tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC August 24, 2015 9:00pm-10:01pm PDT
thank you for joining us. >> thanks, chris. >> that's "all in." the rachel maddow show starts now. good evening, rachel. >> good evening, chris. thanks, my friend. thanks, and thanks for joining us at home. happy monday. about a month ago the government of cuba reopened its embassy in washington and the u.s. reopened the long shut american embassy in cuba. that american flag going up in havana is one of those things that will absolutely make the first paragraph of any history every written about the presidency of barack obama. foreign follows can be copplicated and fraught. most progress in foreign policy is two steps forward, one step back, right? but for just sheer simple symbolism, you cannot beat reopening an embassy. now it's another one, this time in tehran. except this time it's not us. this time it's the british
embassy in iran's capital city. it's also iran's embassy in london. both of those embassies have been shut for the past four years after anti-british protests in the iranian capital in november, 2011, turned violent. anti-british crowds physically attacked the british embassy itself. they tore down lion statues that were in the front of the british embassy in front of the building. they eventually overran that facility. the uk shut down that embassy in tehran. they expelled iranian diplomats and shut down the iranian embassy in london. both the iranian embassy in london and the british embassies in tehran have been shut for the past four years until now. they have just reopened with a little bit of fanfare. just as john kerry flew to havana to oversee the raising of the u.s. flag over our reopened embassy in havana, the brits sent their foreign secretary all the way to iran.
they sent him to tehran to reopen the british embassy there is, as well. well, guess who he brought with him. this is the british foreign secretary, the equivalent of their secretary of state. guess who he brought with him? he brought with him to iran shell oil. he brought with him the vice president of shell oil. shell's executive vice president for commercial and new business development. that guy from shell oil went with the british foreign secretary, philip hammond, on this trip to reopen the british embassy in iran. we're trying to figure out if that guy from shell actually went on the same plane with the british foreign secretary. we think he did. we have asked shell for confirmation on that. shell quite possibly has lost my phone number and has not called me back yet but we'll let you know if they do. that spectacle of the british government literally bringing an oil company with them to reopen their embassy in tehran, there's
nothing subtle about it, right? that spectacle today brings us to the end of president obama's vacation. sort of. president obama did just end his vacation. he was on martha's vineyard. as presidential vacations go, this was very low key. unlike previous vacations, he didn't have to rush back to handle some emergency, he didn't have to roll out the traveling presidential vacation podium and gave some statement on something from a vacation house lawn like he's had to do on previous vacations. no, this was low key. we got one picture of the president wearing a bike helmet and going on a bike ride. you know what? it is absolutely responsible. you have to wear a helmet when you go on a bike ride. it does, however, violate the president putting something on his head rule. unavoidably but there's the president with something on his head.
i'm happy to see the president get two weeks of real r&r. total, total time off. but as of today he is back. he came back to washington today and his first order of business on his first day back from two weeks of vacation was lunch with vice president joe biden. this is a regular thing between the president and vice president. their regular monday lunch dates are apparently part of the deal that joe biden says he made with president obama when he agreed to become his running mate in the first place. but today, ooh, that lunch. right? today speculation reaching fever pitch that vice president biden might himself decide to run for president, and if you ever had the chance to be a fly on the wall at one of those lunches, today is the day you would want to be there, right? we'll have more on the prospects of a joe biden presidential run coming up in a couple minutes on this show. you might have heard today for example that vice president biden filed his fec paperwork to formally start a run for president.
if you heard that today -- that is not true. and the way that rumor turns out to be not true is hilarious. that story is coming up. but president obama upon coming back from vacation today after two weeks, his first order of business was that lunch with joe biden which i would have died to be in on. second order of business was going to las vegas. that's the sort of thing you can do on your first day back from vacation when you have your own plane. >> you don't have to share my passion for fighting climate change. a lot of americans are going solar and becoming more energy efficient not because of tree huggers, although, trees, you know, are important. [ laughter ] just want you to know. but because they're cost cutters. they like saving money. and i'm all for consumers saving money because that means they can spend it on other stuff.
solar isn't just for the green crowd any more, it's for the green eye shade crowd, too. >> president obama speaking tonight. that speech actually just ended in las vegas, nevada. a little while ago. he was in las vegas tonight part of senate democratic leader harry reid's annual client change conference. and actually, the speech from the president tonight in las vegas is just the start of what's going to be a whole week of speeches and events and trips that the president is going to do focusing on the issue of climate. after vegas, he'll go to new orleans to mark the anniversary of the katrina disaster which killed more than 1800 people and swamped a whole coastal swath of the southeastern united states, including the great city of new orleans. president obama will be in new orleans this week to talk about the toll of katrina and new orleans's decade of recovery since that disaster. also talking about the issue of resilient sit against climate change going forward, how the
whole part of the country, how new orleans in particular, is getting beyond just the political debate around climate change. and by necessity getting on with the business of coping with climate change and planning to survive it. from new orleans, president obama will go to alaska. he will visit anchorage and seward, alaska, he will then head way, way north. he'll become the first sitting u.s. president to ever visit the arctic. this is kotzebue, alaska. i think that's how you say the name of it. kotzebue, alaska. it's a community of about 3,300 people in northwest alaska and if you want to talk about resiliency in dealing with the rising seas, kotzebue is about -- it's one of about three dozen communities in alaska that has a fema-approved disaster mitigation plan for coping with the seas rising. with the ocean rising high enough that it basically plans to swallow these villages.
not far from there, is a town that has passed the planning and worrying is taken. they're at the stage where they have to move their community inward away from the rising sea. the obama administration has set aside about $50 million to relocate alaska communities on the coast that will be inundated by the sea as sea levels rise because of climate change. that one town kivalina is moving first and moving that one town alone is already estimated to cost $100 million, which is twice what the federal government has set aside to move all three dozen of those threatened towns. so president obama has a big week. speaking on climate tonight in las vegas then he's off to talk about surviving the next superstorm in new orleans, then he's off to alaska where climate change is already eating towns. and that culmination of this big week in alaska is going to be unavoidably politically awkward for the president because of his own policies affecting that part of the world and the issue he
there's to talk about. while president obama was on vacation, his administration gave the final green light for shell oil to start drilling offshore in the arctic for oil. there's never been deep offshore oil drilling in the arctic like shell is doing up there off the coast of alaska right now. but because the obama administration said they could, shelhas now started that process. depending on how you feel about the arctic and how you feel about shell oil and its many talents, it may feel better or worse to you to have shell drilling in the arctic instead of, say, iran. pick your geopolitical and environmental poison. but which poison you pick will probably be most determined by the other major thing that happened in the world today to welcome president obama back from his vacation. something that was a big enough deal in the world, a big enough deal in this country, at least
that it warranted an nbc news special report that interrupted ellen degeneres. it was that is serious. i know. >> i have my own site, it's called ellen tube. [ cheers and applause ] it's only been up for a few months but it's the number one video site with my name on it. so -- [ cheers and applause ] you know what's great about ellentube is that the content is fun for your whole family. >> this is an nbc news special report. here's lester holt. and we come on at the end of a very busy and volatile trading day at the new york stock exchange, closing bell rings right now after a three and a half point dropoff. the dow finishing below 586 after going as low as -- below a thousand points at one point early this morning.
several attempts at a late-day come back but started dropping again with the last few minutes and again, the dow jones industrial average now down three and a half, 568.13, the nasdaq and s&p made similar falls today this selloff which began last week on fears of what's happening in china. >> that was an nbc news special report today cutting into all of the other nbc broadcasts around the country. that was broadcast around the country at 4:00 eastern time to mark a remarkable and remarkably bad day in the markets as the closing bell rang on the new york stock exchange at 4:00 p.m. lester holt saying it was 586 points. by the time everything settled it was 588 points off the dow today. this dropoff today, it was a global thing, worries about the chinese economy seemed to be driving most of it and the chinese stock market and shanghai took the hardest hit. it dropped 8.5%. that would be the equivalent of our dow jones dropping 1400
points today. the dow did not drop that much but it did drop 588 points. which is a lot. this is the third consecutive day on which the dow has lost hundreds of points each day. if you add up the point loss over the past three days, thursday, friday, and then today that is the biggest point drop over three days ever in the history of the dow. and one of the things that is bottoming out as markets plummet around the world and here at home, one of the things that's bottoming out is oil. oil prices have been dropping anyway all summer long. there's just more supply than there is demand but with this current routing in the markets, international and u.s. oil prices are the lowest they have been as of today in more than six years. oil is selling at less than $40 a barrel. the lowest since february, 2009, which is the month after president obama was sworn into office. if you remember what was going at that time in the world and the economy, that can be a little unsettling. we're not getting back to that, are we?
because, yeah, oil prices have been dropping generally. part of the reason they have fallen through the floor today, they've fallen to a six-year low today, below $40 a barrel, is because of worries not just about how much oil is being drilled and where, but about whether big economies like, say, china, might be slowing down enough that demand for oil, demand for energy of all kinds is about to plummet simply because economies are about to tank. whether or not you followed the stock market, right? whether or not you've got money in the stock market it's one thing to have a little wiggle in the market, a little shimmy in the market. it's another thing to see the markets wiggling and squirming and freaking out because the markets are worried about a slowdown in civilization. it's one thing to see them happening inside the financial world, it's another thing to see the financial world freak out about the real world.
so, as the president comes back from his vacation and starts this big week of very awkwardly focusing on climate and energy and oil after he's just approved drilling in the arctic, how important is it that oil has just dropped below $40 a barrel? what's that going to do to the politics around this issue, to shell's efforts to drill the arctic, for example? should we be freaked out about what happened in downtown new york and in stock markets around the world? is this what looks like a crash today, is this normal? just one of the things that markets do? should we see this as a regular healthy part of how the world economy works or is this something bigger and badder. whether or not you have money in the stock market, is this worth being scared about? and how will we know and when will we know? joining us is alan krueger, former chairman of the white house council of economic advisors under president obama, now professor at princeton. professor krueger, nice to have you here. thanks for being here. >> my pleasure.
>> so the dow was down big today for a third straight day, markets around the world were down today. should we see this as something to worry about, or is this something that markets do? is this something that's uncomfortable but shouldn't make us feel differently than we otherwise do about the economy broadly speaking? >> well, that's a great question. markets are volatile. there's nothing that i'm seeing in the economic data for the u.s. that lead me to panic about the real economy. the job market's continuing to heal. the lower price of oil should actually help u.s. consumers. that should help spending going forward. i worry a little bit about congress playing games again with the debt ceilinging in the fall. but i don't think anything significant has changed in the u.s. data as far as i can tell. now, of course, china is a worry, but the links that we have to china are relatively small. so i think what we're most
likely to see is an episode like we have seen many times before where the stock market tends to overreact but fortunately that doesn't have significant effects for the real economy. >> one of the reasons i wanted to talk to you about this specifically today is because there is this interesting juxtaposition of the president doing a -- what's going to be a big push on the issue of climate, there's a lot of really pointed politics on the issue of climate and energy particularly with the president not just giving the speech but also going to alaska and the drilling issue in alaska. from your perspective having served on the council of economic advisor, thinking about how politicians make decisions on policy informed by the economy, should we expect policy to change? policy goals to change? even short-term policy calculations to change? with -- because oil is down below $40 a barrel, is that going to make a difference to this administration? >> i think the administration is
focused on the effects of fossil fuel on climate change which are quite severe and which you emphasized in your previous segment. i don't think that that will change. in fact, in my own opinion i think now is a good time to increase the tax that we have on gasoline. that hasn't increased since the early 1980s. what better time when the price of gasoline is very low than to raise the price. in fact, what i would like to see us do is adjust the price so it moves inversely with the price of oil to smooth out fluctuations to consumers. i think congress is unlikely to do that but that would be a wonderful source of revenue for fixing our roads and highways and congress is stuck in terms of funding the highway bill. but i think as far as the president is concerned, he's focused on the longer run and he's certainly going to make efforts to support alternative fews. i think the economics of that get a little bit more difficult
as the price of gasoline and also natural gas drop in the current environment. >> right, exactly. seeing the president today talking about unveiling these proposals around renewable energy, you have to think about the fact that they become comparatively more expensive when oil is so -- when oil is so cheap to burn, at least in monetary terms. alan krueger, former chairman of the white house council of economic advisors, thanks for being here tonight. nice to have you here. >> thank you. all right. still ahead, one marquee republican candidate for president, two amazing stories, including exclusive footage of an fbi raid involving one of his top staffers and how that might affect presidential politics. an fbi raid. you will not see this footage anywhere else. stay with us tonight. in the nation, we know how it feels when you aren't treated like a priority. we do things differently. we'll take care of it. we put members first. join the nation. thank you. ♪ nationwide is on your side
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in june -- which is not that long ago -- the "washington post" published good news for republican presidential candidate rick perry. right after he announced his presidential bid, rick perry got a big conservative backner iowa, a former u.s. senate candidate from iowa, very prominent conservative named sam clovis and sam clovis plighted his trough with rick perry with great enthusiasm. he told the "washington post" "i'm a fighter pilot and i would fly my wing through the gates of hell with rick perry." through the gates of hell.
but apparently not through two and a half weeks of not being paid. the associated press today first to report that sam clovis, the chairman of the rick perry for president campaign in iowa, rick perry's iowa chairman, has just quit. now he tells the "washington post," "rick perry is a great man, it was my honor to be part of this but it's time to move on." rick perry has not been paying his campaign staff for a couple weeks now, basically since fox news wouldn't allow him to compete in the prime time republican candidates' debate and he had to be at the consolation prize kids' table debate instead. this afternoon there was a squibb on one conservative web site saying rick perry was paying his staff again now -- at least some of them. but even if that's true, it apparently did not come soon enough to save rick perry's own iowa campaign chairman. who really never should have said he was going to fly rick perry through the gates of hell if he wasn't even planning on
flying with him through august. but this is really bad news for rick perry's presidential hopes. more than ever, rick perry's campaign is on death watch. but even as it seems like he may be soon getting out, there's some surprising news tonight for the first time tonight there is news that makes me think that vice president biden might get into the presidential race. i have been a 100% skeptic on this story all summer long. but what just got reported tonight about joe biden is giving me pause for the first time. and that's next. ♪ ♪ (dorothy) toto, i've a feeling we're not in kansas anymore... (morpheus) after this, there is no turning back. (spock) history is replete with turning points.
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move over limberbutt mccubbins because now sir cookie zealot is also running for president. as is a d.c. state party candidate named american cookies. bippy the clown is running for president this year as is jedi obi-wan kenobi, as is sparkle lady kauai as is rocky balboa, good for him and fidel castro. we're going to want to look into that one. a man named jason borne is running, though he spells his name without the "u." lucille hamster, candidate for president, anybody? mr. pepe le frog is running as an independent. cap'n crunch is running. there's an fec filing for a candidate for president named
but stuff. tom brady sketch is running for president. that's going to be a hard sell. he's not even going to win massachusetts. you know, tom brady sketch probably no harder a sell than his majesty satan lord of the underworld prince of darkness who has also filed to run as a republican, interestingly enough. you thought it was bad when deez nut s was the joke candidate everybody could name. mr. nuts filed paperwork to run for president which was a funny thing but the public policy polling furthered the deez nuts for that joke by polling in the state of north carolina. he got 9%. the ensuing publicity around that joke and the poll on that joke has now resulted in lots more joke candidates filing paperwork to run for president. a lot more. butt stuff and cap 'n crunk and
pepe lefrog and the rest of them. lots of the joke candidate names are way too dirty to read on tv. but you can look them up yourself on the fec web site if you so desire, if you've got an appetite for a lot of jokes been genitals and butts. turns out i do! i found it very distracting all day to read the fec filings. especially ones that have come in in the last few days. but amid all those fake filings that have come in in the last few days, today there was one that made me do a double take. look. whoa. he's filed? after about a second and a half i realized, no, this is not a real filing for vice president, that's not how you spell his middle name. the middle name doesn't have two "es" on the end of it. i could guarantee you mr. biden would never run with the campaign committee which is listed on this form. that's the name hst campaign committee. but the reason there is a flurry now of more than one fake joe biden fec filings for president,
amid all of the dirty ones and other joke ones that have been filed in the last few days ever since the deez nuts poll, the reason there's joe biden fake ones now is because of all this renewed chatter that vice president biden might run for the presidency. first it was the "new york times" report on saturday he met with elizabeth warren, the senator from massachusetts, liberal hero. met with her. this weekend. okay, that's interesting. but you know what? a lot of people have talked with elizabeth warren and not all of them have decided to run for president. after that, though, it was "the washington post." "washington post" reporting today that vice president biden has invited big democratic donors to meet with him after right after labor day to talk about the prospects of him running. okay, that's something specific. honestly i'm still skeptical. but then there was news. late today after the vice president had his regular lunch with president obama today,
there was news today or rather one tweet todayed from one cnn reporter saying that a top democrat has told cnn that at this lunch today president obama gave vice president biden his blessing to run for president, if vice president biden decides he wants to. okay, now you've piqued my interest. if that's true -- i have been skeptical all summer long with these reports that the vice president is going to run, i have been 100% skeptical. but if that's true, if president obama has come back from two weeks vacation, sat down with vice president biden in the oval office and effectively encouraged him to run for president, well, then, i take that seriously. the question is, is that report true? hold that thought.
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and if you're pregnant or planning to be. ask your doctor about otezla today. otezla. show more of you. >> to be honest with you, to be totally honest, speaking personally, i have been a total skepic about the prospect that vice president joe biden would run for president this year. i have been a 100% skeptic about it until tonight when something
was reported that i have to tell you nbc news has not verified but if it turns out to be true i am a skeptic no longer. what this report is, it's a report that came out late tonight. one report, it's from cnn, anonymously sourced but what they have reported is that president obama had lunch with biden today and at that lunch president obama gave vice president biden "his blessing" to run for president if the vice president chooses to do so. if that happened i feel much less skeptical about the prospect that he would run. is that warranted? and is this report true? joining us now is karen tumulty from "the washington post." it's great to see you. thanks for being here. >> great to be here. >> in terms of your reporting and your understanding of this event today, what do you make of this report that president obama gave the vice president his blessing to run? >> i think smoke signals coming out of the naval observatory suggests the vice president is looking for a way to get to yes
on this. and i think that you know, saying that the president gave his blessing to this could mean any number of things. the fact is it is not barack obama's job to be playing defensive tackle for hillary clinton. so if his own vice president comes to him and says i am exploring this it is hard to imagine him suggesting he not do this after all the things that these two men have been through together. that's not the same as endorsing him, however. >> in terms of what this means and why i think it feels so significant though, obviously secretary clinton was president obama's secretary of state. vice president biden was and remains his vice president. the idea that secretary clinton couldn't count on him essentially to keep the race boxed out as it is does feel like not an endorsement but it does feel like sort of an act of
furtherance toward announcement. what are you watching for in terms of tangible things to see whether or not this it will happen? >> i have been been talking to people on the ground in key states and vice president biden has a lot of support in places like south carolina where he has spent a lot of time, where he was best friends with their -- he gave the eulogy at strom thurmond's funeral. there's a lot of hard feelings left over from the 2008 primary campaign. he does have pockets of support on the ground in places. probably he'd start out way behind in iowa. the second place i'm finding support for this idea of him running is in the donor community. specifically among the big bundlers who decided to go with barack obama rather than hillary clinton in 2008. and a number of them who had misgivings about her then
continue to, and are really worried where the performance of the campaign, the clinton campaign not just on the e-mail controversy but just in general. and sort of the imperial way in which it's being run. >> karen tumulty, that's very helpful for understanding this. i feel like the next step is to try to get those big donors to talk if not on the record then on background. i feel like that may be the level of conversation at which these things may be decided. >> they're into the tactics, yes. >> karen, thanks for being here, i appreciate it. >> thank you. ahead, life for one republican candidate just got better and potentially a whole lot worse. we've got some exclusive foot many to show you tonight that you won't see anywhere else. please stay with us.
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and she found it to be worrying. these are the subject lines. "i'm afraid it has come to this." "this is a tough e-mail to write." "this is horrible." "this could get ugly." "am i on my own?" she tweeted out a screen shot of her inbox with this caption "you guys, i'm worried about rand paul." it's been more of the same since the rand paul campaign, since then from the rand paul campaign. this one titled "please help." please help. another one "has it all been decided?" is this all there is? the rand paul for president campaign is not built on sunshine and rainbows. it's not a happy warrior kind of campaign. it's more like a worried warrior kind of campaign or just a worried -- it's very anxious. it's a very anxious campaign. but this weekend the rand paul campaign had reason to be anxious as the kentucky republican party had to vote on saturday as to whether or not they would allow senator paul to run for president and run for reelection to his senate seat at the same time. under kentucky law, you have to
choose one or the other. it's against kentucky law to run for two different positions in the same election. rand paul came up with a way around that law, though, it would involve the republican party in kentucky holding its primary as normal but also in addition to that they'd have to hold a caucus as well just so rand paul could run for president and senate at the same time. that's a hassle, expensive, a total break from anything kentucky's he ever done in the past and kentucky republicans have been worried about this rand paul plan anyway because they're worried that they might lose his u.s. senate seat to a democrat unless they've got somebody running full time and with their full attention to try to hold on to that senate seat for republicans. so the republican party needed to vote on saturday. rand paul needs add two-thirds vote from the republican party executive committee to get permission from them so he could run for senate and president at the same time. again, the rand paul campaign is
an anxious campaign to begin with. they worry about everything. this could get ugly. am i on my own? has it all been decided? they are worriers anyway and this saturday vote was worth worrying about. the lexington herald leader describing the committee members as "skittish" heading into saturday's vote. kentucky republicans were increasingly getting quoted in the press worrying out loud about whether rand paul was putting the u.s. senate seat at risk questioning why they were taking that risk with that senate seat given rand paul's very, very slim chances of winning the republican presidential nomination. on friday's show, here, looking ahead to that saturday vote i raised the prospect that we should be watching for rand paul to potentially get out of the presidential race even sooner than texas governor rick perry might if that kentucky vote went against rand paul on saturday and he had to choose either senate reelection or presidential run. his home state republican party forcing him to choose. to decide between running for
senate or for president. well, on saturday that vote happened. and rand paul won! tada! only about a third of the executive committee showed up for that vote. but of the people who showed up, he got the two-thirds majority that he needed and so rand paul will keep running for his senate seat and for president at the same time. nothing to worry about after all. unless, of course, you want to worry about the footage of that fbi raid that msnbc has just obtained which raises the prospect that another very uncomfortable shoe could be about to drop for rand paul and his presidential hopes. this could get ugly. is this all there is? that story and the exclusive fbi raid footage is next. (vo) maggie wasn't thrilled when ben and i got married. i knew it'd take some time. and her sensitive stomach didn't make things easier.
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story. it is a political story but it starts with a burglary as all good political stories do, a burglary that took place last summer outside providence, rhode island. it was a summer night last july in a house along this wooded road was broken into. the circumstances were fishy from the beginning because the family that lived in the house on that street was out of the state on vacation at the time of the break-in. presumably whoever broke in maybe knew the house would be an easy target with the family away. the main thing taken from the house during that robbery was a laptop computer. the place wasn't ransacked but a single laptop was taken. the police chief said the burglary appeared to be well orchestrated and it seemed interesting to him, it was not a typical break-in because not much else was taken except that one laptop.
that took place laster? suburban rhode island. that is still considered to be an unsolved crime that local police are still investigating. stick a pin in that for a moment. there is some exclusive video that we have obtained here at msnbc. it shows an fbi raid in progress. it's dramatic piece of tape involves fbi agents storming into a house at dawn with their guns drawn. the fbi showed up to make an arrest. an intense piece of tape that has not been previously released. it all centers though around one of the republican candidates for president this year. it involves republican senator rand paul of kentucky. more specifically, it involves people who have surrounded rand paul for years. when he decided to jump into politics, he inherited an entire political infrastructure from his father. ron paul had been in national politics for decades, an a perennial protest candidate for president on the republican side. during those campaigns he built
up not just a crew of supporters but a crew of political operatives which when rand became a politician, rand inherited. and one of the things that those political operatives allegedly did in pursuit of getting ron paul elected president has now led to multiple federal indictments. has to do with a high profile endorsement that ron paul got right before the iowa caucuses in 2012. the ron paul campaign got an iowa state senator to switch sides to, throw his support from michele bachmann who he had been campaigning for and instead support ron paul. it was a big coup at the time, supposed to be a sign he had momentum aheading into the election day in iowa. but that endorsement from that state senator was allegedly the result i've bribe. that republican state senator came out and publicly said so, he said is the paul campaign paid him for their endorsement. they were making secret payments to him over the course of 2012. that senator ultimately pled
guilty for his role in that scandal. the ron paul aides who were allegedly involved in that plot included ron paul's campaign manager at the time, this gentleman with him here, his name is jesse benton. as well this gentlemen how see in the bow tie. his name is dimitri kasari standing alongside that iowa state senator that they were allegedly bribing for his endorsement at the time. these two guys here, jesse benton and dimytory were two of the paul family associated indicted earlier this month by the justice department for their role in that bribery scheme. they both deny any wrongdoing. jesse benton received a summons to appear in federal court upon being indicted. he appeared in court this past thursday and pled not guilty. but ditmytory kasari didn't just get a summons. he had his home visited by the fbi. and this tape i'm about to show
you is tape obtained by msnbc, anthony terrell and shows the raid on his house in suburban virginia earlier this month. the raid took place early in the morning, like 6:00 in the morning. agents came in with their guns drawn, woke up the whole family that morning. watch this. put it your hands up and come on down. everything's fine. put your hands on top of your head. let's go outside, please. right outside. is your dad home? is your dad home? >> is your dad home? >> he's sleeping. still asleep. don't be that scared. okay? >> cool down. cool down. >> i can't even see. >> mr. kasari, did imytory come down. >> he's not here. >> fbi agents calling out for
dimitri ca se ri. searching the house. turns out he was in iowa where he was indicted the next day. but that fbi raid on dimitri ca se ri's house in virginia was an intense scene. multiple fbi agents involved, many of them in bulletproof vests. they rolled up to this house at dawn with their weapons out. and there was not for some violent crime. this was for an alled campaign finance violation. you look at that video, it seems to be a pretty surprisingly large show of force for alleged campaign finance violations. but the other thing to know about dimitri ca sar rayry, the paul family associate is that he is currently a named suspect in a burglary, a burglary that took place last summer in rhode island, that house that was broken into in suburban rhode island last july, that house is owned by the parents of a young man who worked on the ron paul for president campaign in 2012.
this young man reportedly roomed with dimitri in iowa during that campaign. that was the campaign where did imytory and other paul family associates were allegedly bribing that local state senator. that young man after that campaign was over, it's a sad story, he passed away suddenly. he died in july 2013 at the age of 26. just an outpouring of grief and support for his family when he died. and on the one-year anniversary of his death, his parents were given an anonymous gift for them to essentially get away for a weekend. they were given a trip to ken he bunk port maine. while they were gone for that trip that some anonymous donor so generously paid for them to go on, their home was broken into. their home in rhode island was broken into and the thing that was taken was a laptop which is a laptop their son used to do political work when he was working for the ron paul campaign. this is an unsolved mystery. there is no indication about who broke into that house.
but the local police chief in rhode island is now publicly naming dimitri kasari as a suspect in that case. he says that the timing of that break-in with the family away on vacation, that somebody else paid for, the police chief says that does not appear to be a coincidence. he says the operation was "well orchestrated and the evidence does not suggest a typical burglary." he says the person behind this break-in appears to have been searching for something specific. and crucially look at this, he says that dimitri kasari was in in rhode island at that time at that weekend. the police chief says his department has been cooperating with federal authorities and investigators from his office have traveled to try to interviewdymy industry. we spoke with an attorney for kasari who told us that his client has 0 not been charged in this burglary case. he says police officials have
been in touch but he has not been charged with anything. but that on going burglary investigation in rhode island in which a laptop with political work linked to the ron paul presidential campaign was stolen, that burglary investigation could at least in part explain why the fbi raideddymy industry ca se ri's home in virginia earlier this month with such an overwhelming display of force which otherwise seems quite unwarranted. we asked the fbi whereby that case in rhode island led to this response that you see the on this video. they would not say directly but told us "the fbi assesses each individual independently when determine diagnose how to effect an arrest." the scandal involving the ron paul for president campaign in 2012, the scandal involving an alleged bribe to an iowa state senator for his endorsement, this thing has already led to the federal indictments of two officials helping to get rand paul elected president. and it is turning out to be sort
of, you know, the onion of scandals. i don't mean the onion as in the satirical newspaper. i mean every time you peel one layer, there's an republicans have never given president obama any credit for many things. but today when the stock market went down, republicans knew exactly who to blame -- president obama, of course. >> breaking news from wall street. stocks plunging. >> it was by wall street standards a historic drop.