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>> tone deaf, the head of the gop tells donald trump to tone it down. donald trump is pushing back. mr. trump disputes the length of the phone call. trump tweeted, totally false reporting on my call with reince priebus. he said it was largely congratulatory. >> donald trump is dominating the political conversation for four weeks straight. >> if i didn't bring it up you wouldn't be talking about immigration right now. >> tomorrow morning at 10:00 a.m. we will see the confederate flag come down. >> the confederate flag flying on the state capital grounds will be removed. house lawmakers passed a measure with a final vote of 94-20. >> those in favor say aye. those opposed say no. the ayes have it. >> the debate turned in to an argument to remove any state flag containing the confederate flags from the capital. >> i do not want it to become a political football.
it should not. >> the ayes have it. >> i would expect you'll see some conversations in the coming days. tonight it's california versus trump. california state senator isadore hall along with the democratic leader of the senate introduced a resolution saying, "whereas the united states of america was founded on the principles of liberty and justice and these principles enshrined in our declaration of independence, the self evident truth that all persons are created equal and whereas california is home to the largest population of immigrants in the united states whose contributions help to drive this state to be the most economically prosperous in the nation and whereas donald trump recently stated when mexico sends their people they are not sending their best. they are bringing people with lots of bring and they are
bringing drugs, crime, they are rapists. therefore, be it resolved that the senate calls for an end to hate speech and racist rhetoric by all presidential candidates and be it further resolved the senate condemns in the strongest terms possible the racist rhetoric against immigrant families made by presidential candidate donald trump and the senate calls upon the state of california to divest from donald trump, the trump organization and any affiliated entities and be it further resolved that the senate calls upon private businesses and individuals throughout california to end all business ties with donald trump." today donald trump offered his own version of a phone call with reince priebus, the chairman of the republican party in which mr. priebus reportedly told trump to tone down his rhetoric. today trump said it was a congratulatory call.
it wasn't a lecturing type calm he's going to lecture me? give me a break. joining us is california state senator isadore hall sponsoring the anti-trump resolution and the communication director for emily's list. josh barro msnbc contributor and eugene writer political writer for the "washington post." tell us how the resolution came about. >> first of all, california is a place where we allow ourselves to celebrate diversity. a state of inclusiveness. when we heard of donald trump's egregious statements against latinos, immigrants, undocumented immigrants, we took offense to that because we celebrate diversity in california. the largest population of immigrants in the nation reside here in california. so, i decided along with the
state senate was time for california to stand up for our undocumented immigrants and our immigrants to tell donald trump this is not a place, particularly california, let alone the nation where we are going to allow you to stake the stage and speak is racial slurs against folks who have helped to build the fabric of california. our latino immigrants and undocumented immigrants have helped to build the infrastructure of california to what it is now, the leading in the nation. and we will not tolerate or stand for donald trump to disrespect our residents in california, folks that made california what it is today. we introduced a resolution that will do two things. one denounce donald trump for his racist, bigoted comments and all for the divestment of all of the trump empire, the empire of
donald trump in california. we will not participate financially socially or politically with donald trump and his racist behavior. >> senator, the resolution, i read it to be advisory. meaning you are recommending people to stop doing business with donald trump. there's no legal mandate that people stop doing business with trump, which would be unenforceable any way. >> the resolution calls for the divestment. we are seeking a legislation with to make sure any investments in to the trump enterprise or affiliates, if california has the largest pension retirement system in the nation. >> you jean robinson, donald trump runs in to a new surprise every day it seems in how this is effecting his businesses.
>> yeah. he seems to love it. of course here in washington, he's building a hotel, the old post office on pennsylvania avenue an he is running in to tons of problems there. at this point, two of the celebrity chefs who were going to have restaurants in his new luxury hotel have pulled out. including jose andreas, who is probably the biggest chef around washington and most renowned. he said he won't do business with trump after what he has said. >> and trump says he will sue these chefs. i guess we are waiting for when he is going to sue the california state senate. >> i think it is unusual that businesses actually leading the way on this. macy's cut ties first, univision, jose andreas and now to california and i want to see how many other states get in and at what point do we deport trump?
>> you are right. here's what we say. california has led the charge on so many things. we led the charge on banning the confederate flag. we led the charge by providing health care to undocumented immigrants and we will lead the charge to dump trump. california will not stand for vicious attacks. we are trying to heal ourselves from the massacre that happened in south carolina. at a time when we are trying to mend and build the nation back together, here we are a person who's trying to run for the president of the united states further divides this country and california will be the leader in taking action against this. >> i'm confused. do we know that california has any business or financial ties with donald trump? it seems like you are trying to jump on a band wag en here that a lot of people have been getting attention by jumping on donald trump. pointing out he is a moron is not that difficulty. do we know that retirement funds are doing business with him in the first place. >> donald trump has property in
california. he has a golf course. >> he has investments. california is one of the leading -- leading the nation in terms of our portfolio, in terms of pensions and donald trump is invested in that. we will make sure that everything he is invested in california, particularly as a state, that we divest from. we are encouraging all businesses alike to do the same. and take the lead. >> senator, as you know, donald trump approaches all issues by antidote, not by an overall statistical analysis. so for him, his case against the people crossing the border illegally, crossing our southern border has been made in effect by this murder case in san francisco where kate steinle was murdered by a man -- allegedly murdered by a man who illegally
crossed the border and pushed back several times. he says that case proves his point. what's your reaction to that? >> that doesn't prove his point. the bigger issue is this -- regardless of where you are crime is crime. whether you are black, white, latino, undocumented, documented immigrant, crime is crime and you can't take one place to prove a point where you say that latinos and immigrants are thugs an rapists. you can't have that perspective. particular my as a person who is supposed to be articulate as he is. so intelligent and immersed with himself who wants to be the president of the free world. that's not the position of a person who wants to be the president of the free world. certainly not in california where we celebrate diversity. we celebrate the opportunities to acknowledge the contributions of both undocumented and documented immigrants in california.
>> state senator isadore hall, thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> thank you. it is now game on for hillary clinton versus jeb bush in what maybe a preview of the general election campaign. hillary clinton took on jeb bush for saying this -- >> had to rise from lows. people need to work longer hours and through productivity gain more income for their families. that's the only way we will get out of this rut we are in. >> hillary clinton jumped on that, tweeting this, anyone who believes americans aren't working hard enough hasn't met enough american workers. the bush campaign went in to rapid response mode and hit back at hillary clinton with this video. ♪
josh barro, there's our preview of the general election. >> people have been comparing it to the 47% comment. i don't think it is that. first of all, there's an issue of workers who are working part time who would like to go full time. >> to be statistical, the bush campaign is right. there are 6.5 million under employ ed workers. people who would like to work more hours and are not able to. >> i think the right and left would like a stronger economy so that people that would like a full-time job will get one. i would say he set the target of 4% growth that is optimistic. i'd say it is unrealistic. the only way it could come close you would have to have more work done in the united states. that could take the form of more people who don't work because they are retired or students or whatever or the form of people working longer workweeks.
if bush is going to deliver on the thing he said she going to deliver on the economy, people would have to work more hours. >> twitter provided us with the first candidate-to-candidate clash across hillary to jeb. >> i love it is happening over this issue. even if we were to take jeb's argument that he was talking about the problem of under employment, which i don't having watched the interview. it seems he is talking about the economy overall. it is not about productivity. americans are the most productive work force in a developed country except korea. and to see the contrast between the two candidates on this issue it couldn't be clearer. hillary clinton is talking about the need to modernize overtime laws because american workers are going so far beyond the 40-hour workweek without compensated for. that if we have that on one side and another saying that we need to try harder to give the economy a boost, i think this is a great opening sell.
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influential american politician who so far decided not to run for president. "time" magazine cover headline is who's afraid of elizabeth warren? it's the latest magazine in a series of such magazine covers. "the new republic" had elizabeth warren on the cover as hillary's nightmare and "bloomberg markets" had it under the cover be afraid b very afraid. why elizabeth warren makes wall street tremble. "times" elizabeth warren story says, she is haunting hillary and paving the way for bernie sanders. how she will shape the 2016 race." michael, what is the elizabeth warren dynamic in the presidential campaign? >> you have the most of the democratic energy right now on in the trail with bernie sanders, and most of the ideological energy right now in capital hill with elizabeth
warren within the democratic party. at least at the moment, hillary clinton is struggling to get 800 people in new hampshire and bernie sanders, who know one thought was much of a factor in the democratic party could show up in iowa and get 2500 people in some rural sections. the dynamic is the economic shift that's happening in the country over the last decade has shown up in the democratic party with a lot of fury that someone like warren or sanders is channelling at health and power and wall street in a way that hillary clinton has not yet shown she's barely comfortable with. we will find out more on monday when she gives a speech on this. that's the challenge. >> in the "time" tile magazine article, elizabeth warren is quoted and i think it is fair to
say rather bitterly about hillary clinton switching sides and as a senator in 2005 and voting against what elizabeth warren was trying to achieve in bankruptcy protections for the middle class and credit cards. and there's bernie sanders in the article inviting elizabeth warren to endorse him and she's hanging back on that. there seems to be intentions in that triangle from bernie sanders to elizabeth warren to elizabeth warren. >> she signed a letter with every other women democratic senator urging hillary clinton to run for president in the first place. i think a lot of rivalry is on your base of a question why do magazines keep printing who's afraid of elizabeth warren? the magazines are vested in setting up a rivalry. hillary clinton has used a lot of the same language that elizabeth warren has in economic populism for many years. i think we will hear that on monday and a lot of people will say look at hillary clinton adopting elizabeth warren language and that's fine.
>> this isn't a strong man fight. i don't think elizabeth warren is about to endorse bernie sanders. her design is to put as much pressure on hillary clinton as she is on barack obama, to push the policy and personnel to make economic regulatory decision, financial regulatory decisions. the pressure is very real. it doesn't mean -- and i don't suggest in the article she is about to bolt from hillary clinton. i think warren sees hillary as the best possible future. i think she's skeptical if hillary will break the ties she has to wall and economic advisers she really despises. that's where the suspense is. it is where hillary clinton will come down in terms of specific policy over the next several months. when it comes to, that whether or not warren can be trusted to smile intersection next to hillary on the convention stage or not, that question can be answered with how she's been treating the president the last
several months. it's been a hostile relationship. after president obama was supportive of her to get in to the massachusetts state house. i reject the idea this is sort of a strong man we are using to sell magazines. >> the hostility is public. privately apparently no there's none of. that elizabeth warren was at the white house with the rest of the senators and all reports are that she didn't have any kind of confrontation we hear from her publicly when she is talking about the president's position on trade. >> she has issues she wants to push. i happen to agree with her on many of the issues but she wants to push president obama in one direction and, look, there's no real political down side for her to do that. president obama didn't run for anything anymore. he's on his way out. with hillary clinton it is a different matter.
i expect if hillary clinton gets nominated i'd like to see elizabeth warren embracing her. what's the alternative? if the alternative is helping to elect a republican president i don't think that elizabeth warren wants that. i think in terms of her broader appeal to the democratic party coalition, you know, it's a big coalition chin clouds african-americans and latinos and other voters whose voices aren't being heard in this particular debate. let's hear from them. >> i really want -- josh, i want to read this quote because i referred to it as being bitter. i will let you judge if this is bitter. this is elizabeth warren. mike at got the quote from her talking about the situation where hillary clinton changed her mind and ended up doing what wall street wanted on the bankruptcy vote in terms of credit card protection from credit card debt from bankruptcy. elizabeth warren at the end of a ten-year attempt at this and
losing it. here's what she describes to michael shearer. she said they really did shove it down my throat sideways and "they" includes hillary clinton. >> elizabeth warren cares passionately about a subset of important issues. that's probably why she is not running for president. so many people want her to run for president. i think she is focused on this set of economic issues that she thinks she can bring a lot of influence on from the senate. she has already brought a lot of influence from the senate and quite upset she did not get her way on this bankruptcy law. there's a reason she is applying pressure now and i think bernie sanders is a proxy for her, people backing bernie sanders are the people what would have liked elizabeth warren to run for president. once the democratic primaries happen, it will be clear bernie sanders is not an actual threat to hillary clinton. she will run in to a fire wall
in south carolina. there are two parts to the obama coalition you have to put together. one part was the progressive left behind hillary clinton, focused on these economic issues. the other part is people of color, especially black voters and there's no evidence there is a ground swell of support from black voters for bernie sanders or elizabeth warren. they need to move while hillary clinton is spooked because she will not be that spooked in march of next year. >> the idea that all of the democratic enthusiasm is with the 2500 people in iowa for bernie sanders isn't an accurate. >> he is getting crowds of 10,000. >> absolutely. >> he is filling up buildings and no other candidate can do that. >> hillary clinton has just raised a record amount from grassroots donors. she is leading him by 19 points in iowa. the idea that everybody is really excited about the other side of the democratic primary just isn't bourn out by any numbers other than the people
that bernie sanders -- >> no one is saying everybody but we are saying this is a bigger number than we expected to be excited. >> go ahead. >> hillary clinton is a prohibitive favorite and almost certainly barring some unexpected thing here will be the nominee. i don't think that in the debate here. i don't think looking at the polls with bernie or the proxy for the power of this populous feeling within the party. i think fights on capitol hill are the place to look for it. the crowds bernie has been get ing are a place to look at it. hillary has been attracting crowds. the issue set driving democratic voters that affected hillary's rhetoric. her rhetoric is finely tuned to where the democratic electorate is right now and very much speaking. not that she said didn't this in 2006 and 2007, but she is leading with the deck is stacked against you. it's an attack on wealth and power in this country. i think it's very clear that the
party has become maybe as populous as it has been since early in the 20th century. >> michael shearer gets the last word. on his cover story as he should. thank you very much. josh, thank you for joining us tonight. coming up, the battle over the confederate flag moves to washington. am i the only one with a meeting? i've got two. yeah we've gotta go. i gotta say it man this is a nice set-up. too soon. just kidding. nissan sentra. j.d. power's "highest ranked compact car in initial quality." now get 0% financing or a great lease on the nissan sentra. ♪ this is my body of proof. proof of
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this comes more than 50 years after it was first raised at the state capital. 23 days after nine african-american members of mother emanuel church were murdered allegedly by a 21-year-old white supremacist who has been charged with those murders. republican governor nikki haley was surrounded by the families of the emanuel nine when she signed a bill to remove the flag, which was passed by the south carolina legislature late last night. another battle over the confederate flag broke out today in washington in the u.s. house of representatives. >> here we are on a day when the state of south carolina, by an act of legislature and the signature of the governor will be taking down the flag. the house of representatives, the republicans in the house of representatives are voting down any discussion even of battle flags, confederate battle flags in the capitol of the united
states. >> today democrat s and republicans feuded over whether the confederate flag should be allowed on federal grounds. this morning, house speaker john boehner pulled an interior spending bill that would have allowed confederate flags on graves at federal cemeteries. >> listen, we all witnessed the people of charleston and the people of south carolina come together in a respectful way to deal with frankly what was a horrific crime and a difficult issue with the confederate flag. i actually think it is time for some adults here in the congress to actually sit down and have a conversation about how to address this issue. i do not want this to be a political football. >> joining us is isabelle wilkerson, pulitzer prize winning author of "the warmth of other suns." the epic story of america's great migration and eugene robinson, himself a pulitzer prize winner.
isabelle, i'd like to get your reaction to what happened in south carolina today and how this chapter is closing on the south carolina use of the confederate flag. >> well, this is a watershed moment. not just for south carolina an the south but for the entire country. this flag is a symbol of terror and of subjugation, we may be on the verge of bringing a conclusion to the civil war. >> this is where you grew up, south carolina. what were your feelings to see this process completed and in effect as we look back on the last couple of weeks of this legislatively, how quickly and smoothly it was completed. >> remarkable, remarkable. this is a state with an indian-american governor, signing this bill in to law. elected black senator from the
south since reconstruction. it's not the south carolina i grew up in that's for sure. one could have anticipated the sort of rear guard action that was fought in the south carolina house to try to keep the flag there. the intervention by state representative jenny corn, descendent of jefferson davis who emotionally demanded that the house take the action that she knew would be to take and don't tell me anything about heritage. this is for many people a symbol of hate and needs to come down. that was absolutely remarkable. i was stunned and proud of my home state. >> let's listen to state representative jenny horne and what she had to say. >> i cannot believe that we do not have the heart in this body
to do something meaningful, such as take a symbol of hate off these grounds on friday! if any of you vote to amend, you are ensuring that this flag will fly beyond friday, and for the widow of senator pinckney and his two young daughters that would be adding insult to injury! and i will not be a part of it! >> isabelle, that moment occurred when there seemed to be legislative road blocks developing by the way of amendments that at minimum would have delayed this process and possibly stopped the process of getting this flag removed. when she was saying that, there was no reason to be confident we were going to have the outcome we are going to have today. hers became what is now a
collection of passionate statements by republicans in south carolina, including strom thurmond's son, paul thurmond, the senate there who came out and made statements that were clearly from the heart and about south carolina opening its heart on this question. >> it is so powerful to hear from the descendants of the confederacy speaking out and to recognize the history, to come to grips with it. in some ways they can lead their state and country toward a reconciliation and finally confronting the history that we all live with today. it is a chance in some ways for all of this to come full circle for republicans of today to connect with the 19th century republicans. there's an interesting symmetry here that i think is worth noting.
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adopted, have it given some official status. the daughters of the confederacy, always rejected it. and when robert e. lee surrendered, he urged all of his followers to furl this flag. >> gene robinson here on the day south carolina solves its problem with this flag. the house of representatives finds it has a problem with it. what seemed to be a simple amendment going through an interior bill saying the confederate flag won't be allowed on federal grounds basically including federal cemeteries, some republicans tried to reverse that with an amendment, john boehner got worried that about how that was going to turn out so he tried to push the whole thing aside. nancy pelosi thought there is no reason to push it aside. we know what to do with the
confederate flag, just vote it off federal property. here they are now stuck in the house of representatives over something that south carolina legislature found their way through relatively easily. >> right. you know, i guess if you take a long view it shouldn't be a big surprise it's in the best case going to take national republicans a while to catch up with south carolina. which moved rapidly on this issue. i think it has certainly sunk in with john boehner there's a problem here that he's going to have to address. frankly, it's going to take them a while, i think to work through this with members of some of the southern delegations. perhaps not the south carolina delegation but there are other states that still use the flag and that, you know have religion on the question of taking the flag down. >> isabelle, this got
politicized today in a way no one saw coming as recently as yesterday when this thing was moving through the house. one of the issues involved is that the state flag of mississippi contains the confederate flag within it. so there is a question of whether members of the mississippi delegation would be allowed to actually fly their state flags within their capital at their offices as they all do. as every member does. they fly the flags of their states. so that's the biggest complexity right now that's holding it up. >> well, the uncomfortable truth is there are people, outside of south carolina and outside of the south, that have been sympathizers with the values and the assumptions and hierarchies and ideology that undergird this confederate flag. so it is not just a southern or south carolina problem but a national problem. as long as there are people who are identifying with it and have not gotten religion, as you say,
this could be a continuing problem. i'm hopeful that south carolina and its role in the civil war with itself will play an important part in all of this. south carolina was the first state to succeed from the union. south carolina was the first shot where shots were fired in the civil war. i would hope that south carolina would be taking the lead and others would follow. >> let's listen to what mississippi republican steve palazzo said to luke russert today explaining why he is defending the use of the confederate flag in his office. >> to me it's more history. i think there needs to be a rational conversation with both sides on the debate and let's talk about it from a historical perspective and being sensitive to where others have seen it. has been hijacked by some heinous groups and tainted part of history, southern history,
american history, yes. but there needs to be a civil way to have a dialogue and congress dropping amendments to remove our state flag from the halls of congress when we are a sovereign state that's not the way to do it. >> he clearly doesn't know the history of the flag as jim clyburn explained it today. >> no, he doesn't know the history of the flag and he's probably been brought up with this whole, you know, it honors the valor of southern -- that others grew up with. they learn the history in south carolina. there's an accepted history. let's hope others pay attention. >> we will have to leave it there for the night. thank you very much. we'll be right back. better existence. but these birds are suffering. because this better place turned out to have an unreliable cell phone network and the videos on their little bird
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that's huge for my bottom line. what's in your wallet? on saturday, september 26th, beyonce is doing a free concert in central park but you still have to have tickets to attend the concert. we'll explain how to get those concert tickets after chris martin tells you more about the concert. >> i'm chris and i'm here to tell you about a big concert happening in september organized by the wonderful people at global citizen. ♪ we are working with the united nations. ♪ it's going to be an amazing night in central park. ♪
>> young man called ed sheeran will play. ♪ >> one of my favorite groups, pearl jam will be there, who i used to try to sing like when i was a young boy and it didn't work. so i will be excited to see how it is really done. ♪ >> then we have this new young person who i think could be really successful. she is apparently really good. i never heard of her. ♪ who won the world ♪ who won the world ♪ who won the world ♪ girls ♪ >> coldplay will play a couple of songs. so that's the time. ♪ ♪ lights go out ♪
>> you might ask why on earth are you doing this concert in central park for the united nations and global citizen this september? well, they are about to release the development goals for ending poverty around the world and making it an equal fair wonderful place for all of us. global citizen's goal over the next 15 years is promote those u.n. goals. that's it. hope you can make it, watch it, think about it or whatever you want to do. thank you for listening and bye-bye. >> should i do it in german now? >> joining us now hugh evans, ceo of the global community project and the writer and director of "love actually" and richard is the creative director
of the global citizen festival. okay, guys. we're not going to do that in german. let's get that settled to start. hugh, getting tickets to this is not as simple as giving your credit card and getting in. tell us what you have to do to get in. >> you go to global citizen.org and take action in support of an issue you believe in. you start to take actions. >> those are the global goals that we saw that chris was talking about. >> these are the 17 goals that will be announced by the united nations, scheduled on the 25th of september in support of ending extreme poverty, tackling climate change and ensuring and reducing inequality around the world. this is a really historic movement. the way to the festival is you have to earn your way in. >> how do people earn their way in. >> one example. so this week we are starting the first action journey. you have to take eight a actions in sequence.
one is you have to send a tweet to the prime minister of norway, encouraging her to increase norway's investment in to girls education. you can make a phone call to the state department in the u.s. government encouraging them to commit more of their funds to support the least developed countries. >> i have already done both of those things. i'm going to get in. >> the guidance for how you get in is global citizen.org. >> correct. >> richard, i'm so worried about you. you are the creative director of this big concert. you are a film director, film director, you have more power than the president of the united states. you can tell people what to wear. >> yeah. >> every thread of their clothing. >> beyonce is not going to listen. >> that's the thing. i don't know beyonce well or at all but when she shows up if you don't like that color, if you don't like what she is wearing -- let's rehearse that conversation. >> like i don't like the color
of ed sheeran hair i doubt he will do anything about that. my job in particular will be i'm making a series of short films that will talk about how beautiful the planet we live on and why we should protect it and how extraordinary the millennium goals were and why would you stop half way. kennedy didn't say let's go half way to the moon and then turn around. i'm hoping i will make funny, interesting, emotional films and weave these fantastic -- >> in those films show people they can actually do. >> oddly enough, he's on the action side. i'm on the tell everyone side. i think that one of the key things is you can't fight for your rights if you don't know what they are. what we are trying to do because we will sell the tv program to every country in the world and we will do radio and classrooms
and i want everybody in the world to know about these goals. to know there is a plan. we're not living in a pessimistic planet but a planet where things can get better and change and end poverty and end the threat of climate change. i'm on the make a huge amount of noise and he is keen on making the vanguard of that noise. >> one thing i like about the goals, it's not this general thing about poverty. it shows all sorts of basic interactions in life that can be adjusted in some ways fixed that improve our position in rep relation to poverty. >> they all improve the human being. when you are talking about roughly a billion people on this planet still living on less than $1.25 a day. how do you end extreme poverty? it sounds so esoteric. it boils down to a few key things. it is health care, vaccines, immunization, empowerment of women, sanitation.