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beautiful, beautiful stones. they are so great. so beautiful. they are huge. that does it for us. we'll see you again monday. "weekends with alex witt" starts now. stopped in its tracks, apparent terror attack thwarted on a train in france. why two american military personnel are heroes. market madness. the dow poepss its worst week after friday. what can we expect on monday. >> if it rains i'll take off my hat and i'll prove -- i'll prove -- i'll prove once and for all that it's mine. okay. >> big turnout. presidential hopeful donald trump draws his biggest crowd yet down south. we'll hear from some of the people who came to see him. and war of words, tensions rise between north and south korea, could a meeting today stave off potential military conflict.
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good morning everyone. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." alex is off. here's what's happening. developing now, police are questioning witnesses and looking for a motive after a shooting attack in france is cut short by two american service members. a gunman opened fire aboard a train traveling to paris friday afternoon wounding a french passenger. that's when u.s. air force member spencer stone and national guardsman alec s krk arloto sprang into action. >> ran a good 10 meters to get to the guy and we didn't know that his gun wasn't working or anything like that. spencer just ran anyway and if anybody would have gotten shot it would have been spencer for sure. we're very lucky nobody got killed especially spencer. >> stone was wounded while disarming the suspect slashed on the neck and hand. another american college student anthony sadler and british citizen jumped in to help.
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>> just a college student, it's my last year in college. i came to see my friends in my first trip to europe. we stopped a terrorist. kind of crazy. >> the four were awarded medals from the mayor. stone is in the hospital and expected to go into surgery. the alleged attacker is in custody. witnesses captured photos of an unidentified man believed to be the suspect bound and lying on the train platform. later, being carried off by men who appear to be police, anti-terror authorities have taken over the investigation but officials say it is still too soon to determine a motive. last night fellow passengers expressed gratitude for the american heroes. >> they did what they are trained to do without even thinking about -- really not each thinking that we're on holiday or we're not in the u.s., we just -- this is what we do. and they saw a threat and they helped to divert it. >> let's bring in now a former
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a awe salt helicopter pilot. so first of all, you are a member of the military. would you expect military personnel to jump in and subdue an attacker? >> i've got to say it's a high expectation. what i would say is that the courage and the bravery of those two gentlemen prevented a catastrophe. i'm talking about on the scale of the not greater than tunisia. this is different in the fact that it was a beach, you could run to various parts of the beach. and escape. this is a contained. this is a fwhan an ak-47, a powerful assault weapon going crazy in the train carriage or two or three. the consequences would have been pretty horrific had these two gentlemen not jumped in. so that's the first thing. the second thing is that believe it or not, we're not all trained
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in unarmed combat. there is an air force chap there, he may have been an engineer. so it involved immense courage and bravery to get over that. but i think post-9/11 we now live in a world where it is incumbent on all of us in some way, small or big, to counter this threat of terrorism, global terrorism. i think that's what we saw. i think people are stepping up to the plate because if you don't, then the services, the authorities, the police authorities, the security forces, they won't always be therend a can't always be there because of the nature of the threat. >> you bring up a good point about jumping in, but we do know that he had like that rifle, he had a gun. would military personnel naturally like how would they do this bare handed? would they have been more reluctant in a different circumstance? >> i think it depends on the individual. i think it depends on the individual experience in the military. as i said earlier, if it was an engineer for example, that
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engineer is probably not going to have much experience in unarmed combat. more averse to putting engines in airplanes. it depends what the individual's experience has. also the personality of the individual and the circumstances of which they are intervening. the reports are that they heard the assailant in the toilet basically arming the rifle and putting bullets in. so i think it was pretty -- i think it was great, and you know, showed great foresight to actually identify the threat as early as they did, before the assailant had a chance to start opening rounds on people. that to me the prevention rather than cure threat is something i think is very important to preventing what could have been a horrific tragedy. >> let's talk about that prevention. is there security on these trains? what is the security situation in europe? >> it's broader than trains. we look back to charlie help due one of the huge problems not just security in europe but preventing migration of foreign fighters to syria for example
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it's all about porous borders. if you want to jump on the euro star you have to go through airport type checks, show your passport, go through scanners to get on the train at kings cross and into paris. if the you want to go from paris to south of france or paris to amsterdam or paris to anywhere outside of france but in the contains of the european union it's pretty easy. you jump on a train and you go from a to b. and it's virtually impossible, i would say, for security forces to be able to monitor every single person going on those trains. it's logistically impossible to set up security type checks for train checks of people traveling across europe. that's the problem we've got and it's incumbent on all of us, whether it's in a small way, through eyes and ears listening, reporting, picking up the phone if you see something odd, all the way through to what these two chaps did and actually getting involved and assaulting someone to prevent a catastrophe. it's a broad spectrum.
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i wouldn't advocate everyone doing what these gentlemen did but in this case it was very important. >> ask and heroes indeed. mike kay, thank you for waeg in on this. you'll hear more from witnesses coming up in a report from london at the bottom of the hour. wall street investors are taking the weekend to catch their breath, it was a day for the bears friday as the dow jones industrial average plunged more than 530 points. the dow capped the market's worst week in four years. let's bring in business editor jason abrusy. what does this mean for the the average american whose only connection to the market may be a retirement plan. >> sure. it's hard to not be a little freaked out by a drop like that if you know you have a lot of your retirement in stocks. it's something that i think people have a tough time not watching on a day-to-day basis. if you are looking for a broader idea of what to watch now i think that people have enjoyed many years, four to five years of consistent gains in the stock
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market. a lot of times that's not as news making as a plunge like this. so at the same time, if you're watching the market every day you probably are saying this is probably a long time coming, we've seen many, many years without a correction like this. but if you are just tuning in now, it can seem scary. >> the whole week was a bit of a wild ride. what led to the big drop on friday? >> we've seen a few factors that people have been pointing to. one of the big ones is instability in china. china's main stock market and main index has fallen much more sharply than ours has. their main shanghai composite is down about 30% from its peak. that's primarily due to the fact its stock market has shot up and you know, a lot of investors have been warning that was overvalued. on top of that there's people who are worried about just further economic problems in china. it's the second largest economy in the world. it's been one of the growth drivers of the world's economy.
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it looks like it's slowing down and people aren't sure how much. that causes a lot of insecurity, a lot of worry and causes investors to get jumpy and start selling off on high risk assets like stocks. >> finance reporters are calling this market correction. what does that mean exactly? >> sure. market correction is kind of any time we see a dip around 10%. it's kind of saying that asset prices can go up too much, they can go down too much. if they go up too much people assume there's time for a correction. the market doesn't move just up and to the right. it's going up, it's going to go down. you home you take two steps forward and one step back. >> well, let's hope that monday brings a higher bounce to the stock market. thank you so much for being here. appreciate it. >> sure thing. politics and donald trump taking his new york accent to the deep south. trump drew a crowd of about 20,000 people in mobile, alabama last night. he stuck to his theme of making
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america great again. trump told the crowd how well whaes doing in the south and in florida the home stayed of two of his rivals, jeb bush and marco rubio. >> leading big in florida, and you know it's amazing. i said well florida, i love florida, it's a great place. right? right. but florida, we have a governor and we have a sitting senator and i'm killing them. explain that. obviously they are not doing a very good job because that shouldn't be happening. >> nbc's alley vatelly is in mobile. how was trump received there? >> reporter: good morning. it's bright and early here in mobile. but there was a huge crowd like you said last night. stadium officials estimated to me about 20,000 like you said. but either way the stadium was about half full. that was shy of the number the campaign was expecting yesterday afternoon which they told me was
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about 40,000. still, the stadium was about half full like i said. toward the front and around the first half where trump was speaking people were packed in, signs, streamers, lots of excitement and cheering. the back half was as i said more empty. excited crowd, people were excited to hear trump be his usual trump self in unfiltered rhetoric. he commented on how excited they were as he was leaving, kept saying wow, wow. i know in new hampshire he was making similar remarks saying these are my people and they are so passionate and excited. i think he is thriving off the energy of that crowd. i made a football analogy when we were in new hampshire earlier in the week i said wow, it feels more like a football stadium than it does a political event. little did i know we ended up in a football stadium a few days later. >> that was a good move since he had such a large crowd. question for you. do we know if the donald uses a
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teleprompter or his speeches appear very off the cuff. are they written and prepared or is he winging it out there? >> reporter: it seems to us, we had similar questions, at least i did when i first started covering him. but seems a preplan stream of consciousness, there are consistent themes and refrains, new ways of getting between ideas but one of the things we hear is this story about that bills co, i think we have sound of. >> the other day nabisco, oreos, right, i love oreos, i'll never eat them again. okay. i'll never eat them again. no, nabisco closes a plant they announced, in chicago, and they are moving the plant to mexico. why? why? >> reporter: so definitely hearing the first time you hear oreo mentioned in a political speech and a candidate making a
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promise i won't eat oreos, my ears perked up. that's an example of the stream of consciousness and meandering between thoughts we're used to hearing from donald trump though he does hit some of the similar themes, immigration, national security, veterans, things of that nature in his speeches. he has a different way getting there. in terms of being a little more unscripted he was supposed to do with the press and they left so he stood us up. >> he stood you up. thanks so much for that report. moving on, bordering on war, well, officials from north and south korea are meeting this morning in an evident to avert potential military conflict. the latest in a live report from a tense border.
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developing now. a new push for calm as tensions remain high between north and south korea. officials from both countries are meeting at the border in attempt the defuse the volatile situation. north korea ordered troops to be battle ready after demanding south korea and its loud speaker propaganda broadcasts along the border. south korea said those would continue for the timing. ian williams is near the south korea border. what can you tell us about these talks? >> reporter: good morning. those talks are about two miles up the street behind me. very high level, now into their third hour which in itself is remarkable. the north hasn't walked out which they have frequently done in the past. what's so significant is the level taking part in these talks.
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advisers of kim jong-un, officials here in the south. significant as well is appears these talks were initially at the request of the north late friday. the south said yes -- that we can do business with. that appears to have -- those talks are ongoing. this border area remains very tense. villages have been evacuated. they are in shelters tonight, bomb proof shelters. we drove down roads lined with heavy artillery in the south, ready. equally of course, north korea, kim jong-un said his army is in a quasi state of war. to unleash them if the south doesn't stop these broadcasts which they have said of course that they won't, dara. >> ian williams reporting from south korea.
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we apologize for the audio drop-outs going on there. thank you so much. investigators search for a motive in the deli shooting at a federal building in new york city. police say on friday an army veteran walked in and opened fire killing a security guard before turning the gun on himself. agents searched the home for clues. 68-year-old kevin downing was a former employee at the federal bureau of labor statistics. newly released documents show management at the epa were aware of the potential for a catastrophic blow-out at an abandoned mine. they unleashed 3 million gallons of contaminated waste water august 5. among the documents is a june 2014 work order for a planned cleanup that noted the mine had not been accessible since 1995 when the entrance partly collapsed. the subsequent may 2015 action plan for the mine also notes the potential for a blow-out. peaceful protests in charlotte, north carolina after
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a judge declared a mistrial in the case of a white police officer charged in the death of an unarmed black man. it happened after a jury became deadlocked. january a than farrell was killed. he banged on a door apparently seeking help. the resident called police and three officers responded. dash cam video shows the 24-year-old walking toward police, after orders to stop and police pointing their tasers, farrell began running toward the officers. the officer fired 12 shots. farrell was hit ten times. >> thought i was going to die. >> i feel i got to keep fighting. we must get justice. >> we review the trial transcript, any other evidence in the case and fully consider our options regarding this case. >> officer kerik may be retried. it's up to the prosecutor to make that decision. now to weather. it is clear skies in the northeast but that is not going to last for long. storms in the midwest will be breaking out this afternoon, but
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what about the tropics? the weather channel's kelly cass is here with the headlines. good morning to you, kelly. >> good morning to you, dara. it's looking like another busy weekend here. of course we're going to be watching out for the threat of severe storms across minnesota toward des moines, we have the state fair of iowa going on. there could be strong winds. can't rule out the possibility of seeing twisters out there. 40 to 30% of tornados from nebraska all the way into northern minnesota. the main threat will be strong winds and the possibility of large hail, strong winds are blowing behind this cold front as well. northeast, not so bad here for the most part from albany down the hudson valley toward new york. cape cod looking wet at times, up along the coast of maine as well. can't rule out showers, maybe rumbles of thunder. then more rain, heavy at times even in boston on down toward hartford. the red sox at home so that may impact the game there tomorrow. scattered showers and
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thunderstorms throughout the southeast, can't rule it out it's so sticky out there. very warm with temperatures in the upper 80s to low 90s. and of course we're also keeping an eye on the tropics with hurricane danny, fortunately weakening, though, as it continues to head west ward into puerto rico and the leeward islands. hopefully we get much-needed rain. >> kelly cass predicting umbrella time. thanks so much. next, a look inside that hurricane, what scientists hope to learn when they fly inside the eye of the storm. like we haf sea monster in the water hazard here. i believe that's a "kraken", bruce. it looks like he's going to go with a nine iron. that may not be enough club... well he's definitely going to lose a stroke on this hole. if you're a golf commentator, you whisper. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. this golf course is electric...
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meteorologists by surprise. during our 10-hour flight, hurricane danny strengthened into a category 3 which was not in the forecast, then it weakened later to a category 2. and as we discovered for ourselves, in vivid detail, the fiercest part of the storm is just outside of the eye. the perilous journey began under clear skies, and after meticulous planning, churning 600 miles offshore hurricane danny's right now the world's fiercest storm. noaa hurricane hunters are flying through the middle. satellites can track movement and size but for more accurate data the hunters sample the storms directly. >> the data showing that the storm is stronger than we predicted. the wind speeds at flight level were about 125 miles an hour. and at the surface were about
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115 miles an hour, making hurricane danny a category 3. >> this is why we put airplanes into hurricanes, because this gives us the best picture of really what's going on. >> ian is the quarterback of the elite team of pilots and scientists and engineers. >> most aircraft in the world avoid the weather, we seek it out and fly through it. >> reporter: a former naver aviator this is the co-pilot's first hurricane. >> in the navy did they tell to you go into the bad weather? >> no. >> how do you feel you did? you didn't crash the plane. >> well, we're having this conversation so i must have done all right. >> reporter: weather sensors or dropsons are critical to the mission. measuring factors like wind speed, direction, humidity and ocean temperature. predicting nature's most destructive and costly storms.
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successful first flight into hurricane danny a clear picture of a monster. the noaa hurricane hunters will fly through the storm every 12 hours until monday morning because the storm can intensify or weaken unpredictably as we saw for ourselves. there are no tropical or coastal warnings or watches as of yet, but some are expected later today. alex. >> jacob rascon from barbados. you can hear more about donald trump at his rally in alabama last night. also more on his poll numbers coming up. how long can his lead last? plus, ted cruz goes up against the star of juno over same-sex marriage. you'll see the exchange. ♪
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♪ [ female announcer ] everything kids touch at school sticks with them. make sure the germs they bring home don't stick around. use clorox disinfecting products. you handle life; clorox handles the germs. welcome back to "weekends with alex witt." developing now, this morning french president called the american service members credited with stopping
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yesterday's shooting attack on a paris-bound train. president holland expressioned gratitude for their courage and said he would receive them at the palace this week. joining me from london with the latest is nbc news kelly cobiella. what are you hearing about what happened on that train? >> reporter: just some incredible details. this was a packed train at the height of tourist season, traveling from paris to amsterdam when gun shots rang out. witnesses said it was absolutely terrifying, one passenger from chicago telling us a bullet whizzed past her head. thanks to the quick thinking and bravery of three americans and a british businessman no one was killed. a gunman with an automatic weapon opens fire on a packed train. it could have been carnage. only two were injured. thanks to three brave americans, two of them u.s. military service members. national guardsman alex seen
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here in the middle and his air force friend spencer stone, moved first. >> i saw a guy entering the train with an ak and handgun. i just looked over at spencer and said let's go, go. spencer got to the guy first. grabbed the guy by the neck, and i grabbed the handgun. got the handgun away from the guy and threw it. and then i grabbed the ak which was at his feet. >> reporter: the train stopped in the french town of arras. the gunman is now in french kuls towed. police gathered bags of evidence, while the french mayor handed out medals for bravery and president obama hailed their, quote, heroic actions. >> in the aftermath we saw that a man's throat had been slit. he was bleeding profusely and spencer who has some paramedic
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training, just clogged up his neck so he wouldn't die. he was losing blood. >> reporter: another attack that could have had a different ending. back at home relief. >> he leaves here a young man on an excursion to have fun with his buddies and comes back a france national hero. still wrapping my head around that. >> reporter: his friend spencer stone is still in the hospital this morning. he is expected to recover. he had some cuts. so is the passenger he helped to save. the french interior minister said this morning they are not ready to identify the suspect, but he's believed to be a 26-year-old of moroccan origin who may have traveled to syria, the french interior minister said he had handgun, automatic rifle, nine magazines and a knife. he was only able to fire that handgun. >> kelly, thanks so much.
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we'll follow this throughout the day. now to the west. wild fires are growing this morning with almost 29,000 firefighters battling 100 large fires across the west. 3,000 of them are in washington state where people are being forced from their homes. leanne gregg is in washington where president obama declared a state of emergency. lianne, how are the firefighters going to gain control over these fires? >> reporter: dara, today the conditions are greatly improved from the windy conditions for the last three days. so, they will be back on the lines trying to build containment lines and the aerial assault will continue in force today because the wind did limit that. evacuees are out of their homes still, thousands of new evacuees left wondering if their homes are among those destroyed. they know they lost homes, at this point they don't know how many. more than 5,000 homes are being
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threatened. firefighters on the front lines battling both fire and wind. they thought they saved this home in eastern washington, but the winds turned, re-igniting the flames. ferocious 40-mile-an-hour gusts forced new evacuations. 35,000 fled their homes, officials know houses burned. how many is unknown. winds not only fueled flames but hinders respond with pilots making limited drops in blinding conditions. >> it makes it very difficult if not impossible to use aviation resources on a day like this. >> reporter: a wind-whipped blaze wednesday turned deadly when it reversed 180 degrees. crews and two vehicles were trying to flee on this road near twisp washington. one escaped. another fell, killing three firefighters. richard wheeler, a 10-year veteran leaves a wife.
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andrew, and tom, only 20, an only child set to return to college next week. because of scarce resources and man power help is coming from abroad. a contingent from new zealand and australia this weekend and for the first time the state is asking volunteers to operate heavy equipment. alex spent thousands to buy his own fire truck, hoping to help protect homes in his community in his spare time. >> we can save one person's home this is worth it. so here we are. >> reporter: extraordinary measures during this relentless fire season. leanne gregg, nbc news, paeteros, washington. >> the department of natural resources, i mentioned for the first time is asking for volunteers, 3,000 people responded so far and today, 200 of them who know how to operate heavy equipment will be training in how to use their skills to integrate those into what the firefighters need. that's the latest.
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>> thanks so much for that report. turning to politics. the turnout much smaller than donald trump predicted but the brash billionaire expected so many people that hills campaign moved to a rally to a college stadium, a college football stadium. katy tur was among the crowd in alabama. >> reporter: donald trump taking the stage to a sea of supporters. hitting jeb bush and hillary clinton right out of the gate. >> now i don't know that she's going to make it to the gate. trump or bush. >> reporter: along with his push to change the 14th amendment getting rid of a law giving citizenship to babies of undocumented immigrants. >> you can do something with it and you can do something fast. >> reporter: while he didn't get the 40,000 person turnout this stadium could hold or the campaign had hoped for, instead about half that, it was the biggest republican rally by far this political season. >> unbelievable. >> reporter: the curious braving
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90-degree heat and air so thick you could cut with it a knife waiting for hours to see front and center the man front and center of the republican party. >> also drove from mississippi to get here. >> he's not afraid of anybody. >> and he's going to eventually take them all to the right. >> trump himself arriving in his 757, buzzing the stadium twice. he left with less punch. standing up a room full of reporters awaiting his scheduled news conference. not an early state trump did come to alabama for a reason. hometown republican senator jeff sessions who came out to support trump friday night, helped trump frame his immigration platform. back in 2011, alabama passed and the courts overturned the harshest immigration law on the books. >> immigration is that a big topic? >> yes. >> why? >> it's bringing down wages for people, i mean it's hurting the very people the democratic party are supposed to represent.
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>> if it rains i'll take off my hat and i'll prove -- >> if anyone needed a sign that trump was rattling the establishment all heed that to do was look to the sky where a banner plane reading trump 4 higher taxes, jeb for president. for today, katy tur, nbc news, mobile, alabama. >> joining me now "washington post" political reporter phillip, thanks for being here. we know you wrote an article yesterday you used the latest poll numbers to gauge donald trump's sustainability. what is the feeling of support once-field is winowed. >> it's hard to say. there are 17 candidates, donald trump is heads and shoulders above them in part because there are so many. he has core support of about 25% that holds across a lot of demographics but we've seen that it's dipped a little bit in the more recent polling. there is this big contingent
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that don't like him and aren't going to vote for him. we saw in the recent polling a dip in the number of people who saw him as second choice. as people start dropping out it will be interesting where the support goes. >> donald trump and jeb bush are not backing down from using the term anchor baby. is there a way to get a checkow damaging the use of this term will be for the republican party but more specifically for someone like jeb bush who has tried to maintain his latino friendly image. >> i think it's absolutely not what jeb bush wanted to do this week. he spent most of the week trying to separate himself from donald trump, position himself and used the expression in a radio broadcast which was contrary to recommendationings that he'd made with a group, you know, the republican party after 2012 when mitt romney lost, they spent a lot of time trying to figure out how to reach out to his span in voters. they saw candidates like jeb bush as a way. this is not what they wanted him to do at this point in time. >> politico reports that vice president joe biden bet a group
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at his home on thursday. what are you hearing about how he is assessing a late entry into the race. is this a possibility? >> i think it's been a possibility for some time. and i think that it's very hard to get inside joe biden's head on this. a lot of people tried to do so and done so unsuccessfully. i think if he does decide to run it's bad for hillary clinton. first of all, they share the same bails of support so she going to eat into her lead. second, it shows that he thinks she can be beat. that's not the message she wants to send out right now. >> thank you for your insight. black lives matter movement on the trail. what will confronting the candidates produce? cordell william brooks joins us next. 800,000 hours of supercomputing time, 3 million lines of code, 40,000 sets of eyes, or a million sleepless nights. whether it's building the world's most advanced satellite, the space station, or the next leap in unmanned systems.
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on the other, the naacp members and supporters embarked on an 860 mile march from selma, alabama to the capitol. what it calls america's journey for justice. let's bring in cornell william brooks, the president and ceo of the naacp. i appreciate you taking the time to be here. we last spoke to you august 1 when your march started out from selma toward the nation's capitol. the marchers are in north augusta, south carolina 350 miles in. what have you learned about the mood of the community along the way? >> one of the things we learned is that people are stunningly amazingly optimistic about the country and about the prospects of reform. so we now actually -- we've crossed 400-mile mark. so nearly halfway there. in 104 degree heat, 114-degree heat index. extraordinarily hot and humid. what have we seen? we have seen people cheering, blowing horns, 250 marchers in
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rural georgia, in rural south carolina. pressioni pressing our way, to press for reform at a critical moment. so we are pushing hard under the banner our lives our votes our jobs and our schools matter. we are pushing for criminal justice reform, our communities are safer and our police officers are safer. and what i find interesting is all along the way we have seen countless troopers, police officers, dedicating themselves to ensure that we are in fact safe because there are people who do not like the work of the naacp and its allies. even as we're pressing for an end to racial profiling, so we are encouraged, we're not discouraged by any means. >> your march will take you through south carolina. you won't go through charleston but i wanted to ask you about action being taken there by the city's school district, it's banning imagery of the
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confederate flag from school grounds, this comes of course in the wake of the tragic shooting at the emmanuel ame church in june. how big of a step toward understanding is this? >> i think it's significant. i spoke with governor hailly a few days ago. she talked about the need for healing. but i think healing that is taking place in south carolina is emblematic representative of the healing that needs to take place in the country. so when we see young people being profiled on the basis of race, ethnicity and religion, where we see a rising tide of racial tension in our cities and our small towns, taking a small step to remove an emblem of hate and getting it out of the schools, getting it down from in front of the statehouse in south carolina, is a significant step. we need to be clear. as citizens it's not enough to remove symbols, we have to also change laws and bring about
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reform. so the naacp is literally putting boots on the ground that we might put laws on the books, marching 860 miles in the heat of summer is a statement of commitment, think about it this way. when a congress person receives an e-mail, they understand it's an indication of concern. when they receive a handwritten letter, that's a more serious statement of concern. our 860-mile march is a love letter to the country. it is a statement that we believe in this country and we want to bring about fundamental reform into the voting rights, krermnal justice reform, investing in our schools and of course addressing income inequality. we're attracting hundreds of people, we expect to bring thousands in to washington, and this is a critical moment. where we see instance after instance of racial profiling, we'll see the voting rights act under assault, where we see americans taking to the streets, in their towns in the communities, this is a moment
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for us to call possible the best in the country and call upon our citizens to actually do something. it's not enough to merely complain about something. we've got to take a a stand and take a step forward. >> we're running out of time, but i want to ask you this one last question. we want to talk about the black lives matter protests happening across the country. they're disrupting appearances of the presidential candidates, bernie sanders, martin o'malley and jeb bush. what do you think of these disruptions? >> disruption is a first step, but ultimately we have to move to dialogue and debate and actual change. so the point being here is that not one of the republican presidential candidates has spoken to the need to restore and reinvigorate the voting rights act. that's a point of debate. and so the naacp and our partners, we're going beyond disruption to actually call for
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debate, dialogue, call for a vote on, in fact, strengthening the voegt rights act. that's where we've got to go. disruption stops the conversation. we've got to go beyond stopping the conversation and actually making the conversation more robust. >> cornell williams brooks, i thank you so much for your time. i appreciate you being here. >> thank you, alex. the alleged victim in the prep school rape trial provides emotional testimony, but how will the testimony from a nurse influence the jury? that's up next. at ally bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact.
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the former student accused of rape at a prestigious prep school is expected to take the stand next week. owen labrie listened to emotional testimony from the 16-year-old accuser. we have a distorted voice of the accuser and we're not showing her picture. she was 15 at the time of the alleged rape. here is her exchange with the defense attorney. >> why were you cloudy?
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>> i was raped. i was violated in so many ways. of course i was traumatized. [ crying ] i'm sorry. i was cloudy because i was traumatized. >> labrie has pleaded not guilty to all the charges against him. joining me is anne bremner, not affiliated with the case. the defense attorney asked the accuse are about a series of friendly e-mails she exchanged with the accused leading ep to the encounter and then asked about laughing during this encounter. is this an effective way of trying to determine her credibility and how her responses will play to the jury? >> the rule for cross
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examination is be brief, be brilliant, be quiet. you'll get in, get out and score points. if she's laughing during the encounter, that's a good point. you don't want to be too hard. scored a lot of things with her e-mails, things that might indicate consent, that she was a willing participant in this. the bottom line is, she say, you know what, it was nervous laughter. it doesn't have anything to do with saying i agreed. >> the school nurse took the stand and explained what the accuser told her two days later when she asked about the morning after pill. >> did you talk about whether the intercourse was consensual or not? >> yes, i did ask her those questions. she said it was co-sensual, it was not coerced. >> what is this case going to hinge on here? >> there's a laceration of the case. objective evidence consistent with penetration. it's ooh he-said, she-said. if jury thinks she's lying, it's going to be a problem.
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it comes down to her credibility. >> we'll see how this all wraps up. thank you so much for being here anne bremner. this wraps up this hour of weekends with alex witt. page hopkins will be here today at noon eastern. straight ahead, more smart political talk on "up with steve kornacki." everyone loves the picture i posted of you. at&t reminds you it can wait. fedid you know it may be coming? from being on your feet all day? dr. scholl's custom fit orthotic inserts are uniquely designed to provide immediate all day relief
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