tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC July 30, 2015 1:00am-2:01am PDT
the rachel maddow show starts right now. >> good evening. thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. the word madagascar to americans is almost a synonym for far away. for far away and remote and hard to get to. madagascar is a big country. a big island. the fourth largest island in the world. but especially from our perspective, but really from anywhere, it is hard to get there. it is really far out into the ocean. you have to go 250 miles off the southeast coast of africa in order to get to madagascar. it is just one of those places on earth that is remote. it is far out there. but once you are at madagascar, you have to go another 600 miles out into the ocean. out into the indian ocean before you get to a place called reunion island. la reunion. they is that french there.
i won't try to speak with a french island but you can call it reunion island. by all accounts, it is spectacularly beautiful. some of the most spectacular and dramatic scenery on earth, known particularly for its water falls and its mountain jungle scene rifrl it is just gorgeous. but reunion island is alone out there in the sea. in the middle of the indian ocean. it is way out there on its own. today on reunion island, they were doing a beach clean-up of some size on the island. just cleaning up debris and trash on one of the nice beaches. and as part of that beach clean-up, they think they found part of the wing of a large airliner washed ashore. and reunion island is more than 4,000 miles away from the last location of the plane you are thinking about right now. it is more than 4,000 miles away from the last nope location of the missing 777 that went down almost a year and a half ago
without a trace that malaysia airlines flight with 239 people on board, that was more than 4,000 miles away. from the site where this wing washed up today. if this wing is from that plane, this will be the first of any kind as to what happened to the most mysterious air crash of our time. this piece they found, they say it is about nine or ten feet long. it appears to have been in the water for a long time them say it is encrusted with sea shells. now they need to final out what it is. quite obviously, from a layman's eye. it is not from a large plane. if it does turn out to be a part from a boeing 777, it seems very likely that it will prove to then be from malaysia flight 370. there just aren't other lost aircraft of that kind, of that size other, than the one that disappeared on march 8 last year. it disbaerd an hour artist took off from kuala lumpur on its way to beijing. electronic transmissions showed it left the route it was expected to take.
for some reason it headed south over the indian ocean. there is no explanation of why that happened. but after that turn, flight 370 disappeared. transmissions from the flight indicated the u-turn had been programmed into the on board computer. 12 minutes before the pilots called in good night to the air traffic controllers. >> that would further indicate the u-turn was planned and executed in the cockpit before the controllers lost contact. that means the u-turn was premeditated. programmed before it went down and executed only after the last radio call and after the transponders went dead. if the pilot entered that turn, why? >> why? that was the nightly news report from tom costello from last year. that was ten days after flight 370 disappeared. with so many people on board, with no satisfaction explanation for what happened or why,
everybody has figured all along from the moment it was first lost, everybody has figured that the wreckage of the plane would explain it. that when we found the wreckage of the plane, that would be our best home. our only hope of understanding what happened here. a lot of countries join in the hunt for the wreckage including the u.s. they searched for flight 370 with planes and shipments. they searched for it with robotic submersible that's are capable of combing the sea beds for any signs of the lost plane. because of the electronic signal that's continued after the pilot said good night, because of what the track was, the search effort has focused here. you see on the screen. the big vast stretches of very, very deem water off the coast of australia. they've been dragging six-mile long cables, equipped with sonar sensors through 13,000 foot deep uncharted swaths of ocean. this incredibly difficult search.
and it has gone on now for a year and five months. and they haven't found it. they haven't found it. any of it all this time. the lack of any physical evidence from that time has been a particularly cruel human misery for the families of the passengers. in material days of the search, they had on contend with contradictory reports from malaysian authorities about what exactly the plane did and which turns it made and when and whether the pilot and the co-pilot were being investigated. and the families waited through early reports fuel slicks, and reports of debris that turned out to have nothing to do with that lost boeing 777. at one point, all the excitement turned out to be a bunch of logs that had been lashed together. another time what they found was just the lid of a large box. so with that having happened over the course of this last year, year and a half since something went down, there is a real sense activity about this new find.
there's real sense activity about this being another red herring. the people who have the most emotional stake in this cannot possibly stand another piece of false hope. but with that said, this does seem different tonight. because authorities believe they may have found at least part of a very large plane. again, this is not near australia. which is where they have been focusing their efforts. this is across the indian ocean at reunion island off the coast of madagascar. more than 4,000 miles from the last known flight of 370. sources tell nbc news that boeing investigators have looked at pictures of the debris on reunion island and they say they believe that debris is from a boeing 777. there is only one boeing 777 missing in the world. and it is that one. that malaysia airlines flight that took off in march from kuala lumpur. no one is saying in fact this is from flight 370.
if this first clue of any kind in more than a year holds up, then the mystery of flight 370, one of the greatest air mysteries of all time, if this holds up, then that mystery finally has begun slightly to unfold. tom, it's nice to sigh. thank you for being with us. >> my pleasure. >> first, let me know if i said anything that doesn't comport with what we know now. and can you give us an update on what we know now? >> you're right. sources are telling me boeing investigators have looked at the photos. they believe it is a piece of a wing. perhaps a flap. they think it is a flaperon from a boeing 777. and as you mentioned, there is only one missing right now. missing for the better part of 15 months. this is a huge break. investigators have been pouring over those photographs.
and i'll tell you, throughout the day, i was talking to many aviation experts who did not believe that this came from a 777. i talked to people within the government. the u.s. government who did not believe it came from a 777. they thought it likely came from an air bus a-310 which crashed about a thoup miles away from reunion island in 2009. however, when investigators from boeing looked closely at those photographs, they said no, we're pretty confident, it is a piece to a boeing 777. so they are now tonight, you know, our sources are saying that they're feeling more confident that it is unfortunately a boeing 777 piece. and as up, there is only one 777 missing. >> forgive my ignorance on this. once they are able to access not just video footage of debris on this beach and this island, once
they're able to actually see it. will they be able to definitively able to tell what kind of plane it is from? are there distinctive things on a wing to identify it? >> i have sty i think they're 98% there right now. what they want to do before they sign on the dotted line them want to see the serial number embedded on that particular piece and make absolutely sure. to be honest with you, they may have already done that. that may be why they're feeling so confident this is from a boeing 777. the french accident investigation board will have peel on the ground very quickly. they'll be coordinating with the australians and with the malaysians. i can tell you that tonight, just before i came on the air, the australian command center said that the fact this showed up where did it, would support the thesis that the plane went
down in that primary search zone off the coast australia. why, you say? because of the currents in the indian ocean. they do a counter clockwise movement. if could i draw a circle there, innocent middle of the indian ocean, i would do that. you would see counter clockwise, that's what the currents do. they believe it is entirely possible that months, even a year later, it picked up debris and then dropped it over there at reunion island. and what is staggering is the fact that they found this piece of debris just as you mentioned, covered in sea shells. so part of challenge is to go back doing mathematical equations to try on determine exact whatever exactly have the ocean currents been like over the past 14 months and to look temperature sea life on that piece and determine, is there any telltale signs of where that sea life originated. a big challenge. >> and obviously, this is the first concrete clue they've got.
the idea that they could essentially reverse engineer where it came from by figuring the currents, there's a lot. nbc news, aviation kornl, thank you very much. >> you bet. >> this is one of those stories that it is easy to mock in terms of how much attention it has received since that initial plane went down. and you can, it is almost turned into, because of that. it got. so attention and then news attention got attention for that. but ultimately, this is almost 300 people losing their lives. the question of motivation or of accidental cause is absolutely unanswered. there are not investigative threads that have been pulled that have led to anything. this is a legitimate mystery and a huge, huge human tragedy and this looks like the first step toward figuring it out. almost a year and a half later. a stunning story. we have much more ahead. please stay with us.
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we've got lots of news on tonight's show including one presidential candidate, apparently turning out 100,000 people tonight. 100,000? not 100 people. not a thousand people. 100,000 people. not a typo. that story is ahead. plus, a rare protest that can be described without much hyperbole as spectacular, jaw dropping and not a little bit confusing. stay with us.
start of the summer of new jersey residents asking them if they believe their governor, chris christie, would make a good president. in that poll, new jersey governors by a huge margin said that chris christie would not make a good president. more than 30 points. now, this was at the beginning of the summer. this was kind of a long time ago now. but this still stands as one of the single greatest moments that has happened on tape in the whole presidential campaign so far. this was in response to that poll and it was so freaking spectacular. watch. >> the polls say by a 65-25 margin, the new jersey voters say that you would not be a good president. why? >> they want me to stay. and a lot of time i've heard that. don't leave. >> they say you wonderful make a good president. >> i think people hear the question they want to hear no. the question was work chris
christie be a bad president? people in new jersey said yeah. yeah. chris christie would be a bad president. it was very, very straightforward. i think people didn't -- they wanted me to -- amazing. that happened at the very beginning of the summer. chris christie telling fox news, it was a misunderstanding. people actually wanted him to stay. that turns out to be something that can be checked. that as, he by him today. assertion by him. monmouth university decided to check. they clarified whether or not chris christie was right when he said that people in new jersey saying he would make a bad president, they were only saying that because they like himing. so and they wanted him to stay. they decided to check that. mon mouth went back and polled. they asked new jersey residents, do you think chris christie would or would not make a good president? and again, a huge majority, a really huge majority, there time
by more than a 40-point margin. people said he would not make a good president. but then, crucially, they asked the follow-up. they asked everybody, chris christie would not make a good president, they then asked them this follow-up question. quote, do you say that because you would rather have chris christie stay in new jersey or because you really think he would make a bad president? turns out, they really did mean it. it was not just that they wanted him to stay. they really, really really think that chris christie would make a bad president. for sure. >> they want me to stay. >> oh, they do not want you to stay. we checked actually. they don't want you to stay. that was the monmouth university poll. it was very funny. now they are polling on chris christie and his presidential chances in new hampshire which he has identified as key to his
presidential campaign. chris christie, it turns out, finds that the polling in new hampshire, he finds that very annoying. >> i've never paid attention on a monmouth poll in new jersey. and do you think people are waiting for the monmouth university poll to come out? and it is funded by a liberal owner of the asbury park press. so there are polls and there are polls. >> that was chris christie yesterday complaining about that stupid poll. today, he was still mad about it. >> governor, you have said that donald trump hurts the credibility of the party. right now you look at the polls. the college poll from new jersey looking at new hampshire. he is at 24% and currently, you're at 4%.
>> so what does that mean exactly? what mass got to do with what he's talking about? i don't understand. that i know there are lots of folks who are obsessed with polls right now. but that has nothing to do with the credibility of the things he said. i was asked a direct question at a town hall and i gave a direct answer. that's what i do. no one asked about polls except for you guys. nobody asked, nobody cares. it's -- chris christie really hates the monmouth university poll. and he is polling in eighth place at new hampshire. and he has 4% support. he is not doing much worse in that particular poll in new hampshire than all the other polls. they all have him about 4% or 5% consistently. 4, 6, 5, 5, for new hampshire polls. those numbers are terrible for
somebody who is staking their whole presidential appeal on new hampshire. in last poll in new hampshire, chris christie isn't really the story there. he is basically a footnote. the big story in that poll is obviously donald trump. who is not only winning new hampshire but look at the margin. he is winning by a double digit margin. there is only one other person in double digits. and donald trump is double digits ahead of him. that poll put him at 24% and jeb bush at 12%. donald trump doubling the guy in second place. that is a huge lead. actually because it is donald trump it is a huge lead. very classy, beautiful. very, very beautiful. and it's not just in new hampshire. late tonight, the reuters poll came out showing donald trump with a lead that big. not just new hampshire but nationwide. even slightly bigger lead. it has donald trump at 25%
nationwide. and jeb bush in second place with 12%. so donald trump nationally, more than doubling the second place figure in this new nationwide poll. i should tell you that poll is an online poll. it is not generally considered to be as good as a telephone poll. they have different methodologies and sample sizes now but it feels worth to it report all of them as they come out because nobody knows which polls will be included in the calculations by fox news channel when fox news channel averages five recent national polls to decide which ten candidates they'll allow into the republican debate next week. maybe they'll consider this new reuters poll. maybe they won't. i don't know. they're not saying. fox will not say how they'll cut people in and out of their debate. we're just supposed to accept that they'll do it somehow and the candidates are supposed to semiwhen it fox announces who is allowed to debate for the republican nomination and who is
not. we keep trying to guess what fox might do. it is our who's allowed to compete cable news derive random number generator when we plug in the polls which fox may or may not use, it looks to me like there are eight places on the debate stage that are fairly safe right now. that means the candidates who can be pretty well assured they can get a spot in the first republican debate include donald trump, jeb bush, scott walker, marco rubio, ben carson, rand paul, mike huckabee and ted cruz. those eight seats look pretty safe. depending on how fox decides. that leaves the whole rest of the field fighting it out for the last two places on stage. and until today, this ridiculous fox news ten candidate cut-off had meant there were eight candidates battling it out. as of today, it will be nine
dalts battling it out. because today, the republican candidate number 17 has filed his payment work the fcc. jim gilmore who ran for president in 200 aext jim gilmore, full disclosure, i only call my friend on tv because his campaign sometimes answers the phone when we call them. that qualifies as my friend in this day and age. jim gilmore today filed his payments to become the 17th republican candidate in the race. no word from fox yet on whether or not they'll let jim gilmore, presumably he won't flake top ten. is fox going to let him into the second tier sflaenlt their also ran kids table event that they're doing before the real debate? i don't know. if they don't include him, there will be no justification. but who knows if they'll let him in? the rules from fox news, they may not be arbitrary.
they may be very firm rules. as far as we can tell, they're secret. and nobody knows who fox news will let in and who fox news will not let in. either for the main debate or for both events. the kids table and the main debate. and that's how the republican party is choosing its presidential nominee this year. it is just astonishing. but did you hear what happened on the democratic side tonight? did you hear about that? it's so good. that's next.
what happened is in the middle of everything, it wasn't breast feed. it was breast pump. she wanted to pump in front of me during a deposition. >> the way she described it baltimore she wanted to take a break so she could take the pump out. >> not true. if you ask my lawyer who was there, he'll say i've never seen anything like it. she may have wanted to breast pump in front of me. i may have said that's disgusting. i may have. something else. i thought it was terrell. she's a terrible person. i see she is now great expert on donald trump. >> i'm sorry. i don't mean to interrupt your news feed of donald trump explaining how terrible and disgusting he finds breast feeding. sorry. but if that is not what you're interested in from a potential president of the united states, that's the that's not what you're interested in in materials of how one of our major republican parties is running its primary, i hate to interrupt.
i have some very different news for you from the. >> democratic side. one small, one big. first is the news that hillary clinton announce that had she is going to make a speech friday morning in florida. this is her first big public appearance in florida since the campaign started. here's the interesting part of it. in that speech, she is going to call on congress to lift the trade embargo on cuba. and she is giving that speech in florida and of course, lifting the trade embargo on florida is a super controversial issue in florida specifically. so that will get a big burst of attention to hillary clinton. a big burst of controversial attention. it will be interesting to see how that is received and how she handles it. stick a pin in it. it will happen on friday. in the meantime, tonight is a huge night in the busy. bernie sanders campaign. they're calling at this time organizing kickoff campaign across the country. we reported at the end of the show, we talk about it happening
in cincinnati. because of the size of the convenient, you're i assume that bernie sanders himself would be there. he is not doing any big personal appearances in the world tonight. he is just on a video stream. but he has done to it more than 3,000 events. more than 3,000. bernie for president events that happened or are happening all over the country. here's the map showing where all these events are. there are more than 3,500 across the country in all 50 states. organized in everything from meeting hall and big conference venues to people's living room. i looked on the ma'am near where i live in western mass and most of the events there seem to be already rsvp'd as totally full by the time i was checking this evening.
they're doing more than 3500 events across the country simultaneously and they say it got more than 100,000 people rsvp'd to be attending tonight. 100,000 people? when bernie sanders indicated he was going on ring, got this really big grassroots response. not just people who wanted to donate for his career but to volunteer. i remember asking him on the show whether or not he thought he would be able to handle the logistics of that much interest. and at the very beginning of his campaign he seemed a little bit daunted about scaling up his campaign to handle that many people wanting to get involved. it has been a couple months. tonight, trying to pull off more than 3,500 simultaneous events with more than 100,000 participant, show they think that they have scaled up on the technical side enough that they can turn. they can start turning all of that interest in his candidacy into what they hope will be real momentum for his campaign. we shall see.
here's where it all come together. while the republicans are completely focused on polling, because fox news has decided national polling is how the republican candidates will be allowed into or kept out of the presidential debate. that focus on polling is happening on the republican side. nobody is really watching the polls on the democratic side. hillary clinton obviously way out ahead. still, honestly, the prohibitive favorite to win the nomination and you see bernie sanders pop up and get closer to her here and there. in new hampshire, a recent poll. one of the things that has happened since bernie sanders
has been running this unexpectedly hot campaign, some smart pollsters have started to do head to head polling. general election head to head polling. for the various republican candidates and they're no longer setting up the various candidates, just head to head again hillary clinton. they've started setting up the various candidates head to head against bernie in the event that he wins the nomination. so last week, ppp polled bernie sanders versus jeb bush as a general election match-up them show jeb bush beating bernie by 7 points. they showed marco rubio beating him by 5 points. they showed scott walker in a hypothetical general election. he beat him by only 1 point. when it came to a general election head to head match-up between presidential nominee bernie sanders and republican presidential nominee donald trump, it turns out that bernie sanders wins by 10. so that was last week ppp. this weekend, cnn did the same head to head polling. and the head to head polling for hillary clinton shows her beating all the republican candidates by really big margins, as you can see here. she's beating jeb bush, scott walker, beating donald trump by a mile. that same poll also did head to
head polling on bernie sanders versus the same candidates. and it turns out, bernie sanders in the cnn national poll beats them all too. bernie sanders beat jeb bush by 1 point. he beats scott walker by 6 points. he beats donald trump nationwide in the latest cnn poll, in a hypothetical general election match-up, has him beating him by 20 points. which is more than hillary clinton would beat trump by in the same poll. nobody is watching the polls on the democratic side. right? for good reason. it is a totally different race. way too early to watch that sort of thing in any case. honestly it is way too early to be watching on the republican side of things either and nobody would be if it were not for fox news insisting thatobscure criteria by which candidates will be allowed or disallowed from debating. but those are the stakes.
one week out. which means that on the republican side, we are at the start of a one-week long political death match between these three eight candidates, plus my boyfriend jim gilmore. these nine fighting out for the last two spots. they have one week to fight it out for the last two spots and all but two of them will if he canively have their candidacies ended next week, thanks to fox news. watch this space. you know the best thing about summer? summer pizza. and you know the best thing about summer pizza? it tastes light. it tastes fresh. and it's pizza. this summer, try our new grilled chicken margherita pizza. with roma tomatoes basil pesto sauce mozzarella and grilled, all-white meat chicken. all on our thin crust. get a large for only $12.00.
what are we looking at here? look at this. is this a meeting of the northwest bungi? this cirque du soleil? maybe this is one of those david blaine escape from the hammock while dangling over crocodiles things. what is going original it started last night. it is still going on right now. it is kind of big news and nobody really knows what to do about it. but that story, the explanation for what that is is straight ahead.
there is going to be a funeral tomorrow at the u.s. naval academy in annapolis. and a funeral is always bad news for someone. but this is a particularly very, very sad case. you might remember the legal case of omar, the youngest person held at guantanamo. they picked him up in afghanistan when he was 15. they then held him for a decade. in that case he was pointed a defense lawyer. a military lawyer who was instructed to give him the best legal defense possible. when the military assigned a lawyer for him they picked a good one. a lieutenant xlanlder in the u.s. navy. he was dogged and serious in mounding the defense. ultimately his defense strategy how omar was finally released from gaunlt after a decade. he got out in 2012. then this month, about a week and a half ago, that excellent military lawyer who worked successfully only remarkable case, he died. he died at the age of 44.
he leaves behind a wife who is a navy lawyer. he leaves behind their 12-year-old son. commander keebler will be buried at the u.s. naval academy after tomorrow's service. 44 years old when he died. now, when guantanamo was in the news, it is usually about trying to close it or maybe it is something about one of the prisoners being held at guantanamo. this is neither of those stories. this is about the commander's death from cancer. and several other people's deaths and a number of people who have recently gotten very sick. and this is something that could be coincidence, it could be a random occurrence but it also could be very scary. the navy has announced that they will open an investigation into claims that a large and apparently disproportionate number of people like commander bill keebler, young and healthy people, who have worked at guantanamo, or who have served
in the military there, specifically as part of the military commissions, they are investigating what seems to be an unusually large number of those people getting diagnosed with very grave illnesses or dying from them. the center for constitutional rights has a number of lawyers who have served there. they say they have a list have more than 20 people, krnls and military personnel, including a number of lawyers, who they say have become in their words, gravely ill after spending time living and working at guantanamo on the military commissions. the miami herald reports a lawyer in the navy reserve, a lawyer who work at guantanamo on one of the military commission bases there, this week filed a explain listing the name of seven military and civilian person heel have worked at the compound at guantanamo in recent years and who have since been diagnosed with cancer. the miami herald itself has started compiling its own list
of cancer cases who have been diagnosed who work at the site. the specific part of base over the past seven years. the herald said they know of nine people, working age healthy people them say they know of nine people who have been diagnosed of congressman, lymphoma, crank, and three people have died from cancer just in the last 13 months. he died this past friday. the defense lawyer, his funeral will be tomorrow. in january it was army come robert kottel. he earn a bronze star. he had worked at the military commissions at guantanamo. he died of cancer in january. he was 52. in june of last year, it was marine major joshua kirk. major kirk had been
valedictorian of his high school class. he got a law degree at uva and then he worked at guantanamo. he died last year of cancer at the ripe old age of 35. 35 years old. and 44 years old. and 52 years old. and all these other serious illness and cancer diagnoses among these relatively young, healthy, age people. all of whom worked at the military commission site at guantanamo. what's going on here? most prisoners at guantanamo don't go on trial at all. a select few have been tried in this ad hoc military commission system that the bush administration invented and the obama administration has half hafrtdly kept going. it is a whole court system. a whole justice system invented just for this purpose. and it has a lot of problems. not the least is logistical. they set up this justice system on a navy base on an island
nation, on cuba, in a country that does not want us there. it is not like the lawyers and others can stay at the holiday inn and meet their clients like normal. what they did at guantanamo to make this thing possible baltimore they built lawyers and others involved, they built them a little tent city. a tent city in a trailer park on guantanamo and it is more military person and the lawyers and others. these military commission cases all take years. and the people working on those cases, logistically, they final it hard to come and go. they're totally dependent on the military for transportation for everything. so working on a military base means living in this ten city compound this happens to be in an old air strip which who knows what it was before the tents
there. one of the complaints was that this may have been a place they dumped jet fuel. some of which are known to be carcinogens. a few hundred people have lived and worked there. what seems like a disproportionate number of them have died from cancers at a young age. a larger number has been diagnosed with cancer or other serious illnesses. the complaint, reportedly asked that that compound at guantanamo should be evacuated. those lawyers and all those other personnel out there should be taken off that site while an investigation happens into what's going on there. the navy says they have opened up the investigation but they're leaving the people there. they're not evacuating anyone. not yet. joining us, a senior managing attorney at the center for constitutional rights.
thanks vex for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> in terms of what i've explained, from the explain that we know of, is that how you understand it? >> it is. so nine cancer cases about, a dozen other odd problems. things like thyroid issues, unexplained growths. out of a pool of 200 people who have spent an awful lot of time down there. >> is it fair to describe them as working age, relatively healthy people? >> you point out the cancer patients are younger people which is not typical of cancer. and we have not found any pattern of previously serving in other places. we haven't seen that. what they have in common is that they all serve in the camp justice. so we haven't seen this pattern of weird illnesses or cancers before 2008, which is when jump camp justice, the tent city you refer to opened up. beyond that, the office building where commission counsel work in
has had to be closed down for a while, about two years ago, i believe in order to be remediated for toxic mold and asbestos issues. the place is covered with signs that say do not drink the water out of here under any circumstances on the taps. there are a lot of signs of problems. and the military is saying they are looking in to whether there are carcinogens. just that language shows there's an issue that needs to be taken seriously. >> the thing about guantanamo and overarching things no one thought it would be operating in this way for so long. the people there longest without i a break are the prisoners. i know guantanamo as a site is big, 40 or 50 square miles. is there a concern for the prisoners too. is that the same part of the base? >> there are different concerns. every prison in america is a health disaster with tuberculosis and other issues being common place. as a lawyer working in a prison,
you don't expect where you lay your head down or the office where you work in the field is making you sick. that is what we are seeing here. it is particular to this runway with. there are other issues for detainees and i think their medical needs are neglected which exacerbates sometimes but this is unique to the folks working on both sides in the court and the military commissions process. >> it is antidotal information we have got but it is startling. cancer clusters are notoriously hard epidemiologically to get out but if there is acutely toxic carcinogenic pollution there they should be able to do it. >> i don't have confidence they will be transparent about the results. i meet with a client regularly. went we are allowed to bring food in, it turns out he is hepatitis c positive. sharing food is not a good idea with a client. the military never bothered to tell us about it.
the real worry is they don't with transparent about the results. it's easy to test the runway and to do an epidemiological study of a small control group of 200 people. will the military tell us? i don't have confidence in that and i'd rather see the epa or cdc take the lead in the investigation. >> that seems like a doable or at least admirably specific damage. senior attorney for the center of constitutional rights, thank you for helping us understand this. it is a startling story. we'll be right back. stay with us. t whitestrips! crest 3d white whitestrips... remove 14 years of stains. i knew i recognized that smile. crest 3d white whitestrips the way to whiten. like it used to?ould bounce back new neutrogena hydro boost water gel. with hyaluronic acid it plumps skin cells with intense hydration and locks it in. for supple, hydrated skin. hydro boost. from neutrogena.
this is not that lion story. this is the over lion story. this is the only video we have seen of an animal that's on the loose of milwaukee, wisconsin. there's some dispute what it is. journalists have settled on describing it like a lion-like animal. this was first spotted nine days ago. city cops and animal control have been searching for the lion-like animal for nine days since it was first seen. after nine days the thing must be hungry. the new local tactic to catch it is to put out a bunch of these cages. have a heart style cages. animal control used them for big marmaduke-sized dogs. they have decided maybe it was a pet rather than a wild animal that got loose. for bait they are using people food. the milwaukee journal sentinel reporting today and us confirming today the bait contains turkey, chicken, summer
sausage and mcnuggets. animal control officers telling us the summer sausage and nuggets were included for their aroma. big cats are obviously supposed to eat fresh red meat but apparently animal control officers believe the price with contact with humans is they develop a taste for table salts. we'll keep you posted. stay with us.
for the last few days there's been an ice breaker ship parked along the river in portland, oregon. it's an ice breaker that's been leased by shell oil as part of their effort to drill the arctic for oil. this ice breaker sprung a leak three feet long when it was up in alaska. they had to ship it to portland, oregon, to get repairs before it can return to the arctic and rejoin shell's efforts.
well, when this ice breaker arrived at portland over the weekend, it was greeted by a sea of protesters in tiny boats, mostly people in kayaks. the ice breaker was able to get in to port, though and presumably it's got its repairs done now, we guess. it does now need to get back out to the pacific ocean so it can sail to the drilling site in the ocean so shell can do its drilling. to do that, the ice breaker needs to leave the location where it is now and pass underneath this bridge, the st. john's bridge to get access to the ocean. early this morning, when it seemed like shell's ship was ready to leave, this is what happened at the st. john's bridge -- look underneath the bridge. more than dozen people dangling off the bridge, basically forming an ariel blockade. the activists repelled over the side of the bridge this morning and they are hanging there. they say they have enough supplies to last a few days. they say they are not going anywhere. the ship is essential to shell being able to drill the arctic
and right now, in order to do that the ship will have to face a human gauntlet in order to get out of portland. the story was fascinating from the beginning. it gets better every day. watch this space. "first look" is up next. it's thursday, july 30th. right now on "first look," mystery debris from a large airplane discovered on a island many the ocean. could it be wreckage from mh 370? an officer charged with murder in a police stop. >> totally unwarranted. plus tom brady fights back against the nfl. >> a man falls 17 stories from a balcony and lives. water full of sewage at the site of next year's olympic games.