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the billionaire candidate takes on his republican opponents. and john kerry for the iran deal and for the americans still being held in iran. >> and if you had the right messenger, like if i did it or if i picked somebody that did it that knew about negotiation, not somebody that goes into a bicycle race and breaks his leg at 73 years old, we would have gotten the prisoners back a long time ago. >> this hour reaction to that and a lot more in an exclusive interview with kerry's wing man in the iran negotiations, secretary of energy, ernest mow niece. the fbi and military authorities are about to tell us more about what they learned since the slayings in chattanooga. let's go right to their press conference. >> that can be shared with the public. you will be notified in advance of any releases of upcoming press briefings by the united states attorney's office.
and now i want to turn the mic over to major general paul w. briar, united states marine corps. >> good afternoon. when history records what happened in chattanooga last week, it won't be remembered for the heinous actions of one individual. the legacy of that day is one of valor. a day of american strength. that morning five marines were at our chattanooga recruiting office as part of the marine corps recruiting command, which has over 1500 officers in the united states and its
territories. their response to the attack was immediate. they took cover. they egressed to safety. during the attack one marine was wounded. he has been treated and released. the 131 marines and sailors of battery m 3rd battalion, 14th marines, are part of the fourth marine division whose 17,000 marines and sailors are located in communities across the united states from maine to hawaii. on 16 july 20 marines and two navy corpsmen were at our chattanooga training center inspecting their equipment.
they had recently returned from a field training exercise in california. although i cannot share the specific details about what happened that morning, i can tell you that our marines reacted the way you would expect. rapidly going from room to room they got their fellow marines to safety. once they had gotten to safety some willingly ran back into the fight. all of us can be extremely proud of what our marines did that day. tragically four marines were killed. we are incredibly thankful for the bravery of the responding
police officers. their immediate actions that day saved lives. to the families and friends of our fallen you are in our hearts, our thoughts and our prayers. our first priority is ensuring our families are taken care of in the wake of this tragedy. we are making every effort to help them through this difficult time. the marine corps has assigned teams of marines to support our families in chattanooga and other locations in the united states.
marines and sailors are warriors and we are resilient. that said this is a very difficult and painful time as we cope with the loss of our marines and sailor. we are providing support and resources to help them deal with this tragedy. the outpouring of support from the citizens of chattanooga and the surrounding communities is deeply appreciated. it gives us strength. words cannot express how much it means to those of us who serve you and our nation.
as marines, it is our sacred duty to always remember gunnery sergeant thomas sullivan staff sergeant david wyatt, sergeant carson holmquist, lance corporal squire wells and our navy shipmate petty officer second class randall smith. they have joined the ranks of our heroes who have died in the service of this great nation. they will be missed. but never forgotten. thank you.
>> good afternoon. just six days ago, a senseless act of violence at both the chattanooga recruiting station and the navy operational support center claimed the lives of five members of our department of the navy family. my deepest sympathies romaine with the -- remain with the families of our sailor and our fallen marines, whose lives were taken with these unimaginable acts of violence. the grave impact reaches far and wide. on behalf of navy leadership i would especially like to thank the chattanooga police department under the leadership of chief fletcher. absolutely amazing. and the first responders who reacted and responded that day
with such veracity and determination that they most certainly, most certainly saved lives lives. additionally the leadership from and the coordination amongst the federal, state and local law enforcement agencies to conduct a thorough investigation is comprehensive and reassuring. we are committed to work with our partners in law enforcement represented here as you see on the stage to investigate, review and guard against future vulnerabilities and to safeguard the security of our service members and their families. it is an absolute imperative. throughout our nation's history, sailors and marines have served overseas in harm's way and have experienced the deep and lasting pain of combat loss.
today here at home, we feel that pain. at the same time we are reminded that we serve with and alongside brave and valiant sailors and marines. just like those at the recruiting station and the navy operational support center. who are well trained and they responded courageously under fire. the best our nation has to offer. in the days ahead, our priority will be to take care of the families of those affected. while the tragedy in chattanooga is both devastating and senseless, the healing process is ongoing. we've brought to town a cadre of
chaplains and grief counselors that are here to bolster our service members and their families and to fold into the great efforts that are already being offered. the citizens of chattanooga have been incredibly generous with their thoughts and prayers. which are foundational and continue to make a huge difference during this process of recovery. there is significant interest in the well-being of petty officer smith's family and the families of our fallen marines. and i have had the opportunity to meet with mrs. smith. she is a remarkable woman, and she is resilient. she is extremely appreciative of everyone who has expressed their concern, yet she also asks for
your understanding in respecting her privacy as she goes through this very difficult time. she has faced a horrific tragedy, as have the marine families. i can assure you without a doubt that we are honored and humbled to serve our nation both at home and overseas. and what chattanooga has done to rally during this very difficult time is the epitome of why we serve. god bless america. good afternoon. before i get into the actual briefing concerning the events of that day, i would like to thank the community here in chattanooga for the outpouring of support that we have received
concerning this investigation. the folks have stepped to the plate and performed admirably, supporting us as we do this investigation. i know there are going to be many questions about this tragic event, especially about the shooter and why he did what he did. we have those same questions and are working hard to get those answers. but please keep in mind this is a complex and ongoing investigation and we are still in the early stages of piecing together exactly what happened and why, so we can provide you the most complete and accurate picture. it is very important not to jump to conclusions about what happened, so i would ask that you please be responsible when talking about the case. let us gather the facts we need in order to honor our heroes' ultimate sacrifice. with those caveats, i want to
share some additional information with you about what we believe happened at both crime scenes which will no doubt show how heroic our service members were on july 16th. shortly before 11:00 a.m. on july 16th the shooter drove up to the armed forces recruitment center and fired shots. he did not get out of his vehicle at that time. he then proceeded -- he then proceeded to the amnicola highway site where he crashed through the gate at the naval reserve center. the shooter exited his vehicle armed with an assault rifle, a handgun and numerous magazines of ammunition. a service member from inside the facility observed him and opened fire on him, firing several rounds at him. the shooter then responded by
shooting into the building. the shooter approached the front of the building entered into the facility and then shot the first service member inside the facility. he then made his way throughout the building continuing to shoot at those who he encountered. he then exited the building out of the back of the facility and into the gated motor pool area where he killed two more service members. two service members attempted to provide cover and assist the military personnel getting over the fence and away from the shooter. the shooter continued to fire and killed two additional service members. the shooter then attempted to move inside the compound at which point he was engaged by the chattanooga police department where one cpd officer was wounded. cpd returned fire and neutralized the shooter. the heroic actions of these
service members doubtlessly saved numerous lives. moving forward, we have evidence collected and testing are still ongoing with the fbi along with our law enforcement partners and we will continue to work tirelessly on this investigation. the fbi has been working almost 400 leads and has an estimated 250 fbi personnel on the ground in the area and hundreds more working across the country and around the globe on this investigation. i will leave you with this. there is a lot of reporting out there on what some people believe to be bits and pieces of evidence. whether true or not, we cannot explain what these reports might mean without the full context of the evidence that a thorough investigation provides. let me reassure you that the fbi will conduct a very thorough investigation. again, i would like to thank our law enforcement partners ncis
atf and other agencies involved in this investigation and our community partners as well as the entire community of chattanooga for their continued cooperation and support. at this time we will take a few questions. all questions will be answered by myself so please do not direct questions toward other members of the panel. [ inaudible question ] >> for those of you who didn't hear the question and i will try to paraphrase it and make sure i get it right, reports of mental illness by family members concerning the shooter as well as a possible radical information on the internet that
he may have observed. i'm not going to go into the details as to what we have found on the various pieces of media that we have obtained. again, because it is an ongoing investigation. as far as his mental health we have heard the same reports and we are investigating that to determine whether or not there is any validity to those. >> aaron with cnn. there's been reports that there were some personal or privately owned weapons used in responding to the shooter. can you tell us how many of those were used who used them and were -- did anybody hit the shooter? did anybody hit anyone else? was there any friendly fire incident? >> since he had a microphone i don't think i need to repeat the question. we'll start with the weapons that were recovered inside the facility. we found three weapons inside the facility that we believe or we know belonged to the shooter. one was in the vehicle and two were located on his person.
two additional weapons were recovered at the scene. those weapons belonged to service members and they were -- at least one of the weapons was discharged at the subject. whether he was struck by those individuals is unclear at this time. the autopsy results are still pending. once we get those, we'll be able to make that determination. >> were those officers authorized to have those weapons? >> as far as any authorization of weapons, it's not relevant to our current investigation. that's an investigation that will be conducted separately by the military and i'm sure they will address it at some point when they have completed their investigation. >> i'm going to go ahead and move on to the next so we can share the field here. who's in the ---es. >> miguel almaguer with nbc news. i'm curious if the ballistic reports have come back from the shooting and you know that all of the victims were in fact shot by the gunman and not officers that may have been responding trying to take down the shooter. >> i can tell you -- and the question is, and i'm not sure he
had the mic up high enough for everybody to hear. were ballistic reports returned that would indicate whether or not the victims were hit by friendly fire. all indications are, and we do not have the ballistic reports yet back preliminarily it looks like all victims were killed with the same weapon. yes, ma'am. >> can you tell us anything about abdulazeez trip to jordan and is that part of the investigation? >> the question is can i tell you about the shooter's uncle in jordan and is that part of our ongoing investigation. the fbi will explore every possibility and every relative and associate that he has, no matter where they are located. if his uncle was located in jordan, and i am certain that we will work with the jordanian government to get any information that we possibly
could. >> you've been doing a lot of interviews of friends and family in the two days running up -- or in the time running up to the incident. i was curious what you could share with us from what you found out from those interviews from the family that thought he was at his work job elsewhere when he was really here with a rented mustang. >> the question is can i share anything that the relatives or people that i have interviewed with you. at this point, no. again, i suspect you suspected that answer would be mine. obviously these are -- it's an ongoing investigation. we are extremely -- as we said earlier, we've covered well over -- i forget the number of leads but a significant number of leads. every day more and more leads are generated. we are running full speed. we have close to 700 to 1,000 agents or personnel working on
this full time so again, i can't share the particulars of any statements given to us by witnesses. yes. [ inaudible question ] >> i can tell you -- the question is can i tell you where the weapons were purchased. were they purchased legally and were any of the weapons modified. none of the weapons were modified. as for where the weapons were purchased, we are -- we know where the weapons were purchased and i'm not prepared to discuss any further than that. again, we're pursuing those leads. yes, sir. >> wondering if you could clarify once again where the marines who were slain died -- [ inaudible ] two died inside and two outside?
i wonder if you'd go over that scenario one more time. >> okay. one service member died inside the facility -- or was wounded inside the facility. four service members were killed outside the actual building. so inside the fence. so the four -- four service members were killed inside the motor pool area. one service member was mortally wounded inside the facility. >> they showed two marines slain outside and you're saying four were. >> i'm telling you four service members were slain outside the facility meaning the building itself but inside the fence. one service member was mortally wounded inside of the facility. in the back. >> how close was the shooter in actually gaining access into the building itself? >> as i described the scenario
here, the shooter made entry into the building proceeded to move through the building pursuing the sailors and marines who were attempting to evade him. so he did make entry into the facility. yes, ma'am. >> how far away were cpd officers once the shooter -- [ inaudible ] >> my understanding is that -- where was cpd in relation to where the shooter was when he crashed through the gate. cpd was in pursuit. however, not right on his bumper. they made entry as fast as they could. again, once inside that facility you have to try to locate the shooter, which is difficult because obviously he is moving. so they are moving toward the gunshots. as soon as they encountered him they engaged him. back over here.
>> there are varying reports about whether this individual was a follower of radical islam, whether he was an extremist. in your research and investigations have you found that he was radical and was willing to commit an act of terrorism? >> so the question is has our investigation determined whether or not he was radicalized? >> yes. >> at this point it's too early in the investigation to determine whether or not his -- whether or not he had been radicalized. so we are pursuing that as a possibility, but it is too early in the investigation to determine. yes, ma'am. >> were there still people in the building when the shooter returned and was stopped by cpd? >> i'm sorry, i couldn't hear you. >> were there still people trapped in the building after he came back inside. >> the shooter never re-entered the building. once he exited out of the back he never re-entered.
[ inaudible question ] are you still operating on that principle that he appeared to be a lone wolf self radicalized? >> we obviously -- i'm sorry, and i know i need to repeat the question for folks so that they can hear. the question is was he acting alone or were others acting in concert with him and had he been directed to do so through any affiliation overseas. at this time we're treating him as a homegrown violent extremist. we believe he acted on his own that day. we believe he entered the facility on his own. we do not have any indication that anyone else was assisting him on that day. >> one more question. >> i'll go right back here with i believe the plaid shirt. >> i just wanted to find out how long was the shooter active once he crashed his car into the facility? >> our understanding of the timeline from the time he
crashed the gate until he finished took anywhere from three to five minutes. that will be it, thank you. >> this will be the final press conference we'll have. if we have additional press conferences, we'll notify you by e-mail or through our list. if you have any follow-up questions, some of us will be here to shed some light on things you may need. you will hear from the u.s. attorney's office if there's an additional press conference. there are none planned at this time. thank you all very much, we appreciate it. >> and joining me now is msnbc analyst jim cavanaugh, former atf special in charge and shawn henry, president of crowd strike services and cso and retired assistant director of the fbi. first you, jim cavanaugh. from what you've heard today, what have we learned about this investigation? they're saying that they're treating it right now as a homegrown terrorist. >> well i think the fbi and the partners there have moved it along quite a bit. you've heard the special agent in charge talk about the number of agents and investigators on
the scene. of course he's got the other agencies there as well cpd, ncis, atf, so they have a lot of forces there. they're moving this thing worldwide you can tell by what he's saying. they're piecing it together. they're piecing it together to find out exactly what was in his head when he went in there. they have some indications, but he's cautious not to outline exactly what they think the motive is. we have a lot of indicators the targeting, his associations his prior statements on the web, all that stuff is out. things we can talk about that the special agent in charge can't talk about. that's the way it works in law enforcement. he's got to be more cautious. and we're cautious as well. we don't have the final answer but we certainly see the road map of where this guy was going. the targeting, his prior statements. i would just add this andrea. when he rented that convertible three days before when he was having some money and work problems, i would say this act, this murder spree was already calculated in his mind when he rented that car. it's the act of a person who is
going toward suicide or death. he doesn't care about his money anymore, he doesn't care about anything anymore. he's got a plan and he's going to enact it. he already had the firearms. so i think a few days before he decided what he was going to do. >> and, shawn henry, when we talk about the reports of the uncle, the online research and other inspirational terror videos or sayings that he may have read what do you take from that? >> you know, i agree with jim here. i think ed reinhold, the special agent in charge said a lot of things without crossing the line. this is an ongoing investigation. the fbi will be very thorough and very meticulous. he did talk about jordan and working with the jordanian officials. the fbi has a legal attache in jordan and they have a very close relationship with the jordanians so that will certainly be explored. of course the entire computer
history and any connectivity he may have had including the downloading of the videos i would imagine at this point the bureau has gone through and done forensic images of any devices that they found at his residence when they conducted that search late last week and have gone through that combing for any connectivity both here domestically and internationally. so this will be a long investigation. you know when these things start out, it's really a 100-yard dash and everybody is running full guns. we're now at a point where we're about a week or ten days into this and it's now a long slow jog. cross country if you will and this is going to be ongoing for weeks or months and we'll see some more of this information start to come out, andrea. >> thanks to shawn henry and jim cavanaugh. here in washington all talks or all the talk is about politics as well. the donald trump presidential primary parade is going to arrive at the u.s./mexico border in laredo, texas, tomorrow.
>> i have been invited by the border patrols, and they want to honor me actually. thousands and thousands of them because i'm speaking up. >> donald trump causing indigest 81 among spirits. >> i'm sure the republicans are enjoying his dominance of their primary. >> anything that makes them look less crazy. >> president obama, his final appearance on "the daily show" last night. joining me for our daily fix is nbc senior political editor mark murray washington post national political reporter karen tumulty and jeremy peters. welcome, all. let's talk about the big picture of the trump phenomenon because there are a lot of people fired up. they are angry at washington. they see something in donald trump. he's rhetorically giving them hope for some fight against washington, even if he doesn't
have specifics or answers. >> yeah, the biggest story really isn't donald trump here it's who his supporters are and the message he is starting to have. a lot of it is a very populist message where everybody is -- you're upset at illegal immigration, you're upset at this or that. but taking a step back to the donald trump and his support, it's worth revisiting what happened four years ago. our own poll the people who were leading in april of 2011 it was mitt romney mike huckabee be and oh by the way, donald trump. two months later, michele bachmann was in the top two. >> don't forget sarah palin too. >> herman cain then newt gingrich finally rick santorum. so what was really instructive, none of those people would be the republican nominee but where their support went to was a big story. when we're looking at karen's poll and you see donald trump at 24%, what i'm most fascinated by is where that 24% ends up three months from now, six months from now. >> and in that cycle what we have were super pacs who supported santorum and gingrich
and kept them going. they couldn't have gone past those very first primaries, despite the anger and the support that they had, if they had not had the money, karen, and that was the differentiation. of course he has an unlimited budget. >> and he's also got -- he starts with unlimited select. donald trump is essential low a disturbance in the force. and the question -- in what we are all expecting to be a base election, whoever wins is going to be the person who turns out their people. what republican needs are for all of these people who are angry to nonetheless ultimately get in line and vote for the republican nominee. what is scaring them to death right now is either that donald trump so discourages them that they don't vote for the republican nominee or that he just leaves the whole process and runs as a third party candidate. >> and this is a little bit of how he stirred the crowd in south carolina when he put out lindsey graham's private cell
phone number as well yesterday. >> i got called a jackass by this guy. then i said to myself hey, didn't this guy call me like four years ago? yes. he called me four years ago, three or four years ago, lindsay graham, i didn't know who he was. he gave me his number and i found the card. i wrote the number down. let's try it. 202-[ bleep ] i don't know. maybe it's three or four years ago so maybe it's an old number. i see rick perry the other day and he's so -- you know he's doing very poorly in the polls. he put glasses on so people will think he's smart. and it just doesn't work. you know, people can see through the glasses. >> how long can he keep this up? he's going to be on the stage in cleveland in just a couple of weeks at the first republican debate. his competitors have got to be worried that this is you know an unguided missile. >> that's a great analogy
actually. i think what's unique about donald trump is his -- just how like bombastic and irreverent he can be. what is not unique is the set of characteristics that he has and how those appeal to certain conservative voters. i mean i was talking to a lot of people at these donald trump rallies and one of the things that they kept saying was wouldn't it be fun to watch him debate hillary clinton. and you know who that reminds me of? all of those conservative republicans who ran in 2012 like newt gingrich like herman cain like michele bachmann who they thought were truth tellers. take it to the establishment anti-politicians. and that's where -- >> but they ended up nominating mitt romney. >> exactly. so that's why i think there's a short shelf life to this whole carnival act. >> but mark it is the summertime and, you know people are interested in sharknados and things like that. is this all entertainment and
are people going to get more serious when it comes down to iowa and new hampshire and voting for real? >> that's right. this whole nominating process, it's usually the political scientists always say it's the party decides, not these primary voters who might be searching for someone. but the mitt romney story is a real instructive one. it wasn't that mitt romney went as the mitt romney we've always known during that republican primary season it's the guy that adopted a very conservative tax plan, almost modeled in some ways off the herman cain 999 plan. forced mitt romney to come up with his own very conservative tax plan. mitt romney in february of 2012 announced that cpac i am severely conservative. that's when he was running against rick santorum. so these things aren't always in a vacuum. the eventual nominee is probably going to be the one who smartly somehow channels some of this anger to be able to get to win those contests in iowa and new hampshire. >> and don't forget self-deportation which may have been the reason that mitt romney lost the state of florida by less than 1 percentage point.
>> one of the things we need to wait to see shake out is what the republican party does to pressure trump. if he's talking about running as a third-party candidate, they would have every right to say to him you don't belong in our debates and i'll bet you that's what's going to happen if he continues to talk the way he does and hint at a third-party run. >> let's talk about hillary clinton, because it's not only the republicans who are not getting any attention, the other republicans, while trump is occupying all of this space, but hillary clinton and the democrats running on the other side. and in the latest quinnipiac polls, mark she's not doing that well in matchups against some of the other leading republican contenders. >> it's not just the matchups it's actually her favorable/unfavorable ratings. in the states of colorado and iowa her unfav is a net 20. it is very early right now and the problem that hillary clinton has is the overall front runner in this contest is any time there are polls that come out that show aha, there's a weakness here you're not doing well, get a lot more attention
than the ones that have her in the lead. there was a national poll that had her leading jeb bush by six points, 50-44%. that doesn't get as much coverage as the ones that show her doing -- >> what do you think about these new quinnipiacs? >> usually the rule of enthusiasm is that the battleground states the colorados, the iowas, the virginias, match up very well with the national polls because, after all, they're battleground states for a reason. they're kind of almost the average of where everything is. so normally those conform. this time it doesn't. so one has to be the outlier here. we don't know yet, but i think the bigger story is we're still 15 months away from the election day. we've got our primary nominating fights first. then we'll get to those battleground matchups. >> karen, at this stage does clinton have to change her strategy to get more attention or should she keep going further, going along, talking about the economy, talking about issues, trying to thread the needle between the bernie sanders and what she presumes will be the republican general
election matchup? >> well she's got a little bit of tension with her own base. right now what we're seeing is her working on that. how she is talking about income inequality, how she is talking about issues of -- >> because there's no passion, exempt among women's groups and others who have long wanted hillary clinton to be the nominee. >> but as a general election proposition, for her the longer this trump thing goes on the better. >> because clearly it is dividing the republicans, jeremy, and creating so much angst among those who can't even get on the stage. here john kasich we haven't discussed yet, one of the most credentialed republicans now declaring, a long-time house budget chair, came up with the balanced budget, worked with democrats, worked across the aisle but has conservative credentials, two elections as the governor of ohio and popular in ohio. 60% favorability and a state
that republicans cannot win a national election without winning ohio. >> and he may be left out of the debate in his own state and that would be i think, a huge indignity. we haven't seen how the other networks will structure their debates. i think after the first two, the fox and the cnn, there's going to be a real rethinking going on of exactly who qualifies and how many people should be on that stage. >> and having two tiers perhaps. >> yes. >> jeremy peters mark murray karen tumulty, it's great to see you. the next gay rights battles coming up on capitol hill. and later, our exclusive interview with john kerry's right-hand man at the iran nuclear talks, secretary of energy ernest moniz will be here.
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be introduced in congress to extend all of the protection of the 1964 civil rights act to gay americans. but on the opposite side of the debate there's already legislation introduced that would make it easier for people to discriminate against gays claiming religious or moral beliefs. joining me now is chad griffin, president of the human rights campaign one of the litigants in the major supreme court victory for your side. >> huge victory, huge victory. it never ends the fights continue. what do you face now in congress? how important is it for you to try to get this legislation through even though you've got republican control of congress and it's unclear what the civil rights victory to be. >> it's vitally important, andrea. that's because while marriage equality was a massive and monumental victory, this fact remains true today. in the majority of states in the country today, a couple who gets married at 10:00 a.m. risks
being fired from their jobs by noon or evicted from their homes by 2:00 simply for posting that wedding photo on facebook. so it's time that we bring the explicit and comprehensive nondiscrimination protections to all lgbt people in this country, regardless of where one lives, and that's exactly what this bill does. >> what is the outlook in congress, though where you've had support in the past but getting this legislation through in an election year is going to be tough? >> there's no question. it will be one of the biggest lists we've ever had in the history of our movement. but at the end of the day i'm optimistic. tomorrow is just the introduction. it is the beginning of a process of building that broad-based coalition of republicans and democrats, of business leaders, of religion and faith leaders. at the end of the day this is a bill that will pass. it's going to take time. it's going to take a lot of work. but it's the law and the protection that are needed. at the end of the day i believe that we're going to see it happen. >> what about the competing
legislation which says that as a matter of religion or morality people can opt out, basically making it easier to discriminate against lgbt people. >> i think what you see is our opponents have not gone away. they have regrouped and tried to come up with other reasons to oppose protection for lgbt people. what they are doing today is attempting to use religion as justification to discriminate. but it's important to remember we already have federal religious protection. we already have the first amendment. it's a bedrock principle of this government. that's actually the first of the amendments. so those protection exist for religious institutions. but we're also founded on the principle of free enterprise and that means that all paying customers should be served equally and not discriminated against or refused service simply because of who they are or whom they love. that is happening, you are seeing this in congress and a number of state legislatures but the american public is smart. they're reading through this.
and business leaders are standing up to oppose this kind of discrimination. so i'm optimistic we'll have our work cut out for us. i believe that we can defeat these hateful attempts to undermine rights for lgbt folks and that ultimately we'll get the protection we need. it's going to take a lot of work, though. >> and the fight continues. >> indeed it does. >> chad griffin, thank you so much. >> thank you. and the sales team how the administration plans to sell the iran deal on the hill. an exclusive interview with the energy secretary, ernest moniz, coming up next. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. ♪ ♪ (vo) making the most out of every mile. that's why i got a subaru impreza. love. it's what makes a subaru a subaru. i am totally blind.
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iran for example, we put those sanctions in and methodically built pressure on iran over the course of four or five years to get them to the table to then negotiate. and because of the great work of our team and john kerry and secretary ernie moniz, it happened to be an m.i.t. physicist and knew a little something more than i did.
>> sure. he explained a lot of the intricacies of the nuclear deal. >> so it finally comes to fruition but it represents a lot of work. >> president obama on "the daily show," his last appearance on the show with jon stewart talking about the mvp of the iran negotiations the energy secretary, ernie moniz. secretary moniz and secretary kerry are heading to capitol hill in a short time from now to start classified briefings for members of the house and senate. before he goes he's here secretary moniz. i know you have barely caught up from vienna but what can you tell to members of congress who are complaining that first of all, senator cotton and others are complaining that there are secret deals between the iaea and iran that will not even be known to the u.s. and will not be briefed to congress and why are there these side deals? >> well first of all, there are no secret deals. this is the iaea performing its
usual function with any country it's about to inspect. of course they have a reputation to defend in terms of making sure they are thorough that the process has integrity. but they are the ones who negotiate the parameters the road map as to how they will carry out the inspections. the key is that we have gained them the access to carry out their inspections. in fact on a pretty short timeline. iran has to perform by october 15th. >> but do you and secretary kerry, will the u.s. congress know what those parameters are? what the iaea is getting, what level of access and what demands iran has made and won, perhaps, from the iaea? >> certainly, of course the iaea will prepare a report that will be provided to the united states and other members of the board. >> after the fact. >> after they have done their analysis. which builds upon of course previous years of analysis. now, clearly, the p5+1 i do want to remind everyone it's a
p5+1 negotiation. >> it's a global negotiation. >> global negotiation with iran. and the director general, of course talked with the p5+1 in vienna in terms of their general approach. >> the ayatollah and others in iran but importantly the supreme leader have given all sorts of different signals, concerning signals, even secretary kerry acknowledged that. do you have concerns that the leadership of iran is not fully committed to what was agreed to in vienna? >> well, i think the proof will be in the pudding. of course we have a long way to go yet until what's called implementation day, which is the day when the iaea certifies that iran has taken all the steps required. that will include the inspection for previous military work that you just alluded to. many other things removing their uranium stockpile and the like centrifuges, infrastructure. that i predict will be in 2016.
up to then we will see if they perform, and that requires everyone in iran in the appropriate positions performing. >> what do you say to the senior -- >> no sanctions otherwise, i should say. >> what do you say about people that say the problem with this deal is contrary to what the president says repeatedly, that this stops every pathway to a bomb that after ten years, after the deal is over and some restrictions are lifted and they can start having these advanced centrifuges it doesn't stop, it will accelerate the pathway to a bomb. >> well, the argument that it accelerates the pathway is very hard to understand since the program in all its dimensions is rolled back. so at any time in the future certainly the program presumably will have been rolled back on a decadal time scale from where it would be. secondly i would emphasize that from day one until essentially forever we will be better off in terms of understanding any potential iranian nuclear
weapons program with the agreement than without it because even in the very long term, past 25 years, we still have their commitment to begin the additional protocol which provides additional access for international inspectors. >> what about the fact that this nuclear agreement was negotiated without getting anything in return on our american prisoners, those missing or believed detained. jason rezaian now a year reporter for "the washington post," a year in an iranian prison without any acknowledgement or agreement that he should be released? >> clearly we are all obviously very concerned about the detained americans and the missing american as well. and i can say secretary kerry raised this at every opportunity, including, by the way, at the time of the closing ceremony at the agreement, he took mr. zarif aside and focused on this question of the americans being held.
i do want to remind everyone that this was a p5+1. again, it was a six-nation negotiation with iran but certainly secretary kerry, the president, our government will continue to pull out all the stops to try to get our americans back home. >> ernest moniz, thanks so much for being with us. good luck going forward. thank you and that does it for us, this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow the show online facebook and twitter. "msnbc live" is up next. ding the way on tax cuts. we cut the rates on personal income taxes. we enacted the lowest corporate tax rate since 1968. we eliminated the income tax on manufacturers altogether. with startup-ny, qualified businesses that start, expand or relocate to new york state pay no taxes for 10 years. all to grow our economy and create jobs. see how new york can give your business the opportunity to grow at ny.gov/business
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confrontation between the two escalating when the trooper asks her to get out of her car. >> get out of the car! i will light you up. get out! now! >> wow. wow. >> get out of the car! >> bland died just three days later in her jail cell. police say due to suicide. bland's family claims she never would have killed herself. msnbc got a tour of that cell tuesday, but that dash cam video sparking new questions, particularly whether it was edited by authorities. we begin our coverage with msnbc's adam reese live from hemp stead, texas. adam, what are texas officials saying about the allegations that the video was in fact edited? >> reporter: i'm in the department of public safety says they're investigating that. they're going to make a new copy and release that today. they say the fbi has been involved in that process. now, the video is 52 minutes long. it starts off with the trooper pulling over a student on the