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good day. i'm ari melber. the manhunt expanded coming on the air police are refocusing efforts after conducting a week long dragnet search. checkpoints and roadblocks coming down and a reason for that. >> personnel are being redeployed to other areas based on information gathered in the investigation. all available assets continue to be deployed around the clock including kay nan, aviation and tactical assets. >> there's no evidence they're outside the evidence. i cannot rule this out. we won't rule that area out until we have identified a location that they're at. and verified that. >> instead of an intensive grid search of the area immediately east of the prison the search now shifting to what authorities
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call an intelligence-based approach meaning smaller teams responding to leads across the country and canada and mexico. >> efforts not only in this vi syty but throughout the nation and beyond. we won't tip our hand as to where we're looking. i can tell you we're embedded with the fbi, the u.s. marshal service, and other federal agencies. >> so far, a whopping 1,400 leads have come in but no solid evidence has been found since the end of last week. our local affiliate wptz reporting the heavy rains monday and tuesday likely washed away any possible scents and state official tells u.s. authorities they have no real idea where they are right now. period. and that's why today's state police releasing what they call progression photos of what these dangerous men might look like after 12 days on the run. msnbc's adam reiss outside the clinton correctional facility.
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what can you tell us? >> reporter: ari, good afternoon. an official called it an elaborate and creative plan. they'll get creative now. they're moving the perimeter away from the area staying focused on this area but expanding it. take a look behind me. all the checkpoints you used to see here all gone. they're changing the strategy, the focus, they're changing their resources. moving them elsewhere. they're going to look at highways ferry that goes along the lake and look at trains. they're looking everywhere. they say they'll look at canada california. they have 1,400 tips to work through. 600 searchers. but not one solid lead to hang their hat on. here's the sheriff from today's press conference. >> individuals know their property better than we ever could. so take a look at your surroundings. if something doesn't look right, something is out of place, doesn't appear to be appropriate, there's tracks where there shouldn't be please
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notify the local authorities. let them know that information as expeditiously as possible. that's a key to success is keeping everybody motivated and alert and looking. >> reporter: now, 12 days in they say they'll still catch these guys. it's just a matter of time. ari? >> adam reiss reporting for us again. stay with us. i want to bring in alex dunbar a reporter with wstm-tv the affiliate in syracuse new york. alex, look. there's a lot of this story, intrigue. some people are not buying the idea that the escaped convicts murder joyce mitchell's husband right along during their getaway. here's what a former inmate that served with the convicts told you. >> my opinion is that is they're going to tell this woman joyce mitchell anything to get out. but do you think for a minute that they're going to stop and murder her husband?
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when they're on the run? yeah, he's capable of killing somebody. there's no doubt about that. but i don't think he would benefit from that. >> alex given your reporting, what do you think about that skepticism displayed there? do you think the escapees try to contact anyone they know from the period serving time including that person there mulligan? >> well, yeah. john mulligan said he was one of richard matt's best friends serving inside. for him, he said it didn't make sense. he said by the time they broke out, they weren't going to have time to go after and try to kill someone. he said they would be focused on escape and wasn't like some kind of agreement they had made to hold up. this is something they would say in order to get help. and he was very skeptical that anyone was really treating a murder for hire plot seriously. he also didn't think he would be contacted. he said that you know he described richard matt as
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intelligent and said he would be in jeopardy contacting an old friend. >> that's true. the mission is now pivoting to an intelligence-based search. a full-time smaller tactical unit chasing these guys. rather than a dragnet. you know look. i asked someone the other day, how long can the police afford to devote massive resources, a million dollars a day, 800 men and women, to this search? and i was told they're going to go on for as long as it takes. no clearly, they're pulling back. they're pulling back getting creative saying we have to devote fewer resources to this. >> reporter: they're not going to give up on the search until they find them. but we know that they have to treat every tip, every lead as if it's the one. the other day, we were out near a checkpoint and saw a group of ten officers show up all of a sudden. they sent some dogs into the forest. i went over. i said, why are you here?
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they said, we got a tip. probably wasn't anything but they must follow through on each and every one. they have 1,400. how many of those did they work through so far? we don't know. every tip, every lead because, again, it might be the one. >> alex another interesting element here, the clinton county d.a. said they're looking into richard matt's abilities as an artist to see if he might have traded paintings for assistance or maybe even for silence in his escape plan. i know that john mulligan has a he showed to you. did he talk about this necessary culture of bartering within that prison? >> well, he did say there is some bartering and richard matt used to paint cards, greeting cards for other inmates as a way of needed a favor from them it was the skill he had was he could provide them with a greeting card or a painting and his friend said it was possible that richard matt had done portraits for some of the guards, you know, in order to
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get some of the painting supplies he needed because paint is allowed inside clinton correctional and you have to get it in as inmates don't have a lot of money to get the colors and that he was looking for so he said if there's bartering mostly to get paints or to try to, you know win some favor with other inmates. >> adam you were talking a bit earlier about the leads were up to 1,400. that is a lot of leads here and authorities are saying that police are looking into every single one of these leads. help break down what these leads consist of. anyone coming to police saying they think they might know something and ultimately when we're talking about 1,400 who knows how many will ultimately get? at what point does it make the search confusing than it needs to be? >> reporter: they're certainly inundated. they said they have had so many tips and leads, they go door to door. there' vacation homes. they saw two people jump over a fence. they have to follow up that.
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there was two people seen in a taxi cab in philadelphia. that turned out to be a false rumor and had to follow up on that. they must follow up on the leads and if some of them go nowhere, let it be. they have to do it. >> all right. adam alex thank you both for your reporting on this big story. coming up a week of big political announcements making for great late-night fodder. but not everyone's laughing. plus who was behind this major league hack between baseball rivals why'd they do it? espn's andrew brant will be here to get us up to speed. another story, the golden state warriors won a big game last night, golden night. they have a big party in oakland friday. we'll answer the question was belon overrated, toure, or is that not why you're going to oakland? the cycle rolls on wednesday, june 17th, 2015.
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it's been a big week of announcements for 2016 candidates. and that means it's also been a big week for the late-night comedy. consider this the other big event for jeb bush. his opening act on "the tonight show with jimmy fallon." >> i determine that now was the right time to launch my campaign for the republican nomination. >> oh yeah. the governor thought long and hard about joining the gop race. after months of being a total caucus tease, jeb finally made
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up his mind and quit beating around the bush. >> so i know we can fix the problems facing our nation because i've already done it during my eight years in florida. >> from a limp peninsula into a virile member of the u.s. economy. >> everything's bigger. >> that's right. ♪ he went to miami ♪ ♪ now he's gone ♪ ♪ his nickname is the white lebron ♪ >> um that was kind of amazing. but i am sorry, jimmy. jon stewart trumped you. >> it's amazing. america's id is running for president. it's the party of the brain at 3:00 a.m. going let's go take a [ bleep ] in a mailbox. when's going to know? >> a total net worth of $9 billion. not assets. i have the best courses in the world. the convention center on the west side. trump tower. bank of america building in san
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francisco. i just sold an apartment for $15 million to somebody from china. >> hey. $150 million? to a chinese guy? who's better than me? neil young me. boom! >> joining us now is the always funny chief political correspondent for politico john glenn. nice to see you. >> good to see you. >> donald trump, so far he seems to be spending a lot of time using the platform to bash other actually legitimate republican presidential contenders, the crew over at michael jackson"morning joe" scored a big interview that will be on tomorrow morning. let's look at this. >> i think that bush is a nice man. i call him -- he's a man that doesn't want to be doing what he's doing. to be -- i call him the reluctant warrior and warrior is
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probably not a good word but i think bush is an unhappy person. i don't think he has any energy. and i don't see how he can win. in addition to that he's in favor of common core. and he's weak on immigration. >> so glen donald trump is fun for comedians, kind of fun for political journalists and creates a problem for journalists and news organizations because how do you cover this guy? do you treat him as like he's a legitimate contender? he's also clearly ridiculous and seems mostly to want to draw attention to himself and troll the rest of the party. glen, how do you plan on covering donald trump and how does politico plan to cover him? >> i plan to take a 18-month vacation. >> that sounds good. >> he is only in this for three months anyway, right? probably. the luckiest man is in your building. daryl hammond of "saturday night
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live" that does a great impression and bill clinton. this is like a career extender for daryl hammond. but i do think that does raise a question and you know i can't see this guy going the duration and if he doesn't poll enough he won't get on the debate stage and presumably that's what he wants to do. so i think the question here is, how long is this guy going to stay in the race? >> glenn, i read the book to my kids, the cat in the hat. i think everybody's read that book. it's fun to have fun but you have to know how. and, yes, the trumpy thing was fun and fun to make fun of. but then when starts talking about mexican immigrants and calling them rapists and calling them criminals and, you know we have a little bit of that -- i barely want to show it but let's show it. >> when mexico sends its people they're not sending their best. they're not sending you. they're not sending you.
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they're sending people that have lots of problems. and they're bringing those probables with us. they're bringing drugs. they're bringing crime. they're rapists. and some i assume are good people. i would build a great wall. noble builds walls better than me. believe me. i'll build them very inexpensively. i will build a great, great wall on our southern border and i will have mexico pay for that wall. >> i mean glenn, all of that is ridiculous. the number one reason people come here from mexico is family reunifyication and get a job. these are racist ugly and stupid comments and the field should be denouncing them. yet we have silence. >> well, i don't think we will have silence for long, particularly from jeb bush. they're pretending he doesn't exist. you know he is like the drunk uncle at the end of the table on thanksgiving. they just want him to slide slowly off his chair and out of
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sight. you know? so i don't think at this point in time if i were advising jeb bush to tell him to engage donald trump. the question again is when he gets -- this guy gets on a debate stage, you really do have to start addressing the paintoints. when he talks like that it's an open question to look at the employees of hotels and the golf resorts and stuff and i expect an unexpected consequence that trump will have a lot of investigative reporters, my friend at the village voice years ago wrote a devastating investigative report on him. >> running for president is not always so fun. he'll figure that out sooner rather than later. bernie sanders, if you look at recent polling in new hampshire, coming up there. just down 10 points 31% compared to hillary's 41%. you know new hampshire is so interesting, glenn. i spent a lot of time there last
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go around and, you know they don't look at the conversation going on nationally. they don't look at polls. they don't look at anything other than who's in front of them in their living room. if you connect with them give a message that speaks to them excites them which is clear bernie sand erps is doing, according to the poll appearing to men and liberals, of course, but hillary might have a real challenge on her hands here. >> i think she does in new hampshire. the thing impressive to me about bernie sanders is not necessarily what he stands for but advocates his position. he is a dignified andcandidate. he looks a little wild. the only socialist of the 535 members of congress but he comports himself with dignity and has not stooped to personal attacks against her. he's been very measured in his approach. he talks about the issues. i think people are going to really like that. and i think the biggest danger he has,st danger he
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poses to hillary clinton isn't an ideological or policy one. its the fact that he is authentic. bernie sanders is bernie sanders. whatever that is. right? on a debate stage with hillary clinton, he points up some of her drawbacks which is the question of trustworthiness and authenticity. >> while you're giving us analysis, we are looking at live shots of hillary campaigning right now in north charleston south carolina. talking to the crowd. this is some of the larger events that her campaign famous famously said she would switch into. a what do you think of how she's doing and the rather large economic argument she unveiled this weekend? >> i would say long economic argument. you know? i think people were going for the water bottles halfway through the speech. it was a real -- it was a mymy state of the union. i think when's going to be interesting is starting on july 1st going through september she'll give a series of these
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specific policy speeches roughly one a week every ten days and start talking about tough stuff like specific proposals for taxation. specific proposals for how to crack down on wall street. i think that is really going to determine whether or not she's going to be able to stave off this sanders challenge in new hampshire. >> yeah. thank you as always for being with us. we appreciate it. >> take care. we have a weather situation we're following right now. let's take you to the maps. we have new details about the first big atlantic system of the year. bill. it's now a depression but making a sloppy mess throughout east central texas. some people to be counting the rain in feet not inches. moisture from the system moving up through the midwest and eventually into the mid-atlantic and northeast by this weekend. keep with "the cycle" for the latest updates and we'll be right back.
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the fbi and doj investigating the team with the best record in baseball the st. louis cardinals for hacking the internal network of the houston astros to steal player information, scouting information and trade discussions and more. for more on this strange story, we have nbc's craig melvin in st. louis. >> good evening to you from st. louis. the cardinals, not just a baseball team. right now they're the best team in baseball. they have been one of the most storied franchises in the sport since the team started two world series championships since 2006. right now, though they find themselves at the center of a federal investigation. subpoenas have been issued. the fbi saying that someone with this team hacked into the computer system of the houston astros. at this point, it is not clear whether it was an employee or employees. it's also not clear whether top level executives with the cardinals had any knowledge of what was going on. so far, no charges have been
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filed. but at stake here proprietary information apparently on the computer system. including scouting reports, top level discussions, regarding trades as well. if this is true if the allegations prove true it would mark the first case of corporate espionage involving professional sports teams. as you know, baseball no stranger to cheating. performance-enhancing drugs. gambling. sign stealing. we could play this game all day. but this, this would be unprecedented. that's the very latest from here in st. louis. cyclists, back the you. >> thank you for that report craig. there's a new statement from the cardinals chairman and ceo. he says these are serious allegations that don't reflect who we are as an organization. we are committed to getting to the bottom of this matter as soon as possible and if anyone within our organization is determined to be involved in anything inappropriate they will
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be held accountable. this is a serious story. the people allegedly behind the hack could face up to five years in federal prison per offense. but it also seems somehow comical. jeff loonow was an exec until 2011. in 2011 he becomes the gm, general manager, of the astros. did the cardinals execs or some of them log into the astros system by plugging in his old passwords when he was with the cardinals in an attempted vengeance? this is weird. we need andrew bend to make sense of this. andrew, what do you make of this story? >> yeah there does seem to be spite involved as well. if it is true this is cyber hacking. listen. we know, i know from my experience as a football
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executive, how competitive these teams are. they want the special sauce. they want the ingleed cents that make them successful. we have been in the age for probably past 15 years of information, analytics, used to be something in money ball. now it's way past that. and these teams try to get access to every kind of information about players, what they took on a third pitch and the fourth time up. those kind of things and it just seems this guy who was with the cardinals wept away and, again, whether it's spite or whether they think he has this secret sauce they want to get into this alleged hacking puts it at a whole other level than we're used to in sports. >> so are there any indications of how high up this hack might have gone who might have known about it and how would that piece bear on the punishment that the cardinals if they're found to have done this on what that punishment would ultimately be?
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>> yeah i mean, i think you indicate punishment more on the league side. we have been dealing with things like deflate-gate and that's all league. that's the commissioner. now we are talking about fbi getting involved so let's putt this aside. now we have the commissioner of baseball and just like goodell and silver and bettman, the key is integrity. this flies in the face of fair play and integrity. if it goes up the chain, this is huge penalties which i would think would include suspensions and perhaps some kind of on the field penalty. it's hard to imagine what that would be. we'll get to that point. but certainly this is not a good day for baseball. even though it's outside the system right now in the fbi, rob manfried is trying to stay above this. this is against one of the gold standard teams, the cardinals. >> andrew, for people trying to wrap their head around this story, you have worked in the front office before.
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has espionage ever been done like this? and it seems like in this case it appears less about trying to get the competitive advantage and more about making the other team look stupid. >> yeah. there is some of that as well. i'll say this. listen. i was in the nfl when the billy bean book came out. best seller. great book and movie recently. and the feeling around executives in nfl, major league baseball and nba was, not so much, wow, that's cool. what a great story. was why. why would billy beam allow that? why allow access to tell everybody what they're doing? which was kind of new and interesting and kind of avant-garde at the time. here we have a new system not relying on the old-guard scouts who chew tobacco and say they like a player or not. this is analytics, this growing area and now we have a new era of data and teams do not want it
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out there. whatever they're doing behind closed doors in terms of analysis and data gathering, they don't want anyone to know that. so we are in this hyper competitive age and i just think like you said maybe he was in there for a while with the cardinals and they don't like the fact he left. they don't like the fact he took people. they think what he was doing there was going to be on the cusp of something and by the time he left you are right. we have to see how far it goes up the chain. this could be a major insult for the cardinals. >> moneyball is a fantastic book. a must fan for all baseball fans. thank you for your time. and now, the other big sports story. >> the dream season is now complete. the golden state warriors are the 2015 nba champions. their first title in 40 years. >> last night, riley curry's dad steph led them to the championship. steph curry, a beauty of a
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player. a baby faced assassin. dropped 25 points last night. while lebron james surrounded by his injury decimated cavs played with less urgency than you'd expect from a superstar and a critical game. where was the attack mode bron? perhaps tired from carrying a city on his back. sorry, cleveland. but now oakland gets to celebrate breaking the 25-year championship drought. and on friday oaktown hosts a parade for the champs and the mayor said he was always confident the warriors would win. >> as we say in oakland it's hella cool to have the golden state warriors in our state. what an incredible team on and off the court. these individuals are so dignified. they represent this city and their sport so well. they really clearly believe in family and teamwork.
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in two weeks, arnold schwarzenegger returns to the big screen in "terminator genesis." about humanity's fight about machines taking over the world. science fiction aside, advances in technology and automation have many people worried, not about a robot apocalypse but losing their jobs to machines. how real is that threat? how worried should we all be? new addition of "foreign affairs" surveyed experts of the implications of the robotics
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revolution. and as editor gideon rose writes the answers depend on the ability to adapt. welcome. >> good to be here. >> we have covered this topic quite a bit on this show. and the reaction usually when you hear robots is they're all taking over. we are going to lose our jobs. experts say it is possible for humans and robots to co-exist which is great news. >> well there's two big debates. one is how much robots take over everything. some people are skeptical saying the advances and changes not as significant as people think. driverless cars are cool. what's really cool is a car and nothing to a car is more important than from a car to a driverless car. take the optimist case that things are moving forward and changing into a brave new world then the question becomes are we winning or losing more from the world and no question that some people are put out. all the people who drive cars if you have fewer accidents, the people that repair cars are out of a job. on the other hand you get to
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places really quickly and fewer accidents and good thing. will demand and new jobs emerge to fulfill as they always have the spaces left by the jobs that have been taken by technology? that's an interesting, open question. >> i don't know how much time you spend with the bible but if you read genesis we are told that god made man in his image. and it seems that whenever man or woman is playing god, there is this tendency not to make robots as driverless cars and seems less threatening but a lot of humanoid human-like robots and that's what the movies show us and the set of pieces shows the ethics of that and the boundaries and concerns around that. tell us about that. >> it's really interesting. people that do robotics i know want to get away from humanoid robots saying it's not optical. roomba is better than the terminator moving around a dyson
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so the real best robots not necessarily look like an atm didn't look like a bank teller. it's an atm and works well. but for when we have the ability to sort of make robots that not only look like humans but think like humans or work together with humans you start getting interesting things like robo-cop. not robots but a robot-human combination and then if you can improve performance in those kind of ways mechanically then what will happen? the oscar pistorius thing about the legs and running with an enhancement, i think is only like the first story of what's going to be a very very interesting set of stories of what level of human enhancement first of all changes us from human to something else and integrate it into our life. >> society. one of the pieces you say, they say we can't assume human labor forever remain the most important factor of production and time to start discussing what kind of society we should
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construct around a labor light economy. so let's talk about it. what will humans be doing when robots are doing jobs that humans aren't working? >> craig ferguson had a late-night robotic side kicks. i don't know how many years you have left. >> you hit a soft spot. >> it is not hard for a robot to be as funny as toure. >> wow. >> seriously. >> so funny when you talk about robots. really funny. >> it's a really interesting question and the -- the answer is we have to hope there are lots of other jobs and also one of the thing that is robot people, the designers and advocates is the jobs robots are taking are really nasty jobs. coal miners lost out on the other hand. who wants to be a coal miner? black lung disease. >> taxi drivers? we used to have a -- a big man would have three secretaries and now that's all gone. like there are good jobs being taken over. >> the women who were the
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secretaries can be leading full fuller lives, be the boss rather than the secretary or you know be a dancer or just have a life and do whatever they want. it's not clear that the robots replace humans but take the lower jobs we don't want to do. >> change the landscape. >> the problem we're seeing so far, gideon in the amount we have moved in this direction the nasty jobs not replaced but fewer jobs for people. so one of the articles contemplates how do we change the social safety net to accommodate of intermittent work and task-based work we are seeing with companies like uber where that's the norm and so much of the social safety net now tied to expectation to mostly have a job and a career. >> absolutely correct. and it's one of my favorite pieces in the issue because we don't talk about it much. social policy is not something we talk about heavily or
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intelligent intelligently. flex-icurity separating benefits and jobs and dealing with each in their own way and the american political debate is'd out idiotic. take tpp. the coalitions behind them are separate. the democrats went obamacare. the republicans don't. and ideally they're perfect together. the point of becomecare is health insurance regardless of whether or not you have a job or not and allows the labor market and the economy to be efficient. >> yeah. gideon, you are welcome here any time to hit on toure. we always love having you at the table. thank you so much. >> thank you. up next -- >> this was a good segment. up next, what's got a two-time super bowl champion defensive end so worked up he's going on the offensive.
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the likes of which the world has never seen. this is what we do. ♪ that's the value of performance. northrop grumman. all week we're gearing up for a special live program from oakland as part of msnbc's growing hope series. isle be there covering a town hall-style meeting in conjunction with the folks at yes we code as they mentor that city's young work force toward high-tech careers. just 37 minutes away but world's apart in terms of opportunity. as we build up to the main event we look at jobs young people and mentoring and a local nfl star is doing his part. two-time super bowl champ, pro
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bowler and oakland raider defensive end justin tuck is donating $250,000 to provide books and support for literacy programs for bay area kids. the grant is part of tuck's rush for literacy. a program he co-founded with his wife in 2008 and the money goes to a big bay area initiative leading up to the 2016 super bowl which will be played at the new levy's stadium in santa claracla that that that. will you play for the giants? >> tough question. >> why is it important for you and your wife to spend your time and your money helping out the community? >> well, i think it's very important. based on the fact that that who helps us out. i don't have a job. i don't have, you know, i'm not playing football if fans didn't support me in what i do so i think it's important to get out in the community and give back
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to those people that have given so much to me especially our young kids. that's so important, not only you know for them now but just our future. you know? children's literacy isn't a problem for, you know the low income anymore. it's a national problem. it's affecting all of us problem. so you know it is something my wife and i are very passionate about and blessed to have a small say so in trying to combat that. >> nice. >> we had a chance to talk to the mayor of oakland and we'll play more on friday and getting jobs later in life and the tech industry is one example she mentioned. let's take a look at that. >> young people in oakland face challenges that many children face across america. not having enough economic security for their families. having health challenges. and then also not getting the same level of outcomes from
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their schooling. the disparities in for example, third grade literacy rates in oakland are shameful. we need to be doing more from birth to prepare our kids for these very kind of intellectually intensive jobs. >> talk to us about your initiative and then your contribution, of course, to 50 fund which is also tied to the super bowl 50. >> well you know about eight years ago we started tuck's rush for literacy. basically, you know, we felt as though we were very passionate about kids and education. and we felt as though literacy is number one stumbling block to developing a blueprint for a great educational background. and that you know from there, excuse me, from there, we kind of just you know partnered with people and really trying to figure out how can we have an impact and a reason we thought about 50 fund and everything that happens around super bowl and how big that platform is.
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we knew that this would be a part partnership that we felt as though would have a huge impact. the bang for the buck i guess you can say. impact the bang for the buck you could say. and it's important to us. you heard the oakland mayor talk about that third grade point. up until the third grade kids learn to read. beyond that pointed it is about reading to learn. and that's where we lose a lot of kids. if you don't make that benchmark studies have shown you are four times more likely to drop out of high school. so that is a critical point for us. that is something that we are continuing to learn about, continuing to focus on and a lot of that has to do with the summer slide, these initiatives we are partnering with now are going right at that as far as trying to attack it. >> so you are talking about why that is so crucial to get to a point where you have that literacy. the materials of your group you put out points out how do you
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get there, basically. and what are you doing to learn how to read. and points out about 60% of kids in low income households don't even have access to physical books. why is that so important in a period of the digital divide and whose got the new app. you are talking about just getting books in kids hands. >> and we've partnered with first book to combat that while here in new york. and still doing that here. but like you said think about that 60% of the kids in low income areas don't have their own book. >> right. to hold at home in their bedroom. >> right. so they just say lamest terms, you go home three months outlet of school out of summer. these kids aren't even in contact with books. that is -- >> tragic. >> yeah like my mom and dad didn't have a lot growing up. but one thing we did have was books. my mom talked about well we're not going on family vacation.
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but you can go anywhere you want in a book. and as the kid i was engaged in that. and i want the same for kids today. you see all the things happening in the news and obviously you guys see it where this guy or girl our whoever may be and you see tragic accounts of something bad happening. how do you combat that. everybody is like well they need to be educated -- no. education is developing in all different areas not just in school work but in all their lives. >> absolutely right. >> so this is something i feel is critical. >> critical building block. and i understand you issued a challenge, a small thing that anybody out there can do at at #getinthereadzone. >> just basically to get more awareness on the slide. and simple we want people to use the hashtag and send a picture of you reading your kids favorite book with them.
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if they are too small to read themselves, then you read it to them. and they are picking up words. >> and one thick about books, the batteries never die. >> thank you very much. >> be sure to tune in friday when we go to oakland for that special growing hope town hall coverage 3:00 p.m. eastern, noon pacific here on the cycle. squlvp song: rachel platten "fight song" ♪ two million, four hundred thirty-four thousand three hundred eleven people in this city. and only one me. ♪ i'll take those odds. ♪ be unstoppable. the all-new 2015 ford edge. hi, my name is cliff. i'm tom. my name is eric. and i help make beneful.
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the issue is really whether marriage equality should be up
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to state or federal governments. you have states like kentucky that want to keep their marriage bans. >> kentucky. real 21st century state. i could call out their most famous citizen is a fried chicken salesman looks like he should be sipping iced tea at the slave auction but i'm not going to go there. and by there i mean kentucky. that was snl's impression of justice ruth bader ginsburg confidently talking a marriage equality case pending before the court. the decision could come say any day now. a a, leaving it as it is or b, force the 13 states to recognize marriages performed by other states, or c establish as the
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law in all fifty states. no one knows what the court will do. but the real ruth bader ginsburg offered some fascinating analysis this weekend into the overall progress that gay americans have been making in our society. >> when gay people began to stand up and say this is who i am when that happened people looked around. and it was my next door neighbor, of whom i was very fond. my child's best friend. even my child. >> ginsburg is viewed as a champion of both gay rights and racial minorities on the court. and tackled the question why our society has moved towards marriage equality so much faster than many aspect os of racial equality. the beginning in the 1950s and not fully legalized until 1967 and took a total of 40 years to say interracial marriage was
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acceptable. by contrast only about 10 years to say gay marriage is okay and miles per hour americans reached the view before it's fully legalized by the high court. in contrast to race our nation is already integrated when it comes to sexuality. >> this is a we/they picture when it comes to race. but for gay people once we find out that they are people we know and we love and we respected and they are part of us i think that is what accounts for the difference. and it really is when gay people hid who they were there was a kind of discrimination that began to breakdown very rapidly once they no longer hid in a corner or in a closet. >> and her remarks, ginsburg went to argue that the court
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rarely gets too far ahead of public opinion. instead she argues it advances principles within what the public is ready for. so by that standard one could expect a ruling for national marriage equality in the coming days but as always we have to wait to hear if decisionthe decision and what the other 8 judges have to say. that is our show. now with alex wagner starts now. >> congress is voting right now on whether to pull troops out of iraq and syria and republicans are realizing they will need a plan for healthcare if the supreme court rules against the aca. first jeb bush's first trip to iowa has a candidate has not exactly been a big fiesta. it's wednesday june 17th and this is "now".


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