of offering that. what he did offer instead was a pledge to help protect the gulf nation. is he also made assurances that even if a deal is reached sanctions would only be lifted when and if tehran proves it's complying with the deal. the president and secretary kerry gave top officials a briefing about the status and argued any deal would make the region safer because it would delay the amount of time it
would take iran to make a nuclear weapon. only about two out of the six leaders invited to camp david attended. instead, the majority of the countries sent senior officials. king salman of saudi arabia did not attend. we've been talking about this all week. saudi arabia says the iran deal is not the reason but it does highlight the deep skepticism in the region. jose? >> kristen, i want to ask you about what the president will be doing at 11:00 when he speaks to a gathering of police officers. >> he's going to be attending the 34th annual national police officers memorial service. it aims to honor police officers who have made the ultimate sacrifice. you can expect president obama to pay tribute to them in his remarks. you can also expect, jose thousands of police officers from around the country really from around the world expected to attend that event which will be held at the u.s. capital. according to from tern order of police, one law enforcement officer is killed in the line of duty someone somewhere in the united states every 53 hours.
and since 1792 nearly 19,000 u.s. law enforcement officers have been killed in the line of duty. now, of course this year the event comes against the backdrop of tensions in some local communities with police. there's a wreath-laying ceremony immediately following the memorial service so it will be an emotional morning. jose? >> kristen welker at the white house, thank you. we're just getting started on this busy tgif edition of "the rundown." a lot to get through. we'll update you on developing news this morning. abc news man and former bill clinton communications director george stephanopoulos apologizing for donation he is made to the clinton foundation. we'll have details. also, speaking of the clintons, plenty of politics to get to. hillary clinton takes brooklyn while jeb bush takes it back on iraq. "meet the press" moderator chuck todd will joining me to talk about my conversation with harry reid who says when it comes to the race for the presidency among democrat there is's only one star.
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i want to take you to nepal, kathmandu, theamerican embassy giving a press conference right now. let's listen in. it's just starting out. this is happening at the annex of the american embassy at kathmandu. there's a makeshift series of tents. that's after the consequence of these two earthquakes nepal has suffered through in the past couple weeks alone. we see members of the military there. we have been reporting this morning jim miklaszewski told us the american huey helicopter that disappeared a has been found. it crashed into the side of a
mountain eight miles from where it took off as it was heading to an area severely affected by the first earthquake there. there were americans and nepalese troops on board that flight. three bodies have been recovered from there. officials are saying they doubt there were any survivors on that huey helicopter crash into the mountains of nepal. this is video of a similar helicopter being used in nepal to bring very badly needed supplies to people affected by these two earthquakes that have struck that country in just the last couple of weeks. this is just getting under way. this is the annex to the american embassy in kathmandu as you can see it is a somber moment. we'll keep a close watch on this and as soon as it does start i will bring you back to it. i think it's important we learn exactly the very latest from
american military officials there in kathmandu as to what has happened, why it happened, this helicopter crash in kathmandu which unfortunately now this morning confirmation that it did crash. the search had been going on moments after it went missing earlier this week. so we'll bring you that live as soon as that begins. but i want to turn now back to domestic politics. the patriot act, trade, and a key infrastructure vote are all on the docket of the senate. ahead of that, the outgoing senate minority leader harry reid sat down with me in his office, the same day the senate voted to debate a fast track trade deal that's divided his own party. one place where reid sees no divide is hillary clinton as the next nominee for his party in 2016.
joining me now is the moderator of "meet the press," chuck todd. how are you? >> jose, how are you buddy. >> good. reid told me there are no other all-stars out there for the democrats out there for the democrats other than hillary clinton this time around. how surprised are you by that answer? >> well, i wonder how surprised joe biden is about that answer if you're joe biden. don't forget joe biden hasn't said he's making a decision at the end of the summer. i am mildly surprised you didn't hear harry reid make a caveat for joe biden. i don't know if that should tell him something or if it's him assuming biden isn't running. i'm mildly surprised on that front. >> and, chuck, hillary clinton emerged in brooklyn yesterday. her campaign releasing a video of a walking tour. she said that she was talking to some real folks in brooklyn, according to politico. she ordered a salad at the local pizza shop. what's the strategy? >> look, anything i think to
make her more approachable when you look at their image -- and they're concerned about it -- there's an idea she's not an approachable person. when you've been in a secret service bubble for 23 years as she has been it sometimes can be very easy to get comfortable inside the bubble so i think part of this is not just about making her appear more approachable, i think part of this is getting her more comfortable outside of the bubble. however, let's not start talking about brooklyn as real america here. brooklyn is hipster capital of the world these days. it's not exactly iowa. >> and chuck what was the last time she spoke to the press, for example? that's been something she hasn't been very approachable on that front? >> well, not only that, i think the oddest statistic that we pointed out in first street a couple days ago, let me give you this one. since hillary clinton announced her candidacy for president, there has been a clinton who has taken quite a few questions from
the press. that clinton, though, is bill not hillary. he has taken 39 questions i believe, in various televised and on-camera questions from members of the media and that includes his letterman appearance. our own colleague cynthia mcfadden and christiane amanpour. so in the same time since hillary clinton announced her candidacy, the clinton that has taken more questions is bill, not hillhillary. 39-9. i think that's something they need to figure out how to correct. >> and i guess 39 questions would be a regular morning for jeb bush but he's found that answering some of those questions hasn't been very good for him recently. >> no, look i think there are two things that i take away from this week watching jeb bush's candidacy and watching him mishandle the iraq question. number one, i can't believe how flat footed he seemed to be on this iraq issue. you want to say you misheard the
question first time, fine. but the fact that it took him three tries to clean this up is a head-scratcher. it makes me wonder does he have the infrastructure around him, does he have people saying to him -- prepping him or is he just handling this on his own and are his aides having too much of a hands-off approach. the second development that i think on this story is is how comfortable the rest of the republican field the 2015 version of the republican presidential primary field, is very comfortable saying the iraq war essentially was a mistake. that they would haven't done it knowing what they know now. that's a gigantic development that you have the rank and file essentially of the republican party moving in that direction. i'm having flashbacks to the '08 primary. that was the mainstream democratic position in 2007 2008, but the fact that the republicans have moved to that position is quite a development. >> i agree with you chuck. you pretty much have to guess that they would have asked you
that question if you're jeb bush. >> if your last name is bush absolutely. >> you would have guessed that that was coming some time. sooner rather than later. but also -- >> it's not even a high hard one. this is not like one of those sneaky fastballs. this is a question you could be getting from a friendly interviewer or a combative one. >> you can throw -- close your eyes, throw the dart, it will hit the dart board and that will be the question. it doesn't matter. finally you have an official candidate senator rand paul on "meet the press." what should we expect there? >> well look, i think on this iraq question it is interesting to watch. ron paul and rand paul were seen as outliers on their position on iraq. they've always been comfortable criticizing the decision to go into iraq and now all of a sudden it's the mainstream position and it's a reminder that while some people think rand paul's foreign policy views will create problems for him in a republican primary, are they? or is the republican party
moving closer to him? >> and chuck we look forward to seeing that. harry reid talked about rand paul when i asked him about the patriot act. that's coming up today. but i can't wait to see "meet the press" as we do everyday sunday. thank you, chuck good to see you. >> you got it. thanks jose. rand paul will be one of chuck's many guests this sunday on "meet the press" and remember, you watch "meet the press" then you can see the spanish language version of it on telemundo. i want to take you back now to kathmandu where lieutenant general john whistler is giving an update on the marine helicopter that crashed there. let's listen to that. >> at this time i can confirm we have located the wreckage of uh-1 yankee huey helicopter missing since tuesday may 12. because of the nature of the wreckage it is unlikely there are any survivors at this time. our prayers are with the marines and the nepalese soldiers and their families. we all mourn this tragic loss of
life. the aircraft was positively identified at approximately 1:50 p.m. today, eight miles north of charikot. the wreckage was found at approximately 11000 feet in extremely dense forest and exceptionally rugged terrain. our nepalese partners originally discovered what they thought to be evidence of an aircraft mishap while they were flying patrols in this area in their helicopters. as soon as we were made aware of their first reports, we immediately diverted u.s. helicopters that were already in the air to the grid coordinates that they had provided by to us. at this time, i'm not able to positively identify the cause of the mishap. i'm also unable to positively confirm the identities of any of the remains of the service members, either from the u.s. or from nepal that were on board that aircraft. additionally, due to the extremely difficult terrain at
the site of the mishap below-freezing temperatures and violent winds and thunderstorms, i made the decision to cease the recovery efforts for this evening. we can not afford to put u.s. or nepalese service members at any further risk. at first light, we will resume the recovery mission. the six marines and two nepalese soldiers on board the aircraft were participating in disaster relief missions following the second devastating earthquake that struck this country. they were determined to go forward with their duties, eager to contribute to our mission and to alleviate suffering and to come to the rescue of those in need. they were courageous. they were selfless individuals dedicated to the international humanitarian aid mission here in nepal. we are deeply saddened by the discovery of this wreckage. and we will remain dedicated to the recover effort until every last marine and nepalese soldier is brought home. we are and will continue to work
closely with the government. >> that's the latest from kathmandu just moments ago. tragic news to report this morning. i also want to show you these live pictures from gilbert, arizona. this is a transformer fire at the srp generating plant. officials say the transformer carries a large amount of electricity but as of right now no reports of any power outages. we're working on finding more details for you. i will bring them to you as soon as we get them. we'll take a short break and be right back on "the rundown." this is good, mom. "good"? (chuckles) it's delicious! and this new kibble blend is so healthy. thank you. no, nancy, thank you. kibbles 'n bits. because every bit matters. wow. sweet new subaru, huh mitch? yep. you're selling the mitchmobile!? man, we had a lot of good times in this baby. what's your dad want for it? ..like a hundred and fifty grand, two hundred if they want that tape
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as soon as the jury reaches the decision we'll bring that to you live right here on msnbc. always a pleasure to see you ronan. developing news in the fight against isis we're getting reports from an iraqi official a few moments ago that isis militants have seized the main government compound in ramadi. at the same time, the terror group released an audio recording believed to be the voice of their leader abu bakr al baghdadi. it seems designed to do two things -- one rally his troops and remind his enemies he's alive and well. >> i want to bring in the author of the new book "ashley's war," gail, gras et to see you.
will et 50s talk about the audio aspect of this and i want to talk about your book in a minute. is it just audio. >> there are reports about how recent this is. but you can counter terrorism, but how do you counter an ideology that's appealing? i think this is an effort to say recruit and come to the battlefield. and that is the appeal of this message and i think u.s. officials are trying now to figure out exactly who it is and when it was made. but there's no question that it is getting listeners. >> if it is indeed him, i'm wondering why he would do it just on audio. there are some reports in the past -- and these are, of course never confirmable or confirmed -- that he was maybe injured some time or another. is it significant or really is the final thing really achieved whether it's on audio or video like this video that we have of
him some time ago? >> the messaging is effective. they've been very good at that. talk to u.s. officials charged with countering that messaging and they'll tell you about the real challenge of countering the appeal of that call to action. so i think it doesn't necessarily matter of its final impact whether it's audio or video. it's a call to action for people who are ready o to listen. >> gayle, let's talk about "ashley's war." your book is about a little-known program that recruited women for the war in afghanistan? >> yes the idea was women could bring something unique to the battlefield which is that some of the most tested special operations leaders in the u.s. military operation said we need women with female soldiers out there to talk to afghan women because we're leaving knowledge behind on the battlefield. so the recruiting call went out, female soldiers become part of history, join special operations
on the battlefield. and this whole team of incredible people answered that call "ash call. >> gayle, thanks for being with me. this morning we're saying good-bye to blues icon b.b. king and paying tribute to a career that earned him the nickname king of the blues. b.b. king picked cotton and sangs gosang s go gospel songs as a young boy. he charted duns of hits by playing his signature gibson guitar that he nicknamed lucille. it was king that inspired legendary performers from jimi hendrix to buddy guy and brought blues into the american mainstream. eric clapton called him the most important artists the blues ever produced. king was still playing and he was playing regularly into his 80s despite a long battle with diabetes. he died peacefully in his sleep in las vegas last night. he was 89 years old. after a career that carried him
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voted against. >> americans in our armed forces are being hammered with layoffs and reductions in force. representative gallego's amendment worsens their plight. >> right now in america dreamers can be drafted into the military but they can't sign up to serve in the military force they choose. that's simply unacceptable. these young people are americans in every respect except on paper. i. >> maria vasquez is one of those dreamers, arriving in the u.s. from mexico when she was six then joining the army jrotc programs with hopes of becoming a military nurse. she joins me this morning. maria, good to see you. >> hello. >> what was your reaction to this vote yesterday? >> well i was kind of upset because, you know i want to join the army and become a military nurse and the fact that this got shot down made me upset
because i was so close to joining the army something i wanted to do since i was a sophomore in high school. this was my dream and i -- yeah. >> maria why? why do you want to serve in the united states armed forces? >> well this country has been my home for at least 13 years now and when i was in the program i saw that the recruiters they always told us that it was amazing and right now i have friends from high school that joined the armed forces and they tell me it's a great experience and i want to be part of that. i want to be part of helping this country's armed forces. >> maria some people will see you and say "listen, you weren't born here why do you want to serve a country where you weren't born?" but the fact is you got here when you were six and you don't really know any other country. >> i proclaim this country my country because this is the only
country i know. i don't know anything about mexico. sure i know the culture and everything but i don't know all of it. >> maria, what is it that your dream would take you? when you're home thinking gosh, if i could only do this, this is what i would do. what are you going to be doing in five or ten years when we talk? >> well, right now i'm in the csi nursing program, well, pre-requisite, and i'm going to continue my dream for being a nurse and if a possibility of ever joining the military happens i will join right on the spot. and i'm going to try to become a military nurse. >> maria vazquez thank you for being with me i so appreciate your time. >> you're welcome. thank you for having me. >> thank you. i want to take you back to gilbert, arizona, the scene of a transformer fire i was showing you a little bit ago. there you see the -- this is happening at the srp generating plant. you can see firefighters are there on the scene. they've put the flames out. officials say the transformer carries electricity but as of
right now there are no reports of power outages. but as you can see, about five minutes ago this was just engulfed in flames but they do seem to have that under control. a lot of foam still being thrown on this plant. we're going to continue working out to get the details from exactly what's happening but the good news is right now it doesn't seem to have affected power supply throughout the area. i'll have more on this and a lot-of today's stories on "the rundown." stay with me. and the 45 highway mpg tdi clean diesel. and last but not least the high performance gti. looks like we're gonna need a bigger podium. the volkswagen golf family. motor trend's 2015 "cars" of the year.
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i have no respect for the bt of that country and it's too bad they're being treated that way. >> many of the journalists targeted in the lawsuit work for organizations that have published articles or featured stories that the government considers critical of the government. after a quick break, we'll take you live to phoenix for the rnc meeting as jeb bush tries to dig himself out of a hole over comments he made and then backtracked about the war in iraq. but first the dog dogma finally seems to be over for actor johnny depp. his two yorkies are now on their way back to the u.s. after the australian agricultural minister threatened to euthanize them. the a.g. minister accused depp of smuggling his dogs into the country without permits and a quarantine. but just a few hours ago, the minister tweeted "dogs gone." meaning they're not gone to heaven they're gone back to the united states. after saying even celebrities need to follow rules.
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for the fourth time this week, jeb bush is trying to set the record straight when it comes to his views on the war in iraq. bush now says knowing what we now know he would not have ordered the invasion. this is how it all started. this is what he first said. >> knowing what we know now would you have authorized the invasion? >> i would have. >> so in other words, in 20/20 hindsight you would make a different decision? >> yeah i don't know what that decision would have been, that's a hypothetical but the simple fact is mistakes were made. >> i think it does a disservice for a lot of people that sacrificed a lot.
>> i would not have engaged i would not have gone into iraq. >> jeb bush was also confronted wednesday by a student in nevada that told him that his brother was responsible for the rise of isis. that student is now speaking to msnbc. >> throughout the speech that he was giving and throughout the question and answer period that followed, he repeatedly reiterated not only that president obama's foreign policy was to blame for the rise of the islamic state but he also repeated more than once about how the united states is the greatest nation on earth and how in order to prevent future conflicts, we need to have a greater military presence abroad. i felt the need to talk to him afterwards, to hold him accountable for the lies that he was saying. >> well, with me now from the rnc in meetings in arizona is msnbc's kasie hunt still in front of that cactus from yesterday, right, kasie? >> we lit it up this morning for
"morning joe." >> very cool. in d.c., ed o'keefe from the "washington post." thank you for being with me. i want to talk to you about that moment jeb bush was confronted, because in the pictures, in the video, i think that you're right there, right? how did jeb bush react to that moment? look, there's ed right in the middle of the shot. see him? look, cross arms, look at that. so, ed describe the moment how did jeb react to that? >> well the fact that he turned around and took the question, i think, means that we should give him a lot of credit. and this is as emblematic as the kinds of exchanges he's been having all year as he's traveled. he takes the questions, he faces the music. rarely, and i think this may have been the first time a self declared democrat has come forward and confronted him in such a confrontational way but look, he turned the question respectfully said he disagreed and moved on. it was awkward for the reporters there to sort of watch this, and i think that's what we were reacting to it was such a
direct confrontation. and frankly, ivy, the woman who did this, probably is going to be cannononized by democrats everywhere because she got to confront somebody that's a leading contender for the republican nomination. it looks now this has perhaps been settled, but it does open him up to a lot of other questions about where he might feel differently with his brother on foreign issues, on domestic matters on issues of leadership, and i think it is a preview of the kinds of questions he'll continue to get from voters and from the press as he continues pondering whether or not to run for president. >> and kasie, how much does this damage jeb bush as a primary candidate? >> well, jose, i think it's raised a lot of questions about just how strong he is as a candidate. that's what i've been hearing here at the rnc, there's nervousness, people don't understand why he couldn't answer the question, answers
easy hell no, and took him four days to kind of get there but i think watching jeb over the course of this has been a pretty interesting study in how this campaign could go going forward. ed was eluding to this a little bit as he talked about that exchange in nevada, but, you know he was here yesterday. i was at this town hall in tempe with him where he finally made this final answer about iraq and it was clear it was almost like swallowing medicine for him. it was not necessarily something he seemed excited about doing. he seemed a little bit testy. he said you know, the world is still safer without saddam hussein, the war was not fought in vain by troops but i would not have gone in after all. so i think the question that it raises is whether bush, who's been relying on himself as a candidate to make a lot of these decisions about how to approach these issues, how he's going to shift that strategy going forward. >> kasie an edit, as well, quick question he has town hall meetings regularly? and who gets to come into those
town hall meetings? who gets to ask these questions ed? >> i mean, the ones i've been to it's essentially announced in the local papers local republicans find out about it but anyone can walk in. at that event in reno i met two people vacationing in nearby lake tahoe who had come from texas, had read about it in the paper, what the heck, let's see jeb bush. walked right in no questions asked. bush says look, no filter. nothing is out of bounds and that's the way he's been operating. >> quickly guys, i want to get your reaction to something harry reid told me yesterday about the only superstar in the democratic party right now. >> right now we have hillary clinton and that's it. there's not another barack obama out there. there are no holsters out there. >> so, very quickly kasie, a lot of democrats, what are they going to react to saying that?
>> well, i think he's right. that's a point a lot of people here at the rnc have made over the course of the past couple of days. they like to point to their wide field of candidates and say, look, we have all these options for our voters and there's no bench, no one else but her. on the flip side though, i think one of the things i've learned since being here in arizona, there really is no front-runner for the republican nomination and that's been brewing for a while. this issue with iraq really cemented it and jeb bush has sort of fallen to just the richest member of the pac. >> kasie hunt and her cactus behind her, ed o'keefe, thank you so much for being with me. coming up on "the rundown," we're going to get the latest on two developing stories, the crash of a marine helicopter in nepal and the amtrak drain derailment in philadelphia. next.
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welcome back to the second hour of "the rundown." we continue to follow breaking news out of nepal, where moments ago we found out likely no survivors of a crash of a u.s. marine chopper there. >> because of the wreckage it's unlikely there are any survivors at this time. our prayers are with the marines and the nepalese soldiers and their families. we all mourn this tragic loss of life. >> the american flag is flying at half staff this morning at the american embassy in kathmandu. the wreckage of that marine huey helicopter missing since tuesday was found in an altitude of over 1,100 feet of the himalayas, eight miles north of the town of charikot nepal. the air search for the chopper carrying six marines and two nepalese troops comes to an end and the recovery effort is now on hold. with more on this tragic crash,
kelly, good morning. what do we know right now about what might have caused it? >> well we have hints here and there, jose, but we don't know anything definitively as yet. that huey crew was overheard on radio chatter talking about a possible fuel problem before the chopper disappeared, but this morning the task force commander said they could not confirm the cause of the crash yet. at the same time vowing that they would find the cause eventually. a nepalese search team found this crash site. it's in dense forest on a very steep mountain slope at an elevation of 11,000 feet and nepal's defense secretary, excuse me, said that the helicopter was in pieces and that three bodies had been found. so suggesting that there was some catastrophic crash that this helicopter perhaps fell out of the sky. now the task force commander would not confirm that any bodies had been found.
when he was asked about bodies he said the u.s. military has not been able to positively identify any remains. a u.s. paramilitary rescue team was on site today. the conditions are so difficult, jose, the recovery effort is on hold until tomorrow morning. they are dealing with below-freezing temperatures thunder, lightning, and what's described as extremely difficult terrain. jose? >> kelly, thank you very much. now to the latest on that deadly train amtrak derailment in philadelphia. federal investigators say they could speak to the engineer, brandon bostian as soon as today. they want to make sure he wasn't texting or using his phone. the ntsb is hoping bostian can explain why the train was going twice the speed limit around the curve tuesday night. eight people were killed, more than 200 injured. also this morning for the first time we're hearing from friends of brandon bostian. nbc's stephanie gosk has that
part of the story. >> reporter: five hours after the deadly crash the engineer of amtrak change 188 changed his facebook profile picture to black. brandon bostian hasn't posted since, but comments from friends and family are flooding in. stay strong. supporting you brandon. you're in my thoughts, brandon. i know how dedicated you are to your job. there is a common thread bostian, they say, loves trains. >> he was doing exactly what he wanted to do. >> ryan smith met him at the university of missouri, where they belonged to the same church. >> i was shocked, considering what kind of person he is and what kind of love. he wasn't just doing this as a job, like, yeah i got to pay the bills so i'm going to take this job. this is what i love to do. >> reporter: the 32-year-old engineer grew up in memphis. in high school he wrote transportation stories for the local paper. as a college student he worked as a cashier for target. his first job with amtrak was in san francisco, working on the commuter line caltrain.
he was promoted from conductor to engineer in 2010. to be promoted he would have had to pass a course. 16 weeks of training. candidates have to already be licensed conductors and pass a drug test. hours are spent in simulators like this one which demonstrates the importance of maintaining safe speeds. >> this is a 25 mile an hour curve. if we were to take that curve at let's say 30 miles an hour even at 30 miles an hour it will roll the train over. >> reporter: modak's president believes the job is so demanding there should always be more than one engineer driving the train. >> we're tired and that's what they are not saying. these guys are exhausted they are overworked and the job is too much for one guy. >> that was stephanie gosk reporting. now to rehema ellis also in philadelphia with the very latest on the investigation. rehema, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, jose. what we can tell you is at this point all seven of the passenger
cars have been removed from the crash site that you can see behind me. also i think it's significant to point out that there is a lot less activity at that crash site, because it really is in the cleanup mode at this point. we understand that the engine car, and there is one mangled portion of a car that remains as they try to repair this track and get the electrical system back up and running. you also mentioned, i believe, they hope to speak to the engineer at some point today. his attorney has said his client has no memory of what occurred on that train at the crash -- at the moment of impact. that his client suffered a head injury himself but that he is willing to talk to investigators. they are going to be looking very closely to try and find out if they can figure out from him why the train sped up at the point that it did. according to the ntsb the information says 65 seconds before the crash the train was going at 70 miles per hour and then just 16 seconds before the
crash, the train was going at 100 miles per hour. and it actually crashed at 106 miles per hour. it's not supposed to happen like that and they want to know why it did. they are also telling us, this is important for people who ride these rails that they hope to have amtrak service from washington to new york returned in a limited basis by monday and back in full operation on tuesday. that is their hope. jose? >> ray may ma ellis, thank you. next hour the first funeral for one of the eight victims will be held in new york. his stunned community is remembering him as a star student and athlete. he'll be laid to rest with full military honors. this morning outside the u.s. naval academy, the flag is flying at half staff outside the dormitory where he and all midshipmen reside. and in brooklyn, new york. mourning the loss of 42-year-old
derrick griffith. i'm joined now by the president of medgar evers college. thank you for joining this morning. >> thank you, very glad to be here. >> talk to me a little about derrick, if you would extraordinary man. >> that's exactly the right word jose this is a man whose both knowledge and skill and temperament and passion all assembled together to produce one of the best deans that anybody could have on a higher education campus. he was extraordinary in every respect. he was consoling students he provided real advocacy for students. he did everything and whatever a 24-hour day can afford, he did everything for students that was conceivably possible. everyone loved him for that reason. >> also understand that he founded city university of new york prep? >> he did, he did.
this was a high school that essentially was established by the university of new york, aimed primarily at being able to provide real support and resources for students who were, frankly, disenfranchised from public education and needed to help -- have someone help them make a transition in their life. again, if you were to talk to those students you'd find the exact same report that i just gave. he was always available. he provided direct and clear direction for students. he was just an enormously powerful person in a space that oftentimes a lot of people don't really want to walk in in terms of the emotional and growth of young people. >> thank you again, sorry for the loss of you and your school, entire community, every single one of those eight lives lost had such an impact on so many people. thank you. >> my pleasure. up next new developments on the fight against isis after the terror group releases an audio recording believed to be their
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i'm satisfied. has it been perfect foreign policy? of course, not, but he's done a really good job. the situation in the middle east is disruptive as we speak it's a tough situation. the president has done the best he can with the tools that he's given by the constitution, what congress has allowed him to do what the american people expect from him. let's look at this.
we now have the ability for the first time in more than a generation to work out an arrangement with iran. is iran a perfect country? no. should iran have nuclear weapons? the answer is no. and we're on the verge, on the verge of having an agreement that the middle east will be nuclear free. we don't work that out with iran, saudi arabia has already said you want nuclear weapons in iran, then we're going to have them in saudi arabia. the president's done a great job there. what he's been able to do in trying to tramp down the turmoil has been incredible. has it been -- has he been able to work out all the problems? no but no magician in the world could have done more than what he's done. >> that was part of my conversation with senate democratic leader harry reid giving an upbeat take on the president's foreign policy. i want to bring in richard engel and steve clemons, and washington editor at large for the atlantic. let me ask you, do you believe
there's a larger role for the u.s. to play in the middle east in places like syria or iraq or yemen? >> well there is certainly an important role for the u.s. to play. i'm not sure, however, if lots of people would agree military analysts mideastern analysts about an upbeat assessment of the middle east. if you look at the middle east right now, you have yemen a failed state in a state of war between saudi arabia and iran and an internal war within yemen. you have libya as a completely failed state where isis is emerging, where thousands of migrants are leaving every week and many of them dying in the mediterranean. you have syria in just perhaps the worst kind of civil war that we've seen in decades anywhere in the world. you have iraq back at a state of civil war. so i don't think we have a
really very rosy picture of the middle east right now. you could say the president -- give him an "a" for effort but i think the results wouldn't be quite as glamorous of a grade. >> yeah, and steve let's talk about precisely the agreement that could be reached this june between the united states plus 5 and iran, that would cause saudi arabia to feel more confident about the situation. is that how do you think a lot of folks in the middle east see this agreement with iran? >> look, being a super power in the world is complex, because when you're not achieving your goals, the world thinks you are collapsing. when you are achieving your goals, the world has more confidence in the momentum you're building. so to reach an iran deal, whether you like it or not, shows that america is still playing a vital role in shaping the international system and that gives confidence to
countries, even those who disagree with the policy because it gives the sense that the american mystique of power is back and that those that know that we stand by certain allies and certain interests and even certain values know that it's better to have the u.s. perceived as powerful than not. so striking the iran deal uniquely will create an opportunity to show that we're back in the game. almost like a nixon goes to china moment where the world went from great doubt in the united states to a new confidence. so i think we're at that point again. >> and richard, we also got news about isis leader al baghdadi in an audio recording, believed to be him. what do we know about this recording? >> well, believed to be him. it's about half an hour long. it was released yesterday amid quite a bit of isis fanfare. it was simultaneously released with several different foreign language translations. in it a voice that does sound very similar to previous recordings that have been
attributed to al baghdadi. he talks about the need for muslims around the world to join the islamic state, to come join the fate of which he believes he is the calas or the leader of the islamic world. it's a bit of a proof of life video -- proof of life audio recording, in that there's been a lot of speculation over the last several months really that baghdadi was injured may have even been killed. in this recording he refers to some recent events. he talks about the war that's happening right now in yemen so if it in fact is him, it would be an indication that he certainly wasn't killed and didn't appear to be gravely wounded. but aside from that i didn't see anything overwhelmingly significant in it. it's more of a re-establishing his credibility his presence on the ground, with his typical call on followers to come and join the islamic utopia he's
pretending to have established in syria and parts of iraq. >> i want to play part of what jeh johnson said on "morning joe" about the terror threat at home, here. >> much of our concern continues to center around aviation security, which is why i directed enhancements to aviation security at what we call last point of departure airports overseas that have flights directly into the united states. we continue to evaluate whether more is necessary. >> is this whole airline security something you think is key, as well? >> well i think that when you hear a tape like baghdadi, you saw the arrest of a man yesterday in texas who was looking at someone who had gone to try to fight with isis and come back, we just don't know where the threats will come from, so aviation security is there, but so is cargo and the ports in miami, there are all sorts of soft points in the transportation system that just don't involve airline passengers, but involve others, and i think they are taking them seriously across the bard.
particularly when you have amor fis calls for people to take actions wherever they are. >> thank you very much for being with me, appreciate it. >> thank you. sflmptle coming up, details of this dramatic video of a police officer in georgia being dragged by a suspect's car. it was all captured by a body camera, as well as security cameras. and later, the fight of the century. well, not quite. this one is actually a good cause. more on romney versus holyfield.
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visiting schools in one of the poorest parts of the state. this morning cosby appeared on abc's "good morning america" responding to questions about the allegations some decades old that he drugged or sexually assaulted multiple women. >> my point is, okay listen to me carefully, i'm telling you where the road is out. now, you want to go here or you want to be concerned about who's giving you the message? i have been in this business 52 years, and i looked. i've never seen anything like this. and reality is the situation. and i can't speak. >> cosby and his attorney have repeatedly denied a sexual assault allegation and cosby has never been criminally charged. now to weather. san diego got caught somewhat off guard by a pair of major rainstorms.
overnight, several storms got caught in storms. it was raining so hard the padres had their first rain delay since 2011, lasted almost the rain in california, though, is doing little to help the drought there. check out this drone footage shot by our nbc team over a lake. the water level so low it's exposing vast terrain of hills and valleys once totally under water. and to the nfl and tom brady appealing his four-game suspension with the nfl. players association is asking for an outside arbiter citing the nfl's history of "inconsistency in arbitrary decisions in disciplinary matters." late last night nfl commissioner roger goodell said he will be the person to hear that appeal. this morning the patriots have created a website challenging the bomb shell report that brady was probably at least generally aware that team employees were deflating footballs. brady has denied any involvement or knowledge of this.
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>> we have four republican senators who work with four democratic senators and brought to the senate more than a year ago a comprehensive immigration reform bill. it was good. it was very good. and we passed it. and it went then to the house of representatives, where they've done nothing with it. if they allowed a vote in the house, even today, it would pass overwhelmingly. but what's happened in the senate with these four republicans, they are running like scared dogs now from what they helped put together. marco rubio, i'm sorry to say has run from his own plan. >> joining me now is msnbc's alex wall and mark caputo. mark, do you agree with what senator reid says that rubio and others are running like scared dogs from the immigration story? >> i wouldn't say a scared dog but he's right. i resisted that narrative rubio was running away, but a few months ago i asked imhad, look
if you had the opportunity to vote on your bill again, would you? he said it's pointless because it wouldn't pass the house. let's say your bill passed the house and came back to the senate, would you vote for the bill? it's a hypothetical and he wouldn't answer. yeah, rubio's certainly a hot potato, not my bill. >> he has that he feels is it a one big big bill is not the way to go on immigration, it should be piece by piece, which is essentially the opposite of what his bill's done. >> that's true, however, his original position was he did compromise to become a part of the gang of eight, now he says that didn't work but the thing is as he's essentially disavowed his original plan. >> alex, the hillary clinton situation on immigration, is that a plan or is that just promises that she couldn't really deliver? >> well i think it's a value statement more than a policy rollout. she wanted to lay down a very
strong marker, energize latinos, draw sharp contrast with republicans and the details can come down the line. not to do too cynical, but she has to be elected first, then worry about following through on the plans later. so i think this was mostly about a rhetorical marker than specifics. >> yeah but everybody that is a candidate is just a candidate until they win and they do have to come up specifics, but mark, what did you think about that? >> we keep talking about on the republican side the adelson primary, the koch brothers primary. the owner of univision made quite clear he not only backs hillary clinton, but his network made clear he wants a path to citizenship, they like the stuff hillary clinton is talking about. to win the hispanic vote if you have favorable coverage in univision, you're going to win that. hillary is doing favors regarding the issue of immigration and the republicans, as you saw in the house
yesterday, are not doing themselves many favors regarding this issue. >> and guys, i want to stay on hillary clinton and play another piece of my interview with senator reid about her singular status on the democratic party and the role that her husband bill may play. >> let's talk a little bit about 2016 a little bit more. you told my colleague chuck todd in 2008 -- sorry, the 2008 primary between hillary clinton and barack obama was, "an extremely healthy process," you even called it wonderful. is there concern that this time around there won't be that vigorous debate between democrats? >> think how wonderful that primary was. two all-stars two people that will be in the political hall of fame no matter what happens in the future and they were involved in a primary. right now we have hillary clinton and that's it. there's not another barack obama out there. there are no all-stars out there. she has a clear field and i'm
glad she does. >> so sanders and maybe other former governors et cetera, you don't think that's going to be really a -- >> well, i love bernie sanders great guy, i've served with him here, and he's in the race. he'll -- he develops conversation, that doesn't hurt hillary at all. >> senator let's talk about bill clinton. do you think the whole bill clinton global initiative is kind of taking away or putting pressure on hillary clinton's campaign? do you think bill clinton should step aside? do you think if she were to win the presidency he should step aside from the foundation? >> people do not understand the strength of hillary clinton. she's a marvelous woman, independent, thoughtful, smart, experienced. and bill clinton will step down from whatever he needs to do to help his wife. the foundation which has done
so much good around the world, haiti, for one example, no organization other than the united states government itself did more to help than the clinton foundation so i don't know all the intricacies of what he will do and what he can't do, but i know he'll step aside any time he gets in the way of his wife. >> so, alex surprised by that answer? >> no i'm not. democrats are really you know coming up behind the clinton foundation and hillary clinton here and that's the line that bill clinton said. he told nbc, in fact, that he would step aside from the clinton foundation if need be if hillary clinton becomes president. but it does raise a larger question about what bill clinton's going to do. he's a huge asset a giant star on the democratic side most popular politician in the country, but he's also a loose cannon and a bit of a liability so he's going to take a more back stage role until we get to the general election. >> i still think it's probably news to bill clinton he's stepping aside. he said it but you're talking about the scared dog thing.
he's still called in democratic circles the big dog and i don't see the big dog not wanting to go out and hunt. >> thank you very much. we've been talking about dog racing hunting on the show. thank you guys appreciate it. developing this morning, former bill clinton communications director george stephanopoulos apologizing for $75,000 in donations he made to the clinton foundation. in a statement delivered on "good morning america" today stephanopoulos cited donations to dozens of charities he has made and said his donation to the clinton foundation was to help aids children, and protect the environment but he should have, "gone the extra mile" to avoid even the appearance of a conflict. also developing in boston, we could get a decision any moment now for the jury deciding the fate of marathon bomber dzhokhar tsarnaev. deliberations for the day began about two hours ago. jurors are choosing between life in prison and the death penalty for tsarnaev. he was convicted in april 2013
attack that killed three and injured more than 260 others. let's go live to boston, where ronan farrow is. good morning, where do things stand right now? >> reporter: so, in the courthouse behind me the jurors are deliberating. jose, it's anyone's guess how long this is going to drag out. to give you a sense of perspective, in the oklahoma city bombing case that ultimately did put timothy mcveigh to death, that jury took about 11 hours. in a fairly recent massachusetts case where the jury came back with a death penalty sentence, that took about 12 hours in the multiple murder case. it's anyone's guess whether this will fall into that same range. they are in about their tenth hour of deliberations right now and everyone is just reading the tea leaves at this point little signs like dzhokhar tsarnaev in court, being talkative, his lawyer shushing him twice. >> ronan farrow, thank you very much. we will, of course continue to watch as the jury deliberates and as soon as they reach a decision, we'll bring that to you live. also developing in colorado,
for the first time jurors in the movie theater shooting trial are getting a close up look at key evidence at the crime scene at the theater. james holmes is facing the death penalty for the attack that left 12 dead, 70 others injured in july of 2012. on thursday an investigators showed jurors parts of the wall removed from the theater with bullet holes in them. one of the survivors showed jurors her injuries. holmes is pleading not guilty by reason of insanity. trial resumes on monday. more than two dozen remain hospitalized after tuesday night's amtrak derailment in philadelphia. the ntsb hopes to speak with the engineer as soon as today. they want to know why the train accelerated in the moments before the crash. eight people were killed, more than 200 injured. local hospitals had to spring into action. 26 patients were rushed to einstein medical center. msnbc national correspondent joy reid spoke to the chairman of the trauma unit there. >> how many people are we
talking about? how many people have to be activated and are we talking about staff that's already here or in the case of the amtrak derailment are people actually coming in from home? >> it was really quite amazing as to what went on. we had staff that was at the end of their shift who insisted on staying. we had people coming in at the beginning of their shift coming in early, chief of surgery all came in voluntarily as soon as they heard about the disaster. we had at least eight or nine e.r. physicians down here, we had two surgeons we brought a blood bank up here, we had radiologists techs stay tremendous amount of personnel that were available. what looks like chaos to some people is a sense of organization and a flow to get these people, to get these guys evaluated, put them in the appropriate place, take care of the most acute ones immediately. the reason why this thing really worked was because people just -- no one asked these guys to stay. nobody asked these guys -- day
shift realized what their job is and most of the people here are so dedicated they knew they had to stay and help. people were coming in from all over the place. we didn't have to call anybody. >> that was msnbc's joy reid reporting. an officer dragged by a suspect's car, the afghan attack and missing girl in mexico. let's zoom through some of today's top stories. in georgia dramatic video released, there you see some of it showing a police officer being dragged by a suspect's car. the incident happened at a gas station where the officer was investigating a shoplifting car. >> for safety reasons pull your keys out of your car. >> refusing to take the keys out of the ignition luckily the officer not seriously injured. the 23-year-old suspect turned himself into police on thursday. he's charged with assault of a police officer and felony obstruction of an officer. the american killed in wednesday's attack in afghanistan at a hotel there has been identified as paula kantor,
a development worker who was the former director of an organization to improve life in afghanistan. 46-year-old was killed along with 13 others in a taliban siege at the park palace hotel. it's believed the taliban was targeting americans and foreign dignitaries at that hotel. finally, some welcome news for an american mother and young girl involved in a cross-border custody battle. a mexican prosecutor says dna tests show she is the daughter of a houston woman. missing since 2007 when her father allegedly took her to mexico without her mother's consent. last month a judge erroneously sent another girl to be reunited with the houston resident but days later dna testing in the u.s. proved the girl was not garcia's daughter. she was returned to her family back in mexico this time they did a dna test in mexico before shipping the girl out of the united states. up next, a huge weekend for sports fans. there's the winner of the
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if your pill isn't giving you the control you need... ask your doctor about non-insulin victoza. it's covered by most health plans. what an exciting weekend for sports fans with the 140th running of the preakness stakes. an early favorite american pharoah arrived at the track on thursday. thoroughbred won the kentucky derby earlier this month, will need a win this weekend if he wants to be the first triple crown winner since 1978. joining me now, good to see you, good morning. >> good morning. all systems go right now for american pharoah. he's looking pretty good in all of his morning work so far, so fingers crossed in the bob baffert camp right now. >> he's drawn the number one spot for the race. talk about why that spot can be a disadvantage or an advantage. >> well i mean, i think it actually could be an advantage.
you know i mean the number one post position at the kentucky derby can often be a disadvantage because of you have a 20-horse field to navigate. in the preakness the field is more manageable this year only eight horses for example. and in the kentucky derby american pharoah was in the middle of the racetrack around both the turns. he actually spotted some significant ground to firing line the runner up and dortmund the third place finisher. if he can maintain his position on the rail with victor espinosa, the number one post can actually be a big help to him in the preakness. >> and talk to me about the differences, the key big ones between churchill downs and this race. >> well, honestly, it's amazing how often the horses from the kentucky derby come back to the preakness two weeks later and maintain their form. in fact, jerry bailey and i, my colleague at nbc, went back over the last 20 preaknesss and we found only two kentucky derby
winners we thought came to the preakness two weeks later and didn't run their usual race. the layout to the racetrack are exactly the same, they are both one mile. the distances are only a 16th of a mile apart, the preakness is 1/16 shorter than the kentucky derby, so there's a very strong similarity between the two races and no reason to think that american pharoah won't run as well in the preakness as he did in the kentucky derby. he'll face some tough competition, but we still should see the same american pharoah. >> going to be very interesting to watch. randy moss always a pleasure to see you, my friend. thanks for being with me. >> take care. >> race day coverage begins at 2:30 eastern tomorrow on nbc sports network, continues at 4:30 p.m. on nbc. american pharoah is clearly the favorite there. my favorite? ronan farrow. sounds similar two totally different people. now to the main event
happening tonight in utah. take a look at this weigh-in from yesterday. look at that. yes, that's former republican nominee for president mitt romney on the left and former heavyweight champ evander holyfield on the right. i think that's the first time mitt romney has been on the left of anything. going to take things into the boxing rink tonight in salt lake city all for charity. both taking things very seriously. >> i train every day for people a lot tougher than mitt romney. does he even work out? have to go out and do the best that i can. >> you may think this is just a joke, but i'm taking this very seriously. hello? >> hey, that's exactly my workout routine every single day. i don't have anybody to help me on that but i think romney and i can probably work out together. and now, of course my producers want me to challenge someone to a boxing match. are you kidding me? you think -- i'm not going to
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and now to the loss of a legend b.b. king was known to millions of fans and generations of blues lovers as the king of the blues. he died last night at the age of 89. king was known for his distinctive style and iconic voice. he won 15 grammys and was inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame in 1987 during a career that lasted well over six decades, and along the way, king changed blues music itself. a short time ago president obama said in part "he gets stuck in your head, he gets you moving, gets you doing things you probably shouldn't do, but will always be glad you did. b.b. king may be gone, but that thrill will be with us forever. there's going to be one killer blues session in heaven
tonight." joining me coanchor of "the cycle" who most recently wrote a book on another icon, prince. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> so many great blues players. what set b.b. king apart? >> many things. one thing that always kills me is the way he played that guitar, which he called lucille, and he wanted it to sound like singing, to sort of replicate sort of human emotions through that. and he did that so well. i mean, it really does sort of sound like the guitar is sort of singing somehow. really powerful. it's amazing how that guitar got its name lucille, funny story, he was playing a gig in the '50s, two men were fighting that led to a fire in the club b.b. ran out, went back in to get his guitar later found out that the men were fighting over a woman named lucille so he named his guitar lucille. lucille forever after that. >> you know what toure i remember 1980 i went to see muddy waters, muddy waters
passed away in 1983, it was a small venue, weren't a lot of people there. i keep thinking, god, this is one of the giants as well. what is it about b.b. king he was able to get through and break through to so many millions of people when other giants couldn't do it on a mainstream way? >> part of that is a mystery to me, because all those folks like muddy waters are amazing to me and this is classic important roots music, some of the greatest music we've had. b.b. had a better way of connecting with masses and, you know, to his credit he leaves this earth as a millionaire with a big mansion in vegas, his name on b.b. king blues clubs all over the place. we should not leave out of the story here is a performer from a long ago era who was able to monetize his talent and keep a lot of the wealth himself. a lot of these folks who got huge in the '50s and '60s were not able to keep the wealth that they generated, so kudos to him
for figuring out how to do that. >> he'll be missed. i always think god, so many giants, just created such an incredible body of work and yet they just weren't able to break through the way b.b. king, you know, look at prince. is there anybody more influenced by past giants than prince? and yet there he is being able to carry through and you know, create a body of work on his own. >> yeah you know what, i love the idea when u2 did "rattle and hum," their album let's think about america, travel through the american south and see what's going on and they call on b.b. king to do a song with them, "when love comes to town," which is one of my favorite b.b. king songs. he's on other places in that album, too. this guy represents something critical in americana. he was doing 200 to 300 shows a year for about five decades jose. that in and of itself is
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they found the wreckage at 11,000 feet in dense forest. six u.s. marines and two nepalese soldiers within onboard the aircraft that disappeared tuesday while on a run for earthquake relief. the commander praised the crew and said the mission would go on. >> they were courageous. they were selfless individuals dedicated to the international humanitarian aid mission here in nepal. we are deeply saddened by the discovery of this wreckage and we will remain dedicated to the recovery effort until every last marine and nepalese soldier is brought home. >> nbc's kelly cobiella joins me with an update from london. any word on the recovery of those