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i can't imagine anything worse than hearing these poor people have their details of something so intensely private exposed. the affairs is one thing but tonight on "all in" -- >> i don't need his endorsement. i certainly wouldn't want his endorsement. i don't need anybody's endorsement. >> amid reports of support from white supremacists, trump distances himself from a former kkk grand wizard. and others. >> i'm not a fan of hitler. then, the president in new orleans. >> what started out as a natural disaster became a manmade disaster. >> what the federal government is doing ten years after the storm. senior advisor valerie jarrett joins me.
plus, the fastest man in the world runs into some trouble. >> wow! down goes both. >> and by exclusive interview with tennis world champion, novak djokovic. >> you don't want to know what's in an athlete's head. >> when "all in" starts right now. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. today donald trump offered his most extensive explanation yet for his continued supremacy in the republican polls. talking to reporters after a rally in greenville, south carolina, trump explains what he means when he talks about the so-called silent majority that supports him. >> so you have a silent majority in this country that feels abused, that feels forgotten, that feels mistreated. and it's a term that hasn't been brought up in years, as you know. people haven't heard that term in many years. it's the silent majority. they want to see wins.
they want to see us have victory. we're not having victory anymore in this country. >> the term was popularized by richard nixon at a time when the rainfall strife and social upheavals of the '60s were producing a wave of white conservative backlash. now it appears donald trump is tapping into something similar among a relatively small but increasingly undeniable group of his supporters, something even uglier. trump's message has gained a solid following from the white supremacist fringes of u.s. politics, from people who's number one issue is the decline of america's white majority. new yorkers evan osnos talked with several members of several different white nationalist groups who all felt trump is speaking their language. one said the american dream is dead and the american nightmare is just beginning. i believe it's that way. i think whites don't know the terror that's upon us. another white nationalist said to the extent trump success in putting the brakes at immigration, he will also
succeed in reducing the speed with which whites are reduced to a minority. he even won praise from former kkk grand wizard david duke. >> he has really said some incredibly great things recently. so whatever his motivations, i don't give a damn. i really like the fact that he's speaking out on this greatest, immediate threat to the american people. i've said from the beginning that i think his campaign is good in the sense that he's bringing these issues to a discussion, which we have to have in america. and he's continuing to move the envelope further, and i think he understands the real sentiment of america. >> when asked about duke and why he's drawing support from such corners, trump effectively pleaded ignorance. >> i don't need his endorsement, i certainly wouldn't want his endorsement. >> would you repudiate david duke? >> sure, i would do that if it made you feel better. i don't know anything about him. >> but if you read this story and read a lot of organized white supremacist groups talking about you, talking about why they like you so much, would that trouble you at all?
does that give you pause? make you wonder about your message? >> honestly, john, i'd have to read the story. a lot of people like me. isn't the poll that just came out in new hampshire where i'm a very high number, 35%, people like me across the board. evangelicals like me, democrats like me, conservatives like me. everybody likes me. >> and that doesn't make you worry there's something in your message striking the wrong kind of chord with people. >> i hope there's not. >> today trump made his feelings about one infamous racial supremacist very clear. >> trump, who has dismissed some mexican immigrants -- listen to this -- as rapists and criminals, or simply put as hitler. do you believe -- now, the hitler one i've never heard until this morning when i woke up. i'm not a fan of hitler. >> that might disappointment one of the enthused people who
sipped his coffee adorned with a swastika. joining me now, philip bump. the rules of this are difficult, and i'm usually quite hesitant to go down the genre of this group of people with these views that are supporting this candidate because that's an inbound link. they can't necessarily control. in this case, though, in that article and other white supremacists saying what he's saying on immigration resonates with us, it's what we want to hear, no one else is saying it. >> i'd love to see a poll of racists. besides all of this just to see what their core values are. fundamentally what he's talking about with immigration is to the point, america is changing, america is becoming less white. by 2050 there's going to be a population in the hispanic community that's much larger than today. that makes a certain segment of the population nervous. what donald trump is saying is exactly what they want to hear. >> and not only that, he is saying it in ways -- what you get from reading the article in the "new yorker" and listening
to other interviews, he's saying it in a way they are surprised he's getting away with saying it and that is the key point. it is the way he is talking about mexicans, the language he's using, is resonating to the ears of people that are explicit racial supremacists. >> i think part of that is that that message has been out there for a while. there have been candidates who have put forward this idea of coming down very, very hard on immigration for a while but none of them did this well in the primaries. none of them got as much media attention as donald trump is getting. he's managed to blend that idea with his celebrity and with a lot of attention from a lot of different folks to actually raise this to the forefront of the conversation, which is of course freaking out the republican establishment which after 20 12 want to do everything in their power to resolve immigration. >> today there's interesting news that came out that eric cantor is endorsing jeb bush. here is jeb bush getting trounce boy trump. he is trying to carve out some
space to the left of trump on immigration, although he does not favor a path to citizenship. he gets the endorsement from cantor. what did cantor have happen to him? an immigration-driven insurgency that drove him out of office. >> a shocking -- you have to add that word, it was just amazing what happened to him. i think that's what happened here is jeb bush made a strategic decision a short while ago to challenge donald trump. i think he got some numbers back that said there was space in this race to be the non-trump. this eric cantor thing is baffling to people who are thinking about how you organize a base of conservative vote to win some primaries. but from the standpoint of positioning him against trump, it makes sense. >> but the cantor race in retrospect looks so fascinating. >> oh, yeah. >> because that was nobody knew who david kemp was, the guy who unseated him. nobody gave him a shot. what powered him was talk show hosts, laura ingraham one of them, grassroots activists and what they campaigned on was his support against amnesty and on immigration. >> and part of the problem that eric cantor had was that the republican party put this
emphasis on immigration and never got it done. so eric cantor was one of the advocates, leadership of the republican party saying we need to act on immigration. he stuck his neck out and the base reacted. now you're seeing them react even more strongly in this presidential primary and eric cantor is very much emblematic of what the republican party failed to do. >> do you think that if trump goes away tomorrow, this kind of rhetoric that we're seeing on immigration, the kind of language that is appealing to these members of the fringe, those sort of white nationalist fringe, does that go away or does that flow somewhere else? >> i think it probably tamps down. we should be very clear trump is not going away tomorrow. i think a lot of us have predicted many times he's going away but he's not going away tomorrow. i think it gets redirected a little bit and eventually sort of simmers out. i don't think without trump in the race it has the same energy. >> appreciate it. trump's views on immigration are inspiring some of his supporters to take matters into his own hands. he commissioned a billboard warning locals hire an illegal,
break the law. now inspired by donald trump, he's going even further announcing this week he's specifically assigning one of his detectives to the immigration beat in order to take public complaints and tips about undocumented immigrants and businesses that employ them. he's even urging constituents to inform on potential violators. but it turns out the man jones admires may have held very different views on immigration as recently as two years ago. trump met with a group of dreamer activists while exploring a partnership between his beauty pageants and the hispanic heritage awards. lo and behold after hearing activists case while he had this important business venture, he reportedly told them you've convinced me on immigration reform. joining me now, gabby pacheco, one of the activists who met with donald trump two years ago and sheriff richard jones of butler county, ohio. gabby, my understanding is that you were in that meeting with donald trump. what the heck do you make of what has happened since that meeting? >> to say i'm highly
disappointed doesn't begin to cover it. i'm angry. i feel lied to. this man continues to lie to the american people. it's okay if he wanted to do it if he was to sell books, but he is running for president. he met with us. he had 30 minutes. he actually gave us more time than that. was so gracious, was so nice to us. really opened his doors and talked to us and asked questions about immigration and then said you convinced me, i got it. >> okay. sheriff jones, what about trump's message on immigration do you find appealing? do you agree with him that you want to see the federal government actually put in the resources and police powers that would be necessary to round up and deport 11 million people? >> no, never said that. but i do agree with him. this immigration issue, the illegal immigration is too far out of control. the republicans, the democrats won't do anything about it. they have all lied to us for the
past few years. that's why trump's numbers are up. i believe that we've got people here that should not be here. i believe in self-deportation. stop giving the free stuff to these people that are here illegal, the jobs, the money, the welfare. give those to americans. these people will go back on their own. they come back legally through the legal system. sure, i believe that. and when you -- you were talking about me earlier, you talked about the stunts that i did. these weren't stunts, these were actually things that needed to be done. we have people that have been killed in my county by illegals. we have people that have been raped. we have drugs coming in. this is ohio, we're not a border with mexico. >> sheriff, let me ask you this -- well, gaby, do you want to respond? >> the fear mongering is going to continue there. we know it's a fact immigrants have the lowest number of crime in the country. all the stuff is made-up numbers and it's all used to create fear of the other. fear of the fact that this country is changing. by 2030 one in three is going to
be a latino. and, you know, the thing is that this is not a war against race. we don't want to put out the white people. that is not true. that is not something that we've been wanting to do. but unfortunately it is white people that are afraid of us and there's nothing to be afraid of a woman like myself that loves this country, that wants to contribute, that is contributing and doing so much, because this is my nation. this is my country. >> sheriff, let me ask you this. do you -- when you think about america, you talk about immigration. i was just looking at some of the census data for your county. it just seems like there are a lot of issues in your county that have nothing to do with what you have is a very relatively small immigrant population. it seems like a weird thing to emphasize given the scope of some of the challenges facing your county. >> no, not really at all. we have heroin, we have cocaine, we have meth, we have marijuana coming in from mexico. if i have one person that's
raped, killed, car crashes where they leave the scene, that's too much. it's not about brown, it's not about white, it's not racist. if i could deport americans, i would. come to this country legal and if you come here, don't commit a crime. if you come to my county, don't bring the drugs in, don't commit a crime. come here legal. it's against the law to come here and to the employers, i'm asking them to inform on these people that are hiring these people illegal. i can't enforce federal law, but i can enforce state law. and if you violate that law, i'm going to be doing everything in my powers, i can enforce state law. i'm going to be working with the attorney general's office. and when i get the federal complaints, those are going to the federal guys. hey, it is what it is. >> you just said if you could deport american citizens you would. what do you mean by that? >> oh, sure. when i have american citizens that commit murder and child rapists, if there was some country that would take these people, i'd be okay with that. i've always said that.
and if you come from another country and you come here and commit those same crimes, i want to deport you. i want you to stay in your country where you come from. i don't want you to come to this country. most of the people who come to this country come here legally, they come here and they work hard. but it's not the american dream to go to work and these employers take advantage of you. there's 15 in a van shows up for work. they come in, they work you, they fire you, they abuse you, you get hurt in your job, then you go to the hospitals. we all have to pay for it. they have got no rights. the employer says don't come to work. if you think that's the american dream, it's not, believe me. >> gaby, that's a sort of interesting rift there that there's some exploitation happening here that's somehow at the heart of this. >> that is not true and that's been proven time and again, that that's not why people come here. people come here because there are employers that need the labor of immigrants. and, you know, there's this saying that across the border
you have one sign from mexico coming into the u.s. that says "welcome, we need you." on the other side, it's saying, "no, get out." this is microeconomics. the reality is that this country in order for it to be great, one, we do need due process. we do need our judicial system. this is what stands our country against other. but the other thing is that our country needs the labor of immigrants. not only that, immigrants are here to reunite with their families. immigrants are here to go to school, make this country better. and america is america. it's the nation it is because of its immigrants. it's always been a nation of immigrants. >> all right, gaby pacheco and richard jones, i appreciate it. congressman alan grayson means me next. plus president obama visits new orleans on the ten-year anniversary of hurricane katrina. i spoke with white house senior advisor valerie jarrett on the government's response over the
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there's one thing we've learned during the summer of trump, it's this. >> my second favorite book of all time -- what's my first favorite book? the bible. my second favorite book, did you know what i said is my first favorite book? the bible. that's my second favorite book of all time. do you know what my first is? the bible. actually i got my biggest hand the other night when i said that. >> nothing beats the bible. nothing beats the bible. not even "the art of the deal." not even close. >> the bible. it's not even close. >> i love the bible. i love the bible. i went to sunday school. it's not even close, the bible -- it's not even close.
it's not even close, we take the bible all the way. >> nothing beats the bible, not even second favorite book, "the art of the deal" which he co-write himself. not even close. he loves it so much that it's too personal to talk about it in any kind of detail whatsoever. >> i'm wondering what one or two of your most favorite bible verses are and why. >> i wouldn't want to get into it because to me that's very personal. when i talk about the bible it's very personal. >> there's no verse that means a lot to you that you think about or cite? >> the bible means a lot to me but i don't want to get into specifics. >> not even to cite a verse that you like. >> no. >> old testament guy or new testament guy. >> probably equal. the whole bible is incredible. i joke -- they always hold up "the art of the deal." i say my second favorite book of all time. i just think the bible is something very special. sea monster in the water hazard here.
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so far donald trump has divide normal political gravity by managing to maintain his lead in the polls despite outrageous offensive comments and despite picking fights with just about everyone. while the normal mode of politician is trying to be liked, trump seems to try to be hated by a large group of
people. there is another politician whose style has arguably some similarities, someone who has been called the trump of the left. that's congressman alan grayson of florida. one of the outspoken, dogged and at times extremely effective members of congress. >> if you get sick in america, this is what the republicans want you to do. if you get sick, america, the republicans health care plan is this. die quickly. >> they're complaining about the fact that wall street wrecked the economy three years ago and nobody is held responsible for that. not a single person has been indicted or convicted. and that one party is a wholly owned subsidiary of wall street. >> we are creating tens of millions of jobs in other countries with our purchasing power and we are losing tens of millions of jobs in our country because foreigners are not
buying our goods and services. >> what do you have a higher opinion of, congress or dog poop? congress, 40%. dog poop 47%. >> will the gentleman suspend. >> yes. >> congress or dog poop is a favorite clip on the "all in" show. joining me now at the table is alan grayson of florida. several people have called you trump of the left. what do you think of that? >> well, we're both ahead in the polls so i feel good about that. >> you do the thing where you talk about your polling immediately. >> well, the thing, the thing. look, it is true. people have told me over and over again that i'm saying what they're thinking but nobody else is saying. those people say that are good solid democrats, champions of justice and equality and peace. when people say that about trump, that he's saying what they're thinking and nobody else is saying, they're nuts. so that's a pretty fundamental
difference. recognize how narrow his support base really is. only 4% of the public votes in a republican primary. he's got 30% of 4%. we're looking at the worst 1.2% in america. >> wait a second. oh, that's interesting. well, you know, that's actually an interesting perspective. what do you -- what do you make so far of the way the immigration rhetoric has turned, as someone who's from florida. >> yes. >> who, you know, has two people in this race from florida, jeb bush and marco rubio. where the politics sound very different on the ground in florida than they are sounding coming out of donald trump in iowa. >> he's thrown away the dog whistle. it used to be you have to speak in metaphors, now you can just come right out and be racist. you know who likes that? the racists like that. >> are you saying that that's who his supporters are? >> look, you just discussed that on the air yourself. why else would people feel so threatened by brown people if there are no brown people that live anywhere near them. trump himself said that ferguson, a situation that involved white cops, black
citizens, was a result of people coming across the border and going to ferguson. that just shows dementia and racism and discrimination and a mindset that's foreign, literally foreign to foreigners. >> on the democratic side. >> yes. >> hillary clinton, bernie sanders, biden may be getting in. do you have a favorite? >> no, i don't have a favorite. i will say that they're all doing a great job in their own ways. i had a meeting with hillary clinton. she said during that meeting that she thought climate change was an existential threat. i'm very pleased by that. she's come out in favor of voting rights, making college affordable. these are things that matter to me as a liberal democrat, as a proud liberal democrat. i'm pleased to see she's running her campaign in a substantive way. bernie is a gem. he's on the right side of every issue as far as liberal democrats are concerned. biden has taken liberal values and put them inside the white house in the inner circle. and that's something that this
white house has badly needed. >> you're a jewish guy from the bronx. >> yes, i am. >> there has been an incredible both media focus and lobbying focus on jewish members of congress on the issue of the iran deal. >> in fact sometimes i found that media focus creepy and unnerving. like what are the jews doing. >> i've heard that. >> but there is -- there is intense pressure on jewish members of congress particularly. how have you been parsing that pressure? >> well, look, we're in a situation that in my experience is unique. i'll tell you why. generally when we vote on something, we can tell the consequence that we're voting on. you vote for something the world will be one way and if i vote against it's another way. if i vote against soybean imports, i get that. in this case the difference is people on both sides of the argument are saying the opposite things will happen, totally inconsistent things will happen depending upon how we vote and that's something that's genuinely new to me.
so, for instance -- >> have you made up your mind? >> no, i haven't made up my mind. i have not made up my mind. >> that's interesting to me. >> well, i have one group of people who are telling me that if the deal falls through, then iran will come back to the negotiating table and negotiate a deal that's better for us. i have other people who are telling me if the deal falls through, either iran will have a bomb by the end of the year and all their money that they're not getting now because they haven't been paid and in addition to that, we might have a war on our hands. or maybe israel will have a war on its hands. so one of them is horribly wrong. i just don't know which one yet. >> how does the politics of this factor in? you're running for senate in florida. >> yes. >> you're running statewide. >> yes. >> that's going to be a tough race. you're going to have a competitive primary and then a republican opponent if you win that primary.
as a politician, you're an outspoken guy. you seem to be someone who goes with his values, but you've got to be thinking about that general election, that statewide election. >> i've been in politics, i've been out of politics. i spent the first half century of my life without being elected to anything. >> how did you survive? >> somehow i survived. and the fact is if i win, that's great. i passed more amendments than any other member of the house even though i'm a democrat. more grayson bills are now the law of the land than any other member of the house of representatives, even though i'm a democrat and loses on every party line vote. so i try to do good things for people, good, solid progressive things for people. i am that standard bearer. but if i lose next year, so be it. >> when are you going to make up your mind on this iran deal? >> probably not until the ending. i tell you this, not until i've seen all the classified information. we have phone records from the ayatollah saying that if there's no deal, he's going to have a bomb in three months. if we have phone records from the ayatollah saying if there's no deal he's coming back to the negotiating table, that's another thing. these are very important things i need to know.
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agreement which would remove sanctions on iran in exchange to prevent the country from obtaining a nuclear weapon. the president plans to veto the bill and it looks like there would not be enough votes in congress to override a presidential veto which means president obama is almost certain to get the deal. that's the good news but the white house does not want to have to save the deal with a presidential veto which would send the message the president is acting against the wishes of his own congress. so backers of the deal are now trying to secure the support of 41 senate democrats, enough to block that bill, to kill the deal for coming up for a vote boy a filibuster. so far 29 senate democrats have signed up with the president while 15 are undecided. yesterday a group of nearly 200 retired generals and admirals sent a letter to congress urging lawmakers to reject the iran deal, saying it threatens national security. the new letter appeared to be in response to an earlier letter from a different group of
retired generals and admirals who support the deal. so there were a few names that jumped out at me from that new letter. the first was retired lieutenant general william jerry boykin. in 2004 the pentagon faulted boykin for casting -- he once said i knew my god was bigger than his. i knew that my god was a real god and his was an idol. then there's these two. john poindexter and richard sea cord, both of whom signed the letter opposing iran and were central figures in the iran contra scandal in which the reagan administration secretly and illegally shipped arms to the iranian regime, the same regime that is in place today. that's who wants to tell us what to do with iran. of course when they decided to actually ship missiles to that regime, the iranians, they didn't bother to ask the senate for an up or down vote. thousands of people saw their homes destroyed, livelihoods wiped out, hopes and
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thousands of people saw their homes destroyed, livelihoods wiped out, hopes and dreams shattered. what started out as a natural disaster became a manmade disaster. a failure of government to look out for its own citizens. >> hurricane katrina hit the gulf coast ten years ago this week, and the pain of the last decade, more than 1800 deaths, tens of thousands of displaced residents, was felt hardest in new orleans. but 80% of the city flooded, damages were estimated to be in excess of $200 billion. neighborhoods like the lower ninth ward where the president spoke today to commemorate the storm's tenth anniversary, a neighborhood that had the highest rate of black homeownership in the country before katrina was virtually wiped out. by most accounts the entire gulf coast has made enormous strides since the storm.
we've seen an excellent array of journalism this week point out how far things have come. when it comes to how new orleans residents perceive the recovery, it depends very much on who you ask. according to a fascinating survey, nearly 80% of white new orleans residents say louisiana has mostly recovered since the storm, while almost 60% of black people say the opposite, the state has mostly not recovered. i got a chance to ask valerie jarrett, senior advisor to the president, what the federal government's role in the recovery effort and specifically the white house's strategy in those rebuilding efforts. >> when the president came into office, he followed through on his pledge that he made when he visited houston just a week after the hurricane and spoke to the folks who had been displaced, which is that they deserve a government that is a good partner, that is not an obstacle, that is there and engaged with the folks on the local level. we've had a great working relationship with mayor landrieu
and he's pulled together so many amazing people in not just new orleans but there are certainly people throughout the gulf who as a result of their grit and fortitude and resilience have rebuilt. we've seen small businesses grow by 40% compared to other small businesses in the gulf. 60% compared to the rest of the country. these entrepreneurs who want to get back and contribute to the community. one of the many efforts we have been engaged in is rebuilding the housing. we have rebuilt 98% of the public housing that was lost as a result of katrina and we have doubled the number of low income units in the community. i think one of the concerns that people have raised is as the community starts to experience a rebirth, are the people who are most vulnerable in need of that housing losing their housing. so doubling those low income units was very important. but i would also hasten to add, chris, we still have a long way to go. ten years seems like a long time, but as many have commented, many of the challenges that we saw in new orleans and throughout the gulf began long before katrina hit. what katrina did was to put a national spotlight on an ongoing challenge.
and so what the president has committed to do since day one is to ensure that every american has opportunity. we improve our school system, we make college more affordable, we help our small businesses particularly grow and expand. and the government is there to cut red tape. we're there to streamline the process. we're there to be a productive partner and certainly not an obstacle. >> there's been a lot of reporting about the ways new orleans has changed, specifically new orleans in the aftermath. and the fact that when you look at some of the indicators you know, and a lot of that appears to be people who were permanently displaced, who were very poor, who had around them communities that were under siege from a variety of different fronts who did not return and who have been replaced by essentially more affluent people. this is the kind of turnover. we're seeing it demographically, in just median income numbers and education numbers. what is the federal role in making sure that new orleans
doesn't essentially become a place unaffordable or inhoss pitable to folks who have been there for generations. >> part of what the federal government can do is to provide affordable housing. one of the first challenges that you see in areas that are experiencing a rebirth, which is a good thing, you want them to experience a rebirth. but you want to make sure you're not displacing people who want to live in the community. so by restoring 98% of the hard units of public housing, by providing vouchers when put together with the public housing doubled the number of low income homes that are available in the community is a very important contribution that the federal government can make to ensuring that you don't have gentrification that leads to displacement. and that's a strategy that we deploy around the country, as you're seeing our efforts in low income communities and helping build mixed income communities. we want to make sure that it's not going to lead to displacement. >> and let me ask you this.
you talked about resilience and i know there's been a tremendous amount of money put into that resilience from a variety of different sort of agencies. i've done some reporting on some of the work the corps did in the aftermath, specifically on the levee system. are you confident, is the president confident, is this administration confident that the corps, the army corps who are ultimately responsible for those levees, have done what they need to do, have reformed themselves in ways they needed to reform to make sure that something like this can't happen again? >> i do think that we have professionalized our response and our ability to streamline and act quickly. do we need more money for infrastructure? yes, we do. the job is not completed yet and the president has been call on congress for years now to take our nation's needs for infrastructure seriously. new orleans is not the only city in the country that is
desperately in need of infrastructure dollars. so we have a broader responsibility to provide that infrastructure, including additional resources in the gulf. >> all right, valerie jarrett, thank you very much, appreciate it. >> you're welcome. thank you, chris, for putting a spotlight on this really important issue. >> you bet. still to come, my interview with the number one men's tennis player in the world, novak djokovic, about his career and work on children's rights. ♪ ♪ ♪ if you can't stand the heat, get off the test track. get the mercedes-benz you've been burning for
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the biggest opponent you can have is actually yourself. and if you're able to overcome those challenges, those mental obstacles, you're able to actually, you know, portray and perform -- portray your biggest strengths and abilities on the court because that's what you want. sometimes your mind plays with you and you're not able to perform as well as you perform, for example, in the practice sessions on the same day and then all of a sudden just that changes because you have so much distractions, thoughts, things that are influencing your own core behavior. >> and you're constantly pushing them out? >> yes, you are. i would say the right way into to suppress those emotions, the right way is to encounter them, try to embrace them, be aware of their presence but also try to have your convictions, convictions of self-belief and confidence stronger than those negative thoughts. >> the number one tennis player in the world, novak djokovic, sharing his advice on how to stay focused during some of the
most intense sporting competitions in the world. he's won nine grand slam tournaments in his career, including a third title at wimbledon this year and heads to the u.s. open next week as the top seed in the men's competition. off the court, djokovic is a philanthropist. for years his foundation has tried to help the most vulnerable children born in serbia and around the world. yesterday he was appointed a good will ambassador for unicef and his foundation entered to promote world health. i asked him about his family, his career, his foundation and why it's so crucial to help children in the earliest stages of their lives. >> it's important to dedicate your time and attention to a child, not underestimate the fact that if your child cannot speak maybe at a certain age that the child does not understand you, they just express themself in a different way. so through this early child development, we've been trying to make a positive impact in serbia through our foundation, and this event is such an important and serious event for
our foundation, for our country in general because we're partnering with the world bank as one of the strongest partners we can have, but also becoming today a worldwide global ambassador of unicef family so i'm very honored to have that role. >> can you think -- you grew up in serbia during the war. you had a sort of unique experience because you're playing tennis and you're traveling to a certain extent. can you think of concrete ways in which people in your life, friends of yours, other kids, where you saw that firsthand adverse effects of the war on how they developed? >> yes. i've experienced that myself, obviously. and i think because of the personal experience, many people can relate to what i went through, and i can relate to what many children are experiencing right now.
so having those circumstances in my very early childhood allows me to appreciate things in life more now and allows me to actually with that knowledge and experience in life, you know, have a better approach to the mission, you know, and to the quest of helping the children have the right that they deserve. that's the right for education that nobody can take away from them, to grow and play in a very stimulative safe settings and environments, still while caring and respecting others and their society. >> you started this foundation, you're doing this work now. do you think about the fact that you're going to spend most of your life not being a professional tennis player? like the thing that you do better than basically anything in the world is going to be taken away from you by age? >> well, it's a good question actually because most of the athletes get overconsumed by what they do, so sometimes you just lose track of, you know, envisioning your future.
what is your future after tennis, because fortunately all of us athletes have certain durability. the time is ticking. i've been trying, obviously, to take care of my body. >> you've done that pretty well. >> and play as long as possible, but i'm also aware of the fact that that's not going to go forever and that i'll have a long time after that to do something else. but i'm already, you know, being here today, preparing myself for that and really proactively being involved in many different fields of life, many activities, many things that make me really happy. i'm fortunate that i can afford myself to really be involved in certain activities, programs that really interest me, you know. that fulfill me and make me feel happy, so philanthropy is definitely one of them and that's a field of life where i see myself very active after tennis. >> if someone is going to be a world class tennis player like yourself, they have to start
very early. so what is the plan with your child? do they get a choice? >> well, yes. i've been getting a question when my -- there is not a question whether my son will play tennis, it's a question when he will start. so i will definitely not make my son play tennis. if you ask me now, i don't know if i would like him to go through the same thing. >> do you mean that? >> as i did. yeah, i do mean that. but again, as a parent, my only responsibility is to get him on the right path, to give him the education, the access to the right information, stimulative environment and foremost and most importantly is for him to be happy. whatever he wants to choose to do, i'm there to support him.
>> if you think back to the childhood that you had and the intensity of that, the training. >> yes. >> is that something that's exactly what i want for my kid or i want to protect him from that? >> well, i assume it's a combination. you know, it's logical to expect that he will not go through the same kind of circumstances and life path as i did, because luckily we can -- you know, we have a different life now, we can afford many other things. but i think it's important for him to have the awareness about the reality of his country and his people. you know how people are and children, his generation is growing up there. so he's going to be very much involved in education and foundations process, i think. that's what both my wife and i would love him to do, to be involved a lot in the foundation. he's going to volunteer a lot in
the programs. >> novak djokovic, really a pleasure. thank you very much. >> thank you. that is "all in" for this evening. join us again tomorrow night. "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. >> thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. the great tim russert was the host, the moderator of "meet the press" on nbc from 1991 until he died suddenly and unexpectedly in 2008. tim russert was only 58 years old when he died. which is hard to believe now, looking back on him and his legacy, because it really feels like tim russert was a journalistic institution. we still feel his loss so acutely. but in the business that i'm in now, there are times when you have to dig back through the archives. you have to go through the