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beginning when i heard this that something happened that wasn't explained and i thought maybe it was going to be able to -- was going to be able to explain this. it could have been that it so shocked him that. >> we continue to follow what's happening here in philadelphia. that's the ed show for this week. politics nation with reverend al sharpton starts now. >> we start tonight with breaking news. dzhokhar tsarnaev has been sentenced to death for his role in the boston marathon bombing. the jury deliberated for little over 15 hours in the penalty phase of this trial. tsarnaev is the first person sentenced to death in federal court since timothy mcvey, the
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oklahoma city bomber in 1997. appeals will likely go on in this case for at least a decade. family of several victims were in the courtroom today including the parents of the youngest victim martin richard. the u.s. attorney from massachusetts spoke after the verdict. >> our goal in trying this case was to insure that the jury had all of the information that they needed to reach a fair and just verdict. we believe we accomplished that goal. today the jury has spoken. and dzhokhar tsarnaev will pay with his life for his crimes. >> joining me now from boston is holly bailey, the national correspondent for yahoo! news. she was inside the courthouse today. and former federal prosecutor
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paul butler. thank you both for being here. >> great to be here. >> holly i want to start with you. can you describe the scene in the courtroom today when the verdict was read? >> reporter: well, it was very quiet and i think every time that we ever see dzhokhar tsarnaev in court we look at him for any kind of reaction or emotion and throughout this trial he has shown very little of it and it was not any different today. he just stood there with his hands clasped in front of his body. his attorneys asked for each of the jurors to be polled and as they each rose ask said that they voted for death, some of the jurors cried and tsarnaev looked at them but he didn't have much emotion. >> holly, what was the mood in boston outside of the
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courthouse? >> i would describe it as very somber. it was actually very strange. there was a huge media presence here obviously. when i came outside after being in the courthouse for the verdict, it was just eeriely silence. it was just very somber i would describe it. after wards i saw the richard family leave and, you know, there have been sort of the poster family for the crime. they have been ripped apart by a crime that cannot be undone. >> their son was the youngest victim. >> reporter: yes. they looked stricken. i don't think anything changes for them after this. >> paul the defense team tried to spare tsarnaev of the death penalty largely by arguing he was under the influence of his older brother but the verdict form read in court shows only
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three jurors believed that to be true. whydid this jury have a hard time buying into that defense. >> the prosecution was relebtless in presenting mr. tsarnaev as a cold-blooded calculated jihadist who showed no remorse and on the basis of his killing four people including an 8-year-old boy did not deserve to live and the jury was ultimately persuaded. ironically, there was so much attention put by the prosecution on the 8-year-old because that's an aggravatinge inging factor the jury has to find factors that are aggravating. if a victim is unusually vulnerable, that's an aggravating factor. this 8-year-old boy's parents did not think that mr. tsarnaev should receive the death penalty. they were advocates of life without patrol but the jury
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wasn't allowed to know that. >> the families of several victims spoke today after the verdict. one mother was asked if she felt closure. here is what she said. >> i have to watch my two sons put a leg on every day. i don't know cloe sure but i can tell you it feels like a weight has been lifted off of my shoulder. so i think there is some form of a good feeling. >> a lot of family members and victims were in the courtroom every day. did this provide the motional backdrop for the entire case? >> reporter: definitely. i mean whenever we would see it this is a trial that has been horrific testimony. we have seen horrific pictures and video and we saw them again and again. the prosecution really hammered in how awful this crime was. we saw, i mean ma tin richards' bloody clothes. we saw pictures of limbs hanging off.
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we would see the jury glance in the direction where the families were sitting and many families were crying along and it was a very, very tough trial. >> tsarnaev's defense attorney, judy clark has successful spared several high profile defendants the death penalty in the path including the unibomber and the man who shot gabby gifford giffords. the defense was unsuccessful in this phase of the trial. what will the strategy be for the likely appeals process, paul? >> reporter: you're right. judy clark is one of the best lawyers out there. really her strength is getting plea bargains before the trial in which the government agrees to life without patrol but here the prosecution was relentless from the attorney general on down at only going after the death penalty. so there will be a long appeal process. timothy mcvey, it took him four
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years to be executed. that was actually pretty quick. there are other people who have been on death row for 10 years, 20 years is not unheard of. it's not the beginning but not anywhere near the end of a long legal process. >> holly bailey, not berry as i mistakenly said, holly bailey and paul butler thank you both for your time tonight. >> you're welcome. >> thank you. >> we also have breaking news in the deadly train crash in philadelphia. the ntsb interviewed the train's engineer and two other employees today and say they will call in the fbi to review the damage. they say the engineer brandon bostian has been extremely cooperative but listen to how he described one of the employee statements just moments ago. >> she also believed she heard her engineer say something about
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his train being truck by something. our investigation is nothas not independently confirmed this information but we have seen damage to the left hand lower portion of the amtrak windshield that we have asked the fbi to come in and look at for us. >> joining me now is nbc news correspondent rahima ellis. thank you for being here. >> absolutely rev. what you were just playing there was the ntsb official telling us about an assistant conductor who was in the fourth car of amtrak train 188, talking about a radio conversation she heard between the engineer of her train, the fatal amtrak 188 and a local philadelphia commuter train, they call them septa.
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the engineer said what you just heard from the ntsb folks. that some kind of a conversation was going on and the engineer said that he thought that his train had been hit by a rock or shot at and he saw some damage to the windshield. the engineer of the amtrak train 188 responded saying something similar had happened to him as well. ntsb says they will bring in the fbi to examine that front of the engine to see if there is any kind of damage to it consistent to a rock damage or any kind of shot being fired at it. out of this news conference you were saying that indeed they did interview the engineer of amtrak train 188, that he was cooperative, that his lawyer was with him but he has no recollection of what happened after he left fillphiladelphia station, 30th street station blew the whistle as was the normal procedure and after that
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he just doesn't remember. >> we can also look at the thoughts that bostian reportedly reported. he reportedly said i wish the railroads had been more proactive in adopting safety technology and it shouldn't take an act of congress to get industry to adopt common sense safety systems on their own. the ntsb has said he is being extremely cooperative. how can he help with the investigation, rahema? >> reporter: how can he help meaning the engineer? >> yeah. >> reporter: i suspect what he is doing right now. that is not hiding himself or shielding himself from authorities, but coming forward with his lawyer present and answering the questions to the best of his ability. at some point, they are going to have to match what he says with what happened. they will be looking very closely at the front of this
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train. did he suffer a traumatic experience that made it impossible for him to remember? questions they are trying to find answers to. >> rahema ellis thank you for your reporting tonight. coming up president obama's powerful statement today about police officers killed in the line of duty. and the need to restore trust in the community. also jeb bush's awful week and what it's done to what is now a very crowded gop presidential race. and remembering a king. the world honors the blues legend. i will talk about his life and legacy with some legends in their own right. stay with us.
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>> coming up, jeb bush has had a tough week and he has plenty of
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it seems like every day another republican is running for president. the latest? former texas governor rick perry. he's making a special announcement about it on june 4. joining the six other republicans who made their campaigns official. but there's more. the republican national committee is running a 2016
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straw poll on its website and it has 36 potential candidates. 26 36. it's like an entire baseball team plus half of another one. and a party official admitted they don't know what to do with all of them during debates. >> there's no cap. what there is is some realities. some logistical realities that you could only fit x number of people on the stage. >> some think it's surprising that they're at this point. jeb bush was supposed to scare everybody else out of running. instead he stumbled again and again. luckily the architect of his brother's campaign can see the bright side. >> the good news for him is he's had a bad week and he's got 36 more weeks until we start voting in iowa. >> yeah, he's got 36 more weeks but he could have 36 more bad
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weeks and he's got a whole lot of competition trying to knock him off stage. joining me now is former rnc chairman and msnbc political analyst michael steele. thank you for being here. >> hey rev, good to be with you. >> i want to get to the crowded field in a second. but first can jeb bush recover from his mistakes when there are so many other candidates who would like to see him fail early? >> you're right about the candidates who want to see him fail early. particularly those that have carved out the right flank on foreign policy. the marco rubios of the world. this real big mistake this week helps them and plays to that particular narrative. but i think carl rove is right. at the end of the day, bush will weather this. getting his sea legs if you will. he has not been a candidate for office for close to 13 years.
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the dynamics have changed, the 24 hour news cycle. this was a good first test of that. they failed it but it was a good test to see what they need to do in order to get him ready to roll out in june. >> a "new york times" reported on some of the strategies the rnc is considering to deal with all of the candidates and governor bobby jindel's allies have come up with an interesting idea. one idea they have thrown is back to back debates with seven to eight candidates thosen at random at each. could that go completely off the rails michael? >> yeah, you think? can you imagine the country tuning into three days of debates with republican candidates? i don't see that happening. they will probably figure out a way to narrow this thing down a little bit and allow for as many as possible, somewhere between 12 and 16 on the stage.
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after a point, as you know, having run for president you want more than 30 seconds to answer a question. and that's what you're getting close to the more candidates you have up on the stage. i think the parties have got a good problem. they have got a big bench that they can go to unlike the democrats who are trying to figure out who they can get into the campaign. republicans are trying to figure out who we can keep off the stage. it's an interesting dynamic for sure. >> let me go back to jeb bush because he really stumbled when trying to talk about the iraq war but there are a lot of other questions about his brother's policies that jeb bush could be asking. like would you support water boarding as an interrogation technique? would you have cut short your vacation to oversee the response to hurricane katrina? would you have supported the trouble asset relief program which bailed out banks during
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the 2008 financial crisis. can he handle these questions, michael? >> yeah, i think he can for the most part reverend. this first misstep probably awakened him to certain new realities for the campaign. he answers though questions to what point. that's history. you're saying what you would have done seven years ago. i think the country wants to know are you prepared to take us to war again over the next seven years, over the next four years over the next three years. so i think there will have to be that balance of wanting to figure out what he would have done the same or different versus what he's going to do in his own right as president. you will get some sense of that in how he answers those other bush questions. the questions i'm interested in is how does jeb bush division himself particularly given the way the economy is. that will be a very interesting
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conversation for republicans to have. now you don't hear people running around talking about the obama economy the way they were three years ago. people's attitudes are changing so there will be real interesting pressures brought to bear on that front as well. >> michael steele thank you for your time tonight. have a nice weekend. >> you, too reverend. >> ahead, a blues great dies. i will talk to music legends gladys knight, dion warwick and patty labelle about the legacy of b.b. king. good. very good. you see something moving off the shelves and your first thought is to investigate the company. you are type e*. yes, investment opportunities can be anywhere... or not. but you know the difference.
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if you watch fox news on a regular basis, it is a constant menu they will find folks who make me mad that i don't know where they find them. like i don't want to work. i just want a free obama phone. or whatever. >> president obama going after right wing media this week for depicting low income americans as lazy and leeches. and john stewart reviewed the record. >> let's demonstrate fox's contempt for those in poverty in our first course of this meal. >> america's poor are actually living the good life. >> pennies from government heaven. >> the united states of entitlement. >> a nation of takers.
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>> entitlement tote. . >> scary. we have nothing against the poor. it's just that their ravenous greed bursts through america's chest like an alien. >> it's one thing for the right wing media to live in denial. it's another thing to see the reality of right wing policies around the country like in wisconsin where lawmakers passed a bill preventing welfare recipients from buying seafood and forcing people to take drug tests. are the leading gop contenders pushing trickle down policies railing on entitlements and calling for cuts to the safety net? it might start out as just more ugly rhetoric on the right but it ends up having serious real world impact. joining me now is clarence paige
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from the chicago tribune and msnbc contradictor victoria francesco-desoto. >> the president was talking about the impact the media can have about how americans think about low income americans. how critical an issue is this? >> i was supposed to see the fox news folks getting defensive about this. all of the sudden they are sounding ashamed or embarrassed that they portray the poor as being leeches or free loaders who don't want to work. this is a constant narrative and that has an impact on people who listen shs who either desire or innocently wander into having their perceptions of the poor distorted. there are people who cheat here and there on government benefits. that's also against the law and people do go to jail for that
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sort of thing. but we're talking about say low income working single moms who are waitresses or other minimum wage jobs who are trying to get by on minimum wage. that's a very different picture than what you see on fox most of the time. >> victoria talked about the right wing getting defensive. here is how fox news reacted to president obama's comments. listen. >> i think the president is spinning the failure of his own policies and i think he's blaming us and i think we are an honest messenger. >> it's a distorted view of fox. it's not the first time and won't be the last. >> president obama takes a swipe at fox news today for showcasing low income folks who are gaming the system on his watch. >> what he's trying to do is shield americans from the truth. >> he's letting us know that his arrogance knows no limits. >> victoria is the right wing media living in a state of denial? how do you pierce the bubble?
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>> well, what is striking to me, reverend is that level of defensiveness. there is a there there when they get so prickly about the comments the president made and one of the presidents that the president is tapping on is the lack of consistency in the gop. the gop is very quick to refer to christian values and what would jesus do when they're talking about abortion and gay marriage but they forget that the christian world view is also about providing for those who are less fortunate and they can't scare that with the rhetoric, the imagery, the really bad examples of the few people who game the system and they play that over and over again. they know that they are in the wrong and that's why they are getting so defensive. >> you know, clarence an nbc wall street journal poll found
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63% of democrats believe that poverty is caused by circumstances beyond a person's control. only 27% of republicans believe that. how much of that is a result of the depictions and the right wing media of the poor as lazy moochers just looking for a handout? >> whatever doesn't originate with that right wing view is certainly reinforced by it. we're talking about a defining issue between right and left. on the right you have folks who say that if poor urban blacks for example, didn't have so many children out of wedlock we wouldn't have the poverty problem. on the left the argument is that structural changes in the economy have changed. you know we have so many industries that brought jobs to urban dwellers that aren't here any more. they have moved overseas or otherwise or you need higher skills that are being provided by the system.
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that's a defining issue of american politics today. that's why the way issues of poverty are covered is so important. >> we also hear this ugly rhetoric from right wing lawmakers. scott walker in 2008 using the term poverty pimps to describe government assistance. listen. >> i think for too long and i will say this as a fairly agrez aggressive term but i think there are too many poverty pimps, government officials who rely on poverty as a means of political ceil, community based organizations who rely on their existence by perpetuating the cycle of dependcy. >> do republicans in 2016 risk the same backlash if they use this kind of ugly language victoria? >> regrettably i don't think this is going to be the last of
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the poverty pimps that we hear from scott walker. he's going to use knit the primary but then he's going to be in a lot of trouble when he gets into the general and there is a larger pool of people and they will not stand for it. >> clarence, victoria, thank you for your time tonight and have a great weekend. >> you, too reverend. >> thank you reverend. >> next the legacy of a blues legend. i will speak to dionne warwick, gladys knight and patty labelle about b.b. king. stay with us. you know our new rope has actually passed all the tests. we're ready to start with production. ok, are you doing test markets like last time? uh, no we're going to roll out globally. ok. we'll start working on some financing options right away. thanks, joe.
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>> today we mourn the loss of a legend and a king b.b. king, king of the blues and legendary guitarist passed away today at the age of 89. from his childhood as a sharecropper's son b.b. king rose to become one of the most influential artists in popular music. he started recording in the 1940s when he became known as blues boy king or b.b. king. over four decades he won 15 grammys. in 1995 he was the first blues musician to be honored with a kennedy center lifetime achievement award. later playing at the white house for president obama. >> the king of the blues, mr.
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b.b. king. [ applause ] ♪ ♪ let the good times roll ♪ ♪ i don't care if you're young or old ♪ ♪ get together and let the good times roll ♪ >> and he never stopped perfecting his music. >> today for a sound, you know, like the guy, i haven't been able to find that completely. i'm satisfied at times with the sound of my guitar. not all the time but sometimes i'm satisfied with the way that it seems to sing a bit, but it is a little something there that i hear but i can't tell anybody about it. i don't know how. but i if ever get it i will know. >> b.b. king impacted musicians across generations including some of the biggest stars of rock and roll. >> i wanted to thank him for all
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the inspiration and encouragement he gave me as a player over the years and for the friendship that we enjoyed. there are not many left that play in the pure way that b.b. did. he was a beacon for all of us who loved this kind of music and i thank him from the bottom of my heart. >> b.b. king continued touring all the way until until last year with his famous black gibson guitar which he named lucille. he is no longer with us but his legend will live on. joining me on the phone is dionne warwick patty labelle, gladys knight and a disciple, joe bonamasa who first opened for b.b. at the age of 12. thank you for joining me.
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>> thank you. >> hello everyone. >> hello. >> hey. >> dionne war wickwickarwick, let me begin with you. it's such an honor to have all three of you together and joe. what did b.b. king mean to you? >> oh my goodness to me he was probably the epitome of the word gentle man. he was a kind human being. he always had kind words for me and words of encouragement. and it is just a shame that he has made his transition already. but, you know, he's in better hands right now. >> patty, you performed with b.b. king, what do you remember most about being on stage with him? >> just his wonderful spirit and we were both diabetic so we would talk about our problem and i just, i loved him so much and i know that he is resting in a better place because when you're
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not feeling that way, it's time for you to leave. you know, i pray for the family. but he is such a memory. i mean, he's one of the best ever. >> gladys you performed with b.b. king and you called him a brilliant man. why do you think his music resonated with so many people? >> well for one thing he touched the spirit. any time you touch the spirit it's going to resonate. he was uncle b.b. to us. you know how we talk all the time especially among our people about the village? i was 12 years old when i first went on my super sonic retractions tour, okay? and we have been knowing uncle b.b. way before that because he used to play in atlanta. he and my mom got to be friends because we would perform in atlanta. when we would go on the road he
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would just show up even if he wasn't performing he would just show up and say you kids hungry? he was more than a performer to us. he was a family member and he extended that village that my mom and dad and uncle. so you will get a sense of knowing who the man really really was. and plus he lived in vegas for such a long time and we were at his house just about as much as we were at our house. >> wow. >> he was really really a family member. taught us about the indusry. if we did something not too cool on the road, uncle b.b. would come and chastise us. what are you doing? why did you do that? you shouldn't do that. he was an amazing human being. we know the masterful musician that he was. and is. he going to be playing up there in heaven. >> you got that right. >> but that's the way he was. and we used to wonder how my mom knew about everything we did on
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the road and her and uncle b.b. be talking you know the kids did so and so today. they did good. or they didn't do this. he was an amazing human being that cared that edd edd that much. >> what memories stick out with you about b.b. king? >> i was asked to do a duet with him and i kind of scratched my head and said b.b. king wants me to sing with him? he gave me the time to be there and i was there two hours before he even showed up. i was so honored that this man asked me to sing with him the song called humming bird. i -- half the time i wouldn't know when to come in because i was so busy listening to him. >> yep. >> wow. >> he was just the perfect, perfect musician, entertainer,
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man. >> you know, patty. >> we toured together a lot. >> oh really? patty, you are known for your outstanding presence on stage and all, but what advice did b.b. ever give you that stuck with you? did he ever give you guidance or advice? >> advice, it was about the illness. diabetes. take care of myself. and just always kind. such a wonderful man. >> yes. >> we talked about that. we had that in common. and of course, he appreciated my talent and of course i appreciated his. so it was like you know, playing when ever we performeding to, like playing with a friend. >> you know, one of the things that struck me about him, gladys, is i met him through my civil rights work and being close with james brown. he was a real gentleman.
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he wasn't like the rough and tumble guys you would meet in the music industry. >> nothing like that at all. he had a spirit and light about him that when ever you were around him you wanted to do right. you wanted to do good. when you did good he let you know you did great, baby. you know? stay true. stay this way. stay that way. you know? and he was a great example. so many talk out of their mouths and don't live it uncle b.b. lived it and that's what made him so special. you could see his light. >> uh-huh. >> and work ethic like you would not believe. >> uh-huh. >> the man was working all the time. say uncle b.b., when you going home? >> that was part of my conversation with the queens of soul remembering the legendary b.b. king. we have more ahead on his influence on young musicians and how he inspired a generation. that's next.
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>> i thought that was something very striking about him, dionne. >> absolutely. >> that was something i adored about him. when ever he walked into a room, you had no choice but to smile. >> uh-huh. >> he brought that out of me. the first thing i did was i grinned. a big old grin on my face. he was, as i said, he cared about women and he did not allow any disrespect when he was in the room with women. just a magnificent man. >> what would be his legacy patty to mu schisms for years and years to come. >> to stay true to your craft. believe in yourself. as the lady said respect women. and respect the world. he did that.
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that is the legacy that b.b. is leaving with us. we lost benny king. we're losing a lot of our wonderful talent. he was probably also misery and wanted to get out of here. but they all left us with great thoughts of gentlemen. they were both gentlemen. they were wonderful people to perform with and be around. >> joe, give me, joe, a sense of him as a guitar player. you are a guitarist and brought a lot of what you learned from his influence into a new generation. give me a perspective as a guitarist. >> as a guitar player when b.b. played one note you knew it was him and that was his fingerprint. it's so hard as a guitar player to find your own sound and your own style.
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to be able to identify yourself musically with a single note was in intrensically the three kings could do that. it's important to remember that bb i met him 25 years ago and he helped me get started in the music business and i'm not the only person that he did that for. he gave me a stage and allowed me to play to his audience and om of them became my audience and i could never repay that debt of gratitude that i have for the man that befriended me and gave me the opportunity. >> one of the things that i have heard all day is how he would help younger artists and as you hear these three queens talk about how they were much younger than him but he never tried to hog the spotlight. he kind of pushed young people. >> he always wanted to see the
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blues flourish and his outlook was the more people young people that are involved in it the healthier the music is. and you see that now with a bunch of, you know, i call them kids, they are 20 years younger than i am out there making records, touring all in the legacy and foundation that b.b. king laid over the last 60 years. >> patti you talked about how he stayed true to his craft. blues becoming a real authentic american music it was really rooted in our community and he rooted it in the nation and the world. how important is that to what he would want to be remembered as? >> he would want to be remembered as just what you said. i mean he started. he kept it clean. he kept it honest. and there are so many people who are -- i have a guitar player who sounds just like him and we call him little b.b. there are so many people, not just blues people people of all
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music love b.b. king. >> so many things that we don't get credit for as a people blues and jazz started right here at home with us and with him being so pure with his music and to be able to reach all audiences, all kinds of people and that kind of thing is quite an honor and we respect him for it. most people do. i think it's something that he deserves that honor that he kept it all this time. you know what he used to do with us before we got to be headliners talking about being unselfish in the industry. when we toured with him like after the first maybe a week out there, we used to do like 65 one-nighters. >> really? >> that was the tour back in those days. and before we got through the first week he would say y'all closing tonight.
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>> that was unheard of. >> so unselfish and we got our feet wet with him watching us. him saying that was great. see how you did this and that? i can't tell you enough about uncle b.b. >> do you think that anyone can appreciate this? i mean in the music business it's so competitive but he seemed not to be full of that competitive spirit. he knew who he was and was comfortable with that. >> undoubtedly. >> absolutely. >> you look at people like eric clapton who would jump a mountain to be next to b.b. and has. >> absolutely. >> within the rock -- i mean every arena of music b.b. was revered and deserved being revered. >> uh-huh. >> he's magic. >> right. in or out of the country. >> uh-huh. >> all over the world. >> all over the world.
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>> he's certainly made his mark and the whole world remembers him and remembers his music forever. i'm honored that y'all would take time to remember a man that never forgot all of us, dionne warwick, patti labelle and gladys knight and joe, thank you for remembering and sharing your memories of b.b. king with us. >> we love him. >> bye, everyone. >> bye bye. >> bye, everybody. you can now use freeze it to prevent new purchases on your account in seconds. and once you find it you can switch it right on again. you're back! freeze it, only from discover. get it at if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis like me and you're talking to your rheumatologist about a biologic... this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage. this is humira giving me new perspective.
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everybody else is running the other way. >> president obama speaking on the final day of national police week. he met with families and loved ones of officers killed in the line of duty and he said we owe it to them to work on bringing the police and community together. >> we can work harder as a nation to heal the rifts that still exist in some places between law enforcement and the people you risk your lives to protect. we owe it to all of you who wear the badge with honor. and we owe it to your fellow officers who gave their last full measure of devotion. >> powerful words. and i want to close tonight by thanking once again dionne warwick, patti labelle gladys night and blues musician, joe banamasa for calling in and remembering b.b. king. let us remember if we just
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