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science is not a biological science. perhaps mr. santorum should work on his own science cred before taking on the pope. that's all for now. "the ed show" is coming up next. good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show," live from new york. let's get to work! tonight, the president's push on fast track. >> the president needs to step up his game in terms of garnering more support amongst democrats. >> the president has been clear that he'll stand with the democrats who stand with him on this issue. >> if i didn't think this was the right thing to do for working families, i wouldn't be fighting for it. plus boston terror investigation. >> investigators tell nbc news they believe rahim was preparing to attack police in boston within the next few days. radicalized, they say, by isis inspired social media. later, hillary's newest rival. >> lincoln chafee is getting into the race today. >> and announcing the announcement. >> bobby jindal he's going to
make a major announcement in new orleans june 24th. >> we will make our announcement as to our intention. >> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. there is no question about it that this has been the hottest story in the news all the network news this week. i mean, heck, it's only wednesday. "vanity fair's" cover "call me caitlyn." used to be bruce jenner. no doubt a big story. but really let's be honest with one another, how many americans does it really affect? it's almost nauseating the amount of coverage that it's getting. but, of course i have a jaded opinion. because i'm focusing on other things. because at this hour, president obama does not have the votes for fast track in the house. it's like beating the drum that you just don't give up on you know i mean? the president is leaning, and i mean he is leaning on democrats and members of congress just harder than ever before to get their support. now, on monday president obama reportedly called congressman
from connecticut jim heinz, urging him to support fast track. he was the only undecided member of the connecticut delegation. oh i wish i could have been a fly on the wall for that conversation, because you see, the president's making all kinds of promises right now. the president reportedly told the congressman that hey, he has 20 democratic votes lined up for fast track and you know what? you could be number 21. the president needs support from roughly 27 democrats to pass fast track. president obama has also been pushing hard on the congressional black caucus for their support. they carry a big stick in all of this. they represent a lot of urban america, where there are jobs. most of the congressional black caucus is reportedly against fast track, trade promotion authority. that of course, would be right in the president's hand to go do trade agreements. the chairman of the cbc chairman
g.k. butterfield says he's strongly leaning against fast track. i don't know how many other votes he would bring along with him, but that's a big vote. but he has not made a final decision and that is the key and that's why the phone calls are taking place. here are the key undecided players at this hour in the united states house. for the democrats, look at this. nancy pelosi former speaker, still democratic leader. steny hoyer, the minority whip. and james claiborne. i would venture to say you couldn't find three more honest more heartfelt democrats than these three right here. all of these high ranking democrats have not said how they're going to vote on fast track. they want to do right by the president. they want to do right by the party. but wait a minute. it's a little bit different this time. they've got to do right by american workers and this could be a real tough call. the president has been reportedly asking democrats to -- trust me! trust. trust me on fast track and the
tpp. it's the same pitch he's been out making on the road time and time again. >> i've spent six and a half years trying to rescue this economy. six and a half years of trying to revitalize american manufacturing, including rescuing an american auto industry that was on its back and has now fully recovered. so i would not risk any of that. if i thought the trade deals were going to undermine it. if i didn't think that this was the right thing to do for working families i would not be fighting for it. if any agreement undercuts working families, i won't sign it. >> well that is pretty convincing and i suppose that's what the phone calls sound like. politico reports nancy pelosi doesn't want president obama to be embarrassed. is that what this is about? that's what they report. that's not a direct quote. because she doesn't want to see the president embarrassed i guess because of fast track authority, if he doesn't get it it will make him look bad. they report "administration officials have been so impressed by nancy pelosi's approach to
negotiations over fast track, they've started to consider a crazy possibility she could even vote for it herself. but only if she has to whatever that means. does she have to support the president or have to support american workers? it's important to note that nancy pelosi in the past really hasn't liked fast track. she voted against it in 2002 and has expressed serious concerns about fast track and the tpp in the past. this is exactly why she should vote against authority that the president is seeking. meanwhile, organized labor, they're out fighting like they've never fought before. today was a big day. today labor unions around the country stage what they call a call-in day, that they are hoping to place a million phone calls to lawmakers urging them to vote against fast track. earlier today, progressive groups delivered nearly two million signatures on a petition urging congress to stop fast track. so, as we come down to the wire we ask the question really where are we? depends on who you listen to.
but it's the votes. let me tell you one thing, folks. if they had the votes, they'd have taken the vote today. if they'd had the votes last night, they would have taken it last night. if they had the votes tomorrow they'd be scheduling it for tomorrow. democrats need to stand with the supporters that put them in office and stand up to president obama and say i don't care how many times you call me this isn't going to get done. now, there's been a lot of talk about legacy. is that what this is about, legacy? president obama's legacy? i keep dreaming about -- i'm so involved in this story, i keep dreaming about, what is this like? the president says trust me and i thought, you know this is kind of like a courtroom. you know when somebody stands up and says you've got to trust me. wait a minute. you got some facts? i'm going to pretend tonight that i am congressman ed schultz from minnesota. don't worry, column i'm not running. but i live in the seventh
district of minnesota. this is what i would do if i were on the house floor. mr. speaker, i rise tonight in opposition to the transpacific partnership, the authority that the president, of course wants fast tracked, which will lead to a terrible deal. and i want all of my colleagues to know here tonight that there isn't one trade deal that you could pull off your desk where history will be your guide, where you can tell this chamber tonight that it added american jobs. not one. not nafta, not cafta, not the most recent one we've done with south korea. in fact, we've got another trade issue with south korea right now because they're dumping steel on our market and undercutting our markets and in lorraine ohio. now, i don't represent lorraine ohio. but in lorraine ohio they've already been given warn notices. in other words, you can expect layoffs. the dumping of product on american soil and american jobs has cost us thousands and millions of jobs and we sit
here tonight wondering if we trust the president that it's beginning to be okay that everything's going to turn around and these numbers are going to reverse. now, i know the president's making a lot of phone calls to a lot of you. and i know the president might be playing some golf with you. might show up on the campaign trail with you. he really wants this. but this isn't about his legacy. this is about your legacy. it's about my legacy. it's about my constituents. it's about your constituent. president obama, if you look at the calendar is a short-termer right now. and i would venture to say that the honorable leader of this house is a short-termer. we all are. we all got to go home and every two years get elected and we're going to have to stand in front of people and tell them why their jobs are going overseas and why in the world we ever voted for fast track, but yet we keep telling people oh, we're fighting for the middle class. no we're not. democrats fight for the middle class. and if democrats turn and give this president trade promotion authority, we're going to have a real problem down the road
worse than what we've had with any other trade deal because this deal encompasses 40% of the global economy. now, let me tell you what the media is not telling all of you colleagues here in the house. this is for six years. some of you didn't know that. i was stunned to hear that. not trying to diss you. but let's just be in the courtroom and do the facts. that means that there's going to be more trade deals. the media's not talking about the deal that they're trying to cut with china, which is going to be deal number two after tpp. there's been very little conversation about the trade deal that we're going to be doing with the europeans. you know what this is? this is a race to the bottom. this is going to be doing trade deals with countries that have shari'a law. you conservatives, god bless you for being against the tpp and god bless you for being against fast track, because we always hear you saying you don't want anything to do with shari'a law. guess what brunei is in this deal. the president called him a good guy.
speaking of the president, is this about his legacy? no, it's about your legacy. president obama has enough to be remembered on. he can be remembered on health care. he can be remembered on the economy. he can be remembered on the automobile loan program. there's a lot of good stuff. he can be remembered as the most obstructive president in the history of this country. you know what else he's going to be remembered for? turning and going with conservatives who want to do a corporate deal from wall street to do a trade deal that's going to gut your constituents' jobs. so tell me, how are you going to go home, how am i going to go home in the seventh district in minnesota and say gosh, i voted to give the president authority to take your job, because that is exactly what is going to happen. nancy pelosi doesn't want to embarrass the president. that's what's reported in politico. okay. i get that. but you know what? all of us in public life get embarrassed from time to time. the president, the way he's been beat up by the right wing in this country, i think he can
take it. so let's not talk about who's going to be embarrassed and not embarrassed. remember, every single union in this country is against this deal. the very people that put president obama in office in pennsylvania and in ohio they say they don't want this. if the president hadn't had that support, he might not have won those states. the trade deal is for six years. and i feel that the president to all of us here in the chamber, has not made the case. he says trust me. and i like the president. i've had lunch with him a few times. he's a great guy. very personable. very heartfelt. when my wife had cancer president obama wrote a nice beautiful note to my wife wendy. he's a real person. but on this issue, he is wrong. respectfully, he is dead-wrong. and whereas he says "trust me," i have facts. and these are the facts here.
this is what happens when you sign bad trade agreements. and it's just not for a year. how many more times do i have to take this chamber to the chart? for the top 5% in this country, the income since 1967 has skyrocketed. skyrocketed. gone from just over $150,000 to well over $300,000. these are the folks in the front office that make the decisions, but they haven't been sharing the wealth too much. there's been an attack on labor for the last 30 years. the other 20 percenters as we break it up into five categories, let's look at the third 20%, the bottom 20%. this is where american workers are when it comes to wages over all the trade deals that we have done in this country. now, i respectfully ask the president of the united states mr. president, you asked me to trust you. you want my vote. can you guarantee me that fast track and the trade promotion authority that we're going to give you and the deal that you
want to do with tpp and the deal that you want to do with the europeans and the deal that you want to do with china is going to change these lines? i think we all know better than that. and i think we all know what the answer here is. barack obama's going to come and go. hillary clinton's going to come and go. bernie sanders is going to come and go. we might even have another bush. you never know. but guess what. we're always going to have this chart. and if we vote to make sure that all of these nations can attack our bottom line and can attack human rights and not enforce what's going on overseas, this is what we can expect. more of the same. so mr. speaker, i rise here today begging my colleagues to make sure that they do the morally correct thing by making sure that it's about a family legacy. it's about that kitchen table where there's an electrical bill and the cable bill and satellite bill and the cell phone bill and car payment and a truck payment and a house payment. and those workers in lorraine
ohio they've already got a warned notice. they're wondering how they're going to pay all these bills and then they watch the news and they say what the hell, the united states is going to do another trade deal that's going to make it even harder for the industry that i'm in where i can make a dollar. oh, by the way, i'd love to send my kids to college. mr. president, respectfully you're wrong on this. i urge my colleagues in the house to vote no on it. and i urge you to think about your legacy and your constituents' legacy and their family legacy and just imagine what it's going to be like because we're all public servants. and we have to think about the greater good that it's a hell of a lot more than us just getting re-elected and taking the corporate money and doing what we have to do to get re-elected. it's about those people on main street in your hometown. that's what fast track is about this time around.
i asked nancy pelosi and steny hoyer and jim clyburn to vote no on this. to show the president the proper way, that we are democrats, we are liberals we are progressives, we care about the things that made this country great. it was on the back of workers. and you can talk about manufacturing technology being pushed out of the country all you want and high-tech manufacturing. hey, we've got people that can do that. but why in the world would you want somebody from vietnam to do it for 57 cents an hour? we're better than that. i ask you to vote no on fast track. i'd like to turn now to my colleague from california the gentleman from california, who has done amazing work on make it in america. let me point out that there is no make it in america provision in this trade agreement. congressman, good to have you with us tonight. >> mr. speaker, i move that you
give mr. schultz another five minutes. he could not be more correct. he could not be more accurate about what is actually going on here. mr. speaker, i move another five minutes for congressman schultz. ed you did it! >> thank you. i'm bringing you here tonight to the floor, giving up my time because of the work that you've done on make it in america. and i just want you to tell our colleagues, make sure that they know that there is no make it in america provision in this trade agreement, is that correct, sir? >> well it's worse than that mr. schultz. if you take a look at this trade agreement, we have had on the books in america for more than half a century the buy america provision, using our constituents' tax money to buy american made products. incidentally this goes back to george washington and alexander hamilton, where they suggested that you use the purchasing power of the federal government to enhance american businesses but in this trade agreement,
there is a gutting of the buy america. it would give japan, companies located manufacturing facilities in japan the same access to the buy america provisions as that manufacturing company in ohio. it is dead-wrong. it is going to be the american taxpayer money going out. and remember the san francisco oakland bay bridge where chinese steel was used doubled, tripled the cost. and besides that the welds were bad, the steel was bad. no, we want to bring it home. we want those jobs in america. and that's just the beginning of the problems. and you correctly pointed out that this is not just one trade deal. this is not just the transpacific partnership. this happens to be also the european as well as a third negotiation that's under way for services. and that negotiation includes countries like pakistan and you mentioned others. no no. we're not beginning to give the
president or the next president -- because it is a six-year deal. we're not going to give all of this power -- and it is the constitution that gives the power to the congress to negotiate trade deals. not the administration. not the president. not george washington. not george bush. and not barack obama. it is our power, and we should not concede that power. >> congressman, i appreciate your time tonight on "the ed show." back to live action. thank you very much. i appreciate your time sir. thank you. >> hang on there and you keep preaching the gospel here, you're absolutely right. >> you know when we have warn notices being given to american workers, i don't know what's going to wake our elected officials up to realize the seriousness of this. >> ed why would they put into the provisions a trailer bill that would provide what is called trade -- they would give american workers that have lost their jobs a welfare check.
why would they put that in if this was all good for american workers? and by the way, you talk about the auto industry. why did the auto industry have to go to a bifurcated wage scale? >> the automobile industry, the big three have made about $53 billion since 2009. and auto workers have got to go back and negotiate for a lower wage. >> exactly. >> it is absolutely stunning to me. congressman, quickly, the votes. do you think they'll be there? do you think the president will turn enough people on this? what's going to happen? >> i don't think he's going to. i think the kind of information that you just put out on national media will carry the day. there is nothing good for american workers in this proposal. there may be some things for wall street. there may be some things for the high-tech community and their ability to maintain their intellectual property in hollywood. but you go down to middle class, you go down to the rust belt,
you go down to the nine million jobs lost after nafta and try to figure out what's good in the tpp, it's not there. it is not there at all. and for agriculture, hey, it's not going to improve the agricultural scene across the united states. >> that's another chapter. congressman, great to have you with us tonight. i appreciate your time. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question will president obama get the votes he needs for fast track authority in the house? go to pulse.msnbc.com/ed to cast your vote. you can do it throughout the show. we'll bring you the results later on in the program. follow us on facebook. like us on facebook. watch my facebook feature give me a minute. and you can get my video podcast at wegoted.com. coming up new details about a foiled terror attack in boston and another democratic challenger enters the race. former rhode island governor
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the numbers are coming in. here's where we stand. tonight's question will president obama get the votes he needs for fast track authority in the house? oh. as keith jackson would say, oh nelly, we're going down to the wire here! look at this! 59% yes, 51% no. we'll be right back. that's what pushes us to deliver smarter simpler faster sleeker earlier fresher harder farther quicker and yeah even on sundays. what's next? we'll show you.
welcome back to "the ed show." we're learning new details about a possible terror plot in boston. 26-year-old man was killed by police tuesday and another man is under arrest. according to court documents released a short time ago he planned to randomly kill police officers june 2nd or 3rd in. the past hour the man arrested yesterday david wright appeared in court on charges connected to
the plot. nbc's jay gray has the latest. >> reporter: as the terror investigation expands, police and federal agents today searching a home in rhode island. officials in boston are answering questions about the shooting death of 26-year-old usama rahim, who they say charged officers and federal agents with a knife. >> the whole idea is to be as transparent as possible. >> reporter: today calling in muslim and community leaders to view surveillance video of the incident. >> we thank you that you have brought us together. >> reporter: after his brother wrote on social media that rahim was shot in the back while talking to his father on the phone, saying "i can't breathe." >> what the video does reveal to us very clearly is that the individual was not on the cell phone, the individual was not shot in the back. >> reporter: rahim had been under 24-hour surveillance by a joint terrorism task force for weeks. >> when you're following somebody like that you've got somebody under 24-hour
surveillance, it's indicative of the fbi having large concern about what he's involved in. >> reporter: concern that led officers to a second boston neighborhood where they arrested a second suspect, david wright. >> in this particular case, they are absolutely going to look to see who else he was talking to. are there other co-conspirators? >> reporter: it is a growing concern as terror organizations expand their reach on social media. while the fbi expands its security and surveillance operation. >> nbc's jay gray joins us tonight here on "the ed show." this boston police department taking this step to show the community leaders the video, how unprecedented is this and how impactful was it with the community? >> reporter: it's interesting because i thought this was something that had really never been done but they said they've done this on other occasions, brought in other leaders when they had concerns about this. the impact on the community has been huge here. a lot of people were very concerned about how all of this transpired. right here in this parking
lot -- and we're learning right now that rahim actually worked at this cvs for a short time. they were concerned that police shot this man in the back, that there was no attempt on police after seeing the video, community leaders going back into these neighborhoods and saying look we saw what happened, we know that he wasn't shot in the back while on a cell phone. so it was very important. >> jay gray reporting from boston tonight. i appreciate it, jay, thanks so much. always great work. let me bring in steve clemens, msnbc contributor and editor at large for "the atlantic." it seems like we just are chasing terrorists with new techniques. and after what unfolded in the congress this week where does this kind of surveillance leave us? is it a fine line? >> well, of course it's a fine line. but in contrast to the kind of metta data programs that are out there, they had cause, they watched these individuals, they've been under surveillance for some time. and it just shows that the
battlefield is now an electronic and digital one. and you don't have to actually go to a physical battlefield over in syria or iraq to be a danger to american national interests. and i think that we saw the police, the fbi, and the intelligence services that highlighted what these gentlemen were up to allegedly perform exactly right and while that's a lot of money, it's a lot of effort, we're going to see a lot more of this. >> police say rahim may have been radicalized by isis inspired on social media. what's your reaction there? >> i think what we're seeing is a pattern where many young people from a variety of different backgrounds are drawn into these twitter exchanges. they get personal treatment from isis handlers that are handling social media, and they're drawn into what are called dark spaces that are encrypted and difficult, if not impossible for intelligence agencies to get into those rooms. so we're seeing more and more of these young people being
inspired and drawn into stuff that we can't see. and that's a real disconcerting element in all this. >> so did the patriot act stop this guy? >> we don't know exactly under what conditions the warrants or whatnot were put in place to go chase him, but to me my gut says yes, the patriot act probably had a lot to do with this individual and being able to identify the digital markers in the conversations into what he was trying to do that then elevated the need to put 24-hour watch on him. steve clemons with us tonight on "the ed show." thank you so much. >> thank you. >> we're awaiting lincoln chafee's presidential announcement, and the republican field is about to get even more crowded. a look at bobby jindal's 2016 tease. and other teases, ahead. stay with us. time upon a once people approached problems the way same. always start at the starting. and questions the same asking. but that only resulted in improvements small.
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and we are back on "the ed show." former rhode island governor lincoln chafee is announcing his bid for the democratic presidential nomination. let's listen in live. >> i believe that these priorities, education, infrastructure, health care, environmental stewardship, and a strong middle class are americans' priorities. i'm also running for president because we need to be very smart in these volatile times overseas. i'd like to talk about how we found ourselves in the destruckive and expensive chaos in the middle east and north africa. and then offer my views on seeking a peaceful resolution. there were 23 senators who voted against the iraq war in october of 2002. 18 of us are still alive.
and i'm sure every one of us has their own reasons for voting no. i'd like to share my primary three. the first reason is that the long painful chapter of the vietnam era was finally ending. this is my generation. and the very last thing i wanted was any return to the horrific bungling of events into which we put our brave fighting men and women. in fact, we had a precious moment in time where a lasting peace was within our grab. too many senators forgot too quickly about the tragedy of vietnam. the second reason that i voted against the iraq war resolution was that i learned in the first nine months of the bush/cheney administration prior to
september 11 not to trust them. as a candidate, governor bush said many things that were for the campaign only. governing would be a lot different. for example, a campaign staple was i'm a uniter not a divider. he said very clearly that his foreign policy would be humble not arrogant. and he promised to regulate carbon dioxide, a climate change pollutant. these promises were all broken early days of his administration. and sadly, the lies never stopped. this was an administration not to be trusted. my third reason for voting against the war was based on a similar revulsion. many of the cheerleaders for the iraq war in the bush administration had been writing about regime change in iraq and american unilateralism for years. they wrote about it in 1992 defense planning guide.
in the 1996 report to netanyahu. in the 1997 project for new american century. in the 1998 letter to president clinton. a little over a month before the vote on the war back in 2002 i read an article in "the guardian" by brian whittaker. listen to this. "in a televised speech last week president hosni mubarak of egypt predicted devastating consequences for the middle east if iraq is attacked. we fear a state of disorder and chaos may prevail in the region he said. mr. mubarak is an old fashioned kind of arab leader. in the brave new post-september 11 world he doesn't quite get it. what on earth did he expect the pentagon hawks to do when they heard his words of warning? throw up the hands in dismay? gee, thanks, hosni, we never
thought of that. better call the whole thing off right away. they're probably still splitting their sides with laughter in the pentagon. but mr. mubarak and the hawks do agree on one thing. >> former rhode island governor lincoln chafee announcing his run for the presidency as a democrat, when he voted against the war in 2003 he was the only republican to vote no. and it is a generational connection here. from vietnam to iraq the project for new american century going back 20 years. this is his reason for running. let's bring in the professor of politics at occidental college. also matt schlapp, chairman of the american conservative union. caroline lots of history here. can a guy mount a campaign on sins 15, 20 years ago in the eyes of liberals? >> no he's a long shot.
lincoln chafee is this eccentric, but very principled person. he doesn't have high support in rhode island. the thing he's most known for is trying to change christmas tree to holiday tree in the state capitol. but this opens up something interesting for hillary clinton, because if he's not popular and he's polling at 1% it means that he can go after her in a way that the other candidates cannot. so he is the wild card in the democratic side on the primary. >> matt he's already gone after hillary clinton. he said that anybody who voted for the war should not be president of the united states. he's going to be possibly a republican favorite the way he's going to go after clinton. what do you make of it? >> i don't know ed. republicans are still kind of mad at him for leaving us. he's run in every conceivable form you can run. it seems like he does a political calculation on the right party to be a member of when he runs. right now he's going to run as the anti-war guy. i do think for democrats as a
republican looking at that primary process, hillary's clearly the leading candidate, but someone's going to get the energy. there's going to be an alternative to hillary. it looks like from the crowds that it's bernie sanders. if you look at the energy in the crowd at chafee's announcement, it doesn't look too impressive. bernie sanders is really getting crowds, and someone's going to take off. maybe it's martin o'malley, but someone's going to be the alternative. that alternative could actually push hillary to be a better candidate. they also could overtake her. >> well you can't argue caroline, with the academic approach and the headiness of lincoln chafee but he doesn't come across as a guy who's -- actually kind of bland. i don't mean to dismiss him. but he's not the most dynamic guy in the world. but does he offer something to this entire platform? >> i do think he offers something to the platform. just like bernie sanders, he's going to shift it to the left. oddly enough many of his stances are right with clinton or further to the left even though he has for most of his
career been a republican. as a republican he was in favor of a lot of things. and now as a democrat same-sex marriage raising the minimum wage. he was against drilling in alaska. so he's taken some very liberal positions and i think his goal is to really -- especially on foreign policy move further to the center -- i'm sorry, further to if-the-left because he sees her as being in the center and does not accept her apology for going into the iraq war. >> matt i want to ask you a question about senator lindsey graham. he is one of two candidates who have announced that -- is willing to say on climate change that humans have had an effect. how is that going to play in your party? >> it's not going to be very popular. that is a loser in republican primary politics. republicans believe that energy -- american energy ought to be explored and exploited and that energy prices should be kept low. in your monologue, you talked about the working guy. raising energy prices and moving manufacturing jobs overseas does
nothing to help that guy. i think the republicans are going to stand against climate change legislation strongly. >> well you had two people that thought that human behavior had something to do with climate change. one of them is speaking right now. but he left you guys. now an independent. great to have you with us tonight. appreciate your time. still to come, save the date. more republicans tease their 2016 plans. i mean save the date. that's what they're all saying. we're right back. ♪ and i'll never desert you ♪ ♪ i'll stand by you ♪ yeah! yeah. so, that's our loyalty program. you're automatically enrolled. and the longer you stay, the more rewards you get. great. oh! ♪ i'll stand by you ♪ ♪ won't let nobody hurt you ♪ isn't there a simpler way to explain the loyalty program? yes. standing by you from day one. now, that's progressive.
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struggling for relevancy outside the "duck dynasty" fan base. scott walker shed light on his announcement prospects during an interview on fox news. >> we haven't made an announcement yet and won't do it until after our budget is done at the end of this month. we're going to be back in iowa this weekend. we're going to be back with joni ernst and chuck grassley senator grassley at mason city on saturday night. >> got to drive those harleys. walker doesn't have the schedule of someone who is undecided. let's say that. the indicted former governor of texas hinted at getting back in the saddle. rick perry said he has a special announcement to make tomorrow. jeb bush is taking his time. and potentially breaking the law, according to "the new york times." federal law says anyone who raises or spends $5,000 in an effort to become president is a candidate. he or she is subject to disclosure rules. jeb bush has been raking in millions of dollars at
fundraisers but claims he is still testing the waters. bush is really testing the limits of the federal laws as i see it. two watchdog groups filed complaints with the justice department. we'll just have to keep waiting for save the date notice from bush. i want to go back to caroline heldman, matt schlapp, former white house director for george w. bush. matt, you first. you mean the crowd is so filled and there are so many candidates, you got to send out a save the date to get attention. that what is happening here? >> yeah. republicans are acting a whole lot like democrats. we don't have a leading candidate. we don't have a guy is in second place last time leading the field. if i had a dollar to bet, i wouldn't know who to bet on right now. it is a wide open race. i think it's a good thing for us. it's going to be very public. people are going to see these candidates disagree and clash and we're going to come out with
a great nominee. >> the guy who hasn't announced leads in the first primary, first caucus state, and scott walker. what do you make of that? >> scott walker is a hero to republicans and conservatives because he won in a tough state of wisconsin. and as you know we took on a lot of the leading forces on the left in those races. and he is a real hero for having withstood that. the next question for scott walker is how does he execute his campaign plan and can he connect to all these voters in early states. he is in a great position to get the nomination. >> he leads in the poles, caroline, why does he have to rush to announce? >> he is rushing to announce so he can break his way through the clutter. we're seeing the biggest field we've ever seen if all of these candidates run in the history of presidential politics. and the entrance into the race to really be a serious contender is $100 million. so candidates obviously are trying to stretch out that free media as much as they possibly can. scott walker is up with rubio and up with bush right now.
and the three candidates are actually quite divergent. scott walker may be a hero to some. he really went after the working class. i think he'll have a hard time in the general election if he is a republican nominee. >> i've noticed this conversation about jeb bush about raising money and not declaring. how come none of the other republican candidates are working him over about that? >> i don't think that's -- i think that they don't want the bloodbath this early. they're waiting for someone to emerge. and these three candidates are only riding at somewhere between 10 and 13%. 10 until they actually have a front-runner, i don't think they're going to turn much on each other. i do think this will be one of the bloodiest republican battles simply because of the sheer numbers in the race. >> matt, bush legal? >> yes, he is legal. the fact is these other candidates are just jealous because let's face it he is able to raise tremendous amounts of money legally for his superpac before he announces. so you know he will withstand all these legal challenges. he is not doing anything against
the law. and the fact is he will be -- i assume he will make a decision to run soon and all this will be forgotten. >> what about rick perry. he's got legal problems in texas. what is he doing thinking about running for president, matt? >> if you ask him i think he would say the voters deserve another job to see me. he knows he did a terrible job last time when people really thought he would break out and take on mitt romney. he was incredibly wobbly and ill-prepared. he wants to show people he is up for it. by the way, this is america. why shouldn't you run if you want the run. >> what about that caroline? >> as long as you have a million bucks, yeah why shouldn't you run. this is not a contest that is open to everybody. it's a myth that that is the case. i think it's really reflected on the lack of diversity and also racial and gender. i'm talk about every single candidate in the race. every single candidate in the race. so let's not act like this is a job that's open to an average effort americans, because it's not. our system is broken. >> she is the big money
candidate in this race. >> she and jeb bush are the big money candidates in this race. >> and we will leave it there. got to run. caroline heldman, matt schlapp, always good to have you with us. thank you so much. that's "the ed show." "politicsnation" with rempbds al sharpton starts right now. thanks to you for tuning in. tonight on "politicsnation," breaking news from the tamir rice investigation in cleveland. the case handed over to a prosecutor. what happens next? and will there be charges? also chilling new details emerge on the terror suspects in boston. tonight, an alleged beheading plot, and a plan to kill police officers. plus, how the feds tracked them down. and the fight for voting rights across the country. why it could be a central part of the hillary clinton campaign.