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somebody said that donald trump does not have a temperament. i have the right yeah, i feel like i'm in good shape. you have to be careful. and the doctor said, i don't know, 110 blood pressure. the doctor said you have the blood pressure of a great athlete. this sim possible. i have really low -- can you imagine if i had high blood pressure. would i be in trouble? i wouldn't be here. i would have exploded 20 years ago. it's true. >> oh, my goodness. it's friday. and it's going to be a good day. we have donald trump coming on in the next hour. scott walker will be on the show. welcome, everybody. happy friday. >> it's been great. >> we have managing editor of bloomberg politics mark halpe n halperin, senior editor for the huffington post sam stein. what, jen? >> and richard haas. what?
>> what is going on? >> nothing is going on. nobody knows what you're talking about. it's not nice to keep people out. so this is -- and you were working on a triple source something. potentially pertaining to hillary clinton. >> yes, stand by. reporting live on the set. >> i'm waiting. get that third source. and while do you that, donald trump was back on the stump in south carolina yesterday where he railed against his coverage in "the new york times." >> so i wake up this morning and "new york times." i love "the new york times." it's great. but i see a story on the front page. i'm always on the front page of "the new york times" now. we're going to set a record for that, too. do you mind if i put on my glasses? does anybody mind? the print gets smaller and smaller and smaller as they lose more and more money. it's tough. it's true. trump gets earful in spanish as latino outlets air disdain. i'm just saying what does that
mean? and they start up -- this is on the front page. so they say here, this is a different person. front page. ricardo sanchez known as elmandriel on his spanish drive time radio show in los angeles has taken to calling donald j. trump el hombre del peloquin. in other words, the man of the toupee. this is on the front page of "the new york times." i don't wear a toupee. it's my hair. i swear. come here. come here. come here. i'm going to -- we're going to settle this. you know, barbara walters did it. barbara walters named me the bus or whatever of the year. you have to do an inspection. this is getting crazy.
this is crazy. just real quick. we don't want to mess it up too much. i do use hair spri. come. come. is it mine? look. >> it is. say it, please. >> yes, i believe it is. >> thank you. >> and have i ever met you before? no. >> oh, my god. that's an old trick, trump. and it's real. whatever. trump had even more to say about the paper and the media coverage of him. >> it gets worse. don't worry. trump whose dismissed some mexican immigrants -- listen to this -- as rapists and criminals or simply put, as hitler. do you believe -- the hitler one i never heard of until this morning when i woke up. i'm not a fan of hitler. so now they just added the rapist -- they added hitler into
it. so then -- which is all false, by the way, and they know it. the news media -- can you have it. anybody want it? although live cameras back there are going to test me. you know, i can't even exaggerate anymore. it's true. they're testing me all the time. he said this. it wasn't quite that way. he said the art of the deal is the greatest selling business book of all time. i think it was. but now i say one of them. that way i can't get in trouble. i think it was. >> trump also announced yesterday that he is teaming up with one of his rivals in the race for the republican nomination. he will join senator ted cruz on capitol hill next month for a rally to oppose the iran nuclear deal. richard, is opposition building up steam? it seems to me this is going to make it through. or is this more of a political move purely? >> opposition to iran agreement is real. but i think the so-called
resolution of disapproval against it will pass. the president will then veto and the veto will stand. but this is still going to become for many people one of the votes that's going to have long term consequences. it's going to resonate. it's going to become a defining vote for a lot of people. but if you're asking me will the united states opt out of this, the answer is no. >> we'll be talking more about that later. are you good to go? >> i was going to say it may be filibustered in the senate. the president may not have to veet yoet resolution. >> okay, there you go. we could have started with this story. it was giving you a little more time. pretty big story this morning in politics. hillary clinton has been hitting her republican rivals on women's health issues since she launched her campaign. but yesterday she took the attacks a step further. really forcefully. clinton was campaigning in ohio when she had this to say. take a listen. >> extreme views about women, we expect that from some of the terrorist groups. we expect that from people who
don't want to live in the modern world. but it's a little hard to take coming from republicans who want to be the president of the united states. yet they espouse out of date and out of touch policies. they are dead wrong for 21st century america. we're going forward. we're not going back. >> okay, who wants to start? mark halperin? what's going on here? i -- i think that might have been a bridge too far. i understand the point here. but there is something else going on? >> it's an important week in the hillary clinton campaign. they're trying to put the e-mail controversy behind them. >> look at the bird. look at the bird. >> there's a little bit of that, for sure. the dnc meeting is taking place right now in minnesota. but joe biden is thinking about whether to get into the race. hillary clinton's poll numbers are not doing well. they're trying to do a variety of things to move on.
important week, first, she did the thing where she tried to change her tone and take more responsibility on the e-mails. two, she is escalating the rhetoric against the republicans to show democrats she's going to fight hard to rally the base. and they're doing a number of things to try to show -- to project force and confidence that she is the inevitable democrat. >> there is one thing you're missing, we're about to enter a government funding phase that might very well shut down over the funding of planned parenthood. so i think she's trying to get those ducks in a row. >> so the issues are obviously going to be part of the debate. i don't think it was out of left field. but the front page of "the new york times" today,en that is after the more contrite tone that she took about the e-mail controversy. it's not any better. in fact, it shows a growing number of supporters, donors, members of the party who are just wondering what's going on in term of her handling of the e-mail issue? and it really is at this
point -- it seemed -- i want to be careful with my words. it just seemed out november where that attack. maybe legitimate but the parallel to terrorism seemed kind of not -- not in tune with how she sounded at all. i'm hedging here. i don't want to accuse her of something. but it doesn't seem -- >> i think the analogy was not right, obviously. over the top. i'm not sure fit was meant to distract. this is a big issue. >> politically, she's smarter than that analogy i guess is my point. >> two things. to focus on this issue is good for her and for the democrats. there will be lots of issues from planned parenthood to abortion and so forth. we're getting women out to vote in large numbers and percentages is a possibility. but i said i have a rule about politics. there are three things i would never do, don't compare things to hitler. you don't compare diplomacy to appease. and you don't compare people to
terrorists. those are three things you ought to keep out. >> can i talk? >> i'm sorry. >> good morning, joe! >> i've been sitting for eight months and you cut me off. >> the rnc was quick to respond to the comments but i'll let you do it first. >> it was disgusting. it was absolutely disgusting. hillary clinton saying that -- >> i was truing to be careful. >> i mean, let's tell the truth. she wanted us to talk about this. she wanted to throw a bright shiny object out there. so they don't -- so they don't talk about the e-mail scandal. and so she has to be so hyperbolic and insulting and quite frankly just -- it's gutter politics at its worst to compare people to radical terrorist that's cut off people's head and blow up grand moms. it's not all right. and we've seen by reporting what these terrorists do to young girls, the sexual slavery is
absolutely appalling and what hillary clinton did is compare somebody who is pro-life -- which is close to 50% of americans -- to radical terrorists. this is like barack obama. is this the radicalism we've been talking about the craziness of the republican party. but is this the sick radicalism that is now infecting the democratic party that if you're barack obama you compare chuck schumer to people shouting death to america in iran? and if you're hillary clinton, you compare pro-life democrats and republicans to isis? what happened here yesterday? this is so over the top. >> if a republican did this the world would come to a halt. >> the world would come to a halt. >> it should be condemned in strong terms. i'm hoping and i suspect she'll take it back today. >> so the rnc -- >> why would she take it back? >> i think she might. >> you know what she was doing
during the most disgusting part? she was reading notes. this was planned. and the campaign said she has no plans to apologize and now she's accusing republicans of twisting her words. this is a strategy of her to be -- to engage in gutter politics to distract from the fact the fbi is investigating her because she's been called a liar by the american people. she's just going to try to change the subject. democrats are concerned about what's going on should just be more concerned this morning. >> i want to take a look at this. it's not a long -- it's very strong and forceful. i'm not sure how she takes it back. let's just play it. >> she says she's not going to. she's proud of herself. >> extreme views about women, we expect that from some of the terrorist groups. we expect that from people who don't want to live in the modern world. but it's a little hard to take
coming from republicans who want to be the president of the united states. yet, they espouse out of date and out of touch policies. they are dead wrong for 21st century america! we're going forward. we're not going back! >> yeah, there were notes. that's written. >> mark? >> maybe she's looking ahead. >> what would happen if scott walker who is going to be on today compared barack obama to islamic terrorists because he was pro-choice and scott walker said he wants to slaughter innocence just like isis because he's pro abortion. >> the world would come to a halt. there would be editorials in every up into demanding' pollingize. >> sam? >> we know what would happen, right? mike huckabee said that barack obama was leading people to the oven and there was widespread
condemnation about that. i think we know what would happen. the one part -- i said while you were sitting here quietly, i said i disagreed with the analogy. but i disagree with the idea that this is a strategy. i think -- i do think that the news -- i do think there is a genuine concern on the campaign trail about women's health issues partially tide to the fact that planned parenthood funding is going to be targeted during the government shutdown. i don't think this is a side show. i think this is something the campaign wanted to focus on and will focus on for the rest of the campaign. >> and i said after the first debate, and i think mark and i were talking about this. okay, well so if you're keeping score at home, marco rubio and scott walker against abortion, it's going to be very big issue. that's one thing. comparing them to isis is quite another. but there's no doubt in my mind, maybe it's just the politician in me, that they're like let's
distract. and look at what we're doing. >> yeah. >> we're talking about this offensive -- >> i'm not sure that's the strategy. but you know what? if she just talked about it in a respectful, decent humane way, we wouldn't be talking about it today. we would be talking about her e-mails. >> her e-mails are one of her problems currently. bernie sanders is a problem. her poll numbers and what people think of her truthfulness which is related to the e-mail -- >> 60% say clinton is not honest and trustworthy. >> the fact she's part of the establi establishment is a problem. and what she's trying to do is move at 1,000 miles per hour to move so fast that she creates a lot of confusion. >> exactly. if you want to be right with words, nobody ever stops when you you're going 90 miles an hour. that's what she's doing. >> and are that rhetoric and frequent attacks on republicans, using rhetoric like that. this is the most over the line she's been. she said other things like this
is to try to be going 90 miles an hour and, you know, one thing bill clinton says is it's better to be strong and wrong than right and weak. she is trying to look strong. >> richard? >> all of the above. and also there is one other thing here which is that she wants to prove to democrats that she's the right person to be their nominee. and by doing this kind of stuff it's a way to some extent make people rethink their rethinking of vice president biden. it is always hard to talk about motives. i think sam's point and what i tried to make is in the long run this is a general lection. >> how does it play in the general election, mika, do you think if you have barack obama comparing chuck schumer to iranian terrorists and you have hillary clinton comparing 50% of america who are pro-life to islamic terrorists? >> look, i -- >> but there's another issue in the general election. there are exceptions for mothers --
>> my question is, we're just talking about tone and we spent the past several months -- we spent the past several months talking about donald trump's tone and donald trump's over the line and donald trump offended megyn kelly and he tells a joke and donald trump offended every hispanic because he didn't let jorge ramos give speeches. i will ask the question again. >> okay! i'm ready. >> how will that play in the general election? >> it's not playing well. i don't get it. i don't think this should be this hard for her. and this latest story is just -- i'm perplexed by it. she has been around. her husband knows politics. you don't prepare and write it
and deliver it and sit down and read it and republicans and pro-life people are terrorists. >> there are so many great things you can say about where women need to go and what women need in order to take care of themselves and their families and their health. and planned parenthood. there are so many things that could be said about these issues without saying that. that we would love to hear. >> yeah. >> just like mike huckabee could have said 1,000 things without talking about marching people to the oven. by the way, for people at home, went after mike huckabee for doing that then. so did the mainstream media. let's see what the "new york times" editorial page says about this. because mr. rosenthal. you should write an editorial about hillary clinton's language. you talk about the language on the right. here's the language on the left. barack obama comparing chuck schumer and other supporters of the deal with iranian
terrorists. and people against the idea. and now here we have hillary clinton doing it on the left. mika makes the most important point, the clintons have been doing this since 1978. they know exactly what they're doing. >> they know how to do this. >> they did this to district. i'm sorry, i played politics before. they did this to distract people from the e-mail story for one day. >> what happens if you see a turtle on a fence post? >> it didn't get there by accident. >> right now if the republicans nominate someone strong, she's going to have to win with a huge gender gap on the female side. huge. she thinks and her advisors think this is the way to stake it. >> who is the turtle in this one? >> all right. still ahead -- >> what she said. it doesn't happen by accident. >> i'm trying to work that out. >> bill clinton's quote is, it's
a great quote. >> if you see a turtle on a fence post, you know it didn't get there by itself. >> to bill clinton is the turtle? >> no, sam. >> you know what? that's a great quote for donald trump. people say he's such a clown, it's one of the things we've said all along. you said it, too, for several years. if a guy comes from queens, he takes over the manhattan real estate market, becomes a dominant force in the real estate market, his name is on a dozen buildings, makes billions of dollars and the only thing the manhattan snobs can say is he's not really worth $10 billion, i think it's only 2 or 3. he has one of the best-selling books of all time. i mean you're on tv on prime time for 14 years in a row? i mean, it doesn't happen by descent. >> so donald trump is the turtle? >> oh, my gosh. >> this makes donald trump can be the turtle, too. >> happily. >> still ahead -- >> it's friday. >> take your narrow shoulders
and your soy latte and thin ties and your xbox and -- sam, how many fantasy football leagues are you and your friends in now? >> i'm about to have my second draft. >> oh, my gosh. >> see, millennials. they drive you crazy. i'm going to sound like an old man. >> xbox. hold the thunder. >> come on now, mark. come on. >> boys. still ahead, it's busy day for presidential candidates on "morning joe." we'll talk live to republican frontrunner donald trump and governor scott walker will also be our guest. plus, reverend al is here. we'll look at how new orleans is marking ten years since hurricane katrina. and up next, a camera man discovers how can you slow down olympic gold medalist usain bolt. what? no. did not do that. >> oh, my god! >> did not do that. but first, here is bill karins with a check --
>> are you kidding me? >> i know, fastest man in the world almost taken out. >> when we were down in a hurricane, i actually did that to bill karins while he was reporting on the hurricane. >> that had nothing to do with anything. >> he did the whole squat hibehd me and mika pushed me. all eyes on erika. only a tropical storm. the island of dough minutica got hit hard. they had 12 inches of rain in a very short period of time. the island is very flood prone and mudslides are a problem too. four fatalities. there say couple people still missing. a lot of cleanup just from a very weak tropical storm. so what happened overnight? erika didn't get stronger. wind are at 45 miles per hour. it's just passed puerto rico heading for the dominican republic. mostly good news in the forecast trend for the united states. for the dominican republic and puerto rico, a lot of rain today, possibility for flash flooding. the reason i say good news for florida and southeast, more land interaction means a weaker storm
about it time it gets to the united states. it's close to the cuba coastline as we go through saturday and sunday. so as long as it's not sitting over the open warm water, it will be a weaker storm. and the hurricane center forecast actually takes it from south to north right up the florida peninsula as we go throughout monday, tuesday, wednesday much we still have flooding problems. worse case scenario is it's on coastal florida or the warm water. maybe we get up to a hurricane category 1. at this time weeshgs goi, we're avoid a big storm that can do devastation. florida can use the rainfall. we'll keep an eye on it. the forecast trend is better for florida than it was even just two days ago. leave with you a shot of new york city. get ready for some heat. it's going to be a warm weekend and a hot next week all through areas of the east coast. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. behold, these are two wind turbines. can you spot the difference? the wind farm on the right was created using digital models and real world location-based specs that taught it how to follow the wind.
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new orleans yesterday after hurricane katrina struck. it was once 17 feet under water. you cautioned that more work remains as part of the recovery. he also praised new orleans for its resilience after such a poor response by all level of government. this was something that was supposed to the never happen here, maybe some place else but not here, not in america. and we came to realize that what started out as a natural disaster became a man made disaster. a failure of government to look out for its own citizens. because of you, the people of new orleans working together, this city is moving in the right direction. and i have never been more confident that together we will get to where we need to go. [ applause ] >> you inspire me. >> from "the new york times," a grizzly discovery on an us
aindustryian highway highlighted the toll within their borders, 71 deexpocomposing bodies were d inside a truck. women and children were among the dead. the discovery loomd over the summit of eu leaders who gathered in nearby vienna to discuss the refugee crisis. germany alone expecting 800,000 refugees this year. this is an issue we need to talk about. >> we really do. >> mika is involved -- >> unhcr. >> on the refugee issue and has been and very concerned about it. but richard this is something that we expect to hear from migrants being smuggled from mexico into texas. we certainly don't expect to hear it in austria, right outside of vienna. talk about the crisis growing in europe. >> it's largely coming out of the middle east. it's on a scale of world war ii. you're talking about millions and millions of people, many of whom we would class as refugees
because they're being driven by political conditions. europe doesn't have the physical or legal capacity in place to deal with this. once you get into the european union, you're in the european union. you have an old version of europe coming against the realities of the new middle east. europe is being overwhelmed. this is an awful, terrible human tragedy. it's one of the many -- look at syria alone. what it is, over 10 million, 12 million people have been made homeless. some are internally displaced. several million made refugees, in many in jordan, turkey and elsewhere. if i'm right and the middle east boils for 20, 30 years this is not a short lived this. this is the new abnormal. europe just doesn't have the resources. >> it's horrific. you're right. this is on the scale of what was happening in europe in 1945, 1946. >> this is far beyond anything -- >> this is actually. >> and the numbers, the percentages to talk about
germany that, would mean for us like 10 million. we're talking about a scale that is really inconceivable. this is nothing like our issues with the south. >> and this from the chicago tribune, dramatic video found in the northeastern chinese city shows the moment when a ten foot sink hole suddenly opened up on saturday swallowing five people waiting at a bus stop. four people sustained minor injuries in the incident which was captured by a noodle shop surveillance camera. >> and from the bbc, how a scary moment involving sprinter usain bolt happened yesterday in beijing. bolt was celebrating the win of the 200 meter sprint in the world championships with a victory lap when a camera man lost control of a segue he was riding and crashed into the fastest man in the world. the gold medal win dner did a backward roll and got on his feet continuing with the celebration. oh, my gosh. how dangerous.
he made sure the cameraman was okay and said accidents happen. but at the same time, yikes. very dangerous. >> that's what nice of him the way he handled it. coming up, former pennsylvania governor ed rendell is standing by. why he says there is nothing hillary clinton's campaign can do now to stop her e-mail controversy. we'll be right back. discover card hey! so i'm looking at my bill and my fico credit score's on here. yeah! we give you your fico credit score. for free! awesomesauce! the only person i know that says that is... lisa? julie? we've already given more than 175 million free fico credit scores to our cardmembers. apply today at discover.com so, i tried depend last weekend. it really made the difference between a morning around the house and getting a little exercise. and i tried a baking class. one weekend can make all the difference.
i saw it as a matter of convenience and it was allowed. others had done it. yoga routines, family vacations, the other things you typically find in inboxes. >> everybody is acting like there is the first time it's happened. it happens all the time. >> did you wipe the server? >> like with a cloth or something? well, no. by the way, you may have seen that i recently launched a snapchat account. i love it. i love it. those messages disappear all by themselves. >> wow. joining us now, former democratic chairman and former governor of pennsylvania ed rendell. you've been kind of outspoke been the way hillary clinton and her campaign have operated thus far. in "the new york times," you say
in part this, this is your quote, "they've handled the e-mail issue poorly, maybe aproeshsly, certainly horribly. the campaign has been incredibly tone deaf, not seeing this as a more serious issue. she should have turned over the e-mail server at the start because they should have known they'd be forced to give it up. but at this point, there is nothing they can do to kill the issue. they're just -- they're left just playing defense." >> ed, i was on "hardball" with new 2000 when you accidentally told the truth about al gore losing. you were the first to tell the truth to america. hey, this is -- he's not going to win. you explained to everybody why and democrats got really angry and really agitated. you told the truth. they needed to know the truth. you're telling the truth again here. don't you think hillary clinton would have been better serve philadelphia more democrats, leaders like you had told her the truth several months ago? >> well, sure. i think that's the problem with
campaigns. campaigns first instincts are to do damage control. often the best damage control is to say, look, we made a mistake. there's no question about it. we're turning everything over. it is serious. we understand that. we understand people have legitimate worries about whether there was classified material. i think what i said in there about there is nothing they can do, they have to wait until all the investigations are over. and it's my belief that it will find that there is nothing that was marked classified at the time that she either received or sent out. >> but, ed, you know though -- and i appreciate you coming on and trying to be loyal to a friend. but you know that is the same thing as a shoplifter going before a judge and said, judge, yes, i shoplifted 1,000 items, but there is nothing on any of these items that i shoplifted that said do not shoplift. i mean it's a responsibility of the shoplifter to know you can't
shoplift things. as you know, in the classified world, it's responsibility of a person handling classified information to know whether it's classified or not. >> but you're going to have independent reviews. the state department has already said that nothing that they sent out or received was marked classified. >> i know. i'm saying. that's irrelevant. but that's irrelevant. that is a distinction without a difference. >> again, joe -- >> i know not to shoplift blazers that i like even if there is not a labeling on them that says do not shoplift. the judge is going to hold me accountable to that standard. you and i both know. i'm not being short. we both know that when shez shooez before she's before a judge, the judge doesn't matter if it is marked classified or not. didn't give a damn about secretary petraeus. it's irrelevant. >> i agree. she stated she shouldn't have used two different systems. my question is this was all done, other secretaries of state have done it.
she was in accord with policies and regulation that's were in effect when she was secretary of state. if none of it turns out to be classified documents that were harmful to the country, then she may have used bad judgement and she's acknowledged that. but where's the problem here? >> there's a lot to unpack there. the obama administration, you know this, too, the obama administration's outrage that she ignored a clear 2009 regulation and she ignored guidelines where they specifically told everybody in her position at the head of agencies that they had to save any correspondence inside the agency itself. mark halperin is here and would love to ask you a question. >> oh, so many ways to go here. governor, you say other secretaries of state have done this. what other secretaries of state had private servers on which they conducted official business? >> they had separate e-mail accounts. >> yeah, but none of them had private servers. the answer is none. let me ask you a different
question. right now you seem to be saying they're not handling it well. forget what she did in the past. what are the specific steps regarding what she takes responsibility for and any action she should take regarding the server and her e-mails? what specific steps should she take now? >> i think she's taken the steps. she turned over the server. she turned over all the e-mail that's are available. and i think we're going to have to wait until this plays out. >> has she taken specific responsibility? not just general i take responsibility. are there certain things you would like to see her say that she did that was wrong? >> i think she's acknowledged it. what she did was the wrong way to go. i think she's acknowledged that. i think she'll continue to acknowledge. that i do think we have to wait. every time there is a rush to judgment like "the new york times" rush to judgment and said there was a criminal investigation. they had to take the back. every time there is a rush to
judgment, something goes wrong. i think we'll have plenty of time. iowa is five months from now. we'll have plenty of time to let this play out. when it plays out, the american people will see there was nothing that she did that was -- endangered the country at all. >> governor, let me ask you. do you think she's in the same situation that chris christie was in where he wasn't able to move ahead with his campaign successfully until all the bridge investigations were behind him? it sounds like you think that's where hillary is right now. she really can't recover until all the investigations are behind her. >> i think that's correct as to this one issue, joe. i think she can go on with her campaign. it was interesting. i was out in minneapolis yesterday representing the host committee. i chair the host committee for the convention in philadelphia. and i talk to a lot of the dnc del ca delegates. it is amazing that the delegates are not elected officials.
they're party workers, they're the loyal party workers. and everyone there is sticking with her. and the general feeling is we love vice president biden. but we hope he doesn't run because we don't want to see two people we love fighting with each other. i think democrats and the polls are fairly reflective of. this the polls that had joe biden and bernie sanders and hillary in those polls, the democrats are staying with her. >> all right. ed, thank you for being us with. we always appreciate it. you're great. how are the eagles going to look this year? >> 11-5. they'll make the playoffs and the play-offs are a crap shoot. >> okay. >> ed, thank you. >> just like political campaigns. >> absolutely. >> summer of trump turns into the fall of trump and perhaps the winter of trump. i thought -- and we're going to have donald trump on in about 20 minutes. here's what peggy nunian says. america is no so in play. the traditional mediating or guiding institutions within the
republican universe, it's establishment, respected voices and conservative media, state party officials have little to no impact in mr. trump's rise. some say voices of authority should stand up and oppose -- to oppose him which will lower the standing. but republican powers don't have that kind of juice anymore. mr. trump supporters aren't just bucking a party, they're bucking everything around within and connected to it. something is going on. some plates are moving in interesting ways. america is so in play. and the base isn't the limited cliche thing it once was. it's becoming a big broad jumble that few understand. >> sam stein, the very people that have been the guiding voices of the conservative movement for a long time, george will, charles krouthammer, fox news, the republican establishment, national review, the weekly standard. >> new yorker.
>> yeah. very funny. name all of them. and they've all bucked him. they've all yelled. they all were screaming much. >> except for one. >> who? >> talk radio. talk radio loves him. loves him. but this is a phenomenon that we're seeing on both sides of the ledger, right snt institution that's traditionally find political parties don't have the clout they once did. you can see it on the democratic side, too. every endorsement for hillary clinton is there. but she's still not doing as well as she could in the polls. i think there say phenomenon happening on both sides. >> and nobody knows what's going on. >> i think it is trumpism. that is a big deal in terms of you got lots of people who are out of work that are never going back to work. you have technology in this country and around the world displacing jobs permanently. you have an education system that isn't preparing people. social security not going to be enough to get people through retirement. demographically this country is changing. what he is tapping, into i think, is a really broad and deep unease about the present
and future of this country. so i don't know -- i'm not smart enough to predict his candidacy. but the sort of issues he's running on this disquiet this populous this is not going away. there is going to affect both parties. you know what this reminds me of in sn this is europe. the united states, the politics of this country in many ways are beginning to look a lot like the politics of europe, personalities, people and parties on the far right and left. this is a very different situation. peggy is right about what she is writing about. >> except we're not a parliamentary system. >> we're becoming one. >> all right, turtle. still ahead, we'll talk to the gop front-runner for 2016, donald trump and fellow candidate governor scott walker will also join us. up next, it's the question all of washington wants to know. will joe biden run for president? mike allen thinks he has the answer. shopping online... ...is as easy as it gets. wouldn't it be great if hiring plumbers, carpenters and even piano tuners... were just as simple? thanks to angie's list, now it is. start shopping online...
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before we get to the consensus, say it. >> happy friday. >> what did you find out? >> you know this is the political caucus, our weekly poll of insiders in iowa and new hampshire so those local elected officials, those party operatives who drive the conversations in these states and we ask them will joe biden run? and overwhelming answer, 83% say no he won't. asking should he run? 75% of democrats saying no way. he won't. this is very congruent with what we're hearing in washington this week, seeming less likely.
people who talk to the vice president telling our glen thrush as they talk to the vice president on the calls where he's assess wing whether there would be support, he said he doesn't sound like himself. a little bit all over the map. we saw josh earnest at the white house saying that president had said that he wanted to give joe biden space. now giving him space is a code for let's not pressure him not to run. but that's not encouragement. one other question you'll enjoy in our caucus, our insider poll this week, we asked what could sink donald trump? there were a lot of different answers. there was only one answer that was in the double digits, what do you think it was? >> donald trump. >> nailed it. >> okay. >> that's funny. >> does anyone say -- >> nothing. >> are donald trump and his mouth the same thing, basically? >> kind of.
>> mike allen, thank you very much. great to see you. happy friday. >> very interesting. happy weekend. >> all right. still ahead, it's -- >> last weekend in the summer. >> it is. what summer? >> next weekend. >> did anyone have a summer? next weekend is labor day. >> time flies. >> when you're working. >> it's considered a classic tv series. >> where you going? >> out. >> out? >> i need think, george. i want to be alone. >> look, weezy, if you want to be alone, why don't you always be alone like you always are right here with me. >> but we will show you why you won't want president obama on your television trivia team. okay. keep it right here on "morning joe." you are looking at two airplane fuel gauges. can you spot the difference? no? you can't see that? alright, let's take a look. the one on the right just used 1% less fuel than the one on the left. now, to an airline, a 1% difference could save enough fuel to power hundreds of flights around the world. hey, look at that. pyramids.
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♪ movin' on up to the east side ♪ >> we told you earlier about president obama's visit to new orleans and mark a decade since hurricane katrina. that was an important moment for the presidency. and i thought a great moment for the presidency for president obama. >> but then -- >> one that was a little more soul crushing came whether he met a woman named weezy and then he -- mark halperin, i can't even say it. >> oh, my gosh. >> he did something that no lover of classic television would do. >> a man his age should not be making a mistake like this. it's that simple. >> a man his age should not mix up the jeffersons with sanford &
son. >> weezy? really? like weezy? like the sanford & son? >> no, no. wasn't it sanford & son? >> weezy? >> the jeffersons. ♪ movin' on up >>. ♪ to the east side how you been? >> he's so nice. kunlt make fun of him. >> i'm not making fun of him. he meant elizabeth, i'm coming to join you. >> i think we'll all survive. >> impeach him. >> it was adorable. >> sam stein is not going to put this on the front of his entertainment page. he'll put it on the front page of the news. >> the crime section. >> do you have a crime section? >> we do. >> put this in crime. >> absolutely. >> all right. >> it was also adorable. >> it was adorable. >> did you have a favorite
sanford & son or jeffersons? >> oh, my goodness, they're both so good. jeffersons. >> really? >> i think i was more of a sanford & son guy. incredible t. >> we can play the "sanford & son" one is incredible. >> coming up at the top of the hour, donald trump lets a woman touch his hair at a rally to prove it's real. but that's an old parlor trick. >> oh! >> i have hair spray. it is mine. >> yeah. okay. awkward. that was very awkward. >> you kept going in for more. i mean one time would have been enough. but you kept like -- i want to touch your hair the fifth, sixth, seventh time. >> i'm a journalist. >> yeah. we knew the truth. the other touching -- it was just from a gembarrassing.
for donald, he's on the phone so mika can't grope his hair. >> okay. >> plus, another candidate governor scott walker will also join us and very excited about that. he's got an important foreign policy speech coming up. >> and what hillary clinton said on the campaign trail yesterday that has many demanding she apologize. keep it right here on "morning joe."
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when the same voters think of hillary clinton, the most common word they use is liar. and when they think of jeb bush, first word that comes to mind, for real, is bush. voters don't even care enough about jeb bush to come up with a word to describe him. >> that really is terrible. you have liar. >> it's all bad. >> liar, arrogant, bush. >> that bush one jumped out at me, too. is that best you can do? >> come on. you're not even trying. >> all right. >> brother? dad? something? >> jeb stands for john ellis bush. >> and trump yesterday on the campaign trail, he won't even use his last name. >> richard haass is still with us and mark halperin. let's get to the lead story. donald trump's going to be joining us on the phone in a few
moments. >> okay. >> we're going to ask him about whether or not he's going to -- >> he's very happy. >> did he sign that petition or make a commitment to the party? >> he hasn't quite yet. >> we'll see. >> mark is working two stories. >> come on. >> wake up sources. >> can you confirm one of the two? >> going for both. >> and you're trying to get a triple source on three? >> yeah. >> what he's working on pertains to this. hillary clinton who has been hitting her republican rivals hard on women's health issues says she lost her campaign yesterday took the attacks a step further. clinton was campaigning in ohio when she had this to say. >> extreme views about women? we expect that from some of the terrorist groups. we expect that from people who don't want to live in the modern world. but it's a little hard to take coming from republicans who want to be the president of the united states.
yet, they espouse out of date and out of touch policies. they are dead wrong for 21st century america! we're going forward. we're not going back! >> first of all, it's a disgusting, disgusting thing to sachlt but i laugh because that time i noticed she goes, it is -- and she looks down at her notes and she goes, dead wrong to go -- like i said, the worst part of it is that slanderous remark was actually written down. willie, we already played the game. what if a republican -- >> you already played that game? >> yes, of course, flames would have risen from the earth's core and devours the entire party but hillary is saying it. >> there are two bad things. that's true. if a republican had said -- compared isis to planned parenthood or something like that, the world would have been -- but also she doesn't mean that. you know what i mean? >> you can tell. >> she's playing politician. she's incredibly smart. she knows how to make an attack without using that kind of
language. and, frankly, it feels a little beneath her. there are some candidates you go okay and brush her to the side. i don't know why it feels a little desperate, i have to say. >> yeah, it does feel desperate and feels like she's trying to change the subject. so we're talking about this this morning instead of talking about e-mail story that she can't defend. >> right. >> we'll get back to this. >> hold on. willie -- >> no, we're going to wait for halperin. >> he is getting more information. >> all right. >> let's go to the phone right now and a man feeling very comfortable this morning because he's sitting safely away from mika's arm length that, is the frontrunner for the republican race for president, donald trump. donald, we showed a video earlier where mika was -- i'm sorry. she was in your space. she was grabbing your hair. she did it a dozen times. i think you may have a claim against her. >> well, nobody's ever ripped my hair to that extent. i had barbara walters do it. she just touched it. but mika was getting very
frisky. nobody has ever attacked me that way. my hair was destroyed for the rest of the day. >> donald, did you feel cheapened or objectfied? >> i felt abused. in fact, it's a good thing. in fact, i think i'll bring a lawsuit against mika. >> why not? bring it on. it wouldn't be the first one. >> nowadays you're allowed to sue something for that. our standards are gone way down. >> okay, donald trump. but you didn't bite the groping of the hair. so let me just point out the first question here. i want to ask you about south carolina. and their requirement that you sign some sort of petition or like -- >> basically, a loyalty oath. >> now are they leveraging you or what? you like leverage. >> no, i don't think so. i think what happened was amadzing. we had 1800 people in a room. it was the biggest crowd they ever had in that room. as an example, not to mention this but bush was there. he had 301.
and we had -- i mean the place was absolutely rocking yesterday. we had such a good time. and it was a luncheon. chamber of commerce. and it was amazing in south carolina. it's been amazing everywhere i've gone. the crowds we're getting are incredible. we had an amazing -- we had a fantastic time. and, yeah, south carolina is looking at that and virginia is looking at that and many people have that. many places have that where you have to sign on when you decide by a certain date. the earliest is september 30th. so there is certainly plenty of time. but i will say, and i said it to you as long as i'm treated fairly, that's all i want. that i been treating me really nicely. seven really great over the last three or four weeks. i'm leading in every poll by a lot. maybe that has something to do with it. i used to know them. i used to be on the other side of the equation. i was the fair haired boy for a
long time. >> whether you were giving them money. >> when i was giving money, absolutely. >> let me ask you about jeb bush. it looks like in every poll, it looks like it's coming down to you and jeb bush or in some polls maybe ben carson. and you keep talking about jeb bush as being a low energy candidate. are you doing that to provoke him or do you really think that would prevent him from being an infecti effective president? if jeb bush came to you and asked him for a job, you would give him one? >> i don't want to be nasty and i don't want to say that. but i will tell you if you look at the polls, he's not really second. he's fourth and fifth in a lot of the polls. i've always assumed he was going to be a primary competitor. i guess that's why i'm hitting him harder than others. i like him.
he's a nice person. he is a low energy person. there's no question about it. and, you know, i think we need much more than a low energy person right now to put this kun ti back in shape. we need tremendous energy and tremendous smarts and tremendous cunning and all of the things that other countries have. you look at what the mexican leaders are doing to us. you look at what china's leaders are doing to us. and japan's leaders. he's brutal what he's doing to us. he's really -- japan really stepped up their game, by the way, in case anyone isn't noticing. but, you know, we need a person with tremendous drive and tremendous smarts. >> donald, it's willie. good morning. good to talk to you. i have never been a hair truther. i've known your hair as real from the beginning. >> good. thank you, willie. >> let's talk about a serious story that happened this week that horrified all of us that shooting in virginia that took the lives of a reporter and a camera man down in roanoke. you said this was not a gun problem in this incident. it was a mental health problem.
>> right. >> do you think there are any gun restrictions, further gun restrictions than we have now that would make sense in this country to help stem the tide of gun violence which is much, much more than any country in the face of the snernlg. >> earth? >> no, i don't think you need more gun restrictions. chicago has the single toughest gun laws in the united states and it's a disaster. they're having in certain areas of chicago. chicago sort of a tale two of cities. but in certain areas of chicago, there's tremendous gun violence. more than just about anyplace. you look at baltimore, they have very strong gun laws. you look at these places that are going wild with killings all over and they have very, very powerful gun laws, laws that you would say, i mean, you should not have any killings whatsoever. the fact is it's not the laws. you have a tremendous problem with crime. you have a tremendous problem with mental health. and in this case it was pure mental health. and it's amazing that all of these guys that do these things,
and we certainly see plenty of them, it's incredible to me that somebody doesn't come out. they really can see he was a sick guy two, three, four years ago. every place you worked he had problems. and very severe problems. and yet nobody come out and reports him. >> but donald, if they did report him, it seems to me that should go into a background check area and shouldn't we expand background checks? you always talk about how government doesn't work. i do, too. one of the areas it doesn't work is on the background checks. don't we need to fix the background checks and expand it? if a guy is working for you and he threatens everybody in your office and says i'm going to come back and get you and on the last day he leaves the office everybody has to cower in the corner, they have to call 911, that guy shouldn't have a gun. >> right. >> but he'll get a gun if we don't have a background check. >> a couple of time it did work. you know, a couple were on the list and they were able to get guns. a mistake was made actually by
the government. >> right. that's what i'll saying. shouldn't we fix -- work to fix the him? >> yeah, fix the system. >> work to close the gun show loophole where terrorists can go in and buy guns without background checks. doesn't all that make good g. comm good common sense? >> we have strong laws on the books. again, you look at places like chicago. look at new york city. in new york city, we have among the toughest gun laws in the country. we have gun violence. it's a real problem. we have the laws. you have to make the laws work. the government is not making the laws work. beyond that, you do have a huge mental health problem. there's no question about it. >> all right. mark halper snin. >> -- mark halperin? >> i want to go back to the establishment. you're freaking a lot of people out. they're worried that you might be the nominee or a disruptive force. two people talking right about you and negative way, george
will and charles krouthimer. can you be republican nominee without winning them over? >> a lot of the pundits have come a long way. in fact, yesterday in the speech, i was very proud, the cnn reporter said it was the greatest political speech he ever heard. >> what reporter was that? >> i said that's a nice -- >> who said that? >> i don't know her name. she was wearing a beautiful red dress. she looked good to me. anybody that says this looks good to me. so -- >> even if richard haass is saying that and wearing a red dress, he would look but snl. >> he would look good to me, no question about it. you know what happened, willie, a lot of the pundits that were saying he's just kidding, he's just playing games. it's just for his brand. he's just going to have a little fun. a lot of those people have come a long way. so rather than attacking people, including george will and even he's coming a little bit, you know, people are starting to see what is happening.
i'll tell what you, there say movement out there. i was in alabama and joe knows because his brother was there, we had 31,000 people in that stadium. it looked like it was going to be pouring. and when he 31,000 people in that stadium. and it was an unbelievable evening. and there is -- you know, i call it a movement. i think it's a very, very strong movement. i mean i won't mention names. i don't want to put them on the spot. but i've had -- i could say there is someone -- i've fall non love with him, i think he's one of the greats. joe, nobody was hitting me harder than gene. but there is something happening out there that people -- some people say they've never seen happen before. >> there is something interesting as i watch. i don't watch a lot of tv after i get off a three hour show in the morning. the one thing i do notice is even people on the left are talking about it's hard to nail donald down ideologically.
and that he doesn't read republican talking points. and he goes to all sides. i think that's onest things that are new. richard? richard haass has a question for you, not if a beautiful red dress. >> he looks good though. >> blue suit. i was surprised by something you said a few minutes ago. you were very critical of prime minister abe of japan. this is a -- >>, no not critical. i think he's great for japan. i wasn't critical. i think he's doing a great job for japan. >> but why isn't it also good for the united states? this is an ally. if japan economically recovers they can contribute a lot more militarily. they can become much more of a partner of the united states. they can help us around the world. why is somehow his doing good for japan in any way not good for the united states? this is the third largest economy in the world and one of our closest allies. shouldn't we celebrate that? >> because they're killing us economically, richard. because their selling millions of cars to us that we're not making here.
because if you look at the balance of trade and if you look at the deficit that's we have with that country, they're killing us economically. i was in los angeles two weeks ago. i saw ships, the biggest ships i've ever seen with cars, thousands of cars pouring off those ships coming in tax free which is fine but the problem is we send practically nothing to them. we're not doing business with them. it's a one-way street. i love japan. i think abe is a great leader. i'm not speaking critically. i'm just saying they are much smarter than our leaders. our leaders don't know what they're doing. you have to see what i saw two weeks ago. i've known this anyway. the balance is so off. we have to change that balance. we sent them beef and a lot of times they don't take our beef. and i will tell you, it's a tiny fraction of what the cars are. so we have to even it up. same thing with china. china is like taking candy from a baby what they're doing to us. they're destroying us. they're taking our jobs. they're taking our base. we send them stuff and they tax
us. nobody knows they tax us. but they tax us. and it's very hard for people to send things into china or into japan. when was the last time you saw a chevrolet in the middle of tokyo? how many chevrolets are in tokyo right now? two? >> a lot of the japanese cars, first of all, are produced here now as you know. it's true, trade imbalance is about 2:1. >> not 2:1. it's more than 2:1. it's massive. >> it's not. but why would we want tomorrow late that? for the last two decades they've had no growth. we've grown sensationally. we created 25 million new jobs over the last couple decades. they've been flat. japan is not a threat to us. >> richard, they've had -- richard, they've had no growth because other countries aren't as stupid as us and other countries aren't allowing them to get away with, like they get away with us. but they made a fortune with us. now they do build some plants here. but a majority is still over there. and it's massive. you know, china would note let
you g -- would not let you get away with. that how many plants do we have in china build cars? how many blants do we have in japan? and how many cars do we sell to japan? i want to tell you, if you look up that number, it's almost nothing. >> donald, let me ask you about a follow up on some comments you made earlier this week. n. what we thought was a fascinating interview with mark halperin and john heilemann. it involves something that i've been trying to get republican candidates for president to say for some time and that is that there is something wrong with hedge funneleders paying 14% while the secretaries are paying 25%. and small businesses and they carry the load. i get the idea that warren buffett said a couple years ago, a minimum tax. every american should pay a minimum tax of 25% 30%. the last presidential campaign,
i think you had mitt romney and barack obama paying taxes, the tax rate was in the teens. it is fine. i'm not saying we shouldn't be aggressive as possible. there are people running for president to pay tax. while there are secretaries and they pay 28, 38, 39%? >> i know the hedge fund guys. i probably know all of them one way or another. i'm big supporters of hillary clinton and jeb bush. they have given jeb bush millions because they're going to keep it going the same way. and they've given hillary clinton, you know, with all the talk about hillary about wall street and it's a joke she can get away with it. and her last statement on terrorists was disgusting statement by the way. i heard you talking about that before. but the concept of hedge funds, now these are guys, they don't really build anything.
they shuffle paper. they're back and forth. they live beautifully. when you say 14%, joe, i don't know who you're talking about. i don't know any that pay 14%. there are things that hedge funds do, hedge fund guy dozen. they make a tremendous amount of money. and they don't pay. and what i want to do is i want o simplify the tax cut. i'm going to be coming out over the next month with a -- i think a really -- look, nobody knows the tax code better than i do. i'm the king of the tax cut. we have to take the sucm of the deductio deductions. i want to get rid of h & r block. i want to put them out of business. people that make $50,000 a year have to go to h & r block to get their tax returns done and it's so kblikted and they're smart people. we're going to simplify the tax code, take await deductions. and hedge fund guys have to pay
up. i'm going to lower taxes. i have friends that laugh about how little they pay. and it's not fair to the middle class. and the middle income people and the middle class, we're destroying that. you know, that's what built this country. and we are destroying the middle class in this country. so i will have a plan to hedge fund guys won't be happy. but pretty much everybody else is going to love it. >> whether are you coming out with that plan? >> over the next four weeks. >> all right. look forward to seeing that. donald trump, thank you. >> thank you, donald. >> i'll talk you to soon. >> coming up on -- >> willie -- >> new title. >> king of the tax code. >> king of the tax code. secondly, he talked about a possible lawsuit. >> he went for 500 million against un i vision. i can only imagine what he's going to take out of your pocket. >> joking. i did go in a little -- i am surprised by that video. >> you went in a little high.
that's gutty. there is another fly by. she just keeps going. i was check. >> what checking for? >> from 9:00 to 11:00, jose is running that in a loop on the rundown. >> just an interesting interview. >> instead of the hurricane bug. yeah. we'll have that bug down there. >> we're not going to do that. >> yeah. >> boy that, was a long time ago. that was five years ago. >> we've been doing this show for a long time. >> yeah. >> the stak mistakes have been med. >> you need to get ed rendell on here to defend you. >> mika didn't really touch his hair. >> something happened in the last 24 hours.
>> ed got yelled at. we love ed. ed made a horrible mistake, mark halperin, he told the truth about hillary clinton in the campaign. and then when i said, hey, shouldn't they have been doing this -- which of course he knows the answer is yes. tell the truth. he actually did a full turn around. i mean even more intense. >> i'm not saying he woke up with a horse head in bed with him. >> close. >> oh, my god. "the new york times" posted that story on the website. it got ugly fast. >> he was contacted. it was not be the first time that ed rendell said something a little out of context and what we like to call clinton associates. i'm not saying i know that happened. >> people contact people like that. >> yeah. he heard from them. >> you will channel jennifer palmieri on "morning joe." >> and it was like michael when
he sat there talking to his brother-in-law telling him to just, you know, he's going to take care of him. >> all right. coming up on "morning joe" -- >> can you save me once for old time sake? can you put in a good word? >> no. >> it's over, man. >> that's it. wow. >> governor scott walker will join us. >> good. >> next, chuck todd and al sharpton. what is that? it's you! it's me? alright emma, i know it's not your favorite but it's time for your medicine, okay? you ready? one, two, three. [ both ] ♪ emma, emma bo-bemma ♪ banana-fana-fo-femma ♪ fee-fi-fo-femma ♪ em-ma very good sweety, how do you feel? good. yeah? you did a really good job, okay? [ female announcer ] to nurses everywhere, thank you, from johnson & johnson.
the project of rebuilding here wasn't just to restore the city as it had been. it was to build a city as it should be. a city where everyone, no matter what they look like, how much money they got, where they come from, where they're born, has a chance to make it. >> that, of course, is president obama yesterday talking about katrina and new orleans. let's bring in right now the host of msnbc, al sharp ton and chuck todd. i want to get to the good news. mika andvery excited about
sunday morning. mika is talking about what you could do sunday morning would be extraordinary and you were just telling us -- >> we're going to do something unusual sunday morning. it's going to be not your usual sunday morning show. and with all of the elitists don't understand, oh, who's up that early sunday morning? the prime voter is up getting ready for church on sunday morning or going to golf. the people that go to the proper brunches, that eat grits and bacon on sunday morning, that's who's going to be my audience and we're programming. and if you're a cabinet member or a serious guy running in a primary, you're going to have to come on my show to talk to the voter who is the prime voter. i think people -- the reason people don't understand you and i, joe, is we live on the ground where real people are. i lead the marches, still do. they would rather talk about people like us than have people
like us talk for ourselves. >> i thought that was brilliant. >> she wants me to bring the children's choir in. >> but 8:00 is, though, that is the -- >> that's when mega clutches hu they're reading about us. we are us. >> and you also get an opportunity to do what we do every morning and that is we start the conversation for the day. we influence the news. we influence the news makers. they tell us that at the white house and on capitol hill. you goat do that now. you get to influence the sunday morning shows. and you're exactly right. if i want to reach your audience, i got to be there at 8:00 on sunday morning. >> many of the washington influences started e-mailing me saying i've got to watch this. i told them my goal in life, i
have many goals. my goal in life is by the time my friend chuck todd comes on he said sharpton had him say what? >> and here we have it. it's a perfect tee up for chuck todd. >> there you go. >> it's very exciting. congratulations. >> absolutely. >> chuck, you have a strong lead in now. you have a strong number three hitter for your cleanup fourth. >> no, no. look, i think it's important to see different voices on sunday morning as well. so i think it's great. reverend, welcome. >> thank you. >> we're all sitting here scratching our heads. a lot of people disturbed that she was comparing republicans that are running for president of the united states to radical terrorists. what is behind that do you think, chuck? >> i think what you're going to see a lot more from the clinton campaign is more gender identity politics to be honest. i think that this is -- i think
you're going to see more of. this right now it's on women's health. this is her great strength in the democratic primary. this is as sort of the attacks come on, i think this is going to be the way one of the ways that they sort of gird themselves if a defense from what's coming. that let rrhetoric was pretty h. i think it was designed to be partisan not rhetoric. >> you say this is her great strength and you say the rhetoric was hot. i couldn't really -- joe had a very, very clear reaction. i just didn't feel like this seemed like her. >> just like i had a very clear reaction whether mike huckabee talked about marching people off to the ovens. >> look, i hear you. i'm just telling you i think i'm expecting more of this. i think you're going to see more gender, more identity politics coming from her. i think it is the foundation she
has for a primary campaign. look, i've heard from a lot of women supporters of hillary clinton who are ready to get into a bunker with her, who feel as if the attacks on e-mails and all this that she's taking more incoming for various reasons and some women believe she's taking the incoming because of gender. i think other people don't -- will disagree with that. that she's taking incoming because she was secretary of state. has nothing to do with letther gender. i think you'll see more of this as the fall goes on. >> chuck, it's willie. has hillary's campaign changed the view on how serious it e-mail story is now? we had ed rendell in the newspaper yesterday saying it was horrible, terrible, poorly handled and then changed his stance. >> after the horse head was found in his bed. >> have they changed their view about how serious this is and maybe not just a media story? or republican attack talking point? >> well, i think they have at
least changed their public stance. i think they still believe this is a media-driven story. and a republican party driven story. i don't -- but i think they know they have to handle it better publicly. i think they are not tone deaf. they hear the criticism. i think they still believe it's manufactured. i don't think they've changed their mind as to whether she has don't right thing or not. i think they realize they have to publicly change their tune here a little bit. >> and you laughed, chuck. you obviously saw ed come on the show, right? >> yes, i did. >> i love him. >> what happened? >> here's the thing. you actually can look at this and say, you know, the clintons don't mess around. and they don't like losing an ally. ed rendell has been a long ally. he was like the last guy in the bunker during the clinton-obama primary hanging with the clintons. he was not jumping on the obama
campaign. >> shouldn't he tell the truth instead of trying to clobber people who say the truth. why don't you listen to the truth and maybe adjust. >> i think that you have to always energize your base. think what hillary clinton is doing is there's not been enough real reaction from women. where do women leaders coming out attacking these attacks? saying they're media driven. where are the women activists? i think she's got to energize her base which are female voters and use that to start trying to back some of this off. any good politician has to keep their base fired up. she's not done that. i think she may have made some people say she overdid it with this statement. that's debatable. i think that's where she's going. i have to get my base in order. >> all right. al sharpton. thank you so much. very excited sunday morning. >> and we'll watch. chuck todd, we'll be watching
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congress should reject a bad deal. we need a better deal. with us now from charleston, south carolina, scott walker. scott, welcome to the show. what you are doing in south carolina? >> good morning. yeah, going to be he is citadel midday giving a speech. our first of a number of speeches on policy in this case foreign policy. talking about what we're going to do to take on radical islamic terrorism and all of the forms in all the places around the world. city del it is city del iit i t place to do it. >> can you give us a quick bullet points on what you're saying and then we'll pass it over to richard haass and talk more about it? >> the key is tying it all
together. it's not just isis and al qaeda. it's about pushing back on iran. iran itself a shiite form of radical islamic terrorism. under this president we will a containm contain containment problem. we need to step up against iran and irrad indicate ice yik. >> what will do you differently? >> certainly when it come to iran, i said repeatedly i would terminate the deal on day one. i think that's a difference between me and not just the president and hillary clinton, it's a difference even between mane the other republicans in this race. governor bush a month ago when i first raised this said they would wait. they would wait for a cabinet and a secretary of state in particular was in. i think if you're going to be president, you need to be president on day one. and if it's a bad deal, you need to terminate that deal need immediately. we talked about lifting political restrictions in iraq now and our military personnel
that are already there so they can do what they're trained to do to help the kurd and sunni tribal allies there reclaim the territory taken by isis. >> donald trump says he wouldn't do it. it's a contract you can't just tear up contracts. do you disagree? >> i do. this is one of those where it's not -- if this was a treaty bound by the united states, it would go before the united states senate. this is an executive action done by this president. it's one where there's overwhelming opposition across the country, increasingly there is opposition in the congress not only for republicans but obviously from some prominent democrats. it is a bad deal. think about it. i can still remember as a kid tying yellow ribbons around the tree in front of our house, tying the yellow rib donees during the 444 day that's iran held 52 americans hostage. iran hasn't changed much since then. this is not a country we should be doing business with. and we need to be aggressive. it's why i think our inability to be aggressive in the middle east, in fact, decisions around the world and it makes us more
likely not less likely to get in a conflict. we fleed to be strong again so that we don't end up in con fwlikt around the world. i believe reagan's peace through strength, we need to be strong again. >> richard haass? >> governor, i saw recently your comments about china. the reason i want to raise it is north korea. you're worried iran becoming a potential nuclear weapons state. you said you wouldn't go ahead with the planned visit of the president to the united states. how it is will -- if you're president, they could have nuclear weapons that could reach california during your presidency. how it is would you would try continue to influence korea without a close relationship with china? >> do you have to have one. i'm not talking about walking away from that or trade. trade with china is important to the country as a whole. it's important to my state and the state i was in yesterday in iowa out. there i just think when it comes to an official state visit,
that's one of the highest prizes we can give to countries that we work with that are allies and partners. and in a time where we know this year there have been cyber attacks against our very own government. ch not only put the government at risk, it's put the individual information and millions of americans at risk. it affects our national security. i think we need to not just look the other way, we need to stand up and do something about it. to me this is one of the clearest ways you send a message out there. but on north carolina, you're right to be concerned about north korea. this is why i don't just go after my own party. it was a bad deal back under president bush. they made a similar attempt to reach a reasonable decision when it comes to nuclear weapons. we see that it didn't work in north korea. we see the problems there. and we need to work together with our allies as well as other countries like china to make sure that doesn't happen. >> mark? >> how you would assess the current state of relations between the united states and pakistan? >> well, i think anywhere in the world we need to be better.
we obviously have challenges all throughout the world. we even have challenges with relationship with israel which is obviously one of our greatest allies out there. but we have on going challenges in pakistan and afghanistan around the world. again, it's one of those where strength gets strength. confidence begets confidence. >> specifically with pakistan, how you would assess the current strengths and weaknesses, positives and negatives in the u.s.-pakistani relationship? >> well, i think you look both in terms of pakistan and afghanistan. you look at -- we talk all the time about isis and al qaeda. we still have on going concerns about the taliban and their ability to regain strength. that has a relationship between both pakistan and afghanistan. we need to make sure that any form, any form of radical islamic terrorism that is targeted at us or allies is one that we stand firm on. and those are still lingering problems even in that part of the world. >> governor walker, it's willie geist. good morning. good to have you with us.
let me ask you a question we put to donald trump a little while. we were talking about the shooting in virginia all week this week. you're a strong supporter of gun rights, a-plus rating from the nra. what do you think can be done to reduce the number of gun deaths in this country you? look at the gunman in this incident, bought a gun legally, passed a background check. there are not a lot of laws that would have stopped that. what can we do about gun death in this country? >> unfortunately, one of the biggest trends we see is people who slipped through the cracks whether it comes to comprehensive mental health coverage and support. it's why a couple years ago as governor we saw some of the similar tragedies in wisconsin and we upped the game what it came to providing mental health services in all of our counties across the state of wisconsin. the time i believe it was the most money, the most resources any governor put into mental health services in about a quarter century because we saw too many people slipping through the cracks. now those services go far beyond just obviously the extremes as we see in these cases.
but i think it is one where all too often the common thread is people slip through the cracks. in america, we have to make sure people don't slip through the cracks. part of it is breaking the stigma against people getting help when it comes to mental health issues. >> what about what it's not mental health though. let's take milwaukee in your state when there are disproportionate numbers of shooting and death in inner city areas. what do you do about those gun deaths? >> i think those things it's a much more comprehensive strategy. we tried to work with the city of milwaukee as i believe we need to do across america to address some of the core issues. certainly about enforcing the law so people are safe in many of our urban enableds across america and doing things to strengthen the family, to make sure we change federal policies in particular that encourage families to remain intact and discourage welfare policies that make it harder for fathers to play a significant role in the lives of their children. do things that make sure that every child has access to great
education. it's why not only reformed our public schools, we expanded our chaert schools and expanded options for choice schools because i believe you give every child access to great education, that's going to help improve their ability to get a job and live a life free of government dependence. you do those sorts of things anywhere across america it's going to help. >> sam stein? >> governor, i want to go back to iran for a second. let's say a year and four months from now you're assuming the office of the presidency. and iran against your expectations hasn't done anything to violate the deal. in fact, we have more openness and transparency into what the nuclear ambitions are. if that's the case, you would still on day one rip up the negotiation? >> i still think it's a bad deal because i believe it's not just about nuclear. the more immediate threat right now and there's an on going concern just as we've seen in north korea where some of the same commitments and the same pledges were used nearly a decade ago and here we don't have a stable north korea. >> sure. >> but there is also the short
mentor applications. that is what we see with the money being used as you lift the sanctions, money is going into hamas and hezbollah. that's a direct threat to israel. that's an ally of the united a states. remember iran is the leading country when it comes to state-sponsored terrorism. >> presented with evidence that the deal is actually working, you would still rip it up? i'm confused about that. >> well, i think you're talking about a hypothetical that's highly unlikely as it is in north korea. i think right now, to me, i would have a deal. i'm not against a deal. i have said for some time, a good deal would be one where we have full dismantling of the illicitt nuclear structure they have in the country right now, in iran. we don't have that completely under this deal. i would have full and absolute disclosure. that means immediate disclosure, not the things in the supposed deal, and a deal with the disrupting behaviors in the region. they're directly linked to hamas
and hezbollah which are direct threats to the state of israel. they're connected to assad and syria, to the rebels in yemen. those are all problem spots in the region that have an impact on the united states as well. i would have that sort of a deal, just on our terms, not on iran's terms. >> governor scott walker, thank you for being on the show. gr good luck today at the sit dell, a remarkable place. >> still ahead, hillary clinton goes after republicans with very harsh controversial language. will she apologize? should she? that's ahead. two streetlights. the only difference: that little blue thingy. you see it? that's a sensor. using ge software, the light can react to its environment- getting brighter only when it's needed. in a night, it saves a little energy. but, in a year it saves a lot. and the other street? it's been burning energy all night. for frank. frank's a cat. now, two things that are exactly the same,
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welcome back to "morning joe." it's 8:00 on the east coast. fife:00 a.m. on the west coast. we have mark halpern, sam stein, turtle, and richard haass back with us. donald trump was back on the stump in south carolina yesterday where he railed against his coverage in the "new york times." >> i wake up this morning and "new york times," and i love the "new york times." it's great. but i see a story on the front page. i'm always on the front page of the "new york times" now. we're going to set a record for that, too, like almost every day. so you mind if i put on my glasses? does anybody mind? the print gets smaller and smaller and smaller as they lose more and more money. it's tough. it's true. trump gets earful in spanish as latino outlets air disdain. i'm just saying, what does that
mean? and they start off -- now think of this, the front page. so they say here, this is a different person. the front page. ricardo sanchez, his spanish drive time radio show in los angeles, has taken to calling donald j. trump el hombre de el hombre del pelequin. in other words, the man of the tu toupee. this is on the front page. i don't wear a toupee. this is my hair. i swear. come here, come here. come here. i'm going to -- we're going to settle this. you know, barbara walters did it. barbara walters named me the most whatever it is of the year. just come on up here. you have to do an inspection. this is getting crazy. this is crazy. real quick. we dont want to mess it up too
much because i do use hair spray. come, come. is it mine? look. >> it is. >> it is. say it, please. >> yes, i believe it is. >> thank you. and have i ever met you before? no. >> oh, my god. that's an old schtick, trump. he did that here. and it's real. but whatever. trump even had more to say about the paper and the media coverage of him. >> gets worse. don't worry. trump, who has dismissed some mexican immigrants -- listen to this -- as rapists and criminals or simply put, as hitler. do you believe -- now the hitler i never heard until this morning when i woke up. i'm not a fan of hitler. so now they just added the rapist, they just added hitler into it.
so then, which is all false, by the way, and they know it. so the news media -- here, you can have it. anybody want it? all those live cameras back there, they're going to test me. you know, i can't even exaggerate anymore. it's true. they're testing me all the time. he said this, and it wasn't quite that way. he said the art of the deal is the greatest selling business book of all time. i think it was. now i say, one of them. that way i can't get in trouble. i think it was. >> let's bring in donald trump on the phone. >> let me ask you about jeb bush. it looks right now in every poll, it looks like it's coming down to you and jeb bush or in some polls maybe ben carson. and you keep talking about jeb bush as being a low-energy candidate. are you doing that just to provoke him, or do you really think the fat that you say he's a low-energy would prevent him from being an effective president? let me just ask you, gut check
here. if jeb bush came to you and he wasn't the politician and asked you for a job, would you guv him one? >> well, i dont want to be nasty, and i don't want to say that, but i well tell you that if you look at the polls, he's not really second anymore. he's fourth and fifth in a lot of the polls. i always assumed he was going to be a primary competitor. i guess that's why i'm hitting him harder than others. i like hip. he's a nice person. he's a low-energy person, no question about it. i think we need much more than a low-energy person right now to put this country back in shape. we need tremendous energy and tremendous smarts and tremendous cunning. and all of the things that other countries have. you look at what the mexican leaders are doing to us, you look at what china's leaders are doing to us and japan's leaders. abi, he's brutal what he's doing to us. japan has really stepped up their game, by the way, in case anyone isn't noticing.
we need a person with tremendous drive and tremendous smarts. >> mr. trump, i want to go back to this issue of you and the establishment. you're freaking a lot of people out. they're worried now you might be the nominee or be what they consider a disruptive force. two people in particular constantly talking about you in a negative way, george will, charles krauthammer. i wonder if you think you can become the republican nominee without winning them over or you don't care about winning them over? >> a plot of pundits have come long way. yesterday at the speech, i was proud because the cnn reporter said it was the single greatest speech she had heard. >> which reporter? >> i said that's a nice statement. >> who was that? >> i don't know her name, but she was wearing a beautiful red dress. she looked good to me. anybody who says nat looks good to me. >> even if richard haass -- if richard haass is wearing a red dress and says that would he look good? >> he would look beautiful to me, no question.
what's happened, willie, is a lot of the pundits that we're saying he's just kidding, just playing games. just for his brand, he's just going to have fun. a lot of those people have come a long way. rather than attacking people including krauthammer and george will and even krauthammer is coming a little bit, people are starting to see what's happening. there's a movement out there. i was in alabama, and joe knows because his brother was there, we had 31,000 people in that stadium, and it look like it was going to be pouring. we had 31,000 people in that stadium. it was an unbelievable evening. and there is -- you know, i call it a movement. i think it's a very, very strong movement. and a lot of people are seeing it. and i have had people -- i won't mention names because i don't want to put them on the spot, but i had -- well, i could say gene on your show, who i have fallen in love with as an example. >> yes, he loves you, too. >> he's one of the greats. >> donald trump, thank you. now to hillary clinton and
stark comments she made on the campaign trail. >> wow. >> extreme views about women. we expect that from some of the terrorist groups. we expect that from people who don't want to live in the modern world. but it's a little hard to take coming from republicans who want to be the president of the united states. yet they espouse out of date and out of touch policies. they are dead wrong for 21st century america. we're going forward. we're not going back. >> okay, who wants to start? mark halpern, what's going on here? i -- i think that might have been a bridge too far. i understand the point here. but there's something else going on? >> an important week in the hillary clinton campaign. they're trying to put the e-mail controversy behind them as much as possible. >> look at the bird, look at the bird. >> a little bit of that, for sure. the dnc meeting is taking place
right now in minnesota. joe biden is thinking about whether to get in the race. hillary clinton's poll numbers are not doing well. they're try to do a variety of thing to move on. she did the thing yesterday where she tried today change her tone and be more contrite and take more responsibility. two, she's escalating her rhetoric against the republicans to show democrats he's going to fight hard to rally the base, and they're doing a number of things to try to show -- to try to project force and competence that she is the inevitable democratic candidate. >> there's one other thing you're missing. we're about to enter a government funding phase that might very well shut down over the funding of planned parenthood. i think she's trying to get the ducks in a row. >> these issues are obviously going to be part of the debate. i don't think it was out of left field, but the front page of the "new york times" today, and that was after the more contrite tone that she took about the e-mail controversy, it's not any better. in fact, it shows a growing
number of supporters, donors, members of the party who are just wondering what's going on in terms of her handling of the e-mail issue. and it really is at this point -- it seemed -- i want to be careful with my words, but it seemed out of nowhere, that attack. maybe legitimate, but the parallel to terrorism seemed to kind of not -- >> yeah, the wording -- >> i'm being very -- i'm hedging here because i don't want to accuse her of something, but it doesn't seem -- >> i think the analogy was not right, obviously over the top. i'm not sure if it was meant to distract. this is a big issue happening on the campaign trail. >> i guess, that's my point. richard haass. >> two things, one, to focus on this issue is obviously good for her and the democrats in the long run because there will be lots of issues from planned parenthood to aborg and so forth where getting women out to vote
in large numbers and percentages is a possibility. i have a rule about politics. there's probably three things i would never do. you don't compare things to hitler. you don't compare diplomacy to appeasement, and you don't compare people to terrorists. >> can i talk? >> yeah. >> eight minutes. i have been sitting here for ate minutes and you have been cutting me off. >> all right, the rnc was quick to respond to the comments but i'll let you do it first. >> it was disgusting. hillary clinton saying -- >> i was trying to be careful. >> no, just let's tell the truth. she wanted us to talk about this. she wanted to throw a bright shiny object out there. >> look at the bird, what i said when you were sitting right here. >> so they don't talk about the e-mail scandal. and so she has to be so hyperbolic and insulting, and quitegutter politics at its worst to compare people to radical terrorists that cut off people's head and
blow up grandmoms. no, it's not all right. and we have seen by reporting what these terrorists do to young girls. the sexual slavery is absolutely appalling, and what hillary clinton did is compare somebody who is pro-life, which is close to 50% of americans, to radical terrorists. this is like barack obama. i mean, is this the radicalism. we have been talking ability the craziness of the republican party. but is this the sick radicalism that is now infecting the democratic party, that if you're barack obama, you compare chuck schumer to people shouting death to america in iran? if you're hillary clinton, you compare pro-life democrats and republicans to isis? what happened here yesterday? this is so over the top. >> if a republican did this, the world would come to a halt. >> the world would come to a
halt. >> it should be condemned in strong terms. i'm hoping and suspecting she'll take it back. >> why would she take it back? >> think she might. >> did you see what she was doing? the most disgusting part of it was she was reading notes. this was planned. and the campaign says she has no plans to apologize, and now she's accusing republicans of twisting her words. this is a strategy of her to be -- to engage in gutter politics to distract from the fact that the fbi is investigating her. because she's been called a liar by the american people. so she's just going to try to change the subject. and it's -- democrats that are concerned about what's going on should just be more concerned this morning. >> i just want to take a look at this. it's very strong and forceful. i'm not sure how she takes it back. play it. >> she's proud of herself. >> extreeme views about women, e
expect that from some of the terrorist groups. we expect that from people who don't want to live in the modern world. but it's a little hard to take coming from republicans who want to be the president of the united states. yet, they espouse out of date and out of touch policies. they are dead wrong for 21st century america. we're going forward. we're not going back. >> yeah, there were notes. that's written. >> mark. >> maybe she's looking ahead. >> what would happen if scott walker, who is going to be on today, compared barack obama to islamic terrorists. >> policies. >> because he was pro-choice, and scott walker said he wants to slaughter innocents just like isis, because he's pro-abortion? i'm just wondering. >> the world would come to a
halt. there would be editorials condemning him and demanding he apologize. >> sam? >> mike huckabee said that barack obama was leading people to the oven. there was widespread condemnation ability that. i think we know what would happen. the one part i quibble. i said while you were sitting here, i said i disagree with the analogy. but i disagree with the idea that this is a distraction. >> a strategy. >> i do think that there is a -- i do think there is a genuine substantive concern on the campaign trail about women's health issues. partially tied to the fact that planned parenthood funding is going to be targeted. i don't think this is some sort of side show. i think this is something the campaign wanted to focus on and will focus on for the rest of the campaign. >> i said after the first debate. mark and i were talking about this. if you're keeping score at home, marco rubio and scott walker are against abortion exceptions, life, incest, rape.
that's one thing. comparing them to isis is quite another. but there's no doubt in my mind, maybe it's just a politician in me, that they're like, let's distract. look what we're doing. we're talking about this offensive comment that she made. >> i'm not sure that's a good strategy. >> you know, if she had just talked about it in a respectful, decent, humane way, we wouldn't be talking about it today. we would be talking about her e-mail e-mails. >> her e-mails are one of her problems currently. bernie sanders is a problem. her poll numbers and what people think of her truthfulness. >> 60% of all registers voters say clinton is not honest and trustworthy. >> the fact she's part of the establishment is a problem. and what she's trying to do now is move at 1,000 miles per hour to move so fast that she creates a lot of confusion and distraction. >> the rule is if you want to be right with words, it's nobody ever stops you when you're going
90 miles per hour. that's what she's doing. >> that rhetoric and the frequent attacks obrepublicans, using rhetoric like that, because this is probably the most over the line she's been, but she said other things like this, is to try to be going 90 miles per hour, and you know, one thing bill clinton says is it's better to be strong and wrong than right and weak. she is trying to look strong. >> richard. >> all of the above and also there's one other thing, which is that she wants to prove to democrats that she's the right person to be their nominee. and by doing this kind of stuff, it's a way to some extent make people rethink their rethinking of vice president biden. this is obviously, always hard to talk about motives, but i think sam's point and mine, this is a long-term election. >> how does it play in the general election, do you think, if we have barack obama comparing chuck schumer to iranian terrorists and you have hillary clinton comparing 50% of
america who are pro-life to islamic terrorists? >> look. >> but there's another issue in the general election, which is the exceptions for mother's life, rape, incest. >> my question is, we're just talking about -- no, we have spent the past several months. we have spent the past several months talking about donald trump's tone, and donald trump's over the line, and donald trump offended megyn kelly, and donald trump offended john mccain because he told a joke. he tells a joke, and donald trump offended every hispanic because he didn't let jorge ramos give speeches. here we have hillary clinton comparing 50% of americans to islamic terrorists. i will ask the question again. >> okay, i'm ready. >> how will that play in the general election? >> gnaw well. it's all not playing well. i don't get it. i don't think this should be that hard for her. and this latest story is just -- i'm perplexed by it.
because she has been around. she knows politics. her husband knows politics. this is one of these things you just don't do. and you don't prepare and write it and deliver it. still ahead on "morning joe," it's been a volatile week on wall street. we're going toask michelle caruso-cabrera how the week might end. >> plus, president obama returns to new orleans to mark ten years since the devastation of hurricane katrina. first, bill karins with a check of the forecast. >> all eyes on air kaye. the island of dominica was hit hard. erika is only a weak tropical storm, but it produced about 12 inches of rain in a short period of time. many fatalities on the island. for fact, at least four or 5. as far as the storm, in between puerto rico and the dominican republic. puerto rico is doing okay so far. the storm is going to go into the dominican republic during the day today. there's tall mountains today,
even a 50% chance this stort will dissipate during the day today. and then the question is, will it be able to regenerate itself, will it be far enough away from cuba over the warm waters near the bahamas and the turks and caicos to get stronger? the hurricane center things a little stronger but not something that's going to cause a lot of damage and be a huge concern for south florida. as long as it takes a path over land to florida, that won't be an issue. if it's to the right side or left side of the forecast, as we geinto monday and tuesday, it could be a stronger storm. we'll be prepared for a hurricane in florida just in case. right now, things are looking more favorable for just a rain event and not a big wind event for florida. again, stay tuned over the weekend. leaving you with a shot of new york city. much of the country looking at a beautiful friday and a nice, quiet, warm weekend. more "morning joe" when we get back. that's a sensor. using ge software, the light can react to its environment- getting brighter only when it's needed. in a night, it saves a little energy.
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all right. time to take a look at the morning papers. let's start with the "new york times" picayune. two years since hurricane katrina left nearly 200 people dead. speaking at a community center that was once 17 feet under water, he coshed more work remains as part of the recovery but the president also praised new orleans for its resilience after such a poor response by all levels of government. >> and this was something that was supposed to never happen here. maybe someplace else, but not here, not in america. and we came to realize that what started out as a natural disaster became a manmade disaster. a failure of government to look out for its own citizens. because of you, the people of new orleans, working together, this city is moving in the right
direction. and i have never been more confident that together we will get to where we need to go. you inspire me. >> from the "new york times," a grisly discovery on an austrian highway. highlighted the human toll the crisis within europe's own borders. 71 decomposing bodies thought to be migrants from syria were found in a abandoned refrigeratored truck on the highway. women and children were among the dead. a summary of leaders who gathered in vienna to discuss the refugee crisis. germany alone is expecting 8,000 refugees. >> mika is involved -- >> unhgr. >> on the refugee issue and has been concerned about it. this is something we expect to hear from migrants being
smuggled from mexico into texas. we certainly don't expect to hear it in austria right outside of vienna. talk about the crisis that's growing in europe. >> it's obviously largely coming out of the middle east. on a scale of world war ii. millions and millions of people, many of whom we would class as refugees because they're driven by political conditions. europe doesn't have the physical or legal capacity in place to deal with it. once you get into the european union, you're in the european union. there's anopeb borders concept. you have an old version of europe coming up against the new realities of the middle east, and europe is being overwhelmed. this is an awful, terrible human tragedy. look at syria alone, what is it, over 10 million, 12 million people made homeless? some are internally displaced. several million have been made refugees in jordan, turkey, and elsewhere. if i'm right and the middle east boils for 10, 20, 30 years, this is not a short-lived thing. this is the new normal.
it's almost like this is the new abnormal, and europe just doesn't have -- >> you're exactly right. this is on the scale of what was happening in europe in 1945, 1946. 1947. i mean, this is actually -- >> and the scale of numbers, the percentage to talk about germany with 800,000. that would mean for us like 10 million. we're talking about a scale that is really inconceivable. this is nothing like our issues with the south. >> and this from the "chicago tribune" dramatic video from the northeastern chinese city shows the moment when a ten-foot sinkhole suddenly opened up on sad, swallowing five people waiting at a bus stop. four people sustained minor injuries in the incident captured by a nearby noodle shop surveillance camera. >> and from the bbc, how a scary moment involving sprinter usain bolt happened yesterday in beijing. he was celebrating the win of the 200-meter sprint in the championships with a victory lap
when a cameraman lost control of the segway he was driving and crashed into the fastest man in the world. the gold medal winner did a backward roll and got back on his feet, continuing with his celebration. but oh, my gosh. how dangerous. >> coming up on "morning joe," the iphone 6s could be around the corner. >> mark halpern will want to know this. he's probably already got it. >> i want to know why mine's broken. thas all break, they crack. is this one deg to not crack? >> also up next -- >> a great journalist called me. and he said, could i ask you one question, mr. trump? what? how does it feel? i said how does what feel? he said this was the summer of trump. do you believe this. how good is that for my ego? >> one word can sum up the last few months, and presidential politics. we'll take a look back at what's truly been so far the summer of trump. because you never know when it will happen
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>> unbelievable. >> cnbc's michelle caruso-cabrera joins the table. >> up, down, up, down. >> incredibly volatile. they're telling me in my ear, and i have to check every minute, that they're down, suggesting we're going to have a negative open. the volatility has been so incredible that you would never know what's happening at 8:30 in
the morning and 4:00 in the afternoon. >> we had a rally yesterday. >> tremendous. >> rally the day before. a couple great days following some bad days. >> we ended up almost flat as a result. >> like the 3.7% growth in the second quarter, china, what was it? >> two pieces of good data that show us that durable goods were better and also the gdp was better, right? >> right. >> china is this big unknown. we don't believe their statistics generally. and so when they tell us that their growth is slowing, we think, wow, their growth must be really slowing. and we've been in a world for 20 years where china is growing. so people are trying to figure out what the implications are. even if the direct relationship between china and the united states when you start, oh, well, only this percentage of gdp, it's not that easy because every single country in the world that produces commodities is suffering dramatically because of china. we have exposure to countries that produce commodities, brazil, russia, et cetera.
it's a big unknown. hence all the volatility. >> so, china's government, though, getting back involved. you said yesterday -- i guess that's the real concern. when china's own government is not willing to rig their own markets because it might cost them too much, that signs a really bad sign. >> two things, right. trying to stimulate the economy, which we have done a lot in this country with stimulus measures, the federal reserve, but china has done that recently, and then they have even tried to support the stock market, thrown money -- the government has thrown money at the stock market, ordering state-owned enterprises, to buy stock. arresting people who are short selling. all these things, a reporter from bujing reported yesterday the authorities say don't worry. we're going to purify the capital markets. that's a loser's game. okay, trying to bolster a falling market is a loser's game. that's why saudi arabia, by the way, isn't cutting production,
because they tried it before. they have taken the knife. they said we're not going to do it anymore. >> i have literally every cent in my name stuffed under my mattress right now. what should i do with that? >> i don't give investing advice. >> why not? i need it. >> look, you have to be able to sleep at night. if you feel better with your money in a mattress, keep your money in the mattress. >> it's hurting. everyone is waiting on janet yellen to make some pronouncement on interest rates. >> september is the big meeting. >> one of the biggest signals we should be looking for and what are the expectation snz. >> nearly every single day, there's some member of the federal reserve talking. two days ago, bill dudley says, you know, with all the market volatility, a rate hike in september looks less compelling. esther george says, you know, i shing we should look for that, and she suggests you never say outright, but she suggests they're going to go in september. betting right now is 50/50. >> at 3.7%, you have a rally. i see you're wearing an apple.
>> i love it. it's great. >> a lot of people don't. it's been a problem for apple. >> you like to workout. >> yes. >> do you wear a polar? you don't measure your heart rate? this measures your heart rate out of that. >> 1and you get what out of tha? >> data. i love data. i like the fitbit for the sleeping. >> apple, though, apple has had trouble with the watch. it hasn't moved as much as possible. >> we don't know. mixed reports. >> i'm using it as a segue. so let me make it up. the apple watch has been an absolute disaster. people on suicide watch out there, but they have the apple iphone 6s coming out. >> a big event. we got the invitation from apple yesterday. there it is. we believe there's going to be some kind of new iphone launch september 9th. you know, apple, we debate apple at cnbcadnauseam because the
watch is so successful. it generates so much money. it's the most profitable phone in all of phones. their margins are huge compared to all these other companies. at the same time, people get more and more nervous, like wow, apple is so dependent. now, 60%, 70% of their revenue comes from this product. are they going to be able to diversify their product line? everyone remembers what happened to the metotorola flip phone. so it's so debated. apple as a stock. >> i miss my razor flip phone. >> i still have one. >> i'm going to go check my heart rate. up next, it's been more than two months since donald trump entered the 2016 race. we'll look at all that's happened and why the gop field hass n't been the same. give you 37-thousand to replace it. "depreciation" they claim.
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(dorothy) toto, i've a feeling we're not in kansas anymore... (morpheus) after this, there is no turning back. (spock) history is replete with turning points. (kevin) wow, this is great. (commentator) where fantasy becomes reality! (penguin 1) where are we going? (penguin 2) the future, boys. the glorious future. (vo) at&t and directv are now one- bringing your television and wireless together- and taking entertainment to places you'd never imagine. (rick) louis, i think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship. let's go to mark. he's got breaking news. and mark, you've been working this all morning. what can you tell us about hillary clinton?
>> one thing the clinton campaign is trying to do that the democratic national committee meeting is to try to show biden, don't get in the race. we're very strong. you can't take the nomination away. you need about 2200 delegates to be nominated. clinton's senior advisers are telling other democrats she has commitments, public and private commitments, for super delegates of over 4400. >> she has over 50%. >> more than half the super delegates are privately and publicly committed to her. more importantly, before anyone has voted, duriaccording to clinton's team, they're telling people she has about one fifth of the delegates she needs. >> which sends a strong message to joe biden and the others. >> and to bernie sanders. she's already got a fifth of the delegates that she needs to be nominated. >> okay, we'll follow that. >> it has been a big summer in presidential politics. >> it really has. some would call it huge, and no
one has loomed larger over the political landscape than donald trump. >> the american dream is dead. but if i get elected president, i will bring it back. bigger and better and stronger than ever before. ♪ jeb bush is a low-energy person. >> this is newt about the big personality in the room. >> for him to get things done is hard. >> we'll never win if we're appealing to people's anger each and every day. >> right down the road, we have jeb. very small crowd. >> we're a conservative party, aren't we? >> very small crowd. >> mr. trump doesn't have a proven conservative record. >> you know what's happening to jeb's crowd as you know right down the street? >> he was a democrat longer in the last decade than he was a republican. >> they're sleeping.
they're sleeping now. >> one of the great honors is everybody that attacks me seems to go down. >> donald trump, you're fired. >> he gave me his number and i found the card. i wrote the number down. i don't know if it's the right number. 202 -- >> clearly, he needs to apologize and refrain from comments like that. >> governor walker, who? >> donald trump's candidacy is a cancer on conservatism. >> rick perry should have to have an iq test before getting on the debate stage. >> my favorite is, you know the reason i tell women is they're ugly is i'm so good looking. >> rand paul called me and asked me to play golf. i easily beat him on the golf course, and i will even more easily beat him now in the world of politics. >> donald trump plays by different rules. >> if he says something really outrageous like attacks a war hero. >> he's a war hero because he was captured. i like people who weren't captured, i hate to tell you. >> the republican party did not know what to do with him. and the chips all fell in his
direction. >> i tell you what would bring him down. what would bring him down would be a story about alleged sexual assault or making fun of a woman over breast feeding. oh, no, wait. boat of those happened. he played by different rules. >> the questions were fair, were tough. i thought the questions to the others were the kind of softballs that bryce harper should wish for every day. >> the fact is she asked me very inappropriate questions. she should really be apologizing to me. >> when mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. they're bringing drugs. they're bringing crime. they're rapists, and some, i assume, are good people. excuse me, sit down. you weren't called. sit down. sit down. sit down. i'm going to win the hispanic vote. >> the rules of the game that apply to everybody else do not seem to apply to donald trump. >> right, he doesn't play by the rules. he doesn't even play the same game. >> these stiffs, thee politicians, they're stiffs.
>> we have an emergence of politics, and donald trump is better at it than anyone we have ever had before. >> i'm using my own money. i'm not using the lobbyists, i'm not using donors. i don't care. i'm really rich. i'll show you that. >> is donald trump a summer fling? >> no, i suspect maybe he's going to be an autumn affair. >> the silent majority is back, and we're going to take the country back. >> my father -- >> your father likes trump? >> is so mad at me for calling him a clown. i called him hideous, and my dad said knock it out, i love him. >> kerry, who is a baby. here's a guy who goes on a bicycle, in a bicycle race. he's 73 years old. he's in a bicycle race. he falls, he breaks his leg during the negotiation. >> yes, it's a spectacle, but the question for us, and i think ultimately for voters is, can he govern? >> great negotiators. they don't sleep at night. like me, we toss and turn and toss and turn.
we're thinking, always thinking. >> you know, it's entertainment. i mean, look. it's all entertainment. you know, i think he's having the time of his life. >> wow, wow, wow. unbelievable. >> it's all about catching lightning in a bottle. >> trump's helicopter flies over the fair. they all looked up in the air, and went, trump. >> one of those little kids that was on that helicopter, it was reported, looked up at him and said are you batman. trump said, i am batman. >> ges, donald trump, finally a candidates whose hair gets more attention than mine. >> if it rains, i'll take off my cap and prove. >> you know it's my hair. >> i do, because i tugged on it once. >> come, come. is it mine? >> it is. >> it is. say it, please. >> yes, i believe it is. >> thank you. >> doubling two well known
popular republican politicians in florida is extraordinary. at this stage in the game, i think we've underestimated trump, for sure. i think he can win caucuses. i think he conceivably could win the nomination. >> i'm not going anywhere, folks. i'm not doing this for my health. i'm doing this to make america great again. >> wow. >> what a summer. can you believe it? >> what a summer, mark halpern, wow, what a summer. >> he's been misunderestimated, and you know, underis trying to come up with a way he's going to fall. i haven't heard anything yet. >> greatest summer, classiest summer, hugest summer. >> it's huge. it's huge. >> summer of being wrong. >> are you looking at me? >> i am. >> were you not entertained by that? that was so entertained. >> i'm entertained. >> will you continue to cover him? >> i think we have said we will not if he's elected president. >> what if he becomes the nominee? >> that's a to be determined policy. >> i find this entertaining.
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ten years ago tomorrow, hurricane katrina hit land, and we know the sheer devastation that followed for the gulf coast. ten years ago, joe was on the scene from the very beginning. here's a look at some of his reporting. >> too many residents were trapped. trapped to endure the worst storm in the history of the united states. unfortunately, officials right now are telling us they have absolutely no idea at all how many people may have died, may have perished in the storm. >> you got people in three-story houses still trying to survive in the houses. >> my dad is trapped in a house. >> such a frightening situation for people who have been through this sort of thing. friends, i think we're in new territory with hurricane katrina and the aftermath. you can go from biloxi to mississippi, to gulf port, to pascagoula. so many of these beautiful antebellum homes up and down the
coastline destroyed. they survived a civil war. they survived the great depression. they survived the onslaught of hurricane camille in 1969. but friends, they were reduced to rubble. if you go to new orleans tonight, 85 miles southwest of us, i'm telling you, a lot of people are talking about how that is the city out of control. >> they don't us go to the superdome. if you want to be rescued, now they're telling us go to the bridge. we have very few resources. >> get us out of here. we want out of here. >> tulane university professor doug brinkley who is one of new orleans residents who evacuated. tell me about the horrific scenes you saw in your hometown of new orleans. >> well, just got back to houston where my family is at, and i have been listening to you. if some people think you're overstating or talking about hiburballh hyperbo
hyperbole, you're not. >> we brought over 1,000 bottles of water and passed it out to anybody who looked like they needed it. reports all through this neighborhood. if you look around, utter, complete deslashz. what are your emotions, what are you thoughts as you look around at your history, your family history and see that it's just reduced? >> you know, i don't know how you handle this. you know, i thought i handled vietnam pretty well. but i don't know -- i can't handle this. i don't know that i'm handling this well at all. it's such an emotionally stressful situation. >> wow. that was something, and it was like as if everyone was really recognizing in real time, including the president -- >> but they didn't. that's the thing. doug brinkley, i was calling doug on the phone because nobody would believe what i was saying on the ground. because i went over the first day. and saw an extraordinary scene, and nobody started talking about it for a couple days. so i was calling doug.
doug had to say what joe is saying is not hyperbole. this is really happening. i got to tell you, we were over there for two, three, four days. babies walking around in three-day-old diapers. hey had no -- our church was getting sun block. i was loading it up in our truck, giving them sun block. we were taking water. it was the most precious commodity. extraordinary, the federal government wasn't there. nobody was blocking us from walking through all these downed power lines. and the red cross, even a week and a half later, they had all the supplies locked up in a white neighborhood, ten miles north of the affected area. and by the way, even the white neighborhood wasn't getting it. it was like in this school, it was the most extraordinary incompetence i have ever seen in my life. and it took a couple days for people to figure it out. >> to figure it out. that's what you saw happening. >> unbelievable. >> up next, what if anything did we learn today.
welcome back to "morning joe." time to talk utwhae we learned today. it's my mom -- it's my sister's birthday tomorrow. happy birthday, carol. and you have a birthday today? >> happy birthday to my mom. >> all right. >> tyler is leaving us. >> oh. >> is the show still going to be on the air? >> i don't know, actually. she walks me in every morning. hedad drives her in every day at what time?
>> what time? >> 2:00 a.m. >> what a dad. >> you commute down from connecticut at 2:00 a.m. and you bring your daughter here? >> we do. a very simple ride. no cars. it's relaxed. it's great. >> 2:00 a.m. >> yeah, the only time you can speed. >> matt tyler is dad of the year. >> yes, i'm very lucky. >> we're lucky to have you here. thank you so much. thank you, todd. and what did you learn? >> the great crime of the century was committed, president obama mistaken jeffersons and sanford and sons coming up soon. >> you asked for it, you got it. what's going on? >> thank you guys for watching. if it's way too early, it's "morning joe." stick around, "the rundown" starts right now. good morning, i'm jose diaz-balart. developing first on "the rundown," all eyes on tropical storm erika. at least 12 people are dead in the caribbean island of