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ers that have lost mothers. we, like amy said we get sad, but we get angry. and women are not afraid to take the reigns happening now and we could not be more grateful to amy schumer for standing up as well and in this movement we often say that it's a marathon not a sprint and we're looking forward to running the distance with amy. >> sarah clemens, thank you. tonight on all in. >> i don't have pollsters, i don't what to waste money on pollsters because i don't want to be unreal. i want to be me. >> a backlash to the criteria that will put him at center stage. then the president's historic push for clean energy. >> there is such a thing as being too late when it comes to
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climate change. >> plus, as senate republicans try to defund planned parenthood, hillary clinton stands up to protect it. >> we're going to fight back. i'm proud to stand with planned parenthood. >> and senator chuck schumer brings his cousin into the fight for gun control. >> unless something is done and done soon dangerous people will continue to get their hands on guns. >> "all in" starts right now. good evening from new york i'm alex wagner in for chris hayes. the first gop presidential debate just three days away the backlash against fox news over the rules of that debate is reaching a fever pitch. and new reporting tonight suggests donald trump's friend rudy giuliani is pressuring fox to keep megyn kelly from putting too much pressure on trump. >> first two new national polls today with more good news for the donald.
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both polls show trump leading the pack with 26% support among republican primary voters giving him a double digit lead over his nearest rival jeb bush. trump and bush are guaranteed to be on that debate stage thursday night but seven of the gops 17 major candidates are poised to be left out under fox news' controversial rules that dictate the candidates pulling among the top ten in national polls will be allowed to the participate. those who seem unlikely to make that cut are none too happy about the situation. >> special polls mean nothing. >> national polls mean nothing. it's an arbitrary figure. and the network and rnc have gone along with it. people are concerned that the media is now saying, we're going to decide, cull the field. we're going to decide who the top candidates are. >> almost certainly relegated to the kiddy table. and rick perry, edged out by
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governors christie and -- and kasich by a little more than a percentage point and if that sounds arbitrary and unscientific, there say major polling firm that agrees with you. they descended to suspended republican polling system since the fox news system asks to have a precision that ignores the margin of error. in order a difference of a percentage point of two is effectively meaningless and yet, being used to decide who makes the stage. as for the debate itself, we may have got a preview when the self-funding trump lashed out at the candidates organized by the koch brothers tweeting those who had gone to quote beg for money from the koch's may be the wealthy brother's pup eppes. he said he won't be willing to
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attack but would be prepared to counter punch. >> i certainly, i think i know most of the subjects very well. i've been through it. a lot of people have been asking me a lot of questions for three or four months and we'll see what happens but again, i don't think you can artificially prepare for something like this. >> joining me now, msnbc michael steele former chair of the rnc and new york magazine's national affairs editor gabrielle sherman author of "the loudest voice in the room." gabe let's start with fox news. how much pressure are they feeling now? >> this is unprecedented in american mom ticks where one tv network and executive that runs it is controlling who republicans get to see debate on the stage and the campaigns are lobbying him because it seems obvious. republicans watch fox news. if you're a republican candidate and not on the main debate
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stage, your chances are torpedoed. roueudy ghoulian knee called ails. they know the value of being on the fox news stage. >> do you think that's having an effect? does the call have the intended effect or susceptible to it? >> i don't think so. ails as we know has taken over the republican party. he'll do what he needs to do. the reaction is more revealing that the panic you see in the republican party about trying to curry favor with the this one tb executive, it really is unprecedented. >> chairman steel, lindsey graham has been dishing out the quotable quotes lately and i want to the the play a little sound today when he talked about donald trump and the effect of donald trump in this debate. >> well, you got the donald trump debate how will he perform? will he say? when i'm in the first debate happy hour debate at 5:00 start drinking, by 9:00 donald may
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make sense if you drink enough. >> by 9:00 donald trump may make sense to you. >> i love the senator. >> he's having a moment in hiss own way. chairman, which do you think is the longer term problem for the republican party at this particular moment? the fox debate rules, which may preclude certain serious candidates from taking the main stage or donald trump who may have a long-term ripple effect? >> i think probably the debate rules because apparently cnn is buying into this idea as well given that they haven't formally announced how they will do it when the they host the debate but others down stream from the fox debate at least initially indicated this was a good standard and so they may be not parenthesis of rethinking this. you're absolutely right, at the end of the day if you're the at the kiddie table, your purposes are frustrate in terms of getting on the national stage
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and being seen as an equal for the nomination even though numbers may be a percentage off here and there, that's not going to happen because hardly anyone is going to tune in for the first debate and everyone is going to focus in on the second one and that is really going to be considered the field going forward until something else changes. >> gabe, it's always a bad thing when the pollsters are revolting, right? the fact that they are saying we're going to stop polling because we don't want to be part of this what is fox doing to sure up against the criticism? >> what is fascinating is inside fox news ails is running a counter campaign against his gop critics that they are studying all these methodologies and coming up with talking points so that tomorrow when they announced official field. they will have credible answers to defend against what chairman steel said which is how do you distinguish between the margin of error where one poll is 3% and other is 4%?
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they are trying to run their own fox news campaign. >> the irony is thick. the old add age, keep your friends close and enemies clearerclear closer is truer now than ever. one of the reasons among many that gop candidate haves been out really critical of trump is because there is always a possibility of a third party run that he may make. today there is a new poll that says over 36% of likely republican voters say they are likely to vote for trump if he's a third party candidate. how seriously do you take that? >> seriously and i think trump is very sensitive to that in a positive way for him. in other words certainly a card he holds up the sleeve or in his back pocket to be played and he's indicated, you know if the party is nice to me if these, if people you know want to play fair then, you know this is not going to be an issue. so i don't think donald trump is going
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going anywhere. donald trump is the on one that takes himself out of the campaign. he's got the money. he's run whag isning what is apparently a stream line campaign. he's doing this his own way and i think that keeps the interest in him with those folks that 36% or whatever it happens to be and he knows that. going into thursday alex i don't think you'll see this guy whose running around screaming at everybody. i think you've got a taste of what you'll see from donald from the meet the press interview with chuck todd measured a little bit disciplined and focused. >> his spokesperson says trump will be trump and also also important to note that the trump campaign has already laid out detailed policy plans and solutions for some of the biggest problems. so are you expecting to hear an alternative to the affordable
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care act on the debate stage thursday night coming from donald trump? >> you'll hear elements of that. probably in broad strokes but that's been one of the underlying criticisms. where is the beef? how do you propose to do this? this affords him to answer the question we know there is a provok tore in donald trump and antagonist. is there a president inside donald trump and that's what people want to see. >> that is not a retorehetorical question. is there any chance rick perry and his fans will make it as lucky number 1 1? >> i don't see it. i could be wrong but i've heard they are planning on ten people. >> gabe sherman, fascinating reporting. thank you for your time chairman steel. good to see you. >> you got it. tomorrow hillary clinton's campaign will begin airing the first tv adds in iowa and new hampshire at a cost of $2 million. ads that will focus on clinton's person biography. meanwhile, new indications that
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vice president joe biden may elect to enter the race thanks in part to his son, former delaware attorney general beau biden that passed away in may. in the last days beau reportedly tried to make his father promise to run saying the white house should not revert to the clintons and said a senior advisor is joining the super pack to lay the financial groundwork for a potential biden bid. biden is polling at 13% right now. far behind clinton and trailing bernie sanders, as well. many democrats are responding skeptically to renewed reports but if biden does enter the race, it would fund mentally transform this contest turning what many see as a potential coronation for hillary clinton into a high stakes battle between two of the democratic parties most powerful players. joining me now is jonathan alter. jonathan. >> hey alex. >> what is happening here? >> we don't know i mean this is
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a decision made by joe biden, not by somebody drafting him or some aid who thinks he should run. this is a personal decision, so he's in delaware, this past weekend, trying to figure out, make a decision. it's not such a great sign for him that he's at 13%. it's often you're more popular before you get into the race. >> although, he's in politics, which depresses the numbers a little bit right? >> yes, and there's an outpouring of sympathy for him because of the death of his son. >> how closely do you think the financial thing is going to impact this decision? he's tenacious, and the sorrow that hangs over the biden clan. the feeling that maybe beau would have wanted this. does that factor into the
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decision? >> when you get serious, and it stops becoming something you're thinking about because your son wanted you to think about before his death, yes, can we raise the money to be competitive? you don't want to run if you can't win. but money is less important in presidential politics than running for governor or senator. money is for name recognition, he doesn't have that issue. he would be immediately recognizable. he's old, he would be by far the oldest president when elected next year. so i think it's less than 50/50
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that he does this. i had a conversation with him in 2009 about his relationship with hillary clinton and they disagreed about iraq at that point and, you know, they were having disagreements about afghanistan and certain policy issues they didn't see eye to eye inside the obama administration and he said he was having breakfast with her regularly than would try to get on the same page but that he had great respect for her and she does for him. >> do you think there is such a thing or is it feasible to think of biden as sort of an insurance policy candidate, which is if things go terribly south for hillary clinton, he can swoop in and save the party's nomination or save the party and get to the white house if she doesn't make it. >> it's no a bad theory. there is an investigation and there is a drip drip drip on some of the stories, the e-mails, most people don't think that they are going to derail her but with the clintons you're never quite sure. so but to run as an insurance
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policy, it takes a lot to run for president. >> the organization waiting in the wings, don't you? >> that's more of a pundant thing. if you're joe biden, you don't run to be a running piece of insurance. >> well, it is a sensational plot twist on the democratic side where there have not been a lot. jonathan alter, great to see you. thank you for your time. coming up, president obama announces a major step in addressing global warming and plus, one year after the shooting of michael brown, former police officer darren wilson gives an in depth interview and later, amy schumer joins cousin senator chuck schumer to announce an initiative on gun safety. those stories and more are ahead.
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feel the impact of climate change. we're the last that can do something about it. we only get one home, one planet. >> today, president obama announced the most far-reaching action on climate change this country has ever seen. called the clean power plan. setting a goal of cutting pollution by 32% by the year 2030. but the president warned that getting the plan past his critics is going to be tough. >> long before the details were even decided, the special interests and their allies in congress were mobilizing. we've heard this before. every time america makes progress, it's been despite these kinds of claims. whenever america has set clear rules and standards for air, water, children's health, we get
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the same scary stories about killing jobs, businesses, and freedom. it's true. >> joining me now, former congressman bob engliss. he's now the director of the energy and enterprise initiative. before we get to the plan itself, i want to talk to you about the idea that the president set forth. this notion of a blue marble, we only get one home, one planet. it's a profoundly affecting argument or thing to remember, regardless of whether you're a democrat or republican. >> yes, it is. this bit of eden, it's glorious, reflects the beauties of the creator, and we want to tend that garden. >> do you think that would have
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an affect on the resistance of the republicans? >> we conservatives haven't seen a solution we like yet. energy regulations, setting caps, all that sounds very complicated, and involves the growth of government. what we've got to do, in order to get conservatives to step forward, show some solutions that fit with conservative values. >> what would some of those solutions be? >> mostly fixing economics. it's a problem with economics that has an environmental consequence. if you if i can the economics, then invasion is what's going to
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take us out of this problem. but getting that invasion means fixing the economics making it so that the competing fuels can compete against the incumbent fuels. and that's a problem with economics. >> is that a carbon tax? what is that? >> yes, a revenue neutral carbon tax. give a corresponding dollar for dollar reduction, reduce tax that punishes income. put the tax on emissions dollar for dollar. boarder erer erer add erer a justble. >> if we talk about poison pills or language that is just krypton
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would they have more success pushing for a tax as opposed to regulation? >> i think mr. obama would have more success if he said listen we can give you the votes for a tax on carbon dioxide and conservatives need to cut taxes. how about this deal? we'll give you the votes for pricing carbon dioxide and you speaker boehner choose the corresponding tax cut. that's risky for the president. the box we're in gives us a regulatory clunky solution that will be litigated until the cows come home and the result is going to be a domestic only clumsiest possible pricing of carbon dioxide. the alternative is more creative to say speaker boehner, we'll give the votes for pricing carbon die dioxide so both get
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what they need. >> to go back to where we are practically, while there is clearly a difference of the minds as far as solution, you still have very powerful vocal elements in the republican party like ted cruz who refuse to acre knowledge this is a problem. he said over the weekend, to scientists who have acknowledged cliemtd climate change, they are cooking the books, adjusting numbers, enron did the books the same way comparing climate scientists to the guys at enron. >> if i told you here is the plan of surgery for the back problem you're having, first we'll remove your head and get your head off and work on your spine and have your head back on. you would say thank you, doctor i don't think i have a back problem anymore. i think what senator cruise is responding to is the solution is proposed like cap and trade that involves a growth of government and enormous complexity decimated american manufacturing. so of course it's like that
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repub cabslicans managed to pick off two democrats and fell short of the 60-vote threshold to the advance the bill but today's move by senate republicans is a sign of battles to come as the fight against planned parenthood enters a new face set in motion by undercover videos from an anti abortion group proporting to see planned parenthood discussing the sale of fatal tissue for research. it doesn't show illegal active thety and planned parenthood maintains it does not make profit off tissue donations. a group of house republicans is threatening to hijack federal budget negotiations this fall writing a letter to john boehner pledging to a pose any spending bill that maintains planned parenthood funding. presidential candidate senator ted cruz raised the possibility of another government shut down to force the issue.
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never one to be left out, louisiana governor and fellow 2016 hopeful bobby jindal is taking action to the state level where most abortion restrictions are carried out, today jindal cancelled the contract to receive state medicaid funds, a primary source of funding for services to low income women. in a new campaign video released today, hillary clinton defends planned parenthood and calls out republican opponents by name. >> republicans like scott walker and jeb bush are calling to defund planned parenthood. the country's leading provider of reproductive health care, and they are joined by republicans in congress. if this feels like a full on assault on women's health that's because it is. when politicians talk about defunding planned parenthood they are talking about blocking millions of women, men and young people from life-saving preventive care. >> joining me now senior advisor
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for communications and political out reach. you deserve all of that. >> thank you so much alex. how are you? >> good. karen, the notion thus far circulating is that somehow this defunding planned parenthood is good but in the end could this move by republicans put hillary clinton in the white house? >> well it could. i certainly think it favors democrats and i think it favors both democratic voters and it's an important issue for moderate and independent voters and that's part of why, you know this sort of strategy doesn't really make much sense. i understand why they are trying to appeal to their base but we have seen this movie before and we know that planned parenthood is very popular with the majority of americans. they don't want to see funds cut and yet, you have even your own nbc wall street journal poll the most popular organization over the nra and you got
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republicans on the campaign trail attacking it and again, when they do so it resonates with men and women and young voters but it also again, it's moderates, not just -- so it's that sort of those swing voters that everybody is trying to get. so i think it certainly favors the democrat. >> when you hear about governor jindal preventing planned parenthood from get medicate funding, basic health care in many cases and that disproportion anytimely effects low income minority women in the south where we've seen regulations in texas basically make apportion for the privileged; privileged, is that fair to call this a war on women? >> no question. the war on women never took a break. a lot of us feel like it's been on going. part of the reason we put this video out today was to reaffirm with the vote coming today, hilary wanted to reaffirm her support but a wakeup call we got to be paying attention to the
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votes and got to be paying attention to the assault because i don't think this is going to end. i think we'll see more efforts to try to find ways to chip away at planned parenthood and cannot let that happen. part of why this is resinating with people, this is critical. if you live in a community, if you're a low income person this could be life or death if you can't access health care services or you have to go you know additional miles -- >> hundreds of miles in some cases. >> and you don't have the resources to get there, i mean think about the preventive services that again, it doesn't make sense to deny people that kind of health care and so i think people feel the sense of you are urgency. >> what about the budget negotiations that can be informed basically republicans trying to shut down the government over planned parenthood. rand paul had a choice piece of sound yesterday. i want to play it trying to blame that government shut down on president obama. let's take a listen. >> i support any legislation that will defund planned
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parenthood but i don't think you start out with your object thetive to shut down government. if president obama wants to shut down government because he doesn't get funds for planned parenthood, that would be president obama's determination to shut down government. >> okay. so what is happening there? does land paul, is he trying to prevent a government shut down and do the spin ahead of time? >> he's trying to it ahead of time. we don't need planned parenthood and he's not thinking about all the women who live in states where their governors did not expand medicaid or places like louisiana where now he's just going to cut it out all together. yeah, i think you're going to hear prespin heading up to the budget but just imagine shutting down the government over access to health care services like breast screenings. >> cervical cancer screenings. >> hiv aids testing, family planning services we'll shut the government down by denying women access to basic health care services?
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again, i think people will see this and feel a sense of urgency around that. >> we're waiting to hear and see the logical pretzel that blames the government shut down on hillary clinton. >> it's come sglging. >> thank you for your time. >> sure. the new yorker profile of former officer darren wilson and what he says nearly one year after the shooting of michael brown. that story is just ahead. (vo) after 50 years of designing cars for crash survival, subaru has developed our most revolutionary feature yet. a car that can see trouble... ...and stop itself to avoid it. when the insurance institute for highway safety tested front crash prevention nobody beat subaru models with eyesight. not honda. not ford or any other brand. subaru eyesight. an extra set of eyes, every time you drive.
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current police community relations. quote i'm really simple in the way i look at life. what happened to my great grandfather is not happening to me. i can't base my angsts off what happened to him. asked about the justice department's report on racism in ferguson's police department. wilson says quote i don't have any desire. i'm not going to keep living in the past about what ferguson did. it's out of my control. joining me now is anthony gray attorney for michael brown's family and former st. louis police officer. anthony, i want to first speak to you as a police officer and someone who understands st. louis and the dynamics of serving on the force. one of the things that strikes me about darren wilson interview, at some point in his career he asks another long-serving officer for help. he says i don't know what i'm do doing, this is culture shock when he gets assigned to a neighborhood. would you help me because you have that connection.
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you may be white but they respect you. why can they respect you and not me? it sounds like there is a complete lack in training in terms of police community relations. >> that's a big disconnect. i totally agree and alex we have been saying from the very beginning, at least i have been saying for a very long time that a lot of these officers in these predominantly populated african american areas are inherently disqualified from being able to serve in these particular places without the proper and additional training. they go in intimidated and by wilson's own word unprepared. it's a culture shock to them. and individuals such as that are not the kind of folks that you will find being able to police in areas like this. you have problems like we had on august 9th 2014 as a result of that individual policing in these areas. it's very problematic. >> what strikes me is his lack
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of reflection or empathy about what happened. at one point, do i think about what mike brown was as a person? not really it doesn't matter at this point. do i think he had the best upbringing? no not at all. officer wilson knew mike brown for 45 seconds before he shot him and a lot of people took issue with him judging his upbringing given his own. the empathy after an incident like this and that's probably down playing the magnitude of what happened in ferguson the lack of empathy would seem to be a cause for concern. >> right. and it is. you know i'm not surprised by it. it's the common display that we've seen since this insurance kent dent happened from darren wilson. it's very cocky, very dismissive. i can see him not having a lot of remorse because he's
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concocted from the version this version of events that justified why he killed mike brown junior in broad daylight. it's indicative of the person we've seen from day one. he doesn't care. it sounds like. he took his life and it's very matter of fact coming off the pages of the "new yorker" when you read his comments. >> one of the more depressing parts of this is how each side of the argument over what happened has read the justice department's finding and found it to validate their point of view. officers say look he wasn't shot in the back and didn't sound like he had his hands up. this wasn't racially motivated. activists say there is system make racism and to this day, those two sides don't seem to be talking. at the end of the piece, darren wilson is talking how he eats out at certain places.
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we try to go, how do i say this correctly, with like-minded individuals where it's not a mixing pot. people are self-segregation. >> they are hiding things in plain view. they make comments that support the very believes that host people have in the community and that the justice department have criticized. for instance i'm just going to take this one point i find very interesting. this whole thing about he didn't have his hands up. they completely ignore the fact that darren wilson was the one who was the first person to report that mike brown had his hands up and it's amazing they allow this narrative to live on and on and on. i just don't know what to say. >> competing narratives in the "new yorker." anthony gray thank you for your time. >> thank you alex have a great day. renewed call for gun safety in the wake of the deadly theater shooting last month. stay with us.
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we're here today to say enough is enough to mass shootings in our schools, college compasses, military bases and movie theaters. these shootings have got to stop. i don't know how else to say it. maybe the worst part about this is that there is a common sense way to stop mass shootings. there are many ways. >> today senator chuck schumer joined amy schumer who also happens to be his second cousin once removed to call for stronger background checks for gun buy rs.
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the two pushed for legislation weeks after a gunman with a long history of mental illness opened fire at a screening of schumer's hit movie "train kwekwreck" killing two young women and injuring others. >> when i heard the news i was devastated and wanted to go down to louisiana and then i was angry. my heart goes out to julian and maci and the survivors and everyone tied to the tragic and senseless horrifying actions of the man that shouldn't have been able to put his hands on the gun in the first place. >> the gunman bought the weapon in alabama after a background check didn't pick up his extensive history of mental issues. the schumers are working to create financial awards for states that submit proper background check information into the system and penalizing those that don't. the actress is ready for whatever reaction she gets for wading into one of the most dee
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vie sieve issues in politics. >> i am expecting a backlash and i'll handle it the way i've handled it the last ten years, i've had ten years. i've had death threats and a lot of hate directed toward me but i'm -- i'm someone who i want to be proud of the way i'm living and what i stand for. so there was no question. >> amy schumer is lending her considerable star power to gun role efforts. senator ted cruz is doing exactly the opposite. cooking bacon with a machine gun. the right going viral is next.
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and you may now be covered. contact your health plan for the latest information. ♪ [ gunfire ] >> there it is. ♪ >> machine gun bacon. [ laughter ] >> that was senator ted cruz, making bacon on the barrel of a machine gun. the video, uploaded by the conservative website, the independent journal review, is the texas senator's best effort at a viral hit, much lick his colleague lindsey graham's cell phone destruction skit that's been viewed over 2 million
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times. here to discuss the right going viral is the editor of boing boing.net. sam, the old adages out of the frying pan into the gun range. no, it's not at all. what did you make of ted cruz? >> i mean, i think he learned a little bit from joni ernst in terms of the gun range. i think, look -- >> and pigs. >> and pigs, right, as in the bacon. i also think it's a way to show that easy guess cool in those circles. and it's almost like a good old segment with "the tonight show" except now you don't have to sit through while the host makes fun of you. you get to do your one joke-off. but i'm not convinced that he's trying to differentiate himself to those people who like him and trump, right? this is very texas opposed to maybe let's say new york. >> right. >> so i think there's some value for them there.
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beyond that i don't think it's going to do much for him. >> lindsey graham's video has been viewed 2 million times and i would guess by republicans and democrats alike, the narrative that republicans aren't funny or don't master the viral funny internet that maybe democrats do. has a glass ceiling of sorts been broken? >> i'm always skeptical about the numbers. some of those views may be facebook auto playing the video. compare that with viral videos made by fans. remember obama girl during the last obama campaign? the difference between that and this is that this is something that a media company that wants to make a lot of money is doing in order to make a lot of money. do you know who else likes this type of gun, the ar-15 ted cruz is using? the colorado theater shooter. he also had an ar-15. he used it to kill people in that theater. obviously they want people like
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us to say it's in poor taste. it's a very accurate video in that it shows republicans are great at wasting money, food and ammunition. each magazine they wasted cost like $20, $80 worth to cook bacon. that's ted cruz. >> the timing of it as jenny points out, the james holmes shooter, the final moment of that trial coming today and also amy schumer and chuck schumer taking to the stage to push for stronger gun safety measures, this is the ultimate sort of middle finger to all of that. yet nationally the polling around gun safety reform is very much in support of stricter controls background checks and a safer way to procure firearms. >> right. you basically just laid out the formula as to why ted cruz will never be president, regardless of what happens in the republican primary. this is the problem. they are -- within the republican primary, they are so
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hermetically sealed from what the conversation is in the rest of the country that they can't help themselves. that ad is clearly not meant for us. maybe if we talk about it, they get a couple more views. but i think jenny is right, the questioning of how the numbers there. look, i make some money off of youtube. they have 4,000 subscribers on their channel. it's a pretty dubious number that that thing got 2 million hits when ben carson's own gets 30,000. but nevertheless, look, it's working in so far as people are talking about them and not donald trump, which they're all desperate to have happen. but nobody is going to remember that bacon video after thursday night. >> it bears mentioning it is a fairly -- excepting lindsay grap's melting of his cell phone, the ben carson is a sort of screed against the aca
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wrapped in comedy sheep's clothing and the ted cruz video also has an agenda. the levity is disingenuous, if you will. >> the whole thing is fake. benji johnson was fired from buzz feed. for planl rising more than 40 times. that's who's creative directing the review videos. it feels like such pandering. look, i'm from the south. i love bacon. i own a gun and responsible gun ownership is great. responsible bacon cooking is great. these are neither. it wasn't even a machine gun. an ar-15 technically isn't a machine gun. so come on. >> i'm not even sure he was eating that bacon. the fork doesn't really prove it. >> i don't buy it. come over to my house, ted cruz, i'll show you how to cook bacon. >> in a frying pan maybe. >> thank you both for joining me tonight. that is "all in" for this evening. "the rachel maddow show" starts now. good evening rachel. >> it's great to see the you.
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you guys just hit on something really important about the ted cruz bacon video. we're going to do a huge fact check that will change everything about the republican field. i'm telling you, you're onto something here. great to see you. thanks at home for joining us. we are going to do a big fact check on the making bacon with a a machine gun video. that's coming up. i'm sure it's going to change everything. there's a lot coming up on the show tonight. happy monday. happy august. august. it was all the way back in may when i instructed our poor beleaguered graphics department that they needed to come up with a single image, a single way to show on screen all at once all of the people who we thought might conceivably be running for the republican nomination this year.

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