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take the stage at any moment. jonathan picks up our live coverage next. thank you many. i'm jonathan capehart, president obama is about to give a speech in new orleans to mark the tenth anniversary of hurricane katrina. when that happens, we will bring it to you live. donald trump responds to his new white supremacist fan club, and local police departments get the go ahead to use weaponized drones. we'll tell you where ahead. >> first, we are fast approaching the tenth anniversary of hurricane katrina, president obama is in new orleans, where he will mark the anniversary by speaking at a newly opened community center in the lower 9th ward. you remember hurricane katrina slammed into the louisiana coast on august 29th, 2005, a decade later, new orleans is still recovering, let's go live to new orleans where president obama is
approaching the microphone to speak to those gathered. >> hello, everybody. where are you at? >> it's good to be back in the big easy. and this is the weather in august all the time, right? as soon as i land in new orle s orleans, the first thing i do is get hungry. when i was here with the family a new years ago i had a shrimp po'boy at the parkway bakery and tavern. i still remember it, that's how good it was. maybe i'll finally hear a rebirth of the maple leaf on tuesday night i'll gets a chance
to see the mardi gras. right now, i just go to meetings. i want to thank michelle for the introduction, more importantly for the great work she's doing what she symbolizes, what she represents in terms of the city bouncing back. i want to acknowledge a great friend and somebody who has been working tirelessly on behalf of this city. and he's following a family legacy of service your mayor, mitch landrieu. senator big kasi is here, where did he go? there he is. congressman cedric richmond. we've got a lifelong champion of
louisiana in your former senator, mary landrieu in the house. i want to acknowledge a great supporter to the efforts to recover and rebuild, hakeem jeffries from new york, who has travelled down here with us. to all the elected officials from louisiana and mississippi who are here today thank you so much for your reception. i'm here to talk about a specific recovery. but before i begin to talk just about new orleans, i want to talk about america's recovery. take a little moment of presidential privilege to talk about what's been happening in our economy. this morning we learned that our
economy grew at a stronger and morrow bust clip back in the spring than anybody knew at the time. the data always lags. we already knew that over the past five and a half years our businesses have created 13 million new jobs. these new numbers that came out, showing the economy was growing at a 3.7% clip means that the united states of america remains an anchor of global strength and stability in the world. that we have recovered faster, more steadily. stronger, than just about any economy after the worst financial crisis since the great depression. and it's important for us to remember that strength. it's been a volatile few weeks
around the world. and there's been a lot of reports in the news and stock markets swinging and worries about china and about europe. but the united states of america for all the challenges that we still have, continue to have the best cards. we just have to play them right. our economy has been moving. and continues to grow and unemployment continues to come down, our work is not yet done but we have to have that sense of steadiness and vision and purpose in order to sustain this recovery so it reaches everybody and not just some. it's why we need to do everything we can in government to make sure our economy keeps growing. that requires congress to protect our momentum.
congress is about to come back from a six week recess. the deadline to fund the government is as always the end of september. and so i want everyone to understand that congress has about a month to pass a budget that helps our economy grow. otherwise we risk shutting down the government and services that we all count on for the second time in two years, that would not be responsible. it does not have to lap. congress needs to fund america in a way that invests in our growth and security and not cuts us off at the knees by locking in mindless austerity or short sided sequester cuts. i said i would veto a budget like that, i think most americans agree. we have to invest in, rather than cut things like military readiness, infrastructure, schools, public health. the research and development that keeps our companies on the
cutting edge that's what great nations do. [ applause ] >> that's what great nations do. eventually we're going to do it anyway, so let's just do it without too much -- let's do it without another round of threats to shut down the government. let's not introduce unrelated partisan issues. nobody gets to hold the american economy hostage over their own ideological demands. you, the people who send us to washington, expect better, am i correct? sao my message to congress is, pass a budget, prevent a shutdown, don't wait until the last minute, don't worry our businesses or our workers by contributing unnecessarily to global uncertainty. get it done.
and keep the united states of america the anchor of global strength that we are and always should be. now, that's a process of national recovery that from coast to coast we've been going through. but there's been a specific process of recovery that is perhaps unique in my lifetime. right here in the state of louisiana, right here in new orleans. not long ago our gathering here in the lower nine would have seemed unlikely, as i was flying here today with a homegirl from louisiana, donna brazil, she saved all the magazines, she was whipping them out, one of them was a picture of the lower ninth
right after the storm that happen happened. and the notion that there would be anything left seemed unimaginable at the time. today this new community center stands as a symbol of the extraordinary resilience of this city, the extraordinary resilience of its people, the extraordinary resilience of the entire gulf coast and the united states of america. you are an example of what is possible when in the face of tragedy and in the face of hardship, good people come together to lend a hand. and brick by brick, block by block, neighborhood by neighborhood you build a better future. and that more than any other reason is why i've come back here today, plus, mitch landry asked me to.
it's been ten years since katrina hit. devastating communities in louisiana and mississippi, across the gulf coast. in the days following its land fall, more than 1800 of our fellow citizens, men, women and children lost their lives. some folks in this room may have lost a loved one in that storm. thousands of people saw their homes destroyed. livelihoods wiped out. hopes and dreams shattered. many scattered in an exodus to cities across the country. and too many still haven't returned. those two state and live d
through that epic struggle, still feel the trauma sometimes of what happened. there's one woman from again tilley recently wrote me, a deep part of the whole story is the grief. so there's grief then, and there's still some grief in our hearts. here in new orleans a city that embodies a celebration of life, suddenly seemed devoid of life. a place once define ed by color and sound, the second line down the street, the crawfish boils in backyards, the music in the air, suddenly was dark and silent. and the world watched in horror. we saw those rising waters drown the iconic streets of new orleans. families stranded on rooftops, bodies in the streets.
children crying, crowded in the superdome. an american city dark and under water. and this was something that was supposed to never happen here. maybe some place else, but not here, not in america. and we came to realize what started out as a natural disaster, became a man made disaster. a failure of government to look out for its own citizens. and the storm laid bear a deeper tragedy that had been brewing for decades, because we came to understand that new orleans like so many cities and communities had too long been plagued by structural inequalities that left too many people especially poor people, especially people of color without good jobs or affordable health care or decent
housing. too many kids grew up surrounded by violent crime cycling through substandard schools. and so like a body weakened already. undernourished already, when the storm hit there's no resources to fall back on. shortly after i visited -- shortly after the storm i visited with folks not here, because we couldn't distract local recovery efforts. instead i visited folks in a shelter in houston, many of whom had been displaced, one woman told me, we had nothing before the hurricane, and now we have less than nothing. we had nothing before the
hurricane, now we have less than nothi nothing. and we acknowledge this loss and this pain. not to dwell on the past. not to wallow in grief. we do it to fortify our commitment and to bolster our hope, to understand what it is that we've learned and how far we've come. because this is a city that's slowly, unmistakably together, is moving forward. because the project of rebuilding here wasn't just to restore the city as it had been. it was to build a city as it should be. a city where everyone no matter what they look like, how much money they got, where they come from, where they're born, has a chance to make it.
and i'm here to say that on that larger project, i have a better, stronger, more just new orleans, the progress that you have made is remarkable. the progress you made is remarkab remarkable. that's not to say things are perfect. mitch would be the first one to say that. we know that african americans and folks in hard hit parishes like plaquemines and saint per narrowed are less likely to feel like they've recovered. certainly we know violence still scars the lives of too many youth in this city. as hard as rebuilding levees are. as hard as -- >> i agree with that, but i -- i'll get to that. thank you, man.
as hard as rebuilding levees is, as hard as rebuilding housing is, real change, real lasting structural change that's even harder, and it takes courage to experiment with new ideas and change the old way of doing things, that's hard. getting it right and making sure everybody is included and everybody has a fair shot at success, that takes time, that's not unique to new orleans. we have those challenges all across the country. but i'm here to say -- i'm here to hold up a mirror and say because of you, the people of new orleans working together this city is moving in the right direction, and i have never been more confident that together we will get to where we need to go. you inspire me.
your efforts inspehr me, no matter how hard it's been, and how long the road ahead might seem, you're work iing and building and striving for a better tomorrow. i see evidence of it all across this city. by the way, along the way, the people of new orleans didn't just inspire me, you inspired all of america. folks have been watching what's happened here and they've seen a reflection of the very best of the american spirit. as president, i've been proud to be your partner. across the board i've made the recovery and rebuilding of the gulf coast a priority. i made promises when i was a senator that i'd help and i've
kept those promises. we're cutting red tape to help you build back even stronger. we're taking the lessons we've learned here, applied them across the country, including places like new york and new jersey after hurricane sandy. if katrina was initially an example of what happens when government fails. the recovery's been an example of what's possible when government works together. state, local community. everybody working together as two partners. together we delivered resources to help mississippi, louisiana, alabama and florida rebuild schools, hospitals, roads. police and fire stations. restore historic buildings and museums. and we're building smarter,
doing everything from elevating homes to retrofitting buildings, to improving drainage so our communities are better prepared for the next storm. working together, we've transformed education in this city before the storm, new orleans public schools were largely broken. leaving generations of low income kids without a decent education, thanks to parents and educators, school leaders and nonprofits, we're seeing new gains with new schools, more resources to retain and support great teachers and principles. we have data before the storm, high school graduation was 54%, today it's 73%. before the form, college enrollment was 37%, today it's almost 650%.
we still have a long way to go, that is real progress. new orleans is coming back better and stronger opinion. working together, we're providing more housing assistance to families today than before the storm. with new apartments and housing vouchers, and we will keep working until everybody who wants to come home can come home. we're building a new orleans that is entrepreneurial as any other in the country. making sure more people benefit from a growing economy here. we're creating jobs to rebuild the city's transportation infrastructure. industries for high-tech manufacturing, also, water management because we've been building some good water management around here. and we want to make sure everybody has access to those good well paying jobs.
small businesses, like michelle's are growing. it's small businesses like hers that are helping to fuel 65 straight months of private sector job growth in america. that's the longest streak in american history. together we're doing more to make sure that everyone in this city has access to great health care. more folks have access to primary care at neighborhood clinics so they can get the preventative care they need. we're building a brand new va medical center downtown, alongside a thriving biosciences corridor that's attracting new jobs and investment. we are working to make sure that we have additional mental health facilities. across the city and across the country. more people have access to quality affordable health care, some of the more than 16 million
americans who have gained health insurance over the past few year s. all of this progress is the result of the commitment and drive of the people of this region. i saw that spirit today, we mentioned i started walking around a little bit, such a nice day outside. and we went to laffit, we're in electra may and saw returning residents, living in brand new homes, mixed income. new homes near schools and clinics and parks. child care centers more opportunities for working families. we saw that spirit today at willie may's scorch house. after katrina had destroyed that legendary restaurant. some of the best chefs from the
country decided america could not afford to lose such an important place, they came down here to help. helped rebuild. and i just sampled some of her fried chicken. it was really good. but i did get a grease spot on my suit. if you come to new orleans and you don't have a grease spot somewhere, then you didn't enjoy the city. [ applause ] just glad i didn't get it on my tie. we all just heard that spirit of new orleans and the remarkable young people from roots of music. when the storm washed away, a lot of middle school music programs, roots of music helped fill that gap, today it's
building the next generation of musical talent, the nexter ma thomas or trombone shorty or dr. john. there's a marsalis kid in here somewhere. how are you doing? [ applause ] and i saw in the wonder frl young men i met earlier, who were part of nola for life, reducing the number of murders in the city of new orleans there's a program that works with the white house's my brother's keeper's initiative, to make sure that all young people and particularly our boys and young men of color who are impacted by crime and violence had the opportunity to fulfill their full potential. in fact, after this storm, this
city became a laboratory for urban innovation. we've been tackling with you as a partner all sorts of major challenges, fighting poverty, supporting our homeless veterans, and as a result, new orleans has become a model for the nation as the first city to end homelessness, which is a remarkable achievement you're also becoming a model for the nation when it comes to disaster response and resilience. we learned lessons from katrina. the u.s. army core of engineers developed stricter standards here in louisiana, we built a $14 billion system of improved levees and p.m.p stations and gates. a system that stood the test of hurricane isaac. we revamped fema, and i have to say there's a man named craig few gate who runs fema and has been doing extraordinary work on
its team all across the country, every time there's a disaster. i love me some craig fugate. it's a little disturbing, you know he gets excited when there are disasters, he gets restless if everything's just quiet. we revamped fema into a stronger more efficient agency. the whole federal government has gotten smarter preventing and recovering from disasters. serving as a partner to local and state governments. as i'll talk about next week when i visit alaska. making our communities more resilient is going to be increasingly important. we're going to see more extreme weather events as a result of climate change. deeper droughts, deadlier wildfires, stronger storms.
that's why in addition to things like new and better levees, we also been investing in wetlands that are just as critical for storm protection. we made a lot of progress over the last ten years, you've made a lot of progress. that gives us hope. but it doesn't allow for complacency. it doesn't mean we can rest. our work here won't be done when almost 40% of children still live in poverty in this city. that's not a finished job. that's not a full recovery. our work will be done when a typical black household earns the same as a white household in this city. the work's not done yet.
our work's not done when there's still too many people who have yet to find good affordable housing. and too many people, especially after african-american men who can't find a job. not when they're still too many people who haven't been able to come back home. folks who around the country every day live the words sung by louie armstrong. do you know what it means to miss new orleans? the thing is, the people of new orlea orleans, there's something you are just irrepressible. you guys have a way of making a way out of no way. [ applause ] >> you know the sun comes out after every storm. you've got hope. especially your young people
reflect hope. young people like victor carter. where's victor. stand up, victor, i was just talking to victor, i had some lunch with him. these are these fine young men i just met with. stand up, everybody, these are the guys who who i ate chicken with. really impressive. have overcome more than their fair share of challenges. but are still focused on the future. go ahead, sit down, i don't want you to start getting embarrassed. i'll give you one example, victor grew up in the eighth ward, gifted arts student, loved math, he was 13 when katrina hit, he remembers waking up to what looked like something out of a disaster movie. he and his family waded across
the city, towing his younger brother in a trash can to keep him afloat. they were eventually evacuated to texas. six months later they returned and the city was almost unrecognizable. victor saw his peers struggling to cope. many of them still traumatized, their lives still disordered. he joined an organization called rethink to help young people get more involved in rebuilding new orleans. and recently he finished a coding boot camp at operation spark. today he's studying to earn a high-tech job. wants to introduce more young people to science, technology and civics, they have the tools to change the world. and so victor and these young men that i just met with, they've overcome extraordinary odds. they've lived through more than most of us will ever have to
endure. they've made some mistakes along the way. but for all that they've been through, they have been just as determined to improve their own lives, to take responsibility for themselves, but also to try to see if they can help others along the way. so when i talk to young men like that, that gives me hope. it's still hard. i told them, they can't get down on themselves. tough stuff will happen along the way. but if they've come this far, they can keep on going. and americans like you. the people of new orleans, young
men like this. you're what recovery all about, you're why i'm confident that we can recover from crisis and start move forward. you've helped this country recover from a crisis and help it move forward. you're the reason 13 million new jobs have been created. you're the aren't unemployment rate fell. you're the reason that layoffs are near an all time low, you're the aren't uninsured rate is at an all time low, and the high school graduation rates are at an all time high. two wars are over. and nearly 180,000 american troops who were serving in afghanistan have gone down to 15,000. clean energy revolution was there to save this planet. you're the reason justice has expanded. now we're focused on making sure everybody's treated fairly under the law, and why people have the
freedom to marry, whoever they love from sea to shining sea. you know, i tell you, we're moving into the next presidential cycle. the next political season, and you will hear a lot of people telling you everything that's wrong with america. and that's okay. that's a proper part of our democracy. one of the things about america is, we're never satisfied. we keep pushing forward, we keep asking questions, we keep challenging our government, keep challenging our leaders, we keep looking for the next set of challenges to tackle. we find what's wrong, we have confidence that we can fix it. it's important that we remember what's right and what's good and what's hopeful about this country. it's worth remembering that for
all the tragedy. for all the images of katrina in those first few days in those first few months, look at what's happened here. it's worth remembering the thousands of americans like michelle and victor and miss willie may and the folks that rallied around her, americans all across this country who when they saw neighbors and friends or strangers in need, came to help. and people who today still spend their time, every day helping others, rolling up their sleeves. doing the hard work of changing this country without the need for credit or the need for glory. don't get their name in the papers. don't see their day in the sun. do it because it's right. these americans live the basic
values that defy this country. the value that we've been reminded of. we come back from a crisis that changed this city. economic crisis that spread throughout the nation. the basic notion that i am my brother's keeper and i am my sister's keeper, and we look out for each other and we're all in this together. that's the story of new orleans, but that's also the story of america. a city that for almost 300 years has been the gateway to america's soul. where the jazz makes you cry, the funerals make you dance. the bayou makes you believe all kinds of things. a place that has always brought together people of all rices and religions and languages and everyone adds their culture able flavor into the city's gumbo, you remind our nation that for all of our differences we're all
in the same boat, we all share a similar destiny. if we stay focused on that common purpose. we remember the responsibility to ourselves, but also our responsibilities and obligations to one another. we will not just rebuild this city, we will rebuild this country. we will make sure not just these young men but every child in america has a structure and support and love and kind of nurturing that they need to succeed. we'll leave behind a city and a nation that's worthy of generations to come. you've got it started, now we have to finish the job. thank you, god bless you, god bless america. >> you've been listening to president obama mark the tenth anniversary of hurricane
katrina, in a 36 minute address at the andrew p. sanchez community center in new orleans. he touched on a lot of themes there in that speech, he started talking about the economy and moved on to talking about what new orleans had been doing to try to revamp and rebuild, he said new orleans is coming back better and stronger. he lauded the fema administrator, craig fugate, when he said i love me some craig fugate. he talked about the fact that education was rebounding in new orleans, before the storm, 54% of the students in new orleans graduated, now it is 73%. he said that the storm also laid bear structural problems that had been existing before the storm. a woman told him that before hurricane katrina, we had nothing. now we have less than nothing he told her. but as you saw there at the end of his speech, he said that the
people of new orleans and the way they bounce back from that tragedy ten years ago, has been a model for the nation, and a model for recovery that the nation has been undergoing since the economic crisis in 2008. let me bring in tremayne lee, and joy reid and john nichols, washington correspondent for the nation magazine, all to you, thanks for being here. tremayne, let me start with you. >> he marked the contradiction of the place perfectly, the jazz will make you cry and the funerals will make you dance. he discussed the city before the storm, being malnourished and weakened at the time the storm hit. i was a reporter here when katrina struck. there was a sense that new orleans may never be period, almost. you talk about people mulling
ideas about turning the lower 9th ward into green space. there are families who have not returned, 100,000 african-americans, gut again, speaking to contradictions, it's a time of great progress, the relationship and coordination between local, state and federal officials, a billion dollar school system, a billion dollar hospital complex rebuilt, yet and still the most vulnerable in this city remain as such. the inhe can equities that existed before the storm, president obama talked about the structural inequalities. people lived their lives surrounded by violence. those issues are stubborn and still lingering, another thing he pointed out was, we don't say this to wallow in the pain, but to fortify our strength and resilience, and when you think about the people of new orleans, the people of mississippi, the people of this region, the great resilience of the face 10 years ago, people thought that new orleans would cease to exist. when you think about the
devastation. and you know, it was a -- on point on so many levels, i think the big takeaway, is that there is still so much work to do, we're here in the french quarter, there are tourists and people enjoying great food at new restaurants. there are so many pretty shiny things, the bruising remains bone deep. you talk to folks in many of these communities, they'll say the same. >> you're looking at pictures from ten years ago. what's your reaction to the president's speech. >> it's interesting, and it was good to hear tremayne talk about the vast and stark differences that haven't been done. in 2005, i was a political blogger, i wasn't working for a news organization at the time. i'm struck by the dichotomy between 2005 when you have to remember president obama was a rising star freshman united states senator who as the lone african-american in the united states senate was facing all of this tremendous pressure to respond to katrina in the right
way, he was in the process of -- at the peak of his political brand having done that 2004 speech at the convention, and then you fast forward ten years, you now have an african-american president who's going in and much of that speech was recounting what has gone right, recounting the recovery, the gains, the things that have gone well and improved in nurnls. katrina is what broke the bush administration's spell over the news media, the approval ratings of that administration with african-americans plunged, you had the kanye west moment that george w. bush would later call the worst moment of his presidency, that was the worst moment, not the drowning in the death and the horror that we all watched unfold live on television. you think about the lack, you think about the abandonment of an american city, a great city like new orleans. the feeling of abandonment, not just by those who lived there, but by those of us who were watching it from the outside, feeling utterly helpless,
musicians could get into new orleans to document what was happening, but the federal government couldn't. it was such a great american tragedy, it was interesting to see the handoff from a president that utterly failed to one who's now coming in and kind of doing a little bit of a policy victory lap. >> i was out of journal inch at the time, i remember sitting at home, watching the images on television and thinking this is a major american city, how on earth is this happening, why isn't the government coming in and rescuing those people. the woman had the sign up saying, need help, it's extraordinary to see ten years later the city bouncing back. let me bring in john nichols from from the nation magazine, your reaction to the president's speech? >> i think we heard some very wise and thoughtful reactions before me. but let me add this, to my mind a president at his or her best, is the embodiment of a country, of a nation, and in what we had
a decade ago, we had a president that was incredibly negligentful of not just new orleans but urban areas. today we saw a president who acknowledged all the challenges we have, all the profound challenges that still exist, was not neglectful. was deeply and poetly engaged with a great american city. he name dropped dr. john and louie armstrong. he talked about kids that had been forced to leave and made it back, he talked about the idea of new orleans as a -- i hope i have this phrase right, a laboratory of urban innovation, the notion that america isn't just helping new orleans, but america is looking at new orleans as a place to figure out how to fix one place and then fix a lot of other places like
health care, education, housing, this was an important speech, it was the speech of a mature and engaged president who at the end of his presidency has a good deal of time ahead of him, but was clearly sending a message about how this presidency has been very, very different than the predecessor presidency, i think to my mind a better presidency. >> as the president said, new orleans is coming back better and stronger. tremayne lee, joy nichols, thanks for joining us. trump gets questioned on some supporters.
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that he's a gm salesman, you know, he's an entrepreneur, and he has a good sense of what people want to hear, what they want to buy, obviously, whether it be apartments or ties or perfume. and i think he realizes that his path to a popularity toward the republican party is talking about the immigration issue, and he has really said some incredibly great things recently. whatever his motivations, i don't give a [ bleep ], i like the fact he's speaking out on this greatest immediate threat to the american people. >> trump said he doesn't want duke's endorsement, he doesn't want his message attracting the wrong kind of people. >> if you read this story and read a lot of people who are in organized white supremacist groups talking about you, talking about why they like you so much. would that trouble you at all? does that give you pause, make you wonder about your message? >> i would have to read the
story. a lot of people like me, the polls just came out in new hampshire, where i'm a very high number, 35%, people like me across the board. the democrats like me, liberals like me, conservatives like me. everybody likes me. >> this is only a small subset. but hearing that doesn't make you worry there's something in your message that's striking a cord with the wrong kind of people. >> i hope there's not. i haven't read the story, i haven't seen it. >> whether trump likes it or not, his message is attracting the wrong kind of people. let's go back to early 2008 when the media was attacking president obama than candidate obama for his connections to the reverend jeremiah wright. fast forward to today, and the outrage over white supremacists supporting trump isn't nearly what it was compared to jeremiah right. to put things in perspective, i want to play a clip of sean hannity in early 2008.
>> if any republican associated themselves with an anti-sellite, racist and you replace the word black with white and went to that type of church, wouldn't that be a huge deal in this campaign, rev ranned? >> it would not be allowed to happen. there is a double standard in america today, liberals can do and say whatever they want and get away with it, we all know that reverend jeremiah wright, jr. is a racist. >> let me bring in john nichols of the nation magazine. >> is there a double standard? if you look at the reverend jeremiah wright? >> trump is getting a pass because he's always been bombastic, and he started this campaign out bombastic and outrageous. that's going to be the end of him, that's going to be the end of him, i think one thing you see is, you don't see republicans that are running
against him calling it to task, he threw jorge ramos out of a press conference earlier this week, all you could get the republican candidates to week, b bush said he should have shown him a little more respect. more respect than throwing the walter cronkite of the latino community out of a press conference. it is stunning the double standard that we're seeing. >> your reaction to white supremacists backing trump? >> i think we should be fair to candidates. very blunt about this. candidates will attract support from people that they genuinely don't want the support from. that can happen. what you look at is how the candidate responds. what they say. i think donald trump should have very easily been able to say in that interview, look, i don't want the support of anybody who identifies as a white supremacist. i just don't want it. and there israel an historical precedent here. this is where we get the measure of candidates and of partisans.
back in 1964, there was a great challenge that the republican party had with john bircher coming in and trying to take over and influence process. william f. buckley, the then editor of national review, the great conservative commentator, did at great political risk, i think, stand up, stood up and said, look, these people should not be defining the conservative movement. they should not be defining the party. he drew lines and a number of other republicans did so. i think in many ways they saved the republican party. i would suggest today, this is a time not just for donald trump but for a lot of other republicans to very bluntly say, there are just some lines that shouldn't be crossed. there are some people who claim to be supporting republicans that we don't want. >> thanks for that answer. sorry we have to cut this segment a little short. thank you very much. we'll be right back.
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a day after the gruesome killing of two virginia journalists, the gun control debate has new vigor. according to authorities, vester bought two handguns legally before shooting alison parker and adam ward. nothing in his back ground disqualified him from the purchase. the manager of the former employer say he complied with
mandatory mental health counseling in the past. the father of alison park he said the grid lock over reform has gone on way too long. >> how many times are we going to see an incident like this happen, you know. new town, charleston, the movie theaters, you name it. it has to stop. >> mr. parker says he is ready to fight for new legislation. >> the nra is fighting it tooth and nail and my goal is to my goal is to call them out. without these politicians in their pocket, something would be done. >> joining me now, father of moms demand action for gun sense in america. the gunman bought these weapons legally. what kind of legislation could have prevented gun possession for vester flanagan? >> it isn't just about the legislation although that's important. we know when background checks
are passed, it cuts suicide, cop killings and domestic homicides almost in half. in this case we're also looking at something cultural in this county. the great american experiment by our gun lobby to give guns to anyone, anywhere, any time no, questions asked has failed. we are in danger because of the culture that they've created, forcing guns on college campuses and our public schools and putting them in places we should feel safe and we end up not being safe. just this summer has been such a cruel, cruel summer of gun violence in this country. we've seen shooting sprees in churches, movie theaters, in our schools, and military recruitment bases. where can we go anywhere where we are safe? time for our country to take it back just like adam parker said. from the gun lobby. we need to ask our legislators, who are you going to listen to? the american public or gun lobbyists? >> the murder broadcast on live
tv appeared on social media. do you think the increased visibility could push a greater national response from the public and politicians? >> you know, i know that this is going to happen. you can't live in a country where 88 people are shot and killed every single day and expect to keep the status quo. that isn't going to happen. that is going to be changed. what we saw yesterday was a new level of horrific gun violence. and that is why we are demanding, we're not asking politely anymore. we are demanding our lawmakers act. we are going to the capitol on december 9th and we're going to gather in communities across the country and take this country back from the gun lobby and we're going to say, we are making the laws. we are going to tell legislators what we want when it comes the gun laws. that's what we've got to do. moms in this country stood up after sandy hook and said no more. we are not going to jeopardize our family safety for the sake of the gun lobby.
our legislators are afraid of standing up to the gun lobby and they're making us stand up to gunmen and it's not okay. >> one more question. hillary clinton said she will take on gun violence and donald trump wants mental health services. are we going to see a party divide and how candidates talk about this incident? >> well, we've seen that for a long time. mental health is in many ways a straw man for people who don't want to change the gun laws. we need to focus more on mental health and less on guns. the reality is we have the same rates of mental illness in this country that other developed nations have. the main difference is how we regulated our guns. we stand with adam parker when we say we'll do whatever it takes on change the gun laws in this country. we'll support him, stand with him and we'll get this done. we demand it. >> and one more question. i'm sorriful are there more candidates you want to hear from on this issue? >> absolutely. we want to hear from every candidate. our mom are going to town halls across the country. we're asking the question. it doesn't matter if you're a
republican or a democrat. if you don't stand for gun sense, we won't stand for and you we will get you out of office. >> thank you very much for being with us this evening. i'm jonathan capehart. "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton start right now. right now on "politics nation," president obama in new orleans. ten years after katrina. i'll talk with louisiana congressman richman and mayor mitch landrieu. and donald trump today makes the case that he's for real. elizabeth warren's impact on joe biden's potential run. and the emotional homecoming of zion, the 8-year-old boy who became the first child