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out hiring that ensures american employers are not hiring illegally, he will not only create a circus, he will be the ring master. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "all in" starts right now. >> tonight -- >> i have great relationship with the mexican people. they love me. i love them. >> donald trump lets loose in a wide ranging interview. >> none of your business. >> and once again, accuse mexico of deliberately sending criminals across the border. their the mexican government forces many bad people into our country. because they're smart. they're smarter than our leaders. >> the former president of mexico will join me to respond. then breaking news as the police chief of baltimore loses his job. plus, bill cosby's supporters seek justice. >> i can explain!
>>" all in" starts right now. >> the result of his comments about undocumented immigrants, the more his political future seem to brighten. the celebrity chef jose says he is out of a deal to open the flagship restaurant adding to a growing list of businesses cutting ties with trump's remarks. a brand new poll today from public policy polling shows trump in first place, first place in north carolina, among gop primary voters. more evidence he is a force to be reckoned with in the republican field. nbc correspondent katy tur got a chance to sit down with him. what follows one of the most bizarre political interviews i've ever seen. >> why are we in new york?
i've been to new hampshire many, many times. i love the people there and we've had tremendous success, tremendous crowds. nobody gets as many standing ovations and i spent a lot of time out. i was in south carolina reasonly and we're all over. i'm going, this weekend i'll be with clint eastwood in california. a tremendous group of people. i'm going to arizona this weekend. i'll be all over the place. >> you were one of the only candidates who didn't campaign during the fourth of july. pretty much all of them were in new hampshire. you were there. no campaigns this week. >> it didn't mean anything. i was actually getting more news coverage than anybody else by far because i'm the one who brought up the whole situation and the whole mess with immigration and what the mexican government is doing to us. so i didn't have to be and i
would have been if they wanted me to. i decided it wasn't necessary. i'm going up next week and i'll be in iowa many times over the next couple of months and new hampshire many, many times. >> let's talk immigration since that's the hot topic. yesterday there was news about your hotel site in d.c. there are a lot of immigrants working on that. >> legal immigrants. >> there are those saying they're not legally here. >> they didn't say that. if you read the article it really doesn't say that. the writer was very surprised that they weren't able to find anybody. we have a very strong system. i have a contractor, one of the biggest in the nation doing it. so far they're doing a very strng verification system. they thought they would fight people. >> they did find people who. they were undocument. >> they certainly didn't write them down and write their names and we're very strong on that. with 11 to 31 million illegal
immigrants in the country it is hard to be in a position where you can't find anybody. that will be a fantastic job. that was sitting there for years, like 30 years, empty, vacant, a disastrous situation. i took it over. we'll have one of the great hotels of the world. we're also very proud of the building and building the practices. >> are you concerned for the people working for you to put these buildings up? one of the workers told the "washington post," do you think that we're hanging out of the eighth floor window and raping or selling drugs? we're risking our lives and our health? these fumes are toxic. do you have a reaction to that? >> no. i was totally misquoted. i could read. i could give you a copy of the speech. i was so misquoted that it is incredible. i'm talking about the mexican government forces many bad people into our country because they're smart. they're smarter than our leaders and their negotiators are far better than what we have. to a degree that you wouldn't believe. they're forcing people into our
country. this guy that kill the wonderful young woman, he was in san francisco. there are drug dealers and criminals of all kinds. we are taking mexico's problems. mexico is beating us on trade and beating us at the border. but mexico doesn't want to take these people. so they send them to our stupid politicians and we have sanctuary cities and all of this nonsense. i've been saying this a long time and it is a disgrace. if i didn't bring it up, you wouldn't even be talking about immigration. >> i've been to the border three or four times. i'm going on arizona this weekend where they want to talk to me because arizona, somebody said i'm the most popular person in arizona because of my stance. >> when was the last time that you were there? >> probably three years ago. >> so if you haven't been there
in three years, how do you know that it is such -- >> i knew it was bad then and it is worse now. it was terrible then and it's worse now. it's worse now than it's ever been. we don't even have a border. people are flowing through like water. >> the murder rate in el paso, texas, right on the border, is the lowest murder rate for any of the big cities in the country. >> don't try to convince me that there is no crime. it is wonderful. the people that are being forced in, and these aren't just mexican people. the people being forced. mexico doesn't want people. we're putting them in our jail and our hospitals and we're paying them money through different sources. it is a disgraceful don't tell me about safety. are you trying on justify safety on the border? >> we have a lower incarceration rate for mexican immigrants and illegal immigrants than u.s.-born. >> it's totally wrong. it sounds good.
>> it is pew research. >> check your number. and by the way, i'm not, i have great relationship with the mexican people. i have many people working for me, you can look at the job in washington. many legal immigrants working. many come from mexico. they love me. i love them. and i'll tell you something. if i get the nomination, i'll win the latino vote. i'm going to create jobs. hillary clinton won't be able to create jobs. neither is jeb bush going to create jobs. i will create jobs and the latinos will have jobs they don't have right now. and i will win that vote. i'll do we are than anybody. i have thousands working for me in different places around the country. i will win that vote. >> why should people believe your numbers when you come out and say they're committing crimes and they're in our jails and murdering us and taking our jobs? a few years ago you led the birther movement. you sent investigators out to hawaii to find out whether or
not obama was not born here. and it turned out tonight be true. >> according to you it's not true. i don't know. >> he released his birth certificate. >> if you believe that, it's fine. it's an old subject. i'm about jobs, i'm about security, i'm with fixing the military, i'm about taking care of our vets. you don't to have bring up old subjects. >> whether he did or not, who knows. a lot of people don't agree with you. i'm about jobs. that's what we have to start talking about. and i'm about beating isis militarily and not acting like a bunch of babies like we're acting do you have a plan for isis? >> i would. i would knock the hell out of oil areas. they're building an hotel in iraq. they're renovating a hole in iraq. they're renovating a hotel in a different location. nothing but money. it is coming out of their ears and it is coming from oil. if you remember, number one, he
said you shouldn't go into iraq any way because you're going to destabilize the middle east and that's what happened. then i said, once you're in, if you're leaving, keep the oil. well, isis has the oil. and iran has the oil. if they would have listened to me, and i was very strong. the bush people, in 2004 sent people to my office didn't want me saying what he was saying. and i'm into the military more than anybody. you have to know when and where to use the military. we made a mistake. we spent $2 trill. wounded warriors all over the place, who i love by the way. we're not even there anymore. and iran is taking over iraq. in fact they're meeting right now. iran is taking over will we got nothing for it. zero. and it is really a sad situation. with isis. you kill them at the head. you take the oil. that's where they're getting their money. if you bomb the hell out of it, you bomb the hell out of it. >> what about civilians? >> i'm talking about oil.
i'm talking about oil areas. i'm not talking about civilian areas. >> civilians are near oil areas. >> give me a break. >> let's say domestically a lot of people are killed by gun violence in this country. what would you do about that in. >> you have a lot of people. i'm a big second amendment person. when the prisoners escaped in new york which was a tragedy in itself. people that were against guns said thank god we have guns. i remember seeing on television a woman saying, i was always fighting with my husband. he wanted guns. he felt so strongly. now we have a gun on emp drawer, every table unless they break into this house. >> what about people who shoot people in. >> they're sick people. they'll be able to get something somewhere. >> are you not more concerned about them than illegal immigrants coming in? >> i'm concerned about everything. i'm concerned about the country. our country is going to hell. i'm concerned about everything flag our country is being beaden
in trade deal. we're being ebeaten militarily. every time we send equipment to our so-called allies, one bullet is shot in the air. we lost 2,300 armor plated humvee. not two or three or seven. we lost 2,300 humvees. that's impossible. how can you lose that many? >> a bullet fires is that theary. they run like band yits and the enhas better equipment than we have because we're foolish. >> you're for the second amendment. do you have a gun in. >> i have the license to have a gun. yes, i do. >> do you own one? >> yes, i do. >> do you use it? gun range? >> that's none of your business. i have a license to have a gun. >> gun control.
>> what are you talking about? >> stronger back ground checks. >> yes, i have a gun and yes, i have a permit to have a gun. >> stronger back ground checks. what about that? is there any steps that you would make it harder to get a gun? >> once you get into that, you start getting into a situation, the slippery slope where all of a sudden you're going to violate the second amendment. i don't want to do anything on violate the second amendment. to me it is very important. >> i want to talk about about this week. >> charles krauthheimer, i never met him. he is a totally overrated guy. he was in favor of the war in iraq. he want to go into iraq and you wanted to stay there forever. so these are overrated people. i see who it is. you can mention name after name. are you going to mention that do like trump.
i went to best school, got the best marks, i went out and made a tremendous fortune. i'll be announcing that in about a week. i have to file my papers. 8 book called the art of the deal. i do the "the apprentice." the art of the deal. then i get called. >> so you will release your financials on time in. >> yeah. i think we'll have it on time. >> eight days from now. >> excuse me. i'm allowed a 45-day extension and another 45-day extension. i don't expect to be using the extensions. on time is really not on time. you're allowed automatically two 45-day extensions. i don't think i'm going to be using them. they're very complicated.
these papers were not meant for me because of the complexity and the bigness of what i have. we should be releasing them ahead of schedule. >> where did you get your money from? >> the old-fashioned way. in real estate. i made a lot of money doing everything i did. i made a lot in real estate, everything i did. i've had great success. >> what about the company that have backed away from you? are you concerned that you'll lose so much business that this isn't worth it? >> let me tell you, if it weren't for immigration, okay? you wonderful even hear the word emdwrags, it is a word. illegal immigration, i brought up the single. your friends said if it wasn't for donald trump, we wonderful be talking about illegal immigration or immigration right now.
then you had the horrible tragedy in san francisco with the young woman who was shot with a person that should have never been here. this is too important. yeah, i'm losing some contracts. who cares in people are weak and want to be politically correct. some of them have already apologized to me. they made a mistake. compared to what i have. my company is a massive company and a very rich company. compared to what i have, it doesn't matter. even if it was a huge amount of money, i would still do this. when people, as an example what these people are running for president. a politician wins, ares, or colon lose anything. the kind of money that i lose on all these deals, a lot of them are blown out of proportion. like they had espn.
espn said, do you know what it was? it was a ballroom evening. that's already replaced. they have nascar left. that was another thing. i guess espn maybe was a little golf tournament. it was a banquet. they make it a tremendous deal. >> the press is very, very dishonest. >> if it is hurting you, why do it in. >> he want to help our country. we owe $18 trillion going up to $21 trillion. once we're $24 trillion, we are greece. i want to make our country great again. we have the potential to have that great spirit that we once had. we don't have it anymore. our country is a mess. >> much more of kate tur's interview. apparently making a lot of sense to a lot of primary voters.
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ask yourself this thought experiment. if donald trump were a democratic mole placed in the republican party to disrupt things, how would his behavior be different? i don't think it would be. >> conservative commentator george will just one of the establishment. in his interview, katy tur, trump fired back. >> george will said you could be a democratic operative. >> george will is another one. he was there years ago. i didn't want to hear him speak and he's never forgiven me for not listening to him speak. i listen to the people. i get the biggest crowds, the biggest standing ovations, and i guess you see it in the poll numbers. maybe i'm wasting my time and it costs me some money in terms of deals. the big money is the opportunity.
while i'm wasting time talking to you which is essentially one sided. that's fine. i could be doing deals on other things. i'm losing out on hundreds of millions of dollars. nobody else lose. when they run for office, they don't lose. a politician doesn't lose. i do lose. but i want to make, to answer the question. i'm running because i want to make our country great again. >> republicans say that you're hurting the party. do you think you're hurting the party? if you divide them so severely, will you be able to get the nomination and become president? >> on fox they say that i did a great service. i'm the one who brought up the whole discussion on immigration and i think i'm helping the party greatly. if you look at mitt romney who was a great disappointment. especially in the last mofl he totally choked. something happened to him but he choked. pure and simple. if you look at him,le of the conservative republicans just stayed home. they didn't want to do anything.
if those people got out and voted, he would have won. he had a lot of republicans and conservative republicans stay home because they weren't energized. let me tell but the latino vote. i will take jobs back from china, from japan where they're making so many cars. millions and millions of cars. what do we get? we send very little to japan by comparison. i'll take jobs back from mexico. mexico will be the car capital of the world the way they're building. ford is now building a $2.5 billion plant. $2.5 billion in mexico. they're going to sell cars in the united states and cars and trucks. how does that help us? tennessee they just lost a plan that was going to be built in tennessee. it went to mexico. so mexico will take care of their people. as i said before, their leaders are smarter than our leaders and
far better. and that will never happen if i'm president. >> you have 17% of the population that is latino. a lot of them say they're very offended by what you're saying was a misquote. or a misunderstanding. do you want to apologize? >> there's nothing to apologize for. there's nothing to apologize for. read my statement myself statement is referring to mexico and they're pushing a lot of bad people into our country and we're taking care of a lot of criminals that shouldn't be in our country. and you saw that the other day in san francisco. we're taking care of these people. when people read my quote, oh. this is something. i made my presidential announcement right here in this building. i made it. everybody gave me great reviews. great, great reviews, some good reviews. it wasn't until a week later that people started criticizing that one statement. and i'm referring to mexico. i have great respect for the country of mexico. i love the mexican people and
their spirit. but the country of mexico is killing us. the country of mexico is taking our jobs, killing us at the border, taking advantage of the fact that we have stupid negotiators. we have very stupid people in our country negotiating for us. and we have leaders that don't know what they're doing. i'm not angry at mexico. i'm angry at our leadership for not putting our right people in to negotiate. >> why wouldn't you keep your manufacturing here? your ties, your suits. why would you not have them made here? >> because china so ma anymore lats the currency that it is very hard to find company that can do business in the united states. you're a billionaire though. why would you not move it here just for having it in america? >> because i'm a businessman. let me tell you something and it is very interesting. you're not bringing anything new. you're acting like you're the great reporter. bla bla bla. every speech i make i say i always hate that i have to have my ties made in china. and do you know why they're made in china?
because china manipulates their currency to such a degree. they just manipulated it again two weeks ago. i never thought i would see it so fast again and again. they're taking our jobs, they're taking our manufacturing, they're destroying us. we're rebuilding china. do you know what they do? they loan us back the money. we oip $1.4 trillion to china them take our jobs, our manufacturing and then they give us money and we have to pay them interest. how do you get that money back? how do you recover from this? >> you take jobs back from china. you take jobs back from japan. saudi arabia makes a billion dollars a day. every time -- if you think these people were after yemen, they're not after yemen. they're after the oil in saudi arabia. you look at that border. this was the country that barack obama said, oh, wow, we had a great victory in yemen. it's all over. great victory.
a week later, it totally blew up in his face. that border is a long board right along saudi arabia. you look at what happens. just like i predicted what was going to happen in iraq and all these other candidates, you look at somebody like jeb bush. it took him five days to give a proper answer on iraq. he was changing his answer every day. how is somebody like that going on negotiate? >> international diplomacy is a delicate thing. you have to watch what you say. how can anybody expect that you'll get into the white house and watch your mouth when you were so widely panned for these mexico comments. how will you hole your tongue and not anger other countries? >> so i will tell you this. i made a lot of money against china. i made a lot of money in all of these countries. i have great relationships with these countries. if you take a look at what is going on in material. relationship with the united
states, everybody hates us. hillary clinton was the worst secretary of state in the history of the united states. hillary was the worst in the history of the united states. there is never been a secretary of state so bad as hillary. the world blew up around us. we lost everything including all relationships. name me one good thing that came out of that administration or her being secretary of state. i have great relationships. if you look at business week magazine, they did a story on the ten things that china most wants. one of the ten things, anything trump. anything trump. and i'm the toughest critic there is on china. people have to respect you what do you think of hillary clinton as the president if she wins the nomination? >> i think she would be a terrible president. she was the worst secretary of state in the history of our nation. why would she be a good president? i think she would be a terrible president. >> she said you're too divisive. the republican party is too
divisive on immigration. >> hillary is week immigration. i may be weak but she's weak. hillary would let everybody coming in. killer, criminals, drug dealers. if you listen to hillary, everybody is going to be flowing through nation. they are sort of now any way. if you listen to hillary, she is so weak on immigration, we will have a crime wave. >> immigration is down. why is this such a big top snik. >> it is a very big topic. look at all the crime being committed. >> the research says the crime does not match what you're saying. the pew research which is independent, said -- >> don't be naive. you're a very naive person. >> the pew research says for immigrants on the whole create -- >> try getting it out. try getting it out. >> i'll get it out. >> i don't know if you're going to put on it television but you don't blank you're talking about. try getting it out. >> immigrants commit less crime.
>> number one, i disagree with it. number two, whether it is true or not. illegal immigrants, i'm talking about illegal immigrants. i'm talking about illegal. i'm legal. you're legal. i'm talking about illegal immigrants are causing tremendous crime. tremendous crime. and nobody wants to talk about it. that's why fox, at least fox. you won't believe this perhaps but at least fox is being honest because they're now talking about it. if i didn't bring up the single a number of weeks ago, we wouldn't be talking about illegal immigration right now. >> if you found out that you had an illegal immigrant working for you and they are a hard worker, how would you treat them? >> i would have to tell them, you have to go back, i think. >> what if they were supporting their family? >> i would probably tell them you have to go back. they're illegal immigrants. i would say you have to go back.
do i like doing that? no. i'm a nice person believe it or not. i have a heart. but i would probably tell them, you have to go back. look. we have anywhere 11 to 31 million. our country doesn't even know, the statistics are from 11 to 31 million illegal immigrants in our country. we don't even know. nobody can tell me the number. it used to be 11 now. they think 31 million. nobody even knows. it is a very sad situation. but you have to create a strong border. if i didn't bring this up. >> who pays for the wall? >> mexico. >> how do you get mexico to pay for it? >> mexico is making a fortune off the united states. i would get them to pay for the wall. believe me they will pay for the wall. >> i don't understand how you would. >> the pundits who say trump can't get them. you have to be able to negotiate. mexico is making a fortune off the united states.
in addition to seconding a lot of people here, forcing, forcing, and i'm talking about their bad people. i love the mexican people. i love their spirit. many work for me right now. i respect mexico. but their leaders and their negotiators are too smart for our leaders and our negotiatorsful? how high would the wall be? >> i will make that wall impenetrable. impenetrable. you don't have to worry about how high it will be and mexico will pay for that wall. >> okay. i appreciate it. >> a great honor. >> okay. >> it's funnel when you -- >> well, fun. it's too bad that she mentions only the negatives. you don't want to mention the positives. >> put the mic back on. i want to know why you think voters like you so much and why you're getting big crowds. your microphone is not on. >> that question i can handle.
you say you're drawing these big crowds and i was there. drew big crowds. >> the way you put it, serving so negative i'm not saying i'm drawing -- you're saying i'm drawing them. >> you're number two. >> well, i'm actually number one in "huffington post" and some others and the new polls haven't even come out yet. >> why are they responding to you so much? because i tell truthful i say what's happening. i made a tremendous fortune. that's the kind of mentality we need in this country. jeb bush will never take us to the promise land. he doesn't have it. hillary will never take us to the promised land. she will be a disaster as a president. jeb will be very poor as a president. no energy. we need somebody who can make great deals with china, with japan, mexico. we need somebody that really understands and cherishes the military. i think i'll be the jobls president. i think i'll be even better in term of the military.
i will create military where nobody will mess around with the united states do you think it is just name recognition? >> no. i think i say things that people agree with. >> more people than maybe we expect to agree with you? or the establishment might expect? >> people like what i say. they agree with what i say. i have had tremendous success. if i didn't have the success, it wouldn't be the same thing. i've had tremendous success. they understand i've had tremendous success and they respect me. i don't need this. i don't need this. what i'm doing this for the country. i want to make america great again. we have a last shot. if we keep going way it's going, america is going to be permanently scarred. >> if you thought we were completely through the looking glass, hold. on we'll keep going further. still ahead, reaction to donald trump's immigration comments from none other than the man who used to run that country.
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we have a response from donald trump's presidential campaign to the interview we just ran concerning an exchange about a washington hotel site reportedly being built in part by undocumented immigrants. >> the home with story was about, they thought they would find people. they did find some people who said they were undocumented. >> they certainly didn't write
them down and write their name. "washington post" story did in fact find that many of the laborers at trump's hotel site said they had crossed the u.s.-mexico border illegally. in a statement, the trump campaign said that a contractor, our contractors are required to have prospective employees produce documentation that establishes identity and employment eligibility. i asked the former president of president to respond to trump's claim that the mexican government is sending people to america.
one of the strangest claims donald trump has been making on immigration is that the mexican government has an active program to she can and then ship mexican criminals and rapists to the u.s. today as we saw in his interview with katy tur, he was at it again. >> i'm talking about the mexican government forces many bad people into our country.
they're smart. they're smarter than our leaders and their negotiators are far better than what we have. to a degree that you wouldn't believe. they're forcing people into our country. this guy that killed the wonderful young woman from san francisco, he went back to mexico. they forced him out. they force people into our country and they are drug dealers and criminals of all kinds. we are taking mexico's problems. >> this afternoon i happened to be talking to the form he mexican president, felipe calderon. the man who was head of the mexican government from 2006 to 2012. and i asked him to responsibility to that claim. >> first, i don't want to talk about this guy, he doesn't deserve any more comment. he is only trying to get votes. and i won't provide him more attention. he doesn't deserve it. i can comment in general on immigration. mexican people are really hard working people everywhere.
probably we cannot understand the prosperity of the united states last century without the mexican worker that came to here. talking about government, let me tell you that providing more opportunities for kids. frinls, we created in my tenure, more than 140 new universities, more than 1100 new high schools. and all of them tuition free. and mexico is grad waiting more than 100,000 engineers a year which is providing an incredible boost in competitiveness and it is opening opportunities for kids. we build modern, almost 2,000 new hospitals in a territory. we provide with health care for almost all the people there. for these reasons, even the recession in the states. the net rate of immigration of mexican workers to u.s. went to zero two years in a row.
2010, 2011, 2012. my first time ever. so on the contrary, mexican government are working really hard in order to provide to the mexican people the opportunities. and i hope that in the future, the only way in which the people, the people will not need to emigrate on their basis of necessity. so i strongly recommend to stay far away from the, they are trying to sit, between countries like france, neighbors, and the only way we can prosper both sides of the border is working together. putting aside all those voices that, because self interests in some cases, vested interests, just trying to separate us from this very important alliance we need to forge.
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30 minutes after we went off the air, the bill cosby statue was indeed taken off the lot of walt disney world. he's been dropped by caa as the world's entertainment of art culture, just starting to reckon with the possibility that this beloved celebrated comic was a serial predator. the question now is whether there will be any legal ramifications, following a judge's release of a 10-year-old deposition which he admitted to getting seven prescriptions for quaaludes in the 1970s for the purpose of using on it women with whom he wanted to have sex. he's never been charged and he's declined to offer further comment in the past few days. but civil suits have been filed against mr. cosby, signed by some of his accusers. joining me now, the attorney for three women who are suing bill cosby. joe, what is the status of the civil lawsuit that you have
filed on behalf of your clients? >> we have, excuse me. pardon my voice. we have filed a civil lawsuit for defamation. mr. cosby has filed a motion to dismiss that case, to have it thrown out of court. and we're waiting for the court's ruling on whether or not the case will continue. >> what are the possible legal avenues to be pursued here? you're seeing conversations about stat stuts of limitations. a prosecutor from pennsylvania looked into the case that spawned this lawsuit. i talked to my colleague and talk about the possibility of reopening it. where do you think this goes legally? >> well, certainly the women that have been called liars have, within the last year or so, have a viable claim within the period within which they can file a lawsuit for defamation. as for the assault claims that happened 30, 40 years ago, i think they would be hard pressed
to assert a claim for sexual assault given this late date. >> this is a key point. there has been, there have been very pointed responses saying that essentially these allegations are fabricated. you're representing women who were essentially called liars. and your lawsuit is specifically about that response. bits the defamation that you say occurred. >> it absolutely is. the women came forward with their allegations against mr. cosby and they were met with statements by mr. cosby through his lawyers and press people. branding them as liars. so if the court allows our case to go forward, the issue will be who is telling the truth? was it the women or mr. cosby. >> so this is key. in englishing defamation, you're saying what will be the rescue before the court. it will be the truth of the case about what happened to the women
that you represent and what bill cosby did or did not do. >> absolutely. you can't determine wlornl they were telling the truth without derrelling whether or not what they say happened, happened. they say they were assaulted, abused by mr. cosby and mr. cosby says, ain't so. i'm not that kind of guy. i didn't do it. they're liars. so now you have one stark contrast to the other. and we'll have a forum, a trial hopefully that will determine who is just telling the truthful. >> finally, one of your clients was mentioned, i believe, in the deposition that was uncovered. not by name. she was redacted. >> i can't talk to you specifically about how my client feels but i can tell that you generally down to the very last woman, they have a failed sense of vindication. a failed sense of joy that this
deposition has come out. and shown that they were telling the truth. >> all right. thank you very much. thank you. good evening. and thanks to you at home for joining us. happy wednesday. happy birthday to the u.s. secret service. secret service turns one of those really good big round numbers today. today the secret service turns 150 years old. apparently to recognize the secret service on the 150th anniversary of its founding, today all the people alive in the united states who used to be president before but who aren't anymore, of whom there are four, those four former living presidents all reportedly recorded videos. videos of thanks and congratulations for the men and women of the secret service on this big anniversary of the