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already, but that continues to need to happen. and the contrast between that scale of what happened here and how little attention to it is being paid by the rest of the country, ignoring this disaster and that pristine ek logical system on the santa barbara coast is not going to make it go away. that does it for us tonight. we'll see you again tomorrow. now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. there are now eight officials candidates for the republican presidential nomination, but the newest entry will only have a chance if he could find a republican billionaire crazy enough to back him. luckily for that candidate, we've got some pretty crazy billionaires. >> it looks to me like they're going to jail for all the money that they -- no! >> the fifa scandal. >> make responsible -- >> ghee i wonder why people would hold him ultimately responsible. >> the buck will stop here.
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>> carried out by global banks. >> there's like 3,000 people running for the republican nomination. >> this morning, i announce i am a candidate for the republican nomination for president of the united states. >> we have too many emcees and not enough mikes. >> you've got so many republicans dividing up the money. >> elections are bought and sold now by billionaires. >> they stay enough of the folks in washington. >> republicans, democrats, it's all green in the dark. you know what i'm talking about. >> dub has made it all but impossible to get knit kind of change. >> we will england gladly finance them longer. it's dirty, dirty money. >> of all the long shot candidacies of presidency this year none so far is a longer shot than former new york governor george pataki who is a fading memory in new york and a
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virtual unknown to the receipt of the country. he made his announcement today in new hampshire. this is normally the spot where we would show you the candidate's announcement, but this segment isn't about george pataki. we will probably never do a segment on george pataki as he languishes on the bottom of every poll. but what if george pataki can convince some new york billionaire he knows to back his candidacy? what if? money changes everything in politics and today politics is all about money. we have what nicholas cristoff calls in his "new york times" column today a disgraceful money-based political system. in that system all it takes is one billionaire to one an irrelevant candidacy into at least briefly a real candidacy. four years ago, newt gingrich said everything that billionaire sheldon adelson wanted to hear so the gingrich candidacy was able to have its moment of surging in the polls before
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vendoring the nomination to mitt romney.but the gingrich candidacy would have flamed out much, much longer and would have always been irrelevant were it not for that one billionaire. if you're thinking a billionaire would have to be crazy to back george pataki i wish i could tell you that none of our billionaires are crazy. there are now eight officially republican candidates for president. there they are. joining us now is jeffrey sachs, professor of economics and director of the earth institute 59 columbia university. daurn corn is the washington bureau chief of mother jones, msnbc political analyst and teresa i go to as an economist to try to put this whole ugly picture around the world together from bribery in the world cup which i feel is
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surprising no one to this gigantic money mess that we are seeing in our politics now. >> well i think there are two things to say. one is there is so much money at the top. 1,826 billionaires at last count around the world with $7.1 trillion, trillion of network. and theimpunity. we live in a period of unbelievable cynicism. we laugh, we cry, but basically, you look at this sepp blatter beast of irresponsible, corrupt guy and he's likely as we read in the papers to win re-election tomorrow in an utterly corrupt organization. but you don't have to go to fifa for that. just go to wall street. we have ceos of our top wall street firms that have paid tens of billions of dollars of fines
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for malfeasance and at the white house, they keep their top positions. they take home massive pay. this is an age of impunity. it's a disgrace. eventually, it's going to lead to an explosion. the question is when. >> katrina, we're watching this game being played by jeb bush now, which is just a mockery of these campaign finance laws. he's pretending he's not yet officially a candidate for president simply so he can raise more money very directly with the super pac that he would not be able to officially coordinate with if he was a declared candidate. >> it's a disgrace larry. you said it at the top of the program. the question is are we a government of by for the people or are we one of these ol georgeal countries which we issue human rights around. arey burman in the nation this
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week writes about how the wealth primary is underwriting voting rights. 50 years ago african-americans were discriminated against by poll taxes, literacy tests. today, the skyrocketing costs of campaigns, including the super pacs have made everyday americans rightful vote mean not enough mean too little. and the other thing i say is it's not just about access and influence. it's about the ability to shape the debate that goes on in this country. that is why there's a striking disconnect between what is going on inside the beltway in washington and the views of evidence americans, which it's on job creation on higher minimum wage on affordable college, taxes, progressive taxation and, finally, to pick up on what jeffrey said we live in an age of impunity. there is an inequality of accountability. why is it that those who -- the war in iraq or the bankers are
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not held accountable while someone in louisiana has life without parole for stealing a $149 coat? all of this doesn't make sense. we need to find a you in way. and there are solutions. i'll let david speak. he's my long time colleague. but there are solutions. public financing, which this city of new york has and it has changed the political landscape and there are bills with only one sponsor. there are both in hoc to the systemic corruption. >> david, so far in this campaign season the easiest thing i've heard candidates say about what to do about this is we'll push for a constitutional amendment to change citizens united which they know is never going to happen. the constitutional amendment process isn't going to get them there. >> you know in some ways we've
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been talking about this for a couple of decades now. every couple of years there's some reform and then a supreme court decision comes along or a new way to skirt the rules and we're back to the races with money having outside influence. it seems to me that until there's enough of a scandal or enough of a persistent wheel of corruption that is accepted by 60%, 7 0% 80% of the public and they care about it things won't change. because, you know, you can poll this again and again and again and everyone thinks the system is corrupt. but they don't make voting decisions based on this. they don't give money to public interest groups and so on to fight the stuff. the public kind of accepts this. you know unfortunately, and there can be a great cristoff column, a great piece this the magazine professor sacks can
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come one a great analysis. but at the end of the day, if american voters and american people decide -- let's say they care about this enough the people with the money who have a strong investment in this stuff are still going to have the upper hand. >> but people have an interest too, david. >> well, they do. >> and i think we're at a risk of being too cynical about this. this is going to feed the view that ahh, government let it go, any government views. we have to take back government and clean it up not say it doesn't work. by the way, we've moved from a discussion of campaign finance, not blocking money, but small donors, public finance. look at bernie sanders. in 24 hours, he raised $1.5 million, the median amount was $42. there are people around this country, if you have public financing donors who can make a difference. >> i think that's a very important point that one way that we're going to make a break through, i think, in the end it's not going to be starting with the legislation much less an amendment, but a candidate
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saying i am not lost. i am not taking big money. i'm taking small money and then free media, social media, the public being -- having all the revulsion that the public really does say, i am for that person. >> and breaks that tv consultant industry, just as you want to break the lobbying industry. but the tv consultants are turning around and putting money in their pockets as they get money from the campaigns. we need as jeffrey said social media internet. it will make campaigns -- and by the way, the other thing, look at the uk election, our former colleagues david's and mine edward milliband didn't quite make it but it was a two-month campaign and it cost so little. we can take lessons. >> but we know the reforms that are needed. we know there are lots of good ideas out there and we've seen some candidates when barack obama ran in 2008 you know he set a record in terms of small
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donors. >> and big donors. >> and big donors too. but people did flock to the small donor message. the question i really have is will there come a time when a candidate on a statewide level or a national level really can use social media and use these small, you know donor delivery mechanisms through social media to outdo and show that this can be done in a way that other people will repeat. >> it may take city by city david. mayor de blasio credits the small donor financing system with its election. the city council in this city has changed, the landscape has changed. issues that were off the radar, paid sick leave, a living wage these are all issues that can move forward. but the rules are rigged right now. elizabeth warren says it is as good as anyone. and until that shifts, that's the money. and making the connection. although i agree with you, jeffrey and i agree with you when we look at scandal.
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how much more scandal do we need? what is the tipping point? >> that is the question. we didn't get the last dose of reform until after we had keating five and john mccain and others became feingold being the other reformers out this. then the supreme court came along and undid all that political reform work. but political reform is that the is that people respond when there is a very identifying individual scandal and the corrupt constitutional scandal -- jeffrey knows this better than anyone -- is the stuff they're able to get away with on a day-to-day level. under the radar, even though it's in plain sight. and the watergate scandal helped give us our fist big wave of campaign finance reform to the question of a candidate leading this movement. the question is is bernie sanders that candidate? katrina is so far -- he's the guy who is raising the money in that straight up you know small donor way. >> and it's not just the way
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he's ray raising the money now, larry. he has a wrong track record of speaking out against the corrosion, the corruption of this country by those oligarchs. to drive those issues into this campaign could lift it up. and he has allies. again, you know, in the house, there's a very good bill government by the people. 146 cosponsors. one of them walter jones, a republican. if people can know there are ways to get involved and do something and mobilize around candidates, around these issues, it will be a move. >> and i think we have to say the clintons are not a pretty picture in this story. they the ultimate schmoozers. bill clinton is the one that opened the democratic party to wall street. really wrecked the party in idea idealogical terms and created a
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lot of the miss which i have that led here. and now we see how just frankly in utter pursuit of money they are all the time. so this is a -- they're vulnerable vulnerable. now, where is the candidate? maybe it is bernie sanders. but somebody can stand up and make this point and get quite far down the road on this. >> the interesting thing, i don't disagree with anything that jeffrey just said but one of the four issues that hillary identified is going after big money. she knows she's vulnerable and i think she's going to try to address that. >> we're going to have to take a break. david and katrina, thank you for joining me. professor sacks, please stay with us. i need a tutorial from you later tonight. coming up what bill o'reiley got wrong in his so-called truth serum segment last night. that's what he calls it the truth serum segment. he apparently forgot to drink the truth serum. and later, jon stewart has
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the united states supreme court will make a decision about the meaning of one line of in the affordable care act. that line says that subsidies for people who cannot afford insurance will be available to people who purchase their insurance in quote, an exchange established by the state, end quote. the obama administration has argued that that phrase should be interpreted to mean an exchange established by the state or the federal government since it was the federal government that established the exchanges in most of the states because most of the states decided not to establish exchanges. people who got their health
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insurance through those federal exchanges could lose it if the supreme court reads that sentient to mean only the words contained there. joining me now, the person who supervised the writing of that report and ezra cline, msnbc policy analyst. russ what happened here? we got ourselves a legislative language mess here. >> well, it's a complicated statute, lawrence. it was a big bill and what happened was when we merged two difference versions of the bill, the bill from the finance commit and the bill from the health committee, we took the pieces and decided the tax credit should be available, but that was the finance committee version. and we added that to the health committee version which gave the states the option to establish their own exchange or to rely on
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the federal government we failed to bring over a -- a small piece of language that would have clarified that when there is a federal exchange operating in the state, that the tax credits are available for all the citizens in that state, as well. >> and ezra this kind of thing happens a lot, as you know. and when you're dealing with a massive big bill like this with a lot of moving parts, the likelihood of a little flaw like this showing up is very high which is why they always used to -- a few months after the big bill passed maybe a year later, they would pass the so-called technical corrections bill when you would go in and say, well this is what this part here meant to say. but in this congress, there's no real chance of passing any kind of technical correction. so the supreme court is basically deciding whether they're going to do a technical corruption to the bill. >> right. and i think a different way of putting this is there's one version of this that is about the law and clarity in the statute and another version of
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this which is about sabotage right? there's one version which is plowable. you have unclear language in this section. if you read it in context, it's clear what's going on. if you read it in context of everything else in the bill, history, the supreme court is not going to gut obama care over a reasonable interpretation of that section. so you've developed a -- or republicans developed this other argument which is in fact one section of the bill is not unclearly worded. that section of the bill is not a grammatical mistake but, in fact that is exactly what republicans meant to do. congress gave states an option to let the federal government build their insurance case but if states took that option the federal government would -- that state's insurance market. and congress didn't tell itself it was doing this and it didn't tell the obama administration
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and nobody told the states. that side of it which is the argument that is being made because they want the supreme court to gut the bill and in order to convince them to do that they need to convince them it is congressional intent that is almost like a jedi mind trick than a reasonable interpretation of what happened in this bill. >> and, russ the only support for that that anyone has been able to find is jonathan gruber speaking to saying, oh yeah this was absolutely deliberate. it was to make an incentive for the states to create their own exchanges. he has since said he was wrong about that. but in all of the -- people who really know are you and the staff people who really wrote this bill, republicans and democrats and in robert paire's report in the "new york times" the other day, interviewing all of you, he couldn't find anyone on the republican side on any
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side who said there was ever a moment where we contemplated the possibility of not giving subsidies to people who got their insurance in the federal exchange. >> and that is right. and the reason is because it did not happen. i mean i was there for virtually all of the discussions leading up to the senate passage. many of them with republicans in the room most of those discussions not public and so are not on the record. there was a lot of discussion about how these tax credits were going to work who was going to benefit, what income levels how big the tax credit would be and what kinds of insurance product, be it high deductible plans, catastrophic plans or more basic plans would be eligible under the exchange. but everyone assumed and knew that these tax credits were going to be available for all americans. >> and, russ you were in a lot of closed door private conversations in which republican senators would easily comfortably have said to you,
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what's going to happen in my state if my republican governor declines to create an exchange? what's going to happen to those subsidies? if there was ever a whiff of the possibility that this kind of interpretation was available. >> well and it was not just the republicans who might say that. the democrats in the room including the chairman that i reported to max baucus of monday would have had the same concerns. look, the senators ask how this is going to work we explained it to them, that this is like you're going to and you're going to purchase an airline ticket or you're going to reserve a rental car. you'll have a variety of choices, categories, compare the price and make your selection. now, when we explained that to them as we moved down the line they alternatively said well we're going to have states set up these changes right? and we explained to them yes, this is going to be like the
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college savings plans under section 529 of the code. each state can establish an exchange but everyone is eligible for the tax provisions under that provision. and the senators said great, we understand this. >> russ how many of the senators knew what you were talking about when you mentioned expedia? >> they all knew what we were talking about. this was 2009. >> russ sullivan ezra cline, thank you both for joining us tonight. >> thank you. coming up what is the worst possible threat facing the middle east in the long-term? it might not be what you're thinking. and jon stewart has one idea that he really wants people to steal. now, comedians are very very protective of their ideas. but not this time. this is called non-24. learn more by calling 844-824-2424. or visit
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. . . the middle east may be torn by uprisings and terrorism led by the islamic state and other groups. but in the longer term possibly with those extreme challenge to life in that residential could be something much more basic. water. >> when you look at a world map of drought, lo and behold the middle east which is already dry, it's been drying. so places like syria, like iraq
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from the point of view of violence and conflict those are also drought stricken places and it's not a coincidence. drought is one of the factors that is leading to instability already. and we are just playing with unbelievable danger to think, oh, that can just go on and the world will remain safe. >> back with us jeffrey sacks, author of the book "the age of substantial development." dr. sachs, does this offer more cooperation because of this desperate need to get water and to transport it across borders? >> possibly, but probably not. and, in fact what happened in syria already is showing how these things roll out. the whole decade from around 2000 to 2010 was a very bad drought decade.
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and the years from 2006 to 2010 were the worst drought in syria's modern history, devastating. people fled the drought stricken places, food prices hiked, that led town rest. the government responded with a sharp crackdown. that led to an insurrection. that led to a flood of arms flowing in from all the regional powers from us through the ci aand so forth and you have a bloodbath. i wouldn't say the drought was the only caught the miserable governance all of the other reasons for fighting prevail in syria, but you get instability when people are hungry when places become unviable. we see it as that clip pointed out not only in syria, we see it in yemen today, we see it in somalia. i see it all over the world as
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i'm traveling on behalf of the united nations how many instability there is because people can't be secure in their homes and communities and we're seeing it in the united states and the terrible tragedy in texas right now. we have created and are creating all over the world major climate disruption because we haven't gotten on top of this reality of human-made climate change and done something about it which we could do and we could do it quite low cost, actually. >> let's listen to what president obama said about that today. >> the best climate is is in the scientists in the world are telling us extreme weather events like hurricanes are likely to become more powerful. when you combine stronger storms with rising seas that's a recipe for more devastating floods. climate change didn't cause hurricane sandy, but it might have made it stronger. the fact that the sea level in new york harbor is about a foot higher than it was a century on
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ago made the surge worse. >> now, you said this year 2015 could be a crucial turning point on this issue. tell us about that. >> first, it's going to be the hottest year in the instrument on record. that means going back to 1980. we're going to have a blowout year this year on top of the ongoing human made warming we have a big el nino shaping up and this is going to add to the earth's average temperature. but at the same time we have a make or break summit in paris at the end of november beginning of december when after 23 years of failure to implement the treaty from 1992 we're going to have what is in effect our last chance to complement this treaty. that meeting is kopd c.o.p. 21
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conference of the parties 21st session of the parties to the u.n. framework convention on climate change. it's all mouthful but what it means is back in rio at the earth summit 21 years ago, the world said we have to get on top of this. 23 years later, we still have not been effective in doing so because of the powerful interests of oil, gas and coal because of the difficulties of getting global agreements because of the opposition we fasd in the united states to the rights in taking this issue seriously. now our backs are to the wall because if we don't have an effective measure reached we're going on to breach all consistent measures of safety we're going to reach temperatures that are absolutely dangerous planetwide. >> jeffrey sachs, thanks very much for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> the book is entitled "age of sustainable development open." coming up, bill o'reiley has
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in tonight erewrite -- tonight's rewrite. >> a ban of using first class air fare will not get a vote in the house. >> if you are going to call a segment truth serum one of the ingredients has to be truth. let's see how true last night's segment was. >> your members elect canned fly first class any time they want. they get an allotment of money through the budget and this year this legislative operations branch got $3.3 billion. it's divvying up among the members. they get different amounts based on how far away they live from washington. >> so far so good, all true. >> it's a lot of money. and the senators and congress people they lay out and usually through their chief of staff who they have to pay $200,000 a year
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or whatever. how the money is allocated. >> you have to listen a little more carefully when that guy is talking. the truth suffers a little bit especially if numbers are involved. no chiefs of staff in house or senate none get paid $100,000 a year. house members are pay $174,000 and their chiefs of staff are all paid less than that. members of congress and senators would be paid much more if they got cost of living increases like they used to but in the age of o'reilly members of congresses have tried to cut their own salaries by ending cost of living increases. because they don't want bill o'reilly to think they are living large they have gone
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without a pay increase for six years. >> wouldn't it be interesting to see how many of them are living large because that's always the accusation that not only do they make a decent salary. we don't begrudge them that they have perks, cafeteria perks, free food and how many fly first class, i bet most of them do. >> since we don't know exactly how many have flown first class at government we don't actually know how many of them have flown first class at government expense and it's just a matter of betting, i'm going to bet most of them dent do that on a regular basis. a lot of their flying is paid for by campaign funds, not taxpayer money because they are going to campaign events. more of that campaign-paid flying is likely to be first class than the government-paid flying, especially if they're flying to raise money for the party, not their own campaigns.
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and then of course a certain amount of first class seating is diaw to free upgrades that frequent flyers get and all members of congress are very very frequent flyers. and surely some of the government-paid first class flying members of congress do is because the only seat available on that plane was in first class and they had to get back to washington for an important vote or they had to get back to their districts or state for what they considered an important event. members of congress tend to make those flooits flight reservations at the very last minute because they never know until that last minute when the congressional schedule will allow them to travel. so it's not all about washington fat cats living large. >> there's really no oversight on how they spend the money. they just give them a block of money. but if you run out, that's it, you don't get any more right? >> yeah. and heaven forbid that you would have too much and have to give some back. i don't think that happened. >> can't they use that money, though, if they don't spend it all for their campaigns and
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stuff? >> well, you could use it on office supplies. >> okay. now they're both wrong. bill o'reiley actually thinks that they can use money from their government office budget for their campaigns. he doesn't know that this would be a federal crime. the maestro of the truth serum segment who talks about politics and government every day, talks about money and politics in government every day complains about the use of money in government is offended. offended at the idea that members of congress or senators would ever sit in first class. that guy actually thinks members of congress and senators can can can use their government office money on their campaigns. they can't even use their government office telephones for their campaigns. and then the bit about giving some of the money back? >> heaven forbid that you would have too much and have to give some back. i don't think that happened. >> now, that sort of thing would
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never happen on fox news but it does happen in reality. and the politicians who do it make a big deal of it as if they've done something significant to reduce the federal deficit. senator rand paul gave back $500,000 of his senate office budget last year. he's given back almost $2 million of that budget since he's been in the senate. and rand paul is not the only one who gives back money to the government every year. >> heaven forbid that you would have too much and have to give some back. i don't think that happens. >> well at least she admitted she wasn't absolutely sure of what she was saying. i don't think that happens. but admitting that you might not know what you're talking about is not bill o'reiley's style. >> i have seen it many times myself. i fly in and out of d.c. all the time. but do i know if they're traveling on their own dollar which they can do over and above what they spend in public spending?
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>> no, they do not. >> or if it's their own money. but we've all seen them in first class. that's not where i'm sitting. >> well you knew it was bound to come to that. any discussion of air travel always gets down to where you sit on the plane. >> here. she can have my seat okay? everyone should experience first class at least once in their life. she should experience it. >> no ma'am, i'm@frayed that's not allowed. >> we have to roll in the troops here and take that back just a bit. we were just about to learn where bill o'reiley sits on planes. >> we've all seen them in first class. that's not where i'm sitting. >> okay. all right. so right now, the system is going to stay the same. >> folks, we never did learn that. i guess the idea of the truth serum segment is that the guest takes the truth serum and the host just continues to drink water because at no moment in last night's truth serum segment did we learn where bill o'reiley sits on airplanes himself.
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of course there's no reason to discuss that unless you're doing a segment complaining about people living large in first class and, yes there is a huge difference between government-paid flying and privately-paid flying. but when you're doing a truth serum segment about members of congress flying first class, if you have just an ounce of truth serum in your system or just an ounce of self-awareness you'd probably say something, something about your own experience on airplanes, just as bill's guest did. i've never seen bill o'reiley in an airport, but if i do i do not expect to see him standing at the gate staring at his name on that upgrade waiting list just hoping that this is his lucky day.
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and save without settling. only on verizon. jon stewart's last daily show will be on thursday august 6th. he has shown himself to be a singular presence on television. as a he leaves the stage, he is
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doing something that no stand-up comedian has done before. he is urging people to steal his ideas. a in work times reports that jon stewart has been running a boot camp to help military veterans break into the film and television industry. the daily show veterans immersion team began last year with the help of corporate partners. jon stewart has accepted the give them 20 challenge, 20 push-upes and a salute to veterans. >> here we go. here we go. here we go. my name is jon stewart. i am giving 20 for the daily show veterans immersion team. here we go. i'm giving 20. i hope you have slow motion capabilities. here we go. you gooit guys have to count me three. >> one two, three, four five six, seven, eight, nine ten, 11 12 13 14 15 16, 17, 18,
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19, 20! >> whew! >> whew. >> i'm falling out. meet meg stewart. i'm calling out young john oliver and i'm calling out my beloved metropolitans. give them 20. >> joining us now is sid goodfriend, the founder and chairman of american corporate partners and don valdez an iraq war veteran and participate in the daily show veteran immersion program. tell us how you found out about the program and how has it worked for you? >> oh i was searching online and i saw an ambiguous posting about an immersion program for veterans.
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and at the time i was working at simon and shuster and i thought -- in a business function and i thought it would be a nice step away from the daily spreadsheets and whatnot. so i -- they said it was geared towards veterans. and i decided to sign up for the program. and you had to write an essay. apparently there were thousands of people that signed up for this program and i happened to be chosen for it. >> sid jon stewart has said this is ready to franchise. please steal our idea. you helped them get this started. how would people steal this idea? >> the veteran immersion program could be used in a wide variety of companies different industries. jon started it for the media industry in part because we didn't have a lot of media mentors in our mentoring program. but it could be used by banks, it could be used by energy companies, big companies, small
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companies, and if they like help, all they have to do is reach out to us and we'll do our best to teach them what jon taught. >> and, don, what was it like in the boot camp in those -- is it classes? is it a classroom environment? how does it work? >> well, it's over several weeks, about five weeks. and the first week you get a whole day at the "daily show" from like 7:30 in the morning to the end of taping and you get to see a whole approach about how the show is actually taped. and in the remaining weeks, you have access to jon's staff and he bricks in executives from different entertainment companies. you get to ask the writers, production the crew questions of anything that caught your interest. and the culminating event was a job fair where the program invited more than 20 companies so that you could either interview with or you could inquire about job opportunities. >> boy, i wish i could have gone
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to that boot camp before i started this show. sid, what is this give them 20 campaign that we saw jon stewart participating in there on the individual joe? >> we launched the program over memorial day. jon's video was played on monday. it's received almost a million views in the last couple of days. al scorszi, the chairman of the j&j launched there are program. what we're trying to do is ask americans to use this period between memorial day and labor day, focusing on july 4th to spend a moment and think about those that serve the country, give them 20. our tag line is to thank them salute them and give them 20. >> sid goodfriend and don valdez, thank you so much. >> lawrence, let me ask you a question before we go. >> we're so out of time. go ahead quickly. >> will you give them 20 for the troops? >> do they have to be consecutive? these push-ups? all right. i've give them close to 20.
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>> they can be sit-ups if you like, but just do your 20. >> we'll give them 20 something. chris hayes is up next. shocking the federal indictment of the former speaker of the house, dennis hastert, over alleged hush money. >> then you have a prosecutor who acts and sounds like she's a political office. >> marilyn mosby under attack as conservatives try to score political points in baltimore. >> she appears to be a problem. >> all this as the officers charged with the death of freddie gray seek a change of venue. plus what happened to surveillance footage from the night chicago police shot and killed a teenager. then the corruption probe into fifa widens as its president speaks out for the first time. >> you can to the allow the reputation of fifa to be dragged through the mud. >> and the republican presidential field gets a little more


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