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today on msnbc live, wildfire war zone. 200 active duty service members join the fight against wildfires raging out of control in the west. we are live on the ground in washington state. plus, the scorching summer of trump. donald trump's call for an end of birthright citizenship divides the field, while the donald himself scores another win in the polls. right now on msnbc live, hillary clinton rallying the troops. nbc news has learned she is reaching out to supporters after the revelations about her e-mails. on monday, the state department filed new documents and indicate the intelligence community has flagged an additional 305 e-mails. it has yet to be determined if these contain classified
information. previous reviews have flagged two e-mails as contaminating top secret information. the state department says it has sent no indication of negligence or wrong doing and kint has said there were no classified markings on our e-mails. on friday, she even seemed to indicate she expected this to go away. >> i never sent nor received any classified e-mail, nothing marked classified. and i think this will all sort itself out and in a way, it's kind of an interesting insight into how the government operates because if i had not asked for my e-mails to be made public, this would not have been in the public arena. i want people to know what we did. i'm proud of the four years that i was secretary of state, so i know this is all just going to, you know, work itself out as we go forward. >> kristen welker is in las
vegas, nevada, where clinton is right now and no vetting, to supporter, when it comes to the 2008 campaign. >> that's right. they are harkening back to obama 2008 and that popular face of no bedwetting. that's the message clinton supporters are, clinton's campaign is sending to her supporters today as they deal with these questions about her e-mail and as you point out, it comes as intelligence community reviewers have asked that some 300 e-mails go under review. secretary clinton continuing to say she never sent or received any e-mails marked classified, this comes as chuck grassley also sent a letter to clinton's attorney asking if he had the proper clearance to hold on to and house her e-mail thumb drive. david kendall hasn't responded
to nbc's request for comment, but campaign officials say this was handled by the book. kelly o'donnell caught up with senator grassley. take a listen. >> is there something specific in the way her council received the information that concerns you? >> the main question is he cleared to have access to those documentations and we're going to make sure the law is followed. >> again, clinton campaign officials say that the thumb drive, the e-mail server, were handled as they should have been. they turned them over to the fbi once that was requested. for her part, clinton is going to try to reassure supporters here today in las vegas and turn the page. she wants to talk about college affordability. >> there is biden watch. that's the latest you're hearing on the vice president and his interest in 2016 and a run? >> well, i spoke with the democratic strategist who said it is just -- that he is going
to decide to run. we know he's consulted with allies and his supporters about a possible run. he hasn't taken any of the concrete steps you would see at this point. for example, starting to lay a ground game in some of these early voting states. doing polling. so, they say it seems at this point it's unlikely, having said that, those within the white house and within democratic circles say he has earned the right the make this decision on his own and to have the space to do that, so they're giving thim him that space. that's what he's doing now. he is talking to some of his ally, trying to come to a final determination. a final decision won't come until the end of this month or next month. it could put president obama in quite an uncomfortable position if he does decide to run. he sort of endorsed secretary clinton, but the white house says the president has no plans to officially endorse a candidate during the primary. >> thank you very much. and birthright citizenship is
now a flash point in 2016 thanks to donald trump. his new immigration plan would end the right that anyone boar r born in the united states is a citizen and it has his fellow candidates rushing for position. most recently, marco rubio in iowa. >> i personally doept think we need to change it. i think it's something, yeah, absolutely. >> we should end birthright citizenship. zwl zbl to me, it's about enforcing the laws of this country. >> what is your take? >> it is a giant step backwards for the party. >> i appreciate the fact that mr. trump now has a plan. if that's what it's called, but i think the better approach is is to deal with the 11 million people here illegally in a way that is realistic. >> we have been covering the trump campaign and good to see you, with trump driving much of the conversation. bobby jindal tweeted this on monday, saying we need to end
birthright citizenship for illegal immigrants. is this the immigration conversation most in the party want? >> no, a lot of the party really wanted to be looking at how can they appeal to minorities, to immigrants and immigrant communities in the next election. they got whopped in the next election and they'd like to look and find a way to appeal, not say we're going to take away something that's been there since the civil war. >> consider this. the poll out of the national republican race we see in the top five. trump, ben carson rising with george bush, scott walker on the decline and rounding out the top ten, good news for fiorina and john kasich, who are otherwise as well. so what do you make of that, especially appealing to minority vote sns. >> there's a huge appetite for outsider politicians. people who haven't been lekked before. that's why you see dr. carson
and trumps soaring. people are sick of politics as usual and think hey, maybe someone who hasn't been elected will have a direct take on this, but as you said with minority voter, these candidates have pretty far right views on immigration and i mean, the gop really needs to broaden their approach. not close the door on that and this is the power of these candidates like dr. carson, like trump, who are pulling the party to the right on issues that the rest of the party who has been elected before knows it's not the best way to get elected. >> especially so important crucial with that hispanic vote and appealing to them. thank you very much. we are asking you what you think about the most controversial parts of the plan. do you agree with his call to end birthright citizenship? hope you can join in on the debate. logon to pulse.msnbc.com. we'll check the results thout the show. we are joined by a senior
immigration analyst at the national counsel of laraza. let's look at another cnn poll here. the latest on the question of whom do you trust on the question of immigration. look at this. 44% of republicans say donald trump. with everything he said in its entirety with tha we look into a broader scope, why is that? >> well, it's an interesting question and because we have seen consistently polls after polls that talk about a comprehensive, a realistic solution that includes looking at all these interlocking parts of our immigration system. looking at perspective immigration, how people could enter into the country. looking at border enforcement and the way to address the situation of 11 million people who are settled and in the united states and have been here for more than ten years, these are folks that wouldn't be
eligible to earn their citizenship under a various proposals that have gained support of republican voters and democratic voters when asked and explained what are the different come poepts of a real immigration solution that can be implemented that's realistic, there is support across the spectrum for that type of solution. >> look at the plan specifically, he wants to end birthright citizenship, also wanted to confiscate all remittances to mexico. for the families you speak to and you represent and you hear those stories time and time again, what would that mean for them? >> it's actually a really offensive way of talking to people who have been here for a very long time. who are contributing to our country. and it really smacks in the face of the tradition that we have of encouraging immigrants to
participate fully in our country, so i think it's out of step with what the american public want, but it's also extremely offensive to families who are working and contributing. i mean, these remittances that mr. trump is talking about, that's hard earned money that people are sending to loved ones, so that really smacks in the face of what people who are hard working, who are part of their communities, most of whom have lived in the united states for more than ten years and who are seeking a real solution. it's just really out of sync with what these folks see as a practical and real solution. >> laura virgin, thank you for time. coming up, we'll talk to former new york governor and 2016 candidate from iowa and find out what he thinks about battle over birthright citizenship.
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blazes burning in several states. 95 blazes. it is the first time in nearly a decade active duty service members have been mobilized for fires. too little too late for some families. >> it was hard breaking. i don't like, i mean, i'm stand ng my backyard, i'm looking at this whole hillside and people that we know, that we love, i'm getting phone calls from people saying can you see if my house is on fire? >> leanne greg is live in washington. are they making progress? >> they are hoping to. they're going get back into the air as soon as the inversion lifts and clears so that the helicopters and aircraft can continue to drop retardant. also, they're continue building retainment lines to try and
provide additional buffer from the fire. so far, it's 30% contained and they are hoping for more progress today even though the fire has grown to 64,000 acres and 2600 people remain under ev evacuation orders. one of the biggest concerns is the northwest edge of the fire. it's now moving within six to eight miles of the town of man son and this area, 40 homes have been destroyed. they think the number could go as high at 75 homes and businesses when they complete the official count. again, washington is one of six states facing extremely dangerous fire conditions and because of the demand to fight those fires, you mentioned the u.s. military, active duty personnel being called in to help. we see training tomorrow, then will be sent to various locations across the west as needed. temperatures today are a little hotter than yesterday. there's concern about afternoon winds picking up some and conditions again are extremely dry. not a good combination.hopefull
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girl on campus last year. he has pleaded not guilty to all charges and here's what the prosecutor says happened. >> she tried to say no. the she tried to use her physical conduct to indicate to him this was not con senn yul, but beyond that, she didn't find the words to handle the situation and stop him. >> it is raising questions about an alleged culture of sex on the campus. alumni include john kerry and former fbi director, robert mueller. documents show a school counselor told police about a quote, horrible tradition at the school called the senior salute, in which a senior e-mails a younger student regarding a conquest before they graduate. break down what happened in court so far today. >> good afternoon. the court heard today from the
prosecution and defense. heard their opening statements and each side said that the accuser, the defense said that the defendant will testify in this case, which means that the court will hear each side of this story that has raised a lot of uncomfortable questions about sexual life, particularly on the campus of one of the nation's most elite schools. in the meantime, what the court heard from, or heard about today, was this issue of the culture on campus. the prosecutor, we all heard the sound bite you just played. the prosecutor said that culture played a role in this. that the accuser met with the defeint dent, expecting a level of physical contact and that the defendant became aggressive, that she tried to resist and that he went ahead any way, the prosecutor said.
prosecutor said the details in this case will be hard to listen to. the defense in the meantime is is also speaking to this question of culture. the defense said that it is a matter of pride. for young women on the campus to be selected to be asked to participate in the so-called senior salute tradition and the defense attorney said that the salute does not necessarily have to mean sexual contact. that it can involve other forms of contact such as kissing and hand holding. all of this is putting the school, which as i said, is one of the nation's most storieded and elite schools, laboratory for leadership, in an uncomfortable position. the school has put out a stam. the school says current allegations about our culture are not emblematic of our school or value, rules or the people who represent our student body. alumni, faculty and staff and francis today, the jurors are on
their way this afternoon to the school to view the alleged site of the crime on the roof of a math and sciences building. >> this is part of the opening stimt there is in court. thank you very much. appreciate the update. up next, republican front run-dmcer donald trump dives into the deep end on immigration. do you agree with his call to end birthright citizenship? we'll ask former new york governor, george pataki. plus, will the government green light the little pink pill? and why it's kicking up so much controversy and a real life tiger on the loose in detroit. seriously. we'll tell you why coming up. boost® high protein nutritional drink can help you get the protein you need. each serving has 15 grams of protein to help maintain muscle, plus 26 vitamins and minerals including calcium and vitamin d to support strong bones.
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a new poll shows him in front with 24%. meanwhile, candidates continue to flock to the iowa state fairhoping to gain traction. this morning, marco rubio spoke on the soap box and gave his pitch to voters. >> what's at stake is not simply what political party's going to win or what candidate's going to govern. what's at stake here is what kind of country will we are b in the 21st century. >> joining me now is former new york governor and current presidential candidate, george pataki. thank you for being with us, taking the time for us. >> good afternoon. >> want to start with donald trump's immigration plan and the key points that we've been hearing about. he would deport all undocumented immigrants from the united states and automatic right of citizenship for children born in the u.s. to undocumented immigrants. people like scott walker have been on trump's plan. where is your stand,
specifically where it comes to ending the birthright citizenship. >> this is not a plan. this is a pander. and a pander to those angry at the government and immigrants. if you want to leave this country, you have to have more than anger. you have to have policies that are going to solve problems. i don't support amending the constitution to kick out kids born here. it's not practice kl that we're going to put 11 million people on buses or trains, have police round up all over the country, going to farm, businesses and sending people back. this is something that shouldn't be taken seriously. what should be taken seriously is the fact that we have a government that really is so out of touch with the american people that there is this degree of anger where people are willing to support someone simply because of their anger at the inside game in the washington. >> how does that affect when it comes to these poll numbers here, especially this latest cnn
poll, especially with trump still out front and look where wrou stand, sir, at the bottom of the pack. less than 1%. is it time to get out and throw your weight behind one of the other candidate at this point? how can you edge your way to get higher this those polls? >> oh, i think as the summer passes on and people look about at the future of the country, they're going to want grown up government. they're going to want someone who yes, understands how washington is too much of an insider game and we need someone who's going to take washington and change it dramatically, but they're not going to want someone saying things that the american people are never going happen. i have a record of dramatically changing government. when i say we're going to radically reform washington,ly get it done if elected. >> would everything that's happening now, especially in the polls and trump's surge, kind of kiddie table government?
>> no, i honestly think there is that anger, this belief that washington is a world apart and i share that belief. there is an insider game. it is a corrupt system where the tax code benefits the rich and powerful who have lobbyists. there is this political class who take care of themselves. that has got to change. but you're not going change it by having policies that don't make sense. you're going to change it by having someone who can effectively run a government, bring the republicans and democrats together to solve problems. i know i can do that. >> here's a perspective. more electable candidates are losing. quote, republicans may have needed an electable candidate to beat the formidable talent of barack obama, but to take on hillary clinton maybe they think a reality star and tabloid fixture could do the trick and that's the end of that quote. is that true? of the republican party now?
>> i don't think so. i think it's what i was saying is that this sense that washington doesn't represent the people. that the people class in both parties too out of touch with the needs of the people and i share that. i think that's the reason for this, but i also think ultimately as the race progresses, people are going to want something that offers solutions that work and who has shown an ability to bring things together to solve problems. >> have you had the conversation with yourself to see or discussed with yourself when it will be time to drop out and support someone else? >> i'm going. if you believe in your ability to bring people together and lead this country, and believe that we need to change the direction of washington as much as anytime as i've seen in my lifetime, you have to fight the fight. i don't underestimate the odds. when i ran as a republican conservative against cuomo for governor of new york, no one thought i had a chance, but i won. if you believe in your policies and your ability to lead, you
fight the fight. >> republican presidential candidate and former new york governor, george pataki, we thank you for the time. >> thank you. donald trump's plan on immigration is the focus of a poll question today and we are asking you, do you agree with trump's call to end birthright citizenship? our scoreboard reflects this. 46% of you actually agree. 54% disagree. keep the conversation going. we'll have another look later in show. planned parent hood is going on the offensive, releasing ads in four states argumenting these senators, urging supporter to tell hem not to shut down the government to defund planned parenthood and here's one of the ads targeting senator ayotte. >> first, kelly ayotte voted to defund planned parenthood, risk health care for millions of women. now, republicans want to shut down the government to block funding for planned parenthood.
>> would anyone be there to process by veterans benefits? >> what would that do to social security and medicare? >> it come on the heels of the antiborgs abortion group's releasing several videos of executives discussing fetal tissue and organs. they say the recordings are misleading. how else is planned parenthood fighting back and pushing back with traction against those video sns. >> well, there's no question that it's been a tough stretch of time for planned parenthood, but it's probably feeling more confident than ever in light of the fact that opinion polls still show it is overwhelmingly popular. the funding in question and the fight that is being referred to, that only goes to contraceptive
services, it's not related to this fetal tissue question, but they've used the question of whether they violated fetal tissue regulations to energize a preexisting campaign against the organization. the question is whether when you come back in the fall, when congress is back in session, will republicans have the same sort of appetite. today, kevin mccarthy issued an update. so far, none of the state level investigations have turned up anything in materials of illegal wrong doing. but you're still seeing this defunding push many the states and the question is whether republicans have the appetite to take it all the way to a shutdown of the federal government, which is precisely the kind of, what planned parent hood sees as a vulnerability we're seeing in these ads. >> thank you very much. >> thanks. the food and drug administration is expected to announce today whether they are approving the world's first drug to booth a woman's sexual desire
and some are calling it the female viagra. the drug makers say the pill is a treatment for low libido in women and supporters are urging tvr ads are using tv ads as a major part of a public relations push. >> lucky for you, you have countless medication options that will make you just as randy as a teenager. too bad your lady doesn't have any. >> joining me now is nbc news editor, natalie azar. it's kind of wrong to call it that. >> it's wrong simply because of the way the drug works. men have this drug called viagra, specifically used to treat erectile dysfunction. it exerts an effect physically on the person. this drug on the other hand is actually meant to affect the inner play of certain chemicals in the brain thought to be responsible for motivation and
reward systems in the very front of the brain that if you have the right balance of those, you can actually allow sexual desire to manifest. >> also the fda denying the approval twice since 2010. why are they repeatedly saying no approval yet. >> the main reason really has to do with the site effect profile. what the critics are suggesting is that the benefits of the drug, which are pretty modest, don't really outweigh the potential for risk. what it looks like the most common side effects would be, sleep, disneyness and nausea, which sound pretty tolerable, but in certain cases, the fatigue and low blood pressure, people have passed out. you can hit your head, if it happens when you're driving. their argument is that for the small amount of benefit, is it really worth it. >> there's also the debate of if it even works.
there are the 200 health officials who signed that petition arguing this just maybe a little bit more than a placebo here. does it really work as far as addressing low libido in women? >> it's addressing what they think is happening. hypothetically. with the central nervous system and all these chemicals and the problem is that sexual dysfunction in and of itself is a very complex thing affected by a number of different things. the study has a fair number of validated measures, but at the end of the day, i can't say if the number is truly clinically meaningful, although they had some significant results, but again, patient selection and i said this this morning also, is important. alcohol can exacerbate side effects. >> especially now the fda is expected to announce anytime
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enforce professional and personal boundary, he quickly dismissed my concerns and impresseded upon me as a mere staffer, such a suggestion was not my place. >> despite trying to cover up the affair, they both said they will not resign from office. kathleen gray is a political reporter with the detroit free press who has been following the story and as i'm reading details about this, he also revealed details like hugs that kind of lingered a little too long and really what struck me about sleeping in each other's offices with a pillow and tucking them? >> that was part of it. just another twist to this story that keeps getting more and more bizarre every day. the staffer said that they spent a lot of time in their back offices, which are shut off from the rest of the office. that representative courser, the man in the situation, would often sleep on her office floor
and she would bring him a pillow and tuck him in and a blanket and they would take long walks together during the day. they would have these long, personal, romantic hugs during the day and it made the stafferer so uncomfortable that he ended up quitting in april. for not only what was happening between these two representatives, but for the fact that they had rescheduled or canceled more than half the meetings they had scheduled as lawmakers with constituents, lobbyists, other people, too. >> did these lawmakers think they were being discreet or just simply not care that they were going -- didn't care who would see? >> they certainly didn't care about their staffers seeing what they were seeing. there are two other staffers who corroborate some of this information, who were fired later on in july and they just, they just kept it up. there have been rumors about an affair between the two of them
swirling around lansing for quite some time, but it really didn't come to light and there wasn't evidence it was actually happening until just a few, just a week or two ago. >> and there are allegations about a cover up. what can you tell us about this. >> that's what brought this whole thing to light. and this is where the story gets pretty bizarre. he sent an e-mail widely distributed an e-mail to republicans sent from an anonymous person. it was a fake e-mail that said he was a sexual deviant, paying for sex with male prostitutes behind lansing nightclubs and he sent this e-mail as a way to inoculate the herd is the term he used, from finding out about this affair and making it pale by comparison. >> so, in his eyes, having paid sex with male prostitutes was worse than the actually alleged affair. is that correct? >> apparently so.
apparently so. he now says he is being blackmailed an that the person is trying to get him to resign for office or this information is going to become public. there are several veinvestigatis going on to this. the house is investigating whether they used taxpayer funded resources, staff to cover up this affair. and the michigan state police is always starting to look into whether there was actually a blackmail scheme. he has produced some text messages he got from this alleged blackmailer that came from a burner found, so we're not sure who this person is. or if these texts are legitimate. but said resign or i will release the information. >> and both say they will not resign. we'll see if they can survive this scandal. we appreciate it. thank you. up next, how a real life tiger got loose on the streets of detroit and starbucks is
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the hospital? >> what will remain after trump? and then breaking news, troops called to combat wildfires burning across western states. the first time in a decade. we'll head to washington, the epicenter of the operation. and developing news in new hampshire, a former student at an elite prep school on trial for rape. how this case has exposed an alleged secret sexual tradition on campus. hi there. nice being with you. right now, on msnbc live, hillary clinton rallying the troops. nbc news learned she is reaching out to supporters after the latest revelations of her e-mails. monday the state department filed new documents in court and indicate the intelligence community has flagged an additional 305 e-mails for classification review. it is yet to be determined if any of these contain classified information. previous reviews flagged two with top secret information. the state department has said
it's seen no indication of wrongdoing at this point and hillary clinton repeatedly said there were no classified markings on the e-mails. on friday, clinton even seemed to indicate in an interview that she expected this to go away. >> never sent nor received any classified e-mail, nothing marked classified. and i think this will all sort itself out. and in a way, it's kind of an interesting insight into how the government operates. because if i had not asked for my e-mails all to be made public, none of this would have been in the public arena. but i want people to know what we did. i'm proud of the four years that i was secretary of state. so, i know this is all just going to, you know, work itself out as we go forward. >> joining me, kristen welker traveling with clinton in las vegas and nbc news political analyst and former pennsylvania governor ed rendell. to both of you, thank you for joining us. we start with you, kristen.
no bed wetting from the clinton campaign of supporters. >> reporter: that's the message today. questions of clinton's e-mails mount, they're saying, look. don't panic. secretary clinton has been very clear. she's reiterated over and over again that she never sent or received any e-mails marked as classified at the time. still, the problem is drip, drip, drip. the fact you have the state department reviewing and aiming to release those 55,000 pages of clinton's e-mails, the more e-mails that get reviewed, the more that get flagged for potentially needing to be classified after the fact, doesn't suggest that they were classified at the time. but all of that is adding fodder to republicans. jeb bush asked about this earlier today in south carolina. take a listen to what he had to say. >> when you have -- when you have classified information going over a server that is against the law and certainly against the policies of the administration that she served,
that's a problem. and the fact that she's not been forthright in explaining the situation is also a problem. >> reporter: now, secretary clinton has tried to dismiss this as a republican talking point. the problem is you also have the fbi investigating whether any of her e-mails were mishandled so this is an issue that's likely going to be around for quite a while. clinton campaign officials acknowledge that. their strategy to turn the page is to reach out to supporters and also secretary clinton is going to try to focus on the issues she wants to talk about, college affordability and talking about later on today here in las vegas. >> all right. also, i want to ask you about joe biden, is there a movement of a possibility of a joe biden run? >> reporter: well, no movement from the joe biden camp but we are hearing from a democratic strategist familiar with the thinking inside the white house saying a number of white house officials who don't believe that biden is actually going to run. they believe that he's talking about it, he's exploring the
idea and when push comes to shove he will determine that it's probably a little too late to get into the race and obviously secretary clinton has already shored up a number of don donors. those within the white house, those in democratic circles believe biden earned the right to make the decision in his own time and he's been reaching out to supporters and allies. democrats are pushing him to run. they feel jittery about secretary clinton's chances in a general election and there's a push there. biden said he won't make a decision for a little while. the earliest for an answer from biden end of this month and could be next month. francis? >> kristen welker in las vegas, thank you very much. now bring in former pennsylvania governor ed rendell. governor, good to see you, as always. do you believe clinton is honest and forthright from the beginning of this controversy? >> yeah. i think there's been parsing of language but basically she has. and she's right. she didn't do anything that
other secretaries of state didn't do. they had private e-mails. colin powell recommended she have a private e-mail. so that's number one. number two, she didn't break any state department regulations. that was affirmed after the newspapers got it wrong. so no. i think she's been basically telling the truth. she may have parsed things here or there but basically telling the truth. and i do think she's right that this -- she's fortunate this is taking place almost a half a year in front of the first caucus and a year and a half in front of the first -- the dwal election itself so i think by the time november 2016 rolls around this will not be an issue on the front burner. >> dealing with it now, leaky pipe of the e-mail saga, also affecting her poor polling coming to her being honest and trustworthy as we've seen, what do you make of the surge of bernie sanders considering that? >> well, i think the bernie
sanders surge has nothing to do with the e-mail problem that secretary clinton's facing. bernie sanders appeals to a very significant wing of the democratic party who has first and foremost at its issue income inequality and bernie focusing on that and probably did a better i don't know for a candidate bringing that into fore. >> okay. >> but the interesting thing from the clinton standpoint is 94% of the people who have said they would vote for bernie sanders in a national poll said they would vote for hillary clinton in the fall. >> do you think if that e-mail controversy wasn't a reality, if it did not exist he would be doing just as well? >> absolutely. >> okay. >> he is doing well because of positives that people see in him that he's a standard bearer of that issue. not because of dissatisfaction of secretary clinton. >> hillary clinton and the confrontation by members of the black lives matter movement
monday and then video of the side chat released. let's play a portion of that and then get your take afterwards. >> i don't believe you change your hearts. i believe you change laws. you change aloe case of resources. you change the way systems operate. you're not going to change every heart. you're not. but at the end of the day we can do a whole lot to change some hearts and change some systems and create more opportunities for people who deserve to have them. >> now, is this an issue coming to black lives matter? hillary clinton or even bernie sanders, anyone on the left needs right now? >> no. i think it's a legitimate issue. i think secretary clinton in that piece that you just played handled it beautifully. look. they have the right to speak their peace. if i could conducting a rally and people from black lives matter wanted to have a part of that rally, i'd let them have a part of that rally because it is
an important message. all america should hear. >> all right. >> i think bernie and hillary are on the right side of that issue. >> all right. we'll be speaking with a leader of the black lives movement later on in this hour. for now, former pennsylvania governor and long-time clinton supporter, ed rendell, always good the talk to you. thank you. >> thanks. have a good day. >> you, too. a flash point of 2016 is birthright citizenship. the new trump plan would end the right of anyone born in the united states is automatically a citizen and has the fellow candidates rushing for a position, marco rubio in iowa today. listen. >> no. constitution can be amended. i don't think we need to change it. >> i think that's something we should -- yeah, absolutely. going forward. >> we should end birthright citizenship. >> to me it is about enforcing the laws of this country. >> what is your take of donald trump doing and saying and ideas put snort. >> giant step back for the party. >> i appreciate the fact mr.
trump has a plan if that's what it's called but i think the better approach to deal with the 11 million people here illegally in a way that is realistic. >> joining me now from washington is jeremy peters of "the new york times." jeremy, good to have you with me here talking about this and the new poll of cnn saying 44% of republicans trust donald trump on the question of immigration so he seems to be driving this immigration train. he's at the controls. how's he managed to do in the debate over, you know, as far as the other me believes of the party? >> i think the only person that a lot of republican voters are hearing is donald trump and not just the copious media attention he receives but also because of his celebrity. you are talking about a man who's an incredibly well-known to large majorities of the american population and that i think gives him an advantage, an advantage that frankly is far, far ahead of any other candidate in this field.
>> do you think that celebrity trumps, lack of a better word, the policy, six-page policy paper he released? >> i think it gets him not just a foot in the door but kind of puts him head and shoulders above the rest of the crowd coming to, you know, getting them to think about supporting him. i mean, he is a household name. he is an entertainment celebrity. he is a reality television character. so, the hurdle to overcome is that much lower for him. >> i want to play with you more of jeb bush said moments ago. he gave new reaction on the birthright citizenship debate. let's listen. >> look. this is -- this is a constitutionally protected right. i don't support revoking it. there's a way to use leadership to solve abuses for people that are coming into the country having children so that their children can be citizens. that's a legitimate problem. and a targeted way to deal with this issue. >> so many will argue he should
own this immigration debate and said the most about policy going back to the days of florida and wrote the book, 300 pages on immigration. why isn't he dominating the question? >> i think that it's a kind of hard for jeb bush or anybody for that matter to compete for media attention when donald trump is the front-runner. i do think, though, that as we get passed this summer flirtation with donald trump, there's going to be a more serious assessment of the issues as there usually is and in that case, you know, when congress comes back into session and we start talking more about the iranian nuclear deal, there's going to be a more substantive discussion that takes place. >> putting -- others put it, maybe a summer fling, want to show you the outsiders, how they're ranking in the cnn poll. you're talking about ben carson rising. jeb bush, scott walker falling. good news for carly fiorina. numbers rising, as well. can they get back on track and taking a look now at ted cruz
down, as well. so can they get back on track once the summer is over? >> i think there's going to be a natural sorting out that takes place. donald trump right now something like 34% in the latest poll. i think that's probably not where he stays. but, you know, then again, we've pretty much been wrong every step of the way trying to predict what happens to donald trump. so i'll say, you know, i don't know. i don't think any of us should pretend like we do. >> certainly got it there. from what we have seen. post-debate. post-iowa. to be concerned. jeremy, thank you very much. >> thank you. we are asking our viewers about donald trump. the republican front-runner has a plan on immigration and we want to know what you think about it. do you agree with the call to end birthright citizenship? 52% of you agree. that was 46%. and now 48% of you disagree.
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the death of julian bond has put civil rights voting act back in the spotlight in part because he helped push for the law but also because he benefited from the law winning his seat in the virginia legislature. virginia is the target of democrats. virginia governor terry mcauliffe is part of an effort
to expand turnout to make or break presidential election results in highly competitive states. joining me from richmond, virginia governor terry mcauliffe, one of the states covered by the 1965 voting rights act. thank you for your time. >> you bet. >> as the country is mourning the loss of julian bond, he taught at the virginia of university and spoke about the voting rights act. "the washington post" reported of 15 states with 162 votes face new voting restrictions in 2016. so, what are you planning to do, starting with a box that you check, you know, confirming your citizenship. >> and the point is, francis, we just want to make sure everybody who has a legal right to vote has an opportunity to go into that ballot booth or an absentee ballot and cast their ballot. this is the greatest nation on earth and the idea that you have seen in certain states restrictions put forth that is limiting someone's ability to
vote, that's what i'm trying to stop. i vetoed a bill here in virginia where they wanted a photo i.d. mailed in before allowing an absentee ballot. 23 states have no excuse absentee balloting. we don't have that in virginia. i'm trying to get a plan for people who can vote legally entitled to did into that ballot booth and cast that ballot. we should not deny anybody their right to vote. we shouldn't make it more difficult for folks to vote. but in addition to the ballot i initiatives of governor, i restored the civil rights. it was very difficult in virginia to get your rights back so i've changed many things that we had in virginia. i've taken the form from 13 pages to 1. no longer -- which i thought was a remnant in fairness of the poll tax. you could not get the voting
rights back with outstanding court costs. you don't have to pay them before you get the rights back. >> you have restored rights for felons, as well. >> that's important. they have served the time. they're entitled. we want them back in society. we want them feeling good about themselves. i want them to get a job. and become tax paying citizens but i'll tell you. having done the ceremonies, people say, you know, i felt like a second class citizen. now as i say, i'm proud in my 9,500 folks we have done, i have done more than any governor in the history of virginia. and we're going to continue to do this. we want everybody back in voting. and about 65 to 70%, francis, of those folks whose rights restored immediately registered to vote. it warms your heart. it is the right thing to do but we ought to let early voting
occur. if you can't be around on a given tuesday, you ought to be able to go in early and vote. make it easy to vote. that's all we're asking. >> i want to ask you coming to hillary clinton, especially with the e-mail controversy and almost daily developments as of late, does that hurt her among independents? >> well, listen. it is early in the process. we have got a long way to go and until the first primary in caucus events we have next year. i've been out talking about hillary. i've known her for a long time. the woman is very smart. she is very tough. she is strong. i think of all the fields you look at she is the best person to walk into that oval office and assume that job and do what we need as a nation to move people forward, to help the middle class to make sure everybody's sharing in that american dream, to get your hand out to give everybody that opportunity to have a piece of the american dream in this great nation. she can do it. but listen. this is going to be a long, tough campaign. she has to earn it.
no one's giving anybody anything in american politics, especially running for the most important job in the world. she knows it. she's out there with a message. they'll throw a lot of stuff at her. she had it before. she's used to it and going to win. she's got a lot of momentum behind her. look at the folks that she's got on the ground, the endorsements and most importantly she's got a plan to move this nation forward. we are the greatest nation on earth. we're going to take it to the next level and be honest with you, as a father of five children with three daughters, you know what? it's time for a woman to be president of the united states. we have a woman that's strong and smart, experienced and tough and i'll be honest with you, a lot of fun, as well. >> given as you know her, is she going about it all the right way? >> sure she is. listen. every day, you know, i served as her chairman in 2008. i can tell you the rough and tumble of presidential politics, francis, every day it's going to bring something new. this is the business we're in.
i think we have about 19 candidates total somewhere in that area. every day the focus of them is to be attacking hillary clinton. that's okay. she can handle it. she's tough. she gets it. she knew this getting into the race and the end of the day people go into the polling booth and pull that lever, who is it that can sit in the oval office to move this nation forward, who has the respect of people all over the globe? >> okay. >> that's the experience we need. we have to take the nation to the next level. hillary clinton can do that for us. >> you're saying she has to learn it. with bernie sanders surging, seems like that will be the case. thank you very much. >> thanks, francis. still ahead, putting on the pressure. airlines accused of shaming passengers into spending more. how they could be roping you into the extras. developing news of new hampshire, former prop school student on trial for rape. how the case is raising questions of the culture of sex at an elite school.
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flyers rights.org calling out delta airlines for allegedly shaming passengers into spending more money after purchasing a basic economy fare. the passengers' rights group points to a tweet of a warning to face several restrictions including last to board for purchasing a cheaper ticket. joining me is correspondent tom costello. good to see you. this is called upselling? >> yeah. i think the big issue is are the airlines simply being honest and telling you, listen, if you end up buying the cheapest fare possible you're going to be in the back of the bus or the plane as it were and you may not have bin space or is that a pressure tactic to reel in customers with the promises of lower fares and then encouraging them to pay for the extras that add up quickly? better seats, early boarding, et cetera. these passenger rights advocates claim that delta airlines taking it to a new low by they say is something that amounts to
shaming passengers because they would be the last to board and the last to have access to overhead bin space unless they choose the upgrade. so, you know, this is really kind of one those situations where you've got an airline that is trying to clearly trying to maximize profits and revenue and same time trying to be transparent with people saying here's what's going to happen and versus rights groups saying you're trying to shame people into buying the upgrades. delta airlines, we talked to delta, they say what they're doing is providing pricing transparency to customers. they say we do not want anyone to select something that ultimately they did not want to purchase. but of course, consumer rights advocates says transparency only go so far since they don't disclose the additional fees up front. it is kind of a real to and fro
if you will, kind of a battle over what is appropriate behavior for the airlines trying to get you to buy a ticket and yet at the same time offer you additional options. >> right. as if you're not shamed enough with the curtain in first class and see the fancy people getting the cocktails while you're in the back. nbc's tom costello, thank you. >> you bet. next, an update on today's bing pulse on donald trump's immigration plan, asking do you agree with trump's call to end birthright citizenship? weigh in and we'll share your thoughts after the break. and then -- >> give you the mike. >> black lives matter activists targeting bernie sanders on the campaign trail. i'll speak with an organizer asking for a face to face meeting. i called for help as soon as i saw her. i found her wandering miles from home. when the phone rang at 5am, i knew it was about mom. i see how hard it's been on her at work and i want to help.
hampshire. portions of it were released exclusively last night on the rachel maddow show and pressed clinton on how to bolster the movement and change the hearts and minds of americans. >> i don't believe you change hearts. i believe you change laws. you change aloe case of resources. you change the way systems operate. you're not going to change every heart. you're not. >> my colleague melissa harris-perry spoke to two activists last night and said clinton's answers just weren't sufficient. >> what we're looking for from second cl secretary clinton is responsibility for being part of the cause of this problem we have of mass incarceration and so her response really targeting on policy wasn't sufficient for us. >> joining me now on the phone from martha's vineyard is an activist with black lives
matter. thanks for your time. and you heard what the secretary said. why aren't you satisfied with that? >> i think there's an opportunity for us to have really focused conversations about policies and platforms that will change the structure out systems that impact people's lives, especially in blackness. mass incarceration is a huge part of the work that affects people. i think what we're interested in all of the candidates reflecting on their perspective, right, and helping us understand the views that shape the way they think about how the government interacts with people. looking forward to seeing hillary's platform around criminal justice. she is getting feedback and that is good. >> we have seen disruptions of activists interrupting speeches of bernie sanders, other democratic candidates, as well. why going after the democrats so hard on this now? >> yeah. i think the framing is off.
not that people are going after anybody. they're expected to be heard and it is unfortunate that people frame it as going after. it is people choosing to participate in politics and protests and that's a political act. >> well -- >> it is civil disobedience? >> specifically on the democratic side, i know that there were some interruptions recently but as we're looking at the video of bernie sanders, is it specifically to those on the left? >> yeah. i think this is early. remember the election's not for another year and as gop side comes together i think that people are more asked of the candidates. we understand there will be a president, a next president and everybody running should be held accountable for their perspective and the platforms they put forth. again, it is early and people are starting on the side that has the most substance right now in terms of a platform and see o'malley's platform is strong and beginning of sanders
platform and heard from hillary in the speeches but other side we have not heard much yet and might be one of the reasons why people haven't been as aggressive with asking questions of that side but it is not that people will not. >> you had a twitter exchange of bernie sanders and meeting with him. what is it that you're expecting the hear that's different from the other times that he's spoken and addressed black lives matter? >> good question. you know, it will not be just me that meets with senator sanders. hopefully we can figure out how to take the draft to the next phase, right? it's a lot of commitments he's made that are high level. and hopefully the platform he releases is clear about the laws he plans to put in place or on right now he wants to support in draft mode. i think there are a whole host of names of policing and criminal justice really important. you know? sanders has a background of economic justice and interested
to see what that means in practice. the bar is o'malley's platform of criminal justice is really strong. >> very quickly, you said it's early in the campaign season and plan to approach other candidates, as well. when is donald trump on that list? >> you know, you know, i don't have a magic ball but i anticipate that the pressure will be on all the candidates. >> okay. thank you very much for the call. >> yep. talk to you later. george zimmerman is using celebrity to raise funds for andy, a florida gun store owner and sued by the chapter of islamic relations after declaring the store a muz lick-free zone. his canvas painting 0 of a confederate flag will be auctioned off. prints are being sold for $50. zimmerman's last painting sold or ebay over $100,000. according to the gun store website, proceeds will support both zimmerman's and the gun
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developing right now at this hour, jurors are at new hampshire's st. paul's school rocked by an alleged rape case. they'll tour the area where a former student allegedly raped a 15-year-old last year. he's pleaded not guilty to all charges. opening st opening statements in this case began this morning. here's what the prosecutor says happened. >> she tried to say no. she tried to use her physical conduct to indicate this was not consensual. but beyond that, she didn't find the words to handle the situation and stop it from going further. >> again, he has pleaded not guilty to all charges. he's pleaded not guilty. alleged rape raising questions about an aalleged culture of sex
on the elite campus. alumni including john kerry and robert mueller. joining me here in studio, criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor and host of "the docket." always good for your perspective. >> thank you. >> we consider the court documents show a counselor told police about a, quote, horrible tradition at the boarding school called the senior salute. >> right. >> in which a senior e-mails a younger student regarding a conquest before they graduate. you have the tradition and we don't know how many years it goes back. how crucial is that? >> crucial. which is why prosecutors bring former classmates and current classmates to show evidence of this senior salute contest as well as e-mails. i reportedly the defendant e-mailed the victim on may 28th just a few days before the incident asking her to accept this proposal, this date, to
meet up. she finally accepted but when she accepted, francis, she accepted just to kiss or makeout. and as you know, the law says basically you can say yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. up until the point you say no and it's no. >> with the understanding was e-mail knowing that this was part of that tradition. >> yes. yes. that's exactly what they're -- both sides i think concede that this tradition existed but the tradition existing is only like the foundation. why they got there. why they both parties were where they were alleged to have been. >> hearing from the school. they're saying in part, current allegations about our culture are not emblematic of our school or our values, our rules or the people who represent our school and faculty. can they be culpable for anything else that happened? >> that's a great question. the school has a duty to the students and if there's a breach
of that duty they can be held liable but more so in the civil sense, francis. as opposed to the criminal case which is this criminal case. >> well a lot to be seen, especially with the defendant expected to testify, as well. >> both of them will testify. >> criminal defense seama, a lot to watch. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> catch seema on "the docket." we are following this story. rosie o'donnell's teenaged daughter is missing. according to a post, chelsea last spotted in new york a week ago today. she says chelsea left home with the therapy dog, both seen in this tweet from o'donnell with the number of the police. o'donnell claims the daughter may be off medication and need medical attention. joining me from los angeles is melanie bromley. thank you for being with us. tell us the latest on the disappearance. >> she released a statement
appealing to the public to help her in finding her daughter and a good description of chelsea in order that we can help. she describes that she was wearing a black hoodie and dark ripped jeans last time she was seen when she left her house which, of course, was a week ago and also with her dog called bear and so rosie trying to as much bring attention to this. >> really hope for the public's help here as rosie o'donnell's going through a tough time with her missing daughter. thank you very much. >> of course. still ahead, holy hops. how do you commemorate the pope's first visit to the united states? how about creating a cold one? you'll meet a brewer behind the new breer beer. you only pope once. first an update on the bing pulse. our question, do you agree with trump's call to end birthright
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fire. today the u.s. military is answering an urgent call for help sending 200 troops to fight dozens of blazes burning in several states. an estimated 95 infernos raging across idaho, oregon, california and washington. >> it was heartbreaking. it -- i don't like -- i mean, i'm standing in my backyard. i'm looking at this whole hillside. and people that we know that we love. i'm getting phone calls from people saying, can you see if my house is on fire. >> weather later this week expected to help quell the flames. changing gears, jesus' first miracle was turning water into wine and next month a beer brewer is hoping the hops will have mass appeal. releasing in a limited edition beer called yopo. aka, you only pope once.
the company says the brew isn't just a crafty marketing strategy but they actually say, hey, it tastes pretty good. try it. from new jersey, ryan krill, president and co-owner of the cape may brewing companies. cheers to you coming about with this yopo here. to get inspiration, how that came about from pope francis' visit. >> we were inspired so have him come. i was raised catholic and went to a catholic university and it's a big occasion for him to come to the u.s. and why not do something in his honor? >> talk about this. i wish we could taste it. i heard it goes well with argentinian beef. >> it's a light beer. we did a lot of research on the pope and interests and turns out he's more of a wine guy than he is a beer guy.
research found that the beer he does like to drink is very lite so what we decided to do is brew a light, pale ale. we wanted to get argentinian hops but by the time it went through the approval process for the u.s. it would be too long. we landed on a very hoppy pale ale. >> is that kind of comparable to a blue moon? i love blue moon with a lemon wedge or a sam summer? like that? >> no, no, no. not at all. way more flavorful. the hops provide a citrus and spiciness to the beer and that's what makes it so great to pair with the pep pepiness of the steak. >> when the pope was in italy, somebody brought him a pizza. any chance to bring him a bottle or a cold one in the philadelphia leg of the visit? >> there will be no greater
honor than to have a beer or at least a sip of beer with the pope. >> i'm sure that will be great. and if not, many of us will raise one for you and cheers to you, ryan. to the yopo. thank you very much and good luck with it. >> cheers. >> cheers. oh, hey! look at that. holding that the whole time. cheers to you. cheers to us as we wrap things up for today's show. see you back here tomorrow 1:00 p.m. eastern as thomas is still away. until then, keep the conversation going on social media. ari melber has the coverage next. you're watching msnbc.
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hit a halfway point. the senate must weigh in by september 17th. now, while senators are, of course, out of town on recess, there's no vacation from debate. nbc's frank thoerp is counting every vote. it has the backing of 34 senators. the president needs to keep the chamber overriding the veto of any deal. it hit 33 today with a top democrat announcing his opposition. >> this is one of most serious national security, nuclear nonproliferation arms control issues of our time. it is not an issue of supporting or opposing the president. this issue is much greater and graver than that. and we should make it absolutely clear that we want a deal. but we want the right deal. i will vote to disapprove the agreement and if called upon
would vote to override a veto. >> another strike against the president and he is reportedly lobbying democrats for more votes during his vacation. the math still favors the president here. he needs to find 13 more votes basically from his own party while republicans trying to build a super majority of 67 to stop the agreement. and that is why even gop majority leader mcconnell is conceding the deal has, quote, a great likelihood of success. now, for more on the ground, we are joined by nbc's luke russert in washington. they offer favor diplomacy over more hawkish alternatives. what are you hearing? >> i think you're right, ari. i think what mitch mcconnell said there is probably right, as well. if for this deal to be stopped in its tracks you'd roughly need about 25% of congressional democrats to